Avi Shlaim on Arab-Jews, Zionism and Israel
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- In this Islam Channel Podcast episode, host Mas Patel speaks to prominent Israeli-British historian Professor Avi Shlaim.
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The real face of humanity. Thanks God, there people like Professor Avi Shlaim, who teaches us the true history of Arabs/ Israelis political differences and fights.
Thankfully we are able to document these conversations.... absolutely honored to listen to him
althoung he is jewish but got assimilated, identifed himself as arab, his first language was arabic, at his home they spoke arabic and made up arabic food as they were living in iraq
Another extremely sensitive interview by Mas Patel, thank you! and thanks to this extraordinary human being, Prof Avi, for sharing his story and showing us a totally different truth from the one we have received from mainstream sources! With deep respect and gratitude to both of you!!!!
What a pleasure to listen to two gentlemen. Thank you.
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I absolutely love this guy. He is so rational and calm.
Avi is a clinical psychopath, just like Mohamed
But very naive
@@davidatrakchi2707 and absolutely psychopathic too
He is teaching you how not to be naive @@davidatrakchi2707
In most Muslim countries you get the death penalty for being an apostate or insulting Muhammad
Or being openly gay
The Islamic world is not tolerant
Avı Shalom is a value that is vanishing in this world. He has first hsnd experinces as a historian. Respect and ❤.
A gentleman and a genuinely lovely man
Did you listen to what he said?
A brilliant interview with a Very Brilliant and pure human being!
May Almighty God continue to bless both you & your Family.
Most Sincerely Michael Foley.
Most of the problems in the Middle East are caused by almighty god, everyone claims to own him and the absolute truth
Prof. Shlaim is such a compassionate human being and a great historian. His words are powerful because of the truth they convey
I can hear the pain in the voice of Dr. Avi. The pain of belonging to 2 cultures that may seem currently antagonistic.
I have a lot of respect for this great man
Love listening to this wonderful man.
Thank heavens for Avi Shlaim.
What a beautiful human being… so honoured to hear his truth, and how this horrific situation has been created.. the world is a better place because of people Prof Avi 🙏🙏🙏
Lovely to listen to an honest Iraqi Jew with humanitarian character and overview. My respect and sympathy Sir.
So educational. I feel privileged to be able to watch & listen to him.
Thank you for this interview and for the wisdom and historical insights shared by Professor Avi. I’m a catholic living in Asia who had visited West Bank, Israel and Egypt. The experience gained from this trip is a driving force in my support for Palestinian Independence and for the ending of the apartheid ( which has escalated in Gaza into a g3nocide). The recent news coming from Gaza and West Bank of continued violence against civilians is breaking my heart. 🕊️🇵🇸
Through his personal story he is conveying such an important part of history. As is often (most of the time?) the case, powerful money interests used a cloak to gain a foothold in a part of the world they want to exploit. The guise in this case was judaism. They play chess via the lies they spread. Thank you for the opportunity to listen to this wonderful guest! The truth will set us free.
I’ve read this fascinating book and really admire the honesty and courage of Prof Shlaim.
Thank you for this time well spent with Professor Avi. I feel privileged any time I can sit and listen to him. I learn so much in doing so. I'd love ❤️ 😍 to give him a hug 🫂 🤗 for being such a great humanitarian and for not becoming bitter for all he and family endured in that ruthless uprooting. He's truly special 💗
This is what we need. People talking about their perspectives to each other. As much listening as talking.
49:33 How absolutely important it has been for me to listen to Professor Shlaim. His personal life story is a lesson of history in itself!! I will surely buy his book. Et en plus, his voice and demeanor are so gentle. Thank you for bringing him on your Podcast.
What a wonderful man… we need elders like this- honest compassionate and human. Why are we ruled over by psychopaths? 😢
1:02:30 Money? Collective lunacy? Manipulation of the masses? We could go on, and on...
You can take the man out of the Arab but you can't take the Arab out of the man.
We’ve all been colonised
This wonderful man is looked up to as a beacon of humanity. Having grown up in SA during the worst years of Apartheid and Zionist indoctrination I am thankful that my elderly pain has a voice …… merci Professor Shlaim.
@@jennyhirschowitz1999 No, he is just another person dealing with their particular trauma. Stop Idol worship.
