BMW CE 04 is the best, fastest & most fun commuter available today.
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Would have never imagined Simon Pegg's dad would be such an excellent reviewer
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I had a C Evolution in which I rode for 23 thousand miles (37000 km) before a deer prematurely sent it to the recyclers. It was a fantastic bike that I even preferred to ride it over my K1600GTL (which is still running with 75k miles). As far as BMW electric vehicles, I had the Active E, then an i3 BEV then the C Evolution. Those three were very reliable vehicles. Maintenance was pretty much hooking up a computer for software updates and that was it. Had to buy tires, they are consumables. Brakes? Never changed brake pads in over 200k miles of electric driving/riding. My i3 with over 109k miles still has original pads in great condition, as are the disks. Regen braking is a genius of engineering. Despite the price premium of these EVs, the economic breakeven point compared to a similarly equiped gas vehicle is reached rather quickly, especially in these days of expensive petrol. I could go on and on but here is the quick rundown on EVs in general: if your use case (commuting, fun riding, etc) fits the capabilities of an EV, and you see yourself having to use the EV a lot, then get the EV. If you won't use an electric vehicle for whatever reason, then you won't recoup that price premium. If you end up using an electric vehicle all the time, you'll end up enjoying the ride quality while saving money for operation and maintenance which goes into your fancy cafe spending account. Great review on the CE 04. I may look for one.
Consider putting up Euro and /or sterling prices for comparison the bike show will expand to vast audience . excellent review
It just looks gorgeous!
Great video and really considering one of these; thanks 🙏
This video is fantastic and super helpful, thank you!
Nice Report, as a matter of fact I drove this thing for a week and I have some additions to your findings.
First of all I so totally agree with the downpoints you mentioned - for a very expensive toy the materials are crap and the optional case ? Boy oh boy, who ever designed this should be punished corporally every morning bevore breakfast - it even steals the second seat - unbarable.
I found the driving noise rather annoying and it's that cheap belt making a very high-pitched singing sound that enerves you after a few days.
The ride for me (1,93m) was rather uncomfortable but at my height you feel very lucky if you find something that fits your size (my seat on the Honda Africa Twin is raised 20cm).
The good things are really good and you forgot to mention the best feature of them all: IT HAS REVERSE ! And this is very unique and oh how much better your park and handle your quarter ton Moped in small areas with this reverse. I tried some speedtests in reverse but it's actually really scary to give it the full beans in that direction ;-)
Finally it did not stick with me, the price was too steep and the pain in my back after a week reminded me to wait for a more suitable model.
It is not the one to fall in love with, but it has some + in some -. :) Here is my test ride: th-cam.com/video/ImR74bXMOjs/w-d-xo.html
Please dont buy bmw if $15k is too steep for you. Bmw's are for wealthy people
Great review; thanks for posting.
I'm a jewelry designer and I completely agree with you about the aesthetics. They could have done better but the engineering makes it all worth getting one of these if you have the money.
I like the top box.
Yes, I think it helps with the overall massing and proportions, especially with the rear end. The economical box shape goes well with the horizontal and vertical lines in the side view.
Then you would appreciate plywood.
Yea I could afford the top box!
Ótimo conteúdo...
Muito bem explicado.
Great review! I've pre-ordered one here in the US, and cannot wait for it to arrive.
I prefer the old Porsche behind this assault on your senses.
@@bobklee2397 ?
Great review once again!
This is genius from BMW and im not a bmw fan usually , having been a 1980s London despatch rider i can see a huge market for this in major cities for deliveries , love the box makes it so practical . Want one .
All other scooter have much more room then this one. My scooter have maybe twice the space, and look 100 times better. when you stop for going into a store. you have nowhere to put the helmet?
Look like it lost a 60 liter trunk from the back. It is not functional at all… And look dorky and stupid. Cud at lest be functional, but not even that.
@@Gismo3333 nowhere to put the helmet....I guess you didn't watch the video then....just comment like troll who not watch
Price might restrict it from being used as a delivery vehicle.
is it just me or this is like listening to david attenborough but instead of wildlife with bikes?
