Every Engine NEEDS These Upgrades! - Barra Powered Crown EP4
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ค. 2024
- Want to know the Secrets to upgrade your Barra? Follow this Parts guide!
While the FG turbo engine is the most capable Barra built, in standard form it will still need some modifications to make more horsepower and be reliable.
Today on The Skid Factory We'll run you through what parts are required and how to install them on your factory turbo FG Falcon Engine.
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0:00 Barra rebuild intro
0:35 previously Built engines
1:44 why an FG Engine is better
2:04 Parts Required to rebuild your Barra
4:00 Cylinder head removal
4:39 Barra Turbo Oil Feed
7:12 Cylinder head inspection
8:44 Barra Performance Camshafts & Valve Springs
9:55 DIY Deck Surface Cleaning
11:45 Cylinder Head Installation
14:44 Barra Broken Valve cover bolts
16:57 Oil Pump Gears & Backing Plate Replacement
20:50 Genuine Timing chain Tensioner only!
22:16 Idler Pulley replacement with Steel Pulleys
23:18 What a Harmonic Balancer does & Why it needs to be replaced
27:16 The Skid Factory Barra Intake Plenum
29:35 Why Barra's are popular
31:55 Outtakes - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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@@yowie0889 (or is that actually yorie0889) Are you ... wagging me?
13:30 feedback for ToolProX: the torque wrench should moan instead of beep when it hits the setting
🤣🤣
Need to be adapted to the ”new” world. Choose between man and woman😂
Should whistle. Family Guy's Herbert whistle.
@@aserta why not a usb port, upload your own degenerate .wav file
a torque wrench that moans uwu or yamate kudesai perhaps
Sorry guys I can't buy any merch. My mum said I maxed out her credit card on Al's only fans, I'm grounded for life apparently
A worthwhile sacrifice for that sweet sweet taint footage.
Disconnect yourself from the battery terminals
😂
Mum was just pissed she couldn't spend anything on the Woody's Woody OF cause you maxed out her card.
What's his @?
I'm 52 years old and I have never put my hands on a
Barra everything American small block Chevys big block Ford and of course hemis love the build🔥 much love from Detroit 🤙
Watching Woody and Al "spit roast" a barra will be the higlight of my week.....😂 Needs some 80s erotica music over the top...bow chica wow wow...
11:00 The lads rubbing their deck together
Alan: 'we're going to use an easy-out'
Everyone who's ever used an easy-out: 'don't do it, Alan!'
Alan: 'it's an easy-out, they never work...'
We feel your pain, yet we all keep going back to them time after time! Keep up the top work lads, it's always a pleasure to watch the latest video on a Wednesday on this side of the world. Cheers!
Because that one time it worked was glorious. Lol
I find left hand drill bits are useful when drilling the holes 9/10 times they wind out whilst drilling
@@TheMrkylester101Yes finally someone mentions left-handed drill bits, they are awesome for extracting snapped bolts ❤️
@TheMrkylester101 just bought some for the workshop yesterday, can't wait to never use them 😂
Get a set of left hand drill bits.
Sometimes they are enough to get a broken bolt out of a hole.
Perfect for broken barra bolts.
Hey woody, just want to give a heads up, throw the atomic guids in the bin and run factory fg. Been there and done that stuff around.
I was a tad bit surprised that after al said he recommends the oem timing chain tensioner he didnt backflip and say 'here is one from a subaru'....
Every Barra video makes me want to import one to the states. Keep it up great content!
Why bother paying so much to get a Barra to the other side of the world? Don't you guys pay like $500 for LS engines?
@@notmyrealname7432it's an LS..
30:20 You're dead on, Al. The Barra is the end of a long line of modifications and design tweaks going back to the ThriftPower Six from 1960 - but obviously, there's been so many mods to the design by now that the relationship isn't really recognisable any more without seeing all the intervening versions.
you replace the axe handle with an upgraded one then you replace the axe with an upgraded axe, is it the same axe?
@@tturi2 I think you're referring to Grandpa's axe. It's had 5 new handles and 3 new heads, but it's still Grandpa's axe. :) Let us all thank the blue oval gods that they stuck with Grandpa's axe as long as they did. I sorta feel the same way about the LS-series engines if I'm completely honest. There are so many parallels between the Commodore and the Falcon, their drivelines and performance, that it seems a little ignorant to love one and hate the other. I've had nothing but Fords (and a few turbo Subarus thrown in for a little spice), but I'd be thrilled to have a manual HSV GTS in the shed.
