This video shows exactly why it always bothers me when Clemens shut down people's attempts at finding new stuff in the game when they're new, because "anything you can think we already thought many years ago" as he puts it. As someone who has been part of a speedrunning community for 13 years and already found a few hundred new things in the game, and also being a TASer, I always try to stay humble because I've seen people come out of nowhere with a new discovery way too many times, even though their experience with the game was very low at the time. Bottom line is, don't think you're above anyone else just because you got more experience and skill at anything, good new ideas can come from anywhere and no one is omniscient so there's always things to be found that no one thought about yet.
It's rather narcissistic for someone to shutdown other people's attempts at finding new stuff to speedrun a level in GoldenEye, because you aren't the founder of glitch hunting, nor is it off limits. If people want to try new tech at glitches they can, and nobody can have a say in that.
I had one of these myself, though not in a speedrunning context. I spent about 2 years playing Mario Sunshine on the GC and found several of the big glitches and then showed them to my friends. 10 years later I picked up a GC from a pawn shop and played Mario Sunshine again. After several months of playing it again, one of my friends came over and we played it together. We started a new save and he used one of the glitches I had shown him a decade earlier that I had completely forgotten about. When I said something like "nice skip. I will have to remember that" he looked at me and said "you showed me it 10 years ago" and laughed.
9 KF7 shots is sufficient for the decoder door lure. 18 just creates more lag and alerts more guards. I made a forum post about this a while back. There is a specific table in that lab that works as the maximum distance required to alert him with the 9 so it's not even necessary to run to the far wall.
@@GamerFolklore It's on the 'Ask any GE question...' thread, first post was January 14, 2021, 11:15:31 am 👍 It continues in the 'Post/Discuss New Strata...' thread but I'm sure you'll find it by finding my profile.
Was going to comment that this idea/lore is under used on facility especially on RTA runs so I'm glad you mentioned facility directly IDPRC - Would watch speed runners C left the hallway leading up to the optimal Doak location where as you can get BOTH locations with C right in the hallway instead going into this room with the 9 KF7 shots - Im glad Ryan was able to bring this up in which its prudent to use this strat on RTA runs on facility - Always believed this alternate strat could be just as fast as the optimal Doak decorder location mainline non RTA runs - Its clear RW is warming up to the streets SA under realized Val strafe for his upcoming video....I can just feel it in the air #staytuned #staytrue
this reminds me of when sexyzora19 found a trick in the months after LoZ: Twilight Princess' release. It was a clip that let you get into the room with the cannon that shoots you to the City in the Sky. Seemed to get glossed over and forgotten as people were discovering huge stuff basically every day (also I think they deleted their youtube channel which didn't help). Way later on, someone (Paraxade?) remembered the trick and used it to skip 2 dungeons iirc. Like an hour of time saved by a trick that was known basically since the beginning, but never implemented into the route
If it was such an obvious time save, why wasn't added into the route? I mean depending on the category, we could see SUB-HOUR runs. I know for a fact that it wouldnt be possible in the 100% category as you would be skipping potentially A CRAP TON of required items for 100% the game.
I had made some discoveries in contra hard corps years ago. Did runs and submitted times. The speedrun mods accused me of cheating or using hacked roms(it was literally the gensis model 2 and cart). Subsequently I was banned from that sr community. However guess what that mod did? Why he used the tech that I discovered and copied my route and got the world record. My time was still 5 seconds faster but hey I was banned from the community anyways. So thats why runners wont try to make their own routes or try new tech out. From what I understand, after mamy years, that mod was banned himself for shadey practices and hostility towards new runners. But I guess I am still banned. I dont know and moved onto other games to speedrun anyway.
Simpsons hit and run, wasp cameras have a very specific animation cycle, and you can only kill them with a car hit at a certain few frames, so you just have to go for it and pray... until they rather recently discovered they are all globally timed, and, from the moment you load your save, this timer doesn't change by anything, pausing, loading, whatever, so they were able to create a gif you can sync up to the game load and always know when to hit each wasp. No one had ever considered the wasps could be on a global timer before this.
I only ever played multiplayer with friends (many years ago). Much like @Kapin, watching Goose's videos the past few years has me itching to pick this up and post some personal bests!
That’s why it needs to be remade. I know there are issues with the copyright which makes this unlikely to ever happen, but I would love to get to try old games like Goldeneye on a modern console to see what all the fuss is about.
might as well comment about something similar to these. In MKDS, at the end of Mario Circuit, theres a couple of purple blocks, and near those blocks is a tiny slope in the grass. You can use this slope to hop over those blocks and save ~1 sec per lap. This is one of the simplest shortcuts in the game and can be done by anyone in like 5 minutes, yet it took nearly 9 years to be found (game came out on November 14 2005, and this was discovered on April 10 2014)
A lot of players don't exactly play the game when speedrunning, they are just trying to complete a specific set of moves they memorized as fast as possible. Most of the time when a new time save is found the people who found it are not the ones who can utilize it for a record. Most time spent speedrunning is done resetting until you get a good run with few mistakes.
