Porsche Perfection: Unveiling the 968 Club Sport's Secrets | Tyrrell's Classic Workshop

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  • This week on Tyrrell's Classic Workshop, join Iain as he delves into the storied lineage of the Porsche 968 Club Sport. From its humble beginnings with the VW-collaboration Porsche 914, through the evolutionary steps of the 924 and the esteemed 944, we arrive at the pinnacle of design and engineering - the 968 CS.
    Iain Tyrrell lifts this automotive marvel onto the ramp, revealing the secrets of its revered handling capabilities, largely attributed to its ingeniously simple yet highly refined suspension system.
    Dive deep into German car manufacturing's ethos of continuous improvement and how it contrasted with the British industry's penchant for new inventions. Iain's detailed explanation on the whiteboard brings the genius of the 968 CS's suspension to life, making complex engineering concepts accessible and engaging.
    And of course, no exploration of this classic is complete without a road test. Experience the 968 Club Sport's prowess on the open road through Iain's expert lens, showcasing why this car remains a celebrated icon in Porsche's illustrious history.
    For enthusiasts of classic cars and admirers of German engineering finesse, this episode is a testament to the Porsche 968 Club Sport's enduring legacy. Subscribe to our channel for more insights into the world of classic cars, and join us in preserving automotive history.
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    00:00 Introducing the Porsche 968 CS
    14:29 McPherson strut suspension
    20:28 Semi-trailing arm suspension
    29:32 Roadtesting the Porsche 968 Club Sport
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  • @ruedigerhauptstein9941
    @ruedigerhauptstein9941 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Ian, presenting a car video like this and describing the car's performance with "it doesn't set anyone's underwear on fire" without making a face is only possible for an Englishman. This is exactly why I appreciate your videos so much. Compliments on that.

  • @robhaddock2034
    @robhaddock2034 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +163

    The 'shit the back end's out' to "ahhhh lovely" transition is now a classic channel moment.

    • @AZVIDS
      @AZVIDS 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yes!😬😳😱

    • @Carrera-gp9od
      @Carrera-gp9od 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      It definitely got a bit tasty !😂

    • @paulgarrad1581
      @paulgarrad1581 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      The look on your face Ian! :-)

    • @OriginalgEd
      @OriginalgEd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Funniest thing I've seen in ages. Proper LMAO moment.

    • @markthibault8579
      @markthibault8579 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      33:28. Classic.

  • @Matteo_Licata
    @Matteo_Licata 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    It's always a pleasure to listen to Iain explaining how things work, regardless of whether I already knew it or not. The point about reinventing the wheel every time also applies to the Italian car industry. South of the Alps, we could definitely have used more of that patient, methodical refinement approach that has served the Germans so well.

    • @billoddiea
      @billoddiea 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Indeed…isn’t it so refreshing just to naturally listen to someone, as opposed to being constantly railed and hyped up.

    • @kiwiwifi
      @kiwiwifi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Its a bit simplistic attributing refinement under the country banner. The VW Beetle and Ferrari stories is a direct contradiction to this theory. Lamborghini, Toyota, Honda, Nissan...

    • @BlatentlyFakeName
      @BlatentlyFakeName 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      One thing still escapes VW though. How to make a timing chain driven engine which doesn't destroy itself 😂

  • @rallychamp01
    @rallychamp01 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    Ian, you mentioned a few times at the start the 968 was 2.5 litres. The 968 was always 3.0 litres and at the time was the largest capacity 4 cylinder car engine in production. Handles like a dream with bags of smiles.

    • @iain_tyrrell
      @iain_tyrrell  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      Yes- the perils of un- scripted takes. We did know that, honest! Sorry for mis- information

    • @rallychamp01
      @rallychamp01 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      :) keep the little gems coming ​@@iain_tyrrell

    • @Aotearoa_Kiwi
      @Aotearoa_Kiwi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      And the 944 was also 3 litres.

    • @rallychamp01
      @rallychamp01 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Indeed, but started life as a 2.5 then a 2.7 (2.7 for one model year only). All the 944 Turbos were 2.5.

    • @Hvitserk67
      @Hvitserk67 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@rallychamp01The 924 S used the same 2.5 liter engine, but with slightly lower power (150 hp in 1986-1987 and 160 hp in 1988). The 944 S also used the same 2.5 liter engine, but with a 16-valve cylinder head and 190 hp.

  • @bogged2theeyeballs695
    @bogged2theeyeballs695 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    A little over 10 years ago a mate purchased a white 968 CS in Sydney ( Australia )( RHD of course) and was very busy with his business at the time. Knowing I was on holidays at the time he asked me if I could fly there and drive the car back to Melbourne for him.
    I drove from Sydney to Canberra and from there headed up over the Snowy Mountains on the winding mountain roads and back to Melbourne. What a car. Completely in it's element. A trip I will never forget.
    When I arrived and my mate asked what I thought of the car. I told him it was like driving a full size go-kart.

    • @iain_tyrrell
      @iain_tyrrell  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Wonderful experience- thanks for sharing!

