Yeah I can't understand that at all. Do the cops seriously expect someone who was just assaulted to call right in front of the person who just showed they will not be averse to violence to get their way?
@@fluidwolfif the roles were reversed,or she had falsely accused him of hitting her. See how fast the cops act. Dudes, tackled to the ground, guns drawn while the damsel in distress is whisked away to safety.
ikr? My friend told me that her ex's father used to beat her mom. Then, once she called the cops on him, they did beat him up and took him to jail, for a day, so when he was free he came back and beat his wife again because of what the cops "did to him because of her" 😑 they should take this things more seriously
Well, what do you want the law to say? Please write that down and run it through cases like: man assaults woman man assaults man woman assaults woman woman assaults man and each with the assault “true” and “made up”. If you come up with something that works, tell us, and we can then add in children, provocations, disabilities etc. A Temporary Restraining Order is the way to keep yourself safe for now, report the attack, pursue it later on.
Story 2: “It’s your fault for getting punch!” “Repeat after me. ‘I will never say anything about Remus again!’” What the actual fuck???? This woman needs to be in a psych ward!
Story 1: OP and current wife deserve each other. He cheated, and he got a cheater. His ex, who is unselfish enough to encourage the children to love their father in spite of new wife's nastiness, gets a guy who not only loves her, but is wealthy. Sounds like karma to me!
You get what you give! OP has no one but himself to blame, & his nasty current wife has no one but herself to blame, but just watch them tear into each other!
....bruh stop hating on op so much dam help a guy out he and his ex wife made up enough that they can talk about this and your put here saying deserved deserved....like dam
Story 2: "Well, that's a shame that you didn't call the police while the armed gunman was burgling your home and robbing you at gun point. Since you called an hour after your home got broken into, and not while the thief was there, there's nothing we can do about it." The power of putting a different context into a situation.
#2 - Shame on the officers for trying to berate OP for calling after the fight. How the hell is a VICTIM supposed to call in the middle of things when the aggressor is still present and still a danger to them? Do not agree with their response at all, but that is often set by the brass and needs to be addressed! This from someone who dispatched for many years and knows what kind of BS that was.
How about the victim was constrained to stay until the Karen left her? Isn't that unlawful confinement? What were the police thinking? I would love to know the town and state this took place.
If this had been a male roommate that'd hit a female roommate y'all know he would've been forcibly removed right then and there. But it was the other way around and They bitch at Him for not following Their protocol?!? WTF is wrong with this world? 😡
Story 2 now has an update: "Update: I went to the local court. They told me it would be hard to get a protection order on a roommate who isn't/wasn't in a relationship with me and kick her out. I'll still do it anyways because I dont have other options. FML"
Jeez, the civil servants where OP lives are useless. If a person you are living with has become physically abusive, it shouldn't matter whether or not the two of you are dating or related.
The FULL line is "The customer is always right in matters of taste," meaning that it doesn't matter how ugly or gaudy you think something is, if the customer thinks it looks good and wants to buy it, you sell it.
That's the actual original meaning and use. But for a LONG time it's just been "the customer is always right (about everything even when they're not)". Try to convince them they're wrong. Good luck with that.
There's another way that's been stated, as I had worked with the public. The other way it's been stated id the the customer is almost always right. Which in that case as another customer, I'd likely suddenly develop a strong dose of patience, and wait in the line with the full intent of calling them down and out. I'd also close with a favorite line I picked up many years ago which is, take an aerodynamically inclined procreational thrust at a laterally rotating toroidal pastry. Fortunately I'd never had to deal with such individuals when I was still working, nor been behind someone trying the pull that type of male bovine droppings.
Update on Story 1: They are getting a divorce. The new wife went into a tear filled diatribe, defending her sending her newds to another man as a test, to show the ex-wife that she could usurp yet another role from her. He mentions the probability that he stayed in the relationship to punish himself.
Maybe he'll stop beating himself up for his lousy judgement in cheating on his first wife, since he's probably been punished enough, & try to move on & have a decent life with no more cheating or cheaters for the sake of his kids.
Story 2 finally has closure: OP wanted to get a restraining order, but was told because they two were no in a romantic relationship it was unlikely for whatever reason and he was advised to drop it, he didn't though and kept going through with it. Also, out of fear of her attacking him again, he agreed to push back rent payment until July 11th, only for her not to pay again and say she applied for assistance, even though it could take months to be approved IF she was even approved (turns out the reason she was fired is she refused to get the Covid shot and I guess her work put an end from WFH). Finally OP had enough and went through with the courts to get rent and have her evicted, and roommate freaked out but did not attack OP again, although she was screaming and telling him he should pay for her to live there and its his fault. OP just told her he was changing units August 1st and she had to leave, she wanted to take over the lease, but OP refused since she didn't have a job she couldn't be put on the lease (plus, he actually wasn't leaving, he just wanted her gone). She was super shitty to OP but started packing and on July 31st finally moved her stuff out, and OP now no longer lives with Karen. However a little final thing is OP posted on legal advice, Karen is demanding her full security deposit back, and OP wants to know if he can deduct the legal fees for having to take her to court from what he gives her. (he is being told probably not, because after Karen was served she did pay rent so they never went to court, but OP was still out whatever he had to pay for processing)
Story 2: This is abusive behavior to a T. The arbitrary rules in the beginning were to control op. Then, during the confrontation she became violent, attempted to make op feel small and controllable, and then forced op to adopt her warped world view. Then, she immediately followed it up with love-bombing tactics to try to cement her control over op. Tbh, its a good thing that op had already started the eviction process, it will only help with the restraining order.
Could easily be argued as “sexual harassment & stalking” since the male Roomate is the one wanting to have them installed. Solid concrete proof is always the go-to but when the human factor comes into play it’ll always be 50/50 especially when it’s a male vs. female in the courtroom. You get biased judges (misogynistic judges/prosecutors/officers/etc. who think all women are wrong or misandrist judges/prosecutors/officers/etc. who believe that men are the aggressors and that women “wouldn’t lie about such a horrible thing”)
OP should start recording all interactions with roommate after the cop incident. It's clear she has no intention of being respectable. Things will never be the same from now on.
Story 3: the full saying is “the customer is always right IN MATTERS OF PERSONAL PREFERENCE.” You’re free to like or dislike whatever you want, but of course, entitled people’s brains stop working half way through since that’s the only part that would benefit them. OP, you handled the situation excellently. The only thing you should have done differently was to tell Karen, “You are no longer welcome here.”
Story 2: Roommate Karen: I'm not the problem. OP is the abusive one. Also Roommate Karen: (Says literally the most cliche abuser line in the universe after hitting him.)
Story 2 is very reminiscent of a roommate I had for a couple months that ended very badly. I lived in a house with a couple guys and, in a desire to be helpful, we let a homeless guy we knew move in with us. He'd always been nice and pretty quiet, never one for causing trouble that we'd known. Well, once he had some sense of stability, suddenly his behavior became violent and unpredictable. We suspected but couldn't prove that he'd gotten (back) on meth. I wound up getting a lawyer involved to evict him, after he began damaging property and threatening us.
Sounds like mental health needs to be taken seriously, and pursuing help for mental health problems should be free. Drugs need to be legalized, taxed, and regulated, so people who ARE addicted can get help to recover from their addiction without fear of being locked up.
@ambriasaunders1869 That won't work in the U.S at least. We have too many morel supremacists crying over anything that doesn't conform to their personal biases.
I can't tell if the wife in the 1st story is just a gold digger or has some sort of bitter rivalry with the ex-wife... maybe both. In any case, her flirting with the ex's fiancé is a red flag that can't be ignored. Sounds like OP is getting dumped the moment the wife finds a richer man that's available... and honestly, he deserves it.
It kinda shows intention of the affair partner - to feel picked and the better woman. This is consistent with her talking shit about the ex wife. Why anyone would want to be with such a troll is beyond me.
13:15 not a psychopath, a narcissist. "You can't talk about me, but I can talk about you, because I am special and better than you" (grandiose sense of Self, one of the 9 diagnostic criteria for NPD in the DSM5), "I can do whatever I want and get away with it" (entitlement, other criteria)
Story 1. Sure she told you she loves you... until someone "better" comes along, just like he loved his first wife...until someone "better" came along. Karma.
