PENINSULA: Train to Busan's DISSAPOINTING SEQUEL
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ธ.ค. 2023
- Some sequels never should happen. This one to an instant classic becoming a generic action flick fits the bill HARD.
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Not gonna lie, the Train to Busan banner being stuck on Peninsula did more harm than anything in the film. I am adept at dissociating something from another thing, watched the movie and thought it was generic 5/10, then read the title in the end, remembered the OG Train to Busan, and the disconnect and dissonance clicking into my mind brought it down to 1/10. As a film, a mid heist is passable, as a sequel to a heartfelt and brilliant movie, a downright insult that disregards its predecessor yet wants to hitch a ride to success with it.
On Point!
if they dont use the banner no one would have watched it
I agree with you like I would give it like a 3.5-4.5/10 personally. Like my friend hates fallout 4 saying it’s trash and I’m like it’s not a great game but the gameplay is fun the gun play is the best in the franchise the main reason you hate it is because the last fallout game was a fucking masterpiece it makes you think a 5-6/10 game a 2
The movie wasn't bad and it wasn't good. In truth the story is almost like army of the deads plot, without the smart zombies or nukes lol. It was great to kill an hour and half , but forgettable at the sametime, train to Busan opened me up to watching foreign films and studios, had me telling other people about it and I still watch it a few times a year. Not the same at all.
Why not?
The thing that pisses me off about this movie is it DIDNT need to be a train to Busan sequel. It has literally nothing to do with train to Busan. They could of just called it like "dead heist" or something
"What?, and missed the minimum chance to extract every penny of fans,by using the brand?, you crazy?!" - Executives
@strikeforce1500 the short sightness of company's doing this actually blows my mind.
Dead heist?! You're right! Should be this title!
the sad thing is the animated movie compare to this was almost like masterpiece.
I genuinely didn’t know Peninsula was a TTB sequel
The scene where an outbreak took pace on the ship. Should have been the entire movie. The tension between the US & SK soldiers was cool.
Basically the pirate movie with tom hanks but the pirates win 😂
Yeah or with the squad. I would have liked to see what happened to make them this way for four years being stranded.
That was our theory back then before the movie even started. It is only a sequel months after the first movie's end.
They should have just made the film take place on that boat in the beginning of the movie. Keep the theme the same as the first. Film being set in a mode of transportation, it's claustrophobic, No real safe way of escaping unless running the risk of other dangers. Idk... i feel like they had a great concept right in front of their face.
Yeah but to boat should’ve been a ship. The boat in the stand alone looked like a ferry
Really I feel like this one of the most disrespectful sequel for a movie like Train of Busan. As it’s looks at what the first movie does and threw it out and dropped five nukes on it. And said “Fuck it time for a fast furious fused with zombies.”
Instead of a heist it could be like a recovery mission of historical items or preventing a nuclear meltdown by shutting it down just to realise a group of survivors living in the place with some being previously worked there, but cant evacuate them due to it being "off the books" and can't attract attention to other nations
I put on Train to Busan at a family reunion at my aunts house and let me tell ya these are people who do not watch foreign films because they have to read. Once it was on though and some of the family trickled in they were hooked. It's such a good movie and it's a shame that this is it's legacy. Sometimes things don't need a sequal.
your last statement immediately gave me PTSD from Pacific Rim
Holy fuck i remember watching this with my friends. I went in thinking "Fuck yeah sequel time" and went out thinking if we made a mistake because what me and the blokes have watched is clearly not a sequel but a skin walker that took a massive shit on the first movie and tried to pass itself on as a sequel as the desecrated corpse of the first movie is hastily shoved in a burning trash heap.
Imagine Busan as a gigantic fat American eating two cheeseburgers at the same time.
Now imagine Peninsula as a starving Ethiopian child being stalked by vultures.
Personally, I don't think a night scene being blue is bad (to an extent, but in this scenario I don't think this movie did it terribly). Half the time a movie is almost pitch black and you can't see a single character if you want to watch it outside a theater (which is increasingly common). In my opinion, the brightness of night comes from the same place music comes from in movies, its to just give viewers a way to see what's happening.