My love and Respect for Prof Avi Shlaim is way up there. I just admire him
What a wonderful human being! There truly would be peace in the world if we could all have leaders like him.
Thank you for your knowledgeable and calm explanation Avi Shlaim. What an amazing man.
Mas Patel is an impressive interviewer. He listens. Calm and completely engaged.
Yes. A rarity, really.
I love this guy. He’s so genuine ❤
I absolutely love this lovely grandpa. Thank you❤
Takes a big heart ❤️ may Allah be kind to all.
Thank you Mr. Shlaim. If only your message is listened to, and accepted., we could have peace and security for all. Got bless you and keep you in good health.
What an amazing gentleman
Yes, but did you listen to what he said?
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@@paulheydarian1281Another troll paid by Israel.
Thank you for the treasure in this astonishing interview. Opens up the history in new lights 🙏🏽
What a wonderful conversation . Thank you
Dr. Norm , it’s nice to see the sunlight coming through your office - you are shinning brighter than ever ! ❤
What a wonderful interview! Thanks Dr. Avi Shlaim: through your biography we've learned History, too.
Avi has a wonderful quote. "The Arabs had the best case for the land, but the weaker advocates. The Zionists had the weaker case for the land, but the stronger advocates "
I think that status quo has changed in recent times.
He is telling the truth!!! surprisingly !!! excellent !! unbelievable !!!!
Thanks for this heartfelt and sincere conversation. Growing up in America, I have often wondered about the historical roots of the Arab and Jewish peoples in the Middle East. Knowing that they lived in peaceful coexistence prior to 1948 is a valuable lesson. I feel that this understanding is key, especially given the current Israeli Genocide in Palestine today. Again, much thanks to your guest for articulating his experiences as an Arab Jew.
Since European converts to Judaism, moved to the part of Palestinian territory, purchased by the Rothschild family from Britain in 1930-es. The genocide started in 1948, with the colonizing empires gladly financing blood shed in order to profit financially!
Christianity, Judaism and Islam is an Arabics/middleast religions origin.
Yes indeed and it PROVES that we can go back to this way of acceptance and respect. As long as we all live according to a moral universal code (which we ALL know) and respect each other - we can have different beliefs about things and still live in harmony. We HAVE to strive for that.
It's lies, search Safed massacre 1834 and see the truth
An got rid of the psychopath idiots like Netaniahou the CORRUPT POLITICIAN, WHO KILLS PALESTINIANS BECAUSE HE KNOWS THAT THE DAY THE WAR WILL BE OVER, HE WILL BE JUDGED AND SENT TO PRISON FOR LIFE, ON TOP OF THE GENOCIDE.
Thank u doctor Avi , I’m always honored listening to your valuable conversations, I’m Palestinian and wish one day we will have rulers in the Arab world and Palestine Israel who are honest and humans like you are great man
Excellent..History is so important education must teach our true history.
I am awestruck by Prof Avis gentleness, humility, compassion, wisdom and humanity - a truly great soul. Deep respect
Its really surprising that the far-right-fascist -extremists Itamar Ben-Gvir is also of Iraqi Jewish descent. The Iraqi Jewish history is so rich & so vital to the Jewish collective identity. Iraqi Jewish are not just another portion of the Jewish diaspora for Millenia rather they were a core contributors of the Jewish Rabbinic tradition in almost all aspects of Judaism. I was happy this channel invited Prof. Avi Shlaim & for him to share the unique & often forgotten & ignored aspects of the Mizrachi & Sephardic Jews life in the Arab world
In the middle of the 19th century, J. J. Benjamin wrote of Persian Jews:
"…they are obliged to live in a separate part of town…; for they are considered as unclean creatures… Under the pretext of their being unclean, they are treated with the greatest severity and should they enter a street, inhabited by Mussulmans, they are pelted by the boys and mobs with stones and dirt… For the same reason, they are prohibited to go out when it rains; for it is said the rain would wash dirt off them, which would sully the feet of the Mussulmans… If a Jew is recognized as such in the streets, he is subjected to the greatest insults. The passers-by spit in his face, and sometimes beat him… unmercifully… If a Jew enters a shop for anything, he is forbidden to inspect the goods… Should his hand incautiously touch the goods, he must take them at any price the seller chooses to ask for them... Sometimes the Persians intrude into the dwellings of the Jews and take possession of whatever please them. Should the owner make the least opposition in defense of his property, he incurs the danger of atoning for it with his life... If... a Jew shows himself in the street during the three days of the Katel (Muharram)…, he is sure to be murdered."[27]
Sounds like badly spoken propaganda.
