Judge "SETS ASIDE" Council Tax Liability Order: Court Officers Neglect Duties 💥💥💥
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If the council tax court cases arent numbered in the listings and its an administrative court and not a court of record, therefore a kangaroo court, no right of appeal etc, how can an unlaw court set aside an unlawful liability order?
The fact the Officers of the Court are behaving in this way is evidence you have them on the run 👍🏻
This is why knowing Fiduciary Law is so important - however, these people are not telling their viewers this are they!?
On the run from what Exactly changing the legislation ?
@@mikkyfinn1111 Admitting on Public Record the councils are acting illegally
@@Bruce4lmighty how ? By providing a Notice to a person ?
@@Bruce4lmighty well ??
You can't set aside something that does not exists.. 🤔
they did, which proves they will peddle the lies to save their little cult system
@@nicotoscani1707 my point is, if the court never produced the order, how can it cancel it, I may be wrong, but I stick to the basics..
@@spud7823fair point
Apparently the order does exist verbally, its just not provable lol
@@spud7823 That is true. What is also true is: (liability order voided in October 2003) i.e., Council Tax Handbook 13th Edition, p. 220: Form A to draft up "Liability Orders" was removed from Law in July 10th 2003 in Wales, and on the 1st of October 2003 in England, and NO FORM was substituted in the place of Form A.
God bless you all for standing up for themail truth.
In family court, the judge blatantly didn't follow the law, in my case and for a variety of reasons, including being told blatantly wrong legal advice by a solicitor (witnessed) the judge shouted at me that I was a liar (the solicitors tried to subtly blackmail me into not pursuing the matter), he put women and children in danger and he had a Non Molestation order on me which made my attending civil court I was literally committing an offence. And far, far worse - just some small examples - i saw the court lose evidence, lose records of official meetings in the court building, social services lie and falsify Court reports, solicitors not turn up, was forced to have a solicitor when I was adamant and clear I didn't want one (because they are so crap), saw the police retain evidence proving i was innocent of THE nastiest of offences and was never, ever allowed to speak or make representation in any way, though I could easily prove my malicious ex was winding the court around her little finger and lying about everything.
In one hearing she said not one true sentence - I knew she'd do it, just to mock them.
The police (Sussex Police) refuse to take a report or investigate her crimes - from child abuse and wasting police time (which their officers have seen, two female officers shaking with anger at what they saw, one weeping, being mothers themselves), to thefts, criminal damage, stunning and deliberate, unmitigated perjury, blackmail and more. I name and shame Judge Robinson sitting in Eastbourne, Helen Ingledew, social worker, liar and incompetent extraordinaire (easily provable), and indeed EVERY organisation feeding into the court was provably corrupt/inept, and I don't mean in any small way. EVERY attempt at complaint has been stonewalled. I have made a (long and boring but complete) video about it, entitled "UK family courts proof of corruption", it's here on TH-cam.
Good luck lads, because when our courts and police are gone, what us left of our country?
My childrens' lives were smashed to pieces - one, like me, emigrated in disgust after breaking down totally, to be with me overseas, one was literally driven insane (at age 12) by what he saw happening to his little little half brother (3 at the time), is now registered mentally ill and will be on benefits the rest of his life, one hurt so badly she withdrew into herself and sees a psychologist, and the last I have not seen for some 9 years, by the sheer spite of his twisted, sick mother and I literally don't know if he's alive or dead.
All this because I left her for another woman after finding hidden debts (yet again, having already bailed her out) and years of lies and manipulation - her entire life was a lie, she was leading a double life even as we started a family.
I was made homeless, she 'being in desperate need for herself and our son' - in fact she just put me out on the streets then rented it out. I had to fold my very successful small business meaning a massive VAT loss to the nation and 3 people made unemployed.
Well done Judge Robinson, i hope you're proud of yourself.
