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Had the Judit Polgar phenomenon appeared in world chess around 2010, we would now be talking about the first woman to go above 2800... Even in her time she was well above 2700 and - had she had the same tournament participation as the top male players of her era - she had the potential to get much closer to that 2800 barrier than she ultimately did! Daniel please bring us more of the good stuff :)
She would have been a little bit closer, but 2800 would still have been to much. And not even close. 2800 has allways been top 5( and only with really strong top 5's, otherwhise top2-3). I think at best she would have reached 2750/2760. Still amazing feat, but I think just saying that she was in/around top10 for 3 years says enough of how strong she was
Wow what a game!!!! Defeating Kasparov in that era wasn't so easy as we know that in 2000 he defended his world championship title and that shows that he was in a good form if not at his best. Judit showed great character in that era. Thank You Daniel for sharing such amazing games with your amazing explanations
Thanks again Daniel King for your commentary. It really helps me enjoy these wonderful chess games. And in this series, appreciate the strengths of Judit Polgar as a chess player. It explains why she's such a good live rapid chess commentator.
Actually, Bobby Fischer was the "real-life Beth Harmon" according to this article .... McClain of The New York Times notes that Beth's journey greatly resembles the real-life story of world-renowned chess champion Bobby Fischer in many ways. Beth wins the 1967 U.S. championship in the show, which was the year Bobby won his final American title. Bobby first became a chess champion at the age of 14 - Beth does the same at 16 in the show. Likewise, Bobby taught himself Russian to better prepare for competitions, which is something we see Beth do, as well. In the Netflix show, Beth's hard work pays off as she beats Vasily Borgov in Moscow. Bobby also saw his efforts result in a huge win against Russia’s Boris Spassky. Personality wise, there are also similarities. Before his death in January of 2008, Bobby was reportedly known to be "socially awkward, provocative, argumentative, and unhappy," as well as someone who lacked "conventional social skills." In The Queen's Gambit, we see Beth struggle to fit in and become increasingly isolated as she continues to hone her skills and dominate the game. McClain's theory is that Walter, who was an amateur chess player himself, took elements of Bobby and transformed him into a female protagonist in The Queen's Gambit to make a statement about equality in the game. Bobby reportedly referred to female chess players as "not so smart" and failed to acknowledge their talents throughout his reign. Perhaps this was Walter's way of challenging Bobby's presumptions. In some ways, parts of Beth are more reflective of Walter's own life than of Bobby's. Walter told The New York Times back in 1983 that apart from being a good chess player, he, too, was exposed to drugs at a young age. By contrast, it's believed that Bobby didn't struggle with or use drugs or alcohol. www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/entertainment/a34645948/queens-gambit-true-story-beth-harmon/
I haven't watched it but the secondary effects of the TV drama's release have been pleasant. Before my mother was like a captive when I ranted about chess, now my mother is even asking me to explain the Sicilian defense and the difference between open and closed positions. It's a great boon to chess world If only for the fact that it has given you the impetus to review the brilliant games of Judit Polgar and share your analysis with us, thank you.
Thanks. I think you have hit it here. Whatever you think of the series (and I have some reservations) the benefits for the chess community, in so many ways, are obvious.
I know it's about Judit. But think for a moment: almost 20 years have passed and how many players we have with Kasparov's rating? And 2838 is not his peak rating. Everyone else at that time was below 2800. He definitely was a beast then. Makes Judit's victory even more fantastic.
Hi Danny, not sure if you noticed my earlier request. Would it be possible to cover The Cherrin-Judit (New Dehli1990), Judit crushed Cherrin with the King's Indian Defence. Definitely my favourite Judit game. 😃 thanks so much
Hi Daniel! After Bh4 I would have doubled the rooks with Rd4 much earlier. I come from the same town as the Polgar sisters, made a 1st junior price in Szeged as a 13 yo, 1000 years ago. Of course I had poor skills compared to the standards in chess today. Judit is the all time 2nd queen on the board!
Hey mr daniel, while I am really enjoying these selections, are you also going to resume the fischer series and conclude it with looking at the spassky match?
