If I was an escaping criminal and looked in my rear view mirror to see a squad car pull that kind of drift, I'd just pull over, I've seen enough initial D to know I'm screwed lol
It’s common. A hot call comes out and you’re moving fast. It becomes all gas, no breaks, and the utmost precision when steering. You drive these vehicles so long (my crown Victoria) that you feel when it begins to break traction, so instead of breaking, you can ease up on the gas instead.
I've owned a couple Vics and they aren't the most powerful cars by any means but they are probably one of the more fun cars to throw around corners. There's something about throwing a 4000lb sedan into a power slide that's just awesome.
My mom was a CHP Dispatcher/Matron (uniformed) from 1970 into the 1980's. I graduated High School in '75 so my whole adolescence was spent around CHP officers. After graduating College in '79 I went to the Police Academy and have been in various Law Enforcement jobs ever since. Riding in those late 1960, early '70 CHP cars was exciting. They were all Big Block 440 Magnum, Coronets and Polaras at the time. My first Patrol Car and training was in a '73 Plymouth Satellite w/318 "police package" with oversized radiator, drive train, brakes and 12 Bolt Dana rear end. Learning to "throw" the vehicle into a spin and then regain control was a thrill. Now, with ESC you don't know how much of the Driving is skill or technology. I just know that throwing a 4,200 pound Plymouth sideways and trying to regain control teaches you real quick what to do and especially what NOT to do. My current Patrol Vehicle is a Ford Explorer, but it's about 7 years old and doesn't have any ESC. Our Highway Patrol has retired most of their MOPARs and Fords to use the Explorer. I still worry about "rollover" in the top heavy Explorer compared to the wide bodied Crown Vic's and Chargers (and of course my "old Satellite!). I'd love to see ESC in all passenger cars before my 5 grandchildren begin driving...
Personally, I mostly agree... But I want my children/grandchildren to learn to drive on a non-ABS, non-traction controlled, standard trans, basic, basic, basic car. That way, like you mentioned, they can learn what to do if in a slide, and what NOT to do to avoid a slide. ( I also live in the cold, snowy interior of Canada, so we have much more of a chance of sliding during the winter months. ) But I would rather some of these other ( often idiot ) drivers to be using said electronic controls when they are on the same roads as my kids/grandkids.
This is one of the reasons that killed the Crown Vic, Ford didn't want to invest in stability control. But lack of Makes the crown vic pretty fun to be honest.
This is why I liked owning a pick up truck that didn't have esc or traction control... with no weight on the rear, you could break the rear end loose and really have some fun.... and you had to know how to feel what the vehicle was doing to keep in under control even if you were trying to have a little fun
Crown Vic still lives in here in SoCal! Lapd and the la county sheriffs department still have plenty of crown Victorias left in service! While they are not pursuit rated the sheriffs do best the crap out of them when responding to emergency calls
That drifting Crown Vic with all the CHP equipment on it is one hell of a sight. Seing an officer pull that type of manoeuver while I'm trying to get away, I'd just pull over.
Didn’t occur to me that this was a training video for police officers until he said “do not drive it, remove it from service and turn it in for repairs”
Antonio Monetti because Chevy was making all wheel drive and front wheel drive cars and that was a high demand I guess and Ford wasn't willing to switch the vics to front wheel so they decided to stop making them which is sad, because a lot of people get good use out of them
Maybe it was a possibility that the design of the Vic wouldn't allow for FWD? I'm just throwing ideas out there, I don't know either. But the Vic was a gas guzzler for sure. A lot of cab companies stopped using Vics and went to the Camry, Prius, and Explorer. That's what you see here in Chicago.
Everyone always seems to forget about tires. It's like they think as long as there's some rubber wrapped around the rims, it's perfect to go. Getting a good set of tires for your car is the best possible move you can do for the money if you care about your car's overall performance. It's the only true direct part that controls your car's acceleration, braking, and cornering capabilities.
Traction control in Fords really does work. When i lived in the snow i would flip the switch and be able ti ride on frozen streets just fine. The o e time i merged on the highway and forgot to flip it on, literally did about four full donuts before i came to a stop and fishtailed out of it. I miss my bouncy explorer!
You otta check out their recruiting vehicle. It's outstanding. Great wrap on the car. White SUV's and cars are hard to spot on the road when your traveling too fast.