    • @arctictruck10
      @arctictruck10 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@iain_tyrrell this car is trash

    • @andrewnichols1023
      @andrewnichols1023 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sounds like an amazing experience in a fantastic car.

    • @andrewnichols1023
      @andrewnichols1023 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@arctictruck10Its totally sorted, based on a 924, 944, with loads of R and D and the later car was so sorted with real German build quality.

    • @arctictruck10
      @arctictruck10 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@andrewnichols1023 my comment still stands that it's a trash Porsche that was made for four years

  • @jtreut
    @jtreut 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    These videos are the highlight of my weekend, Iain. Thank you.

    • @iain_tyrrell
      @iain_tyrrell  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Thank you indeed!🙏

  • @SPFerreiraFerreira
    @SPFerreiraFerreira 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Dear Sir,
    I could not believe how detailed and passionate the review You managed to do about the 968 car.
    As a proud owner of 25 Years of a 94" LHD Cabriolet Midnight blue, purchased in London, and actualy living His ( Her's), life in Lisboa, Portugal. I could not be anymore impressed by your company professionalism and passion. You Sir are a Gentlemen of Automotive passion. For that WE the 968 Onwers we SALUTE YOU. ps: that ACDC remark. Kind regards Eng. Sergio Martins

  • @terencebrown1754
    @terencebrown1754 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The best review of the 968 I’ve seen by far. In depth history , technical analysis and a test drive. Brilliant

  • @SebastianE30
    @SebastianE30 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Even the regular 968 is excellent. I bought a 60,000 miles one for $15,000 in 2019 and it's the best daily driver sports car I've owned. It fits a bicycle or 2 sets of golf clubs. Wonderful car!!

    • @DavidMorley
      @DavidMorley 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Likewise.. most practical and fun car I can imagine. I have done long motorway journeys and also enjoy short blasts in the countryside and can throw a lot of stuff in the rear.

    • @SebastianE30
      @SebastianE30 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DavidMorley I came across a Wimbledon green (!) one at a small used car lot in Philadelphia and drove from Saratoga the next day. I was looking for a cheapo Boxster and ended up with 968 coupe instead. Super happy. Enjoy yours!

    • @andrewnichols1023
      @andrewnichols1023 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Years ago, they were a real bargain

  • @sy2km234
    @sy2km234 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Base, manual 968 coupes are the real bargain nowadays! Everything but some of the weight savings and suspension parts are identical to the CS, but they are much cheaper today. With some fresh Bilsteins and Michelins, it will drive just as well tough.

    • @matthewcoupeofficial
      @matthewcoupeofficial 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The problem is a cheap 968 will most likely be a cabriolet.

  • @digitalimager4946
    @digitalimager4946 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    😆 I had to go back a couple of times to around 13.35 to see the expression on Iain’s face when he opened it up and rounded that bend 😂 Quickly followed by relief and a smile. Priceless.
    As always, a thoroughly enjoyable watch.

  • @joso5554
    @joso5554 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Great tribute to one of the front engine marvels that Porsche came up with in the mi-80’s to mid-90’s, along with its older brother the 944 and the outstanding 928s, s4, GT, GTS.
    It’s such a pity that Porsche gave up on this line.
    Absolutely beautiful cars, too. The 928 being the best with its timeless design.

    • @Yorkshiremadmick
      @Yorkshiremadmick 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      928 was my Favourite Porsche

    • @Landshark928
      @Landshark928 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@Yorkshiremadmickagree😊 the 928 is epic🎉

    • @w.w.trader1813
      @w.w.trader1813 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I confirm

  • @nickmarr1
    @nickmarr1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    It’s an incredible gift you have, Iain, to explain technical matters in such an accessible and engaging manner. I’m a technical Luddite who has an aversion to greasy rags but you had me captivated by the art of maintaining an adequate contact patch! Splendid work, as always. 👏🏻

    • @iain_tyrrell
      @iain_tyrrell  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We’ll take that! Thanks, and glad you appreciated it

  • @daytonaeagle
    @daytonaeagle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Makes me think of my father’s 1986 944 Turbo in Sapphire Metallic bought new from Lynch Porsche in Chicago.. One of the greatest Saturdays in my life was spending a good part of the day with my dad test driving various Porsche’s that day..

  • @franktrcek8917
    @franktrcek8917 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I couldn’t agree more with all his comments. Brilliant technical knowledge, but they are 3.0 litre.
    I am biased though towards it all, because I own one. Purchased new in 1994, and it’s still with me. But it’s the Sport version. It only has 44,000 mls on the clock, and spends more of its time now, with its coat on in my garage.
    Fantastic report.👍

  • @lindaoffenbach
    @lindaoffenbach 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Just fabulous again Ian. Such Mastery of both automotive science and intelligible communication, which is genuinely and distinctively a unique gift. Of course, it does explain the success of your entire business. However, this all for us to enjoy on YT is just not seen before at this top level, and is always such a captivating delight. Thank you so much again 🙂🙂🙂

    • @iain_tyrrell
      @iain_tyrrell  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Thank you for that heartfelt comment too- it’s comments like that that spur us on to keep making them!

