Rumor has it that, in order to capture the essence of a lawless wasteland full of ravaged cannibals, the directors and producers just filmed a normal day in Philly and greenscreened the actors into the footage.
A lot of it was CGI zombie digitally added post production. That's how they were able to create the insane zombie snowball and the zombie tower of Babel. These could never be done with human actors or practical effects as it defies the laws of physics.
The book is absolutely great, because it doesn't settle into one genre. Each interview has a different vibe, some VASTLY so. Some war, some horror, some character drama, some mystery. There's even an anime-action episode with a blind zen bushido guy!
In my opinion WWZ would be great as an anthology series with interviews with the characters at the beginning and end of each story. Similar to HBO' Band of Brothers
That right there is why I think it did so well. It establishes rules right away in a very organic manner and builds all of the action and a lot of the drama around playing those rules out in every scene, almost like a game.
@@Tyler_Wit constantly broke its own rules with infection time. This movie is good for dumb fun, and really only decent if you turn it off when the plane crashes lol
It says enough when the film you state prior, isn’t even a zombie film. The night walkers are more akin to vampires, but it was still the most esteemed zombie themed film that had been released.
My favorite part of the whole “zombie apocalypse” scenario is the beginning of the outbreak and how society collapses and seeing how almost all zombie or infected movies and shows focus on the post apocalypse aspect I liked how WWZ focused on the beginning. I also love the game and I appreciate how it’s still being updated and worked on to this day with new content.
@@yael8754 I know, right. For me the beginning is the most interesting aspect of Z story telling. This is where WWZ movie should have been about Jerry interviewing survivors and ‘flash backs’ to tell the story.
@@craiggillett5985Fear jumped too soon tho. We basically go from normal with unexpected events to basically the Walking Dead 2.0 in the span of a few episodes.
I still love the scene where he took caution and was ready to jump off if he starts turning. It just adds realism to the fact that he is a family man above all else.
World War Z is one of the best audiobooks I've listened to, and the amount of thought that went into the logistics of a zombie war is incredible. I would've never considered what it would be like to clear zombies out of places like the paris catacombs, the ocean floor, etc.
The first book, Max Brooks Zombie Survival Guide, has mentions that the virus has basically always been apart of mankind throughout history. Essentially becoming lost and buried with time
Yep, we got a little intro to the virus in the graphic novel that showcases its showing up in different cultures and times. The Egyptian one is the best though i don't remember if it was in the graphic novel or If read it somewhere else.
I was one of the extras during the chaos scene that was supposed to show Philly. it was actualy filmed in St George Square in Glasgow Scotland and me and my friends just decided to submit our names for the scene. it was actually very organized in terms of how people were running in groups. I was part of Group B3 or B4 (it was a really long time ago) and each group had a specific time when they would start running. everything was timed strictly.
Please, if you haven't, listen to the audiobook presentation of the novel. It's very well made and it has great voice actors like Mark Hamill in it. Also it's a very logical take on zombies, I think.
To emphasize how right you are, my introduction to WWZ was just skimming a synopsis or two of the book and I scoffed it off. When the movie came out, they were selling the book at work and I eventually took one to the break room. I just jumped to a random part of the book, which turned out to be the part involving people trapped in their cars during "The Great Panic"...it quickly made a believer out of me. It hits so different in how detailed and sensible things actually are once read out in full. The movie is bad on its own, but it's just blasphemy in context of the source material.
I read the physical book and it's amazing. There's also a comic book set in the same universe also written by Max Brooks which goes over how ancient the zombie infection actually is, and has scenes from different points of history beginning with the stone age. Highly suggest checking it out. This movie is one of the worst adaptations and only served to ruin any chance of a more faithful adaptation releasing to theaters any time soon. Brad Pitt is a scoundrel for what he did.
I love how the zombie behavior is inspired by animals. They build bridges like ants and lunge like tigers. The way the movie and video game portrays the zombies are outright horrifying and it’s easy to understand why so many militaries failed to contain them, as opposed to the book where it said the US Army failed an offensive against the zombies, whom are similar to the Walking Dead versions. Rick Grimes and Joel Miller couldn’t put up with this shit
Yeah the us army losing to (book)wwz zombies at Yonkers was dumb I get there was millions but you’re telling me all those heavy vehicles like mraps, tanks, humvee etc couldnt be used as a barrier or hell even civilian vehicles would’ve been a better than an open bridge and sand bags
@@Mr.Doodlebob Enough zombies can move anything. The problem is that nothing moving so slowly should feel threatening. They could've literally burned the zombie hoards as slowly as they walked.
@@TheTillmanSneakerReview Wasnt it what they tried to do but it failed? From my memories the main problem why military lost was because they fought them as regular people but shell shock, body shots, fire etc. didnt stop them and then the discipline of soldiers fell off.
@@LaFleurCZ Pretty sure that the army was also overconfident, underestimated the zombies and didn’t even have enough ammo for their weapons because they were trying to look good for the local media to boost public morale and support for the war
@@starset4life175 Yeah. But from I remember the main reason was still "outdated" tactics against zombies which didnt work. There is a big section where army has to learn new ways of fighting, new weapons designed against zombies were made etc.
First time I consumed the book was through audiobook! So immersive and with the different voice actors you can really feel the difference in the different accounts of the outbreak. Totally agree with you, I definitely recommend the audiobook!
I remember this was actually the first zombie film I saw as a young teen, and through it I very quickly discovered one of my greatest fears: Mass panic. The scene where the outbreak begins in Philly genuinely shook me up, watching people screaming and running and desperate because they didn’t know what was happening and therefore had no idea what to do about it. That shot with the streets overrun with terrified civilians running every which way scared the crap out of me, and I’ve found that similar scenes in other films have the same effect. I dunno if it scares other people as much as it scares me but it really gets to me for some reason.
im the total opposite, i discovered my love for (fictional) mass panic or js general chaos through this movie and the train to busan movie. i watch apocalypse films purely to see human chaos and the different post-apocalyptic settings (i love it when the streets are bare and silent) lmao.
World War Z is one of my favourite zombie movies. I think a good way to continue with WWZ is to make a series consisting of 9 episodes telling 3 stories from 3 different people's pov. 1 - a regular 9-5 person surviving by moving from place to place 2 - an off the grid person coming in contact with zombies and has no idea what happened to the outside world 3 - and then finally end it with patient zero and the days leading up to the outbreak with episode 9 showing the outbreak happen and the chaos that followed.
if you look closely at one point where capaldis shadow is shown casting on the wall he looks exactly like beavis from beavis and butthead. lol i Remember busting out laughing in the theater when i saw it.
