Mercedes EQE 350 AWD | Lower Price, Lower Expectations
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 พ.ค. 2024
- We review the new 2023 Mercedes EQE EV, the E class of the Luxury car world. This smaller version of the EQS packs many of the same features at a much lower price with a 300-mile range. We discuss the pros and the cons and let the viewers decide. Others to consider are GV60, Genesis G80, BMW i4, Audi E Tron, and Tesla Model S.
#cars #EV #mercedes
Index:
00:00 Interior Exterior Impressions
2:53 Mechanical Impressions
6:15 Driving Impressions
13:21 Final Thoughts - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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Mercedes somehow started making cars that are a perfect synthesis of all the things I hate in modern cars. It’s literally like they used me as an anti-consultant
Right? I don't know what the hell happened. Not even that long ago they were making relatively subtle-normal cars and incredibly advanced but not in-your-face tech miracles (like the S-class from a couple of years ago). And now they make these ugly, tacky, fake-looking soap-boxes with as many screens as possible that are not only distractive as hell but are also basically like covering the whole interior with piano-black. I truly don't know what happened.
100 % agree on that, it is a perfect example of a car brand that is on the way to go from hero to zero very soon.
@lightbreeze183 count me in for European market. 👍
Right, I feel bad for the future..people act like these are actually fun to drive.
SAME. I can usually appreciate any car for at least something, but this is just bleh.
The fact that manufacturers have to ruin one of the pros of an electric vehicle (relative silence) to make it more engaging is somewhat ironic.
Can't you turn it off?
@@Nucleosynthese Yes lol i dont know why they're harping on that
Yes it can be turned off, but their sound profiles are a big part of marketing, much like lighting and all the other gimmicks to sell cars.
As long as it's optional, as in togglable, I see no downsides for anyone.
@@savagegeese So? Marketing companies are manipulative morons that think it sells. And it will. Still not relevant to everyday use.
The fact that I watched this video (and the one about the big GMC truck last week) is a testament to what a great channel this is. Nobody makes boring vehicles more interesting than Mark and Jack.
So true, I look at these videos and say "Oh, I don't like that car nor do I have any interest in it at all...I wonder what Mark and Jack think"
At least a Taycan actually looks like something you'd want to drive
Taycan isn’t a very useable sedan but is easily the second best EV on the market today. And priced like it 😖
Literally anything else looks like something you'd actually want to drive.
Have you seen anything from BMW recently?
@@grigorioschristodoulou5229 yeah. No one wants to see that beaver teeth front end
Also start at 90k but can’t find them for under 100k
Lol I literally choked on my drink when he said synthesized tiger noises 😂😂
There seems to be creative intermix between Mercedes and Star Citizen, unsurprisingly. They made a luxury space ship which has that weird orchestral synth effect for engine noise, and an alien-species ship actually has way too blatant actual tiger roar recording as it: th-cam.com/video/FMwlCfsM9Yg/w-d-xo.html
(But what do you expect from a ship that you fly by grabbing its balls? 🤷♂)
I actually laughed out loud 😂😂
“But that’s for business men to teach them to not pump the brakes on the next business deal” lmmaaaoo never change, sg
Pump in those fax sounds. "I want business sounds, not future noises!"
Well done Mark, you made it to the end of the video
i dont understand how looking at your cellphone screen while driving is considered distracted driving but car manufactures are allowed to literally put t.v screen RIGHT INFRONT OF THE DRIVER and that is ok....
Good point but also, the screen in the car is not designed to take your attention off the road where your phone is. That’s why Android Auto and Apple Car Play is extremely limited on what you can do. They are still distracting but not nearly as much as your phone. At the end of the day, the question comes down to, are you a responsible driver or not.
@@wacawacaflaca it's a screen. It is taking your attention and eyes off the road.
Ultimately, it’s up to the driver to be distracted or not regardless of what the tech setup is inside. I’ve seen people eating soup, putting on makeup, and other daily life stuff while driving. Those people are hopeless.
@@pileofwit Don’t forget reading the paper, that’s always important on your way to work.
Some jurisdictions say touching your car radio while driving is the same as touching a phone. It's typically on the books incase being distracted by them causes an accident. Obviously difficult to prove.
"Let's Get This Over With..."
sounds like the new MB Mission Statement.
As more and more modern cars come out, I am more and more convinced that I should just buy a 1990's corolla and forget that electronics and all this nonsense exists.
