I owned a Nikon D40 coupled with an old lens, and it took sharp photographs. The colors were amazing. Bare minimum editing. Everything cost under $200.00.
I have had a 300D for about 15 years now. I took it on a trip to London with the 35mm f1.8 you chose. The whole set up was cheap enough that I wouldn’t sweat too much if I lost it or got robbed. The pictures it turned in were still great and I didn’t feel that getting a newer camera would have made any difference.
Very interesting video and great idea to make a series! I've begun my photo journey with a D3500 kit (18-55mm and DX 70-300mm) for essentially bird photography. With this kit you can take beautiful photos but I mostly used it in Auto mode. I then bought a mirrorless zfc - with the retro dial and al. - and learned manual and all other stuff (aperture, speed, iso, ...) thanks to that (the WYSIWYG really made a big difference). Since then, I've gone back to DSLR especially a D500 for bird photography and D700 + D750 for macro/nature photography. When you know photography better, you really can go back to the splendid F-lenses and buy them for really cheap. As for bird photography, even if I use the D500 when I want to take really beautiful photos, my go-to camera has since been a Nikon 1 V2 (first mirrorless Nikons, from 2013) with the cx 70-300mm (before I adapted my DX 70-300mm), which gives an eq. 190-810mm lens (crop factor is 2.7x on a 1 inch sensor), which allowed me to make much better photos of small birds than before, as its AF is really good and it shoots 15 frames/s RAW. It weights under a kg, so I can almost take it everywhere. And for a "50mm" everyday photos, I usually carry a Nikon 1 V1 with a 18.5mm (eq. 50mm full frame), which is very small and fits in my pocket. The Nikon v2+70-300mm lens cost around 300-400E used, but they are difficult to find and the v1+18,5mm around 200E. The kit lenses for the Nikon 1 system are pretty good too but lots of malfunctioning one. And with a FT1 adapter, you can adapt any Nikon lens, it even autofocuses with AF-S and AF-P lenses. This ist wonderful for macro too :-) I also own a Z6 but, like the Zfc, don't use them much these days, only the focus peaking and focus shift are interesting, and the great low-light capability for the Z6 (+video but I don't use it that much) - so I only almost use them for fungi photography (the flippy screen of the Zfc being perfect for that). Anyway, sorry for the pâté et merci beaucoup pour cette vidéo !
Earlier this year I picked up a D700 & 50 f1.8D I've also added a 105 f2.8G VR, Tamron SP 24-70 f2.8 VC and Tamron SP 70-200 f2.8 VC. Total money spent less than £1,000 Quality gear really doesn't have to be expensive.
A brilliant headline concept. The Nikon equipment chosen seems to be capable enough. The lenses are a revelation and the image samples made a good case for the system. I liked the way that you spread your budget and above all the system is a route to to the latest Nikon systems. There is a lot of used secondhand digital equipment and much of it is easily good enough. Modern equipment can be much more feature rich like a Swiss Army Knife but most super-features are redundant in typical use cases.
I still use my Nikon D7000 with its kit lens and a 50mm 1.8D for small paid events like birthdays, baptism and small weddings and get very good results, that for me the is the biggest example of the saying that you don't need the latest and greatest to take great pictures
The D7000 is a great camera ! Everyone seems to hate it when you step on Nikon forums, I really can't understand why. Sensor is good, AF is decent and the feature set is excellent for the price !
Amazing video, thank you for shedding light on this topic. Here in Germany you can consistently pick up a sony a5000 with its kit lens for around 200€. Alternatively some 1st gen a6XXX cameras can be found for under 400€. Add to that another cheap prime lens like the 7artisan 27mm f/2.8 or a used viltrox fast aperture apsc lens and you're set for 90% of uses for under 500€. In each case you get a compact, potentent setup with included flash and at leat 20MP. Great times we live in!
I guess it depends the pricepoint. With my 5D, I would probably take advantage of the focusing screen (that I can swap pretty easily for a Nikon FE screen with a split prism) and the great adaptability of the EF mount to make a nice and cheap kit using vintage lenses (mostly M42), and the whole kit would be around $250. A D600 or D700 kit would be much more expensive for sure, and sometimes, depending on the budget, an APS-C camera might be better when it comes to value for money. I guess I need to think this through before making a video about it.
