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@@noneofyourbusiness4133 That's Netherlands.. the french flag has vertical bars (blue, white, red), and while the Netherlands is horizontal (red, white, blue)
It's the easiest part of Starcraft though. To just plonk down pre-ordained buildings at fixed points in time every single game Reacting decisively to builds you've not seen before, micro, consistent macro, strategising on limited scouting information, these are all much harder
Yeah, players below D2 won't get the proxying probe in position in time, or will forget to start the pylon and end up 20s late. Serral would be horrified if he saw what D3 is like lmao
@@graog123 I think there's a lot of things in Starcraft that are "easy". Doing it correctly, and doing it correctly while there's a bunch of stuff going on trying to prevent you from doing it is a different story. Almost everything in Starcraft, done in isolation in a controlled environment, is easy.
@@danielskrivan6921 Nothing ever happens in the first 2 minutes of a game that a standard build order isn't already prepared to deal with. You just execute it. Easy af
Serral: "You predicted 2 correctly didn't you?" Harstem: "Yeah" Serral: "That's just unlucky on my part" LMAO! I agree with you Serral, I also think you missed a great time for an "I'm glad you could finally beat me at something Kevin" joke in there lol.
You've got the faces mixed up for which positions were picked by who at the 17:30 mark. Serral picked Masters 3, Hastem picked Masters 2 but the graphics showed the opposite.
"Too much control to be bronze league" - as the terran literally ran his seige tanks up the ramp to fight the voidrays. He also saw voidrays and kept producing tanks.
Yeah the Terran was definitely worse. The Toss did pull back a void ray once to save it, and kited a bit with his tempest. That's higher micro than Bronze.
@@hamster_designs you made a smalle error at 16:03 You flipped the player’s tokens for their choices: serral has M2 and Harstem has M3! Otherwise excellent job!
I didn't even notice your name right away otherwise I'd have guessed it instantly. My initial thought was D2 because tight voidray opener and terran not reacting because he didn't notice or didn't scout is something that could totally be my terran 50% of the time. Then I saw the voidray splits at the last second and thought, "most diamond protoss would not bother" It's now D1 atleast.
@@cobble3231 "Serral clearly didn't see those sick void ray splits at the end of my game" "You need to blink micro them to impress Serral!" "blink micro isn't that hard tbh" Yeah, I'd like to see you blink voidrays around... I would be impressed just as Serral would.
I'm shocked that you got Serral on the show. Amazing I hope he comes next season
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Serral being so Finnish and talking little and very precise. Harstem getting touchy at 7:24 " you don't have to school me" - interesting dynamics. Really fun to see you both, great editing, great episode, thanks!
13 points! I get better every week. This week, I was within 1 league on every guess. There were no guesses that were way off. That's my biggest takeaway from this one. I beat Reynor last week, but couldn't beat Serral. Proof that Serral is the true GOAT. . . . R1 - Diamond 3 - 3 Points R2 - Gold 1 - 4 Points R3 - Bronze 2 - 4 Points R4 - Masters 2 - 2 Points
Guy who submitted his Zerg replays: "Aww, yeah. I think this is a game I can be proud of to show off my skills." (Sees the guest judge) (Disappointed black guy meme)
Me on last episode: That cannon rush is terrible. Only I CR even worse than that. Me on this episode: Of course I know him. it's me. (Hi mom, I'm on youtube)
My final score was 1! I'm very good at this. Im Diamond 3 NA, so Im kinda at this sweet spot to be really good at this game. I can recognize stuff I wasn't doing at lower levels that helped me get to diamond when I worked on them, but I can still recognize the stuff I'm still working on or mirco I simply can't do yet.
This is so HYPE. Also my Finnish friend always told me that Serral's savage, so happy to see it myself today. Also someone check on chuck after that savage burn from Serral.
I love the trend in the scores, how active pro-gamer guests are so much worse than those who stream more often and watch viewer games. Except of course for Pig, who let the entire SC community down with his performance.
In PiG's defense, most of the replays he goes though are either Florencio or similarly inspired. I don't think anyone could accurately figure out leagues from watching those all the time.