In the 1st story, sounds like the new wife is competing with the previous wife. OP might want to find out if the women knew each other way back when. To me, it sounds like the new wife thought he was a prize to win, and she won the game by stealing him. Now she's jealous that the ex-wife "won" a rich new husband.
Agreed. I think that is exactly it...because she was oh so happy until the ex-wife got someone else..... plus with how quick their affair started it wouldn't surprise me if she sought out OP prior to working with him with the intent to steal him.
So messed up for the ex-wife when she was happily minding her own business and some nut comes along trying to steal her man twice. Once isn't good enough for you??
The ex-wife probably didn't even know the current home-wrecker, there are people who are so narcissistic that they think they are the main character of other people's stories.
@@AzulakayesYup, some women will come after your man and they don’t even really want him. They want to prove to themselves that they can get him and are therefore “better” than you.
Story 2: I have a suspicion this roommate was high on narcotics or something, cause while there is no obvious smell in the apartment, the fact the roommate's unhinged behavior escalated right as she stopped paying rent, I have a hunch the money is going into her drug habit. Most sociopaths can keep a lid on their behavior, knowing the consequences, but the fact that she physically attacked OP AFTER she got that little "talk" with the police for making a false report, yeah, I am willing to bet she is high. Intoxication erases any semblance of reasoning, which also includes consequences, hence why the roommate did not hold back with a physical attack: she was too high off whatever she was on to care any more. I am really praying for OP's safety, and hope things get better eventually.
I deal with someone like that, and it's not drugs. Unless lots, and I mean LOTS of sweets and public image count as a drug. They have this ultra fake personality and are terrified of the idea that people that know their true self could tell their "friends", that's why she escalated the argument when OP said he talked to his friends about her. They're also super entitled and think they can avoid responsability by throwing a tantrum. Yes, let us pray for OP. People like that roommate live in another reality and have many enablers.
Second story, roommate's a hoarder. That's how it starts, with a bunch of stuff that you can't touch because [excuse]. I've learned that hoarding doesn't just mean "keeping stuff", it might be obvious to others, but it also means "hoarding the empty space". ...Ah-ha, the blood pressure drama. Heard it all before. OOoooh plus the demand to not talk about her!! She's angry because she can't fake her personality with OP. People think energy vampires don't exist, but here's an example right there. She felt better knowing that OP was freaking out, that 3-hour conversation late at night was intentional.
She is just a really bad and crappy person. Not a emotional vampire or whatever, she probably suffers from autism or another kind of schizophrenia which is why she belongs to the jail or asylum.
Story 3: Normally, Karens would be demanding an extra coupon off of an item or something, but this is unusual. Like, what was Karen trying to do, try to see how much money she can save? Look for an excuse to file a complaint? Scam an extra discount? This is so weird
@Nevertoleave I can confirm this. My ex mil use to brag about getting a huge discount by threatening to leave without buying anything saying it never fails at small businesses.
@@RunnyBabbitMom … ignoring all the times it did not work, because the owner would lose more money on the sale than on her walking out, or was not going to give in for a few cents.
Story 1: Erm so this woman is upset because he married her after his "divorce was a fact"?! Pretty sure it's illegal to marry someone else when your divorce isn't a fact yet. The warning is always that if your man cheats on his wife and leaves her for you, he'll probably also cheat on you and leave you for another woman, but I guess it works the other way too: if your woman went after you knowing you were married to someone else, chances are she doesn't have much respect for marriage vows. Sounds like these two deserve eachother.
Story 3: I once grabbed a pair of jeans that I thought were on sale and when they rang up normal price, I politely pointed out that the sale sign was up. A guy behind the counter saw it and basically told her to honor it because the sign hadn’t been taken down when it was supposed to. If they hadn’t done that, I would’ve probably just put them back, not freak out
@@LunaP1 in my experience they just don't give a damn, I had to call the cops for domestic violence weekly on my neighbors cause he was beating her constantly and throwing beer bottles at people walking by his trailer. half the time they either didn't show up for just didn't do anything. I sent his parole officer all the videos from my security cameras of him beating the hell out of her, that finally got something done.
Story 3: As someone that’s worked in retail and fast food, I have learned that “The customer is always right” saying isn’t words to live by, it’s a warning. Customers fully believe that they’re in the right no matter what is said or done.
OP, you should’ve gotten police involved the moment she hit you and you need to file a restraining order and press charges against her for the assault.
Story 3: (I have worked in retail for over 8.5 Years way longer than I ever wanted) I would have (and have done before) Called security and had her thrown out and banned from the shop for life! Edit: Also; that crap saying: "The customer is always right". Is a load of B; if they were they wouldn't refund so much stuff!
My father ran a garage for 35 years.1 day a customer was screaming that the customer is always right! He looked even dead in the eye and told him yeah as long as he agrees with me.
Story 2: That woman is mentally sick in the head as anyone who hoards everything and get easily goes ballistic from the smallest things is a sign of sociopath behavior. OP need to get help sooner and call 911 for a patted cell. Edit: still confused about mental sickness can you give me any idea what wrong with the roommate as her hoarding behavior is a sign of mental illness?
Jesus Christ, please don’t misuse the term sociopath because that’s not what it’s about and that’s not in fact a sign. You also shouldn’t go around calling people that because of how the world is used in internet society.
I agree with LordDomielofElysium. You actually make it easier for the actual sociopaths to hide or brush off what they have done and pretend it is normal, by mislabelling people who aren't.
Fits the description of Narcissist better than sociopath. Quote from Psychology Today "the main distinction is that sociopaths are more cunning & manipulative because their ego isn't always at stake. In fact they don't have any real personality. They're the ultimate con artists and can take on any persona that suits them. Instead of bragging, their conversation might center on you, and they can even be self-effacing and apologetic if it serves their goal. ........ Narcissists are more interested in what you [and others] think of them. They need others' admiration."
#2 just makes no sense. Being attacked and punched by someone is not time to play meek. You fight back. They punch you, you break their face. They slap, you blacken both eyes. They pull put a knife, you shoot them. Where are these victims coming from? Where did their parents go so horribly wrong that they won't fight back?
These days, people stand up to bullies and they get punished while bully usually gets a pass. It's some kind of mind manipulation. No mention which state or city this took place in because it's possible the laws are so skewed against the victim, they were scared to take action. I agree, once that punch was thrown, it would have been time to take the gloves off and rip that nut in two.
1: A lot of people are taught point blank that violence is wrong. Victims of bullies in school are often punished for defending themselves. Not everyone knows self defense is an option, or they do know that if they defend themselves THEY'LL be the one punished 2: OP mentioned being afraid of their roommate having a gun. If you suspect/fear that someone has the means and will to use deadly force against you, and you don't have the ability to use deadly force in response, you submit to stay alive. "they pull a knife, you shoot them" requires YOU having a gun 3: Not everyone has the physical capabilities/strength to fight back even if it's just hand to hand. If your opponent is stronger or more skilled in fighting than you, fighting back is asking to get hurt worse or killed. De-escalation is a survival strategy.
#1 OP didn't make his wife unhappy, insecure nor miserable. She did that to herself. #2 So, OP is the main tenant or even the owner. Karen is a roommate renting half of the place to OP. Karen act as if SHE own the place. Karen neglect to pay her rent... More that time to kick her out of the place and OP's life. A promise obtained under threat is NOT binding. Karen threatened OP to force him to agree about not telling things bad about her. So, the «promise» have no value. #3 OP didn't loose a customer that day. If Karen is true to her word, OP just loss a Pain In The All.
Story 1 - Sounds like current wife knew the ex-wife prior to sleeping with the guy. Current wife wants what the ex-wife has and will do anything to get it.
Or not. Maybe that woman is just a narcissist who thinks she is better than the ex. I know people with that toxic mindset who think they 'won' after screwing someone over, doesn't matter who. When the person they thought they 'defeated' eventually revamps their lives or does better, the 'winner' gets depressed because...the universe doesnt revolve around them. I think this is the driving force for people who don't want the ex they dumped to move on, or don't want the person they fired to get a better-well paying job, or the person they bullied become successful. It is toxic competition, entitlement and narcissism, it doesn't need a backstory, the person they hurt doesn't need to have done anything and they can do it to a random person they meet anywhere. Think about how a random Karen slaps a random customer because they said they don't work in that random store.
Story 1: Message for OP, if you date/marry a woman who had no problem with getting in-between your 1st marriage, you'll lose her the same way you got her. She's gonna go after another taken man. Cheaters rarely ever change their ways.
