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Ayyyyy ya girl is first. Just wanted to just wanted to pop in to say fine work dude... Always detailed analysis and logical conclusions with good video quality.
The number of police officers that were in the home by the end of the situation is ludicrous. For "the people" to be expected to pay for such Idiocracy is unacceptable. These officers were pompous tyrants. I would be interested in knowing where the phone call actually originated.
You say that the police are not obliged to take BB's word as regards the well-being of the other occupants, but the only reason they have to believe there ARE other occupants is BB's word.
Just gonna say I know a lot of people who make accidental calls and just barely get a call back.( including SOS button on phones) mind you I reside in the Great Lake area
Ok you guy do a good job but y'all really need to point out how acting like an AZZ escalates situations. All he had to do was tell the people in the house to come and talk to the cops, its not cool to make things difficult for people who's job it is to find out if everything is okay.
The health of their egos is much more important than the health of a citizen. If a home invasion was happening in plane sight next door, they would ignore it and stay to argue.
@@sonny0888 absolutely, and why are there ten of them just standing around! Simply because they all have to take turns flexing their "corruption" muscle!!!
What concerns me about this is even after the officers had spoken with everyone in the apartment, all of whom stated they did not call 911, and the officers found out there was no land line to the apartment, they still wouldn't leave. Instead more officers arrived, nine in total. There may actually be someone somewhere needing their assistance but they chose to remain there trying to intimidate the resident instead of trying to find out if the was someone in need of help.
in the first minutes I sided with the officers, with the way the resident refused to cooperate after the cop said exactly what he was there for. That opinion shifted quickly though
They could have been in and out of that apartment within two minutes by simply calling the landline phone number to confirm or deny that they were in the wrong place. But we’re talking about leos here, so, yup they chose the hard way.
@@Baer1990 same. If there is a 911 call and one guy says no one called there very well could be a tied up person or a dead body inside. I get that. But, once you know and you are still soul hurt because someone was mean to you, the understanding and sympathy goes out the window.
It was never about making sure ever one is ok. They don't care about any one, all they want to do is excerpt force onto other ppl. Makes no difference to them if its a criminal or not.
this happened to me years ago. the police show up in the middle of the night insisting that a call had been placed. they immediately asked for my husband who had gotten into it with the chief a week before. they insisted on searching my home to make sure he wasnt there and everyone was ok. after an hour arguing with them (my husband was out of town and no call had been made) they finally tell me the call was about a woman and her stepdaughter fighting. i was like WHY are you looking for my husband then? this was confusing to me so i told them i was done and went inside. never heard another word about it. i did notice that the chief was parked on the road watching the whole thing.
Then you should've hired an attorney and pursued the matter in court in order to receive a settlement for retaliation. This sounds so wrong and unjust what this chief did to you.
@@vigorousboredom7016 I actually did go to an attorney after a couple of incidents we had with him. He even tried to have us evicted. But I couldn't afford it so I let it go. A few years later he got fired and was under investigation for malfeasance in office. I we weren't the only ones he messed with.
@@newt3695check the statute of limitations, if it hasn't expired find an attorney that gets paid when you get paid. There are plenty of those bloodthirsty sharks in the waters
@Real actual not fake fact checkers Qualified immunity stops all remedies to justice. Demand commitments from candidates seeking office. maybe a national fired-for-cause cop registry would be helpful.
I would be interested what a FOIA would reveal about the "alleged" 911 call in and of itself. Like did it happen, is the number registered to that address, or was it a ruse to search the home as retaliation for the aforementioned complaint filing?
So they confirmed that the call was not from the house they were in, but instead of immediately turning their investigation to finding out where the call was from, they continue to argue with the homeowner? Why can they never accept when a mistake is made, just apologise and move on? Why aren't they all charged with trespass? They were told to leave private property when there was no reason for them to be there.
I had an officer knock on my door for the same reason. He said it was a landline and I told him I had never had a landline hooked up and he said ok sorry for the disturbance and left. These cops were way out of line and ridiculous.