I will resume that series, but there is too much going that it won't be for some time. In the meantime do enjoy the Fischer playlist! th-cam.com/video/yeWtD039fcM/w-d-xo.html
Hi Danny, not sure if you noticed my earlier request. Would it be possible to cover The Judit-Epishin game from Credit Suisse tournament in the 90s, Judit crushed Epishin's Caro Kann. Definitely my favourite Judit game. 😃 thanks so much
For me, the show was so/so... First episode was *amazing* , and I fell in love with the story! But the rest of the show was whatever... We didn't find out anything else about her mother, her father, her stepmother... Rest of the series was just her preparing to play the ultimate *bogeyman* Borgov, which I wasn't all that interested in... Not enough character development. They mentioned the guy that thought her chess in the orphanage, but briefly in the last episode. 7/10 for me, even tho first episode was 10/10
Super game.I’ve just read today’s Telegraph article about sexism in chess- not a thing of the past , alas.Being a bloke , nay , Gentleman , I really can’t speak to this though, except that when I was younger , all the people in my chess club were male and the only lady was the wife of a senior member who made tea and distributed biscuits and kindness.
Sexism in chess is real. Take for example this video. He spends the first 3 mins of the video saying that Kasparov had played 2 other games before and Judith didn't. This is only to suggest that that's the only reason Judith won. In he's mind she wasn't capable of such thing on her own. To me he comes across as sexist just by trying to downplay the win with that explanation.
@@boukman3668 Hmm , Kasparov is a monster player though, it may be that his tiredness did contribute to her win along with her own creative play against his Berlin Defence, which was acknowledged.I have to say the charge of sexism against Danny here is , at worst, not proven.
I'm guessing that this game took place after Kasparov's quote about women chess players. "Women, by their nature, are not exceptional chess players: they are not great fighters." - Garry Kasparov
Dare I say it: Split bish... uh, kni... excuse me, split pawns (and that’s no fun either!)... Or is it ... split bananas? No! No, of course it’s split decisions. You have different viewpoints fighting in your mind, and only sometimes the best idea is the one elected.
How exactly is she the real life Beth Harmon Danny, other than the fact she’s a woman? The similarities pretty much end there 😂 - oh but I know CLICK BATE reasons.
Playing and winning against world champions, being a regular guest in all male top level chess competition, destroying the male competition on the way up, very aggressive playing style, seems like a fair comparison
@@luisbenites4825 The title implies Beth was based on her though, Tevis wrote the novel in the mid 80’s long before Judit was ever heard of. That, plus she shares none of her character traits at all, think it’s a bit of a reach myself.
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instablaster...
Why I couldn't stop picturing Kasparov shaking his head and making faces.
Because Kasparov himself can't stop shaking his head and making faces! ;)
@@thelazymanatee2506 Karpov said he was too emotional. That's just his way.
Here you are: th-cam.com/video/kagK68zt5R4/w-d-xo.html
You can also see a young dread-locked Grischuk :)
Judit's father authored a giant book of chess problems that taught me tactics when I was a kid!
What a book :)
"There, I said it...won't be for the last time"
Wouldn't have it any other way.
Had the Judit Polgar phenomenon appeared in world chess around 2010, we would now be talking about the first woman to go above 2800...
Even in her time she was well above 2700 and - had she had the same tournament participation as the top male players of her era - she had the potential to get much closer to that 2800 barrier than she ultimately did!
Daniel please bring us more of the good stuff :)
She would have been a little bit closer, but 2800 would still have been to much. And not even close. 2800 has allways been top 5( and only with really strong top 5's, otherwhise top2-3). I think at best she would have reached 2750/2760. Still amazing feat, but I think just saying that she was in/around top10 for 3 years says enough of how strong she was
Wow what a game!!!! Defeating Kasparov in that era wasn't so easy as we know that in 2000 he defended his world championship title and that shows that he was in a good form if not at his best. Judit showed great character in that era. Thank You Daniel for sharing such amazing games with your amazing explanations
what??? he lost his WC title to kramnik, but it was a rapid game , and Kaspy experimented berlin for some reason no one knows
Brilliant game brilliantly analysed.