Love it :)
I find it very disgusting nothing to love here nobody looked at the cost to human life these electric vehicles are causing just listen to The Propaganda and take it that we're doing a bit to save the Planet and to hell with those poor people in those third world countries unbelievable
Love it, want it, will get it ...
Awesome video, well presented, great real life use examples and well explained
Thanks for your video Matt, good on you I got a few chuckles out of today's review. These have actually arrived in Australia for sale I have noted. The rear wheel looks like it came off a Citroen of the 1960's
Rear wheel, '60s Citroen. Funny!
It has an industrial look and looks like something out of Westworld.
Love the look.
I test rode one when they first hit the market here. I was amazed how agile and fun it was. I had purchased a 2022 1250RT, so buying one was not in the cards at the time. Keep thinking about it for local rides in town here.
I love BMW motorcycles... and this stuff is so neat!
BMW Motorrad popular in THAILAND, especially in Bangkok. But, also on Phuket island and in northern Chiang Mai. Here's our BMW Motorrad F900R review. This Motorrad is made in Thailand. Also Ducati, Harley-Davidson and TRIUMPH motorcycles are built in Thailand not far from Bangkok. th-cam.com/video/ktZEIvKTfTw/w-d-xo.html
I had the c Evo as a courtesy bike and loved it, this thing gets me very excited. I must admit though being from Manchester I think the solid wheels are a terrible idea from a security stand point. With something that expensive I'd want to be able to chain it to something secure.
It's so expensive, thieves can't afford to steal it.
BMW could track it..... If it has safety systems like if crash detected it can call police automatically !!
Throw the chain around the rear shock.
Another great review and honesty 👍Can you put dollars and uk pound apart from Rand in your reviews? Thanks 👍
I like it.
Good report
Great review Mate 👏👌
Amazing review 👍
Thorough description, attractive scenarios, irony and competence, this video seems to me very…felt!
I bought mine right yesterday and I’m excited like a kid!
IMHO, there’s one word to correctly and completely describe this vehicle:
“pure unconventionality”.
If someone’s looking for the usual idea of “electric scooter” here, he/she may be disappointed.
Its strength is in its extreme peculiarity.
Greetings from Rome 👋🏻
It are two words.
even if the storage box was turned 90* that might look better and perhaps keeps items from rolling left or right which messes with handling.
8500 would be a max price. But 12k, just can't do it.
I'll stick to my honda forza 300. A great machine.
Yes stick with your Honda you are doing more for the planet if you believe in the carbon rubbish never mind about the slave labour to provide all of those PEOPLE with these beautiful electric vehicles that make massive pollution with their dirty blood batteries....people wake up
Fantastic, thx Matt!... not for SA yet indeed, Eishkom is still going strong with daily loadshedding....
It’s criminal you don’t have more views/subs than you do.
Great quality content.
You can see he has a real passion for motorbikes 👍
Are form and function even that different in the end?
I agree about the storage. They could have mimicked the front fairing design and it would have looked much better. The rear wheel leaves room for customization. Almost no chance I would ride it regardless.
it's a beautiful design
I agree with all you say, from a Honda Maxi Scooter, Harley. and Indian motorcycle driver , Florida
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Question, I live on a farm and have about 1,5 klms off gravel to travel on. How would the belt drive cope 😅with the dust?
i never thought it would take so long for the future to catch up with the past. design engineers have been designing futuristic transportation for the past 100 years. its nice to finally live in the future, that was designed, planned; and perfected so long ago.
An absolute amazing machine. I purchased same color. Terrific ride
Color?
@@brokenrecord3523 I think it’s a grey color tone. Lots of fun
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I'm not worried one iota about the appearance side of things. That's exactly the set up I'd go for. I have a CB500F set up like that,I don't carry pillions. It looks easy to keep clean.
This is the way
NO, mate. The back wheel RESONATES with the functional aesthetic. The back side is all about pushing and yes, it might be basic but its unadorned demeanor promises nothing but push. Am I wrong? I haven't ridden it. Now, color!?! Nah. It's antithetical to it's no-nonsense design. HOW MUCH is it? I want one....I think.