They should not be searching people to get in court.
they are corrupt, marc
As Marc said above, the courts are legal fictions and cannot act of themselves. Some officers of the court might be corrupt (and there are many ways of being corrupt) but when faced with the law, they have no choice but to follow the law. The ultimate aim here is to establish where the obligation arises, if at all. The Peace Keepers process is steadily going to get there. Right now, a knowledgeable lawyer could bag £21400 for proving the obligation but no one is coming forward! Why has the Black Belt Barrister not claimed the reward? That can only be because there is none.
@@lins3082 i agree.. its the ongoing manipulation that confirms them to be the corrupt s'bags that they are
Excellent work Mark well done 👏 keep going hopefully this all crumbels for the scam council tax really is ❤
He will just bring back form A and B then what argument does the slave have ??
@@mikkyfinn1111 form A and B ????
@@davasmith8452 the 2003 liability order written printed by the court . A or B singularly or bulk .
@@mikkyfinn1111 i thought they were printed and issued by the councils?
@@lins3082 that's typically how it goes.. muzzle until last second, then when you realise you didn't get a chance to put anything forward, you're being sentenced
This is a BIG shift thanks to Marc and you all.Good news.
Confused I am...as of 2003 no liability order...to date council giving bogus NOTICES of liability. Getting court to set aside liability order....🤯🤯🤯
(liability order voided in October 2003) i.e., Council Tax Handbook 13th Edition, p. 220: Form A to draft up "Liability Orders" was removed from Law in July 10th 2003 in Wales, and on the 1st of October 2003 in England, and NO FORM was substituted in the place of Form A.
Please read the source of your opinion - all that happened was Forms A and B were removed = obligation to make an order is unaffected and that leaves the court open to use what ever format it wants!!!
Exactly ...the order must be SPOKEN and RECORDED ..NO COURT RULES BEING FOLLOWED
Whilst you’re using government public property (surname = surety government debtor name) and opening their post and turning up to pay their debts or argue using their property/title, what do folk expect! Especially if you’ve registered their corporate name at your private home to vote in their company elections!
@trappedinroom1014 so how do you 'play' with no name?
'if the courts are corrupt, they would have net set asside the order'.... and then later says ' if they know they are being watched, their behaviour changes' ... (i.e. their objective to be corrupt again doesn't work in this instance)
@@lins3082 u been deleted also?
@@lins3082 my comments barely stick... and lots of them arent even saying anything that the loons would think is controversial
Hopefully this can be simplylied ...
Reasons why we should not be paying council tax .
There are no liability orders . So why are they still being produced?
Why are they being signed off in bulk and people told they dont need to attend court?
With the letter we have to send to councils ..they have so many questions to answer.. so if they either dont answer or only partially answer , what happens after the 30 days .please ?
I wish council tax would be abolished. If it was exposed to everyone and hello was available to challenge the aftermath of not paying, I think not one person would pay.
Thank you all so much for the sterling work you are doing, for me this whole issue isn’t really about Council Tax, its about the abuse of the system overall, no one objects to paying CT for local services if it is fair & proper system, negotiable & debatable, instead the current system is that payment is demanded without proof of obligation with implied menaces for non compliance by a corporate entity which cannot substantiate any authority, I look forward to the day when enough people refuse to consent & comply, then we will see CT abolished, but then the real battle begins because what replaces it will be even more draconian & detestable, here we go again.
Same here
Never Quit ❤
HURRAY! Music to my ears! And sooooo glad you recorded this meeting... since I couldn't be there :)
congrats mark
how can you have law fare with layman lawyers and judges ??.. if their lack of experience gives a lack of true justice and representation.. clearly there is a consistency of nasty unlawful habits getting carried out in all our courts!.. it only takes one domino to fall for injustice and by the way they are targeting people with bedroom tax in Scotland now again.. even though people in council housing that may have a small extra room are living in substandard housing with clearly smaller kitchens and bathrooms smaller than jail cells!..so it will be the same with bedroom tax? if you pay once your'e contacting just like council tax is that what the court is standing on?
Brilliant marc! 👏👏👏👌👌👌💕
you will never get those judges in a court
With an attitude like that you wont :) Use your creative powers and start by opening your mind to all possibility :) Move from victim mode into creator mode - make it happen :)
@@marchorn466 so what is your argument then ??? I.e what are you creating outside of new or reinforcement of old ?? What is the goal ??