My first camera was a expensieve new Nikon F5 back in 1996. That was lot of money as a student and had money for a cheap 50mm f/1.8 prime lens. Almost 30 years latter i have Nikon D3 x2, D3S, D4 x2, D4S, D5 and D6. Had a Z9 but used it for 1 year a sell it with the Z prime lenses. Have every lens you can think and use now only metal Nikon AF-D prime lenses. The most money go to CF, XQD and CFexpress cards and big Billingham 550 canvas camerabags.There is so many stuff you must buy and learn to use. The best way to learn photography is to buy a cheap old Nikon D700 camera and a cheap AF-D prime lens.
You don't need a D700 specifically to learn photography, you only need a camera that has manual controls and interchangeable lenses.# I have (and absolutely love) a D700, but with a $500 budge, the camera body would already eat $300 of them, leaving very little room for lenses, mamory cards, spare batteries and other accessories like I've shown in this video. Same happens if I replace the D700 with a camera I think is a little better for beginners (which would probably be a D600 or D610). Also being able to carry your lenses to mirrorless cameras in the future is key for someone starting out I think, and that's the only weakness of AF-D glass : you will never have autofocus on anything else than a Nikon F mount camera, whereas I can adapt my AF-S lenses to Nikon Z, Fuji X, Sony E, etc (I know there is the monster adapter that allows for screwdrive AF F mount lenses on Sony E, but it's out of stock, very expensive and has a tendancy to brick cameras because of over-current. I wouldn't even try it tbh)
Nice video 😊 the Sony zv e10 is also a nice little camera but with the kit it’s around 600€ at the moment PS my recommendation for video will b : I would buy a good light and mic instead and use a phone to start ❤
There is so much used gear out there that you're better off buying used if you are doing photography for a hobby. Even some pro work used gear is all you need. Unless you do some kind of highend work I don't think you need any of the new gear.
I do a little bit of paid work from time to time, all the gear I use is bought used. As long as you know where to look and what to look for, you really don't need to buy anything brand new (except maybe storage cards, but that's a very small expense compared to cameras and lenses, isn't it?)
@@uncertainrelease True and I do agree with you. I should have worded my answer a little better. For example I'm a wedding photographer. I really wanted a camera with dual card slots. When the Olympus OMD E-M1ii came out I bought new. Just did not want to risk a card failure. Plus I'm more comfortable shooting Olympus for weddings. Olympus has a feature that works better then any other brand. My Olympus OMD E-M1ii after I take a photo it displays it for 0.3 seconds. This just lets me know if the photo is ok. Sometimes you change settings and forget to change them back. This feature is a safety net. The other example for buying new is when the Sony A9 came a lot of golf photographers jumped on that. In golf with a DSLR you can only take a photo when the club hits the ball. Some golf photographers have been kicked out because sometimes their timing is off. Then there is opengate a lot of content creators jumped on Panasonic because with opengate you only have to do one take. But I did see a photographer with a Canon mirrorless camera showing how to do one take without open gate. He said put the frame lines on and film what you want in the middle. I guess filming in 4K is the way to go. 1080p I think should still work. So buying new I think it's only necessary in very pacific situation.
That doesn't fit in a $500 budget though. D700 - around $300, maybe 200 if you get a really beat up one with 250k clicks on it AF-D 35mm f/2 - at least $200, if not more (couldn't find the samyang you're talking about) 70-210 f/4 - around $80 Sigma 17-35 f/2.8-4 (I couldn;t find a single 17-35 f/2.8 constant) is around $130 used. All coming at around $610 to $710. And then you still need spare batteries, cards, and maybe the vertical grip. This is at least a $750 setup.
@@Moonrakerd I have both, the quality jump is only really visible in lozer light. If you use both in good light, you'll get sensibly similar results, outside of the depth of field of course. And in low light, the D300 is far from bein hopeless (just way more than the D700 for sure)
Execlant autofocus good picture quality. Think still on Amazon under $300. Yes no wi-fi need buy card & reader and neck strap. I bot tripod too. Think total $340. 42x optical zoom is impressive
@@jameshchetwyndjr9739 that was a rethorical question. The P510's sensor is not only very small, you also have no RAW format at all, and no phase detection autofocus. The superzoom is great but for under $500 you can... I dunno buy a Lumix FZ1000 used? that will obliterate the P510 in every way shape and form?
