Video is kinda faced paced, so here are the time stamps: 0:00 Why don't more people buy Porsche 944's? 0:40 Shop Owners love Porsche 944's 2:00 Porsche 944 - Inspect Timing Belt 3:02 944S & 944 S2 Cam Tensioners 3:33 Check all 944 Rubber hoses, especially fuel 3:54 Why Porsche 944 Vacuum Lines are so important! 4:33 Are Porsche 944 clutches a problem? 5:10 Save your Porsche 944 Transmission Sincros! 5:42 Porsche 944 Odometer gear: What's the true mileage? 6:50 Is the Porsche 944 Steering Rack leak Common? 7:05 Why Porsche 944 Motor Mounts are important 7:55 Why the 944 Transmission mount is also important 8:10 Porsche 944 DME Relay Warning: Change it now 8:38 How does a Galvanized Porsche 944 develop Rust? 9:47 Porsche 944's interior are incredible 9:56 Porsche 944 Dashboards: They also crack 10:21 Porsche 944 Rear Hatch separating: Common Problem 10:52 Final Thoughts on the Porsche 944 More Transaxle Videos HERE: th-cam.com/play/PLB1Br-75u6i1KlQz0_70MliGnFdG61bfV.html
Watched countless videos and at LAST someone who doesn't spend the first 5 mins talking about what is coming up in the video and just gets on with it. No nonsense, to the point, extremely knowledgeable, excellent advice. Superb. Only watched 2 videos and already subscribed
AYYYE! 944 Turbo owner in Miami here! Used to be all about 911s. Air and water cooled. Traded one for 2 944 Turbos and never looked back! I was hooked. The driving experience is some of the most fun Ive ever had in a car, and I look forward to my commute every day. Good info here for newcomers
@@HernanSpeed Yezzir! Especially after HEAVY modification 🔥😈🔥 maybe I’ll catch you at Cars & Coffee, or come down to Fox’s Lounge between Wed-Sat I’ll hook you up 🤙
I cannot emphasize enough on the last sentence he said. DO NOT BUY A PROJECT CAR, I REPEAT, DO NOT BUY A PROJECT CAR, BUY THE CLEANEST EXAMPLE YOU CAN FIND!!!!!!!!!!!!! That being said, hi! I am the guy who bought a 2k project 924S from 1987. It's been 5 years and I spent 35k on it. that is... only in parts. I do ALL the work myself. I did almost everything. brakes, suspension, steering rack and stuff, transaxle mounts, wiring, all vacuum lines, all sensors (yes, all) I've done the timing belt maybe 3 times but the waterpump and rollers disassembly maybe 10 times at that point, did all the engine seals, etc, etc... I always jokingly say there isn't a bolt I haven't touched on that car. But here's the deal. I just blew a headgasket (or my oil cooler seals, most likely, didn't do a compression check yet). I am the first owner who has maintained this car well. And for that reason, I get burned for it. Everything backfires on me. Every single bolt has fought me. Every single problem these cars are known for has happened to me (I had to weld the exhaust crack twice). Anyways, here's the catch: If you buy one, beware. Every single time I think about selling the car, I take one corner and I immediately tell myself "man what am I thinking! I can't sell that car!!!" Also, as he said in the video. There's no 944 that runs better than a stock but well maintained one, on which everything is basically new. when tuned properly (you can adjust the maf to make it read and flow more air because they come lean from factory) they become alive. I can't stop thinking about that car while it's sitting in my parking spot. PS: I bought a donor car from which I pulled everything, so yeah. I know these cars pretty well. ask me anything you want to know and I'll try to answer as best I could. Great video, cheers guys
Hey bro, I know I’m late asking but just curious as someone who doesn’t know much about fixing cars is a 944 s2 (ik not the same as 924 but close ish) an ok idea to possibly daily from a maintenence point of view (will be buying a clean example with a good history log not a project car)
Really good summary! Im a 928 owner for 23yrs and just stepped into the 944 turbo world a few months ago. Very similar issues with each car. They are actually ok to work on and the fear of working on them is really over rated in my opinion.
Yesss 💯💯 Congrats on the turbo!! If you’ve owned a 928, then the 944 will be similar in many things. They’re both great in different ways. It’s incredible the level of online support these 944/968’s have, just like 928’s. Many How To’s everywhere! TH thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
As an owner of multiple 944s, this is good advice, especially for a "track day" car. Timing belts are cheap. Don't bother inspecting them, just replace them every January. :-) It gets you close to the engine and you may find other issues like leaking cam/balance shaft seals, water pump leaks, etc before they become VERY expensive. I love my 968 3.0 swapped '86 Turbo track car and really miss my '88 Turbo S.
@@HernanSpeedI want to acknowledge you for challenging the myth that 944/968 cars are too complicated to maintain. It is true that this is greatly exaggerated. I want to take this a step further and challenge sone of the statements in the video and chat that are equally exaggerated. The statement that if your timing belts goes, you need a new engine. Another grossly exaggerated assumption. I’ve fixed MANY 944 engines after a timing belt failure. The cheapest way was to buy a used head and swap it out along with the obvious associated parts (head gasket, belt, etc). Piston head damage is rare and I’ve NEVER seen reason to junk an engine for this. You also do not need to replace a timing belt annually as one comment mentioned. More unnecessary exaggerations. I know many people, incl so called mechanics, do not fix things anymore. They just replace things. This is not only unnecessary when encountering a timing belt failure, it’s foolish. Just fix the problem. If you’re not willing to fix things, you should probably by driving a newer (and more disposable) car.
Great video. I have an 84 Euro spec 944 purchased in Munich. Mechanic in northern Virginia works on the car and I have dabbled on some maintenance. Over 330 thousand miles and still love it. Missed the autobahn but your video outstanding.
LOVE your Porsche Videos! 15 Yr owner of a 1974 911 Targa 5 Speed. My 74 911 is very reliable (after a PROPER engine rebuild) I use as a daily driver. Most fun ever.
I’ve had an ‘83 944 for a year (13 months). It is incredibly reliable, and there are plenty websites to source parts from, if you can’t find a 944 for parts nearby (which are common). Furthermore, the facebook groups are amazing if you’re ever stuck on something. I had a 43-year Porsche technician help me through facebook comments, as well as many others willing to help asap. I’m 21, this is my fourth car. I started wrenching on cars two years ago, and this Porsche has taught me a lot. It’s a great car - wouldn’t recommend it as a first car, but definitely a strong second.
Great video awsome to find someone that really understands the 944 and what a great car it is. I have owned my 1990 944 S2 Cabrio for 27 years, couldn't afford to go to Porsche so with the help of a mechanic learned to do a lot of the maintence my self. I have almost 300,000 miles on my Porsche. Not everything has been easy to fix but with the help of online 944 forums me and my nechanic have kept it running almost like new. The rewards of driving this Porsche is like no other, I have aftermarket exhust that screams going thru tunnels and it still pushes me back into my seat on launch. Sheer Joy! 2023 will be the year I replace all the fuel lines with stainless and finish the other little projects that need attention.
This☝️is a man who gets it! Yess, one of the last Porsche’s that you can work on! I don’t see that happening with the newer models unfortunately.. Anthony Montes thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
hey thank you, really good video, advice was spot on easy to understand and delivered in a logical way. I am looking at a 944 as my daily but I'm on the fence this video helped a lot.
As always .... Amazing! Your production is 1st class... and you know these cars. I feel your enthusiasm for the 944. I have a Black and white 1990 Cab .... I love it. Keep up the great content.
Gotta love the 944’s! Especially Cab’s…Speedsters! To me, it’s one of the best looking convertibles out there 🙌🏻🙌🏻 Agustin Garcia thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Finally a video that's not promoting the odo gear reset myth. I mentioned that it was false to a couple of other TH-camrs who had passed on the myth and got nothing but grief as it's well known 🤦♂️ I'd also point out to use 2 hands to evenly close the hatch as twisting it by using 1 hand can also contribute to delamination. Thank you for the great video as we need the truth getting out about these cars. I have a turbo and while I still use a mechanic for some jobs that are above my pay grade, I've also done a bunch of stuff myself as you are 100% right, they are easy to work on despite the misconception out there, they use magic dust and are somehow beyond most people's skill set. Anyway thank you again for the great video 🍻
Yess, lots of misconceptions about these Porsche’s! I think it keeps a lot of buyers away, and they miss out on all the fun! 🙌 Kewl Hunter thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Another great video. I had an '87 944 and was happy to see it go. You're spot on about needing to replace all the rubber, as there was just an endless cascade of failures under the hood. It was fun to drive, but I found it underpowered and interior rubber and plastic components don't do well over time. My Panamera is like it's from another planet than the 944. Thanks for another great video.
For sure, Ron. Best to have it done all at once... and even better to do it yourself! Love my 944 and it's been dead reliable since I refreshed it two years ago.
I get my 968 coupe serviced once a year at a German specialist for about $500. Apart from that, it's been reliable apart from the cruise control. One thing with the 968 is that rust is much less of an issue than a 944 so many issue related to that don't occur. I will spend the extra to get a timing belt changed every 3 to 4 years. I'll definitely be looking at the under bonnet rubber, so great tip! BTW my car has 290000km and according to my specialist, it's probably the original. When I first got it, I replaced the engine mounts. Oh and my AC needed a new clutch.
