The Unholy Trinity Reunion Tour 2020
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ค. 2024
- On February 15, 2020 in Tulsa, OK, friends and activists Seth Andrews, Aron Ra, and Matt Dillahunty took the stage to engage a live audience with questions and comments.
Special thanks to www.actok.org for sponsoring the event.
I've had an atheist friend. I wanted to try and help him find God, but i needed some strong, good arguments to convince him. So first i've tried to understand his point of view, so i could point him his errors. Couldn't find much of them. So i took my Bible, start reading, to find and show him the greatness of God. Now i'm an atheist myself. Cause this book doesn't contains what my parents/priests said to me it does. It contains blood, violence, stupidity, sexism, and whole lot of other b*llsh*t.
I too was a brainwashed christian for the first 35 years of my life. In my 30's I wanted to get closer to our lord and savior, so I did something too few people actually do.......I read the bible. First time I read it, I did all the gymnastics and made all the excuses for all the contradictions and EVIL commanded by that "god". But by the time I got to the end of that book, I was agnostic.
I decided to read it again, but that 2nd time with an Open Mind, not a brainwashed one. I figured, IF there truly is a good god, he would NOT mind me asking all the tough questions. In fact if he were real and a good god, he would want us to ask all the tough questions, because that would at least weed out all the false gods. So I read it again. BOY WHAT A DIFFERENCE. Reading it with an open mind made me see how EVIL that character truly is. By the time I finished it that 2nd time, I was Atheist. After alot of years of researching this topic, I can say there is ZERO proof of any "god". If there is one, he/she/it does NOT want us to know.
This quote was true in both our cases -- "Properly read, the bible is the most potent force for Atheism ever conceived." -- Isaac Asimov
If only more people would actually READ their supposed "holy books".
@kim burley So basically you are - as born again christian - ok with slavery, selling your children into slavery, massmurdering people etc etc etc. It´s there, and you cannot discuss away. But you can close your eyes and your mind and stick your fingers in your ears and pretend. Do as you wish, i don´t care. But don´t come here and try to be a missionary.
@kim burley Firstly i don´t need saving for there is nothing to be saved from. Keep your fairy tales to yourself. Secondly i don´t want to repeat myself, so read above. And thirdly i´m educated enough not to waste my time with people who live in a fantasy world. Have a nice day.
@kim burley you are confusing historical book with an ancient book. Your is just old collection of what people believe in this time, in this area. That's why only non-secular sources are mentioning Jesus character. That's why it contains things that we do know (thanks to science) cannot happened in reality. So you are trolling or you were mislead very bad (and only in that case i'm really sorry for you. If you talked yourself into it, than you're wasting your life on your own demand).
@kim burley -- You say I "read it as an unsaved person". Wrong. As I said, the first time I read the bible I read it as a Brainwashed religious person. I believed all that crap. I believed it and wanted it to be true. As I said, I was Brainwashed. I was "Saved". That was true for the first 35 years of my life. So you are wrong there.
Then I read the bible to get closer to our lord and savior. The first time I read through that book, I could not believe the EVIL and all the contradictions in it. But I was brainwashed, so I made all the Excuses and did all the Gymnastics. But by the time I got to the end of that book, I couldn't take it anymore. By the end, I was agnostic, but still WANTED to believe. So I told myself "I will read it again, but with an Open Mind. If there is a god, and it is a good god, then he will want it this way. He will not be mad when I ask all the tough questions, in fact, if he truly is a good god, he will love the tough questions because that will at least weed out all the false gods."
So I read it that 2nd time.........with an Open Mind, not a Brainwashed one. That 2nd reading made me realize that IF there is a god, it sure as hell is NOT the god of the bible. Too EVIL, and too many contradictions.
After that 2nd reading, I was what I am now, Atheist. All that means is, that I do not see any real evidence for any god. After years of research, atheism is the only choice. So either ---
1. there is no god, or
2. there is.......but he sure as hell does not want us to know.