@@mikkyfinn1111 Simple - know their duties and call them out for breaching them!
Goal - rule of law!
Absolutely right you can not sue a judge not unless s/he acts out of character of their duties,
So who is running the courts well it’s the man or woman who acts as the prosecutor that who , so hold s/he liable as a man or woman only and bring a claim against s/he for falls claim
Remember it’s the prosecutor that proposes s/he orders and it’s the judge that grants the orders,
So never answer or accept their legal title defendant and give them written notice to the court and the prosecutor at their address place of work /court .
Of who you are man
And what your not legal person defendant.
@@user-bq3og5pz9wNo idea what your point is...
An independent Judiciary...hmmmmm
I have just realised that all council tax increases are compounded increases as say 5% year on year and not 5% of the original fee, for want of a better word?
Not only have I had an increase but they have added a random extra £1000 to the bottom of the bill with no explanation
Ask them what it’s for and that you will not pay it until you have that
marc says: if the courts are corrupt, they would have never set aside the order'..... this is bad logic... there are fair judges within a corrupt system.. there are instances of fair judgements within a corrupt system... all you have to do is look at high profile court cases that are covered in media to know this... its in the court's interest to keep up appearances of fairness, even when hopelessly corrupt and actively working to use your ignorance against you to cause you harm
Totally agree..mark has lost the plot..
Courts are fictions and hence by impossibility cannot act so how can courts be corrupt.... It is their officers who might be corrupt, and that would depend on how you chose to define corruption... The 3 magistrates and legal advisor in my case were ignorant of their duties, and then when pointed out the legal advisor failed to correct the magistrates because she too appear ignorant of her duties... So if you call ignorance corruption then so long as we know in substance what we are talking about there is no issue :)
@@marchorn466 so by your own words law is fiction as law comes from courts ?? Wich are fiction in your own words
@@mikkyfinn1111 and that says the rules of equity prevail and guess what... equity is what is fair and just... so properly implemented law is humanities best understanding of truth... call that fiction if you want :)
@@pippamellon8678 I can think of a good analogy for it.. it's like saying that sony listens to its playstation customers because they've changed one videogame to suit their demands, and wouldn't have done that if they didn't care about what their customers thought.... but generally speaking they are pumping out trash all year round and doing all they can to violate peoples ownership rights
Your be lucky to get the order in a week they are so behind the courts
Yeah..2000 years behind.
😂😂😂😂
It now illegal and backed by case law that a 3rd party cannot collect unpaid c.tax and you can sue the collections for a minimum of 4k.
That isn't correct. If they have a physical LO then can absolutely collect unpaid CT. The issue is that they don't have it when asked for it.
1888 act please read it shows there job role and duties
1888 act look it up but read all of it it will explain who the person is since this has been a top topic and all libraries and duties and definitions
Lot of misinformation on this.
1/ When your Summoned for Non Payment of Council Tax.
the first Hearing is ''Council Controlled in a Court Room''.
2/ If you do not contest or do not attend this hearing it's dealt with by means
of the ''Bulk Order Process'' where a JP/ Magistrate signs
multiple Council Tax Liability Orders.
3/ These Orders are only recorded in a Register there is no Physical Order
made or produced by the Court.
4/ If you have contested the Summons and appeared at the first hearing your case is adjourned and
at the second hearing its in a Magistrates Court with either a JP or
Magistrate as Bench Chair.
Its slanted in Favour of the Claimant and they do all they can to
obstruct or belittle you and unless you have a water tight reason
or grounds etc then they hold for the Claimant [Council]
Again there is No Order Produced by the Court only a record in the Register.
No Order being produced is problematic for both sides and
should be handled with great care is seeking to use the
Non Issuance of an Order as the Means to stifle a Bailiff or
Enforcement Officer seeking to enforce Council Tax Non-Payment..
CBDC
Yes they are so desperate to roll it out so they can hide they can hide their disgusting habits
Marc, you say you will ask if Sutton magistrates have set aside those others on your bulk listing. It is known that magistrates courts do not acknowledge ct claims as theirs.