Best time to buy any classic car is in the winter! Prices always dip about 15%-20%, then they pop up again in Spring. Some years more than others, but it’s consistent year after year. Chris Chong thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
@@HernanSpeed great rule to live by, been looking for a couple years now, wanted a stick 928 s4 at first, but those are low 20s-30s for a nice one from what I’ve seen. 944 prices are still manageable. Car seems to be lighter on maintenance too and still a hoot to drive.
@@HernanSpeed Thanks for replying ! Yeah, lovely one !! By the way, maybe you can help me with my CO overpollution problem. Any idea where it can come from ? I'm from France and control people do not joke with that here ... Any lead(s) in mind?
Recently did timing+pump, replaced the fuel lines and fixed vacuum leaks. Planning to replace the engine mounts. Thanks for this list! At least it calmed me down that im going the right direction :-D
I really enjoyed your video….I’m in my mid-60s now, and while I used to work on my own cars, I neither have the patience, a place to do it nor the wherewithal to do so. I applaud those that do, just not me anymore. I own a ‘90 944s2 cabriolet. I live in New England, so she is stored inside 6-7 months a year. I guess I have a “unicorn” as my dash is flawless, still the original roof and it works (although the plastic rear “glass” was replaced), my “odometer trip” button still works, absolutely no rust--and to be honest, I’ve only redlined it a few times in almost 20 years of ownership. Admittedly, I have yet to hit 70k on the “clock”, and I guess she qualifies as a “hangar queen” (old Navy colloquialism for that one or two aircraft that never fly, but are kept in the squadron to borrow parts from to keep the rest of the planes flying!). I love the car…I love driving it….I enjoy the comments I get (some kid asked me “is that the new Boxster?”). But I tire of wrestling the battery into and out of the battery box when parked (no electricity in my storage unit), I tire of looking for 91 or 93 octane fuel, and when stored, I worry about rodents, and the damage sitting still for half the year does to the tires and frankly, is generally not good for any car. Still, even with all of that crap, it is such a pleasure to drive it up through the White Mountains, up the Maine Coast, around Nova Scotia, through the Smokies and down the Tail of the Dragon….yep! She’s been there, done that! And recently, I’ve given thought to a reproduction 356 Speedster (pipe dream, I guess!) Again, Bravo-Zulu….a very positive and informative video! Thank you, sir.
i love my 944 s2 so much. extremely lucky to have one with a perfect dash. funny enough i replaced the clutch last year at 155k miles. no joke it was the original clutch!
Nice video! As with any old car rubber is the big culprit of many problems. Most of the timing belts i see fail is when the teeth strip off the belt. Pay close attention to cracks around the teeth when expecting belt., The climate control panel board is also a problem on some 85.5 models and up.
Yesss, rubber is a prime culprit on any classic. Sometimes it’s hard to tell, especially after it’s shined up and detailed…but old rubber is old rubber. Great tip on the climate control, those definitely give issues! Modified15r thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Interesting tip for checking timing belts...do it in the dark with your pupils big...LOL. THEY HAVE THESE THINGS CALLED MAGNIFYING GLASSES. You can make things up to INFINITY SIZED bigger...and they have super bright led bulbs in them...keep an eye out for one, they're great...2ND LOL. Otherwise...great tips. A good 944 with some basic upgrades and in shape is loads of fun to drive...but I prefer my nicely sorted 300ZX. Shorter wheelbase is like driving on rails.
Yesss! I’m the guy checking all the belts in middle of the night 😆😆 A 1990’s 300ZX turbo is one of my favorite cars of all time! 🚀🚀 Even on late nights when I can’t sleep, I’m researching the 1988 Shiro Special in all white… I need more storage! One day! 💯 💯☝️ David thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
@HernanSpeed Z31...no thanks. The only year they even looked decent was the last one. It is all about the Z32...my man. But...I'm done with Nissan. It's all about AMG for me now. Just scored a great deal on a 89 560 SEC AMG. Although I'd rock the NEW one. Was going to be the 400ZX...but they chickened out on that branding. I do love the rear end...very 300ZX ish.
Awesome video and great info. I am in the market looking for Porsche 944. I live in Miami. Do you have any mechanic shops you would recommend for maintenance?
What’s up brother! Yes, Vertex Auto is great. I’ve known the owners almost 30 years, they’re shop was there way before the construction boom in that area. I would even pass by, and ask if they know of any clean 944’s in the area that might be for sale (they know of Porsche’s that aren’t advertised!). Christopher thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
When it comes to modifying, I’m always thinking resale. Will it hurt? In the 944 Turbos case, it doesn’t as long as it’s quality work. Most even sell at a premium… These 944 turbos can handle lots off power, they regularly destroy ‘faster’ cars at the track. I think it’s a GOO! Just don’t go to crazy, it’s a slippery slope 😎 Dderuy thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
I will say this. I thank Porsche for paying my way through college. The first 944's stripped the timing belts at about 15K miles. Every time one came in on a tow truck, 99% chance, it was a broken timing belt. Porsche pretty much updated that belt at least 10 times. Then it was also the cam bolt. They would come loose and break the end of the cam off. Then there were the various oil leaks on the front of the engine. If the balance shaft belt broke and never took out the timing belt, just drive it for about a month and the front two exhaust manifolds would shear off Then when Porsche changed the manifolds, they had to change them again as they cracked. 944Turbo Clutch jobs were a joy. Can't imagine what they are like today.
This is why I tell everyone to stay away from project cars.. We’ll maintained 944’s are solid daily drivers, even today 🙌 Bill Smith thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
@@HernanSpeed - Today, they are reliable because back in the day, they were not. Many years of changes, helped them today. I think the best 944 was the S2. Super reliable, lots of torque. Easy to work on. It got to that time, Porsche fixed most of the mistakes from the past. It's like 928's and air cooled 911's. They got better over the years but at least not as riddled with problems like the 944 was. Today, there would have been a class action lawsuit due to the timing belt issue. I doubt people would put up with a belt lasting 15K and the warranty ran out at 12K.
@@HernanSpeed - They were great racecars too. Look up the 944S2 Clubsport. 7 were made. They did so well, I worked for this team back in the day and we won this race with one we built our self. th-cam.com/video/DOvBVRW_GC8/w-d-xo.html
@@billsmith5960 I found your comments very interesting. I bought a brand new Guards Red 944 in 1984. I drove it 30k miles and ended up selling it. It was in the shop a bunch for warranty work. Here's what I can recall. The seal around the Porsche emblem on the front fascia wasn't properly installed. The driver side passenger window leaked, the head lights winked at you = one of the motors failed and you had to lift the headlight up. The steering wheel would shake at about 55 mph and then smooth back out. This one they never fixed though I had it in and out of the shop multiple times. And the one that I thought I'd get stuck with, but was pleasantly surprised Porsche covered (I identified it a week before I'd had it one year and it took them about 8 weeks to finally fix) was it would click when turning hard at slow speed in a parking lot. Only click in one direction and only at full turn on the wheel. They said they replaced the steering table, and that didn't fix it either. They told me what it was when they finally fixed it and were a bit embarrassed it took so long to find. Apparently a bolt wasn't screwed in enough and when you turned the wheel just right = at slow speed and all the way over, it would hit the bolt and you'd hear t;-)he click. Loved, loved, loved the car and now that I'm 65 years old, our 4 kids all have families of their own, I'm looking at getting another one and fixing it up. I'm very handy with a wrench as a DIYer I've done motor jobs, rebuilt master cylinders, replaced clutch plates, throw out bearings and pressure plates etc. so I'm not at all hesitant to get one and fix it myself. I've also got 8 grandkids that I'd love to teach car maintenance and repair to and what better car to have them learn on than a 944 😁 With the experience you had with 944's, which year and model of 944 would you buy today if you were going to fix one up?
Thanks very much for the video I just bought a 968 and it has a misfire under load, I will replace all the hoses dist rotor plugs and cables too but the DME relay where do I find one of those which will fit. I cant find the one in the video thanks James
Yes, sometimes all they need is a tuneup. You can find the DME relay here, you can also send them a message through their Facebook page. www.ftech9.com/new-products/993-ssr-pp Dr James Brown thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
I love your channel! Very informative and interesting for Porsche fans. I have two questions: 1) Do these maintenance and servicing tips also apply to the 924 S which has the same engine as the early 944's? 2) Would you recommend the 924 S in terms of future investment?
Yess. Most maintenance items apply, I didn’t go in-depth. The earlier cars have the simpler 8 valve motors, so in many ways…they’re easier to maintain IF they’re already in good shape. For investment, I’d only go with color that people like at car shows. These are colors that if the car has to be sold at some point, you’re phone will be ringing off the hook! So Minerva Blue, Signal green, Raylle Yellow. As with most older classic Porsche’s, people are looking for conversation pieces…that’s why you’re seeing so many extreme colors when people restore older Porsche’s. Julian M thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
You missed a big defect in early 944, pre 87...water pump...other than timing belt, this is the thing you need to paid alot attention to. I had owned 4 944 over the yrs, all of them needed to replace the water pump during my ownership.