Take your pick.
With no real evidence of any god, I vote number 1. If #2 is true, then it is an EVIL god. Simple as that.
Atheist veterans and a secular sobriety. As a veteran, I say OUTSTANDING!
Humanism, skepticism, and science. Sign me up.
Make sure to check the fine print before signing! At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Matt smuggled in a line which requires you to surrender to the higher power of the Google-Overlord.
@Joe Horn it's a jab at Matts phone habits. I think this is the only event I've ever seen, live or on the internet, where the same phone has been the center of attention on the stage more than once.
@JDO What the hell are you talking about?
@JDO I know what the problem of induction is, I'm saying that your statement makes no sense. Science doesn't singularly address causality. Science is the systematic study of the world through observation and experimentation.
I started crying after hearing about the rescue van. So happy knowing animals have a chance.
Three people I'd genuinely like to meet, just to prove to myself that they exist..
Congratulations!!! You have now reached Advanced Skeptic level 4.. Please pick up your prize, that probably doesn't exist.
You mean you don't believe on FAITH? hahaha
You will meet them in Eternity.....
Donald. Perilously close to an argument ad baculum fallacy
I've met Aron, so I can verify that he exists. But you've never met me, so there's no guarantee that I exist, so I guess that doesn't help you.
Aron has an engineer mindset, Matt has the project manager mindset, Seth has the salesman mindset.
"I don't have a beer because beer is not allowed here." "It's a really strong coke." Haha thanks Aron!
Napcitycell Gaming and right after that, Matt said, “... or I’d be beating it off right now.” And then right after he realized he said it, he kind of looks up and says sort of under his breath to himself- “Beating it off?”...
Faith is believing in a concept, regardless of any and all evidence put forth against it, and regardless of the lack of objective evidence to support it.
Cobalt_ Um... that’s a pretty sloppy definition if I ever did hear one. But that’s what you get when talking about something as insidious as this.
@@dillonhamilton2914 define faith sir..
Napcitycell Gaming No thanks. Fuck faith.
Poor Seth, after the mention of his dogs he was ready to cry for the rest of this talk, You could even hear it in his voice. Maybe he was just a little under the weather but he had me in tears too. They weren't even my dogs but I cried.
Only speaking for myself, I'm glad that when I reached out to god for help and answers that I never got a response. It reassured me that my faith, trust and source for truth was misplaced. It freed me to be intellectually honest and open to concepts that would have been off limits otherwise.
Each person has their own journey to make.
At the end of the day "god" gave us a brain to think with, right? How dare we use that brain and he punish us for using it.
The reason you did not get the answer is because you did not want to get the answer.
Its like my sister, she wanted to keep on partying and having fun so badly, that she "heard from God" after she prayed that she can go and do an abortion.
@Richard M Agreed. This feeling is still part of my mindset. The hymns and biblical stories will always be a part of my life.
@@nikokapanen82
*The reason you did not get the answer is because you did not want to get the answer.*
Geez. How arrogant and presumptuous do you have to be to assume that you can know what someone else's motivations and thoughts are?
@@andrewcurley5006
Jesus does not lie. Everyone who truly seeks, will find.
Aron The Father
Matt The Son and Seth the Unholy Spirit.
LuthAMF are you saying “clearly thanks” because you are a troll as he said that you were?
Mutale Mwananshiku
I don’t know how this is even a question. 😉
Seth has the Voice of God. So it’s Seth father, Matt son, Aron ghost. I have spoken.
@@neilforbes416 Sounds like you like atheist echo-chambers.
As fucked as this troll LuthAMF seems, at least he is not in the class of SGlooball or Truth Matters.