Have you considered doing a video on the Maze Runner trilogy as part of your zombie movie theme? I never see them be talked about outside of "the dystopian film era was fun" type of context, but I think the worldbuilding and ethical questions deserve another look
I think it's also heavily implied that the virus originally took way longer and evolved to turn so quick, so different mutations of the virus in different places could still be "older" strings that don't turn this fast
When ever I’m in the mood for a great ‘mindless’ piece of apocalyptic action I rewatch this movie. It always delivers- interestingly I have noted that I pick up a lot more detail and other sub plots going on in the background, crowd scenes, supermarket, the fall of the walled city. The attention to detail and context is rather well done. This was an excellent summary and POV, one of the best I’ve watched. Thank you.
I 110% recommend either the book or the audiobook. The audiobook in particular is incredible, with different actors playing the different characters throughout the book. Absolutely phenomenal.
I feel like in the movie, and possibly the game since it is set in the same universe, it is implied that the virus originated in South Korea, and patient zero in the movie was a soldier in camp Humphrey. Maybe they did want to have China to be where the solanum virus originated, but changed it due to China being butthurt about seeing their country being portrayed as villains. Which is funny 'cause in the book, China underwent a civil war, and became a democracy with a declined population. I also would like to point out the irony that years after WWZ, a South Korean movie called Train To Busan would come out, and the zombies on there would be portrayed similarly to the zombies in WWZ.
And it had the origins as well, a chemical or biological industry doing messed up stuff, honestly if they could connect these two films it would have been a great reveal, yeah but we need to discard Train to Busan 2, horrible movie
Dawn of the dead 04 still holds weight in my heart when I think of zombies we don't want. There are so many unanswered questions, and that's the real-life point of view
WWZ is still one of my absolute favorites and go to movies ever. I would put it on in the background while doing laundry or cleaning the house. I've probably seen it at least 150 times and each time is like the first. I love it!
I wouldn't say I watched it that many times but every time I enjoyed it none the less, even if I knew what was coming the scene always managed to feel fresh, I read the book as well, really cool and a grounded take, you can give that a try as well.
OMG SAME! everyone i know either hates or doesnt care for it so i thought i was pretty weird for always watching it when theres nothing else to watch hahahaha
Was feeling a bit down today and seeing this cheered me up heh. just watched World War Z a few days over the holidays so really excited to hear your thoughts on the movie. much love thrifty, you make excellent videos keep it up
I highly recommend reading the book and looking into that cause it's fantastic Zombie fiction and has some absolutely great moments. Also the abridged audiobook is great and has Mark Hamil and some other actors as voice actors for certain characters. The movie is a fun action movie but the book has much deeper and more interesting lore overall about the global Zomebie war.
Dude, you gotta listen to the audiobook. I'm listening to it again right now, and it's quite incredible. You won't regret it. Get the full version, not the abridged versions that go up on youtube. You owe it to yourself, and it's very much worth it.
The book "WWZ" was awesome. I had always envisioned it as a great miniseries. The neutered movie version was, as you mentioned, generic. All it takes for a middle-aged white man and his ineffective family to survive is that the lead is untouchable surviving not only a zombie apocalypse but the initial outbreak where everyone gets out of his vehicle's way, running into an overrun pharmacy to get medicine, surviving several international outbreaks, and my fave: surviving a freaking plane crash full of the undead, etc. I always wondered what something true to the book that showed how folks from all walks of life endured. The opening outbreak in China, the initial wealthy infected business man that was in a luxury hotel in Paris, the Indian military man that witnessed a mountain side being blown up along with thousands of refugees and infected, the small town residents holed up in a church hearing the hoardes descending on their group, the woman military officer that was fighting her way atop an elevated highway, the "safe house" full of wealthy celebrities being overrun...that would be an incredible series.
Nice to hear a positive take on this movie for once. Most people just shit on lol The Philadelphia part of the movie is always my favorite part to watch for some reason. Just feels simple and done right. The last act is a bit meh but still does a decent job of wrapping everything up.
I'm a big fan of the book, and when I heard they were making this I was excited. However, I eventually heard that it wouldn't be an adaptation faithful to the spirit of the book, I was annoyed but still keen to see it. If I had not known that going in I would have been pissed. I think using the name and Pitt made sure it'd pull in a decent audience and make a bit of cash. Over the years, and a few more re-watches, I've come to appreciate it for what it is, and woudln't mind a sequel, either in the world they've created or one that pulls more heavily from the book. I really want to see the battle of Yonkes on the big screen.
I’m love both the book and the movie. The book gave us a in depth look at the real ramifications of a zombie apocalypse. And the movie gave us a full on rabies/ horde style of the infection. They’re different entities entirely, but IMO, they’re both pretty good.
I saw this in the theater with my dad and we had a blast. I never saw it again since then and kept thinking it was kind of disappointing for a zombie movie, until I saw it with my girlfriend a few weeks ago. She loved it and it made me realize that this movie still rocks. Gerry as a protagonist is really really good and the way the movie takes you on this journey with very interesting set pieces hasn't been matched since. Also shoutout to the folks who put the soundtrack together, this was my first exposition to Muse and I've been hooked ever since lmao
Man, World War Z is one of my favorite movies ever, the movie was perfectly executed, and it shows a very frightening way the start of an event like this can happen.
4 months late but I haven’t seen anyone answer the “how did a zombie get on the plane” question towards the end of the video. When the plane is flying out of Jerusalem if you look closely you can see a zombie climbing in through the cargo hold! Suuuuper easy to miss
The book also spent a good bit of time discussing the economics of the war period. The US retreats to East of the Rockies, and then the army has to reorganize in a way that's cost efficient facing a new type of war. So more rifles and shovels and less tanks and jets. There's entire chapters on the economic reorganization. I think there's Army blimps at the end
I absolutely love this movie. The book is also fantastic, and I highly, highly recommend listening to the audiobook version. It is far and away the best and highest-quality audiobook I have ever listened to.