1994 toyota celica, greatest car ever made
My 2002 Honda Accord >> Mercedes EQE 350 AWD
@@Vorael That, or a 2000 Celica T-Sport (GTS in the US) :)
Go all in and get a Model T 👌
I have 2002 Lexus LS 430 & 2004 Landcruiser. I’m fine with them being 20yrs old. No car payments and my LS is nicer than all of my friends 2020’s cars 😂
"Let's just get this over with" Lol. Guys, the production quality is outstanding and I know reviewing this stuff is work. Thanks for continue to slog through the crap so we can also get gems like the Miata series.
This is one of your best ones yet, I do appreciate the honesty and just letting MB have it for some of the gimmicky stuff.
By the way, if you're trying to obscure the speed you're traveling at, you need to mute Jack's mic too, not just Mark's 12:14 :D
1:24 Mr Goose's Fußball distraction edit is savage.
With that interior lighting, it's like a gaming pc on wheels!
Someone get Linus one
This design is suitable for the A-class, but definitely not for the E and S.
Blobby fwd proportions look awful and...hubcaps?
Really hope their (older) customer base will punish them for these choices, and all those people buy Lexus cars.
more like Beta-class
It's a kid's car bought by parents who don't care about $70K.
Agree 1000%
I have a hard time fathoming something I care about less, maybe if this was an SUV I could care even less.
As a 2017 E class owner, i can appreciate the very honest review of the 2023 eqe 350.
Version 1.0 of anything always has flaws in need of fixing. Im sure that by 2028/29, when version 2.0 of the eqe and eqs come out, mercedes will have smoothed out a lot of the eccentricities
I want my buttons back ... aluminum trimmed with good travel and notching? That's luxury
*slow clap* I commend you two for being completely upfront and honest and talking sh!t where it deserves
Taking a risk with Corporate/PR from MB.
This is not opulence. This is not the path to EV's. In fact, products like this and Hummer EV... actually make a poor argument for EVs and turn people away.
This is a entry level version for compliance numbers. C-class of EV's.
“C-Class of EVs.” If that car’s any sign, there’s millions of badge obsessed people who are perfectly ok with driving a cardboard box….so long as it’s a Mercedes cardboard box
@@Silversmok3 Keep in mind that Mercedes gives good discounts for B2B leases- thats why mercedes "sells" them.
They are a lease and dump product for corporations.
No one buys a 100k EV
C-Class? Don't give them ideas for the EQC
What's with hate on a C-class? The C63 AMG is their best car. Everything else is overweight, numb Boomer mobiles
@@wind016 Uh, no. S-Class has always been the best product. The 223 is the worst of all, though
1:25 the "YES!" audio was jarring and I love that you kept it in there to highlight how strange the promo clip is.
Another excellent no nonsense review from Mark and Jack. Keep dong what you're doing and how you do it...
I love how open-minded and fair Jack is in his car-related assessments.
Dont forget paying for subscriptions on your car
Does it come in manual?
Manuel? Your driver? Only if you pay extra for Manuel.
@@colin-nekritz 😂
The manual can be brought up with the voice assistant by saying, hey Mercedes, Why did I buy this car?
@@savagegeese answer... because you participate in Midieval Faire's.
Agree. All touch screens / screens are more distracting than traditional knobs and buttons. Giant tablets can be more distracting than holding a phone.
Only if you have to use them. On Tesla's, you rarely touch the screen for anything. Most things are voice controlled.
6:39 Mark came up with the perfect analogy for fake engine noise. Seriously good stuff lmao
I can’t imagine watching Doug DeMuro talk about the screens for 30 minutes, but I do enjoy these fellas reviewing this car 👍🏻
I'm so glad I ordered an i4 e40 after watching this.
loved the review and the car. Great job
Exterior design copied from an early 2000’s gaming mouse.
I'd quite like the scroll wheel option pack
Wrong, gaming mouse has physical buttons
Brilliant review, oh so honest, enjoyed your real world anecdotes!
I love when Jack panics and turns into Hank Hill for a second lol
The front end looks like a Honda Civic to me I can't unsee it lol
And an old Civic at that.
Had a MB GLC as a rental car earlier this year, and the black piano plastic really made that vehicle feel cheap compared with even a Toyota Corolla. Looks like this car will be the same.