  • @MrRandyfive
    @MrRandyfive 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    We have to create an A.I. Robot of Ian tyrell for future generations to appreciate forever his outstanding knowledge of classic cars.

    • @Discovery_Dad
      @Discovery_Dad 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      There's nothing artificial about Iain... I'd rather he just continues building up this excellent body of videos that can be enjoyed (hopefully) for a very, very long time....

    • @joelsmith9311
      @joelsmith9311 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      An A.I Ian Tyrell would never be able to fine-tune a classic Lamborghini V12 by listening to it through the end of an old screwdriver and then tickling it back to health whilst wearing a Rolex Submariner. 😃

    • @andrewnichols1023
      @andrewnichols1023 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He worked on Lamborghini muras and countaches and knows how to tune them.

  • @davecopson
    @davecopson 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I’ve learned a lot from this video, I have both a 968 cab and a coupe and appreciate any knowledge imparted on me. Iain articulates his knowledge in a very easy relaxed style that is simply engaging.

  • @tony8074
    @tony8074 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    First Harry now Iain my weekend is complete. Did I see a 1920’s Bentley in the background?

  • @bhumiriady
    @bhumiriady 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I see a Tyrrell's Classic Workshop video, instant watch for me.^^
    Also, nice to see the Porsche 968 now featured in the channel. In addition, these cars are very underrated indeed.

    • @andrewnichols1023
      @andrewnichols1023 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They were so cheap 12-10 years ago, but now coming into their own and being appreciated.

  • @ManxAndy
    @ManxAndy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Oh what a joy for a Sunday evening , Thankyou…..👍👌🇮🇲

    • @iain_tyrrell
      @iain_tyrrell  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you!

  • @SerbanCMusca-ut8ny
    @SerbanCMusca-ut8ny 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The illustration of "when it's good, you don't see the time fly by". I enjoyed this episode so much that it seemed it only lasted 10 minutes. Packed with knowledge and some other gems (very honourable mention to Iain's face when the rear end of the car decided for a moment to live its best life in that curve), what an episode!

  • @PhilUKNet
    @PhilUKNet 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    After owning a 944S and 944S2 when I lived in the UK, a 968 is what I aspired to. Then I got fed up with the UK, left the country, and that was the end of my Porsche ownership days. I sold my 944S to the Porsche dealership in Colchester and the rep gave me a lift to Colchester train station in his 968 Club Sport. It was a fast car. There was also a 968 Sport which, I believe, was only produced for the UK market. Apparently, some customers thought that the Club Sport was too basic, so the Sport was a Club Sport with the addition of some 'luxury' features - power windows, etc. Looked down upon by 911 snobs, but the Porsche 4 cylinder transaxle cars are lovely to drive.

    • @D4rkS4v4nt
      @D4rkS4v4nt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The car in the video is a Sport ;)

    • @jeffreyflynn3207
      @jeffreyflynn3207 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don’t suppose you remember the colour of that 968CS? My Grand Prix white Club Sport was originally sold through Lancaster Colchester in 1994. I believe it originally came with matching white wheels, but now has red ones to match the side decals

  • @F1Supremo1
    @F1Supremo1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love it when Mr. Tyrrell diverges....one of the best car shows on YT. Thank you for yet another top show.

  • @TM-gg9ko
    @TM-gg9ko 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for taking the time and the white board to explain some of the suspension designs benefits and shortcomings it was a welcome detour

  • @markthibault8579
    @markthibault8579 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Classic quote at 23:58, "Porsche really did refine what's basically is a flawed design into something that works superbly". Seems to apply to Porsche's rear-engined 911 design as well.

  • @shaunbromley8445
    @shaunbromley8445 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    These and the 928s are simply class.

  • @LOTPOR0402
    @LOTPOR0402 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

    Car and a half , but the 944 especially in Turbo/S2 form was a better looking car

    • @iain_tyrrell
      @iain_tyrrell  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Yes, a very good looking car the earlier ones

    • @David-gn2qp
      @David-gn2qp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      My dad had the 944 silver rose edition.. circa 1990.. absolute stunning with the turbo etched on the front wing.. burgundy tartan plaid interior no sunroof !.. thanks for this presentation excellent and informative...

    • @reginaldbowls7180
      @reginaldbowls7180 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I disagree.

    • @racekar80
      @racekar80 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree, 944 Turbo was perfect, tried to make a mini 928

    • @stephen300o6
      @stephen300o6 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Lets argue subjectivity.

  • @peterlewis3540
    @peterlewis3540 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What a remarkable video, such incredible detail, and spoken with such authority and knowledge of the subject.
    A sight for sore eyes, so many Lambo Murias dotted around the garage, i didn't realise how common a sight on British roads they are, and that pre war Bentley. STUNNING
    This has to be the best motoring channel out there, cant get enough of it.