Pretty sure most people would've enjoyed peninsula more if they couldn't see anything lol
I feel like the reason why it was so terrible is because they tried to appeal to American audiences.
Once they saw how popular it was in the west, they said "Oh dang! Americans love it! Let's try to mimic the Hollywood movies so they like it more!" and overlooked what made train to Busan so beloved
Right? We in the west loves this movie BECAUSE it’s so drastically different and straight up better than American zombie films. Hell, I’d even go as far as to say this movie transcends just being perfect by zombie movie standards. This movie put me onto k-films and j-films and jesus we in the west need to step the fuck up.
Then this movie came out and felt like every zombie flick I ever watched before Train to Busan.
@@sarcasticsuperjerk18 it's like a parody of every over the top, nonsensical, zombie action movie
That's really what it felt like. It's like they wanted to american zombie movie with a touch of korean.
This is a huge problem with asian entertainment companies in general right now, especially manga and anime. People in the west like anime and manga SPECIFICALLY because of how very "Japanese" their flavor of entertainment are, whether it be how they do their characters, stories, or include subject matter typical western entertainment considers taboo. Yet you constantly have Japanese companies altering their product to make it more "western-friendly", and the thing either ends up bombing or not doing anywhere near as well as it would have if it were simply unaltered. Westerners like foreign entertainment because it's -foreign-, aka different than what they typically get at home by a noticeable degree in one way or another. This constant idea that things have to be changed for the local audience outside of just properly subbing/dubbing something is astoundingly stupid.
@@Loli-Knight all it takes is just a marketing team to learn why the west loves their stuff. Such an unnecessary gamble. Hell you don't even NEED a marketing team, just have some translator taking notes on the many yt videos praising their stuff taking notes.
It would be wild if the American train to busan movie ended up being really good and wasn’t an example that no one learnt anything from Let Me In.
it called The Last Train to New York
@@badboy2k67yup.
I am hoping for it to be good but at the same time trains just aren't a very important thing in America. Is it just going to be a slow ass Amtrak?
@@deletedwafflesNot if it's set in the subway trains that people use to commute in the city.
@@deletedwaffles. This is actually false; The railroad network throughout North America is quite extensive. (Used to be MORE extensive, of course; There's no shortage of abandoned lines or stations.) It's just less so in the passenger department than it is in the freight department. (I should know; I live like 3 blocks near to one of the lines.) Plus, they can always switch it between Amtrak, regional rail (Bear in mind a lot of the tracks throughout the East Coast were already built centuries prior), and the New York subway system. (Although, with the name of the film being "Last Train to New York", I'm gonna assume the subway isn't a major part of the film so I guess they would replace it with Light Rail.)
Why it's called "Last Train to New York" when New York City is literally the most populated city in the entirety of the U.S (Zombie Apocalypse 101: Get AWAY from the cities) is anybody's guess. (Although Manhattan does have the capabilities to defend against zombies if none can infest the island: Take out all of the bridges, collapse the tunnels, and then the only way in or out is by boat via the rivers and New York Bay or by air.)
I feel like Peninsula should have only taken place in that. The peninsula. Have it be focused on the family, or hell maybe even a lone character trying to survive the apocalypse. Or hell, have the main character be from Unit 631 who had a heart for the people in the games and decided to free one of em (say...a woman, 'cause all the players in that game were men), and it would just be focused on the two main characters trying to escape the peninsula with both zombies and Unit 631 on their tails. And of course it would end with the main character dying. And to rub salt in the wound, have the main character be a father of a daughter who ended up dying because of his work in Unit 631, as they were there to stay alive, but the brutality of the militia costed his own child's life. And THAT would justify his sacrifice at the end, bringing the woman to safety at the UN. Although rather than having the mc let himself turn into a zombie, he'll just shoot himself so he could hurry up and join his daughter in the afterlife. Boom. Coulda had potential, but didn't.