@@DrinkingyoursaltytearsallahIraq is not Persia
Read some history.
The arab Nazis in Iraq attacked attacked and murdered jews.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farhud
@@Drinkingyoursaltytearsallahthat’s Persian Jews, not Iraqi Jews, what is the relevance?
It incredibly a good interview by a honest gentleman.👏👏👏👍
The power of the Iraqi blood,,,,, prof Avi is the living example of honesty and integrity.
Thank you to your program and to Avi Shlaim
Quite an amazing interview, with an extraordinary
and incredibly knowledgeable guest, Professor
Avi Shlaim! The dramatic contrast of his family’s
life in Iraq, compared with the extremely
challenging conditions they experienced in
Israel, after their forced relocation, was
quite shocking and a most compelling
narrative. The fact that he served in the
Israeli military, gave his story further
credibility. It is most unfortunate that
the IDF became a brutal police force
of occupation, in the lands Israel
captured during the six day war. This
change, persuaded Avi to alter his
views about Israel, the IDF and
Zionism in general, and understandably
so! We have all benefitted from the
knowledge, wisdom and astute insights
that Professor Shlaim , shared with us
in this exceptional interview. I am sure
that the depth of understanding we all
have about Israel and Palestine , is
significantly improved , after listening
to his responses to your thought
provoking questions in this
interview. Professor Avi Shlaim is
a wealth of information about the
Middle East, and has insights and
perspectives about the region that
few others possess. Thank you
for inviting him on as a guest to
your wonderful podcast.
A prelude to " truth and reconciliation". A world of hard hearts.
I had a boyfriend whose dad was born in the 30s in Egypt. His parents were Jewish "gypsies" (according to himself) from North-Africa and the Iberian peninsula. He revelled at this mixedness. He himself grew up speaking Arabic and a bunch of other languages here and there because Egypt was so lively and cosmopolitan at the time. He said one day, someone canme and asked what nationality the family was, and they said French, just randomly. Their neighbours said Italian, other English. But they didn't at all identify as that. I think they gave them passports then, because they had just been living their life without such ideas as nationalities before. When he was 18, Nasser came into power and Jews left, so he went to France although he had no connection at all to Judaism. When I visited them at home, Samy and I sat chatting and my eye fell on a shelf onto a slender book in Arabic. The spine was crumpled so you could tell he had been reading it a lot. It was a bit of a shock because it was such a beautiful reminder that he was, in fact, Middle Eastener (as am I). His life story really taught me about the artificial nature of borders and about how mixing is always better and more humane. Thank you for this conversation!
A great great scholar. The World needs more of.
“Iraq didn’t have a Jewish problem, Europe has a Jewish problem.” 11:20
Read some history.
The arab Nazis in Iraq attacked attacked and murdered jews.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farhud
Why were the Jews expelled from England in 1290? know the history
They did, since June 1941 in the event known as Farhood when Muslims attacked their Jewish neighbors killing, burning , raping and doing all the things islamists are raised upon.
Jews had the brains to leave that coursed country, they flourished in Israel and since than Iraq is coursed....without any hope
Yes, there wasn't a Jewish problem anywhere in the near east and north Africa. Even in Palestine Jewish population self identify that way. It's Z1onism and the Ashkanazi Jews that were and are the problem. Prof. Avi is not the first Arab Jew to bring this up. 1Sreal was manufactured just like modern Herbrew and it's history.
@@Noncon4formist Most of the jews in Israel are from arab countries, where they were ethnically cleansed. The arabs and their racism is the problem.
Fantastic interview 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
This Professor is a masterclass and in a league of his own.
Agree wholeheartedly. My second time listening to him. Prof Shlaim is a treasure.
*Avi Shlaim has persuaded me to quit believing in a two-state solution and an acceptance of a one-state solution with equal rights for all.*
Like in Iraq today .. no Jews there now in 141 bagdad was 40% jewish
@@charlescaplan6168 That is going back a while. 141BCE or 141 CE?