  • @jessen00001
    @jessen00001 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Oh this one brings back memories ❤ remembering my early days in mechanical school and a friend had one. Seems like yesterday but its over 20 year's ago 😅

  • @uniqueaustraliandestinatio1352
    @uniqueaustraliandestinatio1352 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    The 944 was smooth as silk from my experience, particularly at speed.

    • @andrewnichols1023
      @andrewnichols1023 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The 944 was so balanced with the smoothest 4 pot engine ever made, the 968 was a little too raw with harsh suspension an S2 944 is definitely the better car.

  • @davidfisk212
    @davidfisk212 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Great video! Sport and Clubsport variants are both excellent; well they’re both from the Clubsport line. This particular car is well known in 968 circles and is 1 of 306 special order Sports (Porsche GB ordered them) and not 1 of 179 C16 CS cars. Still a very rare car. Rather than bring snobbery though, the issue is that the market values Sports and CSs differently and if a car is being passed off as a 1 of 179 CS to up its perceived value, then that’s naughty and as ever, Caveat Emptor. The Lux pack is a misnomer. It wasn’t an option on the CS in the UK, though was in Europe. The Sport is the equivalent and because it came from the same production line, will doubtless have the Porsche certificate of authenticity that it has a CS VIN number, which it will. But it’s still a special order Sport.

    • @iain_tyrrell
      @iain_tyrrell  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Thanks. The car is not marketed yet, but great efforts will be made to clarify what appears to be something of a minefield!

    • @davidfisk212
      @davidfisk212 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Probably have photos of it somewhere pre decals and sporting the Sport badge…

    • @artureff3046
      @artureff3046 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@davidfisk212leaving Iain garage it will be better than any CS 😊

    • @jakerade1
      @jakerade1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@iain_tyrrell I know one of the previous owners (M.P. in the docs) if you want more info as I test drove it for him in Dec13. I think his number is in the file and he put the CS stickers on the sides etc and prob owned it the longest most recently. Hope this helps!

    • @davidfisk212
      @davidfisk212 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I don’t doubt Iain knows his onions and the car will be excellently presented. But it doesn’t change the fact that it’s a Sport and therefore worth less than a CS. But ultimately, it’s only worth what someone will pay for it but Iain has a reputation to protect so will want to do his due diligence to avoid any misrepresentation.

  • @JVR_Funwithdesign
    @JVR_Funwithdesign 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    The 924S has the same 2.5L 8 valve engine from the 944. I think you are thinking of the 944S and 944S2 for the 16V heads.

    • @iain_tyrrell
      @iain_tyrrell  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Yes- the perils of unscripted takes!

    • @JVR_Funwithdesign
      @JVR_Funwithdesign 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@iain_tyrrell 👍 mistakes happen.
      But featuring the 968 wasn't one of them.

    • @andrewnichols1023
      @andrewnichols1023 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think the 924s had a Porsche engine, not the VW lump and lighter and faster than an early 944.

    • @JVR_Funwithdesign
      @JVR_Funwithdesign 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@andrewnichols1023 that's what I said.

  • @kennethlamb378
    @kennethlamb378 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Ah . . . nostalgia. I was one of those blokes that brought his 944 in to be serviced in Iain's garage next to Windsor's of Wallasey at the bottom of Grove Road. It was Yuppie time in the late eighties and the cars to have were certainly the Porsche's and BMW 3 series. We really thought we were the dog's having a pint in the Nelson with our chinos, striped shirts and ties. We really were a load of plonkers.

    • @iain_tyrrell
      @iain_tyrrell  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I remember you and your 944 well. It was immaculate, and you were a Gent. Happy days!

    • @kennethlamb378
      @kennethlamb378 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Thank you Iain. It's great to know that in a small way I contributed to your success by paying my bills on time ! Very pleased to see how well you have done and greatly appreciate your videos.

  • @wolfganghobelsberger6720
    @wolfganghobelsberger6720 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    On every episode you learn something new engineering wise...like the Lanchester balancing shaft principle. Never heard about it before. Thank you.

    • @iain_tyrrell
      @iain_tyrrell  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you too!

  • @natestepner2201
    @natestepner2201 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    “How much fun can you have!” That sums up the driving experience rather well. Great video.

  • @julianrichards1585
    @julianrichards1585 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    As usual an excellent video, but you missed out the key evolution step between 924 and 944. The 924 carrera GT was that step. 75 made in RHD 400 overa;ll to homologate for group 4 so they could race at Le Mans. light weight plastic panels for front and rear wings from which the 944 steel shell was derived.
    with 210 bhp form 2 liters and less than 1000kg no one could call it slow.

  • @davidporeilly1
    @davidporeilly1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for your video Ian.
    It's worth knowing that it )the 924) started life as a VW group project. They got cold feet and sold it back to Porsche. They had to pay a licence fee per unit.
    In the USA it was called "Audi-Porsche 924".
    The balance shaft technology while invented by the gentleman stated was licensed from Mitsubishi who used it badged ad "Astron Silent Shaft" in their 1980s large 4 cylinder engines.