Anyway, I don't like plastic either but I LOVE range, bro. I don't like heavy weight but I LOVE being glued to the road. Marvelous articulation of these trade offs, thank you sir.
Love the cuts (edits), love the sensibility and the humor, dude. Got my sub.
Constantly riding 100 kph. In winter around 5 degrees Celsius. What should be its max range ?
I have to commute 102 km single ride. Work 9 hours and go back. Charging it at work. Could it be done ?
Agreed, a simple gray oval hubcap covering both bolt sides of that back wheel would have been an easy step to improve the looks a ton.
A hubcap on a scooter? How about just don't make the wheel ugly?
@@brokenrecord3523 im good witb that option as well 👍🤣
Do you mind saying where you are, at time of filming this video? Thank you.
Is the box sold on subscription like their heated seats?
Can we place have a review of the Super Soco TC Max?
Shame topbox voids carrying a adult sized pillion, I thought it would I also changed seat to the straight version with no hump but you loose heating and it’s much more uncomfortable. The only fix will be get the Shad box option which uses common sense and mounts behind the seat. Now I have to buy the shad mounting kit and try to retro fit the bmw box since I bought it already, bike is great and I am coming from a 2019 Goldwing DCT.
Where’s the Tron track?
I love the look as is. All the complaints that it needs color or something is just personal preference. As is, is all i need. That being said, this scooter is limited to a niche customer only. For most americans, this is a weekend toy to go to walmart or to pick up prescriptions at CVS or Walgreens. This scooter could be EPIC if they did just 2 things for the next future model. #1 Increase milage to double the current amount, that means a bigger battery of course, and so what? Just do it. #2 the charge time needs to be 1hour maximum So upgrade the batteries to the best fast charge type and have the connection inout and outputs to use fast charger stations like at the tesla charge locations. Do these 2 things, and you have the greatest scooter of all time. Until then i cant purchase this in its current iteration. The one and only exception to that rule is if for example, my daily car is old and i can tell and feel that something in it will break down soon. This would be the only reason i would purchase this now, is to use as a emergency vehicle to get to work once my old car that is on its last legs gives out, and while its in the shoo being repaired i can use this scooter in a pinch to go to work. So i take it back what i said, i would purchase this scooter as just as an emergency backup vehicle for when or if my daily driver car breaks down. And i would get the benefits of the uses i gave earlier about weekend toy use also. But most likely i wont purchase this even for the emergency back up vehicle reason. Because this costs $13,000 in US. And i took my car in to see how much it costs to fix all the problems, and it will cost $2,500 to fix all the things that my car has wrong with it now. All that being said, im sure in Europe this will be like the Cadillac dream scooter of that part of the world. I mean , if i lived in Paris, London or even Tel Aviv, i can see this BMW as perfect for all these places. But in America, this is just not going to be as useful. But if they improve those 2 things like i said at first. Then it has better chances to sale more in the US then the model as is now. ✌️
PS: I can see if Apple had the balls to get into the electric scooter market, i can see Apple making the ultimate version of a scooter that this BMW had the potential to be, but like the man said in this video, all the cheap plastic parts are so unacceptable. Apple would make a proper version with proper materials. Because Apple does not give AF about saving money on parts.
Excellent review. Thank you. My wife and I both drive electric cars and I have always found managing the range very doable as the vast majority of our trips are less than the range and the vehicle can be fully charged at home before leaving. My summer commute is a Honda X-ADV. I recently ordered the CE04 as a replacement and am very much looking forward to it. I agree that the top box looks ugly on what is otherwise a stunning bike, which is a shame. I hope that it is too niche and distinctive to be of interest to thieves; with luck the electronics will make it hard to start and the break for parts market will be limited.
Richard, do you have any idea when I am able to order one in the US?
Nice to hear it. :) I rode this scooter and here are my thoughts: th-cam.com/video/ImR74bXMOjs/w-d-xo.html
comment tu attache une chaîne antivol sur cette machine ?