Idk if anyone's said it but I like that the start of the movie was filmed in Glasgow city in Scotland :) Was cheaper to film here weirdly enough. I remember going on set and seeing all the stuff they were doing, adding street lights and stuff. Was really cool
@@dungeonsanddobbers2683Well I never said anything about a "because", I just said it was cheaper. It's obvious that our street layout works because Britain's grid-like street design inspired a lot of American architecture :)
I started with the movie, played the game, and then finally took the book with me on a trip to sit down and read it. I love all three for each of their lore, each of their perspectives. I am a huge sucker for stories of collaboration against impossible odds, of the overwhelming horror of what should be an impossibility... and what it means when people stand against it, to meaningful effects.
I especially liked that the main character was a good person, not someone flawed, working for some sort of redemption. That is such an overused trope. I also was very happy that there was no stupid love interest wedged in, his wife was age appropriate, and no one looked like a model. This was not super scary, but a great adventure nonetheless.
I loved the book and the thing I think I remember the most is I was in college and was a part of the RPG club. I joined a game that was a zombie survival RPG and the Game Master had us do a sort of online test for our stats as session 0 and then session 1 he says "The zombie apocalypse starts right now, what you have on you or in your car is your starting gear." and I kinda laughed and pulled out my copy of the "Zombie Survival Guide" from my bag. There was much chuckling.
This really was the show that got me into zombie films and series. I was around 12 or 13 when it came out, and while TWD was out, no one in my family was interested in watching it, but we were very much into action films regarding diseases and disasters. So we watched World War Z, and liked it. And it got my mum and I very much into the modern zombie, so much so that when I was 14 we began watching TWD (originally starting with season 2). Now I'm nearly 24, and still very much in love with apocalypse stories. And its all thanks to this movie.
I've always said this is an awesome zombie movie but a terrible World War Z movie. It should have been a ten part miniseries to be more faithful to the book.
I feel like The Zombie Survival Guide could be mixed in as well, giving tips in each episode to further flesh out the stories from World War Z-like things people learned were useful
The book is so good! But I wanted to tell everyone who hasn't read it to do the audio version. Even if you've read it, but haven't heard the audio version, definitely pick it up. It's an example of when the audio book is much better. Ask Thrifty said, it's a completely different story in every way possible, but what makes the audio version so good is that the book is written as a series of interviews, and the voice acting in the audio version is outrageously good. These people tell their stories and it just comes to life in your head. So damn good!
I’ve always wanted to play this game but I don’t want to do it solo, the movie always excited me a lot to watch, but I do think that a movie based on the actual book would be awesome
I think World War Z is extremely underrated. Yes, its adherence to the book is minimal, at best, but as a film on its own merits, I consider one of the better zombie films.
The book is awesome for a similar reason the movie is, the multiple perspectives of the zombie outbreak and its progress. Some groups fail hard, some survivors do miraculous things, and each story being part of the whole "zombie war" makes the world seem very vivid. The book is better at the range of individual stories and those people handled their part of the world during the outbreak.
I'm glad someone is talking about this movie because I thought it was really well done. Knowing more about the production of this movie and how it was written really puts into perspective how it could have been a disaster, usually movies that do that ad-hoc style writing fail and the directions that were suggested would have been abysmal. I liked a lot that it covered a few different avenues that was mentioned in this video. It's definitely one of my favorites, slow moving zombies are interesting but not nearly as terrifying as fast ones, 28 Days Later really got me hooked on the fast moving zombies idea as well as the idea of the zombies still being alive, instead of a walking dead type of scenario. I've always enjoyed the thought play of trying to make it as realistic as possible, maybe it's rabies or a genetically altered virus or perhaps bacteria, the element of using an otherwise death sentence illness that's actually curable as camouflage was a really interesting idea, I don't think someone had introduced before (correct me if I'm wrong.)
I absolutely loved this movie. It clearly wasn’t trying to push any agendas and wasn’t trying to be overly serious, it was just pure entertainment and it did what fans always ask for in showing the first day/week of an apocalypse! I’ll forever love this film even if it was never gonna win academy awards etc. Thanks for putting a spotlight on it with your fantastic commentary!
Honestly why can't we have great over the top action with zombies? They could've made so many different scenarios from the original story, focus on the battle for Moscow, the battle of Yonkers, literally anything happening on Africa, China, etc...
China? Yeah good luck with that, for any media trying depict that authoritarian cesspool in any slightly negative ways gets banned instantly and that's why you never see 'em in any of the disaster movies or games. Books are the only medium with enough balls to do so. Try asking the PLA to stage a scene in Beijing of soldiers suppressing zeds, nah that will never happen.
To me World War Z has always been a small treasure full of gems. The iconic soundtrack by Muse, the bonechilling zombie sound effects and the amazing CGI are what makes it a unique and exciting experience. Build around a lore that was (probably unintentionally) left vague so that the plotholes and some sloppy writings have little to no effect on the art of the movie. An icon of the zombie genre.
My favorite scene has got to be the cop going into the store and just stealing supplies. It truly makes you realize how chaotic the initial outbreak is.
I first watched the movie years before the game. Then, when i realized there was a game, i got it in 2021, and i can't stop playing it. Now im a large fan of it. Still playing to this day
My roommate and I both read World War Z and ended up walking out the theater. It wasn’t even bad but not different which is what made the book special.
10:15 It's a goddamn cliché to reiterate the ol trope about comedy; DELIVERY: ---is everything ---can turn a plain ol bunch of words forming a sentence into virtually ANY DESCRIPTION & END RESULT you want ---sometimes is what MAKES people funny, especially those who ain't funny or sarcastic or ANYTHING via text... but in PERSONNNNNN... well... "ya had to be there/it's HOW u said it/ya gotta hear it, doesn't work on text," etc., etc..... And u my friend, NAILED one of the funniest deliveries of an "it's funny cuz it's true!/"if ya know, ya know" type joke.. I rewound it not once, not twice, but THRICE... had me "LOLing" each time 😅😅😅
I haven’t played it in a while but The game is actually lowkey wild, especially when you get overran. This is definitely my second or third favorite Zombie universe because of how aggressive they are and how hectic it is. I also wanted to say I loved the level up and battle pass note you added especially the Doctor Who at W.H.O joke😂😂. I’m also going to use this time to finally use the member emoji things
Thank you so much for not equating a zombie outbreak to freaking Covid You don’t know how many comments I have read where people are like I can’t believe we just lived through this It’s ridiculous Great video
I wonder what if they did a reboot? Would they do on television or as a feature film? Would they be more accurate to the book or just do its own thing again.