  • @user-gc1zn5mn4p
    @user-gc1zn5mn4p 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Iain, you did a great job describing the German psyche. I'm American yet I have family in Rheinland Pfalz in Germany, so I understand the German psyche (which is also my psyche). The German psyche is to evolve technology. It can be summed up in German "Deutsch gemacht--alles in Ordnung" --German engineered, everything in order.

    • @iain_tyrrell
      @iain_tyrrell  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you!

    • @volkerkonig9376
      @volkerkonig9376 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I am german and I fear we are loosing this" german made, all in order"in the moment. There are to many german people around whose interest is only in "work- life balance" and " save the planet from climate change". Instead of hard and consistant labour which our ancestors did and in which way Germany was rebuild after the catastrophic WW 2.

    • @user-gc1zn5mn4p
      @user-gc1zn5mn4p 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@volkerkonig9376 Da hast du Recht. Of course it is important that we all protect this planet that we live on, because that is healthy for us to do. Aber, auf der anderen Seite, es gibt mehr und mehr, dass zu viele Leute arbeiten nicht werden. They use politically correct nonsense to do so. Das ist nicht richtig, aber das ist zurzeit die Situation.

    • @user-gc1zn5mn4p
      @user-gc1zn5mn4p 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@volkerkonig9376 Da hast du Recht. It's good for us to be concerned about this planet because our health depends on it. Aber, auf der anderen Seite, heutzutage wollen viele Leute nicht zu arbeiten. That's to their disadvantage eventually, yet it does affect global productivity. Aber das ist zurzeit die Situation.

  • @bradcaldwell9158
    @bradcaldwell9158 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    968: Now I regret never driving one. Thanks, Iain.
    944: A very good, genuine sports car.
    924: Why was this unpleasant car ever sold?
    914: My favorite Porsche: the best handling car I've ever driven. Big power is unnecessary because you never have to slow.
    Iain's points are so spot on. For example, so many friends have ruined their cars' handling changing tire sizes it sickens me. And "new and improved" is too often just "new."

  • @jeffaurand2345
    @jeffaurand2345 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The link between the 924 and 944 is the 924S; it had the 2.5 engine and 5-lug wheels in the 'narrow' (no fender flares)
    924 body. The giveaway for the Audi-engined 924s are their 4-lug wheels.

  • @peterbroadwood476
    @peterbroadwood476 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your video of the 968 has just given the seller of the car the best advert he could ever have.

  • @MatthewH2000
    @MatthewH2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a passionate aircooled Porsche fan and owner, I will say the 968 CS is the one watercooled I would love to have. Its styling, the jettison of creature comforts, and the improved performance and handling seems like it would be such a fun car to drive.

  • @DaRockCRX
    @DaRockCRX 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    944 and an original Honda Nsx are the best cars I have ever driven in terms of driver engagement, inputs and reward. amazing machines!

    • @andrewnichols1023
      @andrewnichols1023 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Both great cars, but a 2.7 1973 carrera RS is the ultimate, when you get used to the peddles coming out the floor, which feels odd, it’s an amazing car, I drove one before they became silly money in the late 90s, I can see why they fetch a premium today.

  • @ianbrade7754
    @ianbrade7754 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Loving the vernacular, which reminds reminds me of my youth in Staffordshire...
    "Tetchy"! ... another one to add to Craig's "scufted" and "lost its gumption" from past episodes...
    Keep it going, Iain, we're soaking it all up!
    All humour aside, your channel is good for my mental health, and i suspect, that of many others, so thank you.

  • @realnopeus
    @realnopeus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It's a pleasure to listen to technical topics. The 968 it's a car that always intrigued me, amazing lesson.

  • @storvay
    @storvay 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What a fantastic video, as always. The sheer joy of sitting through what feels like the most fascinating lecture from the most gifted professor. Thanks Iain.
    This video had a particular draw as we owned a 944S back in 88. As a teenager, I used to go on about balancer shafts as if I knew what I was talking about - now, as a middle aged type, I actually do, thanks to this!

    • @iain_tyrrell
      @iain_tyrrell  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you indeed, and glad you liked it!

  • @lanceboyle4255
    @lanceboyle4255 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This brought back the regret that I had over selling my 89 S2. I remember diving down the twists on the Trans Canada highway into Golden BC and thinking that everyone should get to have that feeling.

  • @jibmaster
    @jibmaster 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just took ownership of a 94' coupe in Midnight Blue Metallic end of Nov last year. Futzing through a paint correction and old seals. Mechanically wonderful. I agree with you Ian, very under appreciated and one of the best handling Porsches ever made! A nice addition to the 964 in the garage. I love the technical explanations of McPherson struts and trailing arms. Thanks for sharing.

  • @jessen00001
    @jessen00001 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Saw a 2006 Porsche 911 4S Ducktail" yesterday's
    It stod like new and its was a splendid day. Isn't it wonderful that something like this can make us like children again. Cars really bring people together.