My commute to Seattle used to be 50 miles each way in 25MPH bumper to bumper traffic. I would have to refill the fuel tank every 4 days at around $100. This car seems about perfect for that commute. Put it in the traffic, set everything for automatic and relax. Plug it in at night - rinse and repeat.
How much does mercedes pay you?
Except that people are gonna be looking at you funny during that bumper to bumper traffic. This thing is just goofy looking
@@CrimsonFlame01 Considering my current commute is in a CLS, I'm pretty sure the cash flow is in the opposite direction. 🤑
@@805NAVE All the the current Mercedes designs are kind of blobish. This isn't their most stylish era. The interiors are nice and that's the part you'll actually see during the commute.
Hard to watch this after watching RCRs video released just minutes before SG of a 300E W124, back when Mercedes gave a damn about, well [gestures everywhere]… EVERYTHING!?
Not a fan of the full-screen interior with no hard buttons for climate and stuff, but overall... I like it? I like the design and I see what they're going for, and the price is way more reasonable than the EQS (although I still think pricing should be closer to the standard E-Class imho)
Fake noises reminds me of a gag gift got for a friend. You plug it into 12v port and measured the alternator rpm, and would simulate a chevy 350 v8 over the car speakers. When you turned to right fm channel, that 3 cylinder geo metro sounded badass with windows down revving it
Mark, I love your videos so I sweated through this one but there is nothing I loath more than electric cars and German cars. This car is the epitome of why
I’m in the market for something like this and I think this video gives me the ammunition I need to forget this brand and get a Taycan GTS.
I prefer the tablet to the hyperscreen by a large margin. I don't like all glass for the dash. I like that there is another material, this looks like wood. It warms up the car. I'm not a fan of the ambient lights or the fake propulsion noise and wish you'd have turned it off at some point. The room in the back seems a bit suspect for Jack. But maybe it's roomy enough.
Screens have lost their novelty. This just looks like Mercedes has adapted the big screen like others. I think the way the EVs are distinguished is by steering, regen feel, suspension.
I feel like I'm in a Tron movie inside that interior.
The break paddle moving is probably the smartest thing about this car and I really don’t get how people don’t realize how bad it would be without it moving.
What to say it’s a proper small business boss becoming bigger,I can even hear it:
Yeah,when I started,this firm was 4 employees and me driving eqe,now we are 400 employees and me driving eqs.
Interesting serendipity, I just watched a video on the Mercedes 190E W201. My my how the idea of the E class…evolved in 30 years.
at least they still have stuff like the E450
the 190E wasn't an E-Class, it was an A-Class equivalent.
@@AM-py5vg more like C class
Based on my experience in the EQS the annoying sound effects can be turned completely off. I'm betting that is also the case with the EQE. I don't love these cars either but during all of the complaints, you seemed to be having a lot of fun on the drive. I believe we're making a huge mistake betting on EV's from an environmental point of view but I do appreciate the technology.
😂😂 “eta just get this over with”. Love it
Does it run on normal electricity or it requires premium MB-approved electricity?
Seems like you guys really enjoyed this car. I would hands down choose the EQE over everything else listed as competitors in the description. Even despite the aesthetics.
Seeing the infotainment I thought we were being rick rolled, LOL
Imagine spending over $70k on this 😂 looks like a futuristic Little Tikes car
It's for kids whose parents where $70k isn't a big deal to shut them up.
My friend gave me a ride in his Audi ETron. It felt like a luxury Learjet or what I imagine that to be. The Mercedes’ just seem special. Hard to see what will distinguish MbZ going forward.
Better than the EQS, but the Audi e-tron has it for me. I'd take the cramped rear seats for those looks and relatively normal interior
All I really wanted was an EV sedan from Mercedes that looked like their ICE cars.
I like to structure my avant-garde business deals from the fold out couch in the trailer of my two mom’s double wide in the most sheik trailer park on the wrong side of the tracks. This new EQE is going to compliment my lifestyle perfectly.
7:15 I thought AVAS was a mandatory option by now? what's the point if you can disable it?
The sound of ice cubes in your whiskey glass when you switch drive modes.
The rear wheel drive version 350 in China has dropped to 50K right now. Good news or bad news?
You guys are my best friends
Same
Samesies
Watching this right after that rcr 300e video is despressing
Together Forever!