That is BS that the Council Tax Courts aren't hired. I have actually tangible proof i.e., a recording and a testimonial that the Council hire the Court and Magistrate to run their liability orders. But, what you all are forgetting is: (liability order voided in October 2003) i.e., Council Tax Handbook 13th Edition, p. 220: Form A to draft up "Liability Orders" was removed from Law in July 10th 2003 in Wales, and on the 1st of October 2003 in England, and NO FORM was substituted in the place of Form A. If you are going to tell your viewers something - then tell them something.
Yes so do I…my sister is an ex parole officer..she been to courts many times…she knows there hired…
If you have the tangible proof act on it... the court gets paid 50p per liability order application irrespective of number of applications on the day so your 'tangible proof' contradicts the facts on the ground... I know what any rational person would choose to believe. In regards the forms I suggest you go back to earlier videos where over 2 years ago we covered that so I would simply be repeating what we have already put out there... so sorry with context or evidence you comment is irrelevant and adds nothing to the conversation or solution :)
Fraud voids the claims in my eyes
@@terrymullins3292 Problem is until you have the court void the order a persons opinion as to whether it is void does not stop the order being enforced!!!
@@pippamellon8678 Well there you go then - So why have you not taken action by suing them of pressing criminal charges???
33:05 “When they know they’re being watched, their behaviour changes.”
Therefore they are demonstrably corrupt.
That’s a total contradiction of what you said earlier when you claimed that the courts are not corrupt, stating that they cannot be corrupt because you got the judgment in your favour.
This is what concerns me.
If the courts are operating according to the law, and in accordance with their own rules, why would their behaviour change when they are being watched??
Both statements cannot be true.
At the very least, it is obviously the case that the people working in each department, and each section and each level within each dependent operate WITHOUT specific knowledge of how the other people in the other departments, levels and individual sections operate.
This is not only how all bureaucratic systems operate, it’s how banks and corporations operate. It’s also how the most notorious crimes in human history have been perpetrated.
Therefore, it is naive and negligent to claim that the courts are not corrupt. Without full transparency and without full accountability, the system cannot possibly be anything OTHER THAN corrupt.
To set aside appears to mean the court see the process or judgement has no legal effect..it can be reserved as a new claim.had a friend set aside a civil matter and then rearranged the matter .he still lost to the original claimant but not as much money
yip and they are trying again on 12 august where substantive matters will be addressed as to legality and lawfulness of council tax which is where the problem lies - the sooner people stop the stupid rabbit holes and understand the problem the sooner it will be resolved...
what about the bedroom tax? Never anything about it.
why was that is easy? they are not allowed to deal with the living man/woman
What are you talking about? Are you saying they only deal with dead people?
I wish I’d have know you was in court mark id have drove to support you as I’m going threw this aswell Ballif’s at door for council tax I’m learning aswell any chance I can be informed next date to come support you thanks hope for a reply
Where can we find the 50 pages mentioned?
Stop judging, not all got the time you got. Single mums they prey on, they don't have this time. Get real
IMO they prey on house owners because they have something too go after, illegally though. The whole system is bent like a ten bob note.
That is one reason I set up the PeaceKeepers... But once your responsibilities get less and you get older and start to reflect on life you will... your time simply is not now :)
I got a count date for being late on council tax, I thought it would be interesting the day after my hearing to send a complaint telling the council I phoned the court and my name was not list they never told me and could of wasted my time. I never heard nothing about the fine in the end. What I know would have been got a £95, I thought it was really interesting experiment.
What’s happened now. Are you not paying ct .
I was only late, I’m up to date.
How do I say no to the cbcd😱🤷♀️
By taking out 5G masts👍
*"No".*
@@Zizzyyzz "no"won't help ,see the above👆👍
Chasing your tails as what is the Goal here ? Non payment ? Or the finding of the obligation is to person owned by HRH ??
Q1 What is the objective of this exorcise i.e what are you hoping to achieve Marc , Not pay the CT ?