I always found it really really weird that Cardiff airport was still up nd functional. Like it's Wales' most inhabited city surely it'd go down quick time
Fun fact, the movie had decent popularity in Serbia because the pilot around 9:51 is one of our popular actors, so people were kinda hyped to see one of our actors in a movie with a big name like Brad Pitt. Tho, as per usual, he does a Russian impression. A lot of American movies and shows hire Serbian actors and ask them to do a Russian accent. It's the same with the guy who played Colossus in Deadpool (and was also the main guy in the episode Secret War, of Love, Death & Robots).
You should get the audio book 'World War Z : The Complete Edition', its great listen. At just over 12 hours long and with so many well known actors for each chapter of the book. Mark Hamill, Martin Scorsese, Alfred Molina, Carl Reiner, Henry Rollins, Alan Alda and many more. Also the companion book 'The Zombie Survival Guide' has great tips on surviving the upcoming zombie apocalypse.
That Straczynski script sounds like it would have been a great adaptation of the book, particularly the sections of WWZ that go into the politics. The book is a dive into what might happen in a zombie outbreak following up on Brooks' earlier Zombie Survival Guide. It tries to put together some credible (for zombie fiction) science for zombies as a viral infection, and then extrapolates the path of a pandemic and an eventual plan to restore humans to the top of the foodchain. It'd make great long-form TV but isn't exactly movie material, given that it's a series of interviews with survivors and doesn't have a PoV character.
As someone who lives near Philly, I was one of the extras in the mega breakout Philly scene. It was so damn fun and my first and last time being an extra
4:36 I like how WWZ and Train to Busan (probably some other zombie movies too) manage to do these kinds of obvious things unlike the bigger and more knows zombie movies and series (not saying WWZ isn't big, just pointing it out.)
I just find the movie cool, it’s gonna be hard to put into words but I’ll try. The fact that this movie is about the start of the zombie apocalypse is such a cool concept on its own but then we learn about how to make a vaccine for it. There is so many people infected and others who aren’t that…yeah, it would be another world war. Humanity vs. The Virus. Idk how to describe it but it’s just so cool how the humans were able to take back control from an impossibly large threat. This is the best I can describe my feelings towards this movie. It’s just awesome
Alot of people don't realize that the driver of the garbage truck was seizing during the scene where he was plowing through traffic. I bet he was getting taken over or even already taken over and was sick in the seatbelt with his foot still on the accelerator.
World War Z is one of my favourite movies, not only was it a great adaptation of a great book but the first scenes set in Philadelphia were actually shot in my home city of Glasgow, Scotland.
Wish they just called this movie something else, because it's one of the best zombie movies of the past decade and people just can't get past the fact that it isn't the plot of the book.
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Rumor has it that, in order to capture the essence of a lawless wasteland full of ravaged cannibals, the directors and producers just filmed a normal day in Philly and greenscreened the actors into the footage.
I 100% believe it.
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As someone born & raised in PA I can confirm this 🖤💛
A lot of it was CGI zombie digitally added post production. That's how they were able to create the insane zombie snowball and the zombie tower of Babel. These could never be done with human actors or practical effects as it defies the laws of physics.
@@jonfreeman9682he was joking
The book is absolutely great, because it doesn't settle into one genre. Each interview has a different vibe, some VASTLY so. Some war, some horror, some character drama, some mystery. There's even an anime-action episode with a blind zen bushido guy!
Wtf ok I’ll read it
check, but uhm what is the naam of the book ?
Exactly, it would fit more in a series, an anthology of stories
@mr.flupsurf2860 world war Z is the book.
@@AMARTmtzhonestly get the audiobook is so much more immersive
In my opinion WWZ would be great as an anthology series with interviews with the characters at the beginning and end of each story. Similar to HBO' Band of Brothers
Kind of like how the book was written... I agree wholeheartedly
We NEED a limited run series based on the books!
I’ve been saying this since I first read the book years ago! It just doesn’t work as a movie and that was made plainly obvious!
Yeah I read the book. It’s exactly like your idea. I lasted 2.5 ‘chapters’
@@JC_Calibook, there only one
The stuffed animal countdown to the infection taking over is still one of my favorite scenes in a zombie film
Nothing can beat 28 weeks later run scene in my opinion, but yes, that is a great scene.
God you have terrible taste🤣🤣🤣. This movie was garbage in every way possible and that scene you mentioned is one of the dumbest.
That right there is why I think it did so well. It establishes rules right away in a very organic manner and builds all of the action and a lot of the drama around playing those rules out in every scene, almost like a game.
Is this the only zombie movie you’ve seen?
@@Tyler_Wit constantly broke its own rules with infection time. This movie is good for dumb fun, and really only decent if you turn it off when the plane crashes lol
This was a sign of zombies peaking at mainstream. A Brad Pitt zombie movie… the closest thing prior was Will Smith in I am Legend
HAHAHA You’ve caught on to my trend of recent videos
The creatures that movie were more like vampires than zombies
It says enough when the film you state prior, isn’t even a zombie film. The night walkers are more akin to vampires, but it was still the most esteemed zombie themed film that had been released.
My favorite part of the whole “zombie apocalypse” scenario is the beginning of the outbreak and how society collapses and seeing how almost all zombie or infected movies and shows focus on the post apocalypse aspect I liked how WWZ focused on the beginning. I also love the game and I appreciate how it’s still being updated and worked on to this day with new content.
Agree the ‘fall’ of this and Fear the Walking Dead, both captured the ending really well.
Same! I love the beginning of the outbreak in zombie movies but it's never something that any movie directs much attention to.
@@yael8754 I know, right. For me the beginning is the most interesting aspect of Z story telling. This is where WWZ movie should have been about Jerry interviewing survivors and ‘flash backs’ to tell the story.
Agreed, I'm still mad that Fear jumped to everyone in camps - a settlement in all but name - so early in its run
@@craiggillett5985Fear jumped too soon tho. We basically go from normal with unexpected events to basically the Walking Dead 2.0 in the span of a few episodes.
I still love the scene where he took caution and was ready to jump off if he starts turning. It just adds realism to the fact that he is a family man above all else.
World War Z is one of the best audiobooks I've listened to, and the amount of thought that went into the logistics of a zombie war is incredible. I would've never considered what it would be like to clear zombies out of places like the paris catacombs, the ocean floor, etc.