This movie really felt like a side story that the studio decided to adopt as a sequel
Glad to see you back to doing these kind of video essays.
the idea of greed, spurring a team to go to a doomed/quarantined area, for a large sum of cash/goods is a cool idea. the idea of a a lost London having billons of cash/ ton's of gold in a bank that COULD be accessed at the risk of a zombie horde finding you. that's a freaky spooky movie idea, while the horde picks the guys off one by one a small group survives with one guy being infected and dragging the infection back to there land mass.
that is a cool plot point for ANY OTHER ZOMBIE FRANCHISE!
not train to Busan, that plot line is American zombie flick or novel.
take "train to Busan" out of the title and it is just a generic zombie flick and it is just a sub par film
Train to Busan and Seoul Station are fantastic I love them both, I remember Peninsula coming out and buying it on blu-Ray from my local HMV and planning an event evening (sort of speak) with friends takeout to watch it and boy.. the let down hit hard.. I think a lot of us checked out during the CGI car chase sequence.
However that being said I recently re-watched it already knowing what I’m going into and I enjoyed it more.
I guess the disappointment faded 😂
The problem is that this movie is a sequel. If it was its own thing or even just a spin off, it wouldnt have bothered so many so much.
Actually, I think I'm one of the few people out there that didn't think Peninsula was terrible, but I don't see it as a sequel, bc it really isn't. Anyone I know that hasn't seen this, I just tell them to watch Peninsula, then Seoul Station and lastly, TTB, but I tell them NOT to think of Peninsula as a sequel, but it's own separate zombie film.
Fast and the furious presents Train to Busan: peninsula
Man, i remember going to the movies with my friends and saying the same phrase "Korean World War Z" even with the army doing dog-shit!
The second I saw the kid I knew it would be bad. I don't understand how it got this bad but just like Sweet Home 2, sudden overuse of CGI, cartoonish everything, and just generally going off the rails completely seems like something that is unavoidable. It really did feel like a bad generic Hollywood blockbuster version of Train to Busan.
Peninsula is very similar to the sequel to Sicario. Very tonally different, a lot more action, and significantly weaker from a narrative perspective.
Great example
yes, Sicario will always be a classic. Day of the Soldado, while still entertaining, it still lacked...
I liked that the night scenes were bright enough to see what is going on though.
Same, better than complete darkness, but i like daytime zombie/horror movies more. It's scarier when even daylight cant save you.
This Sequel is mixing up with Mad Max, Fast & Furious, And Ocean 11 with Zombies.
Bahaha, now I'm thinking of movies with zombies.
Bringing Down the House, with Zombies.
Cheaper By the Zombie
The Lion, the Zombie, and the Wardrobe.
Fast & Furious 9: 2 Slow 4 Zombie
I personally think that removing every single car chase scene would have made the movie muuuuch better. Don't even replace them, just erase them. Can't believe budget was dumped into that
Tbh, I legit forgot this movie exist.
For the best.
I just noticed how much this indeed look like a video game cut scene especially the whole mad max chase
Ngl just been listening to your zombie analysis for 5 hours now while I work actually gave me a couple zombie movies to check out that I didn’t watch because I thought they were gonna be bad
The only part that I waited in the movie was the cameo of the rescuers in the end. Because one of them played by an actress from my country.
Yea it was too fast and furious like for me. It was entertaining but didn’t make me feel anything. I feel like a good zombie movie has a more meaningful message more than human are selfish and evil. I liked the prequel and its twist towards the end. I feel like it’s the best animated zombie movie I’ve seen. Yeah the sequel dropped the ball on this one.
I feel like a good train to busan sequel could just be be the story on that evacuation ship, instead of Train to Busan, it's Ship to Hong Kong, if they want, they could even throw in a story line talk about US/South Korea political commentary and debates like they often do in other ealier South Korean disaster films, much like Remero's original living dead trilogy talks about different topics of different times in each entry.
Have it that earlier ships came in with everyone dead or infected so now all ships from South Korea are banned from docking. Then ramp things up onboard.
Love it when you upload a video my friend. You and Roanoke gaming keep my life together with your content.
I watched the sequel with my family, which was the same thing that we did with the first movie, and we were all extremely disappointed by how generic and lacking of emotional depth that the first movie had.