@@lynk5902 yeah. Imagine watching Florencio cannon rush badly, weakly macrod võid rays, then walking templars out of gateways because he doesn't use warpgate or control groups....... Then guessing anything above Bronze league 😂 I'd love to see some Florencio replays make it to Rand Roulette, now that you mention it!
I think I'll parctise a build order vs the ki till it looks fine go for a mp game get my bronze rating back and send the gameplay in just to confuse everyone ;)
It's like asking a BILLIONAIRE, how much is the price of fuel today? They don't know and they don't care. It's beneath them. Serral, what's the rank of this guy trying to micro? Serral: He didn't quite understand what's going on. 2:03 Serral's polite way of saying everyone beneath him is stupid hahahahhaah
I love how serral is so complimentary to everyone's play. A lot of people on this show take the mik out of plat level, but as the game is 10 years old plat isn't what it used to be and there is usually a lot of good moves people make there. I was coaching my friend in gold and I was amazed at the skill level because when I was gold in wol it was completely different. 1st impressions stick with you.
Damn about time we get serral!! ❤ also it's funny how both of u were using the terms overestimating and underestimating wrong xd much love tho. Keep up the great work Harstem ❤
Serral is very polite! Saying "it was unlucky on my part" instead of "it was luck on your part" ^^ Also: Serral should have said something like "I guess I also have to thank your parents for that" after the score reveal xDD
This reminds me of the saying "those who can, do, those who can't teach" Serral master player, Harstem master commentator. Harstem does it very well though, and a great judge of talent.
I don't get one thing: why did harstem get 2 points in the last round? He picked masters 2, the player was masters 1 but the graphic put him at masters 3.
Is there something wrong with the scoreboard for vs the world? I had 6 points last week, voted something in Gold, now my guesses from week 2 and 6 have been canceled and 7 and 8 are showing as gold 1 (did not vote on 7 so for and 8 is next week^^^), so I am at 13 points according to the list. I would be top 3 or 10 now, dammit (don't know, if I went gold 1 or 2 last week). Anyone else having funky stats over there?
Hey Harsterm. Got an Idea that you could cast. It would be amazing if organize a pro players FFA on the arcade IMBALEAGUE. (HOTS EDITION). U decide the mods. Like all units respawn as zombis or everything has stim or RANDOM HUGGERLORDS spawn from the center and nuclear explode when touching something.
hey I dont wanna be annoying, but I got a question/report about the result site...until last week I was doing fine, but now I'm up to 10 points. so I wanted to see how hard I failed for this to happen,and I found that the graph shows a value 0 for last weeks episode , as well as already showing my inputs for episode 7 and 8, even though I didnt put anything in for ep7 yet and putting something in for ep8 obviously isnt possible yet. So yeah, I dont mean to nag, but I think your site is bugged.
I'll talk with the man in charge about it. Thanks for the feedback, don't ever hesitate giving this, it is not annoying, it is actually really helpful.
Did you calculate the final results wrong? Isn't it 1 point for every division you are off? Or are there penalties for wrong league? Because in game 1 Serral was 3 divs off, then 2, then 1 and then 2 again, which should be 8 points in total.
the game in round 3 was definitely silver league game everything in that game looked like my skill level. The floating of 1k minerals while attacking but having some idea of micro.
Harmstem, i know you love to tease that NA players suck and maybe that's true.. .but I'm a mostly NA player who barely ranks diamond 3 on NA, but in Europe for some reason Im classed Master. So you're not wrong that there is definitely a difference in skills, I just think its the other way around :smug:
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Why is your flag the French one in the video? 🇫🇷?
It's like Grindr, but VIP.
Awesome that you guys got an sponsorship. Congrats to Hamster and you on an epic new season.
@@noneofyourbusiness4133 That's Netherlands.. the french flag has vertical bars (blue, white, red), and while the Netherlands is horizontal (red, white, blue)
So proud of Harstem for finally taking a series off of Serral. Truly incredible!
underrated comment
hahahahaha
Low test xD
@@Harstem your lough makes my day even in text lol
I like that Serial stays humble and polite
Harstem: "Do you watch any low level games?"