The thing to keep in mind is that there are actually three sides to this coin. There is you, the innocent citizen caught up in police trying to enter your home. There is the police officer who has a job to do. AND there is the criminal who kidnapped a child and is hiding them in their house. The police don't know if you are an innocent citizen or a criminal. Their job is, first and foremost, to insure the safety of the kidnapping victim, so they must take any and all reasonable steps to do so. You might be a criminal. Or they might have the wrong address. Or it might have been a fake call. But in a situation where a person may end up dead, they can't just take your word for it. HOWEVER, having said that, I absolutely think there needs to be stronger 4th amendment protections for an innocent citizen in that situation. The police show up, announce it is an exigent search related to X/Y/Z, are granted immediate entry to the house, but are only permitted a visual search of the entire premises, they are not allowed to touch anything, can not gather ANY evidence for anything beyond the purpose of the call, can be escorted by the property owner, and MUST leave as soon as it is satisfactorily demonstrated that the exigent circumstance was false. Oh, and the person is absolutely free to follow up on the call that triggered the search, and if the call does not support the search then they can pursue legal satisfaction for an unjustified 4th amendment violation. Law enforcement and police protection is a balancing act between the rights and protections of the innocent citizen on one side, and the obligations of the police and the right of people to be protected from crime on the other side. Right now we have a problem because they are no longer trying to find a balance, there are cases where they just say "screw the rights/protections of innocent citizens, cops are just going to do what they want", and they are not being held accountable for violating people's rights. This has a knock on effect in that because cops are getting away with crimes, people no longer trust cops when it comes to legitimate actions either (like this one where they had legitimate reason to enter the home, even though they overstayed their authority afterward).
@@TwilightMysts Most of this irrelevant to this situation. They could find out that the call did not come from this house, so the entry shouldn't happen. And once that mistake was realized they should be out. There's nothing more to it. Yes, if a 911 call comes from a house, then be thorough and don't just listen to the one who opens the door. But that isn't this situation. They only had a "reason to enter" from incompetence. They got a landline call from a house that doesn't have a landline...
@@ghetifal In reverse order The police need to either verify that the call is not legitimate, that they are mistaken, or they need to rescue the person making the emergency call. Their records were likely outdated, but they don't know that. And as you pointed out, they can't take the resident's word for it. They can reach out to the phone company, but that could take anywhere from hours to weeks and if it was a legitimate call, the victim may not have that long. So their only real option was to move forward until they could confirm that the house in question was not a concern. As for the other part, It is absolutely relevant since I was addressing police doing forced entry into homes under exigent circumstances, and comparing the requirements of police in a legitimate emergency against the necessary protections of innocent residents when it was not a legitimate emergency or the police make a mistake. Mistakes happen. Cops could have bad information, they could write down the wrong home number, the phone company may not have given them current information, or it could be a bored teenager or vindictive coworker trying to swat them. So fundamentally it comes down to the question of how do you balance the rights of crime victims vs the rights of innocent home owners. Again, how is that not relevant to a video where police raid a home of innocent people based on an emergency call?
All you need to know is that he never identified himself yet received a citation in the mail...proving they knew him and that this was retaliation for his IA complaint.
@@maxc1830 you can't give someone a fine without knowing thier name is point. They 100% knew who he was and decided to try and be bullies in the situation.
@@venwik5278 it couldn’t have been a burner phone, it was a landline phone number and they found out there is no landline in the house. This completely dissolves your claims
@@TheHockey991 the cops knew the number as they repeated it back to the resident Brian. Simple solution is to call that number, no ring, no phone. Bye bye piggies. Brian has an open and shut case for police misconduct and violation of his 4th Amendment Right.
The fact that the home had no land line is evidence that suggests that the call was a completely fictitious fabrication. I don't believe their excuse for invading that home would be upheld in a federal court.
Dude, the cop he had a beef with was 110% who dropped the dime here. He needs to sue the living daylights out of these thugs. With the act of “swatting”and caller ID spoofing prevalent these days, these types of welfare checks need to seriously be looked at for being legislated out of existence. It’s just too easy to throw aside the 4th A over a bogus call!!!
@@skulkerbro7603 no you're wrong, their is possessive while there is used in a general term (placement etc) Don't try to correct someone when you're just in the wrong Edit: I didn't realise there was a second "there" that was actually wrong. My bad lmao Still thought it's rude to correct someone, don't think you're better or more central because that's just snobby and narcissistic
@@RiverStiix if you feel bad because someone corrected your use of the American English language you're too soft. Also, using your logic wouldn't it be just as much of a dick move to tell someone they're wrong just to realize they were still correct?