@@stichomythiacs In Perfect Dark they use their screen names, in the Goldeneye they use their real initials. Hence, PerfectAce/Rayan Isran is PA in PD and RI in GE
Speedrunners always overlook noobie comments about their game, and I get it, but sometimes a fresh pair of eyes at a specific moment can find some cool solid strats
That's usually what it takes to discover new strats. Veteran runners rarely innovate new strats themselves because they all become metaslaves and don't even consider radical new approaches to saving time. They just run the same routes over and over and over again until the run is so optimised that the most anyone can do is go a few hundredths of a second faster. Usually it takes somebody completely new to the scene to discover radical timesaves on their own and then the community never takes them seriously unless hard video evidence is provided or until somebody more notable uses it and goes "uhh, so that new strat that weird new guy said would save like 5 seconds and we all laughed at? Turns out he was right." Lookdown in Goldeneye being the best example of that happening off the top of my head.
I made a lot of discoveries for Mark of the Ninja Any% and it was pretty much all just fucking around like a chimp in a cage until something interesting happened. I wouldn't really call people who discover speedrun tech geniuses (although some certainly are), just incredibly curious people that often get so many layers deep on various parts of the game that they become blind to the obvious.
Remembering or rediscovering old strategies is definitely about as important as finding completely new ones these days. Usually in a 20 year old, optimized speed game, there will run out of tons of new strategies to find. However, just to uncover things others have thought of or tried, combined with new knowledge, leads to solid timesaves and a greater understanding of the game.
Hell yeah, I can't remember the number of times I combined old strats with new movement and ended up with a faster overall strat. This is one of the most overlooked things for sure.
@@Sterlin18 the difference is you were in 1998 and you don't even have a proper memory of what you even did and no proper documenting of it at the time either, sterling.
Love that intro. Sometimes it doesn't keep happening lmao perfect edit: Really appreciate the SHOWN: captions you show with the footage. That extra bit of context makes the whole story easier to follow.
Been a fan for over 6 years man, best goldeneye/speedrun content on youtube. Wish I could go back to 2001 when me and my brother battled each other for best times
The current Super Metroid any% WR route was primarily developed from a long-obsoleted TAS deemed unviable for RTA runs at the time of its release. By the time the RTA run was unveiled, most of the community had no knowledge of the existence of the obsoleted TAS or its potential to be adapted to RTA strats, simply because the top runners were so entrenched in the existing RTA route, so certain that the execution required for the old TAS route was too difficult to be consistently performed by humans, that most had not bothered to question whether it was truly the route with the most potential for optimization.
Marble Zone Act 3's IL in Sonic 1. 0:27 was a maxed IL even with the faster TAS boss, as you had to wait for a very slow platform cycle before performing a "zip" left. Only last year, after about 8 years, was a zip right used, allowing you to fall under the slow platform and zip left underneath it. Lowered the IL to 0:26 with the possibility of a 0:25 with a perfect level and TAS boss.
It's true that sometimes you just focus on something or some strategies and you, as speedrunner, are not able to think to an alternative. Plus, not everyone is able to think out of the box (Boss and Henrik being two best examples of that). Btw, on my side, I suggested to change the alarms order in Dam SA, but I think it became obsolete before people could try it, simply because someone started shooting the 2nd and 3rd alarms from outside, not to mention that weird standing-over-a-guard stuff
In Dam00 I think 1 second could be saved from the time if runners can chunk the covert modem from a distance instead of butting up against the box. Like Wouter Jansen’s Dam00 2:05 run from back in 2001. Everyone has since adopted for consistency and they butt up against the box instead, even Wouters later runs he chose to abandon the distant modem throw. It’s difficult to pull off consistently but I do believe you can save time, thoughts?
Yeah its brought up a lot on our forums however just very rare to be done optimally/consistently to be used as a mainline strat - If you're someone like MR who has the WR it may be prudent for him to maybe incorporatethe throw in hopes of lowering 154 -
Golden Eye speedrunning amazes me! I had a hard enough time getting the cheat activated on Facility. Invincibility? All guns? I can't remember but dang i was hard. Mad props to you all and thanks for the awesome vid!
Great video; I'm flabbergasted that reverse hostages was never investigated before now -- never would have guessed. BTW, with Mario Party Superstars coming out soon, it would be interesting to see a video about it from a speedrunning / mini-game high scores perspective -- I enjoyed your previous MP videos...