Serral: "I tune into your stream sometimes"
_if only, lmao_
ouch
I don't know what's more legendary. Having Serral say that lowko sucks directly, or have him imply indirectly that we all suck.
@@tisilviosilence6158 the whole video
@@tisilviosilence6158 it was in IODIS some time ago
oh yeah that was so obvious that I thought you were talking about the "imply indirectly" part lol
Serral once killed 50 probes with one baneling. Then it exploded.
To be honest, it’s him saying that lowly sucks. Absolutely legendary.
"Executing a build order isn't hard." SERRAL out of touch with the common man, lol.
It's the easiest part of Starcraft though. To just plonk down pre-ordained buildings at fixed points in time every single game
Reacting decisively to builds you've not seen before, micro, consistent macro, strategising on limited scouting information, these are all much harder
Yeah, players below D2 won't get the proxying probe in position in time, or will forget to start the pylon and end up 20s late.
Serral would be horrified if he saw what D3 is like lmao
Well he isn't wrong. People just have wrong/other priorities.
@@graog123 I think there's a lot of things in Starcraft that are "easy". Doing it correctly, and doing it correctly while there's a bunch of stuff going on trying to prevent you from doing it is a different story. Almost everything in Starcraft, done in isolation in a controlled environment, is easy.
@@danielskrivan6921 Nothing ever happens in the first 2 minutes of a game that a standard build order isn't already prepared to deal with. You just execute it. Easy af
Serral watches Reynor replay: "Not so impressed"
Serral watches plat1 replay: "Pretty good for sure"
He has a beautiful style for roasting pro players
Serral: "I don't do timings". What a badass.
Serral: "You predicted 2 correctly didn't you?"
Harstem: "Yeah"
Serral: "That's just unlucky on my part" LMAO! I agree with you Serral, I also think you missed a great time for an "I'm glad you could finally beat me at something Kevin" joke in there lol.
Serral * should have said the only low level replays he watches are reynor’s
🤣🤣🤣🤣
* should have
You've got the faces mixed up for which positions were picked by who at the 17:30 mark. Serral picked Masters 3, Hastem picked Masters 2 but the graphics showed the opposite.
Good spot
you got the numbers mixed up at this comment, serral picked masters 3 and harstem picked masters 2
I'm glad someone else saw it. It was driving me crazy lol
Dude, ur error makes this even worse :D
Hamster messing up these last two games of rank roulette. Maybe he's ill, maybe he's tired. Who knows.
No Way you got the golf pro himself, this is going to be an awesome showdown.
"Too much control to be bronze league" - as the terran literally ran his seige tanks up the ramp to fight the voidrays. He also saw voidrays and kept producing tanks.
You underestimate how bad bronze league players are lmao.
well, we were guessing toss. Terran could've been a bronze player unironically. It happens
Yeah the Terran was definitely worse. The Toss did pull back a void ray once to save it, and kited a bit with his tempest. That's higher micro than Bronze.
The difference between silver and bronze is like a 100 points. Most of the time silvers and bronzes crosspaths.
@@colts8146 cries in Bronze 2
I wouldn't expect Serral to be good at this. I would think he never watches games from plebs like us.
😂
Serral: Wait, there's ranks below top50 GM?
wrrr,idts
The only reason Serral doesn't have 10.000 mmr on ladder is because playing on grandmaster level is too low for him.
I love to see Serral smiling and just chilling, hes looking more human
Serral clearly didn't see those sick void ray splits at the end of my game
You need to blink micro them to impress Serral!
@@hamster_designs you made a smalle error at 16:03
You flipped the player’s tokens for their choices: serral has M2 and Harstem has M3!
Otherwise excellent job!
@@hamster_designs blink micro isn't that hard tbh
I didn't even notice your name right away otherwise I'd have guessed it instantly.
My initial thought was D2 because tight voidray opener and terran not reacting because he didn't notice or didn't scout is something that could totally be my terran 50% of the time. Then I saw the voidray splits at the last second and thought, "most diamond protoss would not bother" It's now D1 atleast.
@@cobble3231
"Serral clearly didn't see those sick void ray splits at the end of my game"
"You need to blink micro them to impress Serral!"