@@Simon.the.Likeable probably just as silly. Bizarre they come to channels they dislike just to make childish comments
Absolutely love you guys . As an ex Jehovah’s Witness, the training was to always go back to those people because the circumstances will always change and there would be an opportunity for us to preach to them because they would be more willing to accept what the Bible says . They would be more perceptive , the idea was that everyone would have a moment of weakness due to our everyday problems when we put our guard down and are more willing to accept , this is how they got me and most of the congregation adults . You guys are doing an excellent job and I thank you very much , love you all ❤
I remember watching the Bill Nye creation debate and there was a video of HItchens suggested next. Wow! one click and I've been an atheist for 3 years. But these 3 really helped me get through that beginning phase of leaving religion. Keep up the work guys!
religion is the worship of a god. christianity is a religion.
Re the trinity, Aron's speech nailed it when he said that he focused on the science, Matt on the philosophy, and Seth on the humanism. If we MUST assign labels to them, then Aron would be God, being a student on the way the works, Seth is the Son, being mindful of how to live in a non-religious manner, and Matt gets to be the Holy Spirit, being concerned with the more theoretical side of things.
@David Anewman Define 'religion'. While you're there, look up 'metaphor' and 'satire'
@David Anewman Delusion n. David Anewman
Being a life long atheist you guys are still a huge inspiration and a source of knowledge for when i engage in discussions in life or on Twitter, so thank you for your hard work! And I'm very happy I live in a secular country where religion is firmly put into and stays in churches!
Seth we can all hear the tears in your voice starting to tell the story of Henry and Rat Dog before you admitted it. I think a lot of us cried along with you that day. And dammit I'm crying again. So glad something wonderful came out of that grief.
I've heard of a secular sobriety program.
SMART.
Self Management And Recovery Therapy.
I give all three of these men the utmost respect as I have learned a lot from them. They have also shown me that I am not alone, there is a community of atheists and skeptics out there. I am very glad that I found my way to their channels here at TH-cam! You guys are awesome and thank you all for everything you do!
We wanted to go so bad, but couldn’t. I love all of you, but especially Seth. Please come to Kansas City!!🥰🤘You guys rock.
When I reconnected with a friend from high school in 2011, he had been sober for six months and has not had a drink since November of 2010. In that month of 2019, his FIRST words when he was posting about his sober birthday "I couldn't have done it without God."
I wanted to comment "NO, YOU DID IT!!!!!"
However, we are in an area of the country close to where Seth lives, so people still believe the fairy tale..so I left it alone.
Just as bad is when someone goes through dangerous surgery, and they come out thanking god.... NO! Thank the fucking well-trained and experienced surgeon, you ass!
That’s why the first step of the 12 steps at AA, as Matt points out, needs to go away. But that’s what religion wants you to believe; that everything is beyond you.
Sounds like aa lingo. I been going to aa/na meetings for years and it is supposed to be a"spiritual, not religious program"but the big book of aa talks about spiritual awakening and finding a God of your understanding(whatever that means) all throughout.i really like the idea of secular sobriety meetings as Matt stated early on. I like the camaraderie and alot of the principles of aa. But then they close the meeting with prayer and it bothers me a lil
I have wondered if I would ask them how it would make them feel IF it actually was him/her with the help from their friends, family and perhaps some specialist, that they were able to stop alcoholism? Would it make them feel better or worse about it?
I enjoyed watching this! All 3 of you are awesome and help so many people in so many ways...Thank you.☺
"In the name of the father, the son and into the hole he goes" ~Dave Allen
The higher power people love to label "god" is just more of yourself.
@Bob Smith Since i can't seem to understand any of the comments you guys made, i'll have to ask: James, what do you mean? Is it a Dave Allen quote? Bob, did you base your comment knowing James position? I would love some clarity on the issue.
Edit: Have youtube removed the "edit" remark? Bobs comment ain't what i remember it to be...
@Bob Smith What is your best intellectual humiliation you can give to someone that don't believe in your god and never have believed in any god?
@Bob Smith Sorry, but i never heard of NDE, please clarify...