I like it. Wheels could be better indeed.
Would love if it had CCS. Makes it a small tourer.
The solid wheels hve noting to do with looks - solid wheels 10 times more aerodynamic than spoked wheels Great Job
How fast do you have to go, to generate the 1.21 Gigawatts?
Thoughtful review, thanks. I agree about the rear box… spoils the looks for me. I do, however, like the wheels and belt drive.
I love the styling, but at $12k, they'll have to do a lot better than 80mi range to sell me on it. Time, and improved battery tech should solve that.
I saw the box and thought - oooooooo I like that... but you did a great job of making me hate it with you. The space on the steering column tho - I think this would take a clever mount for the phone?
would you prefer something that looks better but it's less functional or more dangerous?
I like the square box.
I quite like the look of the front half. When are they going to get round to doing the back half?
I'm more just the reverse.
BMW of North America announces pricing and electric range for the new 2022 BMW CE 04 electric scooter. The pricing starts at $11,795 and that will get you 80 miles of electric range. The expected market launch is scheduled for Q1 2022. 231 kilograms = 509 pounds
Get on with it!
What is the range of this
E Scooter?
I like it and I want one! I don't mind the box, I sure wouldn't want to be without it!
I'd like swappable batteries.
Great show, but would it really be that hard to give an onscreen Euro / GBP / Dollar conversion?
Just watched this again seeing I watched Don review the CE04 earlier today. I agree about the cheap plastic facing you below the dash. Looks dreadful. Such a contrast with the beautiful dash. Everything else I love. Apart from the range and, to a lesser extent, the price. I even really like the top box, which I regard as 'industrial', like I said last time. But... you don't get the sport mode on the base model. That's ridiculous. Maybe you don't really need sport mode, especially in an urban setting.
Great review, top channel.
Hope you're recovering. Nick
Nice review :) When I spent 10 yrs working and living in Bavaria, flitering through traffic to get to the front of the lights (or anyhere else) was a big no no. This was why not many of my biker work collegues used their bikes for work as there was no speed advantages over a car ! Big shame as the roads were great for 2 wheelers :)
We have the same stupid laws in Denmark - filtering is considered reckless irresponsible driving
I wish we had the same law in Switzerland because that’s only the start, in Geneva as soon as they have seen you have seen them they cut your priority, they use their vulnerability as a right of way
@@marcbungener1877 So what. Getting angry over motorcycles skipping the line is the same as getting angry at someone skipping the supermarket line, only they didn't buy anything. You take up the space of at least six motorcycles with your car
“Nobody even notices you arrive” - yeah, that’s not a good thing with distracted traffic.
Can I flip the luggage case around, so it sits closer to the driver? That way I would be able to use it as a back rest when needed.
Sure looks like you could with that bolt pattern and mount a pad on it
@@bfarm44 that’s what I’m looking at too. 🤞🏻
All looking good. It's a shame the top box and rack impinge on the rear seat.
Nice Dyson, Mat. You’ve vacuumed those roads almost to perfection. Your missus will be proud of you! How about testing an iron next? 🤪
I'm waiting to see how much BMW is going to want for them here in the States if we get them here
I saw many e-scooters in China when I visited there 12 years ago. They have shoebox size swappable rechargeable battery. Seems like very popular. I think they banned gas-powered scooters. The escooters were priced less than US$1000.
I really wish they maxed-out on the range tho. I would put up with the extra weight for an extra 50miles. Would take it into a new realm entirely. Could easily fit a decent battery in the helmet box as an extra.
There seems to be alot of low down space above the rear wheel which is crying out for a cargo box out of the wind.
I was pleasantly surprised quite a nice a review. Normally a review of a German vehicle by someone of the Jeremy Clarkson vintage is a little like the "Don't mention the war" episode of Fawlty Towers,
No center stand?
Pretty good review although you failed to mention how comfortable or not the very slightly padded plank was,as someone who rides a conventional BMW motorcycle I wouldn’t have that thing as a present, just saying.