"blink micro isn't that hard tbh"
Yeah, I'd like to see you blink voidrays around... I would be impressed just as Serral would.
I'm shocked that you got Serral on the show. Amazing I hope he comes next season
Serral being so Finnish and talking little and very precise. Harstem getting touchy at 7:24 " you don't have to school me" - interesting dynamics. Really fun to see you both, great editing, great episode, thanks!
If you could get day9 on this show it would be absolutely amazing
13 points! I get better every week. This week, I was within 1 league on every guess. There were no guesses that were way off. That's my biggest takeaway from this one. I beat Reynor last week, but couldn't beat Serral. Proof that Serral is the true GOAT.
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R1 - Diamond 3 - 3 Points
R2 - Gold 1 - 4 Points
R3 - Bronze 2 - 4 Points
R4 - Masters 2 - 2 Points
Damn... you really are keeping up the hustle :D
I’m a simple man. I see “Serral” in the title and I click like.
HARSTEM AND THE GOAT CONTENT?! I WILL WATCH THIS ANY DAY ANY TIME
23:23 "How does this game keep going on??"
Uhh... looks like a knife fight in a phone booth, standard ZvZ lol
16:20 that the chips where on the wrong places triggers me really hard don't know why ^^
because otherwise his edits are really good. I feel your pain.
@@dominikmagnus maybe it's a Dominik issue ;)
also if Seral was masters 3 and real was masters 1 why did he get 3 points instead of 2 for final round? HAMSTER CHEATING
@@claytonsmith3749 because they changed rules for S2 perfect 0 1 off 2 2 off 3 if im not mistaken ^^
Guy who submitted his Zerg replays: "Aww, yeah. I think this is a game I can be proud of to show off my skills."
(Sees the guest judge)
(Disappointed black guy meme)
Well, he also could have gotten Reynor, would that have been better?
I just love Serral!! What a genuine human!!
19:33 I was really hoping Serral would joking respond here with something like "Yeah, I study my opponents"
Who's that random next to Harstem ?
18:55
Harstem thanks his parents 3 times in a row.
lmao, underrated haha
Serral gotta be one of the funniest guys in the scene
18:20 you can see how proud he is of his joke
Me on last episode:
That cannon rush is terrible. Only I CR even worse than that.
Me on this episode:
Of course I know him. it's me. (Hi mom, I'm on youtube)
My final score was 1! I'm very good at this. Im Diamond 3 NA, so Im kinda at this sweet spot to be really good at this game. I can recognize stuff I wasn't doing at lower levels that helped me get to diamond when I worked on them, but I can still recognize the stuff I'm still working on or mirco I simply can't do yet.
diamond 3 is probably the best league to judge games from
They changed so that the minimum points on a wrong guess is 2.
But ride on! I got 3 and was super excited too, diamond 3 for the rank roulette win!
15:55, why you move from master 3 to master 2 for serral? and harstem from master 2 to master 3 ?
Does Serral even know what a Top-100 to Top-50 GM player looks like? Let alone everyone below?
Serral is on a league above most Grandmasters so to see what Plat looks like would be like seeing a bronze 3 game for him.
This is so HYPE. Also my Finnish friend always told me that Serral's savage, so happy to see it myself today.
Also someone check on chuck after that savage burn from Serral.
I want Florencio the Sewer Mermaid on this show! That would be so fun
"Harstem is here as well but who cares" xD
Against any other opponent that high score would have been the talk of the town(aka the comment section).
17:57 "It's so difficult to make big mistakes"
Guess I found my big talent
Finally you are doing a rank roulette with serral btw thank you for everything i improved massively bc of you
Huh, the tokens got placed on the wrong spots in round 4.
I love the trend in the scores, how active pro-gamer guests are so much worse than those who stream more often and watch viewer games. Except of course for Pig, who let the entire SC community down with his performance.
And Rotti too lol
In PiG's defense, most of the replays he goes though are either Florencio or similarly inspired. I don't think anyone could accurately figure out leagues from watching those all the time.
@@lynk5902 yeah. Imagine watching Florencio cannon rush badly, weakly macrod võid rays, then walking templars out of gateways because he doesn't use warpgate or control groups.......