In Halo, two levels AOTCR and 2B use the same map. Speedrunners used to jump through a window in one room going one way in AOTCR, but for some reason didn’t go through the same window in the way back in 2B. Took years to start doing it.
In the early days of Fallout 4, runners would have to take the first mission from Garvey to help out settlers. So you had to go the settlement, then clear out the raider hideout, back to the settlement, then back to Garvey. Until someone realized you could just kill the settler NPC you're supposed to talk to. You fail the quest but it allows you to progress just the same. Saved about 2 minutes.
Clipboard lure, Far Ourumov and the Decoder Door Lure are things I can clearly remember doing as a kid just playing through goldeneye. Similarly I also remember a few of my playthroughs of Aztec having the glass door open and unlocked on the few completes I did have on that level. What it feels like to me is that there might be benefit from looking at suboptimal/normal plays through the goldeneye levels for skips and other janky wierdness that can be exploited and refined to new techniques and reroutes much like looking through historical speedruns can bring light to old strats that can be reapplied to modern routes. I also remember a lot of the janky stuff happened when I was trying to unlock the cheats and obviously trying to beat the set times.
On GEXBLA, using the default dpad to move produces less speed than using the left stick. It seems to be a totally different mechanic. The game usually checks how many frames Bond has been moving forward before applying the max speed bonus. We only just connected those dots and realized that using left stick forward and dpad forward simultaneously double-counts these frames and therefore halves the amount of time needed to reach max speed, saving 0.17s every time speed must be gained. We use remapping to make this automatic so there's no need to tape down the dpad.
I expect this may be because a lot of runners don't necessarily know all of the tricks that were ever discovered for their game but have just learned the current, most-optimal, route.
On Bunker Agent XBLA, it didn't occur to me that hitting the alarm early would open the glass door. Plus I didn't experiment to see if the box boost in the first hallway was viable with our faster fire rate. With these two innovations, 0:12 was made possible on both MKB and controller.
With the door decoder strat perhaps there is a faster way to lure the guard with another spot to shoot or even just less far into the scientist room so you could save a second over what is used in the video. It would take a long time to figure out where the best setup is but may be worth it for a 2 or 3 second untied
I know I’ve mentioned this on your twitter but has the community ever looked at the speed gained from grabbed objects on perfect dark and tried to implement it in speed runs. if you grab and ungrab objects like the box bomb and Elvis’s gurney on the Area 51 levels you gain speed
Love the passion and the videos, glad this was recommended to me! Goose, it would be a dream come true for an esteemed Goldeneye player like yourself to let me know what you think of my humble Top 10 Hardest Missions on Goldeneye, and there’s also a full game review but I think it would bore you since it’s 55 min long. Cradle made a great ost for the intro montage though!
I must've missed something on the mainframe stuck. It went from "not being the fastest but more consistent" to helping hit 1:34? Could someone explain what changed in how it was used? **Edit: figured it out. Forced-stuck strat was more consistent, relying on random stuck was faster. Remembering to just rely on random stuck was what helped the record.
Goose have you ever done a video explaining why Henrik times differently than Ace on train back in the day? I think it may have been in game time 1:04 or 1:03 or something but was different in real world time. I tried to find a video on it but couldn’t.
That joke about "you can press R during this section to save 20 seconds" is not far off from a time save discovered in the ScummVM DOS version of Maniac Mansion. Turns out you can advance through the unskippable cutscene at the end just by pressing the period key. This was only discovered two years ago.
seems like in the very last clip where he stops at the top of the stairs to destroy the alarm then opens the door, he can start the door opening first then destroy the alarm.
You have cute obsession with the field you are in, like a kid with dinosaurs, it makes your videos more special and warmer and not as academic and hard. Being juvenile will get anyone in trouble and it is something you have to keep checks on oneself as an adult and isn't an excuse for anything but it is something others treasure in those who have it. 👍
I had to rewatch frigate in disbelief. Unloading and the implications on pathing is far from a foreign concept to anyone speedrunning the level. Of course a reverse route is roughly equal distance in any situation. Not only can't I believe this strategy wasn't thought of sooner, I can't even believe I didn't think of it myself in casual curiosity. 🤯
The same thing happened in one of the games I run, Runaway Rainbow (GBA). For context, in the first three chapters, you need to collect a certain item to progress through the game. For the longest time, we manually pick it up by approaching the item itself. lmagine our surprise when I discovered through submission notes for a TAS of the game, that you can actually press A far away from the item and still pick it up. The weird thing? We already have that strats for the NPCs. I don't want to explain it in detail, you can watch my Any% WR run here (th-cam.com/video/bljW3KdBG_M/w-d-xo.html) and head to 1:39 of that run to see and know the strats I'm alluded to. Nevertheless, you can imagine the bruh moment between me and Alec, another runner of the game when we found out about it.
