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Kylo Ren VS Rey on the DEATH STAR | Lightsaber Duel Analysis
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 มิ.ย. 2020
- Welcome to another lightsaber duel analysis. Today I want to discuss Kylo Ren vs Rey on the wreckage of The Death Star from The Rise Of Skywalker.
The duel itself is VERY fun to watch. I also found it interesting how this duel basically ends up in a stalemate which is why I think the importance of this duel isn't who wins, but what it does to help both characters grow and face their final challenge in the trilogy. Enjoy!
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Hello all! Enjoy todays video breaking down my thoughts on Kylo Ren vs Rey on the Death Star.
This duel is absolutely a spectacle but its also a strange duel because of how it ends (this isn't a bad thing). The novelty in this duel was refreshing and some of the callbacks also made me an extremely happy Star Wars fan! While the movie itself is far from perfect, the duels were not part of my issues.
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Dude I love that your outro music was avitars love.
@@YanTheGoat hell yea! I made that beat after I watched the entire series.
Great video 👍 I hope you'll consider making an analysis of Ben Solo vs the Knights of Ren. I know there's not much to work with, but the novel adds some depth to it.
I love your analysis but I would still say Rey lost. She was unbalanced and would of been killed if Kylo followed thru imo.
You deserve way more love
Also when their blades lock the second time, it looks like Kylo is just letting her and admiring her anger
I like how kylo is calm and Rey is angry is perfect Rey is a palpatine angry and kylo Is a skywalker calm
Spidey’s Gaming skywalkers were never calm. anakin was explosive. luke was usually calm until the end of the battle in rotj. definitely not calm.
I think he means the Jedi side of the skywalkers while palpatine isn’t a Jedi but a sith
@@fillintheblank1716 E???
Kylo is a Solo
@@cabbageboi6365 he did everything solo
Can we just all appreciate how great Daisy Ridley is at sounding angry? At times she sounds downright rabid. Luke's struggle with the dark was great, but Rey's was more visually represented.
Yeah at so many points I was thinking she would go to the dark side tbh
Poe Dameron her scream for chewie in that scene can send chills up my spine even when I know it’s coming. Incredible acting skills!
She and Adam are one of the best actors Star Wars has ever seen. Change my mind
Yes! I really felt it in this fight
I honestly believe every moment she groans is actually part of her surviving routine in Jakku.
Two other parallels in this duel:
The way Kylo beats down Rey at the end of the duel is the same way Luke beat down Vader in ROTJ. Kylo acts a lot like ROTJ Luke in this duel by constantly being on the defensive with hopes that his enemy will come to his side until he gets pissed at the end.
Kylo faces the same choice Anakin faces in his duel with Count Dooku in ROTS. I think a part of Kylo is pissed at how Rey beat him in the previous two films, and at the end of this duel he is given a chance for revenge like Anakin had with Dooku. I think it’s purposefully left ambiguous whether he was going to kill Rey before Leia intervened, but ultimately he did not and does the opposite of what Anakin did with Dooku.
@DividingDig914 seethe and cope
This have become my favorite Star Wars channel. I like how this guy analyze everything from an artistic point of view instead of just bashing the sequels and crying about how they "ruined his childhood".
I personally hate the Sequels so much, but I can still find things to enjoy about these films (well, except Last Jedi cause I hated almost everything in that film).
They still suck ass though. 10% good doesnt redeem the 90% of ass
De4thstroke32 🤨
Stormtrooperaim 99 This fight was one of the few things I remember really enjoying about this film. The only thing I was mad about was when they just randomly and magically appear outside.
@@de4thstroke32 The Last Jedi is actually my favorite sequel (and I think it's also the favorite of At At Chat). I think with time it will be remembered as the conceptually richest sequel because of it's themes, directing and how much debate it still generates.
Got to give props to Daisy and Adam for all their hard work in the trilogy. Acting and training for the fights because the weight in every hit is sooo satisfying. Great video man
Agreed!
