I own a c400x and i'm switching to a ce04. Despite the small difference on paper after test riding the CE04 for one day made my c400x feel like an old crappy bike after that. The acceleration feels much stronger than what you would expect.
Since I have measured on my own several scooters of the 300-400cc category and I've also checked lots more from magazine tests etc, this C400X is way faster than it should be. Trap speed at 1/4 mile of 130+ km/h is close to an old TMax. Although I haven't measured one myself, I checked 2 tests from bike magazines and both trapped 122 km/h, which is still very rapid for the category and makes much more sense. Then I noticed from your video here, that rpms thoughout this run were pretty high for a stock drivetrain. 6900 at 70 km/h already, 7300 from 95 (full power) all the way to the top speed. My guess is that the specific one, accelerates as it has an aftermarket variator. Either way, very very fast. Hope the owner enjoys riding it, very nice all around scooter (although I prefer the gt).
beautiful bikes! 206 and 231 Kg is so fat for a small engine! have you tried strong braking with the CE-04? does it brake well? LOL after 1 mile 5 kilometers lower range hahaha
7.5 seconds is very good! Did not expect this, especially because of the high weight. The best my Xmax 300 did was 8.7 seconds gps confirmed, I weigh over 100kg though😅. If you could get your hands on one, you should try it out for yourself and make a video.
Sieht so aus das es bis 70-80 viel stärker zieht als drüber. Es muss eine Softwaresache sein. Ich bin eine Honda Fanboy, aber ich würde so ein BMW Roller schon gerne fahren.
Dass dem CE 04 obenrum die Puste ausgeht, hat auch den simplen Grund, dass er nur "einen Gang" (also eine feste Übersetzung) hat, und überhalb ca. 80 km/h ist die Drehmomentkurve eben nicht mehr so füllig wie darunter. Ich komme vom C650 (64Nm) auf den CE 04, und selbst im Vgl. zum 650er fühlt sich der CE bis ca. 80 teils deutlich kräftiger an...
@@mototop_ Yeah, I understand the reason. It's more suitable for urban mobility. Then, smaller is better. Besides: the C evolution didn't sell very well to put it mildly.
Von 0 auf 100 gibt es wenig Unterschiede sind die meisten größeren Maschinen ähnlich. Ich meine das du auf die Stärken und Schwächen der unterschiedlichen Motorkonzepte eingehst. Und diese darstellst mit Messwerten. Zum Beispiel der 3 Zylinder mit der starken Mitte und und und ...
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I own a c400x and i'm switching to a ce04. Despite the small difference on paper after test riding the CE04 for one day made my c400x feel like an old crappy bike after that. The acceleration feels much stronger than what you would expect.
Right, and if the range is enough for you then it's perfect
Don't do it.
I ended up buyin it, never been so happy with a bike.
@@matteocifellibet u hate it now
100%
Since I have measured on my own several scooters of the 300-400cc category and I've also checked lots more from magazine tests etc, this C400X is way faster than it should be. Trap speed at 1/4 mile of 130+ km/h is close to an old TMax. Although I haven't measured one myself, I checked 2 tests from bike magazines and both trapped 122 km/h, which is still very rapid for the category and makes much more sense. Then I noticed from your video here, that rpms thoughout this run were pretty high for a stock drivetrain. 6900 at 70 km/h already, 7300 from 95 (full power) all the way to the top speed. My guess is that the specific one, accelerates as it has an aftermarket variator. Either way, very very fast. Hope the owner enjoys riding it, very nice all around scooter (although I prefer the gt).
@@punto1410 it was fully stock
Thank you - excellent idea and production!
thanks :)
Great Job on the video Bro. Yeah Good comparison between the bikes. Man the CE04 is a far out looking bike. Anyway, big Thumbs Up👍👍👍
Thanks Bro :) How you like the overview in the end? Is it good or not?
Yeah very good overview at the end and good to have the colors there as well. Good stuff
Good acceleration when its on the road, and not in the repair shop going on 49 days
in another comment to day you wrote 44 days.... seems like you're spam :)
@@mototop_ have u ever heard of a typeo? From 11-18-23 to 01-4- 24 - = 48 days
@@DavidJongibo you're funny :)
beautiful bikes! 206 and 231 Kg is so fat for a small engine!
have you tried strong braking with the CE-04? does it brake well?
LOL after 1 mile 5 kilometers lower range hahaha
Brakes are working verry well. Calipers are from JJuan.