Yes it is an issue. This usually only happens with aftermarket water pumps, people want to save money and buy the cheaper Chinese pump. It’s also a major issue with 928’s. The original German-made pumps last 70k+ miles 💯💯 Thanks for watching man! 👊👊
Ohh man! I know the feeling! Every single car I sell, I end up regretting it sooner or later. Then I start searching again 🤣 I guess hunting for the perfect car is also part of the fun Tommy thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Love the videos. I recently purchased a 1 owner, garage kept 968 and I am really enjoying it. It came with a perfect dash (non-leather). Any thoughts about how best to keep it that way? Any favorite conditioning products? Thanks.
Congrats!! 🍾 Great choice! I only use Aerospace 303 on the dashboards, it really works. If you’re going to park the car outside in the heat, get the Covercraft windshield screen “UVS100” (it’s incredible). And for the leather seats, use Lexol only. I’ve tested everything here in the Miami heat, this is what holds up. Clore Automotive thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
@@HernanSpeed Thanks so much for the reply and tip. Just what I was hoping to learn. It will be garage kept, but willl still see sunny days when parked, so I will get both. My newly acquired vehicle has only 52K miles, but not a ton of service in the last ten years, so, working with a very experienced mechanic here in KC, I had the timing belt and water pump replaced, the cam tensioner chain serviced, most fluids replaced, new plugs and updated the original shocks and struts with Koni. I have a clean start and it is driving great. Again, your videos are excellent. Thanks.
It depends, which one is in the best condition! With the age of these cars, the condition affects everything. I’ve driven 944’s that were better than 928’s, and the other way around. So basically, they all drive different…all because of the condition. Go test drive a few, you’ll see why it’s so important ClearCandorTV thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
In the age of social media, and ebay maintained on these porsches are easy and cheap. When I had mines, there were no media, so I had to go to porsche for repairs.
Absolutely! 💯 Especially if it’s got all the records to verify the mileage. Prices fluctuate all the time, and from season to season (best time to sell is Spring). Do a search on Bring a Trailer and look for the completed auctions of cars with similar mileage, that will give you a good ballpark on prices. (Only search prices for the past 18 months) Expensive Taste Kastro thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
As a precious Miata owner and a current 944 owner, I can gladly say going for the Miata is not settling and is a (I’m about to go there) funner car to drive 😬😂
The Miata and 944 are very different cars, not comparable. I can only see the Miata being funner if you’re comparing it to a 944 that needs lots of work. MrUglyFinosaur Thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
In other words you have different preferences....thanks....the internet really needed to know what you like, so appreciate the really helpful comment. By the way I really like my shirt but not my other shirt....so I wear this one....
@@locophoto6881 Well if you wanna go that direction, was your shirt ever mentioned in the video? 😂 last I recall there was a mention about 944's compared to miatas. if comment sections and internet discussions weren't made for opinions and perspectives, than what for?
@@MrUglyDinosaur Why makes points with a guy that just misses the point? Your comment ...to spell it out slowly for the slow....is an opinion....not a "conversation"....so telling someone hey I like those Dodgers....is about as helpful and pointless as an empty ballpoint pen....why bother telling the world that you like a different car? It's pointless waste of your time. And the shirt example was showing you how inane your comment is...why not tell us what shirt you like and what shirt you don't? Why do you care that we know what you like dude? We don't care because that's not what caring about people involves...it's duhhh....we all know that everyone likes different things, so make a comment or conversation that is ACTUALLY edifying or contributive to helping others, or be silent, or...be sure to go to everyone on the street too and just walk up to them and say "I like Miatas. Miatas are my favortite" and get back with us later...pretty sure they'll have the same opinion of you.
Lots of great information here but you never mention the turbo. I have a 90 turbo cab and I have to say it is the biggest PITA car to work on that I have ever worked on. The engine is very simple, and just looking at it it does not look hard to work on. ie try and remove the dipstick tube. One bolt, clearly visible, looks to be a one or two minute job. Now try and remove that bolt...it takes a while. It seems like the simplest task takes forever. I am sure it is still easier then other Porsches, but a PITA compared to other cars.
I know what you mean, I think this applies to working on most cars. Experience helps a ton, that’s for sure. Proper tools also go a long way, I’ve broken several wrenches. Cars that need a lift are much harder, especially if all you have is the driveway. David thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
I've had several 951s, and the only car more challenging I've had was a B5S4. I got so used to pulling the 951 intake manifold I did it in a grocery store parking lot.
@@HernanSpeed You do a very good job. I just got a used 1983 944 with about 60,000 original miles. Original clutch original everything basically except for water pump and timing belts. My AC is toast and I'm not sure if I need a compressor or a solenoid or just a recharge of Freon. Maybe you have an answer
@drunvert Pull the cap off the recharging port, it looks like a larger version of a tire 🛞 inflation nozzle. Press down the center section (just like removing air from a tire). If freon comes out, it’s charged up….it nothing comes out…it’s empty. That’s the 1st thing I would check ✅
@@HernanSpeed okay. I know where it is. I didn't see anything through the window so it's probably empty. If the three things are freon compressor and no leaks then I comprehend it. If there's solenoids or things like that, let me know. Thanks for getting back to me. I appreciate it.
@drunvert To bypass all fuses/solenoid, just run a long cable from the positive battery terminal to the lead on the compressor (just one wire). Turn on the car, and test it a few seconds at a time. This way you can see if the clutch is engaging or not. I’ve had to do this many times
cheap? i live in germany, but if you would want a new fender you would need to pay 2000€ for a new one or around 500€ for a usable used one. Also, good luck restoring rusted sills, the outer piece, wich I think is only made by porsche is 600€ per side... I'm broke now.
Correct! 💯💯 That’s why I said don’t shop for deals, they usually end up costing thousands more than a nice one☝️. With the 944, a restoration is rarely worth it. This video focuses on the maintenance side Schildi42 thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Good advice. I like them, especially in crazy colors 🙌🙌 A Nice 924S is getting harder and harder to find, and the prices on them are also going up…sometimes more than a comparable 944. Mark thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Find a nice one and pay what it’s worth….you’ll just be doing routine maintenance like on any car. But…if you shop around for price and get a ‘Deal’ -prepare yourself for many long nights. So find the nicest one possible, it will be a total pleasure to own (stay away from projects). Recycle Spinning thanks for watching!!🔥🔥
@ClimaX Speed whats the market on a 944 , no turbo ? Well maintained. There's a high mileage one close to my location. Claim is it was converted to a manual and has all new clutch and trans rebuilt, etc. New rod bearings. He was not the one had work done however. He bought this way . 200k miles, but work is recent 🤔
If it’s a manual conversion (not original), and high miles…then it’s under $5k. If you want to have a great experience, find an original car that hasn’t been modified ⚙️💯💯💯
videos like this help you keep your 944 series in "reliable" condition. As he stated, these cars are really easy to work on if you have a little more than basic skills. (I've had a base 944, a 944S2, and two 951s.) They are a blast to drive and own. Do yourself a favor and go get one!
Swap in an LS1 and you get 430 HP from an engine that is as simple as a doorknob and as durable as a hammer. If the car is a Turbo, you only pay a weight penalty of about 30 lbs.
Yes it can be a lot if you pay someone to do it, but many have done it for under $5k themselves (using an LS from a truck, not LS1). I’ve seen many at local road course event’s, they get abused and rarely break down.
It’s totally worth it! The adapter will likely be your biggest expense. They’re super light and small, lots of space to work on them. The rb26dett will also be a beast, but you’re gonna have to turbocharge it and make sure it’s properly cooled.. It’s a longer build for sure. Find someone in your area with an LS swap, and get a spin in one! Next level! 🚀🚀🚀
I want to acknowledge you for challenging the myth that 944/968 cars are too complicated to maintain. It is true that this is greatly exaggerated. I want to take this a step further and challenge some of the statements in the video and chat that are equally exaggerated. The statement that if your timing belts goes, you need a new engine. Another grossly exaggerated assumption. I’ve fixed MANY 944 engines after a timing belt failure. The cheapest way was to buy a used head and swap it out along with the obvious associated parts (head gasket, belt, etc). Piston head damage is rare and I’ve NEVER seen reason to junk an engine for this. You also do not need to replace a timing belt annually as one comment mentioned. More unnecessary exaggerations. I know many people, incl so called mechanics, do not fix things anymore. They just replace things. This is not only unnecessary when encountering a timing belt failure, it’s foolish. Just fix the problem. If you’re not willing to fix things, you should probably by driving a newer (and more disposable) car.