So much for speeding deterrence, Mr. Sneaky Popo, the tax collector is more like it. Those all white cruisers are mainly for commercial vehicle enforcement anyway.
Are they? Explain why most vehicles that are pulled over by a polar bear are not commercial vehicles? Thats like saying a moto cop only pulls over motorcycles....and we all know thats not true.
ricecakeFTW A cop is a cop, they'll pull over any offender. But the all white cruisers are specifically for nabbing commercial offenders, the all white is harder for truck drivers to spot than the black and whites.
BecauseICanTBH Yeah, I've done that and the light turns on saying they're off. Punch the gas and it still cuts power midway through a drift in the snow. The worst part is getting stuck and not being able to power your way out. It's a 2012 GMC, wish I would've gotten a Dodge.
In my 2007 Pontiac G5, clicking the handbrake up one tick would do it. In my 2009 Pontiac G8 and 2015 Fiat 500 it has a button next to the shifter. But if yours doesn't do any of that, you could try pulling the fuse
StalePhish I've tried all of that. I even pulled all the ABS fuses like some forums recommended. An HP Tune was done too. I'd guess that the torque management system is still fully engaged.. That's the only thing left that I can think of.
For ideal and optimal pursuit performance, simply press the "Stability Control" button to turn it off and your ready to roll. To cripple your vehicle press the "Stability Control" button again.
Ford's ESC is too aggressive, You can get lift-off oversteer (at least with the taurus version) but the ESC will aggressively kick in and try to put you into the opposite guard rail.
The explorer is a more modern car and seems to handle better, because of AWD and traction control. BUT it’s still a narrow SUV, and much more top heavy, and easy to flip. The CVPI looks borderline impossible to flip. It’ll just spin out. I’d feel far more comfortable at high speeds in the Vic, although, you could argue at 60mph and under and in rain/ice, the Explorer is safer.
This is clearly aimed at beginners. Its says: Don't modulate the brake pedal, keep ABS activated. This is good advice for a beginner, but a good driver can threshold brake- that is, keep the brake pedal at the point right before ABS activation, because ABS only acts when it detects some minor lock-up. So while ABS significantly reduces lock up, threshold braking completely eliminates it. Also, it says to keep your hands at 10&2, 9&3, or 8&4. You should only hold the wheel at 9&3. Having your hands at 9&3 gives you better control of the steering, as you can keep your hands on the wheel for longer before having to go hand-over-hand in tight corners, gives the driver a better feel of the car, and allow the driver to straighten the wheel up faster, which can be helpful if you're sliding. Also, if you crash, its safer to have your hands at 9&3. If they're at 10&2, the airbag may force your arms into your face.
@@specialopsdave no im pretty sure its not that.. The crown vic has a body on frame..there is a real frame under that car.. the crown vic has the 4.6 modular one of the best engines ever made.. the ESC crap is nonsense why would i want my car to hit the breaks for me in a low traction situation? what if i need power to make a hill but he ESC keep applying breaks and cutting engine power? i have personally seen this happen...these systems were made to combat incompetent drivers.. all they do is hinder those with actual driving skills... just like gun laws, they only hurt the good people..
@@GoldStarBakery88 @Have We Learned Nothing But unlike laws, you can get rid of the restrictions that ESC imposes on you with an ECU tune Although the frame point is very fair, I love my steel ladder frames too
I used to work as a lot porter at a GM dealership in the service department and we would always get the CHP cars in there to get maintenance. We had fun with the lights, sirens and PA system.
My dealership services ambulances, and any times the lights and sirens are activated, their dispatchers get alerted. You’re lucky you didn’t get caught playing with that stuff.
I really wish there was a ESC system that only prevented understeer. Seriously would be the most useful for drivers more familiar and comfortable with oversteer characteristics, but still crippled by understeer.
ESC is not a fix for reckless driving but a supplement to capable and responsible driving in emergency situations (particularly hard swerves) to help keep the driver in control of the direction of travel.
The cop doing the crown vic driving is having the best day at work ever.