My mistake 1941
@@charlescaplan6168 I am unsure of your point.
@@Jean-rg4sp the Palestinian position is ror ie control of Israeli immigration to get a Palestinian majority. In Israel over and above any land concessions BUT in all Islamic majority countries bathe Jewish population either all left or was drastically reduced
Absolutely cracking podcast...I learned so much. Thanks you both Gentlemen!
My respect to both the professor and the interviewer for the very balanced conversation, very constructive, very enlightening.
“I should much rather see a reasonable agreement with the Arabs based on living together in peace than the creation of a Jewish State.” Albert Einstein.
Excerpt from Letter from Einstein to Jawaharal Nehru
13-Jun-1947
"Long before the emergence of Hitler, I made the cause of Zionism mine because through it I saw a means of correcting a flagrant wrong. I refer to the peculiar disability suffered by the Jewish people by which they were deprived of the opportunity to live on the same basis as other peoples. The bigotry of the chauvinists and racists, whose doctrines have brought so much evil to mankind, has always been alien to me. Were the vision of an international society, a true parliament of man, ever to be realized, I venture to say I should be among its most sympathetic supporters. But even in the interests of this ultimate ideal, the preliminary steps are surely the removal of the stigma of inferiority from every group and people in the world. The Jewish people alone has for centuries been in the anomalous position of being victimized and hounded as as people, though bereft of all the rights and protections which even the smallest people normally has. Jews have been persecuted as individuals; the Jewish people has been unable to develop fruitfully as a cultural and ethnic group. The spirit of the people as well as the bodies of its members have been assailed. Zionism offered the means of ending this discrimination. Through the return to the land to which they were bound by close historic ties, and, since the dispersion, hallowed in their daily prayers, Jews sought to abolish their pariah status among peoples.
The Advent of Hitler underscored with a savage logic all the disastrous implications contained in the abnormal situation in which Jews found themselves. Millions of Jews perished not only because they were caught in the Nazi murder machine but also because there was no spot on the globe where they could find sanctuary. I need not remind you what the Nazi extermination program cost my people, nor of the tragic plight of the survivors. India, I am sure, mourned not only for six million men, women and children killed in gas-chambers and crematoriums, but also for a civilization which permitted this horror to take place. And I believe that wherever men dream of justice and struggle for its presence, the cry of those who escaped from the Nazi charnel-house must be heard.
The Jewish survivors demand the right to dwell amid brothers, on the soil of their fathers. Their need is so desperate, their longing so natural that it is superfluous to elaborate the point. There is, however, a legitimate and relevant question which must be answered. Can Jewish need, no matter how acute, be met without the infringement of the vital rights of others? My answer is in the affirmative. One of the most extraordinary features of the Jewish rebuilding of Palestine is that the influx of Jewish pioneers has resulted not in the displacement and impoverishment of the local Arab population, but in its phenomenal increase and greater prosperity."
PM of the Indian Govt, New Delhi, India
But it is impossible, right?
@@KJ-yiseshow is it impossible? Maybe now. But from a historic point of view probably all the jews of europe could have moved to the middle east. Without the creation of a state that moved people of ther land. The middle east wasnt like europe or England at that time. It wasnt classy to be a person seeking to own big landscape just for yourself. And people who didnt bother others didnt get bothered.
@@alawi854 persecution of Jews in the Middle East too. Since they are persecuted everywhere despite their brilliance, it’s much better they have their own state where they feel safe. Arabs can’t even live in peace with each other in their own state, let alone living with others. Israel has 2 million Arabs which is proof that it can work this way but not the other way round.
It was an insightful talk, thank you both
Thank you so much
It’s always a learning experience to hear Dr. Shlaim speak, each time I get new information and I learn more of the history Israel made sure I was deprived of. It’s clear that resistance alone is not enough, as Rashid Khalidi always points out, we must do various things such as BDS, speak out, call out have different programs even that involve the arts, but especially educate people as an entire world has been duped into thinking by the western empire -once again- that one group is the other.
What a wonderful episode. You posed and answered many questions I had and opened new avenues of enquiry. I will be reading Professor Shlaim books. Thank you so much.
Amazing content sir. 🙏
Great & honest podcast! Telling some truths!