Whenever cops get caught screwing up they awkwardly try to strike this balance of resolving their screw up, but also retaining their sense of power and superiority and it's always super clumsy.
Exactly, why not just apologize? Hey sorry man, we got an emergency call, had to check if someone was being held against their will, lots of psychos and what not. Have a good night sir, bye! Like so simple
My dad was a cop for 31 years and you hit the nail on the head about almost every interaction I've had with him. He's never apologized to me in my life, ever. Not once. Didn't teach me to shave, didn't teach me about sex, but has ALL these loud opinions as to how I need to live my life. When caught in the wrong he has to maintain the look of his ego and pride while tactically changing the subject or finding some other avenue to try for switching blame to the other person. I disowned him, because really, who needs to deal with that? F that.
When he said he had a complaint to Internal Affairs, the whole picture was revealed. This whole thing was retaliatory and trying to provoke an arrestable offense. No wonder the resident was hostile out of the gate, this wasn't his first run-in with unreasonable police.
Yup, totally unreasonable of the police to want to make sure everybody in the house was okay. Would've been a shame had this dude just got done beating the shit out of his wife, then he says everything is fine, and the officers are just like "okay sounds good have a good night".
@@Kevin-gq8dz yet they wear cloths on their face to "stop a virus". These thugs are nothing more than tyrants. Just doing "what they're told" instead of what is right and more lawful. Police get what they deserve. They serve and protect government and corporations. Period.
Once the cops learned they were at the wrong place, and that all occupants were fine, they should've just apologized and left. What about getting to the place where the 911 call actually csme from? They way this played out, it's suspicious.
Man, tell that to Daniel Shaver. Oh gosh, my bad; you can’t because the cops murdered him in front of his wife and best friend. He desperately tried to follow their confusing as fuck, legit impossible directions all the while sobbing and begging them not to kill him, and in response to his anguished pleas they effectively forced him to play a game of Twister in a field laden with land mines at gunpoint while drunk. He lost, and they fucking executed him in the hallway in front of his loved ones. I totally get your point about us(black lives) being disproportionately affected by police brutality and murder but the cemetery is also filled with the bodies of our fellow white citizens as well.
@@pugachevskobra5636????? you really need to tag who you're responding to, and like, yeah, that happens, it still doesn't change that had he been black, the odds that he would have been killed are a lot higher and that white people escape death in these scenarios a lot easier than others he wouldn't have survived here had he been black, it's not a pissing contest or some kind of opression bux lottery, nothing is gained by trying to out-victim people. X and Y do not have to endlessly be compared, it's deceptive at best to respond to any notice or consciously register how depressingly different this would have been under different circumstances by bringing up a time where an unhinged sociopath used his power to execute an inebriated man at a hotel, who happened to be white. not bringing that up isn't some snubbing of judicial misdeeds to other demographics. it's not a fuckin competition. "scary to think how this would have gone if the victim had been black" *koolaid man bursts through wall* "YOU'RE IGNORING THAT COPS ALSO KILL WHITE PEOPLE, LET ME BRING UP IN EXCRUCIATING DETAIL WHEN A WHITE MAN WAS KILLED BY POLICE TO SHAME YOU OR SOMETHING"
I disagree with your C- rating. Once they stopped being restrained by the law they immediately deserve an F for harassing the guy when they knew there was no danger.
@@GarrettCARROTZ Well, he did try to slam the door in their faces when they had a right to confirm the situation. The person's own ignorance of the law made the situation ten times worse and then everyone wants to act like the cops are the bad guys.
@@thenightingale7405 Why though? There was a phone number linked to the wrong address. Maybe it was intentionally done to harass the homeowner, but that is besides the point. As a 911 call they had a right to check the occupants of the home and the man wanted to refuse them that right out of his own ignorance. He did commit obstruction by trying to prevent the officers from checking the home. In fact they could go inside and check every room if they wanted to be real assholes. The homeowner decided to act like a big dog and run his mouth when this whole incident could have been over in a fraction of the time. The homeowner was not even in the right except when he refused to identify himself.
11:54 gives me chills, "if any one is need of assistance." 5 cops deep on a suspected hang up, all staring you down step by step forcing themselves further into your residence. No land line in sight, no hurry to leave and find the supposed person who placed the call. Just so gross, that they can just stand there like that.
