I appreciate you having Imam Tom Facchine one of the best lecturers I've ever known. Actually I'm addicted to his amazing work on TH-cam and I also never skip any interview he's invited to. To me he's a huge reference of Islam in north America. May Allah bless him and increase his knowledge.
@@Thelastofusfan297 well, it's sad if you have eyes to see regardless which system is ruling. And no ! People in Egypt don't get to choose or decide anything.
why u put the president , in relegion in secularism _ your political agenda is just pathetic . it was worst in Mubarak time at least he s not taking people from Fajr prayers - ofc another pathetic muslim brotherhood who are inventing their own religion
@@ME-yp7fn but what about personal freedoms ? Where does that exist in traditional Islamic law? I’m not a molhid I just believe religion can be abused similarly to secular law like you mentioned.
I loooove these lectures on secularism. I learn so much. I feel understanding Islam better, thus increasing our confidence and pride, can be achieved through deconstruction of Secularism and liberalism and in that way returning to the Islamic paradigm of seeing the world.
Yes, alhamdulillah for these very aware knowledgeable people among us. It puts a different perspective on things. But it is also a bit frightening to realize how societies, nations have been manipulated, culturally, politically, ethically over time. The Quran speaks about it, not directly though, when it talks about Iblis and his works.
@@BloggingTheology Paul, maybe you might know about Prof. Fazlur Rehman Malik, he was an astounding Islamic scholar from Pakistan. His book named: 'Major Themes of the Qur'an' is worth exploring. Also, on TH-cam, you can find a lecture from him on the Islamic view of Nature 'Nature With Fazlur Rahman'
Just. WOW. What a discussion! Thank you brother Paul and Imam Tom for sharing this knowledge with us. Every discussion I've heard with Paul and Tom so far has been an absolute education!
I've watched the whole video series you've done with Iman Tom and it has been a wonderful journey. It has really help me to identify the current dogmas of Western society and the systems of power and control currently deployed, I feel I can better grasp Secularism now and will certainly be purchasing and reading the book. Imam Tom briefly mentioned the potential of going through some of the works of Hallaq as the next logical step to this, I and I'm sure others would really love if you invited Imam Tom to the channel again to explore some of Hallaq's work such as The Impossible State, Restating Orientalism and Sharī'a.
This book sounds amazing. I'm trying to find it in Pakistan, but no luck so far. I think the understanding of how national structures have changed is so important and something we need to study more clearly.
Very interesting insights, Imam Tom wonderfully explained how our expectations of Sharia has been morphed. How current form of governance and relation with its subject became so normalized that one might think Sharia has the same approach except for some arabic term here and there.
Mash'Allah! Thank you for these discussions, they're of great benefit Alhamdulillah. And it is nice to see our brothers expressing what goes on in our heads, for it became extreme even in the eyes of the "Muslim".
Mashaa'Allah this is so enlightening on so many levels!! this is my first time hearing Imam Tom Facchine and hopefully it won't be the last inshaa'Allah! Thank you Paul for always introducing us to people with incredible knowledge and wisdom on such a wide spectrum of topics!
By reading about the Ottoman state I realized how much autonomy previous generations had and how much different communities, families and lifestyles were supported. The state was if compared to today's standards very rudimentary. Shaykh Abdulqadir Sufi wrote a great book called Sultaniya which goes in detail into the awqaf and the system. I think it would be very beneficial to look into this subject in some future epizode.
This deserves and requires millions of views. I’m just waking up from my ignorance and feel so bitter about the slumber of my people in Pakistan. No one teaches the young the detailed history of colonialism and how it destroyed our proud reliance on shari’a
@TomFacchine I listened to this video and to your discussion of the impossible state. Its really a fascinating topic. But I can't help but to think, that it's pretty contradictory to say that modernity brought up a atomized morally individualized subject and at the same time a never heard of formative state power. Asad seems to think, the government was stripped of its moral power and Hallaq argues that there never was such a formative power because there was no state to excersie it. How do these positions add up? I would really appreciate a brief enlightening comment...
I heared a very mysterious discussion about pyramid,firaun and moses. A renowned engineer of our country who was atheist before talked about it in an interview. He visited egypt.He told that story of firaun and moses has been mentioned most times in Quran than any other prophets story.There are definitely any reason.Why firaun is so cursed? There are many king who was more cruel than firaun.And he was not only man who claimed himself as God.But why Firaun is special? The speaker said that he has researched a lot about it and got the answer.But he didn’t give the answer. He told audience to think about it.After listening this I am thinking all the time. He gave some clue that it is related to mysterious technology pyramid. I am from Bangladesh.
I greatly enjoyed this talk. As someone in Germany, I can attest to what was said about intergration and frowning. But I do not get what you brother Paul meant at 1:04:30. How does one look Muslim? Is a thawb, a bisht a taqya indication of Muslimness? Hardly so. If you said culturally traditional dresses that would be another thing but I think at this point you know between what is cultural and what religious.
Certain forms of dress are associated with Islamic cultures but it doesn't mean you're not Muslim if you don't wear them. Paul was making the larger point of the inherent restrictions in secular countries that say they are for the freedom of individuals.