Or, if you are a Canon boy like myself... the best bang for the buck ever is getting a second-hand 5D classic with a 50 mm 1.8 ... you can make wonders with that combination, and its less than 500 USD ... meaning spare change for memory cards + coffee 😆
yes, but make sure to chek everything when it gets to your door. Some things are bound to get through the net, but I have the feeling that MPB's net is not that tight...
@@tonykeltsflorida Yes it seems to be really region dependant. In Europe the service is a bit spotty, but in the UK and US it seems to be a little better? That's my sentiment at least
IF I had only $ 500.00 to spend I would buy a Pentax K100D from 2006 for about $ 100.00 a 6 megapixel camera that has IBIS built in the camera that uses 4 AA batteries . The camera uses modern SDHC cards with the firmware update. I actually have and use the camera I have used Sigma autofocus zoom lens 28- 70 for $ 35.00 Pentax has not changed the K mount lenses and 50mm 2.0 lens can be had for around $ 25.00 manuel focus a new 50 mm autofocus . For a long zoom lens I have a Tamron 75 - 300 autofocus zoom lens $ 50.00 That would give you a basic kit if you want upgrade the camera all the lenses will work on any Pentax camera even brand new camera bodies
That's a possible kit too, however I think 6MP would be too low for most people. Though not the safest recommendation, I think the D300 makes more sense 😅 Also $100 for a K100D seems high compared to what it can do. Why no a K10D instead?
@@uncertainrelease Because I own the camera and I know its limitations and how well it performs. I have shot good wildlife pictures with it. And I feel it would be a good camera to learn photography with. And it does not have the aperture block problems the K30, K50,and K70 have which have better sensors and can be bought within your price range. . I have had aperture block failure in two K50 and one K70 cameras so I can't recommend them. I now have Pentax cameras in the K3 series which do not suffer from the aperture block problems as well as the older cameras before RICHO took over the company
2 years ago I went and bought the Nikon d3100 with two lenses a small backpack camera bag with a back zipper for security reasons tripod and made sure that my nephew had two filters for each lens CPL since they were two different sizes unfortunately The SD card one spare battery the charger already came with the camera and it only cost me $490 bucks and the shutter count only was 250 And for my niece who just recently wanted to get into photography I recently just got her the exact same camera The exact same small camera bag with the back zipper even a lighter tripod which was one of my own given to her freely cost me cost her nothing and it's a quite strong carbon fiber one she needs it for her additional cane usage she has a problems with her brain and walking so I need to make sure she has something very light for her The exact same two lens is the first camera system that I got my nephew Lens one is the 18 to 55 kit lens lens two is the 55 to 300 kit lens and yes they are a tad plastically but quite sharp no they do not offer the speed frames of the d300 that doesn't show up until you get the d7000 then the speeds are matched but that's about the only thing that matches other than that the d7000 and the d7200 and the d7500 blows the d300 out of the water but as you were talking about it's budget we need budget under $500 so I think the 3200 or the 3300 probably could have been a better choice with the exact same two lenses and one media were third somewhere along the line portrait or macro take a pic
I considered getting something like a D3200 or D3300, but really, looking at the specific, I think a kit with great autofocus, good burst rates and weather sealing + great control layout, lots of buttons and a large viewfinder is a better deal than a better sensor in a cheap plastic body lacking controls, weather sealing, burst rate and autofocus performance. But when we're talking about photography, everything is a matter of preference, so your choices are valid (in our budget, with the lenses I included though, maybe a D3300 would be a bit too expensive to still fit under 500)
I have far too much camera gear but can't sell what I don't use as a lot of money would be lost so I am stuck with it all. Be careful what you buy as new gear today is old gear tomorrow!!! Lenses will hold their value much more than camera bodies. Don't be tempted to buy the latest gear!!!