Could be useful if the price was right and freely available in SA(Not a special order).Thks.
Thank you for this video. Seems to be a great bike if one can live with the range. But my one big problem is.......
The price.
Exactly. Rode one and the range should be better, otherwise a nice scooter. :) Here is my test ride if interested th-cam.com/video/ImR74bXMOjs/w-d-xo.html
Lovey 🏍wheels, will check what it will cost here in OZ.👍🇦🇺
I bet all that matt black plastic will look beautiful when it has a couple of years worth of mud and grime on it from use. Love the idea of sneaking up behind traffic and surprising them, fantastic way for a car not to be aware of one's presence and crash into you. What a brilliant idea. Great review. What price?!!!
about 15 k usd
I can't work out why I would go for this and not a Zero S with more than twice the range at the same price.
How much the bike cost
Excuse me, what keywords can I find in this tail box?
I agree with your criticism, it's NOT cheap enough .... That's why I decided for an INOA SLI 5 with 3 KW Bosch engine and direct drive of the backwheel. This makes much more sense and the PRICE: 1.900 EUR ..... 2,3 KWh for 100 km .... range with two batteries (plus 600 EUR) of 2 x 1.4 KWh is 120 km, that's really enough for city and shortrange traffic .... XXL TOPCASE for 36 EUR can carry your daily foodshopping .... insurance 32 EUR per Year .... it's lightweight with 90 kg AND you can park it in the City like an E-Bike.....AND you can ride with TWO persons plus TOPCASE .... That's really a wonderful DEAL compared to the BMW CE 04 🙂
45km/h max?
You really compare a 45km/h max scooter to this one?
I'd have one if it had a set of forklift Forks on the front, a Golf bag carrier in the rear and built in solar cells as long a BMW does charge a subscription for heated grips etc!
How much in American?
Nice review! It's going to take some getting used to but electric vehicles like this are almost certainly the future.
No they arnt
With electrical grids all over the world being overwhelmed because of the push for green energy has closed coal and nuclear power plants. The Green zealots want everybody to buy an electric vehicle without acknowledging that it will cause blackouts, they say don’t worry will figure it out, I don’t trust the Government to do anything quickly or efficiently.
@@A-FrameWedge and where do they think their charging stations get 90% of their power….from coal or nuclear plants 😂😂😂 they are just adding to the problem
I like them , other manufacturers now do top boxes and larger screens, it would be ideal where I live as I live on a island and if I went the full 50 kms one way I’d be 10 km under the sea , and the top speed you can go is a lucky 50 mph , got overtaken by one the other week on our only dual carriage way ( all 1/4 mile of it ) very impressive 😊😊👍👍 ps been driving ice motorbikes for 50 yyand there’s nothing wrong with ev motorbike s 😊👍👍
The ‘box’… was the first thing that caught my eye…
Sorry but any look at bmw's site or google will reveal there are some really nice bag storage options for the back seat.
The box grated on my design sensibilities every time it was visible.
Complimenti per la prova , scooter eccezionale, percorso 23000 km , posso sapere quanto sei alto ? Grazie .
Can it run on e-fuels?
Yes - we call it e-lectricity.
The back box would not be kind to the aerodynamic profile, either. The shortness of bikes is what contributes to a lot of their drag, so why would BMW add a cube back there? At least have a pad for a passenger as compensation. It looks so dated on something so new.
I like designs that are not afraid to be honest about what they are, and that is certainly what they've done with the CE 04. However, to harp on about aerodynamics (again), I don't see the angularity as a big help. It won't matter too much for scooters, since they're more associated with practicality and fashion than high speeds, but this will matter for faster performance models. Kawasaki in particular seems to be making their new sports bikes as pointy as possible, instead of the shapes of the ZX-14.
The Kamm effect means it might acrtually reduce drag.
It is a futuristic toy, not for everyone but for some. The price is in line with just said. So, for those who would like to be "in". These customers will pay for it. I rode one. Drop by to check it, if are interested.