Story #1: OP, your current wife slept with a married man to be with you. That was the first mistake, the second was thinking she would be forever loyal to you the cheater. Now you wonder why she has been insecure in your marriage, you're a PROVEN Cheater and she is a PROVEN home wrecker. I wonder what went wrong???😂😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉
well i mean SHE didnt have any obligation to protect OP's mariage or its sanctity, i mean for all we know OP didnt even tell her he was married before the hook up, dont get me wrong she sucks for her behavior after the marriage but i cant really blame her to much for what happened before then, honestly to me it seems people care more about homewreckers then cheaters and i just dont get that, like if my partner cheated on me with one of my 'friends' thats a different story but a complete stranger? why would i care about him? he doesnt know me, he doesnt owe my anything, yeah he sucks if he knew he helped someone cheat but i wont get angry at him
Unfortunately, home wreckers and cheaters can be forever loyal to each other (my step-mum & dad are sadly proof) but karma finds a better way to bite loyal ones on the bum. It's great!
@@vhaelen326Wow...this amoral perspective is really astounding. From that woman's actions, do you seriously believe she didn't know OP was married? Really?
@@Azulakayes which actions do you mean? the hook up? that doesnt require any knowledge of op maritals status, in fact studies have found that its easier to find a hook up if you dont tell them youre married. so we CANT know if op was like "hey, im married, also you wanna hook up?" or if he was "hey, how doin, you wanna hook up?" her ACTIONS dont tell us anything about that, the only action we have in that regard is that she hooked up with op with speaks more for the fact that she didnt know, all the actions we CAN judge her on like her behavior of badmouthing his ex wife to the kids, sending nudes etc was way into their marriage in other words way into her knowing op was married but we have nothing to go of to know wether or not she knew BEFORE the HOOKUP or AFTER, and even IF she knew before the hook up we dont know what went on, they couldve both been just short of black out drunk or totaly sober, even IF she didnt know and even IF both were entirely sober i would still place 80% of the blame on OP as the cheater because as i said she doesnt have any obligation towards op's marriage, dont get me wrong im not saying sleeping with someone you know is taken/married whatever is a GOOD or even NEUTRAL thing to do, its still a crappy thing to do but not even remotely as crappy as cheating
Story 3: The metaphorical balls on that EWW. I worked in retail for 5 years and I've always hated the phrase "The Customer is always right" and during when I was in retail in North Carolina, there was an old alcohol law where you couldn't buy alcohol until 12:00 pm. I swear the amount of times I had people coming into my register from 11:50 to 11:55 with alcohol wanting to buy it and what not...if they acted like some of these people man the stories that would fill. But you know what? They were reasonable people and understood that there was nothing I could do until then. So the moral of the story: Some people just suck.
Story 3 - The OP shouldn't apologise, that customer was given the same respect she was dishing out, and, quite frankly, stores shouldn't cater to customers being cheap and trying to find discounts where none exist.
Straight up, 1st story, OP traded down. 2nd story, OP, you should have ejected her from your life the minute she piled her shit in the living room and forbade you from touching anything. Welcome to your first narcissist. 3rd story, should have voided the transaction when she left the line.
Story 1: OP, you are a dirtbag for cheating on your former wife, who appears to be a loving and caring person. Appearances are only superficial and likely to fade with time. Your current wife obviously doesn't care that she cheated with a married man and now wants to cheat on you to win someone with more money. Sound familiar? It should. I hope your ex and her fiancé can get a restraining order against your wife and you if necessary. Good grief! Roommate story: OP, get that restraining order ASAP! You may want to have company the police present when it's served for your own safety. Some company at the very least, hopefully with a recording of what happens. Good luck!!! Keep us posted please. Even after she's forced to move, you may want to change where you live to keep her from coming back at you. The restraining order only gives you legal recourse if she violates it, it doesn't stop her from harming you if she does. You don't want her knowing where you live. Discount pricing story: OP, I think what you said to that choosing beggar of a Karen was the EXACT RIGHT thing to say, as long as you weren't rude or snide about it and otherwise remained professional. That's how people like that need to be treated. If your bosses don't have your back on that, time to find a new job.
I agree about getting a restraining order on OP's wife but I'm a bit confused as to why you think she needs one against OP? There would be a good harassment case for the wife but OP for what, existing?
@@kaitlinm4896 She may not, it depends on how much OP is losing it and possibly supporting his wife against his ex or if he just goes off against his ex.
Unhinged Roommate Story: In addition to being Psychotic, the Sudden Mood Swings make me think OP's Insane Roommate might also be a little Bi-Polar... Either way, OP needs both a Camera in their room recording sight and sound 24/7 AND that Restraining Order and they need it YESTERDAY!!!
Story 2: I'd also file a complaint against the officers. When was OP supposed to call? In the middle of being attacked? Would they rather be investigating a murder?
Story 1....if she was just wanting a guy with more money, there would have been other triggers....i think she's got some fixation on the ex-wife..... cuz the ex getting someone was the trigger. Wonder if this current wife, sought out OP prior to working with him. 🤔
Story 2: OP said she wishes she had recorded her roommate. Great idea, because I guarantee she will have another chance when she is triggered again. She needs to keep something on her at all times and turn it on right away once she recognizes the signs. And if she can get such a recording posted to social media, even better!
Remember folks, "The Customer is always right" is only HALF of the saying, the Full saying is "The Customer is always right, IN Matters of Taste" Meaning what they think looks or tastes good is correct, not that their opinion is always correct
20:29 The customer is always right ABOUT TASTE. That is the saying. The business cannot force the customer to buy what the business wants them to. Either that, or reply with “just yesterday, a customer told me that I’m too nice, and I should get physical if somebody tries to force their way with me. Is that customer always right?” Third option: ask the boss if “haggling tax” can be added to the register. Add 20% to the entire purchase.
A lot of stores do not like their workers talking back to customers, regardless of how mild what they say is. This is legit the same industry that has Karens trying to get people fired for not smiling enough.
Story 1: The second wife is a clear example of someone cheating on you if they will cheat with you. And her insecurity likely also comes from knowing op cheated with her. But she is also a gold digger. Who knows if she is only with op until someone with more money comes along.
Story 2. Woman or not, as soon as she throws the punch, she's a threat to me and a potential danger to life, I would've shoved her across the room with prejudice to clear my way, left the apartment and called the police instantly. On top of that, you've got the previous interaction with the police to back you up, and any injuries she sustains from being shoved are justified as self defence/preservation.
If someone hurts me, a person in need or an animal............ That equals to a full blown war. No mercy. They wanted to play a violent stupid game? Let's return the favour.
Story 2. Obsessive compulsive personality disorder and bipolar disorder most likely. Or possibly some other form of psychosis could be borderline could be narcissism don't know. But she definitely needs medication and specific therapies
Story 1 - Why is OP's current wife in such bitter competition with his ex? Whether she and OP stay together of not, she badly needs counseling. Story 2 - Is it bad that I find the most exciting thing about this story is that OP used the word "lie" correctly, in a sentence where far too many people would have said, "lay"? Well done, OP! 😀 Story 2 - "You made me hit you!" The oldest line in the abuser's handbook.
*story 2* the cop is DISGUSTING for shaming OP for waiting to long to call the police. There's a reason 911 operators are trained to recognize that someone trying to *order pizza* is probably in the room with a violent abuser. If you share a home with a violent person and they catch you reporting their assault to the police, there is an extremely high risk of them flying into a bigger rage and injuring you more fatally. Heck, sexual assault victims often don't report it until the next day because they're in too much shock to speak to the authorities or think straight. This cop SUCKED and was just trying to get of doing their job. Please wait until you are SAFE to notify the police when assaulted. If your assailant tries to end your life in retaliation, the police won't get there in time to save you.