Yes are you right
NeverSurrender tru
Heck, I WOULD TOO!! 😂👌
@Allen S shut the fuck up
probably not a cop tho, more likely a professional driver to train police officers on how to out drive the bad guys
If I was an escaping criminal and looked in my rear view mirror to see a squad car pull that kind of drift, I'd just pull over, I've seen enough initial D to know I'm screwed lol
It’s common. A hot call comes out and you’re moving fast. It becomes all gas, no breaks, and the utmost precision when steering. You drive these vehicles so long (my crown Victoria) that you feel when it begins to break traction, so instead of breaking, you can ease up on the gas instead.
Go ice racing were all sideways at 100 into the turns
Only way to get away at this point is a straight road lol
Takutard.
GAS GAS GAS
That Crown Vic Drifting...legendary...
EggHead X9 Lol they should also do a burnout
Rear wheel drive is great for stunt driving.
The Crown Vic with full CHP gear drifting is one of the coolest things I've seen all year
That drifting Crown Vic is a beautiful thing
it is the best part of the video. the legend crown vic
So happy I own exactly that car, same color scheme and all
That explorer did not look half as cool as that vic did in the full on powerslide
Explorers are awesome. Just my opinion.
The explorer probably is awd giving it a lot of traction
@@thepeskyone Ford Police Interceptor Utility* and they suck in my opinion too many problems
@@samuelougrah4874 I said explorers in general :P
@@samuelougrah4874 the 1st and 2nd gen fpiu with the 3.7 are one of the most reliable police vehicles on the market
I've owned a couple Vics and they aren't the most powerful cars by any means but they are probably one of the more fun cars to throw around corners. There's something about throwing a 4000lb sedan into a power slide that's just awesome.
yup. get it sliding real nice up onto a sidewalk - you can take out a whole family.
kclm7 ever drive one on an old dirt road, it's the greatest thing ever. Especially if you can find a big area to do donuts.
I haven't done it with Vics, but I have with early 80s GM B bodies.
Nope, those are Mustangs
I owned a couple of Vic’s all former police cars now I have a explore and a Taurus police car both 2013 I prefer the Taurus much better
0:46 Look at the shift of inertia in the body roll, damn that Crown Vic powerslide was amazing!
7:37 "No system no matter how sophisticated can defy the laws of physics..." I love that, that made me smile
BK-201 haha
BK-201 yeah dude
PHYSICS WORKS!
I think what he was trying to say was
“Your car won’t save you if you’re stupid”
Utility Interceptor looks about as fun to drive as a minivan. God I miss my Panther. She gave her life for me. Hit head on by a truck, I walked away.
that's a truly remarkable story, "she gave her life for me"
My mom was a CHP Dispatcher/Matron (uniformed) from 1970 into the 1980's. I graduated High School in '75 so my whole adolescence was spent around CHP officers. After graduating College in '79 I went to the Police Academy and have been in various Law Enforcement jobs ever since. Riding in those late 1960, early '70 CHP cars was exciting. They were all Big Block 440 Magnum, Coronets and Polaras at the time. My first Patrol Car and training was in a '73 Plymouth Satellite w/318 "police package" with oversized radiator, drive train, brakes and 12 Bolt Dana rear end. Learning to "throw" the vehicle into a spin and then regain control was a thrill. Now, with ESC you don't know how much of the Driving is skill or technology. I just know that throwing a 4,200 pound Plymouth sideways and trying to regain control teaches you real quick what to do and especially what NOT to do. My current Patrol Vehicle is a Ford Explorer, but it's about 7 years old and doesn't have any ESC. Our Highway Patrol has retired most of their MOPARs and Fords to use the Explorer. I still worry about "rollover" in the top heavy Explorer compared to the wide bodied Crown Vic's and Chargers (and of course my "old Satellite!). I'd love to see ESC in all passenger cars before my 5 grandchildren begin driving...
How long did it take you to become a CHP officer? I am interested in joining.
Personally, I mostly agree... But I want my children/grandchildren to learn to drive on a non-ABS, non-traction controlled, standard trans, basic, basic, basic car. That way, like you mentioned, they can learn what to do if in a slide, and what NOT to do to avoid a slide. ( I also live in the cold, snowy interior of Canada, so we have much more of a chance of sliding during the winter months. ) But I would rather some of these other ( often idiot ) drivers to be using said electronic controls when they are on the same roads as my kids/grandkids.