And embarrassingly enough they can check for land lines on the outside of the house...or simply call the number back that called 911 and see what happens
Imagine if the original 911 caller died waiting for the police while they were completely occupied at the mistaken address after the mistake was clearly known by all the police.
There was likely no 911 call in the first place. Mr B mentioned in the video that he had a complaint escalated to an IA investigation on several New Brunswick officers so I don't have much trouble believing this was simply a retaliatory action against him - plain old police harassment. But yeah, I get the sentiment completely. Police officer's egos seem to routinely interfere with their duties to citizens.
I can only start with an assessment of you. You are unaware of how 911's operate. I am not an operator but have seem calls handled. EVERYTHING they can get is entered into a system - the one i have seen is CAD, computer aided dispatch. If the operator died. another operator would know what had happened. The stupidity I see here is both mind boggled and scary. I was unaware people were this stupid.
@@SHANEIZOID And you know that - HOW? As an aside, there are several key things that were ignored by the Audit. First, the no land line answer is 10000 to one likely to be bogus. Land line addresses are GOOD, unlike cells. That home has a land line. He lied. Second, his word that there is nobody but the 3 is not good enough to leave. This is how imprisioned kis and adults have been held long after police have been alerted, did a door check and left. His sorry butt should have been pulled out the door, face down and they did a walk through and closet check for others. Nothing he said was credible.
As another user pointed out, the fact that he refused to identify himself yet still recieved a citation in his name suggests they knew exactly who he was and were in fact retaliating under pretense. These cowards of oath-breaking traitors can't even be honest about oppressing people. How pathetic! Anyway, dont forget to offer them a blindfold when you all put em against the wall. You are going to do that, arent you? No? Oh, well then, enjoy your community police then. You deserve it!
The guy is being deliberately obstinate and aggressive, and I think the police were perfectly justified in not letting him slam the door in their faces. As to his current Internal Affairs complaint, since he never identifies himself, we have no way of knowing whether this claim is true or not, and if it is, whether the complaint is legitimate. His attitude screams of someone who really, REALLY wants to start a fight with the police. That being said, the obstruction ticket probably won't stick. After they had verified the call didn't come from the apartment and he refused to identify himself, they should have left. They are probably in the wrong for that. @Innocent Bystander The fact that he received a citation in his name in no way means they knew who he was before hand, they could very easily have looked up who was resident in the home after they left.
They could've forcibly removed these 4th Amendment violating tyrants from his home and it would have been perfectly legal! How did you rate this a C-???????? They were trespassing once they were dispelled. This was completely retaliatory and is an F.
The kid was being a dick from the start too. If he had been polite and explained the situation none of it would have happened. He was hostile right from the start, that NEVER is going to go well with police. Honestly, if they BELIEVE a 911 call was made from the house, and you are being hostile and saying no you can't speak to the other people here what do you expect them to conclude?
Proof there was no 911 call… once they “verified” the call didn’t come from this guy’s apartment they didn’t spend one second trying to find the original call.
This is what I was thinking. As soon as they realized it wasn’t this house why did they not make efforts to find the house the supposed landline is actually registered to?? Gross incompetence or a setup
@@10bd1 I think it was a setup because of his internal affair complaint on that department. It makes more sense after he received a retaliatory ticket for obstructing.
I remember one time the cop's came to my house and said we where hiding a run away kid so they didnt need a warrant to enter, once they searched and found no kid they proceeded to fish and go thru drawers, cabinets started to go thru all of our item's and one of them said " I wouldn't be surprised if we found drug's around here" complete disrespect and abuse of power.
Ah man, you get an F for this one, guaranteed there was never a 911 call at all. They were doing this to harass the guy because he had an internal affairs complaint.
The way I understood it, he hadn't before the incident. Rather, what he meant was, that he's going to complain about the first cop - whom he asked for the badge number.
The irony of the persistence and wasted time after discovering they're at the wrong address is there was still a person that dialed 911 and possibly needed assistance.
After they came in and the cop admitted it was not from that house, they should of left there house, there ago and the almighty authority would not let it go, they tried escalate, bully, intimidate, under the guise of routine and i have no doubt that they were looking for one thing to happen where they would jump on him and hit the stop resisting button on there mouths and all the other incriminating phrases in there bag of tricks to make this man a criminal and them be justified in harming and violating his rights
Cops are only ever looking for people to assault or harass. Sure, they started the night out looking for the source of the 911 call to satisfy their appetite, but once they found Mr. B, they then had their target/victim. The 911 call became irrelevant! Probably left the scene and proceeded to arrest an innocent young black man a couple blocks down.