@Bob Smith To be honest, I've heard of near death experiences but that abbreviation was completely new to me.
Had the privilege to meet all three of these fellows at the last Freeflo in Orlando last year. Please keep up the fight men.
The Thinking Atheist! Thankyou, Seth, for posting this! It was so fun and inspiring to watch, I so wish I could go to these things! I got Arons' speech, I assume he had to post quickly with his dog, and cruise coming up soon. I hope you'll post your talk, also. Plus, I gotta say, again, you are getting better looking all the time! (Which is really unfair!) So is your wife! You guys look great, and you deserve to. 😊👏💖✌️🎃
Damn wish I could have been there, only 40 miles down the road, but we’re so understaffed right now just wasn’t possible, thanks for posting this
We don’t need a godless nurse . Thank you.
@@seanaden3387 we absolutely need a godless nurse. I'd rather they know what to do than pray for me.
Just a comment from Scandinavia (Norway):
*These three intelligent and eloquent individuals, for me - represents the very best of mankind: **_Intelligence in use! . . . ._*
Aron and Matt:
The omnipotent god already knows what it would take to convince everyone that he exists
and he could accomplish this at any time.
So why doesn't he appear on Matt's show to settle the issue?
Nothing.
Grow up! You're supposed to be a critical thinker, but you idolize these arrogant assholes????
@Cynthia Pope You obviously are not a good judge of character. My parents who had a proven record of being very bright minds warned me against arrogance, because it is the first step towards fanaticism.
@@twombonu Must be hard on you when someone who knows more about the topic than you always keep bursting the bubble you try to live in, eh? . . . . 😆
@@sharkamov Sure, you know better, don't you, arrogant prick.
Patrick was working so we couldn't come but we are listening to it now and laughing along with you guys. Seth, Aron-Ra, Matt you are all such wonderful people and I love all your videos.
All three of you guys played apart in my journey out of faith. I am lucky to live in an area where I can be a part of the ACA family, to have that constant support. They have been so good to me and my family.
I blaspheme everyday sometimes twice a day ,just to make sure I dont come down with that evangelical bug goin round .
Blasphemy is like a neti pot -- kinda gross and not part of my culture; but both do help relieve pressure.
Blasphemy is a blast for me too!
Sounds dumb and petty. I would expect that behavior for a teenage girl with father issues
I dropped my hammer on my foot at work. Yelled god damn it. The kids there started trying to stone me.
Well how do you know if you are right to be doing things like that being an atheist? I mean I know we all sin, but still...
People come so far because WE LOVE YOU GUYS!!!! Just incase you had any doubts.🥰
Add The Amazing Atheist TJ Kirk it would be the Four Horsemen.
I love all three of these men so much. They were the first I found on my way out of religion and I wouldn’t be where I am today without them.
David Anewman There’s that Christian love for ya!
So many atheists are such good and moral people. I love you all. My father was an alcoholic and when I was about 14 I attended my first al-anon meeting. I remember it because the leader said that he was an atheist and his higher power was the coffee pot. And yes I read it all, religious and atheist, however, my Christian friend will not real atheist literature. I sent my friend a video by Seth, and he told me to stay away from him, that he was evil and working for the devil. Is it just me or does that just sound stupid and closed minded.
They have to be closed minded in order to maintain the charade. The second you open yourself up to other viewpoints and possibilities as a Christian, some part of your religious faith will fracture or fray. Saying people are “of the devil” is just a very convenient way of excusing themselves from having their faith challenged.
Anyone that has listened to Seth Andrews speak on the matter of family, community, his own notion of progress as a nation, health, medicine or anything really, no healthy person could find evil in that.
Both
All praise to the almighty coffee pot!
Any information that challenges their indoctrination causes them to fear it is from the devil.
DAMMIT, I MISSED IT!
I thought it was going to be later in the year.
Sigh.