The first book, Max Brooks Zombie Survival Guide, has mentions that the virus has basically always been apart of mankind throughout history. Essentially becoming lost and buried with time
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Thus lost civilizations
Easiest book I ever read!
Max Brooks....son of Mel Brooks
Yep, we got a little intro to the virus in the graphic novel that showcases its showing up in different cultures and times. The Egyptian one is the best though i don't remember if it was in the graphic novel or If read it somewhere else.
I was one of the extras during the chaos scene that was supposed to show Philly. it was actualy filmed in St George Square in Glasgow Scotland and me and my friends just decided to submit our names for the scene. it was actually very organized in terms of how people were running in groups. I was part of Group B3 or B4 (it was a really long time ago) and each group had a specific time when they would start running. everything was timed strictly.
So funny! Groups B3 and B4 were my favorite parts of the movie. Nice job!
It's just "George Square", friendo.
@@dungeonsanddobbers2683 So you got salty because of the St?
Please, if you haven't, listen to the audiobook presentation of the novel. It's very well made and it has great voice actors like Mark Hamill in it. Also it's a very logical take on zombies, I think.
To emphasize how right you are, my introduction to WWZ was just skimming a synopsis or two of the book and I scoffed it off. When the movie came out, they were selling the book at work and I eventually took one to the break room. I just jumped to a random part of the book, which turned out to be the part involving people trapped in their cars during "The Great Panic"...it quickly made a believer out of me. It hits so different in how detailed and sensible things actually are once read out in full.
The movie is bad on its own, but it's just blasphemy in context of the source material.
Yes way better then the movie!!
It really is good, and it blows this movie away. I hated the movie.
I read the physical book and it's amazing. There's also a comic book set in the same universe also written by Max Brooks which goes over how ancient the zombie infection actually is, and has scenes from different points of history beginning with the stone age. Highly suggest checking it out. This movie is one of the worst adaptations and only served to ruin any chance of a more faithful adaptation releasing to theaters any time soon. Brad Pitt is a scoundrel for what he did.
@@phillipgonzlez8635 movie sucks
I love how the zombie behavior is inspired by animals. They build bridges like ants and lunge like tigers. The way the movie and video game portrays the zombies are outright horrifying and it’s easy to understand why so many militaries failed to contain them, as opposed to the book where it said the US Army failed an offensive against the zombies, whom are similar to the Walking Dead versions. Rick Grimes and Joel Miller couldn’t put up with this shit
Yeah the us army losing to (book)wwz zombies at Yonkers was dumb I get there was millions but you’re telling me all those heavy vehicles like mraps, tanks, humvee etc couldnt be used as a barrier or hell even civilian vehicles would’ve been a better than an open bridge and sand bags
@@Mr.Doodlebob Enough zombies can move anything. The problem is that nothing moving so slowly should feel threatening. They could've literally burned the zombie hoards as slowly as they walked.
@@TheTillmanSneakerReview Wasnt it what they tried to do but it failed? From my memories the main problem why military lost was because they fought them as regular people but shell shock, body shots, fire etc. didnt stop them and then the discipline of soldiers fell off.
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Pretty sure that the army was also overconfident, underestimated the zombies and didn’t even have enough ammo for their weapons because they were trying to look good for the local media to boost public morale and support for the war
@@starset4life175 Yeah. But from I remember the main reason was still "outdated" tactics against zombies which didnt work. There is a big section where army has to learn new ways of fighting, new weapons designed against zombies were made etc.
you really have to listen to the audiobook to get the full experience. totally different product but far superior imo
I never even thought about the audio book. I read the actual book a few times and loved it. I can listen to it at work.
First time I consumed the book was through audiobook! So immersive and with the different voice actors you can really feel the difference in the different accounts of the outbreak. Totally agree with you, I definitely recommend the audiobook!
I remember this was actually the first zombie film I saw as a young teen, and through it I very quickly discovered one of my greatest fears: Mass panic. The scene where the outbreak begins in Philly genuinely shook me up, watching people screaming and running and desperate because they didn’t know what was happening and therefore had no idea what to do about it. That shot with the streets overrun with terrified civilians running every which way scared the crap out of me, and I’ve found that similar scenes in other films have the same effect. I dunno if it scares other people as much as it scares me but it really gets to me for some reason.
im the total opposite, i discovered my love for (fictional) mass panic or js general chaos through this movie and the train to busan movie. i watch apocalypse films purely to see human chaos and the different post-apocalyptic settings (i love it when the streets are bare and silent) lmao.
World War Z is one of my favourite zombie movies.
I think a good way to continue with WWZ is to make a series consisting of 9 episodes telling 3 stories from 3 different people's pov.
1 - a regular 9-5 person surviving by moving from place to place
2 - an off the grid person coming in contact with zombies and has no idea what happened to the outside world
3 - and then finally end it with patient zero and the days leading up to the outbreak with episode 9 showing the outbreak happen and the chaos that followed.
This movie is such monumental for the genre. The big production value, actor, and scope of film is unheard of for a zombie movie.
The fact Peter Capaldi is the W.H.O. Doctor is such a funny coinkidink to the fact he becomes the Doctor Who later on in his career.
Not coinkidink 😂❤ this is so good tho haha yay 12!
if you look closely at one point where capaldis shadow is shown casting on the wall he looks exactly like beavis from beavis and butthead. lol i Remember busting out laughing in the theater when i saw it.
Have you considered doing a video on the Maze Runner trilogy as part of your zombie movie theme? I never see them be talked about outside of "the dystopian film era was fun" type of context, but I think the worldbuilding and ethical questions deserve another look
The affair plot line sounds like the first 2 seasons of the Walking Dead with Shane, Lori and Rick
Yeah I feel like that has to be part of why they didn’t do it. Didn’t wanna draw anymore comparisons to TWD
@@thethriftytypewriter Yeah and also it's a stupid idea
@@Cho0segoose worked for Shane, Rick and Rori but would not have worked here
Can't help but feel like WWZ would make a perfect mockumentary mini series.
also they said in the movie that a small percentage of the population takes around 10 minutes to turn, that’s how a zombie got on the plane
I think it's also heavily implied that the virus originally took way longer and evolved to turn so quick, so different mutations of the virus in different places could still be "older" strings that don't turn this fast
When ever I’m in the mood for a great ‘mindless’ piece of apocalyptic action I rewatch this movie. It always delivers- interestingly I have noted that I pick up a lot more detail and other sub plots going on in the background, crowd scenes, supermarket, the fall of the walled city. The attention to detail and context is rather well done. This was an excellent summary and POV, one of the best I’ve watched. Thank you.