I agree! 💯🙌🙌 Lot’s of misconceptions regarding the 944’s! The good thing is that a new generation of people are starting to get into them, and they’ll be make more and more tutorials on how to keep these incredible cars on the road 🙌😎 Dangerous119 thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Real Answer: Your 944 caught fire because it was not properly maintained. Driving around with old fuel lines is No Bueno, don’t blame the car. Nathan Rogers thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Nathan, I understand where you’re coming from. I’ve been working on my own cars for 28 years, so I see things a bit differently. Some things jump out as kinda obvious because I’ve been there. I remember being 17 years old and driving around with fuel smell in my 928 😆 I wouldn’t do that today, because I’m going old…and I know it’s a fire waiting to happen. Sorry that happened to your 944. These are great cars if maintained properly. Sometimes maintenance is expensive if you have to pay for labor. The good thing is that there is countless resources for those that are willing to do most things themselves
@@HernanSpeed Just because there exist resources doesn't mean the person "willing to do most things themselves" have the facilities or resources to do it. I binged 944 content, but I lived in a condo, and was not allowed to do car maintenance either in my garage or in the parking lot, I didn't have access to garage facilities myself, so I had to find someone capable of working on the car. Not everyone knows an elite mechanic for vintage European cars. If you know one, or are one, then great, the car is easy to maintain. But for 94.4% of people, that isn't the case. European cars, especially aged European cars, especially Porsches, are expensive, and most average people aren't going to have the right tools just lying around, because in all likelihood, neither the owner, nor the owners mates have owned a Porsche before, but probably have owned japanese or american cars, and if they even own tools, will own tools more common to those cars, and not classic European cars. The question was: "Is the Porsche 944 easy maintenance" Yes: - if you've worked on cars your whole life - if all your friends who are mechanics also own one - if you have owned similar cars in the past - if you're a mechanic - if you already own the tools - if you have the space - if you have lots of additional money The answer is no. If you have to provide a whole list of caveats to your "yes" answer, you might need to rethink your yes answer
I just want to add to my previous comment, that the guy I found who was well reputed for working on classic European cars, is the reason for the electrical short that sparked the grease in the engine starting the fire. So not only is such a skilled mechanic for such a specific category of maintenance difficult to find, but you're not likely to find out how skilled the person is or was until its too late.
You know it! 💯 The better you get, the easier it gets. I remember that I couldn’t even change a tire when I was 15, practice makes a world of difference! 🙌💪💪 Thanks for watching brother! 👊👊
Come on…. you know looks is totally subjective☝️I really like Foxbody Mustangs, and many people don’t like them. Many people love the new Toyota Prius, looks like a space shape…but it’s not cool. Everything 80’s is getting red hot, because it’s not common anymore…. The 944 is one of the ultimate poster Porsche’s for many around the world 🌎 Plus… it drives AMAZING 💯🙌 Cartoon king thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Jealous much? I guess being so ugly is why they were Porsche's number one selling model, even outselling the 911 back when the 944's came out....and Car and Driver back then called the 944 the best handling car in the world on top of really loving the car. Everyone likes a different look of a woman, everyone dresses differently, everyone likes different everything, so congrats on voicing an opinion, I would just ask what's the significance of your opinion in this context?
Don't buy one of those cars. Go buy a Cayman. They are not classic cars. They are antiques. Parts are hard to find, expensive and the knowledge base is dying off. The only people that should mess with 944/928 are collectors with money and race shops with fab skills.
Everything 80’s is what’s cool now, especially with the younger generations….18 year olds are working on these cars with nooo problems. This is a great thing, it’s not a computer game car…it’s the real deal. Parts are cheap relative to other Porsche models, I know them all. But…they’re not for everyone. If changing spark plugs, or swapping out brake pads is considered complicated…it’s best to pass on this car, or any classic Porsche. Flea4061 thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
I’ve had an ‘83 944 for a year now (13 months). It is incredibly reliable, and there are plenty websites to source parts from, if you can’t find a 944 for parts nearby (which are common). Furthermore, the facebook groups are amazing if you’re ever stuck on something. I had a 43-year Porsche technician help me through facebook comments, as well as many others willing to help asap. I’m 21, this is my fourth car. I started working on cars two years ago, and this Porsche has taught me a lot. It’s a great car - wouldn’t recommend it as a first car, but definitely a strong second.
You can explain to all of us...on TH-cam...how the information is "dying off" when so much information is PRESERVED....on TH-cam.... and 944's share parts with Audi, VW's, and Porsche still makes parts, and there are third party companies as well, and donor car exist all around the country with eBay being an easy source for a lot of things, not to mention the entire internet makes life about as hard as inhaling for those willing to actually try at life versus Xbox their life away.
Video is kinda faced paced, so here are the time stamps:
0:00 Why don't more people buy Porsche 944's?
0:40 Shop Owners love Porsche 944's
2:00 Porsche 944 - Inspect Timing Belt
3:02 944S & 944 S2 Cam Tensioners
3:33 Check all 944 Rubber hoses, especially fuel
3:54 Why Porsche 944 Vacuum Lines are so important!
4:33 Are Porsche 944 clutches a problem?
5:10 Save your Porsche 944 Transmission Sincros!
5:42 Porsche 944 Odometer gear: What's the true mileage?
6:50 Is the Porsche 944 Steering Rack leak Common?
7:05 Why Porsche 944 Motor Mounts are important
7:55 Why the 944 Transmission mount is also important
8:10 Porsche 944 DME Relay Warning: Change it now
8:38 How does a Galvanized Porsche 944 develop Rust?
9:47 Porsche 944's interior are incredible
9:56 Porsche 944 Dashboards: They also crack
10:21 Porsche 944 Rear Hatch separating: Common Problem
10:52 Final Thoughts on the Porsche 944
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@@HernanSpeed thank you very much! 🤩👍🤝
Watched countless videos and at LAST someone who doesn't spend the first 5 mins talking about what is coming up in the video and just gets on with it. No nonsense, to the point, extremely knowledgeable, excellent advice. Superb. Only watched 2 videos and already subscribed
Thanks for watching brother! 👊👊
AYYYE! 944 Turbo owner in Miami here! Used to be all about 911s. Air and water cooled. Traded one for 2 944 Turbos and never looked back! I was hooked. The driving experience is some of the most fun Ive ever had in a car, and I look forward to my commute every day. Good info here for newcomers
Yesss! 💯💯 It’s all about the drive with the Porsche 944…the turbo takes it to another level! 🙌👊🙌
Thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
@@HernanSpeed Yezzir! Especially after HEAVY modification 🔥😈🔥 maybe I’ll catch you at Cars & Coffee, or come down to Fox’s Lounge between Wed-Sat I’ll hook you up 🤙
I cannot emphasize enough on the last sentence he said.
DO NOT BUY A PROJECT CAR, I REPEAT, DO NOT BUY A PROJECT CAR, BUY THE CLEANEST EXAMPLE YOU CAN FIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That being said, hi! I am the guy who bought a 2k project 924S from 1987. It's been 5 years and I spent 35k on it. that is... only in parts. I do ALL the work myself. I did almost everything. brakes, suspension, steering rack and stuff, transaxle mounts, wiring, all vacuum lines, all sensors (yes, all) I've done the timing belt maybe 3 times but the waterpump and rollers disassembly maybe 10 times at that point, did all the engine seals, etc, etc... I always jokingly say there isn't a bolt I haven't touched on that car.
But here's the deal. I just blew a headgasket (or my oil cooler seals, most likely, didn't do a compression check yet).
I am the first owner who has maintained this car well. And for that reason, I get burned for it. Everything backfires on me. Every single bolt has fought me. Every single problem these cars are known for has happened to me (I had to weld the exhaust crack twice).
Anyways, here's the catch: If you buy one, beware. Every single time I think about selling the car, I take one corner and I immediately tell myself "man what am I thinking! I can't sell that car!!!"
Also, as he said in the video. There's no 944 that runs better than a stock but well maintained one, on which everything is basically new. when tuned properly (you can adjust the maf to make it read and flow more air because they come lean from factory) they become alive. I can't stop thinking about that car while it's sitting in my parking spot.
PS: I bought a donor car from which I pulled everything, so yeah. I know these cars pretty well. ask me anything you want to know and I'll try to answer as best I could.
Great video, cheers guys
Powerful post! 💯 Thanks for sharing! 👊👊
Hey bro,
I know I’m late asking but just curious as someone who doesn’t know much about fixing cars is a 944 s2 (ik not the same as 924 but close ish) an ok idea to possibly daily from a maintenence point of view (will be buying a clean example with a good history log not a project car)
Ive watched dozens of videos on 944s and this one was easily the most informative. Thanks!
Brian Goodman thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Really good summary! Im a 928 owner for 23yrs and just stepped into the 944 turbo world a few months ago. Very similar issues with each car. They are actually ok to work on and the fear of working on them is really over rated in my opinion.
Yesss 💯💯 Congrats on the turbo!! If you’ve owned a 928, then the 944 will be similar in many things. They’re both great in different ways. It’s incredible the level of online support these 944/968’s have, just like 928’s. Many How To’s everywhere!
TH thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
This was very comprehensive in terms of the expected maintenance. A very worthwhile watch for anyone considering one of these transaxle cars. 😊
Nothing like a Transaxle Porsche! ☝️
OzJustin thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Well-spoken, straight to the point, not a second wasted on the video. My interest in 944s have peaked now. Well made video man, thank you.
Thanks for watching brother! 👊👊
As an owner of multiple 944s, this is good advice, especially for a "track day" car.
Timing belts are cheap. Don't bother inspecting them, just replace them every January. :-) It gets you close to the engine and you may find other issues like leaking cam/balance shaft seals, water pump leaks, etc before they become VERY expensive.
I love my 968 3.0 swapped '86 Turbo track car and really miss my '88 Turbo S.
