hey, as we now use thumbnail indicators I've been experimenting a bit with leaving them out of the title as it looks a bit cleaner in my opinion. I'd love to hear your opinion on it though if you have any input.
@@Harstem hey, great vid as always. As for me, indicators in thumbnails are a bit small and it takes some processing time to understand which video it is
Yo Kevin, yesterday night I had an (IMO) amazing idea for a BGMWSS episode. How about that you use the buildorder of one of your IODIS balance complains and try to beat a GM with it?
That would be hilarious, but also probably impossible unless it's one of the really high level games. He can't just not make probes for 5 minutes and beat anyone in GM.
Cheesiest Man Alive is either Harstem smashing opponents or dying to JUST proxy stargate. It's like watching a guy try to go pro in boxing, get really good, but constantly gets left-hooked hard enough to get dropped onto the mat. So even when he's having a great fight, a single knockout blow just ends it out of nowhere. Gotta get that block up Harstem.
I mean.. people do the proxy stargate because it's nearly impossible for the cannon rusher to deal with it, and that's why cannon rushes don't really see much real use at the top levels of play. It's all well and good to say that the cannon rusher should be prepared for it, but the real answer is the way to be prepared for it is to not be a cannon rusher in the first place.
Harstem something even better about that low ground spot on Glittering Ashes, which is that if you position your probe correctly next to the ramp you can glitch through a full pylon wall by building a pylon. I dunno if this also works with a cannon but that spot is super broken.
Does anyone know Harstem's key bindings? I went through some of his videos and it seems that the probe patrol command is set to the default "P". Does he have an alternative key assigned to that command or he is only using the "P" key?
Harstem- “Am I bad at canonning or are the maps bad?” Something a Terran player would never say in a sentence- “Am I bad?” It’s always the map or imbalance other races for them. XD
BGMWSS Ideas: -What race am I?: Wall with pylons everywhere a Terran would wall with supply depots (semi-wall so your units can get through) -Omniscient: Have 15-20 observers and/or oracles constantly on the map -How does this game work?: Can’t rally anything from production structures (except probes), only chrono structures that aren’t doing anything -Kronos: a ridiculous amount of oracles and stasis wards everywhere -Noah’s Ark: build at least one of each unit, with each upgrade and each building
Tbh on omniscient I once had about 10 observers through the map and I played my opponent like a fiddle. I'm nowhere near gm tho haha but damn, playing with total map vision felt like cheating.
Why defenders never attack the probes who are rushing ? If they die, they can't build more cannons/batteries. I always try to put 2 SCVs to chase the probes while other SCVs try to kill the cannons/pylons. What do you think ?
Having multiple workers chasing the probe doesn't really accomplish anything that having 1 worker chasing them doesn't already do. The workers move at the same speed obviously (and zealots are slower), so either way the cannon rush probe is just going to be running in circles without actually being killed no matter how many workers are chasing them unless they make a mistake (and you also can't surround a worker because they can path through enemies by gathering/returning resources). Obviously if you get the chance you should still try to kill them, but sending multiple workers generally isn't going to kill them so it just wastes resources on nothing. It's very hard to kill the probe until you have ranged units.
You should get coaching from PrintF. There's so much to learn from the master canon rusher. Also spend some time with the map editor, you will find all the good canon spots at a leisure pace.
U can wall in his base with pylon and forge ... so dont build a forge is ur base, go in his base with 1 probe at start. So u save minerals and can have canons in his base, before he has his first units.
BGMWSS Idea Mother Knows Best Mothership recall rush opponent and make a one stand attack in your opponents main base. Not allowed to retreat. May reinforce with troops. You may macro afterwards if initial rush fails to kill, or not.
Kind of off topic, but an idea for Beating GM with stupid stuff: You're only allowed to have 1 unit type per set of upgrades. Example: The game starts, you're on 0/0/0. Say Adepts only. 5 Minutes in, you finished 1/1/1, now you may add another unit. Now you could go e.g. Adepts + Immortals. ... And so on. Same thing with Air and the separate Air upgrades. To make it more difficult you could also start with no units at 0/0/0, but that might be a bit too much to ask for :D
"it is what it is" is such stupid nonsense. You mean something like "nothing I can do about it now". But you could have prepared better. Like practicing these new maps with a teammate.
No series name in the video title?
hey, as we now use thumbnail indicators I've been experimenting a bit with leaving them out of the title as it looks a bit cleaner in my opinion. I'd love to hear your opinion on it though if you have any input.
@@Harstem I liked it in the title but might just be because that's what I'm used to.