This sequel truly is an example of money over vision. I loved the first film and this one really does miss a lot and I mean side ofa barn miss, but it does have some stuff in it that could have worked if they paid more attention to them. The abandoned soldiers being feral from just surviving and the captain wanting to kill himself with what most likely is the last of the food running out, who would want to try and control them when they are clearly beyond reasoning with. I doubt anyone assumed there were any survivors in the area with the completely taken over the area.
I can understand the main character as a former soldier being so guilt driven as he abandoned people and lost everything anyway. The amount of stupid mistakes he makes does get a bit much and eventually leads to some of the worst reasons for the action. I also get them using little discoveries in the movie like the trapped zombies behind what I would assume to be the nearly unbreakable plexiglass/ partly bulletproof industrial floor to ceiling glass. The cgi is truly terrible for the budget, I have to expect they rushed the extra scenes with the cg heavy forcing them to barely get it passable before moving on to the next item.
Overall if the movie had the extra time for the reasons why the characters are the way they are it would have been fine. I probably will watch it again some point in the future like I do with land of the dead, both movies not the greatest examples from there film series but because land of the dead gives them time to flesh out the characters it is actually a fun movie to watch since you can see the world from their view of point a lot easier.
Honestly, if they had a part of the script dedicated to showing that the girl was actually a professional driver/drifter BEFORE the apocalypse (and did some changes here and there to accommodate each character as "the specialist" of their fields), all those fast and furious scenes would be way better
The only other movie which I would hold above Peninsula when it comes to an absolutely jarring change is Doomsday. It follows a similar route where they're so different from each other but, in the case of Doomsday, it's compacted in to a single movie rather than through a sequel.
Doomsday starts like your typical outbreak movie but then it hard shifts in to an utterly bizarre Max Mad fever dream with an extra emphasis on mad.
Peninsula had so much hype and so much disappointmemt
“The love of money is the root of all evil.” that is the proper quote
YESSSSS,, FINALLY , FOCKING FINALLLLY
Someone with a brain to talk about this Train Wreck
Imo,, Why Peninsula is so different to TTB,, becoz it tried so hard to become Hollywood flick
I would like to see a movie that explores the evacuation by ship to Hong Kong, the ocean is a serious factor considering theres no place to hide if things get out of control. I guess theres places to hide on a ship but it still provides a great setting for a zombie movie, especially because the 1st movie was based on the outbreak on a train.
If they used the same level of character development & stay faithful to the 1st in its style and writing, it could be an epic movie. They could add action by having marines to protect civilians & spec ops on board to protect the vips or something.
I did not realise that the mom is the one from the flash back and that the girl she was holding is the little sister (I'm guessing it's the little sister and not the older sister)
I mean if they actually mention it in the movie that just blew over my head
I love watching the chaos of the initial outbreak. Not zombie killing badasses years after the outbreak
I was deeply disappointed in the second movie. Train to Busan was incredible, it was absolutely amazing so in a way I am not very shocked they didn't get to that level again but the disappointment was real.
Train to busan is in my top 5 as well. This movie is okay for a random movie if you don’t connect it to TTB.
What do you think of the kingdom on Netflix? Probably my top zombie story / movie of all time
Hes done video on it, likes it a lot
@@makepr thanks I’ll definitely check it out! It’s so good! 😊
Been waiting for this video for so long time,im really happy right now
Peninsula is one of those outta pocket movie concepts that were never suppose to be made
Hey! I remember the plot of World War Z….the book 😂
Thank you for making this; now I know not to waste my time.
I think the idea would have worked better if "The Peninsula" was treated like the Zone from Stalker. A lawless land where people go to make a name or escape to.
Have the people who willingly enter South Korea go there for reasons other than money. Could be to escape a destitute life and make something of themselves, could be thrill-seekers, could be people wanting to reclaim the land. Any reason that someone could want to enter a dangerous place like that.
(I know I'm bad at explaining stuff, sorry)
I mean, in stalker there are also people that enter on the zone for money
I like that idea.
@@Brikiboi69 thanks
Even thinking about it now, Army of the Dead and Pennisula are the same type of movie
Amazing video man, I agree with so many points. Probably good for a drinking / smoking game with the homies though lmao.
Keep up the great work!