Strangely, this advice may be applicable for Sim Racing as well, thanks!
1:08 Long Live the LEGEND !
Oversteer is best, Panther body is best.
0:59 "Copy 31, It looks like a speeder just flew by past me"
NFS Hot Pursuit 2??
This is one of the reasons that killed the Crown Vic, Ford didn't want to invest in stability control. But lack of Makes the crown vic pretty fun to be honest.
Now its SUV'S -_-
@@alphaares6027 On the field suvs beats sedans.
@@thepeskyone Sadly I can say that its true. It's just annoying to see the same ones around like Cuvs
Even if Crown Vic Countinue and Stil has Body over Frame Is too Heavy And Underpower
Yes, that is the very problem.
That was a pretty nice drift tbh
Everyone's gangsta... Until the cop starts drifting behind you.
Bet that guy was having the time of his life throwing that Explorer around the track, lmao.
What about the guy drifting the crown vic!
@@clayton8or Fuck yea!
That Crown Vic pulled some mad drift😏
Carry it with speed.
Street drifting 101 - officially sponsored by CHP
When the cop who was chasing you start drifting whit his Crown Vic: *INTENSE SCREAMING*
*eurobeat intensifies*
Alright buddy, I need you to take the the Explorer and hit the corner at 85. Now get out there!
I would love if my car acted like the Crown Vic. Who would want to get rid of drifting?? smh
Police would
This is why I liked owning a pick up truck that didn't have esc or traction control... with no weight on the rear, you could break the rear end loose and really have some fun.... and you had to know how to feel what the vehicle was doing to keep in under control even if you were trying to have a little fun
@@christopherrosas2738 yea thats true thanks to pickup trucks for existing
You can buy a crown vic bro
Crown Vic still lives in here in SoCal! Lapd and the la county sheriffs department still have plenty of crown Victorias left in service! While they are not pursuit rated the sheriffs do best the crap out of them when responding to emergency calls
That drifting Crown Vic with all the CHP equipment on it is one hell of a sight. Seing an officer pull that type of manoeuver while I'm trying to get away, I'd just pull over.
Drifting is slower than holding grip through the corner, so the cop drifting means you have a better chance of getting away lmao
@@specialopsdave Yeah but still
Crown Vic is and always will be the best cop car ever made. Change my mind.
🙌
The new chargers are faster
crown vic is best, but i like the dodge coronet 440
Definitely ONE of the best.
Such an intelligent mind wouldn't ever dare try and change it lol
that camera man must have been looking his shit! I mean I know CHP officers are hailed as the best drivers, but damn... That's allot of trust.
I love the amount a body roll the Crown Vic has it's so funny watching that boat of a car drift
I have to say, that test track looks like a lot of fun.
Didn’t occur to me that this was a training video for police officers until he said “do not drive it, remove it from service and turn it in for repairs”
I watched this video just to watch the Crown Vic get yeeted around every corner and I was not disappointed.
As the owner of an interceptor crown Vic I can say that losing traction in it is VERY FUN
The Crown Vic is infinitely times better than the Explorer. The Vic is the best car ever made
I swear if I could pick a cruiser I would pick a crown Vic because wouldn’t it be more fun to drift while chasing some one
If police were about fun before actually catching bad guys, they would do a pretty shitty job of doing either
Sooo can I try out my 08 crown vic on that course😏
Antonio Monetti because Chevy was making all wheel drive and front wheel drive cars and that was a high demand I guess and Ford wasn't willing to switch the vics to front wheel so they decided to stop making them which is sad, because a lot of people get good use out of them
Police now use the new Ford Taurus.
Maybe it was a possibility that the design of the Vic wouldn't allow for FWD? I'm just throwing ideas out there, I don't know either. But the Vic was a gas guzzler for sure. A lot of cab companies stopped using Vics and went to the Camry, Prius, and Explorer. That's what you see here in Chicago.
checkerace50 true true I mean with a huge car like that it probably would be rather difficult
One reason they stopped making the Crown Vic was that it didn't have ESC which became mandatory for 2012.
That vic looks clean
this is badass
This actually explains it pretty damm good.
Honestly even understeering looks fun with the crown vic
5:04 - I can see and feel his frustration.