Hello (french accent in the text)...think of the future of the mount when investing in a new kit... Dslr are dead... Look for cheap alternative in mirror less camera as sony nex or micro 4/3. You'll have opportunities of cheap 3rd party lenses manufacturers and evolution in camera gears... Stay with crop sensors because of the maintained prices of full frames lenses...
DSLRs are not dead as long as there is a fool willing to fight for them ;) (and since everyone is getting rid of theirs... it's the perfect time to get them ! Also as I elided to at the end : the camera here is almost the cheapest piece of gear here. Get an FTZ adapter and you can use all of those lenses on a mirrorless Nikon Z camera !) Looking at NEX cameras or MFT... in this budget there is nothing that can match the autofocus accuracy and speed of the D300. They're fine cameras to get, but probably not if you're making a full kit under 500€
Really appreciated the video: excellent. In MFT, I think the best you could do at the budget would be a Lumix G7, the 12-32 f/3.5-5.6 kit lens plus a 25mm f/1.7 standard lens. A pretty formidable kit but I like the one in the video just as much.
"Thinking of the future of the mount" is not really an argument. First because as long as the DSLR works I don't see a compelling reason to change, and since they are still sold new, for someone who wants to take pictures in the present and doesn't want/can't splurge 1k€ on those magnificient mirrorless, they are more than good enough. As for recommanding a Sony NEX camera... lol. Good luck finding quality lenses for the budget. MFT fares a little better, but the cameras that have a good AF (to me the minimum would be the GX80/E-M1) will eat up most of those 500€.
Also wanted to say, I have plenty of knowledge on mirrorless and DSLRs to know their advantages, and while mirrorless is certainly the future, I don't see myself spending 4k€ just to have the latest and greatest. An important side note to remember is that besides the need to rebuy a lens set, there will also be the need to update the storage and the computer to cope with those 20/30/40fps...
@@uncertainrelease yeah, but i mean, there are no more new affordable DSLR lenses released, so you have to do with what is already on the market. As you invest in a "new" kit (camera+lenses) it's neat to find new affordable lenses to play with them. i think of chinese cheap manufacturers as ttartisan, brightin star and so on... it permits to stay in a thight budget and play with novelties (as high aperture manual lenses, macro,...). There are now on the 2nd hand market plenty of affordable mirrorless camera compatible with those cheap manual lenses... which is not true with dslr. i own both dslr & mirrorless and i enjoy playing with both, but for experimenting, i think mirrorless are better nowadays... appart from this, as you play with manual lenses, focus peaking is more important than modern AF.
I have used the D300 as my first ever camera but at this point I wont recommend it anymore. Its missing features that a new photographer can help a lot. I like the idea of spending most of the budget on the lenses but I would get a more expensive body. Canon 760D €269 Canon 17-85mm IS USM €61 Canon 50mm 1.8 STM €77 I currently own a d7200, A7 iii and 6D
I understand you point of view, and as I said in the video, it's not meant to be a kit for absolutely everyone. This is a kit made for someone that wants to get started shooting action, sports, wildlife, photojournalism, that want a dependable camera body and lenses. If you wanted to get a kit under 500 bucks, I'm sure you could fit a Canon M50 with a kit lens and it would be better for an absolute beginner that don't know what they want to do. This wasn't really my goal here. Also, I wanted to include more glass, as this would make the difference for me, I understand if you'd prefer to get less lenses but a more advanced (or newer) camera body.
I owned a Nikon D40 coupled with an old lens, and it took sharp photographs. The colors were amazing. Bare minimum editing. Everything cost under $200.00.
All I can say young man is thank you very much for putting this video together something more of the 99% of us could actually achieve
I have had a 300D for about 15 years now. I took it on a trip to London with the 35mm f1.8 you chose. The whole set up was cheap enough that I wouldn’t sweat too much if I lost it or got robbed. The pictures it turned in were still great and I didn’t feel that getting a newer camera would have made any difference.
Merci beaucoup pour cette présentation à petit budget !