The great thing about these vehicles is the depreciation. You can buy an '22 EQS 450+ or 580 with 15 k miles for less then $60k.
I still can’t get over how absolutely hideous and uninspired the EQE and EQS are. Their excuse is the low drag coefficient, but the Lucid Air has the same drag and looks significantly better. Mercedes has been making more and more questionable design choices the last few years.
I couldn’t agree more. A base accord looks 10x better, that’s a huge problem for the target market
Just watched the RCR video on the Mercedes 300E, something is nakedly missing here.
Also whats up with that nasty shiny black plastic on the OUTSIDE of the car. That will seriously look dreadful after a week.
@@LLG47 I had that stuff on the A-pillars of my MINI. It was nearly impossible to keep as shiny and scratch free as I wanted. It's softer than paint. I don't know if MB is using a harder plastic, but it turns me off, for sure. The EQE badging on it will make it even harder to maintain.
I really don't like Mercedes in so many ways, but the one that I actually considered visually appealing is that expensive roadster one. The grill not too oversizes and it had a nice retro aircraft design touch, in lack of better words.
Also, when the industry is panicking, brand A tries to do brand B and brand B tries to do brand A. Especially with BMW and Mercedes I see lots of 'fluctuation'.
With that GR supra cap, I'm hoping the next video is the manual supra..
I'm all for another supra video
Is that a nail or bolt of some kind in the tire at 3:25?
Love that growl, like an electric V8
The world is changing, I get that. But man, is it just me, or those cars are so proper, that it makes them boring.
Would love to see the lyriq on the lift. I'm between i4 lyriq or this... Or the taycan if I hit a lotto ticket
Loved your comments at the end about the future of EVs. Which is why I’m loading up my garage with as many manual ICE machines my bank account allows. Currently blessed enough to have several ranging from a 2022 Miata to a 2018 GT3 Touring. All fun to drive which these aren’t. And yes I’ve spent time in a Taycan, not interested.
If you enjoy being a negative nancy that wants to essentially crush anyone's interest in cars while being ignorant to anything positive sure I guess they are good comments.
I wonder why the Audi e-tron is listed as a competitor - it's an SUV with massive trunk, and this is a luxury sedan with 430L trunk..
Electrifying, Jack
Electrification was what the manufacturers could have used to reimage themselves what what they are. BMW and MB missed it big time, VW group is only in market who nailed their design language with EV's let it be VW, Porsche or Audi, they look sleek and not in your face.
Somehow comparing these new EV sedans with Tesla Model S makes Model S looks handsome and mature, the minimum nature of exterior and interior in Tesla feels like being in a more comfort environment.
BMW will do great in their intended markets of China and Beverly Hills where ostentatiousness rules
I see all the comments on the brake pedal but do the brake lights come on when it’s doing this?
Yes. Brake lights are now not operated by the pedal but by a deceleration sensor.
I think these will age very well and become a much better proposition in the used car market. I personally like the styling. When I'm ready for an ev in like 10 years I'll be looking at these.
After 3 years when cars will have 500 miles range this will be e-waste
@@grigorioschristodoulou5229 or a terrific bargain
software longevity and obsolescence will be a concern
In 10 years they'll be none of these on the road , all be the junkyard
This will not age well. You can tell this has chinese tastes smeared all over it
We all got Rick Rolled at 0:55 😀
Man just the Thumbnail makes me sad.
It looks just so uninspired.
"Lets just this over with" - LOL
We just got Rickrolled at 0:57 hahahaha
I need to watch a W124 or old S class video immediately. The future is disgustingly soulless.
As an EQE owner this is kinda harsh to watch. Everything criticized here is true, but a lot of these things change if you just daily drive it for a while and a lot of good aspects about the car are completely missing.
What it kinda misses is how great this thing is for daily traffic use. Before this I had current gen E/C classes and an EQC and the EQE drives better than all of those by a quite big margin. It‘s insanely comfortable, the tech works really well and is state of the art (the driving assistants are the best I have used), it handles so much better than a regular E class or even the C class coupe I had, which is probably because of the better weight distribution. Some things take a while to get used to (especially all the touch stuff), but I did and now it‘s just an absolute pleasure to drive this thing or sometimes be driven by it (in heavy traffic) and it‘s pretty easy to use. I also love stuff like the digital light projections, Ambient light etc. More than I thought I would. Some of these features really take a while to get used to and I think experiencing this as a daily is a whole other thing than trying to review it in a small amount of time. The test kinda missed a lot of the great features this car has and focused on the basics and obvious things too much. It‘s all the features that really make it - combined with excellent efficiency/really good range and the comfort while still being able to drive fast. To be fair mine is fully specced out and has every feature.