Sounds like you have good taste in cars! 💥💥
JessieDog thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
@@HernanSpeed If I had good taste, I would have never sold that '88 944 Turbo S :-)
@@HernanSpeedI want to acknowledge you for challenging the myth that 944/968 cars are too complicated to maintain. It is true that this is greatly exaggerated. I want to take this a step further and challenge sone of the statements in the video and chat that are equally exaggerated. The statement that if your timing belts goes, you need a new engine. Another grossly exaggerated assumption. I’ve fixed MANY 944 engines after a timing belt failure. The cheapest way was to buy a used head and swap it out along with the obvious associated parts (head gasket, belt, etc). Piston head damage is rare and I’ve NEVER seen reason to junk an engine for this. You also do not need to replace a timing belt annually as one comment mentioned. More unnecessary exaggerations. I know many people, incl so called mechanics, do not fix things anymore. They just replace things. This is not only unnecessary when encountering a timing belt failure, it’s foolish. Just fix the problem. If you’re not willing to fix things, you should probably by driving a newer (and more disposable) car.
Great video. I have an 84 Euro spec 944 purchased in Munich. Mechanic in northern Virginia works on the car and I have dabbled on some maintenance. Over 330 thousand miles and still love it. Missed the autobahn but your video outstanding.
330k! 🚀🚀🚀 That’s what I’m talking about, these cars are meant to be driven! 💯👊👊
Greg thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Spot on , all great info, owned 10+ back in 90's , cheap, fixed everything myself, daily driver
Yess! These are totally daily drivers If taken care of 🙌🙌
Bill Printy thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
LOVE your Porsche Videos! 15 Yr owner of a 1974 911 Targa 5 Speed. My 74 911 is very reliable (after a PROPER engine rebuild) I use as a daily driver. Most fun ever.
Love those early 911’s, pure simplicity! If taken care of, they last a lifetime….and so much FUNNN!
Duane Durham thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
I’ve had an ‘83 944 for a year (13 months). It is incredibly reliable, and there are plenty websites to source parts from, if you can’t find a 944 for parts nearby (which are common). Furthermore, the facebook groups are amazing if you’re ever stuck on something. I had a 43-year Porsche technician help me through facebook comments, as well as many others willing to help asap.
I’m 21, this is my fourth car. I started wrenching on cars two years ago, and this Porsche has taught me a lot. It’s a great car - wouldn’t recommend it as a first car, but definitely a strong second.
what state of a porsche 944 should i be looking for? be it on craigslist or any car website? i wanna get one but idk what i should be looking for
Facebook marketplace and Rennlist classifieds are the best, because you can look up the owners.
I have watched lots of 968 videos. This one is tops for general maintenance tips.
Joseph Kelly thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
I don’t own a 944, but planning to get one in the future. I always liked the body style.
Find a nice one! You’ll love it! Thanks for watching! 👊👊
Great video awsome to find someone that really understands the 944 and what a great car it is. I have owned my 1990 944 S2 Cabrio for 27 years, couldn't afford to go to Porsche so
with the help of a mechanic learned to do a lot of the maintence my self. I have almost 300,000 miles on my Porsche. Not everything has been easy to fix but with the help of online
944 forums me and my nechanic have kept it running almost like new. The rewards of driving this Porsche is like no other, I have aftermarket exhust that screams going thru tunnels
and it still pushes me back into my seat on launch. Sheer Joy! 2023 will be the year I replace all the fuel lines with stainless and finish the other little projects that need attention.
This☝️is a man who gets it! Yess, one of the last Porsche’s that you can work on! I don’t see that happening with the newer models unfortunately..
Anthony Montes thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
hey thank you, really good video, advice was spot on easy to understand and delivered in a logical way.
I am looking at a 944 as my daily but I'm on the fence this video helped a lot.
Find a nice one, it’s worth it. Thanks for watching brother! 👊👊
As always .... Amazing! Your production is 1st class... and you know these cars. I feel your enthusiasm for the 944. I have a Black and white 1990 Cab .... I love it. Keep up the great content.
Gotta love the 944’s! Especially Cab’s…Speedsters! To me, it’s one of the best looking convertibles out there 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Agustin Garcia thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Great advice, project cars will cost you way more in the long run than a pristine example. Pay up for a nice car. Enjoyed the video.
Thanks for watching brother! 👊👊
Excellent video! It makes me think harder about getting back into a 944 after 20 years of being away.
Great to hear! There’s always some great ones for sale! 🙌🙌
CRS290 thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Finally a video that's not promoting the odo gear reset myth. I mentioned that it was false to a couple of other TH-camrs who had passed on the myth and got nothing but grief as it's well known 🤦♂️
I'd also point out to use 2 hands to evenly close the hatch as twisting it by using 1 hand can also contribute to delamination.
Thank you for the great video as we need the truth getting out about these cars. I have a turbo and while I still use a mechanic for some jobs that are above my pay grade, I've also done a bunch of stuff myself as you are 100% right, they are easy to work on despite the misconception out there, they use magic dust and are somehow beyond most people's skill set.
Anyway thank you again for the great video 🍻
Yess, lots of misconceptions about these Porsche’s! I think it keeps a lot of buyers away, and they miss out on all the fun! 🙌
Kewl Hunter thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Love your very informative posts! Keep them coming.
Thanks for watching man!
Pulled the trigger on a good 944, this is indeed everyone's first Porsche :P Never regret a second.
CONGRATS!! 🍾🙌🍾 Take good care of it and it won’t let you down! 🥇🥇
Tomi Zhou thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Really good video. I'm getting a 1984 944 this summer as a project car. Now I know a bunch of extra stuff to look out for
Nice! They drive amazing! Make sure you get a nice one, and you’ll enjoy it for decades! 💯🚀🚀
JK thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Another great video. I had an '87 944 and was happy to see it go. You're spot on about needing to replace all the rubber, as there was just an endless cascade of failures under the hood. It was fun to drive, but I found it underpowered and interior rubber and plastic components don't do well over time. My Panamera is like it's from another planet than the 944. Thanks for another great video.
Indeed, the rubber bits are the most tedious to change. The Panamera is like a starship! 🚀🚀 Yes, very different cars!
Ron thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
For sure, Ron. Best to have it done all at once... and even better to do it yourself!
Love my 944 and it's been dead reliable since I refreshed it two years ago.
WELL I WOULD HOPE SO !!!!! IT'S ONLY 80 GRAND !!!!!😀😀😀😀🚘🚘🚘🚘🍺🍺🍺
Great video! very informative & helpful. 8 mins in i decided to go with a c5 z06 instead
Will be doing a C5 video on this year! 🙌🙌
Have my 85 n/a for 8years now has over300k. Runs great, maintenance!!!
Yeap!!! 💯🙌 As long as the maintenance is up to date, they’ll run FOREVER.
Raymond Stauffer thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
I get my 968 coupe serviced once a year at a German specialist for about $500. Apart from that, it's been reliable apart from the cruise control. One thing with the 968 is that rust is much less of an issue than a 944 so many issue related to that don't occur. I will spend the extra to get a timing belt changed every 3 to 4 years. I'll definitely be looking at the under bonnet rubber, so great tip! BTW my car has 290000km and according to my specialist, it's probably the original.
When I first got it, I replaced the engine mounts. Oh and my AC needed a new clutch.
Yes, and that’s cheap! Even new Porsche’s require expensive maintenance at the “approved” dealer..
David Morley thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Some of my favorite Porsche content out there, hopefully I can buy a 928 or 944 before prices get crazy
Best time to buy any classic car is in the winter! Prices always dip about 15%-20%, then they pop up again in Spring. Some years more than others, but it’s consistent year after year.
Chris Chong thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
@@HernanSpeed great rule to live by, been looking for a couple years now, wanted a stick 928 s4 at first, but those are low 20s-30s for a nice one from what I’ve seen. 944 prices are still manageable. Car seems to be lighter on maintenance too and still a hoot to drive.
Yes! The 944’s are great, they drive super solid 🚀🚀 Just find the cleanest one possible, and then maintain it in good condition.
What a great video! I am now inspired to go ahead and change my belts!! Great job man! Thank you!
It’s totally doable man! Lots of great and detailed “How To’s” everywhere 👊
Douglas Martinez thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Very interesting video.
I recently bought a 944 turbo (250hp), your advices will help me go through more specific check ups on the car !
Thank you !
Ufff!💥💥That’s a good one! 🙌🙌 With proper maintenance, these 944’s run forever!
Leeroy Kat thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
@@HernanSpeed
Thanks for replying ! Yeah, lovely one !!
By the way, maybe you can help me with my CO overpollution problem.
Any idea where it can come from ? I'm from France and control people do not joke with that here ...
Any lead(s) in mind?
Recently did timing+pump, replaced the fuel lines and fixed vacuum leaks. Planning to replace the engine mounts. Thanks for this list! At least it calmed me down that im going the right direction :-D
944 NA euro
Nice!! When the mounts are done, it will be smooooth! 🙌🙌 Totally worth it!
Pan Vomacka thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Mannn! Another great one!,
Thanks man! 🔥🔥
I've just bought a 944 Turbo. Great advise and thank you.👍
Congrats! 🍾👌
Covkiller thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
It looks like someone has been binge watching my channel. 😂
Love your channel! Subscribed!