Goose after Karl Jobst recent video I would love for you to talk about your side of things & possibly the reason that you aren't friends anymore considering how much you helped each other.
@@Kitcomedy Well Karl stated in today's video that they aren't friends and haven't spoken for 2 years. Other people have also mentioned there was some friction. Hence why I'm asking Goose for his opinion on it.
@@benrush7090 Yeah but he said they were not on bad terms. And didn't Karl's video teach you to not take what other people say as fact? That's what the whole video was about! Goose talked about that shit ages ago, the community forgave him and left the past behind for good, no need to dig it up again imo
@@bitcoinfandom dig it up lol? Pretty sure if Karl brought it up it's slightly relevant to the conversation. I'm not talking about the stuff Goose did, I'm asking why he and Karl aren't on good terms if in fact that is the case. If I'm asking questions then I'm not taking it as fact am I? Nothing wrong with conversation mate, too many people are sheltered from normal discussion points.
You can almost see the break in the human thought process with these things..guard randomly gets stuck, they find a way to consitantly get him stuck, thats a good result..overwriting the thought that, he does infact get stuck by himself sometimes. Its like the new information overwrites the old and makes you, not forget it, but disregard it before you spend energy processing it again. its like the brain decides that information has been dealt with..compartmentalize it and dont think of it again.
that R-lean warp thingy doesn't get you through the gates on dam does it? not for speed of course but that was the 1 level you couldn't beat without shooting if I remember.
0:01: 0:08: I Scream in abject horror and absolute terror my life, a lie. My mind torn asunder. My very soul is unrecognizable. This ice-cold betrayal is deeper than the Mariana Trench, and more treacherous than Judas Iscariot, I will never be able to trust or love again.
in super mario odyssey speedrunning, over a year after the game came out, speedrunners realized bowser can run in the 2d sections, its a part that Nintendo put in on purpose and its just done by pressing b to run lol
I would argue that consistency shouldn't be so important in speedrunning. Speed should be the most important thing and consistency be damned. Reset/restart as often as you need and always go for all the fastest tricks.
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This video shows exactly why it always bothers me when Clemens shut down people's attempts at finding new stuff in the game when they're new, because "anything you can think we already thought many years ago" as he puts it. As someone who has been part of a speedrunning community for 13 years and already found a few hundred new things in the game, and also being a TASer, I always try to stay humble because I've seen people come out of nowhere with a new discovery way too many times, even though their experience with the game was very low at the time.
Bottom line is, don't think you're above anyone else just because you got more experience and skill at anything, good new ideas can come from anywhere and no one is omniscient so there's always things to be found that no one thought about yet.
It's rather narcissistic for someone to shutdown other people's attempts at finding new stuff to speedrun a level in GoldenEye, because you aren't the founder of glitch hunting, nor is it off limits. If people want to try new tech at glitches they can, and nobody can have a say in that.
I had one of these myself, though not in a speedrunning context.
I spent about 2 years playing Mario Sunshine on the GC and found several of the big glitches and then showed them to my friends.
10 years later I picked up a GC from a pawn shop and played Mario Sunshine again. After several months of playing it again, one of my friends came over and we played it together.
We started a new save and he used one of the glitches I had shown him a decade earlier that I had completely forgotten about. When I said something like "nice skip. I will have to remember that" he looked at me and said "you showed me it 10 years ago" and laughed.
17 minutes? Gotta say, today was a good day.
Hey bro, love your videos.
Today i didnt even have to use my AK
This was an awesome video and subject. It's amazing to me, people today STILL don't start in 2nd gear.
9 KF7 shots is sufficient for the decoder door lure. 18 just creates more lag and alerts more guards. I made a forum post about this a while back. There is a specific table in that lab that works as the maximum distance required to alert him with the 9 so it's not even necessary to run to the far wall.
@@GamerFolklore I'm IDPTheory on the forum. I even posted some pics on there of the location I describe. Hope it proves helpful.
@@GamerFolklore It's on the 'Ask any GE question...' thread, first post was January 14, 2021, 11:15:31 am 👍
It continues in the 'Post/Discuss New Strata...' thread but I'm sure you'll find it by finding my profile.