It may not have been Kasparov at “full strength” but it was Kasparov none the less and what an impressive win this is!
Kasparov playing berlin didnt suit his style
Amazing game by Polgar again. Thanks Daniel.
Thanks again Daniel King for your commentary. It really helps me enjoy these wonderful chess games. And in this series, appreciate the strengths of Judit Polgar as a chess player. It explains why she's such a good live rapid chess commentator.
Thx for showing Judit play! Legend!! 👑👸🏻
Actually, Bobby Fischer was the "real-life Beth Harmon" according to this article .... McClain of The New York Times notes that Beth's journey greatly resembles the real-life story of world-renowned chess champion Bobby Fischer in many ways. Beth wins the 1967 U.S. championship in the show, which was the year Bobby won his final American title. Bobby first became a chess champion at the age of 14 - Beth does the same at 16 in the show. Likewise, Bobby taught himself Russian to better prepare for competitions, which is something we see Beth do, as well. In the Netflix show, Beth's hard work pays off as she beats Vasily Borgov in Moscow. Bobby also saw his efforts result in a huge win against Russia’s Boris Spassky.
Personality wise, there are also similarities. Before his death in January of 2008, Bobby was reportedly known to be "socially awkward, provocative, argumentative, and unhappy," as well as someone who lacked "conventional social skills." In The Queen's Gambit, we see Beth struggle to fit in and become increasingly isolated as she continues to hone her skills and dominate the game. McClain's theory is that Walter, who was an amateur chess player himself, took elements of Bobby and transformed him into a female protagonist in The Queen's Gambit to make a statement about equality in the game. Bobby reportedly referred to female chess players as "not so smart" and failed to acknowledge their talents throughout his reign. Perhaps this was Walter's way of challenging Bobby's presumptions. In some ways, parts of Beth are more reflective of Walter's own life than of Bobby's. Walter told The New York Times back in 1983 that apart from being a good chess player, he, too, was exposed to drugs at a young age. By contrast, it's believed that Bobby didn't struggle with or use drugs or alcohol. www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/entertainment/a34645948/queens-gambit-true-story-beth-harmon/
I haven't watched it but the secondary effects of the TV drama's release have been pleasant. Before my mother was like a captive when I ranted about chess, now my mother is even asking me to explain the Sicilian defense and the difference between open and closed positions. It's a great boon to chess world If only for the fact that it has given you the impetus to review the brilliant games of Judit Polgar and share your analysis with us, thank you.
Thanks. I think you have hit it here. Whatever you think of the series (and I have some reservations) the benefits for the chess community, in so many ways, are obvious.
I know it's about Judit. But think for a moment: almost 20 years have passed and how many players we have with Kasparov's rating? And 2838 is not his peak rating. Everyone else at that time was below 2800. He definitely was a beast then. Makes Judit's victory even more fantastic.
rapid game, and she came last in tournament so...
Very Nice video, Judit OP.
what an incredible game! ❤️ enjoyed a lot 😍😍😍
Kasparov: I beat you 8-0 in classical chess!
Judit: *Unfortunately for you, history will not see it that way.*
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Mr King has no haters apparently
There is one Indian guy coming.
strong play by Judit!
Wow, nice game, and great series!
Judith is a legend.no doubt about that but in this game Kasparov played like a 2000 rated
Perhaps she made him look like a weak player...?
I bet Kasparov has nightmares about the Berlin!
Must drive him up the wall!
I'm curious what are considered the best games of all the Polgar sisters.
Probably Judith's win against Anand. I thiiiink in 1993? Anyway, that's an amazing game.
@@IZn0g0uDatAll Also her win over Shirov.
@@davidcopson5800 Yeah that's a completely ridiculous game. Some of the most virtuosic tactics I've ever seen.
Hi Danny, not sure if you noticed my earlier request. Would it be possible to cover The Cherrin-Judit (New Dehli1990), Judit crushed Cherrin with the King's Indian Defence. Definitely my favourite Judit game. 😃 thanks so much
I did see it, thank you for your suggestion, but it is difficult to cover everything!