When they make one that is happy crusing up to 140kph-150kph I will consider. But until then I stay with my tmax.
@@joshgolo I'm staying with my perfect forza 350 until honda release a forza 500,I will be the first person to buy it
7.5 seconds is very good! Did not expect this, especially because of the high weight. The best my Xmax 300 did was 8.7 seconds gps confirmed, I weigh over 100kg though😅.
If you could get your hands on one, you should try it out for yourself and make a video.
yep, that would be nice :)
XMAX is 100% more reliable. My CE-04 has been in the repair shop for 48 days now
@@DavidJongibo 147kph at revs 8369
Sieht so aus das es bis 70-80 viel stärker zieht als drüber. Es muss eine Softwaresache sein. Ich bin eine Honda Fanboy, aber ich würde so ein BMW Roller schon gerne fahren.
Jo, irgendwann greift dann die Elektronik ein leider.
Bmw c evolution the best
@@francescomarano8167 at higher speeds the C Evolution is a little bit faster
@@mototop_ my c Evolution 16kwh upgrade top
Dass dem CE 04 obenrum die Puste ausgeht, hat auch den simplen Grund, dass er nur "einen Gang" (also eine feste Übersetzung) hat, und überhalb ca. 80 km/h ist die Drehmomentkurve eben nicht mehr so füllig wie darunter.
Ich komme vom C650 (64Nm) auf den CE 04, und selbst im Vgl. zum 650er fühlt sich der CE bis ca. 80 teils deutlich kräftiger an...
the big difference is the autonomy of the 400x, space under the bigger seat, only in this regard I think it's more worth it...
yep, maybe :)
No the biggest difference is the price 😉
I liked the C evolution far better. I would have liked an upgrade of that design instead of the CE-04.
@@hermanstokbrood now BMW release the CE-02....even smaller than CE-04 :)
@@mototop_ Yeah, I understand the reason. It's more suitable for urban mobility. Then, smaller is better. Besides: the C evolution didn't sell very well to put it mildly.
@@hermanstokbrood the number of C Evolution bikes produced was fixed in advance
What about c400gt ?
Will be just slightly slower
Go with Yamaha XMAX. 100% better bike
Pun gas?
apa sebenarnya maksud Anda?
At highspeed it lost about 4% in 1 km. 🤨
That's normal for electric vehicles 😅
@@mototop_ Yeah, it stil is and probably will not change any time soon 🙃
My CE-04 hasn't lost any battery usage, because it's been in the repair shop for 48 days.
@@DavidJongibo That's very bad to hear. Fortunately it's winter (at least where I live)
Hey mach doch mal ein Vergleich von 1,2,3,4 Zylinder Motoren mit ähnlichen Hubraum. Wäre interessant welche wann am besten durchzieht.
meinst du Rollon test oder Beschleunigung von 0 an?
@@mototop_ von 0 bis 80 und so weiter
Von 0 - 140 wäre interessant.
@@carsten9838 warum 140?
Von 0 auf 100 gibt es wenig Unterschiede sind die meisten größeren Maschinen ähnlich. Ich meine das du auf die Stärken und Schwächen der unterschiedlichen Motorkonzepte eingehst. Und diese darstellst mit Messwerten. Zum Beispiel der 3 Zylinder mit der starken Mitte und und und ...
not bad.
you mean the scooters? :)
@@mototop_ they look really good. I got my eyes on the CE04 one day.
@@ismaelhall3990 don't buy it. Mine has been in the repair shop now for 48 days
if the ce 04 had more power like 98 100 hp well i'll be good😅
Oh yeah 😅
Electric = 0 emotion
It has E-motion 😉
@dagiax...:
Riding the CE 04 after 11 ICE-bikes (50-1000ccm): Absolutely NO!
@@Romiman1as in, you agree, no emotion, or you feel different and it does bring out emotion?
No to "0 emotion".
FUN also being an emotion, the CE 04 even brings out way MORE emotion than many ICE-bikes...
Electric = 48 days in the repair shop, and counting
They made that 400x as ugly as possible 👍🏻
it's a matter of taste :)
same as you
So slow for a 350cc😢
what you expect from a 350cc scooter?
you wanted a 350 cc motorcycle to go 200km! I don't know what world you live in...
@H3LLRAISER1000 hahahaha.. come here in the philippines..you'll see what kind of a world you live in. Do some research first. Oh my geez..
Are you 12?
For 350ccm this is good.