Oh well, at least I can watch it here. Thanks for posting it, Seth
Ikr same
It was supposed to be in march i thought
(Haven't watched the video yet, but will watch it all later)
Shouldn't this be called "The Unholy Trinity: The Second Coming"?
It is good
Hell yeah
I apologized to all 3 of my kids. I said that I felt i was doing the right thing at the time. That's all you can do. Be honest. We're all human. Hopefully, they will do better with their own children.
Diane Gaus, I apologized to my kids too. I blush with embarrassment and cringe when I replay some talks I had with them. They have been so gracious and forgiven me. I was washed clean of my brainwashing parental sin.
Finally uploaded!
Perfect trio with completely different styles that compliment each other.
I'm so lucky with my parents! We were all religious when I was a kid. But I remember the summer they visited and I was scared to tell them I was an atheist. I had motel rooms reserved for them in vision of how angry they would be. Turned out they had a secret to tell me: they had become atheists too, and were equally scared to tell me. We all realized how wrong it was that we were afraid to talk to each other, and it really brought us a lot closer together. And religious made us afraid to tell each other who we were.
My parents are still very conservative and I'm still very liberal. But, wow, we are so much closer now that we no longer believe in the supernatural.
My husband and I have taken the stance to give his cousin's kids as many science related books we can get away with, just to keep them curious and eager to find things out. And there are so many children appropriate science books out there.
I recommend "Grandmother Fish" by Jonathan Tweet
@@warmweeniesdoxiesweaters2884 Thank you. I'll absolutely try to find that one for them. Looks amazing. For Christmas, we got the kids "Armstrong: The Adventurous Journey of a Mouse to the Moon" and "Edison: The Mystery of the Missing Mouse Treasure" by Torben Kuhlmann. The year before, we got them a pop-up book on how animals live and two astronomi books.
Great idea!!!
@David Anewman science does not require anything spiritual, whatever that means. No science book has ever concluded "oh, look, god dun it" ever.
@David Anewman 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 creation scientists conclude that but they are not scientist that creation isny science. Hahahahahhas
Aron looks like he should bust out a guitar and start jamming.
I really love you guys equally. You helped me to be able to say that I was atheist & not to just believe it & think I was odd. You gave me the gift of a sense of community & belonging. I will follow you & learn from you until my dying day. Love you guys!
my hand is up for ALL of you!! Thank you, Thank you!
The question about Seth's dogs was great. Forgot about seeing that Van on his facebook and was wondering the exact same thing at the time.
Fantastic speeches! If you get the chance to hear them speak do!!!
As a life long atheist from the uk, want to say the work the 3 of you do is amazing and any time I meet a religious person questioning their faith I refer them to your videos. No doubt that hitchins, Dawkins and Harris were the front runners in the you tube atheist movement but I feel the way you guys do it was better imo. Keep up the outstanding work you're all doing!
Thanks so much for all that has helped me on this panel.
Yes!! The Ultimate Atheist Trifecta!
A Bug's Life
*cries in Dawkins*
Dawkins, Hitchens, Shermer
47:46
Now here is a good slogan when Aron runs for US president: "Make the universe make sense again..."
When my girlfriend's youngest daughter who was 10 at the time, and whom I had known since she was 8, found out that I was an atheist, she cried and cried. The second time we discussed me being an atheist, she cried and cried. I never once told her what she should believe, but she's 14 now and laughs at religion.
I love this Unholy Trinity. You're all humble brilliant people who have been through the rigours of religion. I was lucky to have been born Buddhist. My mom told me to pray for "Money, Prosperity, and Long Life." That's it. I prayed for those three and it was fun--I knew that those 'prayers' don't matter much unless I support them by living my life productively, healthily, and frugally. It was 9/11 that woke me up to how scary it is that some people are brainwashed to hijack and fly planes into the Twin Towers. I was outraged and angry that such teachings can destroy so many lives. Since then, I started finding books, resources, videos, and podcasts on Atheism. Thank you again for what you do and how you support us.