What really is bad is the plastic on the doors and all the piano black stuff, but I quickly just didn‘t care, which is really weird, because I dieliked that a lot. The new touch steering wheel is also just like the old one but with more touch and less buttons - which makes no sense and is just a downgrade. The design is weird (but kinda grew on me - which is probably, because I have the much better looking 21 inch wheels and a fully blacked out car).
The "it becomes less bad once you drive it for a while" is not really an argument when it doesn't offer anything over the existing solution. Examples the moving brake pedal and all the touchscreen BS.
Still, I beloeve you that it is very comfortable and composed when driving around. But I guess it is about the same with every new platform generation.
A Corolla hybrid is also great for daily traffic use. So is almost every current gen EV on the market right now. Doesnt justify the rest of the negatives. I can understand its not a bad car, I dont see what it offers over the competition, apart from the Benz badge.
@@grigorioschristodoulou5229 you are right. But I also thought that the previous steering wheel was perfect. This one is worse, but still good.
The moving brake pedal isn‘t less bad after a while, it‘s actually good. Touchscreen is also pretty good to use even though I would prefer to have a few more buttons, but even the way it is is very nice to use imo.
@@xzst While I have only briefly been in a Tesla, I am pretty sure the Benz is built 100 times better. And even if I would get a perfectly assembled Tesla, I just despise people and businesses that try to get away with sub-par quality. And compared to other EVs, the EQE has probably got some of the best acoustics. I just don't get MBUX with all the gradients and glitter, the silly 🐅 gargling sound etc.
How come none of these EV’s have Sentry mode which Tesla has? It’s such a easy SW function to add
Please review W124/W140, TRUE Mercedes-Benz luxury saloons 👍🏻
Seems fine for the modern Mercedes owner.
The EQS fake engine noise sounds like our electric trolleybuses from the 90s. This sounds like that except it also sounds like a diesel somehow.
I lol'd for real at the 20 touch note. God bless the savagegeese.
So this is what a Gen IV or V Chrysler LHS cab-forward design would look like
I would take Lexus ES class over this any day
You're in base model LS territory for this much money, which is also insane to think about.
This Car looks Amazing from the Front.
Is “retro future look” code for “domestic?”
I don't know how it sounds in the car, but on my phone when you floor it, it sounds like a very slow accelerating, low rpm, 4 cylinder.
Needed to add this fact: $1,200 a year to subscribe to the cars full power. It's already in the car you just have to pay monthly to unlock it lol.
Let's just get this over with. Ouch. I have a Lucid GT-Performance, amazing car.
Hey guys thanks for another honest review. I feel old when I watch this because this car features exactly everything that I hate/dislike. I guess people will not be into driver’s cars anymore in the future. Pretty sad. Gone is the fun.
Welcome to “1984”.
Fortunately BMW just came up with the new M2. Too bad it looks like a shoe box, but I will get this any time instead of these horrendous gimmicky EVs that pretend to be cool.
THE BEST OR NOTHING ❤
That empty space on the dash doesn't look right to me. Even with an infinity display, it looks awkward. Whats up with the bolted-on display cluster, is this a C or E class.
I’ve placed an order for almost the same config, minus the rear steering. I would have loved to see if the tech translated to something meaningful to the user, but I also don’t know a lot about embargo.
This still seems like a C-class for interior space, there is at least 6-8 inches more legroom in the backseat of my w212 E350.
This strikes me as a car for people who don't really want a car. They like tech and want a transportation appliance that reflects that. Think about the person who would spend extra on their fridge to be able to play Angry Birds on it, and that's the target
The only gap between EV prices and what people can afford that is bigger, are the panelgaps of this vehicle.
Surely all part of the optimized air flow layout, ha-ha.
I'm confused: expensive vehicles such as this are sold out and demand huge dealer markups.
Tesla shut down production due to unprecedented demand.
So how is it that people "can't afford" these?
Ohhh you mean *you* can't afford it? Got it.
@@tim3172 im glad you removed the comment yourself, despot.
Will they make an EV of my 1994 celica?