Jaguar Land Rover 2.0 Ingenium Engine Rattle
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 พ.ค. 2023
- Jaguar , Land Rover , Range Rover , discovery , evoque , f pace. Engine rattle when cold or in worse cases all the time. Quick video showing you how the chain gets when slack and hits against the guides.
Hope it helps some out if you experience this issue.
2.0 ingenium engines.
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Good video. Clear and informative. Thank heavens mine is a 2020 with the modified chain and tensioner. I blame it on the stupidly long oil interval. I change mine every 6000 miles. Not cheap but better than coughing up for all that work.
only use genuine land rover parts some needing changed with under 30k so genuine parts must be junk land JLR should be replacing the chains as they are not fit for purpose i wonder what the dealer would charge to get it done great video
That is unbelievable so much work well done LR
Some years ago, whilst looking for parts in a wreckers yard, I observed a Ford Granada I think, quite high up, and the front engine cover was off, exposong the crankshaft cog meshed with a much larger gear-cog, which in turn drove the camshaft.
Having had a timing chain snap myself, I couldn't help wondering why aren't all engines made with a gear like that,.? Save a lot of aggro wouldn't it. !
@@johnrideout7124 : Good observation on the old Granada engine crank and cam gears. i guessing the multiple camshafts and variable valve timing technologies require these complicated timing chains.
A 2024 sport ( a vehicle people have received around 1st of March) ) was parked in the high street near the shop , we’ll it wasn’t parked , 3 hours later a recovery truck arrived. A car person who knows vehicles won’t go near these vehicles. And people just keep buying JLR because they look nice , argue with people that they are good cars , then get one and end up like this. Good luck for owners that have passed their warranty stage and good luck to the ones that have just got their brand new beautiful off road capable Range Rover.
Simple : Buy an old vehicle or get a Japanese/Swedish vehicle. Or just deal with the problem if you like them.
(Sadly new isn’t better , every modern vehicle is no where near production standards of pre 2010 let alone 90s / 80s.
Nice and informative video. Thank you very much. I have a 2018 D180 too. Just curious, how many kilometers on the odo of this one?
Does the rattle only happen on start-up? . .. Or it also happens during accelaration in various RPM's?
I just change motor oil yesterday and they told me that they found some oil shavings on the oil drain plug.Do you think it has with timing chain to do?!
Thanks in advance .
I have a evoque 2.0 diesel from 2015. 150.000 miles. Should i chagne the timing ? Is this the same engine ? 110 kw. Thanx
I have a Discovery sport 2.0 built in 2017, I now have 82,000 km, I don't hear any noise when starting, at what mileage I would have problems, do you have an I D for that?
Would like your opinion.
Simplex chain, made from finest Chinesium, located at the flywheel end of the engine. Were they smoking crack when they designed this???
Been sayin' this for years, would love to have been at that first meeting... "hey lads, I've had an idea..." Nuts.
Wow! I was really feeling that intro music :D what's the time frame for this job? 30 hours labour? 40? I'm weighing up getting this done on a friends car
Around 10 - 15 hours, allow yourself 2 days buddy 👍
Great video mate. Was the timing cover hard to get off with that sealer stuck on ? I just subscribed.
No, not that hard. Will take a bit of prying but once it starts coming it’s easy enough 👍
Thanks for your reply. Another problem I've come across is trying to undo the inlet cam sprocket bolt. It's way too tight and couldn't move it. Good luck with your new workshop.@@godfreysautomotiveservices
interesting how your diagnosing chain slack by rotating the crank and compressing the oil pressurized tensioners. without oil pressure, there is of course more slack, then would normally be indicated if the engine was running. not arguing that the chain needs to be replaced because it was obvious at first sight at the oil pressurized slack adjuster was at maximum adjustment and could not take up any more tension. I have seen some indication that there was a change (2019) to the idler gear to help prevent chain problems. would be nice to know if it is an upgradable item or not. supposedly it stops chain hysteresis from damaging the guides.
That’s interesting about the idler gear. I’ll do some research into that one. Thank you for the info 👍
Excellent skills. Superior dedication to duty!
Do you know if JLR updated this chain to a improved version? Or is that too much wishful thinking. Got a rattle on a US Ver. 2013 LR2. I'm not qualified to do it, not sure who really is in Georgia / Tennessee area. Someone with attention to detail would be a blessing.
The dealer would undoubtedly kill me deader than dead. I'd be lucky to be able to walk home much less drive. : (
LR2 or Freelander 2 as they are called here use Ford engines if it's a 4 cylinder and Volvo if it's a i6.
Thank you. Is this a petrol or diesel engine?
Diesel engines 👍
Hi all, great video, I have a F-Pace 2017 from new, had service contract with JLR, so always been looked after by them. Always thought that it was a bit 'tapperty' on start up but told normal, had a Nox Sensor replaced by different JLR dealer, they said 'engine noise needs investigation, took in in this week, had a phone call and told it needs a New Engine (covered under extended warranty) is this normal to need a whole new engine? Car has 42,000 on the clock that is all. I would recommend paying for the Extended Warranty if you can.
Bob did you get your new engine put in by JLR yet? Hope the car dong ok. Engine changes are not simple procedures. Your post was 2 months ago.