My mom & I were fresh into our TWD obsession & we went to see this just for fun & we had a blast watching it in theaters!!
I 110% recommend either the book or the audiobook. The audiobook in particular is incredible, with different actors playing the different characters throughout the book. Absolutely phenomenal.
I feel like in the movie, and possibly the game since it is set in the same universe, it is implied that the virus originated in South Korea, and patient zero in the movie was a soldier in camp Humphrey. Maybe they did want to have China to be where the solanum virus originated, but changed it due to China being butthurt about seeing their country being portrayed as villains. Which is funny 'cause in the book, China underwent a civil war, and became a democracy with a declined population.
I also would like to point out the irony that years after WWZ, a South Korean movie called Train To Busan would come out, and the zombies on there would be portrayed similarly to the zombies in WWZ.
oh shit a coincidence!? i think not 😵
And it had the origins as well, a chemical or biological industry doing messed up stuff, honestly if they could connect these two films it would have been a great reveal, yeah but we need to discard Train to Busan 2, horrible movie
Dawn of the dead 04 still holds weight in my heart when I think of zombies we don't want. There are so many unanswered questions, and that's the real-life point of view
The Johnny Cash opening in that movie is fantastic.
@garbagebanditdayz819 Yes its definitely a staple my coworker played it once and I swear I had ptsd😂😂😂 .....loll like heard the noises and everything
I remember the online teaser video they put together to advertise the movie and being horrified by THAT. '04 Dawn of the Dead walked so WWZ could run.
Day of the Dead, is the one with the LEARNING ZOMBIES...Romero's best stuff.
WWZ is still one of my absolute favorites and go to movies ever. I would put it on in the background while doing laundry or cleaning the house. I've probably seen it at least 150 times and each time is like the first. I love it!
I wouldn't say I watched it that many times but every time I enjoyed it none the less, even if I knew what was coming the scene always managed to feel fresh, I read the book as well, really cool and a grounded take, you can give that a try as well.
OMG SAME! everyone i know either hates or doesnt care for it so i thought i was pretty weird for always watching it when theres nothing else to watch hahahaha
Absoultely one fo my favorite movies. Love having those conversations with friends about would you give up or try to survive depending on the zombies.
Was feeling a bit down today and seeing this cheered me up heh. just watched World War Z a few days over the holidays so really excited to hear your thoughts on the movie. much love thrifty, you make excellent videos keep it up
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I love the part where they lure the zombies to one spot and them bomb. Years of war experience and weapons building means they are easily defeated.
I highly recommend reading the book and looking into that cause it's fantastic Zombie fiction and has some absolutely great moments. Also the abridged audiobook is great and has Mark Hamil and some other actors as voice actors for certain characters. The movie is a fun action movie but the book has much deeper and more interesting lore overall about the global Zomebie war.
Honestly shocked he didn't... kinda makes his perspective... unqiue
Dude, you gotta listen to the audiobook. I'm listening to it again right now, and it's quite incredible. You won't regret it. Get the full version, not the abridged versions that go up on youtube. You owe it to yourself, and it's very much worth it.
The book "WWZ" was awesome. I had always envisioned it as a great miniseries.
The neutered movie version was, as you mentioned, generic. All it takes for a middle-aged white man and his ineffective family to survive is that the lead is untouchable surviving not only a zombie apocalypse but the initial outbreak where everyone gets out of his vehicle's way, running into an overrun pharmacy to get medicine, surviving several international outbreaks, and my fave: surviving a freaking plane crash full of the undead, etc.
I always wondered what something true to the book that showed how folks from all walks of life endured. The opening outbreak in China, the initial wealthy infected business man that was in a luxury hotel in Paris, the Indian military man that witnessed a mountain side being blown up along with thousands of refugees and infected, the small town residents holed up in a church hearing the hoardes descending on their group, the woman military officer that was fighting her way atop an elevated highway, the "safe house" full of wealthy celebrities being overrun...that would be an incredible series.
Agreed!
Where is NETFLIX to throw money AT THIS?!
Nice to hear a positive take on this movie for once. Most people just shit on lol The Philadelphia part of the movie is always my favorite part to watch for some reason. Just feels simple and done right. The last act is a bit meh but still does a decent job of wrapping everything up.
I'm a big fan of the book, and when I heard they were making this I was excited. However, I eventually heard that it wouldn't be an adaptation faithful to the spirit of the book, I was annoyed but still keen to see it. If I had not known that going in I would have been pissed. I think using the name and Pitt made sure it'd pull in a decent audience and make a bit of cash.
Over the years, and a few more re-watches, I've come to appreciate it for what it is, and woudln't mind a sequel, either in the world they've created or one that pulls more heavily from the book.
I really want to see the battle of Yonkes on the big screen.
They couldn't do the original book in one 2 hour movie. Maybe like a Netflix series
I’m love both the book and the movie. The book gave us a in depth look at the real ramifications of a zombie apocalypse. And the movie gave us a full on rabies/ horde style of the infection. They’re different entities entirely, but IMO, they’re both pretty good.
I saw this in the theater with my dad and we had a blast. I never saw it again since then and kept thinking it was kind of disappointing for a zombie movie, until I saw it with my girlfriend a few weeks ago. She loved it and it made me realize that this movie still rocks. Gerry as a protagonist is really really good and the way the movie takes you on this journey with very interesting set pieces hasn't been matched since. Also shoutout to the folks who put the soundtrack together, this was my first exposition to Muse and I've been hooked ever since lmao
Man, World War Z is one of my favorite movies ever, the movie was perfectly executed, and it shows a very frightening way the start of an event like this can happen.
You have terrible taste or you’re a paid troll. That movie sucked
4 months late but I haven’t seen anyone answer the “how did a zombie get on the plane” question towards the end of the video. When the plane is flying out of Jerusalem if you look closely you can see a zombie climbing in through the cargo hold! Suuuuper easy to miss
The book also spent a good bit of time discussing the economics of the war period. The US retreats to East of the Rockies, and then the army has to reorganize in a way that's cost efficient facing a new type of war. So more rifles and shovels and less tanks and jets. There's entire chapters on the economic reorganization. I think there's Army blimps at the end
I absolutely love this movie. The book is also fantastic, and I highly, highly recommend listening to the audiobook version. It is far and away the best and highest-quality audiobook I have ever listened to.