Story 3: "The customer is always right" is a phrases that never fails to piss me of. Whether I'm hearing it from a customer, from management and even from stories like this. Because the customer never uses the phrase properly and seem to magically think that it's a 5 word cheat code. No karen. The customer is not always right. The only the the customer is right about is what they want/need to get. Not about fake discounts and not about product details (Unless you've worked in that field/with that product but we all know karens haven't worked in retail). Also, I love how customers always say "You just lost yourself a customer" like it's a bad thing. Most places are going to be fine without your attitude and fake personality. Even smaller business can tell of customers and probably be fine. Which is why I still confused as to why major corporations care about what the customer thinks
20:56 if OP would have just been a little smarter, she should have replied, “are you buying anything, anything at all?” (Of course the woman would have said, “no.”) At that point I would have said, “ma’am , if you’re NOT buying anything, then you’re NOT a customer! Have a good day!”
story 2 I hope OP gets that sociopath out of their damn apartment. I'd have locked her out said "nah she's not welcome I'm already in the process of filing for eviction, their inability to operate at a peaceful level means they're not welcome, they haven't paid rent and it's well past due so at this point her property will be removed, and if she wants anything else she can go to court.
Story one, please remember this phrase: “If they will do it for you, they will do it to you.” (Example, if they will cheat for you they will cheat on you.) Not 100%, there are rare exceptions, but it’s a good rule to follow.
Story 3: At that point I would consider banning her from the store honestly. 🤷 You don't get to pull that 💩 just because you want to for an extended period of time and expect to just get off scot-free. It's a business, not a charity, use your brain. 😮💨
Nahh, the eviction process has already started, so a restraining order should do just fine. With the restraining order, the roommate must find another place to live, because keeping a certain distance while being in the same home/appartment is impossible. And when the eviction order is final, staying out of the appartment so the Karen of the story can move her crap out is not a problem. After that most problems should be solved. On the last story. First of all good for OP to stick with the right prices. However, I will say that considering the last few years, specially with the war in the Ukraine, prices have been rising like heck, so the fact that someone wants to try and get prices reduced is not a huge surprise. However doing so must be done honestly and fairly imho.
2nd story: bruh, if someone didn't wanna pay rent they needed to leave and trust me, i dont care who you are if you strike me first all hell will break loose legally.
“Police! I’ve been kidnapped! I’ve been locked in this psycho’s basement for four days!” “Sorry, but you should’ve called us the moment he abducted you. Our hands are tied… just like yours!”
Any time a customer told me "the customer is always right" I would counter with the ACTUAL quote from Harry Selfridge: "The customer is always right in matters of taste", which means I have to praise anything you choose.
On the first story, op DROP her like a ton of bricks. She more interested in money than you, I'm sorry you have to find out that way, I would drop her.
Last story, I work in retail I know this feeling very well, we get many customers who misread signs and get pissed, eg there's a sign that says 20% on canvases, which is next to fake flowers, Worse Ive had was a customer who brought up about $200 to the register, decided only to buy $50 of the items and left the rest on the register which I had to put in a trolley to clean the register just so the register wasn't cluttered thanks to her, The whole "the customer is always right" quote is the most stupid quote of all time,
I've said this many time- 'the customer is always right" is a marketing term, not enforced policy. It was coined at a time when customers were given no option to deal with faulty goods and "buyer beware" was the order of the day, so a customer oriented sales policy was a novel concept. Even at the time, critics were quick to point out that, if taken literally, people would take full advantage so even then it was understood that there would be limits. If i owned a business, i would put up a sign in the customer service dept to this effect.
Story 1: The ex wife is getting what *she* deserves and OP & his mistress turned wife has gotten what *they* deserve. Story 2: Change the locks while she's gone and hold her possessions in lien. She'll get her stuff when you get your money. Story 3: "No, I'm sorry. The customer is *not* always right. Since we are at an impasse, I suggest you vacate the premises else I will have you removed."
Story 2: Oh I would have started throwing hands. That woman would have rue the day she thought she could lay hands on me and then act like nothing happened.
Story #1: If they’ll cheat with you, they’ll cheat on you. Personally, I feel that both the OP and the new wife deserve to be miserable together. I wish the ex-wife and her fiancé much happiness.
What is the BS all the time with "the customer is always right"? That's just crap. The customer is always right when it comes to taste. Customer wants pink unicorns on black wallpaper? Customer is right. Everything else? Nopenopenope. Customer is right about his taste. But that's IT.
I work at a semi expensive toy store in a downtown tourist trap kind of mall. People are amazed at the high proces then ask if we are going out of business in the same breath! Lol when they ask why it's so much I tell them well, Louis Vuitton and Ralph Laurent attract a lot of higher income tourists so it's going to be expensive here lol People also tend to either read our sales signs wrong or ignore them and just think everything is on sale
First of all, I love how the police said being cautious for calling 911 out of fear of retaliation isn't considered "protocol", but they're oh-so worried about retaliation 24 hours later. That tells me that they are lousy cops and didn't want to help in the first place. They were talking their way out of a situation so they could get back to breaktime. Second, no, Karen. The customer is NEVER right. I have learned that in my years of working retail. Anybody who thinks otherwise is just toxic.
"The customer is always right in matters of taste"- Meaning they are right with what they like, nothing more or less Funny how that last bit always gets let off the phrase.
@JamesDavy2009 yep, blood is thicker than water is another one. It's actually "The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb". So, the relationships U choose can be stronger than the family you're born into.
Story 2: "Oh, it's been 2 hours. You can't have her arrested, and even if you did, she'd be out in 24 hours. " Clearly abuse victims have no rights. 🤬
Yeah I can't understand that at all. Do the cops seriously expect someone who was just assaulted to call right in front of the person who just showed they will not be averse to violence to get their way?
@@fluidwolfif the roles were reversed,or she had falsely accused him of hitting her. See how fast the cops act. Dudes, tackled to the ground, guns drawn while the damsel in distress is whisked away to safety.
@@bucknekid9608 I agree, the dichotomy of that is so fucking stupid
ikr? My friend told me that her ex's father used to beat her mom. Then, once she called the cops on him, they did beat him up and took him to jail, for a day, so when he was free he came back and beat his wife again because of what the cops "did to him because of her" 😑 they should take this things more seriously
Well, what do you want the law to say?
Please write that down and run it through cases like:
man assaults woman
man assaults man
woman assaults woman
woman assaults man
and each with the assault “true” and “made up”.
If you come up with something that works, tell us, and we can then add in children, provocations, disabilities etc.
A Temporary Restraining Order is the way to keep yourself safe for now, report the attack, pursue it later on.
Story 2: “It’s your fault for getting punch!”
“Repeat after me. ‘I will never say anything about Remus again!’”
What the actual fuck???? This woman needs to be in a psych ward!
Fr i would had defended myself unlike the original poster
@@og_3rd_st_saint_gat Yeah, that’s when you knock a bitch’s teeth down her throat.
Living alone is the best way to live. Remy is nuttier than squirrel shit, where in the hell did you find her insane ass?
@@raarasunai4896I agree
I thought she was a Germaphobe.
Story 1: OP and current wife deserve each other. He cheated, and he got a cheater. His ex, who is unselfish enough to encourage the children to love their father in spite of new wife's nastiness, gets a guy who not only loves her, but is wealthy. Sounds like karma to me!
I agree! Karma at it’s finest. Op and his current wife were made for eachother. Op got what he deserved!
Sweet, wonderful karma!
You get what you give! OP has no one but himself to blame, & his nasty current wife has no one but herself to blame, but just watch them tear into each other!
Yup, this one sparks joy
....bruh stop hating on op so much dam help a guy out he and his ex wife made up enough that they can talk about this and your put here saying deserved deserved....like dam
Story 2: "Well, that's a shame that you didn't call the police while the armed gunman was burgling your home and robbing you at gun point. Since you called an hour after your home got broken into, and not while the thief was there, there's nothing we can do about it."
The power of putting a different context into a situation.
#2 - Shame on the officers for trying to berate OP for calling after the fight. How the hell is a VICTIM supposed to call in the middle of things when the aggressor is still present and still a danger to them? Do not agree with their response at all, but that is often set by the brass and needs to be addressed! This from someone who dispatched for many years and knows what kind of BS that was.
Yeah, "wrong protocol" my ass, how am I supposed to know the right protocol? People are not trained for this
You know that if he would’ve tried to defend himself… He would be the one that was arrested right there and then
WHY did OP go back to the apartment after the fight??? Get the cops to accompany you while you pack your stuff and GET OUT.
How about the victim was constrained to stay until the Karen left her? Isn't that unlawful confinement? What were the police thinking? I would love to know the town and state this took place.