*salutes*
Was going to comment that this idea/lore is under used on facility especially on RTA runs so I'm glad you mentioned facility directly IDPRC - Would watch speed runners C left the hallway leading up to the optimal Doak location where as you can get BOTH locations with C right in the hallway instead going into this room with the 9 KF7 shots - Im glad Ryan was able to bring this up in which its prudent to use this strat on RTA runs on facility - Always believed this alternate strat could be just as fast as the optimal Doak decorder location mainline non RTA runs - Its clear RW is warming up to the streets SA under realized Val strafe for his upcoming video....I can just feel it in the air #staytuned #staytrue
this reminds me of when sexyzora19 found a trick in the months after LoZ: Twilight Princess' release. It was a clip that let you get into the room with the cannon that shoots you to the City in the Sky. Seemed to get glossed over and forgotten as people were discovering huge stuff basically every day (also I think they deleted their youtube channel which didn't help). Way later on, someone (Paraxade?) remembered the trick and used it to skip 2 dungeons iirc. Like an hour of time saved by a trick that was known basically since the beginning, but never implemented into the route
If it was such an obvious time save, why wasn't added into the route? I mean depending on the category, we could see SUB-HOUR runs. I know for a fact that it wouldnt be possible in the 100% category as you would be skipping potentially A CRAP TON of required items for 100% the game.
I had made some discoveries in contra hard corps years ago. Did runs and submitted times. The speedrun mods accused me of cheating or using hacked roms(it was literally the gensis model 2 and cart). Subsequently I was banned from that sr community. However guess what that mod did? Why he used the tech that I discovered and copied my route and got the world record. My time was still 5 seconds faster but hey I was banned from the community anyways. So thats why runners wont try to make their own routes or try new tech out. From what I understand, after mamy years, that mod was banned himself for shadey practices and hostility towards new runners. But I guess I am still banned. I dont know and moved onto other games to speedrun anyway.
And here I thought I was the only one that remembered SexyZora19. She was the undisputed master of glitch hunting in Twilight Princess IMO.
Simpsons hit and run, wasp cameras have a very specific animation cycle, and you can only kill them with a car hit at a certain few frames, so you just have to go for it and pray... until they rather recently discovered they are all globally timed, and, from the moment you load your save, this timer doesn't change by anything, pausing, loading, whatever, so they were able to create a gif you can sync up to the game load and always know when to hit each wasp. No one had ever considered the wasps could be on a global timer before this.
I've been watching these videos for two years now and still have never played Goldeneye for myself. Anyone else here never actually played the game?
These videos are actually what inspired me to play it! It's been a blast so far, would recommend :D
I only ever played multiplayer with friends (many years ago). Much like @Kapin, watching Goose's videos the past few years has me itching to pick this up and post some personal bests!
Nope. I played Goldeneye 64 and I still do (I'm 30 though) but that seems crazy to have never played it
That’s why it needs to be remade. I know there are issues with the copyright which makes this unlikely to ever happen, but I would love to get to try old games like Goldeneye on a modern console to see what all the fuss is about.
I’ve been playing it basically since the day it was released. XD
I just found out goose was BASED. This channel just got so much better.
might as well comment about something similar to these. In MKDS, at the end of Mario Circuit, theres a couple of purple blocks, and near those blocks is a tiny slope in the grass. You can use this slope to hop over those blocks and save ~1 sec per lap. This is one of the simplest shortcuts in the game and can be done by anyone in like 5 minutes, yet it took nearly 9 years to be found (game came out on November 14 2005, and this was discovered on April 10 2014)
A lot of players don't exactly play the game when speedrunning, they are just trying to complete a specific set of moves they memorized as fast as possible. Most of the time when a new time save is found the people who found it are not the ones who can utilize it for a record. Most time spent speedrunning is done resetting until you get a good run with few mistakes.
True Faith is very skilled for a new runner
You missed the New Order joke opportunity!
Why is he called that now? Isn't it David Clemens? I don't follow The Elite closely.
@@stichomythiacs In Perfect Dark they use their screen names, in the Goldeneye they use their real initials. Hence, PerfectAce/Rayan Isran is PA in PD and RI in GE
@@ApathyBM sure, but Goose is talking about Goldeneye. Why has Goose been calling him True Faith recently?
Speedrunners always overlook noobie comments about their game, and I get it, but sometimes a fresh pair of eyes at a specific moment can find some cool solid strats
That's usually what it takes to discover new strats. Veteran runners rarely innovate new strats themselves because they all become metaslaves and don't even consider radical new approaches to saving time. They just run the same routes over and over and over again until the run is so optimised that the most anyone can do is go a few hundredths of a second faster. Usually it takes somebody completely new to the scene to discover radical timesaves on their own and then the community never takes them seriously unless hard video evidence is provided or until somebody more notable uses it and goes "uhh, so that new strat that weird new guy said would save like 5 seconds and we all laughed at? Turns out he was right."
Lookdown in Goldeneye being the best example of that happening off the top of my head.