Mr. Patel, please bring on to your show, Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro. The man who knows more about the difference between Zionism and Judaism than any.
His book, " how Zionism hijacked Judaism " is a must read.
Thank u Avi Shlaim and thank u Mas Patel. Im in tears of hope and love to see u 2 talk so lovingly together. Jews and Muslims the closest siblings of the abrahamitic religions. And i will never forgive zionism to put this rip in that relationship. Lets end colonialism and racism and build a future of peaceful coexistance. Love from Sweden
Very inspiring and insightful.
The West has consciously chosen to ignore, obscure, hide and lie about the close relationship that existed between Jews, Christians and Muslims in predominantly Muslim lands. In the Qur’an, Jews and Christians are repeatedly referred to as “People of The Book”, meaning people to whom divine scripture has been revealed. All of the prophets spoken of in the Old and New Testaments are spoken of with great respect and honor in the Qur’an. Sad, that these relations and relationships have been torn asunder because of racism, nationalism and Zionism.
WIKI has an entire page of Muslims massacring Jews for centuries, conveniently ignored...
What a lovely human Avi is, a wonderful example of Jewish intelligence and acceptance of his culture and of others, shame zionists generally don't have the same mindset
What exactly is Jewish intelligence?🤔
Is there Christian intelligence?
Is there Hindoo or Muslim intelligence?🤔
This is a good information to understand what has been happening with Palestinians and Israel and the present situation. Thanks for the video an interview of the great Speaker/Professor
This interview has taught me so much and changed my world view. Thank you so kindly for this widened perspective. I pray for Peace
I could listen to Avi for hours, he has such a calm and soothing voice. If anyone is knowledgeable on the subject of Israel and Palestine it’s brilliant academics like Avi Shlaim and Norman Finkelstein.
Bless Avi Shlaim. Always sooths me when listening to his experiences in these trying times.
Much of what Professor Shlaim said echoes my mom's experience growing up as a Sephardi Jew in Turkey.
I love this man! 😂
Thank you for this interview. Professor Shlaim is all wisdom and goodwill, and the interviewer knows how to listen, when to talk and how to respect .
MashaAllah, such a nice soul!
Prof Avi's point about the difference in self-identity of the Arab Sephardic Jews and the European Ashkenazi Jews and how the former was subsumed upon living in Israel, is so very important. Thank you, Prof, for that enlightening nugget.
Honest man
Thank you for this podcast. I had heard Avi speak earlier on a different podcast and I enjoyed hearing him again express his views and explain his history. I have thought a lot about this and I think actually there are two solutions which I've actually commented on in other people's podcasts.
I'll present their first one which may seem more within the realm of this world 😊which is to simply have one nation. IT will be called either Canaan and the people will be Canaanites or called the Levant and the people will be called Levantines. Within that Nation, will be Christians Jews and Muslims and other people, such as the Druze who live there now. This country will be modeled on Andalusia which existed for hundreds and hundreds of years in the south of Spain. IT might even be called the New Andalusia. IT will be a Renaissance of peoples--melding and merging their ideas and creating new ways of thinking in all the disciplines that exist. The people of the Jewish persuasion will finally find peace and they will also find brotherhood among the peoples living on this land. As Edward Said proposed-- all the land that is controlled by the government of Israel will be returned to the Palestinians but the land that is privately owned by Israelis will remain in the hands of the Israelis. The money to build this Nirvana, this new Andalusia, will come from the zionist state and all the money coming from the US will henceforth be funneled into the rebuilding of a country-- with NOTHING going to the army; NOTHING going to weapons and EVERYTHING going to peace and cultural endeavors, including business endeavors for the new inhabitants.We can have situations where talking heads get together from all the disciplines and they can really map out an absolutely marvelous Nation that all will envy.