I’m subscribed to you both. Hey @climaXSpeed, could use your help with a dealership in Miami that is trying to sell me some Carrera III wheels.
Yes, lots of those for sale down here. Where are you located? Shipping them? Shoot me a message on IG @HernanMurias
Heh heh heh.... that’s funny.
I really enjoyed your video….I’m in my mid-60s now, and while I used to work on my own cars, I neither have the patience, a place to do it nor the wherewithal to do so. I applaud those that do, just not me anymore. I own a ‘90 944s2 cabriolet. I live in New England, so she is stored inside 6-7 months a year. I guess I have a “unicorn” as my dash is flawless, still the original roof and it works (although the plastic rear “glass” was replaced), my “odometer trip” button still works, absolutely no rust--and to be honest, I’ve only redlined it a few times in almost 20 years of ownership. Admittedly, I have yet to hit 70k on the “clock”, and I guess she qualifies as a “hangar queen” (old Navy colloquialism for that one or two aircraft that never fly, but are kept in the squadron to borrow parts from to keep the rest of the planes flying!). I love the car…I love driving it….I enjoy the comments I get (some kid asked me “is that the new Boxster?”). But I tire of wrestling the battery into and out of the battery box when parked (no electricity in my storage unit), I tire of looking for 91 or 93 octane fuel, and when stored, I worry about rodents, and the damage sitting still for half the year does to the tires and frankly, is generally not good for any car. Still, even with all of that crap, it is such a pleasure to drive it up through the White Mountains, up the Maine Coast, around Nova Scotia, through the Smokies and down the Tail of the Dragon….yep! She’s been there, done that! And recently, I’ve given thought to a reproduction 356 Speedster (pipe dream, I guess!) Again, Bravo-Zulu….a very positive and informative video! Thank you, sir.
i love my 944 s2 so much. extremely lucky to have one with a perfect dash. funny enough i replaced the clutch last year at 155k miles. no joke it was the original clutch!
The condition says a lot, sounds like you’ve got one in unbelievable condition! 💯💯👊
Daniel thanks for watching!
Nice video! As with any old car rubber is the big culprit of many problems. Most of the timing belts i see fail is when the teeth strip off the belt. Pay close attention to cracks around the teeth when expecting belt.,
The climate control panel board is also a problem on some 85.5 models and up.
Yesss, rubber is a prime culprit on any classic. Sometimes it’s hard to tell, especially after it’s shined up and detailed…but old rubber is old rubber. Great tip on the climate control, those definitely give issues!
Modified15r thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Interesting tip for checking timing belts...do it in the dark with your pupils big...LOL.
THEY HAVE THESE THINGS CALLED MAGNIFYING GLASSES.
You can make things up to INFINITY SIZED bigger...and they have super bright led bulbs in them...keep an eye out for one, they're great...2ND LOL.
Otherwise...great tips. A good 944 with some basic upgrades and in shape is loads of fun to drive...but I prefer my nicely sorted 300ZX. Shorter wheelbase is like driving on rails.
Yesss! I’m the guy checking all the belts in middle of the night 😆😆
A 1990’s 300ZX turbo is one of my favorite cars of all time! 🚀🚀 Even on late nights when I can’t sleep, I’m researching the 1988 Shiro Special in all white… I need more storage! One day! 💯 💯☝️
David thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
@@HernanSpeed I'll have to look that up.
Is it a bicycle?LOL
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@HernanSpeed Z31...no thanks.
The only year they even looked decent was the last one.
It is all about the Z32...my man.
But...I'm done with Nissan.
It's all about AMG for me now.
Just scored a great deal on a 89 560 SEC AMG.
Although I'd rock the NEW one.
Was going to be the 400ZX...but they chickened out on that branding.
I do love the rear end...very 300ZX ish.
Incredible, those 560 SEC’s are shooting up in price! The last of the truly bank vault Benzes 👊👊
Yeup, they are fun.
You know it! 👊👊
Oye brother thank you for the video... you spiked my interest on the 944 that I haven't had since my Belen days and 16 Candles Jake Ryan car lol
Great cars! But it’s gotta be minty! 🏁🏁 Dale! 👊👊
Awesome video and great info. I am in the market looking for Porsche 944. I live in Miami. Do you have any mechanic shops you would recommend for maintenance?
What’s up brother! Yes, Vertex Auto is great. I’ve known the owners almost 30 years, they’re shop was there way before the construction boom in that area. I would even pass by, and ask if they know of any clean 944’s in the area that might be for sale (they know of Porsche’s that aren’t advertised!).
Christopher thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
@@HernanSpeed Thank you so much for the recommendation! I will check them out.
Whenever there is any doubt, there is no doubt. Change the belts, hoses, etc.
Yesss 💯💯 This is hands down one of the best tips for all owners! Thanks David!
AMAZING! Thank you.
Modu Sublime thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
An excellent video. Thank you.
Paul Nolan thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Absolutely LOVE this video. Very informative!!!!!! 👍
Roomz With A View thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
What do you think about Lindsay Racing? Or any other 944 Turbo modifier? Thanks for your videos!
When it comes to modifying, I’m always thinking resale. Will it hurt? In the 944 Turbos case, it doesn’t as long as it’s quality work. Most even sell at a premium… These 944 turbos can handle lots off power, they regularly destroy ‘faster’ cars at the track. I think it’s a GOO! Just don’t go to crazy, it’s a slippery slope 😎
Dderuy thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
I will say this. I thank Porsche for paying my way through college. The first 944's stripped the timing belts at about 15K miles. Every time one came in on a tow truck, 99% chance, it was a broken timing belt. Porsche pretty much updated that belt at least 10 times. Then it was also the cam bolt. They would come loose and break the end of the cam off. Then there were the various oil leaks on the front of the engine. If the balance shaft belt broke and never took out the timing belt, just drive it for about a month and the front two exhaust manifolds would shear off
Then when Porsche changed the manifolds, they had to change them again as they cracked. 944Turbo Clutch jobs were a joy. Can't imagine what they are like today.
This is why I tell everyone to stay away from project cars.. We’ll maintained 944’s are solid daily drivers, even today 🙌
Bill Smith thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
@@HernanSpeed - Today, they are reliable because back in the day, they were not. Many years of changes, helped them today. I think the best 944 was the S2. Super reliable, lots of torque. Easy to work on. It got to that time, Porsche fixed most of the mistakes from the past. It's like 928's and air cooled 911's. They got better over the years but at least not as riddled with problems like the 944 was. Today, there would have been a class action lawsuit due to the timing belt issue. I doubt people would put up with a belt lasting 15K and the warranty ran out at 12K.
@billsmith5960 Bill, then it’s a great thing that we can buy them today….instead of back in the day.
btw, Love the S2…an incredible machine! 🙌🙌
@@HernanSpeed - They were great racecars too. Look up the 944S2 Clubsport. 7 were made. They did so well, I worked for this team back in the day and we won this race with one we built our self. th-cam.com/video/DOvBVRW_GC8/w-d-xo.html
@@billsmith5960 I found your comments very interesting. I bought a brand new Guards Red 944 in 1984. I drove it 30k miles and ended up selling it. It was in the shop a bunch for warranty work. Here's what I can recall. The seal around the Porsche emblem on the front fascia wasn't properly installed. The driver side passenger window leaked, the head lights winked at you = one of the motors failed and you had to lift the headlight up. The steering wheel would shake at about 55 mph and then smooth back out. This one they never fixed though I had it in and out of the shop multiple times. And the one that I thought I'd get stuck with, but was pleasantly surprised Porsche covered (I identified it a week before I'd had it one year and it took them about 8 weeks to finally fix) was it would click when turning hard at slow speed in a parking lot. Only click in one direction and only at full turn on the wheel. They said they replaced the steering table, and that didn't fix it either. They told me what it was when they finally fixed it and were a bit embarrassed it took so long to find. Apparently a bolt wasn't screwed in enough and when you turned the wheel just right = at slow speed and all the way over, it would hit the bolt and you'd hear t;-)he click.
Loved, loved, loved the car and now that I'm 65 years old, our 4 kids all have families of their own, I'm looking at getting another one and fixing it up. I'm very handy with a wrench as a DIYer I've done motor jobs, rebuilt master cylinders, replaced clutch plates, throw out bearings and pressure plates etc. so I'm not at all hesitant to get one and fix it myself. I've also got 8 grandkids that I'd love to teach car maintenance and repair to and what better car to have them learn on than a 944 😁
With the experience you had with 944's, which year and model of 944 would you buy today if you were going to fix one up?
I had three two turbos and maintained on the turbo is high, but then again they are older cars even when I got them
Thanks for watching! 🚀🚀
Another awesome video 👍👍
Thanks Andy! 🔥🔥
I have driven my S2 Cab 5 times cross country from coast to coast. Great cars if maintained
Yess indeed!! When probably maintained, these cars last FOREVER!