I feel the whole film should of been on the boat in the beginning
When you first showed the bad rv/bus driving through a horde, I legit thought it was just a clip from some random old game.
It wasn't until you brought it up again that I realized, that's actually in the movie lmao.
Duuude i havetn seen your channel this active in a while! Ive been a sub since the why blank is so hard to speedrun, hapy holdiays and stay wow zach
I think Peninsula is just a sequel to give us more information about what happened to South Korea YEARS after the outbreak (timeline of Train to Busan).
Love your video and keep up the great work
OMG, I remember the Casting Call for one or two American Characters being on Backstage for Peninsula years ago!
At first I was sad I didn't even get a chance to audition after applying, but then I was relieved to have avoided being affiliated with a disappointing sequel after the negative reception the lackluster sequel received upon release 😅
....also, I cringe at the thought of Modern Hollywood adapting TTB 😬
Another thing that they were Suuuper subtle about is the unit name. Unit 631. Literally only one away from Unit 731 (the imperial Japanese unit that committed some of the worst war crimes imaginable)
Feels like a spin-off instead of sequel
Whenever I hear this movie being mentioned in a conversation I double check the person on whether or not they actually consider it a “sequel”. I do not consider this movie a sequel at all, just some international movie with a zombie plot that got hit by a B-rated action script.
37:00 Actually, that's a somewhat competet way of using Chekhov's Gun
Good to have you back
The boat scene at Peninsula's beginning reminds me of the second Japanese mission in WWZZ [the game] where the squad of four is exfil onto a cruise after helping survivors near the coastline board in time only for the zombie outbreak to occur there too.
From my understanding, what made TtB a compelling narrative setting-wise is the claustrophobic space of the train and multiple encounters between the survivors and the horde of zombies that, frankly, was difficult to stop with what was available.
A boat with similar stakes, character development and that balance between hope and hopelessness would've been a killer sequel to TtB and frankly, what it deserved to be.
I didn't even know Peninsula came out till this was recommended to me....I was so excited thinking the next Train to Busan was gonna be coming out soon
that last hug moment had real anime ignoring time vibes. lol
Funny thing is, i watched the first one drunk and my brother told me the 2nd was a "train wreck" of a movie that i just never got into either.
The UN being useless is just about the most realistic part of the movie.
50 minutes no ads!!! Hallelujah
seeing that World War Z was such a success is wild because all I remember is people being disappointed or angry that it deviated so much from the book. Also the annoying ass children and wife that called Brad on the phone even though she was told not too
Im glad they changed it to gold because at first i was confused why anyone would risk their lives for money backed by a government that no longer exists. Like it's worthless paper was what i was thinking for like half the movie 😂
Train to Busan literally makes me cry just thinking about it. I'm not a big movie crier ever, the only other time I've cried from a movie was iron Man's death in endgame and that was a Chara built up over several movies. Unfortunately peninsula didn't make me feel anything for it's generic characters
The movie failed when they made the zombies a secondary element in their own movie.
Wow what's the background music you used for this part? 28:38
I remember starting to watch this film but I don't think I ever bothered finishing it. It was just another generic zombie flick with no heart.
EDIT. Thinking about it, this would have been a better film if we had followed the unit. From rescue troops, to abandoned, to surviving and their slow adaptation and deterioration into what they are in this film. Then if you want the redemption arc, have them find something worth sacrificing for,
So happy to know that I am not the only one disappointment by this sequel. What the hell was that?
so happy i wasnt the only one disappointed. ill keep watching the first one over and over, it always feels like the first watch❤
Hey zack, ever heard of the l4d arg? There's a channel here called CEDA. It takes the background story and makes its own lore. It's really good from what I've seen so far. Maybe a video review for it? It should get more recognition for its existence alone.
What a M. Night Shaymalan twist. The one liners man. 😃😃😃
The true quote is "the love for money is the root of all evil"...
I didn't even know the sequel existed until TH-cam suggested this video to me...
The amount of time you used to watch this video you can just watch the movie.
But why would you
The scenes of Peninsula is good but the only thing that disappoints me is no character from the previous Train to Busan series appeared.