1:00 that's why my local PD still uses these old crown vics
It is far more important that a driver know the limits of their vehicle rather than rely on a computer to keep their vehicle on the road.
okay that's cool and all. but that vic looked sick in the powerslide
Why did I watch this entire video
hahaha same
I do ask the same thing to myself lol... why why... haha
I did it for work.
Because of the badass drifting CVPI.
ESC, TC and ABS are only as good as your current set of tires. There are no electronic aids for laziness and stupidity.
Everyone always seems to forget about tires. It's like they think as long as there's some rubber wrapped around the rims, it's perfect to go. Getting a good set of tires for your car is the best possible move you can do for the money if you care about your car's overall performance. It's the only true direct part that controls your car's acceleration, braking, and cornering capabilities.
phill80 Hahaha! So true..
Great training video. Thanks for producing it.
I did not know the explorers could take corners like that, I'm impressed
0:48 put on some Eurobeat!
Traction control in Fords really does work. When i lived in the snow i would flip the switch and be able ti ride on frozen streets just fine. The o e time i merged on the highway and forgot to flip it on, literally did about four full donuts before i came to a stop and fishtailed out of it. I miss my bouncy explorer!
My dad raced, he taught me to let off and gas out of the curve. It really works and you start to feel just like a race car driver!
Big bad Crown Vics am I right?
That all-white CHP Ford Explorer looks sharp!
You otta check out their recruiting vehicle. It's outstanding. Great wrap on the car. White SUV's and cars are hard to spot on the road when your traveling too fast.
So much for speeding deterrence, Mr. Sneaky Popo, the tax collector is more like it. Those all white cruisers are mainly for commercial vehicle enforcement anyway.
Looks sharp.. But it plows like a fucking tractor! ahah
Are they? Explain why most vehicles that are pulled over by a polar bear are not commercial vehicles? Thats like saying a moto cop only pulls over motorcycles....and we all know thats not true.
ricecakeFTW A cop is a cop, they'll pull over any offender. But the all white cruisers are specifically for nabbing commercial offenders, the all white is harder for truck drivers to spot than the black and whites.
P71 all day long
I fucking hate how I can't fully turn off the ESC or TC in my truck. Bye random off-roading adventures..
BecauseICanTBH Yeah, I've done that and the light turns on saying they're off. Punch the gas and it still cuts power midway through a drift in the snow. The worst part is getting stuck and not being able to power your way out. It's a 2012 GMC, wish I would've gotten a Dodge.
That's very true..
In my 2007 Pontiac G5, clicking the handbrake up one tick would do it. In my 2009 Pontiac G8 and 2015 Fiat 500 it has a button next to the shifter. But if yours doesn't do any of that, you could try pulling the fuse
StalePhish I've tried all of that. I even pulled all the ABS fuses like some forums recommended. An HP Tune was done too. I'd guess that the torque management system is still fully engaged.. That's the only thing left that I can think of.
mncarguy lol my dads 06 dodge doesn't have traction control at all lol
For ideal and optimal pursuit performance, simply press the "Stability Control" button to turn it off and your ready to roll. To cripple your vehicle press the "Stability Control" button again.
Ford's ESC is too aggressive, You can get lift-off oversteer (at least with the taurus version) but the ESC will aggressively kick in
and try to put you into the opposite guard rail.
The explorer is a more modern car and seems to handle better, because of AWD and traction control. BUT it’s still a narrow SUV, and much more top heavy, and easy to flip. The CVPI looks borderline impossible to flip. It’ll just spin out. I’d feel far more comfortable at high speeds in the Vic, although, you could argue at 60mph and under and in rain/ice, the Explorer is safer.
I'm amazed that these don't roll over.
Most cars are equipped with some form of anti-roll bar.
*sees crown vic*
REMEMBER WHAT THEY TOOK FROM YOU
This is clearly aimed at beginners. Its says:
Don't modulate the brake pedal, keep ABS activated. This is good advice for a beginner, but a good driver can threshold brake- that is, keep the brake pedal at the point right before ABS activation, because ABS only acts when it detects some minor lock-up. So while ABS significantly reduces lock up, threshold braking completely eliminates it.