Then guessing anything above Bronze league 😂
I'd love to see some Florencio replays make it to Rand Roulette, now that you mention it!
Serral - "I'ts quite surprising.. but is it?" 😂
First game: Diamond 3 (+2, Diamond 1)
Second game: Platinum 2 (+1, Platinum 1)
Third game: Gold 3 (+2, Silver 2)
Fourth game: Masters 3 (+2, Masters 1)
Total: +7. 3 points above Harstem, 5 points below Serral. You love to see it.
16:10 why did they swap guesses in the top thing?
Hopefully Serral can watch some of those VODs so he can improve for dreamhack.
I love that slim door behind Serral - good motivation to never get fat!
Congrats Kevin, you found the only matchup where you will ever be able to beat Serrel. ;p
There is an error in the graphic at 15:58 Your grades get switched and I became immensely confused.
16:03 aren't those switched around?
Serral sounds like Joshua from Wargames
I rly love this series, keep doing it :D
Cant believe the best player has blessed us with his presence!! I guess Serral is ok too.
First and last game when Harstem beat Serral. Also you can see how Serral hate that :D
I think I'll parctise a build order vs the ki till it looks fine go for a mp game get my bronze rating back and send the gameplay in just to confuse everyone ;)
It's like asking a BILLIONAIRE, how much is the price of fuel today? They don't know and they don't care. It's beneath them.
Serral, what's the rank of this guy trying to micro?
Serral: He didn't quite understand what's going on. 2:03
Serral's polite way of saying everyone beneath him is stupid hahahahhaah
I love how serral is so complimentary to everyone's play. A lot of people on this show take the mik out of plat level, but as the game is 10 years old plat isn't what it used to be and there is usually a lot of good moves people make there. I was coaching my friend in gold and I was amazed at the skill level because when I was gold in wol it was completely different. 1st impressions stick with you.
Super cool format!! Great idea Harstem keep it on
Just a remark - the zerg at 18:00 was GM multiple times and was not GM in the game just because didnt have enough games played to have GM league :)
what's his mmr?
@@dylansevitt 5500+
Damn about time we get serral!! ❤ also it's funny how both of u were using the terms overestimating and underestimating wrong xd much love tho. Keep up the great work Harstem ❤
Great vids, hilarious as well, earned a sub on the IODIS series, Best of luck!
Lmao it must be so hard to try to judge the difference between a 2900 player and a 3300 player when you're a 7.4k zerg poor Serral.
Serral is very polite! Saying "it was unlucky on my part" instead of "it was luck on your part" ^^
Also: Serral should have said something like "I guess I also have to thank your parents for that" after the score reveal xDD
Hamster.. are you dizzy from spinning the wheel? is that why the chips are switched for the last game?
This reminds me of the saying "those who can, do, those who can't teach" Serral master player, Harstem master commentator. Harstem does it very well though, and a great judge of talent.
Oh Boi. Haven't even started watching the episode and I am already SO hyped xD
I don't get one thing: why did harstem get 2 points in the last round? He picked masters 2, the player was masters 1 but the graphic put him at masters 3.
The 4th game has their guesses backwards on the chart...
Is there something wrong with the scoreboard for vs the world? I had 6 points last week, voted something in Gold, now my guesses from week 2 and 6 have been canceled and 7 and 8 are showing as gold 1 (did not vote on 7 so for and 8 is next week^^^), so I am at 13 points according to the list. I would be top 3 or 10 now, dammit (don't know, if I went gold 1 or 2 last week).
Anyone else having funky stats over there?
It is being looked into.
@@Harstem Thanks Cap
Hey Harsterm. Got an Idea that you could cast. It would be amazing if organize a pro players FFA on the arcade IMBALEAGUE. (HOTS EDITION). U decide the mods. Like all units respawn as zombis or everything has stim or RANDOM HUGGERLORDS spawn from the center and nuclear explode when touching something.
It would be even better to have some LotV edition. But man, it's been a long time since IMBA league
Wow, what a guest
hamster, not a big deal but on round 4 you got the poker chips backwards! amazing videos and editing as always thought
Serral observing games faster than players are playing
The points for serral are wrong, no?