As all i can see is you stating the court officers / Legals are not doing their job,hence what success are you hoping for ??
As whats to stop the Secretary of state / legislator bringing back form A or form B signed and sealed by the court ?
After that what argument is there to be had ?????
Q2 As the Obligation is to person (im not FMOTL) what argument would be left if form A and B were brought back ?
How does one identify the person without the use of crowncopyright.
😂😂😂 you no
Set aside just means it can be brought back at any time even if one appears at court for something else,
So why not have it discharge, gone for good and can never be brought back again
Only a debt can be discharged, CT isn't a debt. The question of whether CT is lawful needs to be decided in a court. This is why it needs to be kept active.
@@tcrookes2803
Anything can be discharged
the problem is people must learn how to move their own court at the courthouse public building county court and start a claim against a man or woman only ( never use their job title or ant title or legal codes acts statutes etc in one’s case )
Because their just moving a complaint which is not even a verifiable criminal complaint or a verifiable claim before a court ,
So never answer or step into their legal person ( defendant; Mr; Mrs; etc) always give the other side written notice of their error and correct that man or woman who is dealing with the case because it’s their case ( not your case ) ,
@@tcrookes2803dismissed is the word
@@tcrookes2803if it’s lawful and not legal then there must be another man or woman claiming the wrong, so why is it a complaint and not a claim and why is it at the magistrate court and not the county courts,
And why is there no verifiable criminal complaint or verifiable claim properly placed before the court, and why is there no live party sat there and will take the stand under oath or affirmation to swear thei claim is true, because dead men do not tell tails,
And many more questions,
So what’s really going on at the courthouse public building magistrate court, because it’s a quasi court but not a lawful court of record.
Unfortunately you highlight your lack of understanding... set aside means the order no longer exists = nothing to discharge!!!
29:18 Why was that?
Someone looks rather uncomfortable here.
The genuinely curious ask questions.
The basis of your argument is irrational... How does change behaviour = corrupt???
Read the rest of your comments as they apply to your irrational presumption they are based upon...
33:05 “When they know they’re being watched, their behaviour changes.”
Therefore they are demonstrably corrupt.
29:18 Why was that? - Like I said.... you need to ask them as I don't know the facts or their reasoning...
@@marchorn466 I’ve made the rash assumptions that you’re smart enough to figure out more than the relevance of, and links between various pieces of legislation.
But this response from you is seriously challenging my belief in my own intuition.
Try making sense.
@@G58 You claimed 'change in behaviour' = 'corruption'.... Hopefully makes more sense now?
You have lost me as to links between legislation - I see no reference to legislation in this thread???
@@marchorn466 Have you studied human behaviour? I have. I’ve also studied the meanings of words.
The fundamental limiting factor with the education system, is that the assumption is made that it’s only possible to have or practice one discipline.
However, this demonstrably untrue. Indeed, it is only possible to comprehend the world by applying multiple disciplines simultaneously to any given subject or situation.
It is by convincing the masses to remain in their allotted boxes that allows the powers that shouldn’t be to retain control.
So, when confronted with clear evidence of something as obvious as corruption, many people struggle to understand it for what it clearly is.
The fact is a man or women are or can be person just like a non domestic dwelling "can" be commercial due to persons within it hence the war of words ..
No man and woman are not a person
A person is a man or woman
how do i get on these zoom calls
Do the PK course, then you'll get access to the link.
Why on earth would you want to - you have your solutions set out in your in your above opinions???
doesnt apply to wales, ireland [if the irish are subject to this unlawful tax, that is] OR scotland. it would IF the legislation isnt law argument had been progressed then all communities of the british isles could oppose CT from the same stance, but cant.
If we got the time. Stop it Mark.
Mark cant help himself, he interrupts everyone. It like his voice is THE ONLY voice that matters. Is he incapable of listening to someone until they finish their point or question? Certainly seems so.
What is the Goal fr Marc? To prove the obligation ... the obligation is to Person ?
I have 4 persons my mate has 120 persons who is liable
E X C E L L E N T N E W S E V E R Y B O D Y .