Very interesting video and great idea to make a series! I've begun my photo journey with a D3500 kit (18-55mm and DX 70-300mm) for essentially bird photography. With this kit you can take beautiful photos but I mostly used it in Auto mode. I then bought a mirrorless zfc - with the retro dial and al. - and learned manual and all other stuff (aperture, speed, iso, ...) thanks to that (the WYSIWYG really made a big difference). Since then, I've gone back to DSLR especially a D500 for bird photography and D700 + D750 for macro/nature photography. When you know photography better, you really can go back to the splendid F-lenses and buy them for really cheap. As for bird photography, even if I use the D500 when I want to take really beautiful photos, my go-to camera has since been a Nikon 1 V2 (first mirrorless Nikons, from 2013) with the cx 70-300mm (before I adapted my DX 70-300mm), which gives an eq. 190-810mm lens (crop factor is 2.7x on a 1 inch sensor), which allowed me to make much better photos of small birds than before, as its AF is really good and it shoots 15 frames/s RAW. It weights under a kg, so I can almost take it everywhere. And for a "50mm" everyday photos, I usually carry a Nikon 1 V1 with a 18.5mm (eq. 50mm full frame), which is very small and fits in my pocket. The Nikon v2+70-300mm lens cost around 300-400E used, but they are difficult to find and the v1+18,5mm around 200E. The kit lenses for the Nikon 1 system are pretty good too but lots of malfunctioning one. And with a FT1 adapter, you can adapt any Nikon lens, it even autofocuses with AF-S and AF-P lenses. This ist wonderful for macro too :-) I also own a Z6 but, like the Zfc, don't use them much these days, only the focus peaking and focus shift are interesting, and the great low-light capability for the Z6 (+video but I don't use it that much) - so I only almost use them for fungi photography (the flippy screen of the Zfc being perfect for that). Anyway, sorry for the pâté et merci beaucoup pour cette vidéo !
Congrats on 1k subs my guy ❤
thanks :)
Very interesting and well done video looking forward to your series
Earlier this year I picked up a D700 & 50 f1.8D
I've also added a 105 f2.8G VR, Tamron SP 24-70 f2.8 VC and Tamron SP 70-200 f2.8 VC.
Total money spent less than £1,000
Quality gear really doesn't have to be expensive.
A brilliant headline concept. The Nikon equipment chosen seems to be capable enough. The lenses are a revelation and the image samples made a good case for the system. I liked the way that you spread your budget and above all the system is a route to to the latest Nikon systems. There is a lot of used secondhand digital equipment and much of it is easily good enough. Modern equipment can be much more feature rich like a Swiss Army Knife but most super-features are redundant in typical use cases.
Really good kit. Nice explanation of it all, too.
I still use my Nikon D7000 with its kit lens and a 50mm 1.8D for small paid events like birthdays, baptism and small weddings and get very good results, that for me the is the biggest example of the saying that you don't need the latest and greatest to take great pictures
The D7000 is a great camera ! Everyone seems to hate it when you step on Nikon forums, I really can't understand why. Sensor is good, AF is decent and the feature set is excellent for the price !
Amazing video, thank you for shedding light on this topic. Here in Germany you can consistently pick up a sony a5000 with its kit lens for around 200€. Alternatively some 1st gen a6XXX cameras can be found for under 400€. Add to that another cheap prime lens like the 7artisan 27mm f/2.8 or a used viltrox fast aperture apsc lens and you're set for 90% of uses for under 500€. In each case you get a compact, potentent setup with included flash and at leat 20MP. Great times we live in!
I sold my D3500, the 18-55 kit lens and a 70-300 this year. Never used it .
But I kept my D600 and plan to buy some primes for it. Old but good.
It'd be interesting to see your full-frame kit. Nikon D600 or D700, or Canon 5D or 6D.
I guess it depends the pricepoint. With my 5D, I would probably take advantage of the focusing screen (that I can swap pretty easily for a Nikon FE screen with a split prism) and the great adaptability of the EF mount to make a nice and cheap kit using vintage lenses (mostly M42), and the whole kit would be around $250.
A D600 or D700 kit would be much more expensive for sure, and sometimes, depending on the budget, an APS-C camera might be better when it comes to value for money.
I guess I need to think this through before making a video about it.