@@Harstem hey, great vid as always. As for me, indicators in thumbnails are a bit small and it takes some processing time to understand which video it is
@@Harstem I enjoy it in the title
@@Harstem Also prefer it in the title, to help new viewers understand when they're going to lose IQ from watching :)
Yo Kevin, yesterday night I had an (IMO) amazing idea for a BGMWSS episode.
How about that you use the buildorder of one of your IODIS balance complains and try to beat a GM with it?
Gute Idee mein germanischer Freund
That would be hilarious, but also probably impossible unless it's one of the really high level games. He can't just not make probes for 5 minutes and beat anyone in GM.
@@stilesRTSHebst du die Hand regierst du das Land
I approve.
@@ehk5948 maybe only copy unit composition, but macro like a gm
"This has been a desastrous morning so far," at 12:54 is a great answer when people ask "hey how u doing?" XD
Lmfao love the thumbnail keep up the memer thumbnails
sometimes i think of playing ladder, but then i watch your vods. much love, you save me a lot of stress!
Cheesiest Man Alive is either Harstem smashing opponents or dying to JUST proxy stargate. It's like watching a guy try to go pro in boxing, get really good, but constantly gets left-hooked hard enough to get dropped onto the mat. So even when he's having a great fight, a single knockout blow just ends it out of nowhere. Gotta get that block up Harstem.
I mean.. people do the proxy stargate because it's nearly impossible for the cannon rusher to deal with it, and that's why cannon rushes don't really see much real use at the top levels of play. It's all well and good to say that the cannon rusher should be prepared for it, but the real answer is the way to be prepared for it is to not be a cannon rusher in the first place.
33:36
The dark templar are warping inside your house!
Harstem : " I find those proxy Stargate really hard to deal with"
The entire terran community (even Clem) : "Thx captain, did not notice"
There are no reformed cannon-rushers, only active cannonrushers and relapsing cannonrushers :)
33:33 Nuclear launch detected! Kevin anxiously starts looking for the red dot.
Harstem something even better about that low ground spot on Glittering Ashes, which is that if you position your probe correctly next to the ramp you can glitch through a full pylon wall by building a pylon.
I dunno if this also works with a cannon but that spot is super broken.
Harstem! That was not a ghost , but rather a DT - build an observer, quickly! 33:35
I have traversed the stars, seen countless eons wheel above
but never have I seen such immaculate cannons
This channel has made me play more sc and ive learned a lot
You can see how seriously committed Harstem is to cheasing, than now he doesn't care about blowing up creeps anymore xD
"lets play it out" >quits after a minute
Does anyone know Harstem's key bindings? I went through some of his videos and it seems that the probe patrol command is set to the default "P". Does he have an alternative key assigned to that command or he is only using the "P" key?
Harstem- “Am I bad at canonning or are the maps bad?”
Something a Terran player would never say in a sentence- “Am I bad?” It’s always the map or imbalance other races for them. XD
A better title:
"What happens when you do some clown moves but with style?" XD
I want to hear more of Harstems "British Accent"
The turnover rate for cannon rushes is insane
Like that's 7 games in the time it takes me to play 2 xD
@Harstem I am just a Diamond scrub, but isn't it more efficient to crono right at the beginning in PvP cannon rush?
where is archon mode??????????? why did they remove it?
"it was a stupid game, but stupid games also need to be won" hahahahaha Gaat lekker ouwe ;)
BGMWSS Ideas:
-What race am I?: Wall with pylons everywhere a Terran would wall with supply depots (semi-wall so your units can get through)
-Omniscient: Have 15-20 observers and/or oracles constantly on the map
-How does this game work?: Can’t rally anything from production structures (except probes), only chrono structures that aren’t doing anything
-Kronos: a ridiculous amount of oracles and stasis wards everywhere
-Noah’s Ark: build at least one of each unit, with each upgrade and each building
Tbh on omniscient I once had about 10 observers through the map and I played my opponent like a fiddle. I'm nowhere near gm tho haha but damn, playing with total map vision felt like cheating.
I just Watched your 1 hour 15 min game cast by lowko all this for a draw he he GG
LOL top tier thumbnail
Is proxy void imba, or does Harstem suck?
Why defenders never attack the probes who are rushing ? If they die, they can't build more cannons/batteries. I always try to put 2 SCVs to chase the probes while other SCVs try to kill the cannons/pylons.
What do you think ?
Having multiple workers chasing the probe doesn't really accomplish anything that having 1 worker chasing them doesn't already do. The workers move at the same speed obviously (and zealots are slower), so either way the cannon rush probe is just going to be running in circles without actually being killed no matter how many workers are chasing them unless they make a mistake (and you also can't surround a worker because they can path through enemies by gathering/returning resources). Obviously if you get the chance you should still try to kill them, but sending multiple workers generally isn't going to kill them so it just wastes resources on nothing. It's very hard to kill the probe until you have ranged units.
darn good games cap'n
You appear to be the better cannon rusher. Kudos
I gotta say when I get cannoned and I defend the followup is either DT or void ray so the ending to the final game made perfect sense.