TROS is an anomaly of a movie. This is why I can't hate it, it's a movie with so many great moments that go beyond just cool set pieces with great visuals that are sadly strung together by a mess of a plot. And this fight is one of them.
This is one of my favourite duels in the whole saga. I love the waves, they perfectly portrait the tumult of emotions that both Rey and Kylo are going through. And I also love its unconventional ending because it shows that a duel doesn't have to end with a choped off arm, but with someone being both mentally and physically healed. This is my favourite series from your channel because it is truly visible how much work you put into these videos and that makes them really high-quality.
One thing i like about this duel was how they incorporated force abilities into their dueling, like how they used the force to stop each other's saber
I thought that was pretty cool. It circumvented the need to simply knock one another off their feet with a Force push. Using the Force to block their lightsabers like that was a sort of active defensive maneuver
I think he was reminding her that they are a dyad in the force meaning equal in strength of the force.
To me this fight is not a duel but more like an angry argument. The choreography as well as the facial expression reflects that emotions of the two characters so much that I can almost hear things like "are you done yet?" "WTF have you done" from their movements. Kudos to everyone who worked on this scene. BTW, I remember Adam Driver also said in an interview that this is his most memorable/favorite scene in the film and said things like it was the most physically demanding scene and satisfying.
Speaking as someone who runs a fencing studio that also teaches stunt fighting, there's a good reason for big swings in choreography. It's safer for the actors, because they're able to see the strikes coming and react appropriately. It also reads better on-screen, for entertainment purposes. Big swings are easier for an audience to see than the subtle bladework and maneuvering of an actual sword fight. Granted, this fight does take telegraphed strikes to an extreme, but there's a good reason for it.
Also, lightsabers in the sequels and OT are meant to resemble longswords, so the wide arcs makes sense. You can't make micro adjustments with a heavier blade, so you rely more on power to overwhelm the opponent.
Appreciate your comment 🤟
@@Tobias_R A longsword isn't very heavy they only weigh around 3lbs. Contrary to popular belief longswords are actually very skillful weapons which require lots of finesse. The fights in the prequels are more similar to longsword duels than the OT and sequel trilogy.
Andrew Holmes yeah, longswords aren’t heavy like axes or anything, but they are still too heavy to make micro adjustments. You’d need exceptional wrist strength to yank the blade out of a swing like you could do with lighter swords.
Knight of Ren Rey is using a lightsaber that was the design of a prequal era lightsaber. They had to slow fights down for the prequels because they were so fast so how does the type of combat just change all of a sudden.
I like how people say Rey never loses a battle but she technically lost this one and it shows that kylo has always been stronger he was just injured and weak on their first battle
When you lose 1 battle in 3 movies and don't even really care, that's still not really great
The books make the excuse that she was tired. Even if rey hasnt won all of her fights, she still has won fights she had no business winning, and has never lost anything of substantial value in the trilogy
@@elijahlee3610 🙄🤦♂️
and he also had orders to bring her to Snoke, alive
@@imperatorscipioafricanus vader had orders to bring luke alive, he still won the duel
Great analysis. This scene is mythical. It's the heart of the movie, the ST, maybe the whole saga.
It drives me nuts how they then decided to reduce Ben to a "battery backup" for Rey, when they could have _crossed their sabers to defeat Palpatine together_ .
I'll never understand *how* they decided otherwise for the end. It feels malicious.
Yeah they should have did that
@A. David In fact JJ's original cut did have a lightsaber duel of kylo ren and rey vs papatine who would have been wielding a double bladed lightsaber. However this didnt make it to the final thing like soo many things that didnt because of none other than Darth Kennedy. But dont worry they are said to release the full JJ cut some time next year.
That feels like a crude way of putting it. I feel like Rey needed to be alone to complete her Jedi journey. Ben sacrificing himself to save Rey is one of the most heroic deeds done in the Star Wars saga it was beautiful
@@athenajaxon2397 What Jedi journey? She was never trained to be a Jedi, she doesn't even want to be a Jedi, and Palpatine means nothing to her, Rey only wanted to do "the right thing".