If this had been a male roommate that'd hit a female roommate y'all know he would've been forcibly removed right then and there. But it was the other way around and They bitch at Him for not following Their protocol?!? WTF is wrong with this world? 😡
Story 2 now has an update:
"Update: I went to the local court. They told me it would be hard to get a protection order on a roommate who isn't/wasn't in a relationship with me and kick her out. I'll still do it anyways because I dont have other options. FML"
Jeez, the civil servants where OP lives are useless. If a person you are living with has become physically abusive, it shouldn't matter whether or not the two of you are dating or related.
@@meh2510 Unfortunately when a woman is the aggressor and the man the victim, it can be very, very, very hard for men to be taken seriously.
Wow.
Story 1: Divorce her. Clearly she doesn’t want to be with OP anymore. She’ll keep this up until OP divorces her and cuts all contact with her.
Yeah, she's just a gold digger who's jealous AF.
There's an update to the story, OP did divorce their (now 2nd ex)-wife.
Exactly
@@chanku18 heck yeah!!!! She deserved that!!
Or until she finds someone with more money
The FULL line is "The customer is always right in matters of taste," meaning that it doesn't matter how ugly or gaudy you think something is, if the customer thinks it looks good and wants to buy it, you sell it.
That's the actual original meaning and use. But for a LONG time it's just been "the customer is always right (about everything even when they're not)". Try to convince them they're wrong. Good luck with that.
I wouldn’t have argued; once she scampered away from the register, I’d have called a manager and let them deal with her.
Also that was SEARS.
Fully burned charcoal (formerly a steak)
There's another way that's been stated, as I had worked with the public. The other way it's been stated id the the customer is almost always right.
Which in that case as another customer, I'd likely suddenly develop a strong dose of patience, and wait in the line with the full intent of calling them down and out. I'd also close with a favorite line I picked up many years ago which is, take an aerodynamically inclined procreational thrust at a laterally rotating toroidal pastry.
Fortunately I'd never had to deal with such individuals when I was still working, nor been behind someone trying the pull that type of male bovine droppings.
Update on Story 1: They are getting a divorce. The new wife went into a tear filled diatribe, defending her sending her newds to another man as a test, to show the ex-wife that she could usurp yet another role from her. He mentions the probability that he stayed in the relationship to punish himself.
Maybe he'll stop beating himself up for his lousy judgement in cheating on his first wife, since he's probably been punished enough, & try to move on & have a decent life with no more cheating or cheaters for the sake of his kids.
@@starrywizdommy thoughts exactly. It sounds like his cheating was a mistake, not a lifestyle.
I hope he finds happiness.
Story 2 finally has closure: OP wanted to get a restraining order, but was told because they two were no in a romantic relationship it was unlikely for whatever reason and he was advised to drop it, he didn't though and kept going through with it. Also, out of fear of her attacking him again, he agreed to push back rent payment until July 11th, only for her not to pay again and say she applied for assistance, even though it could take months to be approved IF she was even approved (turns out the reason she was fired is she refused to get the Covid shot and I guess her work put an end from WFH). Finally OP had enough and went through with the courts to get rent and have her evicted, and roommate freaked out but did not attack OP again, although she was screaming and telling him he should pay for her to live there and its his fault. OP just told her he was changing units August 1st and she had to leave, she wanted to take over the lease, but OP refused since she didn't have a job she couldn't be put on the lease (plus, he actually wasn't leaving, he just wanted her gone). She was super shitty to OP but started packing and on July 31st finally moved her stuff out, and OP now no longer lives with Karen.
However a little final thing is OP posted on legal advice, Karen is demanding her full security deposit back, and OP wants to know if he can deduct the legal fees for having to take her to court from what he gives her. (he is being told probably not, because after Karen was served she did pay rent so they never went to court, but OP was still out whatever he had to pay for processing)
Story 2: This is abusive behavior to a T. The arbitrary rules in the beginning were to control op. Then, during the confrontation she became violent, attempted to make op feel small and controllable, and then forced op to adopt her warped world view. Then, she immediately followed it up with love-bombing tactics to try to cement her control over op. Tbh, its a good thing that op had already started the eviction process, it will only help with the restraining order.
On the second story, Get security cameras
Excellent suggestion! If that punch had been caught on video, it wouldn't matter that OP put off calling the police!
Could easily be argued as “sexual harassment & stalking” since the male Roomate is the one wanting to have them installed.
Solid concrete proof is always the go-to but when the human factor comes into play it’ll always be 50/50 especially when it’s a male vs. female in the courtroom. You get biased judges (misogynistic judges/prosecutors/officers/etc. who think all women are wrong or misandrist judges/prosecutors/officers/etc. who believe that men are the aggressors and that women “wouldn’t lie about such a horrible thing”)
OP should start recording all interactions with roommate after the cop incident. It's clear she has no intention of being respectable. Things will never be the same from now on.
Story 3: the full saying is “the customer is always right IN MATTERS OF PERSONAL PREFERENCE.” You’re free to like or dislike whatever you want, but of course, entitled people’s brains stop working half way through since that’s the only part that would benefit them.
OP, you handled the situation excellently. The only thing you should have done differently was to tell Karen, “You are no longer welcome here.”
I like one I saw on a shop sign once:
Customer is king!
King never haggles!
I had heard the original quote it was "In their own mind, the customer is always right".
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Story 2:
Roommate Karen: I'm not the problem. OP is the abusive one.
Also Roommate Karen: (Says literally the most cliche abuser line in the universe after hitting him.)
Story 1 is the definition of "Well, I didn't think the leopards would eat MY face!"
Karen: "You just lost a customer today!"
What anyone on earth would want to say: "I care why?"
I would have said, "I should have lost a customer 20 minutes ago, but you wasted both our times."
My first inclination would be to say, "GOOD! I hope you never come back to our store again!"
Please tell me that’s a promise?
"Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand, why should I care?" -Unicorse
Story 2 is very reminiscent of a roommate I had for a couple months that ended very badly. I lived in a house with a couple guys and, in a desire to be helpful, we let a homeless guy we knew move in with us. He'd always been nice and pretty quiet, never one for causing trouble that we'd known. Well, once he had some sense of stability, suddenly his behavior became violent and unpredictable. We suspected but couldn't prove that he'd gotten (back) on meth. I wound up getting a lawyer involved to evict him, after he began damaging property and threatening us.
In the UK, a while back, a family took in a homeless person and 6 months later the homeless dude murdered the whole family (parents and kids).
Sounds like mental health needs to be taken seriously, and pursuing help for mental health problems should be free. Drugs need to be legalized, taxed, and regulated, so people who ARE addicted can get help to recover from their addiction without fear of being locked up.
@ambriasaunders1869 That won't work in the U.S at least. We have too many morel supremacists crying over anything that doesn't conform to their personal biases.
I can't tell if the wife in the 1st story is just a gold digger or has some sort of bitter rivalry with the ex-wife... maybe both. In any case, her flirting with the ex's fiancé is a red flag that can't be ignored.
Sounds like OP is getting dumped the moment the wife finds a richer man that's available... and honestly, he deserves it.
Not just any richer man.....just the ex-wife's men.
Both, I suspect.
Yup. Dude was a cheater who married a cheater. Not sure how he expected that relationship to last....
Yeah she's a gold digger and clearly rabid. I recommend fire.
It kinda shows intention of the affair partner - to feel picked and the better woman. This is consistent with her talking shit about the ex wife. Why anyone would want to be with such a troll is beyond me.
13:15 not a psychopath, a narcissist. "You can't talk about me, but I can talk about you, because I am special and better than you" (grandiose sense of Self, one of the 9 diagnostic criteria for NPD in the DSM5), "I can do whatever I want and get away with it" (entitlement, other criteria)
Story 1. Sure she told you she loves you... until someone "better" comes along, just like he loved his first wife...until someone "better" came along. Karma.
In the 1st story, sounds like the new wife is competing with the previous wife. OP might want to find out if the women knew each other way back when. To me, it sounds like the new wife thought he was a prize to win, and she won the game by stealing him. Now she's jealous that the ex-wife "won" a rich new husband.
Agreed. I think that is exactly it...because she was oh so happy until the ex-wife got someone else..... plus with how quick their affair started it wouldn't surprise me if she sought out OP prior to working with him with the intent to steal him.
Just agreeing with the both of you 🤣
Sweet sweet karmic retribution!
So messed up for the ex-wife when she was happily minding her own business and some nut comes along trying to steal her man twice. Once isn't good enough for you??