Unlike Shariah, whi H is unchangeable, the fiqh / law is not immutable and changes with context & time/place. There are obsolete laws eg on slavery, etc. that have / require change. Daeesh/ISIL used their own way to use law for their own purposes in areas they invaded.
Theocratic, your use of word, is better that autocratic, militaristic & fascist rule. Islam is dynamic & uses reason & Shariah law. Pity that the geopolitics, imperialism / colonialism disrupted even Africa.
I appreciate you having Imam Tom Facchine one of the best lecturers I've ever known. Actually I'm addicted to his amazing work on TH-cam and I also never skip any interview he's invited to. To me he's a huge reference of Islam in north America. May Allah bless him and increase his knowledge.
Same
Assalamualaikum, please give your number,Iam from India
The future is bright for this highly knowledgeable, articulate young Imam Insha'Allah. Love this ongoing collaboration Paul.
yeah
Insha'Allah
Thank you soo much for your contribution to Islam!
Love from Pakistan!
I'm from Egypt and it's sad how secular it's gotten under the military rule(currently sisi)
I’m from Egypt too and I don’t think it’s sad. Why is it sad for people to decide how to live their lives?
@@Thelastofusfan297 well, it's sad if you have eyes to see regardless which system is ruling. And no ! People in Egypt don't get to choose or decide anything.
@@Thelastofusfan297 I live in Egypt. Life under sisis dictatorship is HELL.
why u put the president , in relegion in secularism _ your political agenda is just pathetic . it was worst in Mubarak time at least he s not taking people from Fajr prayers - ofc another pathetic muslim brotherhood who are inventing their own religion
@@ME-yp7fn but what about personal freedoms ? Where does that exist in traditional Islamic law? I’m not a molhid I just believe religion can be abused similarly to secular law like you mentioned.
I love these two people dearly. Imam Tom overflows with gems masha' allah.
Thank you Paul for this one.
I loooove these lectures on secularism. I learn so much. I feel understanding Islam better, thus increasing our confidence and pride, can be achieved through deconstruction of Secularism and liberalism and in that way returning to the Islamic paradigm of seeing the world.
Yes, alhamdulillah for these very aware knowledgeable people among us. It puts a different perspective on things. But it is also a bit frightening to realize how societies, nations have been manipulated, culturally, politically, ethically over time. The Quran speaks about it, not directly though, when it talks about Iblis and his works.
Imam Facchine is the rising star of the North American Muslim community. May our Lord bless him!
I agree 👍
I agree!
I agree
@@BloggingTheology Paul, maybe you might know about Prof. Fazlur Rehman Malik, he was an astounding Islamic scholar from Pakistan. His book named:
'Major Themes of the Qur'an'
is worth exploring. Also, on TH-cam, you can find a lecture from him on the Islamic view of Nature
'Nature With Fazlur Rahman'
Dear brother Paul and imam Tom Allah bless you both are doing great work on this planet and we love you
Just. WOW. What a discussion! Thank you brother Paul and Imam Tom for sharing this knowledge with us. Every discussion I've heard with Paul and Tom so far has been an absolute education!
Glad you enjoyed it
Two amazing personalities having discussions on vital topics that's so much informative and vital to listen and learn
Always learn something new from Imam Tom on the practice & theory of secularism. May Allah preserve you both 🤲🏾
Mash’Allah. I love these discussions. You never fail to fascinate me.
Paul and Imam Tom. May Allah bless you all. ❤
Non stop high quality content from sheikh Paul.
Very good points made during this discussion, as always. May Allah reward you both.
I've watched the whole video series you've done with Iman Tom and it has been a wonderful journey. It has really help me to identify the current dogmas of Western society and the systems of power and control currently deployed, I feel I can better grasp Secularism now and will certainly be purchasing and reading the book.
Imam Tom briefly mentioned the potential of going through some of the works of Hallaq as the next logical step to this, I and I'm sure others would really love if you invited Imam Tom to the channel again to explore some of Hallaq's work such as The Impossible State, Restating Orientalism and Sharī'a.
We're most thankful Sir!
This book sounds amazing. I'm trying to find it in Pakistan, but no luck so far. I think the understanding of how national structures have changed is so important and something we need to study more clearly.
Salam aleikum from Dagestan ❤
Well how's your training going on? Did you fight bear today?
Just kidding bro, wa'alakumusalam.
wa alaikum salaam from Syria
@@copeharder1379 I don’t wrestle them I coach them, haha:) where are you from bro ?
@@justworship0570 haha good one 👍🏻
Btw I'm from India :)
Everything's good in Dagestan? I am hearing about forced conscription.
Thank you both
جزاكم الله خير الجزاء
This amaizing, thank you both so much !
Excellent ! I cannot help but share this.
Nice camera set up Imaam Tom. Maa shaa Allah
Mash'Allah very well thought out talk, thank you both!
Thank you for your program giving me a wide knowledge about secularisme
Very instructive! May Allah grant you both Jannah.