Ben was the one with a real Jedi journey here: he was trained for it, fell to the Dark side and then came back to the light before it was too late, Palpatine and the impact on his bloodline had meaning for his story arc and he absolutely deserved to have a real redemption arc, starting with him helping Rey, not ending with it.
@@DeadKraken what? She absolutely was trained like a Jedi, Luke showed her that the Jedi made mistakes and she showed him that you can still be a Jedi despite your mistakes. She trained for a year under Leia who trained under Luke how is that not wanting to be a Jedi? She was reluctant in TFA but very clearly wants Luke to train her as a Jedi. Also Palpatine was responsible for killing her parents? She goes because it's the right thing and also as Luke literally puts it to complete her journey as a Jedi
I never catched Mustafar parallel. That's a cool detail
Caught* not catched
I didn’t catch the starkiller base parallel
They weren't good. Thats why you didn't catch them lol
Yea, lava/water parallel is cool.
Say what you want about the movie but I loved how Kylo seemed to just taunt her in the beginning. All that dodging and parrying like it was nothing only made her angrier.
Don't @ me I LOVE THIS DUEL SO MUCH
I will @ you....I love it too
Saaaame!
The choreography is so bland and boring
@@elijahlee3610 No it isn't.
Darth El why the fuck you such a hater
I prefer a duel without music personally and yeah I thought the same way when Rey acted like a Dark side and Ren acting like the Light Side
Nikita The Human Rey should never be able to beat kylo even with proper training as assuming they had the same training even from day 1 kylo ren has more force potential as anakin>palpatine in terms of force potential
THANK YOUUU SO MUCH. Episode 9 really didn't hit right with me, so I'm glad when someone points out some things that make it better than I see it. Please make more videos about the sequels, especially episode 9, I really want to enjoy this movie more than I do right now 😭. Something about Palpatine would be cool, because he just kinda appears out of nowhere. Keep making quality content 👌
Agreed
Honestly the biggest problem for me is palpatines plan kept changing which annoyed me it's much better when a villain has one coherent plan. General Hux being spy makes zero sense he is compromising is job because he wants kylo to lose so dumb. Finn is so side-lined at this point it hurts, I honestly thought he would start a storm trooper revolution with the women and her group that escaped the first order but nope it doesn't happen. I also thought Finn would be Jedi as well but unfortunately Disney sells there movies to china so a black guy can't have an important role. Ian MacDiarmid still nails Palpatine, poe, Finn and Reys trio is fun wish it happened earlier, Kylo rens redemption, Really like mark Hamill as Luke in this film unlike last Jedi, Babu frick is awesome, I felt this was Adam drivers best movie as kylo Ren, loved reys training montage. It's a 6 or 5 out of 10 for me just like revenge of the sith it has it's problems but there's a lot to like as well.
This emotional trueness of this trilogy is what makes it work for me.
Impressive. Most impressive.
i hate this movie, but i really appreciated how Kylo was completely dominant in this fight. instead of Rey slapping her enemies around like they’re nothing, she’s slowly worn down and only gets the upper hand from outside help. Kylo is completely in control and stronger than ever
I was waiting for you to mention Rey also admits her feelings for Ben, "I did want to take your hand, Ben's hand"
I find it a little interesting that the sequel trilogy is the first time we really SEE characters in a duel in which one or more of them actually gets shown on screen being tired out. Kylo Ren in TFA was clearly wounded, exhausted, and bleeding out, which affected his performance, and in TROS Rey is simply outclassed in almost every way, which shows in her hesitation in the latter quarter of the duel as well as her hand being in pain. I imagine that crossing blades with someone twice your size who has been using a lightsaber for years could be a little physically traumatizing haha
Um.
ESB: Luke is visibly tiring from the unending onslaught from Vader.
RoTJ: Vader is clearly tired as Luke overwhelms him.
It's not great in the PT, but the clearest example is Qui-Don having to mediate.
Also the only reason Qui Gon lost to Maul was because of fatigue.