Also, it says to keep your hands at 10&2, 9&3, or 8&4. You should only hold the wheel at 9&3. Having your hands at 9&3 gives you better control of the steering, as you can keep your hands on the wheel for longer before having to go hand-over-hand in tight corners, gives the driver a better feel of the car, and allow the driver to straighten the wheel up faster, which can be helpful if you're sliding. Also, if you crash, its safer to have your hands at 9&3. If they're at 10&2, the airbag may force your arms into your face.
I’m a 2:30 & 9:25 guy, myself.
Thanks for the video! Very informative!
ESP is a fantastic feature for people that really should not be behind the wheel.
When you are running from the police but you see the cruiser behind you drifting the corners.
Also that’s the crown Vic is rwd and the suc is awd that makes a big difference ...
Sorry officer I wasn't speeding
I was just performing aggressive throttle applications
Thank you for the great explanation
“Never pump or modulate the brake pedal under ABS operation”
Yeah, decades of motor memory say that’s not going to happen.
think ill take the Crown Vic
Because you're not a cop, and you, just like me, value fun over control and stability.
@@specialopsdave no im pretty sure its not that..
The crown vic has a body on frame..there is a real frame under that car..
the crown vic has the 4.6 modular one of the best engines ever made..
the ESC crap is nonsense why would i want my car to hit the breaks for me in a low traction situation? what if i need power to make a hill but he ESC keep applying breaks and cutting engine power? i have personally seen this happen...these systems were made to combat incompetent
drivers..
all they do is hinder those with actual driving skills...
just like gun laws, they only hurt the good people..
@@GoldStarBakery88 @Have We Learned Nothing But unlike laws, you can get rid of the restrictions that ESC imposes on you with an ECU tune
Although the frame point is very fair, I love my steel ladder frames too
@@specialopsdave Touche
1:00 you know this guy grew up on Dukes of Hazzard.
very nice explained, even for germans like me. Now I understand the esc and traction contr. very nice vid an thanks! :)
crown vic still one of the best cars out there. trying to say negative things about it, when it been around for many of years and never had a prob.
1staircavalry They used to have gas tank issues.
Needs new v8 with a v8 ecoboost and awd
@@katynunnery6254 Eco boost is proper gay
33 years, but it actually did have a few problems.
@@WalMartPlus69 fixed with tank shields and fire suppression.
Had to have been the stig driving that crown vic.
Very informative.
Loved it ❤✌
I used to work as a lot porter at a GM dealership in the service department and we would always get the CHP cars in there to get maintenance. We had fun with the lights, sirens and PA system.
My dealership services ambulances, and any times the lights and sirens are activated, their dispatchers get alerted. You’re lucky you didn’t get caught playing with that stuff.
Some locations:
California Highway Patrol Academy, West Sacramento
Donner Pass...
I wanna see more of the Vic
I felt like I was taking a class
dude tht drifting crown vic is AWESOME
Really informative and higly useful for motor enthusiasts
I really wish there was a ESC system that only prevented understeer. Seriously would be the most useful for drivers more familiar and comfortable with oversteer characteristics, but still crippled by understeer.
man those fpiu's look so good
Nothing can change the fact that the crown vic was a beast of a car.
Thankyou so much...😊😊🙏🙏
Very good informative video
Honestly, SUVs will never live up to the classic days of police chases with sedans.
both cars were definitely sold at auction as "lightly used, not abused, sold as is, no refunds"
lmao
That powerslide was sick 😃😃
I love how the crown vic just takes all that shit in stride
I passed this test when I did my training it was really fun
Oversteer? Nah, we call that drifting in anime.
Man, that looks fun!!
These boys had way too much fun at work today...
omg these sharp turns
Disliked, only because this will keep raising price on vics. Sidenote, my first car was a 2011 Crown Vic formerly used by the CHP
0:59 "31 County" "I copy 31" "Turning on a speeder that just blew by me"
You know what's interesting is how the ESC is implemented in traffic breaks.
The guy in the crown Vic in the oversteer section is a driver from fast and furious
I'd like to use this for driver training. Who would I talk to? Great video!
crown vic will always remain best police car
8:30 that Cruiser should be called the Tie-Fighter 😂
عداك العيب ي الفكتوريا
ESC is not a fix for reckless driving but a supplement to capable and responsible driving in emergency situations (particularly hard swerves) to help keep the driver in control of the direction of travel.