Literally the only thing I remember about this shitty movie is that it felt like some ridiculous car commercial, what the fuck was that van made of? Not a dent in it for most of the movie
I just came up with a better plot. So instead of making the sequel a "get some money, and come back." Heist. A group go back to south Korea. To get a sample of the antidote so that way, they can bring it back to the U.S., finish the antidote. Then mass produce it. Then dump it all over South Korea to take out the virus. And I came up with that in like 2 minutes.
My first theory about Peninsula is that they will be transporting survivor on a ship that will be flooded by zombies and the only way to survive is go lure the zombies at the bottom part of the ship. It follows a family of 3 which was supposed to be 8 but they have to make rash decisions for them to survive. Only a father and 2 sons were left alive. This story is based on grief and acceptance of loss. This also includes how people is the greediest when it comes to survival.
The story also has horror themed special sequences where they will be ensued with harsher difficulties considering that the ship they are in are going to 5 trips around Korea to save other survivors before going to Jeju Island where it is said to be safe.
the fact that someone infected managed to sneak into the boat undetected makes no sense, in the train the person literally runs in, probably seconds after being bitten, and a few minutes later she transforms, with the amount of people around and how long it would've taken for that person to turn, it is impossible that they would've gotten there in the first place, not only that but the infected never are alone, they run in massive packs, so if that one person got infected in the first place then there should be panic because the wall of infected is probably upon the ones being evacuated
honestly, all they had to do to fiz this was make the evacuation far more dire, have people running for their lives as the infected swarm the pier, and have that one person who sneack through the cracks in a moment of absolute chaos, which lead to them turning in the ship and such
When I heard Train to Busan was getting a sequel I was hoping it would be a continuation from where the first one ended but it wasn't and that's kinda sucks
I think the scene between Hwang and Seo was meant to show that Hwang figured out something was going on and the comment was just a way to give Seo an out to make him think Hwang is just a simpleton but, just like most things in the movie, they forgot to follow up on it.
The thing that does not work with the infected getting on board is not that the military processed people or not, it's the rate at which people infected turn full zombie.
Based on the rules of that movie's univers, the infected would have turned before even getting in line to board the ship...
That's what does not work for me.
As for the "Train to Busan" banner, I mean... every studio is trying to build IPs nowadays... so it's a given.
I think what train to Busan did better then their squeals is the human element of the movie how people would react and act base on survival and even on the face of death we will still rip each other apart even before the zombies gets to you to the point you question what is more deadly the zombies or the people and is humanity even worth surviving
I loved the first one but never heard of this.....apparently thats a good thing
Some the scenes look like it was straight from a bad graphic video game.
they should have fleshed out that ship setting, it scarier with that cramped space
Nice of you to give Sgt. Hwang a promotion to Captain in the middle.
The movie was an average blockbuster, but I really do not understand why we do not see the woman and the child who survived from the first movie. It is really stupid, because at the beginning of Peninsula we meet a woman and a child... Such a wasted potential to connect two movies...
It should've been connected to the Fast and Furious universe...
I adored the first movie, i found it through your videos and i fell in love with it and became my favorite all time movie. Ive showed it to many of my frends and they loved it. When i found they made a sequal i was super excited for it, but after seeing it i was disappointed, there wasnt the same heart as the first movie did. They tried to make it too much like a hollywood action zombie movie with campy goofy villians. Im also not looking forwad towards the american remake, i just have a feeling they will ruin it
any chance you could do a review on I am a hero? its probably one of the best zombie movies I have watched or enjoyed watching hope you'd get an opinion on it
lack of foresight and killing the main character in the first film was the biggest blunder. they shoulda just made an animation sequel where the train to busan MC was now a zombie and is being searched by his already adult daughter now becoz of a "prototype cure" that koreans have found, wants to use it first on his now zombiefied dad. then make a "proper sequel" using that
big fan of zombie movies, I love seoul station and train to busan they're both great movies. when this came up as a sequel, I was pretty excited but then I couldnt even finish the damn movie. I still didn't. This is an abomination.
42:33 realistic UN response
They couldve made a train to busan sequel on the aftermath or made a similar new one and named it something else like ship to busan or something with a similar ish concept on a plane bus ship etc.