Messenger Mal Absolutely not, Maul's lightsaber form clearly gave him the advantage over Qui-Gon, which is why he used a stun strike to the nose to temporarily throw him off so he could go for the kill
you are the first person to make me respect the sequel trilology at all since the 1st one of the series was released. props.
I also loved the lack of score on this duel, it made it feel much more intimate. I feel that this duel sort of opposed the battle of the heroes duel in revenge of the sith, with the opposite locations and the difference between Anakin's turn to the dark side and Ben's turn to the light, Just as George Lucas said - its like poetry it rhymes. This was a good final duel for the saga. Great video would love to see more of these videos, maybe for the force connection duel scene.
This fight is ridiculously underrated.
in my opinion, kylo stops himself from killing rey not leia. leia reaches out to him which makes him become distracted all together but he stopped himself if you watch the scene. he sees the way rey flinches in fear and in helplessness and realizes he can't do that to her. if he really wanted to kill her, he would of as soon as rey fell to her knees or when he let her regain her composure when her hand was in pain. he had a crap ton of opportunities. i don't think kylo was capable of killing rey especially in that fashion, on the floor-- helpless, knowing that they are force dyads and she is the only person in the whole galaxy that truly understood him and held onto hope in him when even his own uncle and mother gave up on him before realizing they were wrong in doing so. they no doubt had feelings for each other and it's especially apparent in kylo more than rey
👏👏👏👏👏 yes! He stopped himself before. He wasnt going to kill her. People dont understand that. It drives me nuts!!!
@@marianag9202 me too when he stopped you can see the look of his face he understand that he went a little too far with his aggression during their duel plus he almost broke his own promise that the only way to get to execol was with him.
Mishy gosh please don’t bring the romance into this ://
@@blademidnights Reylo is canon. ;)
MP ask that on revenge of the Sith where obi wan speaks with someone the we though he left the planet but then we cut to him somewhere else.
I like the Saber battles in this trilogy. The lightsabers feel like they have some weight to them (Like a long sword)...and things aren't over-choreographed.
The ending battle in the Force Awakens is one of my favourite fights in the whole saga!! This one was really good too!
The other thing I liked about the battle on the destroyed Death Star is that you can see Rey's anger turn to frustration and then eventually to exhaustion. Kylo kept his composure the whole fight and was able to best Rey.
How can you say this doesnt look over choreographed? Reys swings are slow over done and telegraphed, they spin for no reason, they use reverse grips for no reason. Its a mess
@@elijahlee3610 No it isn't🙄🤦♂️
Darth El What about when Anakin and Obi-Wan are standing two feet away from each other spinning their lightsabers like batons without attacking? What was the point of that?
I still remember that being a pretty awesome dual...even though there are moments that feel a little pointless. Why can't you respect the fact that they tried to bring the lightsaber duals back to its roots in this trilogy?
@@leafsfan1728 i never said any fights in star wars were perfect. However the flaws in certain fights, and in this case an entire trilogy are more frequent and consistent than that of its predecessors. Anakin and obi wan flourishing next to each other was retarded however it can be excused for 2 reasons: 1) it was canonically explained in the lore as the 2 faking each other out to look for openings and 2) there were so many other good things about the fight that overshadow that example. For instance the constant guard positions, the realistic grapples, the practical spinning, flourishing and so much more.
Not only is there no canonical explanation for rey and kylos fight being so poor, but its consistently poor. Its consistently slow, they are constantly overswinging, telegraphing, using reverse grips lol. Its terrible. Note i have no problem with the reverse grip, usually in star wars people who utilize it do flourishes to distract you from how impractical it is, but here they go from treating lightsabers like baseball bats to treating them like daggers and knives and you can only sigh and shake your head.