@@PowerPlayChess Thank you and no problem
Hi Daniel! After Bh4 I would have doubled the rooks with Rd4 much earlier.
I come from the same town as the Polgar sisters, made a 1st junior price in Szeged as a 13 yo, 1000 years ago.
Of course I had poor skills compared to the standards in chess today. Judit is the all time 2nd queen on the board!
Judit demolishes King Kasparov, such a wonderful player
Hey mr daniel, while I am really enjoying these selections, are you also going to resume the fischer series and conclude it with looking at the spassky match?
I will resume that series, but there is too much going that it won't be for some time. In the meantime do enjoy the Fischer playlist! th-cam.com/video/yeWtD039fcM/w-d-xo.html
I so wish she had become World Champion.
Hi Danny, not sure if you noticed my earlier request. Would it be possible to cover The Judit-Epishin game from Credit Suisse tournament in the 90s, Judit crushed Epishin's Caro Kann. Definitely my favourite Judit game. 😃 thanks so much
I did see it, thank you for your suggestion, but it is difficult to cover everything!
@@PowerPlayChess , Thank you!!
On ichess.net he has covered that game
Are you and learn with pv the same person. ? Or was it all deliberate ?
inspired bit of captaincy by Yasser. Changing a negative into a positive.
Smashing Kasparov positionally... Well that was not what I could expect.
Kasparov just never had any space to work in. Great game!
For me, the show was so/so... First episode was *amazing* , and I fell in love with the story! But the rest of the show was whatever... We didn't find out anything else about her mother, her father, her stepmother... Rest of the series was just her preparing to play the ultimate *bogeyman* Borgov, which I wasn't all that interested in... Not enough character development. They mentioned the guy that thought her chess in the orphanage, but briefly in the last episode.
7/10 for me, even tho first episode was 10/10
Super game.I’ve just read today’s Telegraph article about sexism in chess- not a thing of the past , alas.Being a bloke , nay , Gentleman , I really can’t speak to this though, except that when I was younger , all the people in my chess club were male and the only lady was the wife of a senior member who made tea and distributed biscuits and kindness.
Sexism in chess is real. Take for example this video. He spends the first 3 mins of the video saying that Kasparov had played 2 other games before and Judith didn't. This is only to suggest that that's the only reason Judith won. In he's mind she wasn't capable of such thing on her own. To me he comes across as sexist just by trying to downplay the win with that explanation.
@@boukman3668 Hmm , Kasparov is a monster player though, it may be that his tiredness did contribute to her win along with her own creative play against his Berlin Defence, which was acknowledged.I have to say the charge of sexism against Danny here is , at worst, not proven.
Biscuits and Kindness. Is that a new opening?
World Champion Takes back a Move against 17 Year old Judit? Yes or no?
Could you please make a chessbase.com dvd on Judit Polgar? She may not be a world champion, but she is a champion nonetheless.
I'm guessing that this game took place after Kasparov's quote about women chess players. "Women, by their nature, are not exceptional chess players: they are not great fighters."
- Garry Kasparov
Dare I say it: Split bish... uh, kni... excuse me, split pawns (and that’s no fun either!)... Or is it ... split bananas? No! No, of course it’s split decisions. You have different viewpoints fighting in your mind, and only sometimes the best idea is the one elected.
A poor opening choice by Kasparov. The Berlin is not his kind of chess, really. I think it showed quickly once we were out of the opening.
How exactly is she the real life Beth Harmon Danny, other than the fact she’s a woman? The similarities pretty much end there 😂 - oh but I know CLICK BATE reasons.
Playing and winning against world champions, being a regular guest in all male top level chess competition, destroying the male competition on the way up, very aggressive playing style, seems like a fair comparison
@@luisbenites4825 The title implies Beth was based on her though, Tevis wrote the novel in the mid 80’s long before Judit was ever heard of. That, plus she shares none of her character traits at all, think it’s a bit of a reach myself.
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