This is spot on re diagnosis of our root causes. Jzk
These talks are 24 Karat gold!
Very interesting insights, Imam Tom wonderfully explained how our expectations of Sharia has been morphed. How current form of governance and relation with its subject became so normalized that one might think Sharia has the same approach except for some arabic term here and there.
I love Imam Tom Facchine
Please Mr Paul keep inviting imam Tom, he's an absolute blast to listen to
Excellent as usual and nice continuation of breakdowns of the interesting books. Love listening to Br. Tom.
MashaAllah.
Very informative and enjoyable discussion. Thank you Mr. Paul, thank you Imam Tom.
Imam Tom must have studied, in depth, the Shari’a Legal system across Northern Nigeria. His descriptions are a reflection of the reality here!
Mash'Allah! Thank you for these discussions, they're of great benefit Alhamdulillah. And it is nice to see our brothers expressing what goes on in our heads, for it became extreme even in the eyes of the "Muslim".
Thanks!
Many thanks!
@@BloggingTheology keep up the good work. Allah bless you Paul
This discussion was long overdue.
Mashaa'Allah this is so enlightening on so many levels!! this is my first time hearing Imam Tom Facchine and hopefully it won't be the last inshaa'Allah! Thank you Paul for always introducing us to people with incredible knowledge and wisdom on such a wide spectrum of topics!
Glad you enjoyed it
By reading about the Ottoman state I realized how much autonomy previous generations had and how much different communities, families and lifestyles were supported. The state was if compared to today's standards very rudimentary.
Shaykh Abdulqadir Sufi wrote a great book called Sultaniya which goes in detail into the awqaf and the system. I think it would be very beneficial to look into this subject in some future epizode.
Here .....🕋
Some people you can listen to what ever they talk about for hours.
Excellento
This deserves and requires millions of views. I’m just waking up from my ignorance and feel so bitter about the slumber of my people in Pakistan. No one teaches the young the detailed history of colonialism and how it destroyed our proud reliance on shari’a
He is something man.
Brother Paul, you did not let me down.
Imam Tom strikes again.
Alhamdulillah
من يتطوع بترجمة فيديوهات السيد بول إلى العربية وأجره على الله
God bless
Al-Azhar Al-Sharif
Paul can you please make a video about surah 86 verse 5-7.
@TomFacchine I listened to this video and to your discussion of the impossible state. Its really a fascinating topic. But I can't help but to think, that it's pretty contradictory to say that modernity brought up a atomized morally individualized subject and at the same time a never heard of formative state power. Asad seems to think, the government was stripped of its moral power and Hallaq argues that there never was such a formative power because there was no state to excersie it. How do these positions add up? I would really appreciate a brief enlightening comment...
Paul, Invite Professor Wael B Hallaq for an episode
I heared a very mysterious discussion about pyramid,firaun and moses. A renowned engineer of our country who was atheist before talked about it in an interview. He visited egypt.He told that story of firaun and moses has been mentioned most times in Quran than any other prophets story.There are definitely any reason.Why firaun is so cursed? There are many king who was more cruel than firaun.And he was not only man who claimed himself as God.But why Firaun is special? The speaker said that he has researched a lot about it and got the answer.But he didn’t give the answer. He told audience to think about it.After listening this I am thinking all the time. He gave some clue that it is related to mysterious technology pyramid. I am from Bangladesh.
Recommend the Middle Nation.
Salaam
Imam tom mentioned Wael Hallaq and quoted from his books a lot
Can you recommend me a few books of his to start with?
Are they impartial?
Mallam Paul was too tired for this one...jazakAllahu khayran nonetheless for this needful video
Can someone tell me ahead of time if my heart is going to be able to handle this?? Is this horrible news?
It is a good lecture
Almani= علماني
For confused arabic speakers
I greatly enjoyed this talk. As someone in Germany, I can attest to what was said about intergration and frowning. But I do not get what you brother Paul meant at 1:04:30. How does one look Muslim? Is a thawb, a bisht a taqya indication of Muslimness? Hardly so. If you said culturally traditional dresses that would be another thing but I think at this point you know between what is cultural and what religious.
Certain forms of dress are associated with Islamic cultures but it doesn't mean you're not Muslim if you don't wear them. Paul was making the larger point of the inherent restrictions in secular countries that say they are for the freedom of individuals.
Unlike Shariah, whi H is unchangeable, the fiqh / law is not immutable and changes with context & time/place. There are obsolete laws eg on slavery, etc. that have / require change. Daeesh/ISIL used their own way to use law for their own purposes in areas they invaded.
Theocratic, your use of word, is better that autocratic, militaristic & fascist rule. Islam is dynamic & uses reason & Shariah law. Pity that the geopolitics, imperialism / colonialism disrupted even Africa.
th-cam.com/video/4RsC9bW16DI/w-d-xo.html
If toms name was jordan Peterson this video would have a 1m views
almany ≈ الماني ≈ German
3almany ≈ علماني ≈ secular
Mr Paul you said you live in the Occitanie region in France?, it happens that I also live there, Toulouse specifically :)