The ex-wife probably didn't even know the current home-wrecker, there are people who are so narcissistic that they think they are the main character of other people's stories.
@@AzulakayesYup, some women will come after your man and they don’t even really want him. They want to prove to themselves that they can get him and are therefore “better” than you.
Story 2: I have a suspicion this roommate was high on narcotics or something, cause while there is no obvious smell in the apartment, the fact the roommate's unhinged behavior escalated right as she stopped paying rent, I have a hunch the money is going into her drug habit. Most sociopaths can keep a lid on their behavior, knowing the consequences, but the fact that she physically attacked OP AFTER she got that little "talk" with the police for making a false report, yeah, I am willing to bet she is high. Intoxication erases any semblance of reasoning, which also includes consequences, hence why the roommate did not hold back with a physical attack: she was too high off whatever she was on to care any more. I am really praying for OP's safety, and hope things get better eventually.
I deal with someone like that, and it's not drugs. Unless lots, and I mean LOTS of sweets and public image count as a drug. They have this ultra fake personality and are terrified of the idea that people that know their true self could tell their "friends", that's why she escalated the argument when OP said he talked to his friends about her. They're also super entitled and think they can avoid responsability by throwing a tantrum.
Yes, let us pray for OP. People like that roommate live in another reality and have many enablers.
Second story, roommate's a hoarder. That's how it starts, with a bunch of stuff that you can't touch because [excuse]. I've learned that hoarding doesn't just mean "keeping stuff", it might be obvious to others, but it also means "hoarding the empty space".
...Ah-ha, the blood pressure drama. Heard it all before.
OOoooh plus the demand to not talk about her!! She's angry because she can't fake her personality with OP.
People think energy vampires don't exist, but here's an example right there. She felt better knowing that OP was freaking out, that 3-hour conversation late at night was intentional.
She is just a really bad and crappy person. Not a emotional vampire or whatever, she probably suffers from autism or another kind of schizophrenia which is why she belongs to the jail or asylum.
i'd love for a retail employee to reply to someone saying "the customer is always right" with "in matters of taste only!"
Story 2: "Me personally, I wouldn't take this level of disrespect."
Story 3: Normally, Karens would be demanding an extra coupon off of an item or something, but this is unusual. Like, what was Karen trying to do, try to see how much money she can save? Look for an excuse to file a complaint? Scam an extra discount? This is so weird
I know exactly what she was thinking. “If I threaten to leave without buying anything the cashier will give me a discount so I’ll buy this stuff.”
@Nevertoleave I can confirm this. My ex mil use to brag about getting a huge discount by threatening to leave without buying anything saying it never fails at small businesses.
@@RunnyBabbitMom … ignoring all the times it did not work, because the owner would lose more money on the sale than on her walking out, or was not going to give in for a few cents.
@@advorak8529 I didn't say karens make sense.
@@RunnyBabbitMom Karens also tend to be … stingy with the truth, especially when bragging or threatening … “I know the owner”…
Story 1…they deserve each other and I’m glad they are miserable 😂
He divorced her so just her
@@kariusblood-drinker9862Atta boy.
You needed to have your phone on camera mode whenever you interact with a roommate that insane.
Or a hidden camera in the common spaces.
Story 1: Erm so this woman is upset because he married her after his "divorce was a fact"?! Pretty sure it's illegal to marry someone else when your divorce isn't a fact yet. The warning is always that if your man cheats on his wife and leaves her for you, he'll probably also cheat on you and leave you for another woman, but I guess it works the other way too: if your woman went after you knowing you were married to someone else, chances are she doesn't have much respect for marriage vows. Sounds like these two deserve eachother.
Story 1: Ah ha ha ha ha! That's KARMA! Cheaters getting cheated on. You love to see it.
Story 3: I once grabbed a pair of jeans that I thought were on sale and when they rang up normal price, I politely pointed out that the sale sign was up. A guy behind the counter saw it and basically told her to honor it because the sign hadn’t been taken down when it was supposed to. If they hadn’t done that, I would’ve probably just put them back, not freak out
1st story: I constantly feel like I’m missing something here 😭
2nd story: thank god the police always do their job..
am I right? 😁 /s
OP's current wife is being a jealous cunt towards his ex wife and is a gold digger for trying to get the ex's husband.
These cops obviously don't know how domestic violence work.
@@LunaP1 in my experience they just don't give a damn, I had to call the cops for domestic violence weekly on my neighbors cause he was beating her constantly and throwing beer bottles at people walking by his trailer. half the time they either didn't show up for just didn't do anything. I sent his parole officer all the videos from my security cameras of him beating the hell out of her, that finally got something done.
Story 3: As someone that’s worked in retail and fast food, I have learned that “The customer is always right” saying isn’t words to live by, it’s a warning. Customers fully believe that they’re in the right no matter what is said or done.
"…in matters of taste." The saying is supposed to be a type of caveat venditor-the seller should not question why the buyer wants something.
OP, you should’ve gotten police involved the moment she hit you and you need to file a restraining order and press charges against her for the assault.
Story 3: (I have worked in retail for over 8.5 Years way longer than I ever wanted) I would have (and have done before) Called security and had her thrown out and banned from the shop for life!
Edit: Also; that crap saying: "The customer is always right". Is a load of B; if they were they wouldn't refund so much stuff!
On the second story, op, Evict her, your house your RULES. Good luck.
First story:
For some reason, I'm not feeling sorry for the op.🤔
If i was a guy i won't get within 60 feet of that woman who know's how many married or engaged men she cheated with
My father ran a garage for 35 years.1 day a customer was screaming that the customer is always right! He looked even dead in the eye and told him yeah as long as he agrees with me.
Story 2: That woman is mentally sick in the head as anyone who hoards everything and get easily goes ballistic from the smallest things is a sign of sociopath behavior. OP need to get help sooner and call 911 for a patted cell.
Edit: still confused about mental sickness can you give me any idea what wrong with the roommate as her hoarding behavior is a sign of mental illness?
Jesus Christ, please don’t misuse the term sociopath because that’s not what it’s about and that’s not in fact a sign. You also shouldn’t go around calling people that because of how the world is used in internet society.
I agree with LordDomielofElysium. You actually make it easier for the actual sociopaths to hide or brush off what they have done and pretend it is normal, by mislabelling people who aren't.
I agree the orignal poster should had used self defense
I believe hoarding is a symptom of OCD, which would also explain the germophobia. But from the story, it seems she has additional issues too...
Fits the description of Narcissist better than sociopath.
Quote from Psychology Today "the main distinction is that sociopaths are more cunning & manipulative because their ego isn't always at stake. In fact they don't have any real personality. They're the ultimate con artists and can take on any persona that suits them. Instead of bragging, their conversation might center on you, and they can even be self-effacing and apologetic if it serves their goal. ........ Narcissists are more interested in what you [and others] think of them. They need others' admiration."
#2 just makes no sense. Being attacked and punched by someone is not time to play meek. You fight back. They punch you, you break their face. They slap, you blacken both eyes. They pull put a knife, you shoot them. Where are these victims coming from? Where did their parents go so horribly wrong that they won't fight back?
These days, people stand up to bullies and they get punished while bully usually gets a pass. It's some kind of mind manipulation. No mention which state or city this took place in because it's possible the laws are so skewed against the victim, they were scared to take action. I agree, once that punch was thrown, it would have been time to take the gloves off and rip that nut in two.
1: A lot of people are taught point blank that violence is wrong. Victims of bullies in school are often punished for defending themselves. Not everyone knows self defense is an option, or they do know that if they defend themselves THEY'LL be the one punished
2: OP mentioned being afraid of their roommate having a gun. If you suspect/fear that someone has the means and will to use deadly force against you, and you don't have the ability to use deadly force in response, you submit to stay alive. "they pull a knife, you shoot them" requires YOU having a gun
3: Not everyone has the physical capabilities/strength to fight back even if it's just hand to hand. If your opponent is stronger or more skilled in fighting than you, fighting back is asking to get hurt worse or killed.
De-escalation is a survival strategy.
#1 OP didn't make his wife unhappy, insecure nor miserable. She did that to herself.
#2 So, OP is the main tenant or even the owner. Karen is a roommate renting half of the place to OP. Karen act as if SHE own the place. Karen neglect to pay her rent... More that time to kick her out of the place and OP's life.
A promise obtained under threat is NOT binding. Karen threatened OP to force him to agree about not telling things bad about her. So, the «promise» have no value.