Idk if anyone's said it but I like that the start of the movie was filmed in Glasgow city in Scotland :) Was cheaper to film here weirdly enough. I remember going on set and seeing all the stuff they were doing, adding street lights and stuff. Was really cool
It's not because it's "cheaper", it's because Glasgows grid-based layout resembles those of American cities.
@@dungeonsanddobbers2683Well I never said anything about a "because", I just said it was cheaper. It's obvious that our street layout works because Britain's grid-like street design inspired a lot of American architecture :)
I started with the movie, played the game, and then finally took the book with me on a trip to sit down and read it. I love all three for each of their lore, each of their perspectives. I am a huge sucker for stories of collaboration against impossible odds, of the overwhelming horror of what should be an impossibility... and what it means when people stand against it, to meaningful effects.
I especially liked that the main character was a good person, not someone flawed, working for some sort of redemption. That is such an overused trope. I also was very happy that there was no stupid love interest wedged in, his wife was age appropriate, and no one looked like a model. This was not super scary, but a great adventure nonetheless.
The level up sections really got me😂
I've read the book so many times, I love the ending to the first chapter.
I loved the book and the thing I think I remember the most is I was in college and was a part of the RPG club. I joined a game that was a zombie survival RPG and the Game Master had us do a sort of online test for our stats as session 0 and then session 1 he says "The zombie apocalypse starts right now, what you have on you or in your car is your starting gear." and I kinda laughed and pulled out my copy of the "Zombie Survival Guide" from my bag. There was much chuckling.
3:36 real. Grocery shopping on a Sunday afternoon is insane
This really was the show that got me into zombie films and series. I was around 12 or 13 when it came out, and while TWD was out, no one in my family was interested in watching it, but we were very much into action films regarding diseases and disasters. So we watched World War Z, and liked it. And it got my mum and I very much into the modern zombie, so much so that when I was 14 we began watching TWD (originally starting with season 2).
Now I'm nearly 24, and still very much in love with apocalypse stories. And its all thanks to this movie.
I've always said this is an awesome zombie movie but a terrible World War Z movie. It should have been a ten part miniseries to be more faithful to the book.
I feel like The Zombie Survival Guide could be mixed in as well, giving tips in each episode to further flesh out the stories from World War Z-like things people learned were useful
The book is so good! But I wanted to tell everyone who hasn't read it to do the audio version. Even if you've read it, but haven't heard the audio version, definitely pick it up. It's an example of when the audio book is much better. Ask Thrifty said, it's a completely different story in every way possible, but what makes the audio version so good is that the book is written as a series of interviews, and the voice acting in the audio version is outrageously good. These people tell their stories and it just comes to life in your head. So damn good!
I’ve always wanted to play this game but I don’t want to do it solo, the movie always excited me a lot to watch, but I do think that a movie based on the actual book would be awesome
Ive played it since release, you will not have any problem queing with people. Im at lvl 999, and every lvl was gained while queing with randoms.
I think the book would be better adapted as an HBO series or something similar; with each episode covering a different survivor's account.
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I think World War Z is extremely underrated. Yes, its adherence to the book is minimal, at best, but as a film on its own merits, I consider one of the better zombie films.
The book is awesome for a similar reason the movie is, the multiple perspectives of the zombie outbreak and its progress. Some groups fail hard, some survivors do miraculous things, and each story being part of the whole "zombie war" makes the world seem very vivid. The book is better at the range of individual stories and those people handled their part of the world during the outbreak.
I'm glad someone is talking about this movie because I thought it was really well done. Knowing more about the production of this movie and how it was written really puts into perspective how it could have been a disaster, usually movies that do that ad-hoc style writing fail and the directions that were suggested would have been abysmal. I liked a lot that it covered a few different avenues that was mentioned in this video. It's definitely one of my favorites, slow moving zombies are interesting but not nearly as terrifying as fast ones, 28 Days Later really got me hooked on the fast moving zombies idea as well as the idea of the zombies still being alive, instead of a walking dead type of scenario. I've always enjoyed the thought play of trying to make it as realistic as possible, maybe it's rabies or a genetically altered virus or perhaps bacteria, the element of using an otherwise death sentence illness that's actually curable as camouflage was a really interesting idea, I don't think someone had introduced before (correct me if I'm wrong.)
I absolutely loved this movie. It clearly wasn’t trying to push any agendas and wasn’t trying to be overly serious, it was just pure entertainment and it did what fans always ask for in showing the first day/week of an apocalypse! I’ll forever love this film even if it was never gonna win academy awards etc. Thanks for putting a spotlight on it with your fantastic commentary!
Props for knowing that Matthew Fox was in, also love the new way of humor/edits for the vids
Love the consistent references to “Jack” lmao
Honestly why can't we have great over the top action with zombies? They could've made so many different scenarios from the original story, focus on the battle for Moscow, the battle of Yonkers, literally anything happening on Africa, China, etc...
Screwed the pooch for sure with this source material...
Hollywood is so incompetent and literally evil.
China? Yeah good luck with that, for any media trying depict that authoritarian cesspool in any slightly negative ways gets banned instantly and that's why you never see 'em in any of the disaster movies or games. Books are the only medium with enough balls to do so. Try asking the PLA to stage a scene in Beijing of soldiers suppressing zeds, nah that will never happen.
To me World War Z has always been a small treasure full of gems. The iconic soundtrack by Muse, the bonechilling zombie sound effects and the amazing CGI are what makes it a unique and exciting experience. Build around a lore that was (probably unintentionally) left vague so that the plotholes and some sloppy writings have little to no effect on the art of the movie. An icon of the zombie genre.
My favorite scene has got to be the cop going into the store and just stealing supplies.
It truly makes you realize how chaotic the initial outbreak is.
the best thing about the movie was the 5 second cameo of JACK SHEPERD
Loved your way of explaining ❤
I first watched the movie years before the game. Then, when i realized there was a game, i got it in 2021, and i can't stop playing it. Now im a large fan of it. Still playing to this day
I want to love the movie, but as a long time fan of the book and how it was structured. I can’t helped but feel robbed
I read the book when I was in highschool 15 years ago.
If I remember correctly it's a bunch of apocalypse stories in the zombie universe right?
Right also it’s your classic walker zombies. I love the book
@@issaicx I remember enjoying it. I'm pretty sure the author also did the guidebook in the zombie apocalypse. That was also great fun!