@@horacesawyer2487 Hi, Yep had to wait 5 weeks to get the car back. They said that I had oil pressure, but not oil flow the the 'tappets' and cam shaft which is why it was a complete engine. I have to say that it is a different car, so much better, for a start the engine is a lot quieter, and a lot more responsive, there was also a slight hesitation when pulling away at a road junction sometimes, but not now. When you think that I had a service plan, so the car was always serviced at Main Dealers, each time I said that the engine seems noisy, but they just said 'they are all like that' and then it turns out there has always been a problem from new.
Would be great to have done a before and after on the sound at the end of the video. Otherwise great! What's the approximate cost?
Yes, didn’t think about that tbh. I’ll see if I can make a short later on this week with a before and after 👍. Prices will vary depending on location etc but expect to pay anywhere over £1300 I would think.
Short uploaded, (before and after) 👍
I spent just shy of $4.5k to repair/replace the timing chain at 70k kilometres. So disappointed the dealer didn’t identify it. Oil change interval way too long. 32k or 2 years. The repairer recommended oil changes at 6 month intervals… quite a difference.
Even though I love the car I am so Disappointed in the product.😕
Привет, какой пробег у данного авто?
Nice job! When I first read years ago that the timing chain was on the back of the engine I had to look to make sure it wasn't April the 1st...
I hope you're charging good money for this job mate, I'm seeing everything from 1500GBP to 4000GBP (dealers) with most places settling in the middle somewhere. It's hell of an involved job and not without risk, so you've got to make it worth your while. I know for a fact that loads of places are saying "nope, not interested"...
There must be getting on for 2 million Ingeniums out there now, don't know how many are diesels, but I think it's safe to say this won't be the last one you get asked to do lol! 🙂
Pitty you didn't film start up when the chain was replaced. It would have been nice to hear the before and after sound back to back.
Can you help me pls,can you show to me cylinder head temprature sensor location .
We have one. I dont like this engine . Where are you based? Ours is at 73k and sounds worse than my ford transit tipper 2008 . I do oil changea on the disco 5 every 6000 myself. No metal in filter
Bring back the ratchet type tensioner. As you rotate the crank you can see the poxy tensioner retracting back into itself. Its becoming a throw away society, 100,000K and send it to the scrap yard!
I made a mistake of buying a 2016 Jag XE with that 2.0 diesel Ingenium engine and 7 weeks into owning it, boom! Now I have a blooming £7.5k paperweight on the drive!🤦🏻♂️
What was the reason and what mileage?
how many hours does this job take?
I would say anywhere from 10-20 hours personally. Depends what comes of easy enough, cleaning time required etc. I don't actually remember the book time i'm afraid.
Achterlijke als je video plaats toon ook hoe je ze moet demonteren van de ketting .
Landrover engineering. Mmmmm. Let's make an engine out of crap and squeeze it into the tightest space we can. Your mission should you choose to accept it is to buy a landrover. This landrover will self-destruct after a few miles.
bordercanoe: we drive them because they are unique and worth the little bit of crap for the great pleasure and satisfaction provided. The ride, the old fashioned CLOCK in the dash. The heavy duty construction (except this crappy timing belt). The feel. Life is short. Drive what you want !
All modern vehicles are rammed under the bonnet compared to the sanity of earlier models.
Recently purchased a used jaguar XE and it's doing this noise from a cold start and lasts about 30sec and the rattle sounds disappears, the dealer said it's normal, it's just the tensioner filling up with oil, but I'm not too sure it's just that, the fact is that I can't hear it afterwards, it's just the first 30sec from a cold start. I've made a short showing what it sounds like, th-cam.com/users/shorts95QFmbPSVTU should I be worried and take it back to the dealer?
I would definitely be taking that back to the dealer, it’s not normal at all. Will need new chains and tensioners before it does anymore damage.
Thanks, appreciate your reply, I'll do that.
@@hugoprh666 Any feedback from the dealer regarding that noise on startup?
@@ryansidhu87 no, the noise went away the day after I posted this comment. It starts properly every time. I guess it was because it was sitting in the driveway for a couple of weeks after I purchased it, after a good 1h drive in the motorway, the sound never came back.
Yes, I can verify if you let the 180d sit for a week, you'll get chain noise for a bit when first fired up...has made me pucker up more than once on my 2017 XE !
turning an engine backwards is no way to gauge chain wear. These engines need an oil flush and fresh oil every 6k from new ,,, long service intervals kill modern engines.
What people designed this venus customer trap ?
Unfortunately they have no one to blame other than themselves... Although it was a collaboration including some Indian and Chinese parts manufacturing from what I read...
Anything JLR should be avoided. These Indian cars are troublesome in one way or another across the range. Why do consumers buy into this rubbish ..
Because everything else about the car is lovely; and not all of the chains are going... 🙂
@handycrowd
But it's not just cam chains. There are massive problems with JLR products across the range from engines/ gearboxes to suspension and electrical systems.
So like every other car then! Personally I'm having a way better experience with a Discovery Sport than I did with my Honda CRV... End of the day there are so many cars out there which are not maintained properly so it's difficult to be 100% conclusive one way or another... Keep smilin' and changin' that oil 🙂 @@Draxindustries1
Jaguar F Pace 2.0t 250 hp. Good or bad?
Mileage?
76,000
@@godfreysautomotiveservices : YIKES !
Can be way less that that. More than any engine ever this 2.0L lump is sensitive to extra regular oil changes and motorway miles... Factory intervals and short journeys, the above video is going to be useful... @@horacesawyer2487