Why cant you respect the fact that they tried...." because i dont condone regression
@@elijahlee3610 🙄
Um it’s actually called the destroyed Death Star AT - AT I cant believe you would get such major lore wrong disliked unsubscribed and a 1 hour rant video incoming
😂😂😂😂
Um it's actually called the destroyed Death Star II (2)
WhiteWolf496 fake fans these days
My favorite part of this entire sequence is when Kylo first picks up the wayfinder and Rey angrily says "give it to me" and you can see him flinch because he's AFRAID of her.
Thank you so much for doing a positive analysis/review of this duel. I see so much negativity and hate towards this duel and the sequel trilogy as a whole from Star Wars TH-camrs and it's refreshing to hear from someone who actually enjoyed it
Great analysis. I always thought that Ren tried to turn/stop Rey because he knew she’d be no match for Palpy alone . And if she ran to Exogal half cocked in a rage (don’t forget she’s mad at him for killing her parents and stealing her childhood ) she was good as dead. Yes he has his own self interest. But he also is in love with her. Reylo forever!
I also like the detail on how even the lightsaber blades are affected against a push of the force. 10:03
I loved this duel, kylo would have actually won I’m so happy about that but sad he died.
I didn’t think of kylo’s moves reminiscing Luke’s from the last Jedi but you’re right they do at least the dodging.
For me he learned a lesson about patience after what following his rage costed him in the last Jedi.
To me kylo is basically playing letting her do whatever she wants because he knows he can deflect it.
Rey is acting like Kylo seeing Luke in the last Jedi just blind rage.
I would call it a reverse duel, normally the one lashing out with rage is Kylo in this it’s Rey, it just proves how similar they are.
A solid 7/10 from me.
This analysis are so good, if I can ask what’s the next duel you want to analyze?
Yeah he did win..
@Rough Collies Rock what you said about kylo realizing how the force seesaws is very similar to Kreia in kotor. Look her up if you dont know about her, very cool character
Rey almost always lashes out in rage too up to her duel with Palps 🤣
@@darth5039 Yeah, I think Kylo won this duel as well. Kylo had Rey on the ground not once but twice after he thoroughly overpowered her and she was was yelling/screaming out in defeat and was so tired and beat that she couldn't even lift her lightsaber in defense anymore..and Kylo could have killed her. Her cheapshotting him after he could have killed her but chose not to, after he stopped fighting, after he was distracted by his dying Mother calling out to him through the force, after he lowered his lightsaber, after he turned away from Rey, after he turned off his lightsaber, and after he intentionally dropped his lightsaber doesn't change the fact that he had already won the duel. I think Kylo also won their first duel in The Rise Of Skywalker as he overpowered her a couple of times in that duel as well and he was calm and she was out of control and fighting with anger and he controlled that entire duel as well..plus, he found out where she was as well. Kylo was 2-0 vs. Rey in The Rise Of Skywalker.
The fight choreography was so trash and over choreographed
I see this more like a "dance" than a duel. Nobody was going for the kill here.
Exactly. It's like an argument.
@@ATATChat I agree. While it looked like Kylo was going for a killing blow at the end, I'd like to think Rey would have rolled out of the way if Kylo had not been distracted (that probably would have caused her to get a wound on her arm)
@@emilysanchez4584 then she really would have been a skywalker
@@eccentricjoe5410 Well in the sequel trilogy, lightsabers haven't cut anyone's limb off. So I'm guessing she would have had a nasty scar like Kylo's
Emily Sanchez yeah because when snoke was killed his arm wasn't cut off
To be honest I liked Ryan Johnson's choreography better
I don't think he ever wanted to hurt her in any of their duels. This was an argument between a couple that can't handle what they feel. I agree that he's just letting her hack at him to tire her out. With his overhead strike (when she was down, right before he drops the saber) I think he would have incapacitated her to stop the fight but he's never wanted to kill her. All of their interactions, including the segment where she blows up his TIE whisper by cutting off the wing (On Paasanna) are an attempt to get her attention and him attempting to persuade her to listen to him. I think this is a subtle call back to Leia and Han's fights...this is the only way he knows how to try to make a strong point with her and like Leia, she's not having it...hence the use of lightsabers to force the issue.