@@tturi2 Same idea, only no one's saying it's the same engine, but in the analogy it's argued that it's the same axe. The design began with the Thriftpower Six and has been adjusted and modified ever since with a fairly long series of design changes and improvements into what we know today as the Barra. They're far from the same, but the design lineage is traced directly from one to the other.
Don't forget some sealant on the VCT solenoid seals and under the rocker cover where the timing cover meets the block
Yes good advice - I always put some on the corners too - though the Barra gasket is such a beefy bit of neoprene, it probably wouldn't leak out the corners like on some cars I've done valve cover gaskets on.. I was astounded to know that 2 of the water pump bolts penetrate the jacket - I've done I think 3 Barra water pumps in my time, and never realised! None of them ever leaked, at least as far as I know, or maybe just didn't leak enough to ever notice - so I guess I got lucky there. The main thing I remember about them was every single time scraping the old factory gasket off with the engine in the car was horrific.
MC Motronic needs to be on a tshirt now
MC Sprocket
Ah yes the lilactop barra that was built only in the second half of July in 2011 on Wednesday afternoons, designed specifically for the vegemite 300 production car races at bathurst
I wasn't ready for 😂 the timing chain Crew.. TCC for life ya gronk
10:49 even the cheapest (well, not so cheap that they'd fall apart) stones are good. Just rub them together with plenty of super fine machine oil (what you'd put in Grandmama's old Singer sewing machine) and when the feel and sound of the grind action (of the same same faces) changes, and it is noticeable with new stones) that's when they are perfectly flat and perfectly ok to use.
Sidenote: a trick to use them without Schmutz flying in is to just invert the motor and do it upside down. It's on the kebab stand, so use it to your (royal your) advantage. If you have to do this in the engine and can't flush it, then just stuff the passages with napkins and clay (kid's plasteline/plasticine).
As long as you rub the stones together every once in a while to keep them flat and you let the weight of the stone do the work for you, it's perfectly acceptable. Machinists do this all the time on surfaces that are FAR, far more critical than an engine's deck (with the caveat that they use higher quality stones).
I'm using the term "kebab stand" from now on.
Hahahaha the Tugger reference had me in stitches! Also interesting to see how the workshop continues to evolve, including white walls for filming and light quality? Awesome work fellas, look forward to the end result of this build.
only thing I'd add is that the cam caps are directional and sided due to the line honing and cant be swapped around, or there could be issues with binding etc
Thanks for sharing your real experience and tips with this one. Was cool to see the shitty simple things you can do wrong that end up in max frustration and time. Also Woody asking the serious life questions after the credits. Best bet I just added Vegemite Shapes to my order this week as well as Cheese Shapes. Big moments in science.
+1 for always painting things.... Woody, you're not alone!! =D
It was very enjoyable to watch you do a whole engine.
I'm most impressed about the successful application of easy-outs ;)
Love seeing the videos each week! Keep it up!
A polo shirt merch option would be cool (eg. with embroidered TSF or Allied words/logo).
I tend to wear polos more than T-shirts when going out for "Queensland neck sunburn" and "looking a bit neater" reasons. I'm probably not the only one.
The eshay lads would love them too.
Could wear one to golf!
@@Mattstang Exactly. Also your own wedding. What could be more stylish?
I love this style of your content. Old skool home remedies that don't work (i hate eaze outs), do's, and don'ts. Keep up the good work boys. P.s. i also had pork roast for dinner.
love all the slow mo-beauty shots guys :D :D :D And my boss would always get pissed off at me as well when I'd want to paint up stuff before putting it all back together.
As an ex mechanic myself (and having learnt the hard way when I was 17, I'm now early 40's and hesitate to use them), when using an ezy out or any screw extractor tool, never use one more than half the diameter of the bolt/stud you are trying to remove. It forces the (by then) weaker walls of the offensive material to bite harder into the material you are trying to extract it from, creating a stronger grip for that tool to overcome. If you can't remove it with something smaller than half the diameter, move straight to drilling and tapping, or get a professional to sort it.
They just suck. The first one came out easily, as soon as the ezy out slipped on the second one I knew I was in for a bad time.
Before the sleezy out, I always drill with left handed drill bits, usually loosens the bolt if there is ever going to be a chance of them coming out
Best broken bolt removal tool is a Lefthanded drill bit.👍
Genuine tensioners applies to Holden too. Especially alloytecs. The number of brand new chain kits I've had to replace tensioners in, due to poor quality is unbelievable
Loving the barra content lads👍
Nicely done
god damn ild love to build my barra with turbo yoda. so much knowledge in his head and ive got so much to learn
This is next level, my eyes are glued
You do realise the notorious Al, aka "MC Motronic", aka "Turbo Yoda", aka "Dose Daddy", needs to do a rap cover now...right?
your the only guys on youtube ive ever heard tell people to be careful about fitting cams, most guys seem to gloss over it! i remember the mechanic (dodgey dave) that taught me to be careful with them at the very start of my apprenticeship when i was a kid, for some reason its one moment i always remember anytime im doing it! probably cause he had me believing id be paying for the next cam! 😅🤣
Woody - channeling his inner Davin painting that block all fancy like.