Keep up the good work goose. You have friends in ireland!!
I made a lot of discoveries for Mark of the Ninja Any% and it was pretty much all just fucking around like a chimp in a cage until something interesting happened. I wouldn't really call people who discover speedrun tech geniuses (although some certainly are), just incredibly curious people that often get so many layers deep on various parts of the game that they become blind to the obvious.
I was in a bad day
But that intro quote made it bettet
You didn't have Peach say "Here we go"... it was missed.
Love the sound effects during the transitions, the cicadas, and the amazing commentary. Fun video, dude.
Always happy to see a video from goose!
Remembering or rediscovering old strategies is definitely about as important as finding completely new ones these days. Usually in a 20 year old, optimized speed game, there will run out of tons of new strategies to find. However, just to uncover things others have thought of or tried, combined with new knowledge, leads to solid timesaves and a greater understanding of the game.
the absolute madman legend himself
Hell yeah, I can't remember the number of times I combined old strats with new movement and ended up with a faster overall strat. This is one of the most overlooked things for sure.
Thats weird as you totally just roasted me on a streets SA mainline older strat in the forums - Sounds pretty contradicting
@@Sterlin18 the difference is you were in 1998 and you don't even have a proper memory of what you even did and no proper documenting of it at the time either, sterling.
"Time to leave Dr. Doak"
*Proceeds to fire a rifle blindly at the wall*
Love that intro. Sometimes it doesn't keep happening lmao perfect
edit: Really appreciate the SHOWN: captions you show with the footage. That extra bit of context makes the whole story easier to follow.
Love your content goose. Thanks for what you do
0:00 Sometimes it doesn't always keep happening XD that one made me laugh out loud.
yoooo, that tracker bug transition in the intro was smooth
Been a fan for over 6 years man, best goldeneye/speedrun content on youtube.
Wish I could go back to 2001 when me and my brother battled each other for best times
The current Super Metroid any% WR route was primarily developed from a long-obsoleted TAS deemed unviable for RTA runs at the time of its release. By the time the RTA run was unveiled, most of the community had no knowledge of the existence of the obsoleted TAS or its potential to be adapted to RTA strats, simply because the top runners were so entrenched in the existing RTA route, so certain that the execution required for the old TAS route was too difficult to be consistently performed by humans, that most had not bothered to question whether it was truly the route with the most potential for optimization.
Marble Zone Act 3's IL in Sonic 1. 0:27 was a maxed IL even with the faster TAS boss, as you had to wait for a very slow platform cycle before performing a "zip" left. Only last year, after about 8 years, was a zip right used, allowing you to fall under the slow platform and zip left underneath it. Lowered the IL to 0:26 with the possibility of a 0:25 with a perfect level and TAS boss.
Me, seeing the face of the guard that gets stuck: *"Sam Hyde strikes again..."*
Lol I thought the same thing
you are a saint for chaptoring the Ad for easy skipping, true legend.
It's true that sometimes you just focus on something or some strategies and you, as speedrunner, are not able to think to an alternative. Plus, not everyone is able to think out of the box (Boss and Henrik being two best examples of that).
Btw, on my side, I suggested to change the alarms order in Dam SA, but I think it became obsolete before people could try it, simply because someone started shooting the 2nd and 3rd alarms from outside, not to mention that weird standing-over-a-guard stuff
Ad blocker off for you my friend. Great video!
The goose was loose on this vid
This was a fun video, never realized how old the Ouro strat was haha. Also congrats on 100k subs Goose!
In Dam00 I think 1 second could be saved from the time if runners can chunk the covert modem from a distance instead of butting up against the box. Like Wouter Jansen’s Dam00 2:05 run from back in 2001. Everyone has since adopted for consistency and they butt up against the box instead, even Wouters later runs he chose to abandon the distant modem throw.
It’s difficult to pull off consistently but I do believe you can save time, thoughts?
Yeah its brought up a lot on our forums however just very rare to be done optimally/consistently to be used as a mainline strat - If you're someone like MR who has the WR it may be prudent for him to maybe incorporatethe throw in hopes of lowering 154 -
Golden Eye speedrunning amazes me! I had a hard enough time getting the cheat activated on Facility. Invincibility? All guns? I can't remember but dang i was hard. Mad props to you all and thanks for the awesome vid!
Great video; I'm flabbergasted that reverse hostages was never investigated before now -- never would have guessed. BTW, with Mario Party Superstars coming out soon, it would be interesting to see a video about it from a speedrunning / mini-game high scores perspective -- I enjoyed your previous MP videos...
Boa garoto, tá chegando no 100 mil zão! Parabéns. Conteúdo foda!