Versus Terran game was insane!
Why aren't you sending 3rd probe to scout around the map by default? If you find something - just build cannons next to it.
tanks your eco
@@FrederickFIintstone you know what else tanks your Eco? Voidrays in your mineral line
Foxtrot, Unicorn...hah. heard that.
Whats the highest rank harstem reach?
looking good
31:28 I heard that, not the kind of gas I was expecting to hear during a game.
The poop man!!!
You should get coaching from PrintF. There's so much to learn from the master canon rusher. Also spend some time with the map editor, you will find all the good canon spots at a leisure pace.
He did get coaching from PrintF before lol.
Please we need another concert Harstem.
@28:43 Harstem is briefly space ghost
You should submit an IIODIS complaint form for the bunker SCV that the zealot could not attack...
One loves too see it ✌🏼
C v C - My fav mirror match-up.
Harstem going to file an IMBA report on the forums against void rays.
So painful streak :(
I would have already thrown my monitor out of the window
In the game, where the other guy got the gold, couldn't you have walled him into his base? So he can't evacuate the probes to the gold.
got some Artosis vibes from that hahahahaha
MaNa is still playing? i remember his like 3 hour game against FireCake. that shit was insane to watch
yep, thats right i just noticed how old this video is
U can wall in his base with pylon and forge ... so dont build a forge is ur base, go in his base with 1 probe at start.
So u save minerals and can have canons in his base, before he has his first units.
Love this
Very entertaining.
When the cheeser becomes the cheeseth... ;)
Harstem and terrible start = classic
love the thubnail
Have you played Starcraft 2 before? Maybe its best to start with Starcraft original?
how to beat Harstems cannons? Easy just proxy stargate, works 100% of times
The new maps are really rough for Harstem.
A lot of mmr loss, he should be the one averse to change XD
Fkn cannon rushers, mane!
It ain't easy being cheesy...
that thumbnail
That map has a roomba
I would have expected a base trade or something
It's a little more entertaining when Harstem doesn't lose 5 in a row
Oh Harstem, you are soooo corrupted.
Everyone is protoss in your league
wtf...wbf was right in front of you...but 1 pixel too much into the building he build up i guess. the pylon blocks it and your drone also
"Are the maps bad for cannoning, or am I bad at cannoning?" -> How about cannoning is bad?
shuddup
Are terran builders imba, or... ? 😄
In literally every game, a cheeser lost. Is there a lesson to be learned here?
Maybe it is imba after all. Game is imba against rushing. It is easier to hold rush than to rush in the upper skill levels.
BGMWSS idea (only for mirror match): Scout and keep doing same thing your opponent does
Yeboii
wow..... -1 for using spiderman
love watching cannon rushers lose in these first games. sorry harstem
Lol. That moment when yourealize one of the best players on the planet fucks cannon rush up more than you ever did in Gold league :D
harstem is too defensive on his cannon rush. if they don't pull probe, just build a cannon at their mineral line at the beginning
BGMWSS Idea
Mother Knows Best
Mothership recall rush opponent and make a one stand attack in your opponents main base. Not allowed to retreat. May reinforce with troops.
You may macro afterwards if initial rush fails to kill, or not.
Cannon vs. Bunker
absolutely smelly
Harstem, can i work for u?
Do...do they kiss?
Mapmaker
Mapmaker
Make me a map
Kind of off topic, but an idea for Beating GM with stupid stuff:
You're only allowed to have 1 unit type per set of upgrades.
Example:
The game starts, you're on 0/0/0. Say Adepts only.
5 Minutes in, you finished 1/1/1, now you may add another unit. Now you could go e.g. Adepts + Immortals.
... And so on.
Same thing with Air and the separate Air upgrades.
To make it more difficult you could also start with no units at 0/0/0, but that might be a bit too much to ask for :D
Why would anyone upload a series of games like this?
Three quick losses and I stopped watching.
"100 seconds for dt blink"
I'm soo glad you distracted yourself from finishing your comment because dts DO NOT NEED BLINK IN THE FIRST PLACE. 😂
First
A true youtube hero.
@@christianr9649 nah I always do this at his Twitch too :)
@@Firestorm-tq7fy So you are a twitch + youtube hero. Congrats!
@@christianr9649 anything wrong with that or you just searching for beef?
@@Firestorm-tq7fy I just do not understand the "sense" of that "comment". Sorry
"it is what it is" is such stupid nonsense.
You mean something like "nothing I can do about it now".
But you could have prepared better.
Like practicing these new maps with a teammate.