Alan ShirtSink thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
30 seconds in and Van Sevenson hanging out the ass of his v8 951 !!! 😁😁😁😁
YOU KNOW IT! Gotta start it out right! 🚀🚀
Art Mchugh thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
@@HernanSpeed we love 944s at our house!!! Here is our new unit !!! Enjoy!!!😁😁😁🚘🚘🍺🍺🍺 th-cam.com/video/hCHTXCKGf7U/w-d-xo.html
Thanks very much for the video I just bought a 968 and it has a misfire under load, I will replace all the hoses dist rotor plugs and cables too
but the DME relay where do I find one of those which will fit. I cant find the one in the video thanks James
Yes, sometimes all they need is a tuneup. You can find the DME relay here, you can also send them a message through their Facebook page.
www.ftech9.com/new-products/993-ssr-pp
Dr James Brown thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
I love your channel! Very informative and interesting for Porsche fans. I have two questions: 1) Do these maintenance and servicing tips also apply to the 924 S which has the same engine as the early 944's? 2) Would you recommend the 924 S in terms of future investment?
Yess. Most maintenance items apply, I didn’t go in-depth. The earlier cars have the simpler 8 valve motors, so in many ways…they’re easier to maintain IF they’re already in good shape.
For investment, I’d only go with color that people like at car shows. These are colors that if the car has to be sold at some point, you’re phone will be ringing off the hook! So Minerva Blue, Signal green, Raylle Yellow. As with most older classic Porsche’s, people are looking for conversation pieces…that’s why you’re seeing so many extreme colors when people restore older Porsche’s.
Julian M thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
You missed a big defect in early 944, pre 87...water pump...other than timing belt, this is the thing you need to paid alot attention to. I had owned 4 944 over the yrs, all of them needed to replace the water pump during my ownership.
Yes it is an issue. This usually only happens with aftermarket water pumps, people want to save money and buy the cheaper Chinese pump. It’s also a major issue with 928’s. The original German-made pumps last 70k+ miles 💯💯
Thanks for watching man! 👊👊
I sold my 1993 968 last year. I wished I didn't. It was a great little car. I still have my 1988 924 S4
Ohh man! I know the feeling! Every single car I sell, I end up regretting it sooner or later. Then I start searching again 🤣 I guess hunting for the perfect car is also part of the fun
Tommy thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
If you like 924s, you may enjoy my video of my wife's car !! Cheers !!-🍺🍺🍺😁😁🚘 th-cam.com/video/QUfjyPfNAss/w-d-xo.html
fantastic video, thanks
You got it man! 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Marc Moto thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Love the videos. I recently purchased a 1 owner, garage kept 968 and I am really enjoying it. It came with a perfect dash (non-leather). Any thoughts about how best to keep it that way? Any favorite conditioning products? Thanks.
Congrats!! 🍾 Great choice! I only use Aerospace 303 on the dashboards, it really works. If you’re going to park the car outside in the heat, get the Covercraft windshield screen “UVS100” (it’s incredible). And for the leather seats, use Lexol only.
I’ve tested everything here in the Miami heat, this is what holds up.
Clore Automotive thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
@@HernanSpeed Thanks so much for the reply and tip. Just what I was hoping to learn. It will be garage kept, but willl still see sunny days when parked, so I will get both. My newly acquired vehicle has only 52K miles, but not a ton of service in the last ten years, so, working with a very experienced mechanic here in KC, I had the timing belt and water pump replaced, the cam tensioner chain serviced, most fluids replaced, new plugs and updated the original shocks and struts with Koni. I have a clean start and it is driving great. Again, your videos are excellent. Thanks.
Sounds like you got a great one! 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Very nice
PACMAN thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
@@HernanSpeed always man keep it up great channel
I’m debating, 944 or 928. Which one is the most fun to drive?
It depends, which one is in the best condition! With the age of these cars, the condition affects everything. I’ve driven 944’s that were better than 928’s, and the other way around. So basically, they all drive different…all because of the condition. Go test drive a few, you’ll see why it’s so important
ClearCandorTV thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Can anyone explain the result of a bad odometer gear? Does it stop recording mileage?
Correct 💯💯💯
In the age of social media, and ebay maintained on these porsches are easy and cheap. When I had mines, there were no media, so I had to go to porsche for repairs.
You speak only the facts 💯💯👊👊
Do you have a shop? I'm in south florida with a 944 as well
Hi 👋🏻 No shop, this channel is something I do for fun so my kids can learn about cars & video production
RS4KING thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Hey! Hernan used my clutch video clip at 4:53! I want royalties paid..... (kidding).
Everyone go check out Cameau Racing Enterprise’s TH-cam channel! 👊👊 Great content! 💯🚀🚀
Thanks for watching bro! 🔥🔥
@@HernanSpeed Your welcome, You have some good info about the maintenance.
Is a1987 944 turbo with 20 k miles considered real clean what would be rhe value??
Absolutely! 💯 Especially if it’s got all the records to verify the mileage. Prices fluctuate all the time, and from season to season (best time to sell is Spring). Do a search on Bring a Trailer and look for the completed auctions of cars with similar mileage, that will give you a good ballpark on prices. (Only search prices for the past 18 months)
Expensive Taste Kastro thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
As a precious Miata owner and a current 944 owner, I can gladly say going for the Miata is not settling and is a (I’m about to go there) funner car to drive 😬😂
The Miata and 944 are very different cars, not comparable. I can only see the Miata being funner if you’re comparing it to a 944 that needs lots of work.
MrUglyFinosaur Thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
In other words you have different preferences....thanks....the internet really needed to know what you like, so appreciate the really helpful comment. By the way I really like my shirt but not my other shirt....so I wear this one....
@@locophoto6881 Well if you wanna go that direction, was your shirt ever mentioned in the video? 😂 last I recall there was a mention about 944's compared to miatas. if comment sections and internet discussions weren't made for opinions and perspectives, than what for?
@@MrUglyDinosaur Why makes points with a guy that just misses the point? Your comment ...to spell it out slowly for the slow....is an opinion....not a "conversation"....so telling someone hey I like those Dodgers....is about as helpful and pointless as an empty ballpoint pen....why bother telling the world that you like a different car? It's pointless waste of your time.
And the shirt example was showing you how inane your comment is...why not tell us what shirt you like and what shirt you don't? Why do you care that we know what you like dude? We don't care because that's not what caring about people involves...it's duhhh....we all know that everyone likes different things, so make a comment or conversation that is ACTUALLY edifying or contributive to helping others, or be silent, or...be sure to go to everyone on the street too and just walk up to them and say "I like Miatas. Miatas are my favortite" and get back with us later...pretty sure they'll have the same opinion of you.
@@locophoto6881 Miata's were brought up in the video, therefore warranting conversation about it in the comments. Are you off your meds?
Lots of great information here but you never mention the turbo. I have a 90 turbo cab and I have to say it is the biggest PITA car to work on that I have ever worked on. The engine is very simple, and just looking at it it does not look hard to work on. ie try and remove the dipstick tube. One bolt, clearly visible, looks to be a one or two minute job. Now try and remove that bolt...it takes a while. It seems like the simplest task takes forever. I am sure it is still easier then other Porsches, but a PITA compared to other cars.
I know what you mean, I think this applies to working on most cars. Experience helps a ton, that’s for sure. Proper tools also go a long way, I’ve broken several wrenches.
Cars that need a lift are much harder, especially if all you have is the driveway.
David thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
I've had several 951s, and the only car more challenging I've had was a B5S4. I got so used to pulling the 951 intake manifold I did it in a grocery store parking lot.
If you were up pulling the intake manifold in the parking lot, it wasn’t done properly in the first place.
@@HernanSpeed Why did you have to be such a dick there? I was in high school on a high school budget.
what abou 924 ?
Those 924’s in crazy colors look amazing! Orange, bright Green!! 💯👊👊 They’re more rare, so it’s getting harder to find nice ones..
@@HernanSpeed Oh ok, thx. In Germany, they are not hard to find tho and I will probably go for a 924, because of the price difference
Find a nice one, you’ll love it!! 💯🚀🚀
Your channel is exceptional and you look like a European model. Lol
😂 I’m just a regular 44 yr old that likes cars, and coming out on camera still makes me kinda nervous 😬
Thanks for watching man!
@@HernanSpeed You do a very good job. I just got a used 1983 944 with about 60,000 original miles. Original clutch original everything basically except for water pump and timing belts. My AC is toast and I'm not sure if I need a compressor or a solenoid or just a recharge of Freon. Maybe you have an answer
@drunvert Pull the cap off the recharging port, it looks like a larger version of a tire 🛞 inflation nozzle. Press down the center section (just like removing air from a tire). If freon comes out, it’s charged up….it nothing comes out…it’s empty. That’s the 1st thing I would check ✅
@@HernanSpeed okay. I know where it is. I didn't see anything through the window so it's probably empty. If the three things are freon compressor and no leaks then I comprehend it. If there's solenoids or things like that, let me know. Thanks for getting back to me. I appreciate it.
@drunvert To bypass all fuses/solenoid, just run a long cable from the positive battery terminal to the lead on the compressor (just one wire). Turn on the car, and test it a few seconds at a time. This way you can see if the clutch is engaging or not. I’ve had to do this many times
I'm replacing the motor in a $2000 87 944 and its not that bad lol
Lots of space in the 944’s engine bay, you’ll have it done in no time! 🙌🙌
Blakeke thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
cheap? i live in germany, but if you would want a new fender you would need to pay 2000€ for a new one or around 500€ for a usable used one. Also, good luck restoring rusted sills, the outer piece, wich I think is only made by porsche is 600€ per side... I'm broke now.