Yeah indeed. To me he stopped because he almost broke his own promise to take her to execol with him. During the last moments of their duel his face shown absolute aggression when he had the upper hand but when he stopped he realised that his own aggression (anger hate pain that he was carrying out within him) was about to consume him. Like Luke on ep 6 he cut off his father's hand because his rage took over him and consumed him.
I wish we saw more of Kyle Ren being calm and Rey was giving into Darkness in TLJ.
And this leading to Ben being turned back to the light by his own father, makes this even better.
I also like how Kylo's backwards hold is reminiscent of Starkiller. We haven't really seen any other Jedi or Sith use that hold aside from Ahsoka with her secondary saber.
Good video man! I really enjoyed the second half of this movie and my favourite part of it was Ben Solo! :)
Great analysis. I agree, there was no need for music during this epic battle scene. Kylo looked annoyed during the duel. You can almost hear him think “Are you done yet?” Also, did Kylo really want Rey to join the dark side? He was done with the Jedi and the Sith in TLJ. He wanted Rey to join him and bring a new order to the galaxy. Overall, I liked all the action scenes of TROS. The movie was entertaining, it’s the plot and the ending that was disappointing.
I thought when watching in theatre, that Leia absorbed the damage of Kylo's lightsaber, saving him and returning him to the light side.
That's profound 🤔
I must say, I do enjoy this duel! Also the sound design is top notch imo
Ugh why did I just find this video this was my favorite duel in the sequel trilogy!! Great links to the original and prequel trilogies and the body languages between Ben and Rey about fighting each other. Great observations AT-AT!!
i might be a little bias cause kylo/ben is my favourite character in star wars and this duel was the pathway to his redemption but this was my favourite lightsaber duel so far in the entire saga for what it represents and honestly i prefer the standard sword like fighting we get in the OT and sequels over the ninja flips and spins in the prequels, these fights keep us grounded and more in tune with the characters them selves.
If you watch the fight in the throne room, when Rey goes to swing at Kylo and he dodges multiple times, she leaves herself wide open for counter attacks over and over again, counter attacks that would have cut her in half if Kylo wanted to kill her...in the third swing her entire back is open to Kylo, but he just ignores and jumps away...if Kylo Ren wanted to kill Rey the fight would never have left the throne room full stop...he is so much more experienced than her, and I believe it’s just like Vader vs Luke in ESB, Kylo is just testing her and not taking her seriously from the begin of the fight to the end of the fight.
Kylo lets her set the pace of the fight, this is a guy who can move like prequel Jedi, he can fight at that pace if he wants to, I mean just look at how he takes out the Knights of Ren...and all of the KoR are dark side force users and are meant to be far more experienced and more proficient killers than Rey, he absolutely obliterates them in 10 seconds flat...against a Kylo Ren that she’s not connected to by a mystical Dyad, against a Kylo Ren that actually wants to kill her, Rey would never have left the Starkiller Base forest alive...nothing more needs to be said on this matter.
I love that every time Rey sees Kylo in this movie, she ignites her lightsaber and Ren is like "Are you fucking kidding"
On a serious note, I don't think I've ever been so in love with and hated a movie so much all at once
I feel that
In the novel, one of them thinks "I don't know how we got there ". As in they were so docused on the battle they didn't take note of their surondings.
I really REALLY liked this duel; it was brutal, fast, the lack of music for the most part....*chef's kiss*
Thank you for this brother, you make me love this duel even more now
I personally really liked this duel! Felt like an original trilogy duel.
I really do enjoy this movie a lot and I do think it ties everything from the originals and prequels quite beautifully. It's not a perfect movie by any means, I do have some problems upon rewatching it such as:
1. We as the audience shouldn't have known Chewie survived nearly 10 minutes before the rest of the cast, it would have made the fake out death hit more if we really thought he was gone for little while longer I think.
2. If we had more build up to Palpatine's return instead of just "Ok guys I guess he's back". I have no problem with the concept of Palpatine returning, I just think the process of it wasn't handled the best. But actually seeing Sheev back in action was a treat so I can't complain too much.