Thank you Seth for sharing this. I wish I was there.
I’m a little confused, can anyone help please. My mum was a sober member of Alcoholics Anonymous for 37 years here in the UK,
she was to her core an atheist. When I asked her about AA’s stance on God, she said that it was an atheist community, but they talked about drawing strength from a higher power but that the higher power was the members of AA itself.
So my confusion is about the structure of AA in the States, has God somehow snuck in?
The AA was started by a couple of christians, so the intention from the start was to bring god into it, but these days it often depends on the group and where in the world it is, your mum probably just got lucky. Seth did an interview with a guy about this a couple of years ago if you're interested, it's called 12 steps and beyond if you want to search for it.
AA is based in religion. Ie belief in a higher power and here in Texas that would be god. Or they will shun you. Most of them anyway.
Now there are a couple of AA groups I have heard of that claim to be secular but I am not sure how they get around the whole higher power part of the creed.
Martin Joss
Thanks Martin and Rory, thanks for clearing that up for me. My mum isn’t alive anymore but I’d still be interested in watching that. I’ll look for it, hopefully it’s here on TH-cam.
And I’ll add a (maybe) funny story, she had always said paying lots of money to dispose of anyone’s carcass was a total waste of time and money. So when she died my Dad found an Undertaker that would collect and cremate her for $1,290. As a family we knew that she was gone, what was left was just a meat suit.
Fast forward 18 months and the crematorium contacted him asking if he was coming to collect her ashes. His classic reply was “just throw it in the rubbish bin, it’s just ash” needless to say they weren’t expecting that! 👍
Alex, you are in no position to talk about wisdom with the utter bullshit and condescending garbage you just spewed. Go back to your creationist channels and fuck off.
So excited to see this!!
What a treat!
You've made my Saturday night!
I think the greatest contribution you guys (and others lke you) make is standing out as a bulwark and united front we can all rally to. I am just a humble guy with my own problems but you guys give strength in a world dominated by religion and establishment.
Wish i was there
Secular Sobriaty, eh? I'd love to have a german chapter, but I am afraid the abreviation is kinda burned here.
"Hey, you want to come to Secular Sobriety with me?"
"Yes, let us all go to the SS meeting!"
"Are you coming to the SS meeting?"
"Jawohl, mein Kommandant."
@Feiner Fug Confucius says, "Man who keeps hand in pocket, can feel cocky all day."
I raised my hand. 😁 So much help from TH-cam videos! I'm at the point where I need to be reminded I'm not alone.
You are not alone buddy.
I find this whole thing fascinating. I was fortunate to avoid being raised by overzealous theistic parents and most of my friends and family are what I might call 'cultural Christians'. They might believe but its not something that shadows every moment of their lives. Live and let live. It was a surprise when I first encountered the idea of a 'atheist community' or that atheists often have traumatic beginnings dealing with religion. I'm glad that atheists experiencing difficulties receive the help they need. You guys (the Unholy Trinity and associated orgs) are great.
One of my go to's for an argument against god is to say that the god is supposed to be perfect and is supposed to be all knowing, and has a handle on everything that goes on within their church, and that the ministers are supposed to be a conduit for the god. Then when you listen to the ministers and they say things from the bible that is just demonstrably incorrect and against the truth, how does this god let that happen? Why are the ministers of your churches raping children if there is a god to stop them and advise them that what they are doing is wrong? Does your god not want to stop child rape? Is your god unable or unwilling?
Theyll make up some lame bullshit excuse like "free will", "god doesn't want robots", "god will judge them on judgement day".
What if parts of the bible only are from a Roman theatre sketch/play?!
You guys are doing great work! You 3 have really helped me in walking away from religion! I've had alot of doubts for years but after finding you guys it's really given me the courage to step out all together.
OMG you guys are back, sweet! 👍
I love you guys ✊🏻
I love these guys....