My first camera was a expensieve new Nikon F5 back in 1996. That was lot of money as a student and had money for a cheap 50mm f/1.8 prime lens. Almost 30 years latter i have Nikon D3 x2, D3S, D4 x2, D4S, D5 and D6. Had a Z9 but used it for 1 year a sell it with the Z prime lenses. Have every lens you can think and use now only metal Nikon AF-D prime lenses. The most money go to CF, XQD and CFexpress cards and big Billingham 550 canvas camerabags.There is so many stuff you must buy and learn to use. The best way to learn photography is to buy a cheap old Nikon D700 camera and a cheap AF-D prime lens.
You don't need a D700 specifically to learn photography, you only need a camera that has manual controls and interchangeable lenses.#
I have (and absolutely love) a D700, but with a $500 budge, the camera body would already eat $300 of them, leaving very little room for lenses, mamory cards, spare batteries and other accessories like I've shown in this video. Same happens if I replace the D700 with a camera I think is a little better for beginners (which would probably be a D600 or D610).
Also being able to carry your lenses to mirrorless cameras in the future is key for someone starting out I think, and that's the only weakness of AF-D glass : you will never have autofocus on anything else than a Nikon F mount camera, whereas I can adapt my AF-S lenses to Nikon Z, Fuji X, Sony E, etc
(I know there is the monster adapter that allows for screwdrive AF F mount lenses on Sony E, but it's out of stock, very expensive and has a tendancy to brick cameras because of over-current. I wouldn't even try it tbh)
My recommendation:
a) Nikon D700 + AF-S Nikkor 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5 G
b) Nikon D3300 + AF-S Nikkor 35mm f/1.8 G + AF-S Nikkor 18-140mm f/3.5-5.6 G ED
Nice video 😊 the Sony zv e10 is also a nice little camera but with the kit it’s around 600€ at the moment
PS my recommendation for video will b : I would buy a good light and mic instead and use a phone to start ❤
There is so much used gear out there that you're better off buying used if you are doing photography for a hobby.
Even some pro work used gear is all you need.
Unless you do some kind of highend work I don't think you need any of the new gear.
I do a little bit of paid work from time to time, all the gear I use is bought used. As long as you know where to look and what to look for, you really don't need to buy anything brand new (except maybe storage cards, but that's a very small expense compared to cameras and lenses, isn't it?)
@@uncertainrelease True and I do agree with you.
I should have worded my answer a little better.
For example I'm a wedding photographer. I really wanted a camera with dual card slots. When the Olympus OMD E-M1ii came out I bought new. Just did not want to risk a card failure. Plus I'm more comfortable shooting Olympus for weddings.
Olympus has a feature that works better then any other brand. My Olympus OMD E-M1ii after I take a photo it displays it for 0.3 seconds. This just lets me know if the photo is ok. Sometimes you change settings and forget to change them back. This feature is a safety net.
The other example for buying new is when the Sony A9 came a lot of golf photographers jumped on that.
In golf with a DSLR you can only take a photo when the club hits the ball. Some golf photographers have been kicked out because sometimes their timing is off.
Then there is opengate a lot of content creators jumped on Panasonic because with opengate you only have to do one take.
But I did see a photographer with a Canon mirrorless camera showing how to do one take without open gate. He said put the frame lines on and film what you want in the middle. I guess filming in 4K is the way to go. 1080p I think should still work.
So buying new I think it's only necessary in very pacific situation.
a lot of apsc stuff, I would get d700 and samyang 35mm f2, 70-210f4 and some cheap sigma 17-35 2.8
That doesn't fit in a $500 budget though.
D700 - around $300, maybe 200 if you get a really beat up one with 250k clicks on it
AF-D 35mm f/2 - at least $200, if not more (couldn't find the samyang you're talking about)
70-210 f/4 - around $80
Sigma 17-35 f/2.8-4 (I couldn;t find a single 17-35 f/2.8 constant) is around $130 used.
All coming at around $610 to $710.
And then you still need spare batteries, cards, and maybe the vertical grip.
This is at least a $750 setup.