3. The movie definitely needed some breathing room for things to set in and for the audience to take a breather, and have an ability to explain certain plot points and have even more character interactions (which is the strongest part of the movie imo), plus I think it would allow the plot to be fleshed out more and not so jumbled. I don't think the plot itself is bad just a bit rushed. I personally would've been fine if this movie was 3 hours long, and really if any Star Wars movie was gonna have the luxury of a long run time shouldn't it be the last one in the main saga?
4. Ben Solo should have been more active in the final battle, and I wish he could've had a few more spoken dialogues with Rey before he dies.
In the end, these things make the movie flawed, but I it's not enough for me personally to dislike it all together. I think it did a lot of things right (including this duel), and it made me cry at the end and I felt like a million dollars when I left the theater on my first viewing, and even after my rewatch I still enjoy it a lot.
If I was stabbed by a real lightsaber I would’ve screamed the hell out of me. But I guess Kylo acted as if nothing happened.
Guys a champion
Clearly the best lightsaber duel of the whole Skywalker saga.
Raw, emotional, symbolic, epic, significant.
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A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
I wish the plot was as good as the visuals in the sequals.
I'm yet to read the novelization, but it's a very interesting battle psychologically to me. Kylo not in one moment intents to kill Rey and that's clear. Earlier on he calls them a dyad in the Force, he knows they are one, but because of the constant rejection he gets from Rey, he feels like she is not seeing it, so lets her rage run through her to force her to see that at the core they are not as different as she tries to make them out to be. The truth is Rey knows they are a dyad, she doesn't want to admit it to Ben, because admitting it means she has to surrender to either the dark side or kill him, but she knows she can't leave him, he is part of her. The ending was strange indeed, but I personally find it a beautiful conclusion to their argument. They both lose and win. Rey realises that she has to give in to Kylo to save Ben so she reveals her heart to him and Ben understands at the cost of "death" that Rey does feel what he feels.
Yess this is where the fun begins
I love these Duel Analysis videos!
"Long have I waited"
Excellent analysis! While I too had my problems with this movie, the lightsaber duels were not one of them. They're visually spectacular, and there's a lot more going on thematically and emotionally than a lot of people give them credit for. The entire sequence starting from this duel to Ben throwing his lightsaber away is pretty fantastic, in my opinion.
Looking forward to your Kijimi video!
I'm glad you also noticed how similar this battle was to both Luke Vs. Vader battles.
People just try to hate on this duel to hate but it's really good. Them using the force to block lightsaber blows makes sense and happens before in Cline wars 2003 and even used to block the force itself in epusode 3
I hate a lot of things about this movie, but this video made me appreciate this duel a whole lot more than I did before by pointing out everything that Abrams was doing here. Thanks for changing my opinion about this scene.
One of the best saber battles in Star Wars.
You mentioned that Rey was able to jump that high and far because of her emotions she gathered during the fight. And Kylo jumped further, meaning that those emotions still weren't enough compared to Kylo's power
When I watched this in a crowded theater everyone cheered when Ben fought the Knights of Ren with the Skywalker lightsaber It was glorious and what we had been waiting to see. When Ben and Rey kissed there was an eruption of applause and when Ben died the theater went quiet then burst into NO, NO, NO! In my theater it was obvious the majority enjoyed Bens redemption and didn't want him to die. When Rey took the Skywalker name there was dead silence in the theater.
Hearing Kathleen Turner talk about how fans loved the ending I wondered if I saw a different movie. When I saw the movie the majority of the audience did not like the ending.
Dude I love your fight analysis videos. Keep up the good work!
My wife pointed out that Leia used the last of her life energy to be like "Boy." Which is the most Mom thing ever!
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I just want to let you know that you explaining strategy war duels helps me understand what is happening in that duel it’s just amazing just keep up the work bro
Awesome video man... I honestly love your duel analysis videos. They're in a league of their own. Keep up the brilliant work. 😁
This is honestly my favorite duel. I love the visuals and the motivation for both of them.