I would like to thank all of you secular speakers on TH-cam for the education and affirmation of my beliefs... you expressed eloquently the cold hard truth ..... and as i listen to some of the callers you're succeeding.... ty and may your message reach all around the world so the enslavement of future generations will be abolished..
thanks to all three of you, you three enable me to have a voice threw comments.
Geeze I miss Hitch...... And Douglas Adams
@kim burley I'm not worried because there is no such place.
Hitch, plus these guys, plus SamHarris, helped me find my way to sanity.
@David Anewman
*5
**Absence of
***Sanity
David Anewman integrity was never mentioned, do my know why you brought that up, but yes, hearing different opinions from different people let’s you get a larger view of your own beliefs and others, and helps you notice when you’ve been assuming something that might not be true, specifically religion in this case
David Anewman
san·i·ty
/ˈsanədē/
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noun
the ability to think and behave in a normal and rational manner; sound mental health.
"I began to doubt my own sanity"
That isn’t like integrity, that’s very different. Not sure why you skipped giving the definitions for both words unless you’re lying, or knowingly bullshitting right now.
Integrity is staying true to your morals and your word, sanity is being rational and mentally healthy. That’s apples and oranges, so again, why did you bring up integrity when there was no need to and no allusion to it?
I hope y'all expand these talk-event-things to the Atlanta area. I would give an appendage or two to meet you guys, but can't take several days off work to get there.
Those three guys are extremely gracious, and Seth is a hard worker behind the scenes, as evidence by his focus during setup.
I guess one argument I would fall back onto, though I like different arguments at different times is the con artist argument.
What other situation in real life do you tell someone they have to believe something unfalsifiable? Is there anything that is even close to that kind of dishonesty? Why do I have to do the work to prove it and not you? I'm not the one who believes in something unfalsifiable and I never tell someone that they should because that seems like a con frankly
@Stevo Devo as far as I'm aware, determinism isn't currently operating under scientific certainty either so wouldn't it be presuppositionalism vs presuppositionalism??
@@He.knows.nothing the laws of logic are like gravity. They work and we aren't presuming anything about them.
Maybe the cosmos that made our universe operates with lines of reasoning that we would consider fallacious. Like the cosmos is inherently circular but unstable. So if makes smaller universe like ours that aren't circular
The point is we can use them but can't explain them. But that's not a presumption. That would be like saying we are presuming gravity or mathematics. Bills aren't going to go away just because I don't believe math has a good explanation for the foundation of reasoning
@@He.knows.nothing also not everyone who uses laws of logic believes in determinism. It's an on going debate. But there are more reasons to think we have no free will than do. But that's not necessarily determinism. Maybe we have no free will but the events that happen in the future are random.
But this could just be us misunderstanding the randomness behind quantum physics.
So there is two subcategories of not having free will which have determinism under them and there is having free will which doesn't seem like the case that we do to most people
@@ninjaturtletyke3328 so you're saying that determinism is an emergent explanation for consciousness out of the laws of logic?
@@He.knows.nothing everything is an emergent explanation out of the laws of logic because the laws of logic is an emergent explanation out of reality. If reality was different then the laws of logic would be different.
Explanations do not actually exist. All of this knowledge is us just defining reality. Which is why we admit we can't know anything for certain because we are just trying to mimick reality in our heads. And we can only do that if we take the evidence where it leads. Which is why empirical data is the strongest kind of evidence. Scientific models give us a large body of evidence that can fail easily if they are wrong
19:11
The best people in the world tend to be those who are kind to animals. Thank you Seth for inspiring the community to donate to buy something that can help some people help lots of animals.