IF the zionists will NOT accept this plan, there is a second possibility: Right now in the seas off the coast of China, the Chinese have been building islands for some time and then they claim it as their territory and the water surrounding it as their territory. The zionists will need to find Waters that are not claimed by other nations but upon which they can build their own Island for only Jews, no other religion will be allowed, and they must train themselves to do the manual jobs currently done by PALESTINIANS & East Indians, etc. Historic Palestine will then be, as a matter of course, be returned to its natural state which was majority Muslim with some Christians usually of Arab extraction and with a few Jews also usually of Arab extraction. Zionists of a certain persuasion might truly enjoy this. The island itself will enjoy the protection of the seas which enabled England to rise to being a huge empire & also allowed Japan to become a powerful Nation even though it was sitting, across the waters from a huge Nation. Good luck 🤞
Such a kind, gentle, and learned man with an important perspective on the situation. He condemned Israel’s brutality but I wish he had said something about Palestinian violence. I suppose he thinks it’s justified. The one state solution is a distant dream at this point.
Protect Prof Avi Shlaim at all costs. The voice of sanity.
كل الشكر والتقدير لكم بروفسور Shlaim أنّت فخرا للعرب انت اشرف من جميع هؤلاء للمتخاذلين كل الاحترام لشخصكم دمت ذخرا للإنسانية🌺🌸🌼
Palestinians have the right to resist occupation and the right to defend themselves from the occupiers
He is such a gentle person. Always like to hear what he has to say.
Fascinating story. Thank you for sharing
This was a wonderful interview. I can't wait to read the book.
I've listened again from beginning to end. One of the most powerful, insightful and practical interviews around ❤
Thank you for sharing this beautiful person with the world.
Thanks!
Avis wife is the daughter of loyld george both r palestian activists ❤. I luv his quiet voice.
I have and read this book written by Avi Shlaim, very interesting😊
Alhamdulillah, this proves that there is no justification for the settler regime on any grounds whatsoever. As a descendant of Sephardic Jews and Muslims, I am a firm supporter of one state, Falastin, and there is no reason at all that Jews cannot live with an Arab majority other than the hideous obstruction that is Zionism and settlers' own internalized white supremacy. Al Aqsa must be respected and protected, there should be no construction of the fabled Temple of Solomon, and there cannot and should not be a Jewish state. The Nazi threat of the Holocaust has passed, at least for Ashkenazis; even though a number of them are participating in genocide currently, they are not being hunted down and murdered like Palestinians or Arabs more broadly since 9/11, if not longer
That will be done when a church and synagogue and temple stand in Mecca and Medina.
Islam allows for itself but is intolerant of others, and Judaism Christianity and Buddhism are far older than it !
Try to think of a group of Arabs for two thousand years in, say, Brazil. They might still be Muslim but they would have Native American DNA. Just like Sunni Shia are both Muslim, so we are all Jewish... Ashkenazi, Sephardi and Mizrahi.
Why deny Jews a state of our own ?
Do you see Muslims dividing their capital cities ?
You play the racist game - for shame ! Indonesians are Muslim but not Arab ...so your argument falls flat !
Jews, like Arabs, come in all colours !
Even Zuheir Mohsen of the PLO stated:
"The Palestinian people does not exist … there is no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians, and Lebanese", though Palestinian identity would be emphasised for political reasons. In a March 1977 interview with the Dutch newspaper Trouw he stated that "between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese there are no differences. We are all part of one people, the Arab nation [...] Just for political reasons we carefully underwrite our Palestinian identity. Because it is of national interest for the Arabs to advocate the existence of Palestinians to balance Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons"...
So ultimately, it's a religious issue :
It rankles the Arab world that a successful Jewish state exists in their midst.
Well said!
"the fabled Temple of Solomon" that's the problem right there...denying Jewish connection
Love and respect for Avi Shlaim❤❤❤❤❤
What a lovely professor. Thank you to keep the truth about history.
...Prof.Dr.Nasir Fazal gold medalist Cambridge USA
What the learned Prof said at 16:48 about anti-Semitism having originated in (a) Europe and not the Middle East and (b) from the Christian community, not from Muslims or Arabs. Bless you, Professor. How so many could benefit from this crucial remembrance.
It's simple, I see Avi Schlaim, I click. 😊
Yes, make sure his precious words are saved and protected... never
lost. We will not forever be fortunate enough to hear these truths first hand. Thank you. What a privilege to hear from this wise elder.
Very interesting interview
Wonderful hour long interview with Avi Schlaim
Great show Islam Channel, good for you and Avi Shlaim is accurate on all points. Listen carefully people. This crap did not start on Oct 7th.
Bless this
Man!🙏❤️
that was very refreshing and uplifting