Please change the roulette wheel so it's numbered, I have no freak'n idea what the levels are from the icons! :-) :-)
great series. love seeing Serral outside of tournaments
So Winter next week with Lowko auto in the finals?
What if I told you, we will have both? ;) And maybe even more
There's no way this season is complete without Tastosis and Scarlett
WHY from 5 to 4 rounds ? :( i loved round 5
Of course I have to like and comment when you have any of the big 3 EU zergs on.
hey I dont wanna be annoying, but I got a question/report about the result site...until last week I was doing fine, but now I'm up to 10 points. so I wanted to see how hard I failed for this to happen,and I found that the graph shows a value 0 for last weeks episode , as well as already showing my inputs for episode 7 and 8, even though I didnt put anything in for ep7 yet and putting something in for ep8 obviously isnt possible yet. So yeah, I dont mean to nag, but I think your site is bugged.
I'll talk with the man in charge about it. Thanks for the feedback, don't ever hesitate giving this, it is not annoying, it is actually really helpful.
@@Harstem wow, quick. You rock man :)
Daaamn, I got 3 correct out of 4. Spot on. I only missed the first because I thought they would be higher on NA.
Omg Zerg God Serral ❤️
Did you calculate the final results wrong?
Isn't it 1 point for every division you are off? Or are there penalties for wrong league?
Because in game 1 Serral was 3 divs off, then 2, then 1 and then 2 again, which should be 8 points in total.
Being only 1 division off is already 2 points. (To reward guesses that are exactly correct more)
@@Ikkalyzte That is absolutely correct! We wanted to reward perfect guesses a bit more this season, hence the slightly adjusted score system :)
Right, thanks for the clarification and sorry
@@Monkeyheadtpc Don't worry ^^ If you don't know about this, it's perfectly reasonable to be confused here ^^
wasnt harstem only 1 off on the last one?
Serral is my old stereotype of what a Starcraft player probably looks like. But, it turns out they look like the nerds who bully the other nerds.
The Rank Roulette goat has arrived, joined by Serral.
Grubby is streaming -sc2 again, please have him on!
"First of all: it's north america" hahahaha god i love it
the game in round 3 was definitely silver league game everything in that game looked like my skill level. The floating of 1k minerals while attacking but having some idea of micro.
I'm not sure how this is supposed to be scored, but if each person gets a point for each spot they are off, then the final scores don't make sense.
Round one:
Serral: Platinum 1 - Score 3
Harstem: Masters 3 - Score 1
Actual: Diamond 1
Round two.
Serral: Diamond 2 - Score 2
Harstem: Platinum 1 - Score 0
Actual: Platinum 1
Round three.
Serral: Silver 3 - Score 1
Harstem: Silver 2 - Score 0
Actual: Silver 2
Round four.
Serral: Masters 3 - Score 2
Harstem: Masters 2 - Score 1
Actual: Masters 1
Hamster's final score:
Serral 4 3 2 3 = 12
Harstem 2 0 0 2 = 4
Actual final score:
Serral 3 2 1 2 = 9
Harstem 1 0 0 1 = 2
Harmstem, i know you love to tease that NA players suck and maybe that's true.. .but I'm a mostly NA player who barely ranks diamond 3 on NA, but in Europe for some reason Im classed Master. So you're not wrong that there is definitely a difference in skills, I just think its the other way around :smug:
There is a visual bug right now that gives some players master promotion regardless of mmr. EU Masters is around 4600 mmr I think
I really want to know who the last guest is.
It's not the one, that comes on next week ;)
@@hamster_designs never heard of that TBD guy, lol.
I looked at the ranks and I'm actually doing really well, finally I get to win at something.
Thumbnail game so strong!
Final round score for Serral was 2, not 3, no?
one rank difference is 2 points, two ranks is 3 points and so on
@@gigatrihard8607 OK 😊 thanks!
Serral is such a character! :D
15:55 Serral told: master 3 and Harstem: Master 2
animacion is wrong
Wait is that THE Serral?
I´m a simple man, I read Serral, I click
Masters 2 is my guess
Masters 2 seems like good, safe option on this one