*Create a Better World by......GOING and Living VEGAN*
And no, Hitler was neither animal lover nor vegetarian. It never fails that some ignorant people always think it appropriate to push the 'Hitler was an animal lover' fallacy every time others like me show appreciation for the people who actually show respect for *all animals......including the innocent sentient individuals we grew up being culturally conditioned into believing deserved no respect* but instead were magically and logically inconsistently relegated to being worthy of only being killed, chopped up, and cooked as bacon or a drumstick. *The inculcated indifference to those innocent individuals needs to be eviscerated from our psyche by each of us.*
He said nothing about going vegan. That's just you trying to spread your beliefs.
@@Jett-King You come across like a fundamentalist since I never once claimed what you're insinuating.
Please go away unless you have something sensible to add to this thread.
@@LouisGedoyou're the one who took this awesome video about athiesm, and for no reason at all, plead for people to stop eating meat.
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What "ignorant people" is pushing Hitler you say? Is anyone other than you mentioning him in this comment section? If not Bringing up Hitler in your context is distasteful, disrespectful and lame. Hitlers ideology and actions cost the lives of many many millions of people and you to choose go focus on if he ate meat or not, if he kicked his dogs around or not? Speaks volumes on your actual compassion Louis.
Since you bring up animal welfare, what exactly do you do other than NOT eating meat? Do you ever contribute to things like the "HenryVan" yourself or do you seek out and help actual alive animals in distress? Or do you just push another vegan approved dish into your face and think you are somehow making a sufficient difference by doing that?
And btw,
@justPlainOl'CommonSense comment made perfect sense and you are just rude.
@@Jett-King You're the one who's being a ridiculous whiney troll and creating an issue because you got yourself all triggered.
These 3 and David Silverman, and Richard Dawkins would be the best speaker gathering ever! Y’all got to make it happen !
Thank you guys, very entertaining and always enlightening.
Wish this was an actual tour. I'd love to have been at a talk with all three of these guys.
In Tulsa. Was not able to attend. Was really annoyed that I could not make it.
Revisiting on lazy afternoon.
So right about the 12 steps. Edit :There were so many moments that just hit the spot for me.
Excellent! We want more! 😀
If this is the question and answer section, is the rest of your talk(s) posted somewhere?
Matt and Aron did so much for my journey out of faith and for my understanding of evolution that without them I would still be a Vatican II Catholic melding evolution and god while calling it Intelligent Design without knowing what it really is. (Just for clarity, my 12 year old definition of intelligent design was that god created everything billions of years ago including the ability for life forms to adapt and evolve over millions of years.)
Crying . Spirit . Forgiveness. Spark . It’s obvious that spirit is in us .
"Maybe they don't like the Undertaker" 😂😂😂 I nearly died...
We got three badasses on stage.
Please bring the unholy trinity back to Australia - I didn’t know about it the first time around and only found out about when it popped into my TH-cam suggested video feed.
I'm a huge fan of matt and never knew about his patreon or twitch. Can anyone tell me where to find him and the rest.
I laughed, cried, and contemplated in equal(ish) measure. Joe bless you, ramen!
Where can we see a calendar of Aron’s appearances???
😊😊😊🥰🥰 I know what to listen until I blissfully fall asleep ❤❤❤ love u guys!!!
Aron Ra is so brutally honest, it is amazing to see
I can’t find anything on TH-cam, or all of google, for This Is Normal, the guys from the Netherlands or nada holmz. Anybody got a link for them or der videos?
+1
th-cam.com/video/zEnWw_lH4tQ/w-d-xo.html
Their dynamic is awesome. I love these guys.
Are u guys speaking at the convention in november in san antonio??
Thank you. That was brilliant ❤
He called Aron The Undertaker! 😂
I laughed, learned and loved so much of this hour❤
You are worthy of the title.
When are you guys going to come to Europe? Preferably Scandinavia. As in Denmark, where I live. Man, that would be cool.
I teared up at 21:10 when Seth spoke about his fur babies.
Videos like these should strengthen a person's faith
I cant find the "This is Normal" TH-cam channel. Anyone have a link?
What a beautiful interaction. GO.
So glad to hear jim is an AXP regular. He is sharp!