@@uncertainrelease just seen d700 for £110 yesterday, beaten up but alive
@@Moonrakerd I'd rather get a clean D300 if I was recomending a camera to someone 😅
@@uncertainrelease Id rather have less lenses and d700 the quality jump is just huuuge :D
@@Moonrakerd I have both, the quality jump is only really visible in lozer light. If you use both in good light, you'll get sensibly similar results, outside of the depth of field of course. And in low light, the D300 is far from bein hopeless (just way more than the D700 for sure)
My Nikon coolpix p510 with optical 42x zoom 24-1000 was under $300
I guess now we need to compare image quality and autofocus accuracy !
Execlant autofocus good picture quality. Think still on Amazon under $300. Yes no wi-fi need buy card & reader and neck strap. I bot tripod too. Think total $340. 42x optical zoom is impressive
@@jameshchetwyndjr9739 that was a rethorical question. The P510's sensor is not only very small, you also have no RAW format at all, and no phase detection autofocus.
The superzoom is great but for under $500 you can... I dunno buy a Lumix FZ1000 used? that will obliterate the P510 in every way shape and form?
Or, if you are a Canon boy like myself... the best bang for the buck ever is getting a second-hand 5D classic with a 50 mm 1.8 ... you can make wonders with that combination, and its less than 500 USD ... meaning spare change for memory cards + coffee 😆
Still have my 5D, I had a 50mm f/1.8 at some point but I only use it with adapted M42 glass nowadays, even more lenses for less money !
MPB is a great place to find good used gear.
yes, but make sure to chek everything when it gets to your door.
Some things are bound to get through the net, but I have the feeling that MPB's net is not that tight...
I have never had any problems with the Brooklyn NY office of MPB.
@@tonykeltsflorida Yes it seems to be really region dependant. In Europe the service is a bit spotty, but in the UK and US it seems to be a little better? That's my sentiment at least
IF I had only $ 500.00 to spend I would buy a Pentax K100D from 2006 for about $ 100.00 a 6 megapixel camera that has IBIS built in the camera that uses 4 AA batteries . The camera uses modern SDHC cards with the firmware update. I actually have and use the camera I have used Sigma autofocus zoom lens 28- 70 for $ 35.00 Pentax has not changed the K mount lenses and 50mm 2.0 lens can be had for around $ 25.00 manuel focus a new 50 mm autofocus . For a long zoom lens I have a Tamron 75 - 300 autofocus zoom lens $ 50.00
That would give you a basic kit if you want upgrade the camera all the lenses will work on any Pentax camera even brand new camera bodies
That's a possible kit too, however I think 6MP would be too low for most people. Though not the safest recommendation, I think the D300 makes more sense 😅
Also $100 for a K100D seems high compared to what it can do. Why no a K10D instead?
@@uncertainrelease
Because I own the camera and I know its limitations and how well it performs. I have shot good wildlife pictures with it. And I feel it would be a good camera to learn photography with. And it does not have the aperture block problems the K30, K50,and K70 have which have better sensors and can be bought within your price range. . I have had aperture block failure in two K50 and one K70 cameras so I can't recommend them. I now have Pentax cameras in the K3 series which do not suffer from the aperture block problems as well as the older cameras before RICHO took over the company
2 years ago I went and bought the Nikon d3100 with two lenses a small backpack camera bag with a back zipper for security reasons tripod and made sure that my nephew had two filters for each lens CPL since they were two different sizes unfortunately The SD card one spare battery the charger already came with the camera and it only cost me $490 bucks and the shutter count only was 250
And for my niece who just recently wanted to get into photography
I recently just got her the exact same camera The exact same small camera bag with the back zipper even a lighter tripod which was one of my own given to her freely cost me cost her nothing and it's a quite strong carbon fiber one she needs it for her additional cane usage she has a problems with her brain and walking so I need to make sure she has something very light for her The exact same two lens is the first camera system that I got my nephew
Lens one is the 18 to 55 kit lens lens two is the 55 to 300 kit lens and yes they are a tad plastically but quite sharp no they do not offer the speed frames of the d300 that doesn't show up until you get the d7000 then the speeds are matched but that's about the only thing that matches other than that the d7000 and the d7200 and the d7500 blows the d300 out of the water but as you were talking about it's budget we need budget under $500 so I think the 3200 or the 3300 probably could have been a better choice with the exact same two lenses and one media were third somewhere along the line portrait or macro take a pic
I considered getting something like a D3200 or D3300, but really, looking at the specific, I think a kit with great autofocus, good burst rates and weather sealing + great control layout, lots of buttons and a large viewfinder is a better deal than a better sensor in a cheap plastic body lacking controls, weather sealing, burst rate and autofocus performance.