  • @winstonbunn4624
    @winstonbunn4624 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Let's not forget the standard 968 handles beautifully too!

  • @petertuil9573
    @petertuil9573 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I used to have a mark 1 Porsche 944 with targa roof in the color 'saphirblau metallic' with the pasha interior. It was such a good balanced car and even with it's stock 163 bhp engine it was fast enough. In my memories I can still hear the whistling sound of those balance shafts while revving up the engine. I regret that I sold it.

  • @karlfontanari2169
    @karlfontanari2169 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video as usual, and brought back many memories as I had one of these in yellow with matching wheels and yellow backed Recaro seats and no rear ones so the hard core version, loved it, and then traded to an E36 M3, ah those were the days, mid 90's.

  • @darrellhunt5214
    @darrellhunt5214 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice video. Had my 1995 Polar Silver 968 Sport (CS Lux) since Aug'03 (so, 20yrs). Its always consistent thanks to its build quality. Very under appreciated car, swiss army knife of sports cars. Not a max bhp or sub 6sec 0-62 but as a complete package, its very good. Track day'd it very slightly & been around europe in it a few times, go-kart when you want & cruiser when you don't.

  • @bullbreeduk4917
    @bullbreeduk4917 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Had two 944's one a 2.5 the other a 2.7 great cars. always fancied a 968 but never got round to it !

    • @andrewnichols1023
      @andrewnichols1023 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Buy a 3.0 S2 944 a much better car the 968s suspension was way to hard, plus it comes with the turbo body and later cars come with a much prettier rear spoiler

  • @gustavoflorio5383
    @gustavoflorio5383 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Always a delight to watch Mr. Tyrrell on Sundays!

  • @anttia5921
    @anttia5921 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you Tyrrell for the white board-parts in your videos. Really interesting!👍

  • @frednerk8366
    @frednerk8366 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I had one of these in Grand Prix white and It's the only car I regret selling. I bought an M5 as it's replacement and that was the only car I regret buying.

  • @stephane_edouard
    @stephane_edouard 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My very first car was a 968 convertible and i kept it for almost 15 years. Too bad maintenance was a pain, here in France. Most Porsche specialists knew too little about them, or didn't even want to work on them. Parts availability was also an issue.

  • @ErikDB6
    @ErikDB6 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My all time favourite road driving sports car is the original 944S, without the handling package. Perfect ride/handling balance. The engine is smoother and more fun than the later versions. But, with more feedback and lower limits then the sport suspension versions, you could drive it really hard on the road without fear of getting in too much trouble. Brilliant car.

  • @markwgoldsmith
    @markwgoldsmith 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As always, a pleasure to watch & very informative. I'm a big fan of the 924/944/968 cars. Lucky enough to drive a few, although never got the right moment to buy one.

  • @Carrera90
    @Carrera90 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Genuine gift of explaining quite complex engineering principles….. brilliant again Ian👌

  • @streetpilot775
    @streetpilot775 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Another great video, Ian. Love the nerdy bits. I never knew that the counterbalance shafts canceled each other out at TDC. I had to put a water pump in my 84, 944 and it took me 10 hours due to the timing of all the sprockets being so crucial. Getting the timing belt tension correct was also crucial. I remember being a bit frustrated that it took me 10 hours, but I called the dealership and they said they charge eight hours for that job. So I guess I didn’t do too badly for my first try.

    • @iain_tyrrell
      @iain_tyrrell  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Good effort I’d say.

  • @acd1202
    @acd1202 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The first time i drove a 968CS was on the A6 over Shap Fell back in 1997. When that 3 litre 4 went onto the third cam stage at 5k, and it took off to the limiter at 6800, it was a revelation, and the handing. Loved it then, and I would love one again.

  • @timhaywood6604
    @timhaywood6604 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That’s my old car !! Had it for several years , about 2 years ago. It has a fantastic service history and file of work done , it was a bit of a mess when I got it, nice to see my clean engine bay is still shiny😂. I put it through a classic auction and despite the letter from Porsche and a few other bits of proof, the consensus was it actually isn’t a club sport !! It’s just a Sport lux, without a rear wiper, with elec widows and rear seats, it’s right on the change year. I replaced the stickers and rear badge and put black Ppf on the leading edges of the wings and sills to protect against stone chips . Loved that car, used it hard , it drove so well and never let me down. Polished it to death , if I remember right the paint is a bit thin on the front passenger wing and under the door handle . I has the worlds largest 4 cylinder production engine , it’s a 3ltr .
    Lovely to see it again , gone some great pics of it somewhere . Sorry to say it’s not a true Club Sport , but no one really knows, enjoy it

  • @jean-jacqueskaselorganreco6879
    @jean-jacqueskaselorganreco6879 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dear Iain, you definitely should have a professor title at an engineers university, your in detail explanations on any part of any car are so precise, and yet so understandable, even for a non mechanic, it really makes those videos paedagocially of the highest value.Everybody should follow those.I still remember the RR Clound breaking system one,it was fabulous.Please continue this path, invaluable informations for us all! Many thanks

    • @iain_tyrrell
      @iain_tyrrell  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s great to hear. Thank you

  • @han5k2
    @han5k2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The engineering details are a great addition to your presentation-- thanks for sharing!