#3 OP didn't loose a customer that day. If Karen is true to her word, OP just loss a Pain In The All.
Story 1 - Sounds like current wife knew the ex-wife prior to sleeping with the guy. Current wife wants what the ex-wife has and will do anything to get it.
Agreed.
She sounds like she’s got a grudge against her and is trying to steal everything good from her life
Or not. Maybe that woman is just a narcissist who thinks she is better than the ex. I know people with that toxic mindset who think they 'won' after screwing someone over, doesn't matter who. When the person they thought they 'defeated' eventually revamps their lives or does better, the 'winner' gets depressed because...the universe doesnt revolve around them. I think this is the driving force for people who don't want the ex they dumped to move on, or don't want the person they fired to get a better-well paying job, or the person they bullied become successful. It is toxic competition, entitlement and narcissism, it doesn't need a backstory, the person they hurt doesn't need to have done anything and they can do it to a random person they meet anywhere. Think about how a random Karen slaps a random customer because they said they don't work in that random store.
Exactly what I thought.
Story 2: Damn, I hope OP got out of there... I have never craved an UPDATE to one of these posts more
Story 1: Message for OP, if you date/marry a woman who had no problem with getting in-between your 1st marriage, you'll lose her the same way you got her. She's gonna go after another taken man.
Cheaters rarely ever change their ways.
Story #1: OP, your current wife slept with a married man to be with you. That was the first mistake, the second was thinking she would be forever loyal to you the cheater. Now you wonder why she has been insecure in your marriage, you're a PROVEN Cheater and she is a PROVEN home wrecker. I wonder what went wrong???😂😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉
well i mean SHE didnt have any obligation to protect OP's mariage or its sanctity, i mean for all we know OP didnt even tell her he was married before the hook up, dont get me wrong she sucks for her behavior after the marriage but i cant really blame her to much for what happened before then, honestly to me it seems people care more about homewreckers then cheaters and i just dont get that, like if my partner cheated on me with one of my 'friends' thats a different story but a complete stranger? why would i care about him? he doesnt know me, he doesnt owe my anything, yeah he sucks if he knew he helped someone cheat but i wont get angry at him
Unfortunately, home wreckers and cheaters can be forever loyal to each other (my step-mum & dad are sadly proof) but karma finds a better way to bite loyal ones on the bum. It's great!
@@vhaelen326Wow...this amoral perspective is really astounding. From that woman's actions, do you seriously believe she didn't know OP was married? Really?
@@Azulakayes which actions do you mean? the hook up? that doesnt require any knowledge of op maritals status, in fact studies have found that its easier to find a hook up if you dont tell them youre married. so we CANT know if op was like "hey, im married, also you wanna hook up?" or if he was "hey, how doin, you wanna hook up?" her ACTIONS dont tell us anything about that, the only action we have in that regard is that she hooked up with op with speaks more for the fact that she didnt know, all the actions we CAN judge her on like her behavior of badmouthing his ex wife to the kids, sending nudes etc was way into their marriage in other words way into her knowing op was married but we have nothing to go of to know wether or not she knew BEFORE the HOOKUP or AFTER, and even IF she knew before the hook up we dont know what went on, they couldve both been just short of black out drunk or totaly sober, even IF she didnt know and even IF both were entirely sober i would still place 80% of the blame on OP as the cheater because as i said she doesnt have any obligation towards op's marriage, dont get me wrong im not saying sleeping with someone you know is taken/married whatever is a GOOD or even NEUTRAL thing to do, its still a crappy thing to do but not even remotely as crappy as cheating
Story 2 made me irrationally rage.
Story 3: The metaphorical balls on that EWW. I worked in retail for 5 years and I've always hated the phrase "The Customer is always right" and during when I was in retail in North Carolina, there was an old alcohol law where you couldn't buy alcohol until 12:00 pm. I swear the amount of times I had people coming into my register from 11:50 to 11:55 with alcohol wanting to buy it and what not...if they acted like some of these people man the stories that would fill. But you know what? They were reasonable people and understood that there was nothing I could do until then.
So the moral of the story: Some people just suck.
Story 3 - The OP shouldn't apologise, that customer was given the same respect she was dishing out, and, quite frankly, stores shouldn't cater to customers being cheap and trying to find discounts where none exist.
Straight up, 1st story, OP traded down. 2nd story, OP, you should have ejected her from your life the minute she piled her shit in the living room and forbade you from touching anything. Welcome to your first narcissist. 3rd story, should have voided the transaction when she left the line.
Story 1: OP, you are a dirtbag for cheating on your former wife, who appears to be a loving and caring person. Appearances are only superficial and likely to fade with time. Your current wife obviously doesn't care that she cheated with a married man and now wants to cheat on you to win someone with more money. Sound familiar? It should. I hope your ex and her fiancé can get a restraining order against your wife and you if necessary. Good grief!
Roommate story: OP, get that restraining order ASAP! You may want to have company the police present when it's served for your own safety. Some company at the very least, hopefully with a recording of what happens. Good luck!!! Keep us posted please. Even after she's forced to move, you may want to change where you live to keep her from coming back at you. The restraining order only gives you legal recourse if she violates it, it doesn't stop her from harming you if she does. You don't want her knowing where you live.
Discount pricing story: OP, I think what you said to that choosing beggar of a Karen was the EXACT RIGHT thing to say, as long as you weren't rude or snide about it and otherwise remained professional. That's how people like that need to be treated. If your bosses don't have your back on that, time to find a new job.
I agree about getting a restraining order on OP's wife but I'm a bit confused as to why you think she needs one against OP? There would be a good harassment case for the wife but OP for what, existing?
@@kaitlinm4896 She may not, it depends on how much OP is losing it and possibly supporting his wife against his ex or if he just goes off against his ex.
This is a free country, it’s not rent-free country
Unhinged Roommate Story: In addition to being Psychotic, the Sudden Mood Swings make me think OP's Insane Roommate might also be a little Bi-Polar...
Either way, OP needs both a Camera in their room recording sight and sound 24/7 AND that Restraining Order and they need it YESTERDAY!!!
Story 3 - How much jewelry did she stuff in those clutches?
Story 2: I'd also file a complaint against the officers. When was OP supposed to call? In the middle of being attacked? Would they rather be investigating a murder?
Story 1....if she was just wanting a guy with more money, there would have been other triggers....i think she's got some fixation on the ex-wife..... cuz the ex getting someone was the trigger. Wonder if this current wife, sought out OP prior to working with him. 🤔
Story 2: OP said she wishes she had recorded her roommate. Great idea, because I guarantee she will have another chance when she is triggered again. She needs to keep something on her at all times and turn it on right away once she recognizes the signs. And if she can get such a recording posted to social media, even better!
I'm sure the store in the last story has CCTV. OP should make sure the recordings are saved just in case.
Story 1: I'm pretty sure OP told his ex that he loves her too. And look where it got him. I would say OP deserves that woman.
Remember folks, "The Customer is always right" is only HALF of the saying, the Full saying is "The Customer is always right, IN Matters of Taste" Meaning what they think looks or tastes good is correct, not that their opinion is always correct
20:29 The customer is always right ABOUT TASTE. That is the saying. The business cannot force the customer to buy what the business wants them to.
Either that, or reply with “just yesterday, a customer told me that I’m too nice, and I should get physical if somebody tries to force their way with me. Is that customer always right?”
Third option: ask the boss if “haggling tax” can be added to the register. Add 20% to the entire purchase.
On the second story again, op you should have called the cops on that CRAZY nut job. EVICT HER
When the retail worker felt guilty and said they shouldn't have said what they said to that Karen I died inside a little. Have some self respect FFS.
I know, I was expecting OP to go off and say something rude. That was pretty mild and reasonable to say back tbh
A lot of stores do not like their workers talking back to customers, regardless of how mild what they say is. This is legit the same industry that has Karens trying to get people fired for not smiling enough.
Story 1: The second wife is a clear example of someone cheating on you if they will cheat with you. And her insecurity likely also comes from knowing op cheated with her. But she is also a gold digger. Who knows if she is only with op until someone with more money comes along.
Story 2. Woman or not, as soon as she throws the punch, she's a threat to me and a potential danger to life, I would've shoved her across the room with prejudice to clear my way, left the apartment and called the police instantly. On top of that, you've got the previous interaction with the police to back you up, and any injuries she sustains from being shoved are justified as self defence/preservation.