Correct! 💯💯 That’s why I said don’t shop for deals, they usually end up costing thousands more than a nice one☝️. With the 944, a restoration is rarely worth it. This video focuses on the maintenance side
Schildi42 thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Or go find a 924S wich has same Engine as the 944na but the 924S is not as heavy as the 944.. so more fun and the 924S is cheeper to buy
Good advice. I like them, especially in crazy colors 🙌🙌 A Nice 924S is getting harder and harder to find, and the prices on them are also going up…sometimes more than a comparable 944.
Mark thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Por-sha
Por-SHAAA! 🙌🙌
Mark Langren thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Ok, I want one, but I'm not a mechanic 🤥
Find a nice one and pay what it’s worth….you’ll just be doing routine maintenance like on any car. But…if you shop around for price and get a ‘Deal’ -prepare yourself for many long nights.
So find the nicest one possible, it will be a total pleasure to own (stay away from projects).
Recycle Spinning thanks for watching!!🔥🔥
@ClimaX Speed whats the market on a 944 , no turbo ? Well maintained. There's a high mileage one close to my location. Claim is it was converted to a manual and has all new clutch and trans rebuilt, etc. New rod bearings. He was not the one had work done however. He bought this way . 200k miles, but work is recent 🤔
If it’s a manual conversion (not original), and high miles…then it’s under $5k. If you want to have a great experience, find an original car that hasn’t been modified ⚙️💯💯💯
That is a lot that can go wrong😂,
Livin on the edge 😆 It’s not that bad when you consider the ages of these cars
Edwin Mens thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
videos like this help you keep your 944 series in "reliable" condition. As he stated, these cars are really easy to work on if you have a little more than basic skills. (I've had a base 944, a 944S2, and two 951s.) They are a blast to drive and own. Do yourself a favor and go get one!
Swap in an LS1 and you get 430 HP from an engine that is as simple as a doorknob and as durable as a hammer. If the car is a Turbo, you only pay a weight penalty of about 30 lbs.
What's needed for the swap? I'm actually considering this but am new to the engine swap arena.
Alot of money
Yes it can be a lot if you pay someone to do it, but many have done it for under $5k themselves (using an LS from a truck, not LS1). I’ve seen many at local road course event’s, they get abused and rarely break down.
@@HernanSpeed yeah, im thinking of doing it too mine eventually or the 07k and if i get squirrely just try the RB26DeTT swap
It’s totally worth it! The adapter will likely be your biggest expense. They’re super light and small, lots of space to work on them. The rb26dett will also be a beast, but you’re gonna have to turbocharge it and make sure it’s properly cooled.. It’s a longer build for sure. Find someone in your area with an LS swap, and get a spin in one! Next level! 🚀🚀🚀
I want to acknowledge you for challenging the myth that 944/968 cars are too complicated to maintain. It is true that this is greatly exaggerated. I want to take this a step further and challenge some of the statements in the video and chat that are equally exaggerated. The statement that if your timing belts goes, you need a new engine. Another grossly exaggerated assumption. I’ve fixed MANY 944 engines after a timing belt failure. The cheapest way was to buy a used head and swap it out along with the obvious associated parts (head gasket, belt, etc). Piston head damage is rare and I’ve NEVER seen reason to junk an engine for this. You also do not need to replace a timing belt annually as one comment mentioned. More unnecessary exaggerations. I know many people, incl so called mechanics, do not fix things anymore. They just replace things. This is not only unnecessary when encountering a timing belt failure, it’s foolish. Just fix the problem. If you’re not willing to fix things, you should probably by driving a newer (and more disposable) car.
I agree! 💯🙌🙌 Lot’s of misconceptions regarding the 944’s! The good thing is that a new generation of people are starting to get into them, and they’ll be make more and more tutorials on how to keep these incredible cars on the road 🙌😎
Dangerous119 thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
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If their such good cars why do you rarely see one with 200k? Meanwhile we see lots of them sidelined for years under 100k.....
If you see one with under 100k sidelined, it’s odometer has been rolled back or it’s been crashed(likely). Thanks for watching man👊👊
@@HernanSpeed Hmm.... I never considered that. Thanks for the video. It was informative
Thanks for watching brother
Answer: No
Reason: My 944 caught fire
Real Answer: Your 944 caught fire because it was not properly maintained. Driving around with old fuel lines is No Bueno, don’t blame the car.
Nathan Rogers thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
@@HernanSpeed Because it wasn't easily maintained? Because it cost more than the car cost to get it maintained the first time?
Nathan, I understand where you’re coming from. I’ve been working on my own cars for 28 years, so I see things a bit differently. Some things jump out as kinda obvious because I’ve been there. I remember being 17 years old and driving around with fuel smell in my 928 😆 I wouldn’t do that today, because I’m going old…and I know it’s a fire waiting to happen.
Sorry that happened to your 944. These are great cars if maintained properly. Sometimes maintenance is expensive if you have to pay for labor. The good thing is that there is countless resources for those that are willing to do most things themselves
@@HernanSpeed Just because there exist resources doesn't mean the person "willing to do most things themselves" have the facilities or resources to do it.
I binged 944 content, but I lived in a condo, and was not allowed to do car maintenance either in my garage or in the parking lot, I didn't have access to garage facilities myself, so I had to find someone capable of working on the car.
Not everyone knows an elite mechanic for vintage European cars. If you know one, or are one, then great, the car is easy to maintain. But for 94.4% of people, that isn't the case.
European cars, especially aged European cars, especially Porsches, are expensive, and most average people aren't going to have the right tools just lying around, because in all likelihood, neither the owner, nor the owners mates have owned a Porsche before, but probably have owned japanese or american cars, and if they even own tools, will own tools more common to those cars, and not classic European cars.
The question was: "Is the Porsche 944 easy maintenance"
Yes:
- if you've worked on cars your whole life
- if all your friends who are mechanics also own one
- if you have owned similar cars in the past
- if you're a mechanic
- if you already own the tools
- if you have the space
- if you have lots of additional money
The answer is no. If you have to provide a whole list of caveats to your "yes" answer, you might need to rethink your yes answer
I just want to add to my previous comment, that the guy I found who was well reputed for working on classic European cars, is the reason for the electrical short that sparked the grease in the engine starting the fire.
So not only is such a skilled mechanic for such a specific category of maintenance difficult to find, but you're not likely to find out how skilled the person is or was until its too late.
easiest car on earth to work on.
You know it! 💯 The better you get, the easier it gets. I remember that I couldn’t even change a tire when I was 15, practice makes a world of difference! 🙌💪💪
Thanks for watching brother! 👊👊
He said Porsche wrong twice in 35 seconds. Lost all credibility and I turned the video off.
Plot Twist: I did it on purpose 😆👊
Cudaman65 thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
The main reason is they are not good looking cars.
Come on…. you know looks is totally subjective☝️I really like Foxbody Mustangs, and many people don’t like them. Many people love the new Toyota Prius, looks like a space shape…but it’s not cool. Everything 80’s is getting red hot, because it’s not common anymore…. The 944 is one of the ultimate poster Porsche’s for many around the world 🌎 Plus… it drives AMAZING 💯🙌
Cartoon king thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
@@HernanSpeed fair point
Jealous much? I guess being so ugly is why they were Porsche's number one selling model, even outselling the 911 back when the 944's came out....and Car and Driver back then called the 944 the best handling car in the world on top of really loving the car. Everyone likes a different look of a woman, everyone dresses differently, everyone likes different everything, so congrats on voicing an opinion, I would just ask what's the significance of your opinion in this context?
Don't buy one of those cars. Go buy a Cayman. They are not classic cars. They are antiques. Parts are hard to find, expensive and the knowledge base is dying off. The only people that should mess with 944/928 are collectors with money and race shops with fab skills.
Everything 80’s is what’s cool now, especially with the younger generations….18 year olds are working on these cars with nooo problems. This is a great thing, it’s not a computer game car…it’s the real deal. Parts are cheap relative to other Porsche models, I know them all.
But…they’re not for everyone. If changing spark plugs, or swapping out brake pads is considered complicated…it’s best to pass on this car, or any classic Porsche.
Flea4061 thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
I’ve had an ‘83 944 for a year now (13 months). It is incredibly reliable, and there are plenty websites to source parts from, if you can’t find a 944 for parts nearby (which are common). Furthermore, the facebook groups are amazing if you’re ever stuck on something. I had a 43-year Porsche technician help me through facebook comments, as well as many others willing to help asap.
I’m 21, this is my fourth car. I started working on cars two years ago, and this Porsche has taught me a lot. It’s a great car - wouldn’t recommend it as a first car, but definitely a strong second.
Best Comment! 🥇☝️ It’s incredible the amount of younger guys that are getting into these 944’s, and taking them to new levels of coolness! 🚀🚀🚀
You can explain to all of us...on TH-cam...how the information is "dying off" when so much information is PRESERVED....on TH-cam.... and 944's share parts with Audi, VW's, and Porsche still makes parts, and there are third party companies as well, and donor car exist all around the country with eBay being an easy source for a lot of things, not to mention the entire internet makes life about as hard as inhaling for those willing to actually try at life versus Xbox their life away.