This
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Idk of a better movie example of cash grab that includes the last airbender the movie that made m night shamalyan a joke
It's not unbelievable that south korea would produce shallow sequels. The series Kingdom had a great 1st season and the second season was as if Hollywood produced it...
Went from humans trying to survive as the kingdom abandons them while a zombie outbreak spreads through the lands, it felt real, the characters felt like real characters - to a one-lady army that grew up with soldiers as their housemaid and gets taken advantage of by the men, at the same time she can take down a wild boar with a bow as she runs up and kicks/spins off a tree.
Second season?? You mean the prequel season, Ashin of the North (think that's the title)?? Because the second season was a continuation of the main story and was pretty good imo, although not as good as the first season.
AotN was.... Okay, I guess. I suppose it's decent enough as a set up of a new main villain. I'm just not entirely sure having a villain like that in a story that so far had more believable and interesting villains rather than a comic book style villain is a great idea.
You even pointed out Ashin's fighting abilities being over the top. She also kills a guy who just stares at her with his soldiers while she's notching an arrow at him. Slowly I might add. I was so baffled by that scene 🤣
Personally I would have maybe preferred if they didn't wrap the whole storyline with the first major outbreak, and the squabbling between Chang and the Cho clan over the throne in only two seasons. I feel like that story alone could easily have been more fleshed out over maybe 3-4 seasons instead of just 2 seasons.
I guess we'll just have to wait and see how the story develops beyond that.
@@Khenfu_Cake oh, yes! You're correct, it's a prequel 😄
It was so jarring watching the first seasons then the prequel right after. I enjoyed how the emperor's wife was handled, I dislike her as a person but love her as a character - I was excited to see how the prequel main character was going to be handled.
It would've been amazing if it was just more than 2 seasons, or maybe it's great because it only had 2 seasons?
@@Ni-boo I understand they wanted to focus more on the resurrection plant in the continuation of the story, but I much prefer when it was merely a plot device in a story about power, oppression, survival etc. The first two seasons also had the characters make believable decisions and it was great to have the truth about the plague revealed as the characters found out.
I especially loved how we saw the characters utilise what they knew about the undead's weaknesses to counter them. Like using fire and water to keep them at bay or funnel them into tight corridors so they are easier to combat.
Then we have AotN where there's a character who gets bit by a tiger that ate an infected deer. Yet somehow he doesn't turn?? I thought the premise was that eating infected meat is how the afflicted undead become infectious through bites?? I think that was the first worrisome sign for me that maybe the writers were starting to become more lazy with the story and instead just focusing on what looks cool or something.
I didn't outright dislike AotN but it just doesn't live up to the first two seasons that well. I hope when they go back to the original characters it will pick up for me again.
Yes, Queen Cho was great. Same with her father. They obviously weren't likeable people but they had depth and you understood their motivations. With Queen Cho you understood why she behaved like she did because of both her upbringing by a cold, hard man who saw her largely as a pawn.
Which obviously wouldn't be unusual for a woman of her standing in that time period. Her role pretty much was always about what kind of connections between the ruling families she could make.
She knows f.ex. she's worthless as a queen if she doesn't birth a male heir to the throne. So that explains a lot of her actions.
I also appreciate they stuck with her conviction in her madness right til the end and didn't pull a condescending cheap sympathetic move like GoT did with Cersei lol.
@@Khenfu_Cake I agree, the plant itself was the least interesting thing about the story. The characters carried the show, even though it was such a simple plan I thought it was amazing when they used the kites to aid in battle.
I had hoped the steps it took to infect someone in AotN was just a stage the infection had to go through to end up as what we got in the first seasons. AotN wasn't the worst thing out there but it's pretty bad, for me at least haha.
What made me take queen cho seriously was the bath scene where it was shown that she wasn't pregnant and it made sense why she was so confident that she would have a son, I also love/hate how she plays on her position as the prince's mother even though she is younger than him. I think the only character that could have used more scenes was queen cho's brother, not that he needs to be more than what he was.
I think we should stop comparing things to Hollywood productions. Clearly Korean production companies can make incompetent media too.