But when we're talking about photography, everything is a matter of preference, so your choices are valid (in our budget, with the lenses I included though, maybe a D3300 would be a bit too expensive to still fit under 500)
I have far too much camera gear but can't sell what I don't use as a lot of money would be lost so I am stuck with it all. Be careful what you buy as new gear today is old gear tomorrow!!! Lenses will hold their value much more than camera bodies. Don't be tempted to buy the latest gear!!!
Hello (french accent in the text)...think of the future of the mount when investing in a new kit... Dslr are dead... Look for cheap alternative in mirror less camera as sony nex or micro 4/3. You'll have opportunities of cheap 3rd party lenses manufacturers and evolution in camera gears... Stay with crop sensors because of the maintained prices of full frames lenses...
DSLRs are not dead as long as there is a fool willing to fight for them ;)
(and since everyone is getting rid of theirs... it's the perfect time to get them ! Also as I elided to at the end : the camera here is almost the cheapest piece of gear here. Get an FTZ adapter and you can use all of those lenses on a mirrorless Nikon Z camera !)
Looking at NEX cameras or MFT... in this budget there is nothing that can match the autofocus accuracy and speed of the D300. They're fine cameras to get, but probably not if you're making a full kit under 500€
Really appreciated the video: excellent. In MFT, I think the best you could do at the budget would be a Lumix G7, the 12-32 f/3.5-5.6 kit lens plus a 25mm f/1.7 standard lens. A pretty formidable kit but I like the one in the video just as much.
"Thinking of the future of the mount" is not really an argument. First because as long as the DSLR works I don't see a compelling reason to change, and since they are still sold new, for someone who wants to take pictures in the present and doesn't want/can't splurge 1k€ on those magnificient mirrorless, they are more than good enough. As for recommanding a Sony NEX camera... lol. Good luck finding quality lenses for the budget. MFT fares a little better, but the cameras that have a good AF (to me the minimum would be the GX80/E-M1) will eat up most of those 500€.
Also wanted to say, I have plenty of knowledge on mirrorless and DSLRs to know their advantages, and while mirrorless is certainly the future, I don't see myself spending 4k€ just to have the latest and greatest. An important side note to remember is that besides the need to rebuy a lens set, there will also be the need to update the storage and the computer to cope with those 20/30/40fps...
@@uncertainrelease yeah, but i mean, there are no more new affordable DSLR lenses released, so you have to do with what is already on the market. As you invest in a "new" kit (camera+lenses) it's neat to find new affordable lenses to play with them. i think of chinese cheap manufacturers as ttartisan, brightin star and so on... it permits to stay in a thight budget and play with novelties (as high aperture manual lenses, macro,...). There are now on the 2nd hand market plenty of affordable mirrorless camera compatible with those cheap manual lenses... which is not true with dslr. i own both dslr & mirrorless and i enjoy playing with both, but for experimenting, i think mirrorless are better nowadays... appart from this, as you play with manual lenses, focus peaking is more important than modern AF.
I have used the D300 as my first ever camera but at this point I wont recommend it anymore. Its missing features that a new photographer can help a lot.
I like the idea of spending most of the budget on the lenses but I would get a more expensive body.
Canon 760D €269
Canon 17-85mm IS USM €61
Canon 50mm 1.8 STM €77
I currently own a d7200, A7 iii and 6D
I understand you point of view, and as I said in the video, it's not meant to be a kit for absolutely everyone. This is a kit made for someone that wants to get started shooting action, sports, wildlife, photojournalism, that want a dependable camera body and lenses.
If you wanted to get a kit under 500 bucks, I'm sure you could fit a Canon M50 with a kit lens and it would be better for an absolute beginner that don't know what they want to do.
This wasn't really my goal here.
Also, I wanted to include more glass, as this would make the difference for me, I understand if you'd prefer to get less lenses but a more advanced (or newer) camera body.