@@JDPOWERNO yes Max Brooks Zombie survival guide, which canonically exists in the World WarZ book.
My roommate and I both read World War Z and ended up walking out the theater. It wasn’t even bad but not different which is what made the book special.
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It's a goddamn cliché to reiterate the ol trope about comedy; DELIVERY:
---is everything
---can turn a plain ol bunch of words forming a sentence into virtually ANY DESCRIPTION & END RESULT you want
---sometimes is what MAKES people funny, especially those who ain't funny or sarcastic or ANYTHING via text... but in PERSONNNNNN... well... "ya had to be there/it's HOW u said it/ya gotta hear it, doesn't work on text," etc., etc.....
And u my friend, NAILED one of the funniest deliveries of an "it's funny cuz it's true!/"if ya know, ya know" type joke..
I rewound it not once, not twice, but THRICE... had me "LOLing" each time 😅😅😅
"12! TRAIN'S IN THE STATION!"
That line always hits hard.
I hope we get a series based on the book
The opening scene with muse is still one of my favorite opening scenes of any zombie movie to this day.
I feel like the book's story from what ive heard couldve worked as a mini seiries tho i havent read it
Wish it would've gotten a documentary type narration of the story like the book, would be a great time to see the after affects of a zombie apocalypse
Love love love your videos!
Have you ever watched any of the Walking Dead spin offs? Would you ever do episode analyses with the spin offs?
I haven’t played it in a while but The game is actually lowkey wild, especially when you get overran. This is definitely my second or third favorite Zombie universe because of how aggressive they are and how hectic it is. I also wanted to say I loved the level up and battle pass note you added especially the Doctor Who at W.H.O joke😂😂. I’m also going to use this time to finally use the member emoji things
I should probably update the member emojis 😂
@@thethriftytypewriter I guess i’m happy to have helped with that side of the channel 😂😂🙌🙌
world war z--gamertag: XanderVanripper
Did they ever update it? When I played it it was just hold down the trigger and you’ll be fine
@@mojothehelpermonkey1176 seems a bit different now but maybe I’m just bad at the game 😂
Thank you so much for not equating a zombie outbreak to freaking Covid
You don’t know how many comments I have read where people are like I can’t believe we just lived through this
It’s ridiculous
Great video
I wonder what if they did a reboot? Would they do on television or as a feature film? Would they be more accurate to the book or just do its own thing again.
With streaming, they’d most likely go the tv show route
I wanna se a WWZ series by HBO. Just imagine that.
WWZ is one of the best movies about the zombie theme. Still hoping for part 2.
I always found it really really weird that Cardiff airport was still up nd functional. Like it's Wales' most inhabited city surely it'd go down quick time
Fun fact, the movie had decent popularity in Serbia because the pilot around 9:51 is one of our popular actors, so people were kinda hyped to see one of our actors in a movie with a big name like Brad Pitt. Tho, as per usual, he does a Russian impression. A lot of American movies and shows hire Serbian actors and ask them to do a Russian accent. It's the same with the guy who played Colossus in Deadpool (and was also the main guy in the episode Secret War, of Love, Death & Robots).
Hey, it comes out on my birthday. Nice 🤟.
Happy birthday!!🎊🎁🎂
@@thethriftytypewriter Thanks man 😊👍.
i loved it when I watched it the first few times. Always a great watch without having to think about it too much
My guilty pleasure of a Hollywood movie lol
Corny but it's so good
If you look closely while the plane is taking off you can catch a glimpse of a zombie going into the plane as the wheels are retracted
Fun fact: Segen means deputy in Hebrew
Going to have to pick up the book now. I read Brooks' Devolution and it was fantastic.
Heard a sequel with Brad is a go last week.
i think the sequel is gonna happen
You should get the audio book 'World War Z : The Complete Edition', its great listen. At just over 12 hours long and with so many well known actors for each chapter of the book. Mark Hamill, Martin Scorsese, Alfred Molina, Carl Reiner, Henry Rollins, Alan Alda and many more. Also the companion book 'The Zombie Survival Guide' has great tips on surviving the upcoming zombie apocalypse.
I know this movie wasn't widely accepted but I really enjoyed this "new" runners zombie flick.
That Straczynski script sounds like it would have been a great adaptation of the book, particularly the sections of WWZ that go into the politics. The book is a dive into what might happen in a zombie outbreak following up on Brooks' earlier Zombie Survival Guide. It tries to put together some credible (for zombie fiction) science for zombies as a viral infection, and then extrapolates the path of a pandemic and an eventual plan to restore humans to the top of the foodchain. It'd make great long-form TV but isn't exactly movie material, given that it's a series of interviews with survivors and doesn't have a PoV character.
As someone who lives near Philly, I was one of the extras in the mega breakout Philly scene.
It was so damn fun and my first and last time being an extra
4:36 I like how WWZ and Train to Busan (probably some other zombie movies too) manage to do these kinds of obvious things unlike the bigger and more knows zombie movies and series (not saying WWZ isn't big, just pointing it out.)
I LOVED this movie and for so much chaos behind the camera, this turned out amazing.
I just find the movie cool, it’s gonna be hard to put into words but I’ll try. The fact that this movie is about the start of the zombie apocalypse is such a cool concept on its own but then we learn about how to make a vaccine for it. There is so many people infected and others who aren’t that…yeah, it would be another world war. Humanity vs. The Virus. Idk how to describe it but it’s just so cool how the humans were able to take back control from an impossibly large threat. This is the best I can describe my feelings towards this movie. It’s just awesome
Alot of people don't realize that the driver of the garbage truck was seizing during the scene where he was plowing through traffic. I bet he was getting taken over or even already taken over and was sick in the seatbelt with his foot still on the accelerator.
World War Z was a bad adaption of the book but a good zombies movie by itself.
World War Z is one of my favourite movies, not only was it a great adaptation of a great book but the first scenes set in Philadelphia were actually shot in my home city of Glasgow, Scotland.
Wish they just called this movie something else, because it's one of the best zombie movies of the past decade and people just can't get past the fact that it isn't the plot of the book.
I mean the fact that the book even says the boy's name who became "patient zero". Though most ppl prolly don't even know this is based off a book lol.
That wasn't a Colonel on that Naval ship, it was a Captain. Oh, and it's Sailors and Marines on the ship, not soldiers.