I make my own easy-out. I buy end mills (broken ones that need a regrind are perfect for this) and grind them into a triangle pyramid. That thing driven not too hard into the hole grips really well and with a little bit of heat, then some compressed air from a can directly and only on the easy-out, pops them out pretty consistently. You don't even need too much heat, a heatgun does just fine, it's all about shocking the bolt through the easy-out. I sometimes use an impact driver (the mechanical kind). A store bought easy-out wouldn't take it, but the ground one can. Those flutes they have are great for bigger sizes of bolt, but for small stuff, it's just asking for trouble.
Love the information, hate the music the music makes me feel like clicking off but I like watching turbo Yoda, so I stuck around
Al's knowledge, is so good!
Nice work Fellas!
16:14 lol the only time I've ever used an easy out I ended up snapping it off in the lower half of the sparkplug I was trying to remove with it. Was jammed in real good (too deep into the heads to grab with any tool capable of removing it), given how hard they are it sure was fun figuring out how to drill it out once I got the heads off. A 10mm diamond core bit (like a small hole saw for drilling holes in tile) is what did the trick incase anyone is wondering (was expensive, and I probably ruined it, but that was still one of the best pieces of advice I've ever got from the internet).
Cheers lads.
Cool to see a skid factory V lowstandards build off , 👍👍
After breaking many easy outs over the years, I started using reverse drill bits. So far they've been much better.
I find beating a trx bit/socket into the hole you drilled works better than easy outs 👌💯🤙
Love the valve cover!
Cool vid!!!
I'd reckon they use paper on the intake because its cooler temperatures and steel on the exhaust because of the extreme temperatures of the exhaust. I would imagine there's more expansion and compression on the exhaust side from the heat cycling and the steel gasket withstands that sort of abuse better over the long term than the paper would.
Nice to see you using oil instead of that silly pink gloop 👍
Love the vids, been watching since you guys started (honestly, longer, since I'm a MCM fan)!
Consider recording in 60fps. Video quality is great, but movement gets kind of blurry/looks weird. If your cameras can do it, 60fps would smooth that out a lot.
Should we start calling you Tyler Thompson with the rose gold cover
THANK YOU FOR VIDEO
That's a really nice metallic lilac cam cover. Looks quite swish 😊 I like the straight 6 history. At least Ford modernised with VVT unlike the LS that's descended from Chevys 1930 boat anchor V8 and never went to VVT 😉
Oh they'll vary alright. Just not particularly beneficial. Like the displacement on demand. Yeesh.
Many US spec LS engines did have VVT. We never got them here in Australia
@@greasemonkeychris4128 Was that the LT variant?
WRONG! There are SEVERAL LS based engines that had VVT, just a 5 min google search can prove you wrong on so many levels, and no, i'm not talking about the LT generation.
@@joealex65 I'm not an LS fan but intrigued as to why I've never seen these VVT versions used when anyone builds an LS for media content?
As I'm not American then I've not had the exposure to the VVT version GM made. My bad :)
Good 'ole Rodger
“Do them up by hand”
Rings true!
😂
It’s the shear strength that’s called into question. 😌
You can also remove the screen from the turbo block oil feed. I did this as soon as warranty was over on my stock FGT
13:08 Love that transition
Good video.
Awesome lads…
Nice lads, informative and enjoyable, always quality. Ive seen the Toolprox gear, can you give a a few reviews on it, interested in getting it if it’s good
Man I wish we got the Barra in the USA!
Who else is excited for this new electronic torque wrench from ToolproX ??? Can't wait !
4:18 There it is!
I was waiting for it, especially with the way Woody removed the rocker cover and looked inside the engine.
10:35 - 10:51 🤣😅
I'm no Inline 6 performance engine expert, but there seem to be a lot of quirks with the bara.
It's almost like it's a Ford....😅
Nice colour for the rocker cover.
Woody you needed to give the timing cover some paint too, rocker cover colour is cool 👌
A tall friend told me that digitial torque wrench should be in stores early next year
MC DROPS-A-GEAR!!! I mean, it fits in so many ways... especially when you ask for a name right after he drops parts lol.