In Halo, two levels AOTCR and 2B use the same map. Speedrunners used to jump through a window in one room going one way in AOTCR, but for some reason didn’t go through the same window in the way back in 2B. Took years to start doing it.
What a great idea for a video. Thanks Goose, very entertaining :)
In the early days of Fallout 4, runners would have to take the first mission from Garvey to help out settlers. So you had to go the settlement, then clear out the raider hideout, back to the settlement, then back to Garvey. Until someone realized you could just kill the settler NPC you're supposed to talk to. You fail the quest but it allows you to progress just the same. Saved about 2 minutes.
Have never speedrun anything in my life, but still love these videos
"My friends, sometimes, believe it or not, it doesn't keep happening" won't even lie that caught me off guard alot lol.
Any thoughts on Nintendo bringing N64 games to Nintendo switch online? Could be some cool online co op runs.
Speedrunners forgetting so many things you’d think D&D wrote this script!
Clipboard lure, Far Ourumov and the Decoder Door Lure are things I can clearly remember doing as a kid just playing through goldeneye. Similarly I also remember a few of my playthroughs of Aztec having the glass door open and unlocked on the few completes I did have on that level. What it feels like to me is that there might be benefit from looking at suboptimal/normal plays through the goldeneye levels for skips and other janky wierdness that can be exploited and refined to new techniques and reroutes much like looking through historical speedruns can bring light to old strats that can be reapplied to modern routes. I also remember a lot of the janky stuff happened when I was trying to unlock the cheats and obviously trying to beat the set times.
Thank you for the upload today.
GOOSE YES!!!!! Many thanks for the upload and much love
love the videos, always a pleasure to watch
Love all this Goldeneye advancement lately!
Hell yeah Goose! Love your Goldeneye content!
“Hold on ... we’re smarter than this.”
Obi Wan [Caught% Speed Run]
On GEXBLA, using the default dpad to move produces less speed than using the left stick. It seems to be a totally different mechanic. The game usually checks how many frames Bond has been moving forward before applying the max speed bonus. We only just connected those dots and realized that using left stick forward and dpad forward simultaneously double-counts these frames and therefore halves the amount of time needed to reach max speed, saving 0.17s every time speed must be gained. We use remapping to make this automatic so there's no need to tape down the dpad.
I expect this may be because a lot of runners don't necessarily know all of the tricks that were ever discovered for their game but have just learned the current, most-optimal, route.
Congrats on 100k, Goose!
On Bunker Agent XBLA, it didn't occur to me that hitting the alarm early would open the glass door. Plus I didn't experiment to see if the box boost in the first hallway was viable with our faster fire rate. With these two innovations, 0:12 was made possible on both MKB and controller.
What does "caked" mean? Is it just a really good run or is it a perfect run?
Caked means achieved easily, or within a small amount of time, relative to the record
Easy as cake - expression. Same thing as piece of cake
It’s like doing something easily and saying “piece of cake”
With the door decoder strat perhaps there is a faster way to lure the guard with another spot to shoot or even just less far into the scientist room so you could save a second over what is used in the video. It would take a long time to figure out where the best setup is but may be worth it for a 2 or 3 second untied
you predicting the fac door lure is insane
I know I’ve mentioned this on your twitter but has the community ever looked at the speed gained from grabbed objects on perfect dark and tried to implement it in speed runs. if you grab and ungrab objects like the box bomb and Elvis’s gurney on the Area 51 levels you gain speed
Congrats on 100k sir!
Awesome stuff Goose, stay true!
Love your channel
Love the passion and the videos, glad this was recommended to me!
Goose, it would be a dream come true for an esteemed Goldeneye player like yourself to let me know what you think of my humble Top 10 Hardest Missions on Goldeneye, and there’s also a full game review but I think it would bore you since it’s 55 min long. Cradle made a great ost for the intro montage though!
I love this channel !
Love the videos as always.
1:05 Smooooth
Thanks for the video 😀
Congrats on the recognition on Karls new video
lol
I must've missed something on the mainframe stuck. It went from "not being the fastest but more consistent" to helping hit 1:34? Could someone explain what changed in how it was used?
**Edit: figured it out. Forced-stuck strat was more consistent, relying on random stuck was faster. Remembering to just rely on random stuck was what helped the record.
My friends.
the red border you keep putting on your videos gives the illusion the video might have been watched already, just letting you know.
on the thumbnail that is
Goose have you ever done a video explaining why Henrik times differently than Ace on train back in the day? I think it may have been in game time 1:04 or 1:03 or something but was different in real world time. I tried to find a video on it but couldn’t.
Here we go
What an absolute legend.
100k? Congrats!