At some point it depends on actual physical ability and OP didn't describe theirs.
Story 3: That wasn't unprofessional at all! That was straight to the point. Don't apologize for politely putting her in her place!
If someone hurts me, a person in need or an animal............ That equals to a full blown war. No mercy. They wanted to play a violent stupid game? Let's return the favour.
Story 2. Obsessive compulsive personality disorder and bipolar disorder most likely. Or possibly some other form of psychosis could be borderline could be narcissism don't know. But she definitely needs medication and specific therapies
Story 1 - Why is OP's current wife in such bitter competition with his ex? Whether she and OP stay together of not, she badly needs counseling.
Story 2 - Is it bad that I find the most exciting thing about this story is that OP used the word "lie" correctly, in a sentence where far too many people would have said, "lay"? Well done, OP! 😀
Story 2 - "You made me hit you!" The oldest line in the abuser's handbook.
Story #2: Go straight to the ER and get the injury documented!!
Story 3. Good for OP! It's a buisness not a charity shop! 😂
*story 2* the cop is DISGUSTING for shaming OP for waiting to long to call the police.
There's a reason 911 operators are trained to recognize that someone trying to *order pizza* is probably in the room with a violent abuser. If you share a home with a violent person and they catch you reporting their assault to the police, there is an extremely high risk of them flying into a bigger rage and injuring you more fatally. Heck, sexual assault victims often don't report it until the next day because they're in too much shock to speak to the authorities or think straight.
This cop SUCKED and was just trying to get of doing their job.
Please wait until you are SAFE to notify the police when assaulted. If your assailant tries to end your life in retaliation, the police won't get there in time to save you.
Story 3: "The customer is always right" is a phrases that never fails to piss me of. Whether I'm hearing it from a customer, from management and even from stories like this. Because the customer never uses the phrase properly and seem to magically think that it's a 5 word cheat code. No karen. The customer is not always right. The only the the customer is right about is what they want/need to get. Not about fake discounts and not about product details (Unless you've worked in that field/with that product but we all know karens haven't worked in retail). Also, I love how customers always say "You just lost yourself a customer" like it's a bad thing. Most places are going to be fine without your attitude and fake personality. Even smaller business can tell of customers and probably be fine. Which is why I still confused as to why major corporations care about what the customer thinks
20:56 if OP would have just been a little smarter, she should have replied, “are you buying anything, anything at all?” (Of course the woman would have said, “no.”)
At that point I would have said, “ma’am , if you’re NOT buying anything, then you’re NOT a customer! Have a good day!”
Story 2 soon as the roomate hit her contact police have her arrested for assault
story 2 I hope OP gets that sociopath out of their damn apartment. I'd have locked her out said "nah she's not welcome I'm already in the process of filing for eviction, their inability to operate at a peaceful level means they're not welcome, they haven't paid rent and it's well past due so at this point her property will be removed, and if she wants anything else she can go to court.
Story one, please remember this phrase: “If they will do it for you, they will do it to you.” (Example, if they will cheat for you they will cheat on you.) Not 100%, there are rare exceptions, but it’s a good rule to follow.
Story 3: At that point I would consider banning her from the store honestly. 🤷
You don't get to pull that 💩 just because you want to for an extended period of time and expect to just get off scot-free. It's a business, not a charity, use your brain. 😮💨
Nahh, the eviction process has already started, so a restraining order should do just fine. With the restraining order, the roommate must find another place to live, because keeping a certain distance while being in the same home/appartment is impossible. And when the eviction order is final, staying out of the appartment so the Karen of the story can move her crap out is not a problem. After that most problems should be solved.
On the last story. First of all good for OP to stick with the right prices. However, I will say that considering the last few years, specially with the war in the Ukraine, prices have been rising like heck, so the fact that someone wants to try and get prices reduced is not a huge surprise. However doing so must be done honestly and fairly imho.
Last story brings me customer service joy
2nd story: bruh, if someone didn't wanna pay rent they needed to leave and trust me, i dont care who you are if you strike me first all hell will break loose legally.
I wonder who's apartment it was under..if it's under op then sell to the highest bidder but if it's landlord's ask how to cancel
“Police! I’ve been kidnapped! I’ve been locked in this psycho’s basement for four days!”
“Sorry, but you should’ve called us the moment he abducted you. Our hands are tied… just like yours!”
Any time a customer told me "the customer is always right" I would counter with the ACTUAL quote from Harry Selfridge: "The customer is always right in matters of taste", which means I have to praise anything you choose.
story 3 - I mean, your managers may say you shouldn't have said that, but personally I think you 100% should've and I'm glad you did.
On the first story, op DROP her like a ton of bricks. She more interested in money than you, I'm sorry you have to find out that way, I would drop her.
Sounds like it isn't money she is obsessed with, as much as it is the ex-wife.....wanting whatever that lady has.
Story 3. You needed to say that. It WAS the right thing.
Last story, I work in retail I know this feeling very well, we get many customers who misread signs and get pissed, eg there's a sign that says 20% on canvases, which is next to fake flowers,
Worse Ive had was a customer who brought up about $200 to the register, decided only to buy $50 of the items and left the rest on the register which I had to put in a trolley to clean the register just so the register wasn't cluttered thanks to her,
The whole "the customer is always right" quote is the most stupid quote of all time,
Wait ???? The roommate is a germaphobe ....... yet she had no problem demanding a handshake from op ??????
I was shocked too. I dont know why she wanted to shake my hands. We normally kept our distance
@bigsquez Jesus what a Hypochondriac/ chameleon.!!!!
I've said this many time- 'the customer is always right" is a marketing term, not enforced policy. It was coined at a time when customers were given no option to deal with faulty goods and "buyer beware" was the order of the day, so a customer oriented sales policy was a novel concept. Even at the time, critics were quick to point out that, if taken literally, people would take full advantage so even then it was understood that there would be limits. If i owned a business, i would put up a sign in the customer service dept to this effect.
Story 1: The ex wife is getting what *she* deserves and OP & his mistress turned wife has gotten what *they* deserve.
Story 2: Change the locks while she's gone and hold her possessions in lien. She'll get her stuff when you get your money.
Story 3: "No, I'm sorry. The customer is *not* always right. Since we are at an impasse, I suggest you vacate the premises else I will have you removed."
Story 2: Oh I would have started throwing hands. That woman would have rue the day she thought she could lay hands on me and then act like nothing happened.
Story #1: If they’ll cheat with you, they’ll cheat on you. Personally, I feel that both the OP and the new wife deserve to be miserable together. I wish the ex-wife and her fiancé much happiness.
Story 1: I'm glad the ex got the happy ending she deserved for having been married to OP.
First story, she was happy because she thought she ""won"" but guess what? Lol
What is the BS all the time with "the customer is always right"?
That's just crap. The customer is always right when it comes to taste. Customer wants pink unicorns on black wallpaper? Customer is right. Everything else? Nopenopenope.
Customer is right about his taste. But that's IT.
That room mate is a narcissist period. My first hubby blamed me when he hit me. Get her removed immediately.
I work at a semi expensive toy store in a downtown tourist trap kind of mall. People are amazed at the high proces then ask if we are going out of business in the same breath! Lol when they ask why it's so much I tell them well, Louis Vuitton and Ralph Laurent attract a lot of higher income tourists so it's going to be expensive here lol
People also tend to either read our sales signs wrong or ignore them and just think everything is on sale
20:28 but Karen, you said you didn’t want to buy the stuff, that means you aren’t a customer.
First of all, I love how the police said being cautious for calling 911 out of fear of retaliation isn't considered "protocol", but they're oh-so worried about retaliation 24 hours later. That tells me that they are lousy cops and didn't want to help in the first place. They were talking their way out of a situation so they could get back to breaktime.
Second, no, Karen. The customer is NEVER right. I have learned that in my years of working retail. Anybody who thinks otherwise is just toxic.
"The customer is always right in matters of taste"-
Meaning they are right with what they like, nothing more or less
Funny how that last bit always gets let off the phrase.
That's not the only phrase that gets truncated to fit a narrative.
@JamesDavy2009 yep, blood is thicker than water is another one.
It's actually "The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb".
So, the relationships U choose can be stronger than the family you're born into.
@@jesskitty4704 That can even apply to the notion of the people who gave you life not always being your true parents.