This guy is so goooooood at piking signs and interpreting them into language .
This is one of my favorite fights in all of Star Wars
And this shows solid evidence to why Rey is NOT a Mary Sue that all the man babies keep crying. It’s not about the physical ability. She has natural physical talent, but she is angry, reckless and impatient.. how come haters not see this??? The most common themes of dark side Star Wars.. anger.. hate.. aggression.. thank you for this analysis, and giving greater clarity and perspective . There’s too much unfounded hate on the internet that it’s so difficult to find any videos that actually look at the film for what it is rather than what it should be for other ppl’s fantasies
TROS really is my lovely mess ❤
Great job again! Love the way you analyze the films!
This is one of my favorite Star Wars films only behind Revenge of the Sith and Empire. This was a fantastic film, and honestly I liked the dual a lot. It is a complex dual. I love how it shows how much more powerful Kylo is then Rey. And How much more in control Kylo is in this moment then Rey. Honestly the hole time I loved it. It’s a good subversion if expectations dual that lead in a totally different way then I thought it would.
Same here for me except this is my 3rd favorite Star Wars film behind The Empire Strikes Back and A New Hope.
As always on top. Lets me realize how much meaning this has
I honestly think the fight sounds perfect without music. Nothing but the waves and the lightsabers hitting one another. You get that feeling of immersion, like you’re in the moment, you’re there.
YESSS OH MY GOODNESS I REQUESTED THIS IM SO EXCITED THIS FIGHT SCENE IS ONE OF MY FAVORITES
great vid man loved the lightsabre fight one of my favriots
Another great video! AT-AT is where it's at.
I think the saber fights in TFA and TROS show JJ’s preference for the OT choreography while Rian Johnson littered TLJ with prequel flare. It shows their individual preferences
This was a very interesting duel because of how well it integrates qualities from the previous two trilogies such as the Atmosphere of a Prequel Duel, primarily in relation to the duel between Anakin and Obi-Wan over raging volcanic eruptions, and also having choreography very similar to the originals(as many refer to as baseball bat swings), and it made for a great combination.
Great job. I've been looking forward to this one
So that’s also a reason why Finn is so worried about Rey. He can sense that she’s using the dark side.
Great video-analysis of this fight! I loved this duel and Rise of Skywalker as a whole. Every scene in that film is done so well. It did well getting its central message across, especially as it relates to Rey's story (choosing who you will be, an act of freedom, not letting it be determined by others or your bloodline). At the end of the day, this is what Star Wars is about, its about communicating a message, its underlying wisdom and message(s) is why Star Wars was created to begin with.
Finn vs Kylo anaylsis? My favorite fight in the sequels.
Great video!
I don't get how people still say that Rey beats Kylo everytime. He won in all of their duels in this movie
I really like this analysis! Superb.
i’ve always been a little disappointed that Ben didn’t purify his cracked crystal, making his lightsaber white (and maybe getting rid of the cross guards in the process?)
Man, I love your explanations :)
Finally a Very Good Analysis bravo
Yes I've been waiting for this your analysis on the other duels are awesome. This is my personal favorite duel and I agree 100% with the lack of score. Everytime Rey stabs Kylo I gasp it also leads to my favourite moment in Star Wars with Han coming back. I've heard criticisms that this fight is emotionless? I don't get that at all
YAY! I bought those books because of you man, just letting you know. Loved this. Now I'm gonna read the damn things.
Dude! Awesome break down. You added a lot of depth to this for me. 👍
Thanks brotha 👊
I'm kinda disappointed that you didn't talked about their fight on kajimi with their dyad connection in effect.
At this point in Bens arc, he is focused on killing Palpatine. One thing Skywalker are good at is their intense focus to get what they want.
I have to say that this duel was one part of the movie where I didn't move during my first two viewings. Of course that happens when I watch movies in D-box format, where you feel the blows and walk with the actors. OH YEA this scene was just all sorts of crazy.