That joke about "you can press R during this section to save 20 seconds" is not far off from a time save discovered in the ScummVM DOS version of Maniac Mansion. Turns out you can advance through the unskippable cutscene at the end just by pressing the period key. This was only discovered two years ago.
seems like in the very last clip where he stops at the top of the stairs to destroy the alarm then opens the door, he can start the door opening first then destroy the alarm.
You have cute obsession with the field you are in, like a kid with dinosaurs, it makes your videos more special and warmer and not as academic and hard. Being juvenile will get anyone in trouble and it is something you have to keep checks on oneself as an adult and isn't an excuse for anything but it is something others treasure in those who have it. 👍
i think the trevelyan grenade drop on cradle should have been included!
Could the Cradle grenade console strat be included in this list?
I had to rewatch frigate in disbelief. Unloading and the implications on pathing is far from a foreign concept to anyone speedrunning the level. Of course a reverse route is roughly equal distance in any situation. Not only can't I believe this strategy wasn't thought of sooner, I can't even believe I didn't think of it myself in casual curiosity. 🤯
Liked it even before i started the video.
The same thing happened in one of the games I run, Runaway Rainbow (GBA). For context, in the first three chapters, you need to collect a certain item to progress through the game. For the longest time, we manually pick it up by approaching the item itself.
lmagine our surprise when I discovered through submission notes for a TAS of the game, that you can actually press A far away from the item and still pick it up. The weird thing? We already have that strats for the NPCs.
I don't want to explain it in detail, you can watch my Any% WR run here (th-cam.com/video/bljW3KdBG_M/w-d-xo.html) and head to 1:39 of that run to see and know the strats I'm alluded to.
Nevertheless, you can imagine the bruh moment between me and Alec, another runner of the game when we found out about it.
Goose after Karl Jobst recent video I would love for you to talk about your side of things & possibly the reason that you aren't friends anymore considering how much you helped each other.
who said they aren't friends? goose got over his redpill shit im certain they're not on bad terms
@@Kitcomedy Well Karl stated in today's video that they aren't friends and haven't spoken for 2 years.
Other people have also mentioned there was some friction.
Hence why I'm asking Goose for his opinion on it.
@@benrush7090 Yeah but he said they were not on bad terms. And didn't Karl's video teach you to not take what other people say as fact? That's what the whole video was about! Goose talked about that shit ages ago, the community forgave him and left the past behind for good, no need to dig it up again imo
@@bitcoinfandom dig it up lol?
Pretty sure if Karl brought it up it's slightly relevant to the conversation.
I'm not talking about the stuff Goose did, I'm asking why he and Karl aren't on good terms if in fact that is the case.
If I'm asking questions then I'm not taking it as fact am I?
Nothing wrong with conversation mate, too many people are sheltered from normal discussion points.
@@GamerFolklore No worries mate.
I love your speedrunning videos and look forward to more great content.
Thank you for responding.
Ah the guy knew about the R lean before anybody else xD
You can almost see the break in the human thought process with these things..guard randomly gets stuck, they find a way to consitantly get him stuck, thats a good result..overwriting the thought that, he does infact get stuck by himself sometimes. Its like the new information overwrites the old and makes you, not forget it, but disregard it before you spend energy processing it again. its like the brain decides that information has been dealt with..compartmentalize it and dont think of it again.
grats on 100k
Where’s your normal TH-cam channel?! I wanted to rewatch some stuff but can’t find it??
@@GamerFolklore a video about a dude name Darklight or something like that.. I wanted to show my buddy
@@youbluethatone1017 who is darklight93 ....cowen hames... It's here. It's a famn entertaining video for sure
wow nice !! just when i needed to watch something cool
Goose you need to make more vidyos. I like them.
Thought lookdown might have been one of em!
I'm subscribed to GOoose, but why don't I receive notification when he uploads new videos?
Goose content! What a day, my friends.
that R-lean warp thingy doesn't get you through the gates on dam does it? not for speed of course but that was the 1 level you couldn't beat without shooting if I remember.
0:01:
0:08: I Scream in abject horror and absolute terror my life, a lie. My mind torn asunder. My very soul is unrecognizable. This ice-cold betrayal is deeper than the Mariana Trench, and more treacherous than Judas Iscariot, I will never be able to trust or love again.
My friends I love the way he says that
INSANEEEEE!!
in super mario odyssey speedrunning, over a year after the game came out, speedrunners realized bowser can run in the 2d sections, its a part that Nintendo put in on purpose and its just done by pressing b to run lol
@@GamerFolklore lmao yeah
I would argue that consistency shouldn't be so important in speedrunning. Speed should be the most important thing and consistency be damned. Reset/restart as often as you need and always go for all the fastest tricks.