  • @nigeldewallens1115
    @nigeldewallens1115 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That was a joy to hear you explain all about the suspension! It was also a joy for me! To see this lovely car! Thanks ever so much!

    • @iain_tyrrell
      @iain_tyrrell  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you!

  • @dalefriesen8676
    @dalefriesen8676 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great fun Mr. Tyrrell! Your Classic Workshop along with Harry's Garage and Farm are Sunday morning must views. Many thanks for sharing your years of valued experience. I'm curious what this fine example of a 968 will bring.

  • @fransb8543
    @fransb8543 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Makes me miss my old 1985.5 944, I went through that car front to back and it drove and rode like new, even the shifter linkage was tight after I put some flat model helicopter bearings on the rod-to-lever pin. It was just so lovely and balanced. Never left me stranded, pretty nice to work on and would just keep accelerating because of the low drag. And it looked stunning on its larger polished aluminium 16 inch turbo teledials

    • @iain_tyrrell
      @iain_tyrrell  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think a lot of people wish they still had them these days

    • @fransb8543
      @fransb8543 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@iain_tyrrell I console myself knowing it went to a loving home and it allowed me, then a student just finishing my college, to buy my other childhood dream: an olive green pearl 850 T-5R manual estate. Looking back, the cars I owned in my twenties were the most special, before life threw its inevitable spanners of responsibility into the works.
      Thanks for another highly enjoyable episode, Iain.

  • @ganz7ful
    @ganz7ful 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love this. You learn so much: engineering, history. Brilliant.

  • @TheMarcball
    @TheMarcball 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hey, I actually enjoy thoroughly the digressions into the broader perspectives of nations' comparative industrial cultures, aviation parallels and the like.
    This is a valuable use of Mr T's deep love and understanding of his profession.

    • @iain_tyrrell
      @iain_tyrrell  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s great to hear- thank you!

  • @MangoNizer
    @MangoNizer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's just incredible the knowledge this man has about all kinds of cars!

  • @Marc-oe1hg
    @Marc-oe1hg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Absolutely wonderful"! Iain you said it best! Being German and an engineer working in the automotive industry, this one went down like a piece of delicious German chocolate. Thank you for all the work you put into these videos.

    • @iain_tyrrell
      @iain_tyrrell  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for appreciating!

  • @alansorbie4038
    @alansorbie4038 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great video, nice to see the 968 getting some coverage. I spent a few happy years with a cheap old 944 which was a fantastic car and despite having Boxsters since, and now a 911 I’ll always have a fondness for these transaxle cars.

  • @georgebettiol8338
    @georgebettiol8338 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Porsche elected to use a balance shaft system on the 944 to 'subdue' to the unbalanced secondary forces generated by an in-line four cylinder - which become 'notable' as the capacity (and hence recipricating mass) of the engine increases. Whilst the balance shaft system was actually invented by the Englishman Frederick Lanchester in 1907, Mitsubishi developed and patented their own version called the 'Silent Shaft' in 1976.
    Porsche did develop their own balance shaft system for the 944 however, Porsche discovered that the Mitsubishi system was a superior solution. Consequently, Porsche paid Mitsubishi a royalty of circa $US 6 to 8 per car to use Mitsubishi's 'Silent Shaft' for their large capacity 4 cyl engines - i.e. the 944 and 968 Porsche cars.

  • @stevensumner3146
    @stevensumner3146 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great vid with lots of key information put in a simple way, love the use of a whiteboard it really helps as it’s just what’s required rather than relying on diagrams with additional detail cluttering up the description.
    Bravo Mr Tyrrell 👏

  • @PaulFellows3430
    @PaulFellows3430 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Iain, I thought you'd spoiled us by giving us 2 sessions of the white board but then we had a 3rd!! Fabulous!! Joking aside, a great video of a great car.

  • @AUDIDOIT
    @AUDIDOIT 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a superb video, so much information and facts on the car and the way it was engineered. Really enjoyed that. Thank you sir. 🙏🏻

  • @alexbrady8893
    @alexbrady8893 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks Iain, in a world of 30 second shorts, TikTok it’s so nice to have a longer form and the detail is just fantastic. Have a great weekend.

    • @iain_tyrrell
      @iain_tyrrell  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you- you too!

  • @ganeshshenoy1102
    @ganeshshenoy1102 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Prof. Ian nails it yet again with another episode... Thank u ❤ and respect from India🇮🇳

    • @iain_tyrrell
      @iain_tyrrell  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you indeed!

  • @justaddafan
    @justaddafan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another great video! I've never owned a transaxle Porsche but several years ago I did test drive a few 944s with the intent to buy. The 944S that I was near purchasing was a real visceral pleasure to drive. That one had really feelsome, manual steering and a 4 valve eager engine. Wonderful cars.