If only there were a colour for the block more resplendent than black...
Silver… you can spot a leak
White, like cat marine engines
Blue like old Ford intended
Resplendent Red, that’s what she said.
I painted mine white. Next one is pink…
Vegemite on Vegemite shapes? You're an animal Woody
MAKING IT SUPER!!!!!!
750-800 max 900 you’re pulling your leg, I’m a Barra man myself and have popped a handful myself, 800 tops on stock Rods
People have made big power with stock rods. Never seen one last though! 😂
@@Woodrigos that’s it bro,
Omfg! I love the "The New Terrance and Phillip Movie Trailer" clips.... Ohhh my godddd it's Russell Crowe...😂😂😂
You guys always manage to make me actually laugh out load. 😂😂😂🇦🇺🤜🏼🤛🏼😎🍀
I should be cooking dinner but here I am.
Yall should come out to the Pittsworth sprints this weekend to check out the plethora of falcons n commos send it around the industrial estate all weeekend :p
Bit of pink peeping thru on that cam cover, you should call it "Shy Barbie."
Lilac AF😍
The tapered, spiral easy outs never work because their design is fundamentally flawed. As they dig in they push out on the threads and bind them further. Any time you wedge something tapered into a hole, it's got to push out. Left hand drills are often enough on their own but I like the Ridgid 35585/Blue Point E1020 screw extractor set. They can be had for a couple hundred bucks in Australia. It's worth it, they actually work really well. It's a set of drills and a straight spline piece that you hammer so it doesn't push out on the threads. Ditch the easy outs and get one of those.
Woody's dad-bod is blossoming ever more with each episode... with great skill comes great man boobs :)
left hand drills are the go for drilling out broken bolts
Do not use just any whet stone, buy a matching pair that have been precision ground for machinists, whet stones straight from the factory are no where near flat and will mess up even an iron block, it you are that worried just have an engine shop skim it till it's flat, it's faster and worth the money
In my 10 years of being a mechanic, I have broken more easy outs than I have broken bolts. Drill and retap or weld a nut is best options hands down
20:00 Glad the only “drill” Al knows is the one used to get those valve cover bolts out.
Just needs some “BRRRT BRRRT” noises and he’s set! Lol
it looks like the valves were replaced or even the whole head maybe. as you said timing chain looked very good as well. that sounds to me head serviced/replaced/gasket and timing chain were replaced. the head looks cleaner than the the block side which doesn't make sense. the amount of carbon on the pistons but not in the head tells me so much
that's my opinion unless they just put a bunch of seafoam down it.
With the cams being notorious for pitting I noticed you reused the lifters. a good set of lifters won't cost much more. common man
26:49 hope you bought genuine rocker cover VCT seals including the gasket & spark plug seals ;)
I would've painted the block too !!
“It’s and easy out, they never work” never a truer word spoken. Used to make a lot of good money getting broken easy outs then broken studs out. A stud is a box of beer. Throw a broken off easy out in there too then you’re talking 300-400 bucks.
With that chain and cog around your neck reminds Al me of MR T (for Turbo) LOL!!
Doger is a good boy.
You haven't lived until you've snapped an easy out in an already stuck bolt !
easy in easy out.
I am joe from Malta and i have buy holden comodor vx automatic i have a barra engine i need same tip to swap the engine tks and what gear box i need to swap tks 😊
I'd be interested in seeing a back to back difference in using that plenum. Maybe i'll have to make my own.
I thought you made some interesting engine parts choices
You mention something along the lines of "you shouldn't increase the limiter on your barra" but you are putting "b" cams in
I've talked to Kelford about this very question and they said that "a" cams provide plenty and will rev over 7 if needed.
He said that for my build (while I suspect will end up with the same figures as you) that "b" cams are way too much and all I'd get is more lope and another 1000rpm ontop of the spool of the turbo
I'm currently at 6500rpm on stock cams and its almost peak power there. Fairly low boost up top but thats the power curve...
👌nice
I like the torque wrench but I also don't.. great for the angle torque but when it's a number I like the click click maybe I'm just old school at the old age of 30... we have the t&e that looks the same as your toolpro one
Turn the beep alert on
Is that the Barbie Barra with the pink cover? I was hoping you'd paint the block.
R O D G E R
Love you Alan 😛
It amazes me how tool companies like tool pro makes tools where owning….. back in the day you wouldn’t touch them
I've heard you're supposed to pack those oil pumps with vasolene or something similar for first startup so it builds prime, not sure how much truth is to it tho
just saw a "Woody Wagon" in Arana Hills on Tuesday... number plate was familiar? or am i losing my mind ?