  • @andrewwebber5910
    @andrewwebber5910 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Absolutely fascinating - I really look forward to you sharing your technical insights

  • @individual1977
    @individual1977 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Love to see a Maserati Biturbo series (83-91) video if one ever shows up for service. Thanks!

    • @iain_tyrrell
      @iain_tyrrell  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      See what we can do. Thanks

    • @bobcoats2708
      @bobcoats2708 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They do break down on occasion, so you have that on your side.

  • @PakdbyCellpak
    @PakdbyCellpak 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    All the 968 versions were 3.0. The last of the 944 s2 was also a 3.0. Great engines these, better on a track than the 2.5 turbos due to no lag, loads of linear power and big power at high revs due to variable valve timing. Owned all variants inc a 968 M030 CS non lux. One of these with a fast road/track geo setup is a wonderful thing 😎, one with a poor geo set up will have you if not careful! 👹

  • @melbguy1
    @melbguy1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I test drove a 968CS in the early 90's through Hamilton's Porsche in Melbourne (Australia) and it is simply the best handling car i've ever driven or been driven in. I actually had trouble keeping it in the LH lane as it's steering so accurate and so little steering input was required to turn the car. And no Porsche auto-blip. It was a real drivers car. I loved it and would happily buy a good example today if I was shopping in that price range. Apropos that, the 968CS is underloved like the 996.2 911's & are a great buy.

  • @MrSpartanPaul
    @MrSpartanPaul 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I test drove a new 968 in 93. Really nice car. 100 in 4th felt like 50 and I had THREE people in the car! The bank rejected my loan application though.

  • @TheAslakVind
    @TheAslakVind 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am in love. And given the fact that you Sir already is promised away, I am in love with that exact 968 CS. Love the spec, always had a soft spot for them fter McLaren F1 and Bugatti Veyron testdriver John "Super" Nielsen raced it at Le Mans! Quite an oddball car, but he praised its balance with the trans axle. Great video!

    • @iain_tyrrell
      @iain_tyrrell  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting/ thanks!

  • @luislealsantos
    @luislealsantos 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nothing like another brilliant episode of Tyrrell encyclopedia with Master on the wheel. Thanks to all the team.

  • @DonAl9114
    @DonAl9114 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi there. I had the pleasure of owning a 968 back in den mid nineties. Working close to the factory in Stuttgart , i saw these cars every day and my second Porsche was a 968 , factory car , fully equipped. The 968 CS was a version that was presented a bit later and to me it was a campaign to get more order intake and more cars on the road. The price of the 968 CS was much lower than a standard 968 and the interior looked really poor to me. All in all , the 968 is a wonderful car to drive. It has lots of space inside and enables to go on holiday with all luggage required. The engine is very powerful , even though only with 4 cylinder. Today you can find good cars for small money. 😀😀

  • @eldorado767
    @eldorado767 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At the DeHavilland Comet: "But I'm digressing massively."
    Please sir, continue digressing! It's little nuggets like this I find so fascinating!

  • @johnwehrle7206
    @johnwehrle7206 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Have had a 1992 968 Cabriolet since 2010- a wonderful handling car with good power. Have owned early 911’s and I must say that the balance of the 968 is vastly superior. Thanks for the great video.

  • @Farlig69
    @Farlig69 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a 1988 944 Silver Rose Turbo and can totally agree - this chassis is without a doubt a very very fine handling car!!!

  • @sid9983
    @sid9983 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I am not a Porsche enthusiast but i like this one! Great Video as ever 😀😀😀😀

  • @Boyzee355
    @Boyzee355 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another fantastic insight, love the white board and understanding how components work and why. I love how unpredictable the unchosen cars featured are- always the best surprise and never a dull episodes in the slightest. Sir Tyrrell saluted as always 🫡

    • @iain_tyrrell
      @iain_tyrrell  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you indeed!

  • @AngelFloyd27
    @AngelFloyd27 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What a fantastic video this one. Technical, nerdy, and joyful to watch. Exceptional.

  • @leobuckey
    @leobuckey 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you so much for the explanations and white board drawings! Very interesting

    • @iain_tyrrell
      @iain_tyrrell  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you!

  • @sigismundauchinleck
    @sigismundauchinleck 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A true Porsche moment at 33:35.........a fine tradition since the 1950's.......

  • @MrRandomcommentguy
    @MrRandomcommentguy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The 968 is my favorite Porsche. For me the it is one of the best sports cars from the 90's. Not bad for something which evolved from the 924 which was a bit of an odd parts-bin concoction that had a very uncertain place within the larger Porsche/Audi/VW lineup, with a lot of confusion and to-ing and fro-ing over whose badge it would ultimately wear, eventually coming to be branded as a Porsche. Hardly an auspicious beginning to what would become a celebrated series of sports cars. But it has always been something of an underdog in Porsche history which is one of the reasons I personally find it so appealing.

  • @neilobusk
    @neilobusk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Paper and marker to explain things..........
    Fantastico.....
    you make a great story teller...
    N x