It went from "checking on public welfare", to "showing WE do what WE want" real fast. The cops main objective here was to prove that they answer to no one, regardless of the law. But, we knew that didn't we ?
Another one I heard from a judge was: Your duty does not create the legal authority to ignore rights. Or some such. Ugh, I wish I remembered the details of the case.
@@ashkebora7262 I like that one, too. Awful day and age that a judge actually has to remind a police officer of this, but kudos to the judge for doing so.
Wait, what? Cop: "It's a landline, okay?" Citizen: "There's no landline here." Cop: "There's still one registered to this house." My question is. If there is no landline at that house then where the hell did the 9-11 call come from? Oh. Now I get it. He has filed a complaint against one of them. Definitely looks like retaliation to me. The obstruction ticket in the mail is more proof of that. First thing I would do is FOIA that 9-11 hangup call.
I was thinking there potentially could be something totally fucked with their 9-1-1 system, one has to wonder how many other numbers that are coded to a certain address in their system area actually completely inaccurate addresses. Kinda scary to think about if you actually did need police but couldnt talk for whatever reason, you can call from your landline and they would have no way to track your call to actually find ya
This happens way more often than you think. Chances are the last owners of the house didnt file their new address with the government which happens all the time but carried their old phone number with them.
@@yagamijubei28 He'd have to know the number associated with the address to use one. These folks don't strike me as those who would want a landline. Used to work for a telcom and we had a special team that dealt with phantom 911 calls (largely to avoid the company getting fined). My guess is it was a ghost call after a power blip. Unless they were dumb enough to actually plug a phone in on a prank and made the call. But with no service, the phone line should have been unhooked at the switch. Unless they rent and the landlord kept one active for some reason...or they had an alarm... The more I think about it, the more I think an investigation from the telcom's side would yield some 'interesting' data.
Wow, this happened to me! My wife and I were making dinner when a cop knocked on our door. It completely surprised us because we live basically in the woods. He said there was a 911 call from this address and he had to check it out. We told him no one here called. He insisted that someone in the house called and we explained that we were making dinner and there were no issues. It was later determined that a neighbor woman had an emergency only cell phone and inadvertently activated it. The officer never forced his way into our home however. As a matter of fact, we tried to help him solve the mystery because he was very nice about the whole thing. This demonstrated the flaw in their tracing of calls. It was also an example of how working with the public, instead of against them can lead to a better outcome.
That is likely how this would have gone if this Brian B wasn't being a dick. For all the officers knew, 911 was being called because of him and his actions and, as stated in the above video, could not dutifully take him at his word that everyone was fine. He took the first opportunity to start cussing and name calling over a simple wellness check stemming from a 911 call that was unfortunately mistraced to Brian B's location. That being said, there was no excuse to longer in the house well after it was established that nothing was wrong despite being asked/told to leave.
@@sevenfjell118 That is often the case with these videos. The defendant/subject of the video skirts the line of being cooperative and exercising their rights. Usually their tone is not friendly. This leads the cops involved to also not be friendly. That said, there are quite a number of videos on this channel of the cop being a blatant idiot and abuser of authority however. Also, if you're a cop, then you shouldn't be the type to immediately stoop to the level of the person you're investigating. Personally I feel that the "hostile but legal citizen" type draws out those with patience and attitude issues which might have done something worse further on down the line. If someone being irritable causes you to break protocol and perhaps even the law, you shouldn't be a cop.
@@CrizzyEyes 100% agree. However I don't think that's very applicable in this particular instance. The officers remained respectful when Brian B was, in fact, in the wrong when he denied and subsequently attempted to block their entrance. Brian B only became justified in his behavior once it was established that the 911 call did not originate in his home and the officers failed to leave. I would also argue that the officers remained calm and collected even when they crossed over to the point where they were the ones in the wrong. But the calm and collected demeanors don't excuse them violating his rights by staying and insisting on additional information he was not legally obligated to provide once they had established the 911 call was traced inaccurately. I will say this, I paid a visit to Brian B's TH-cam page after watching this video. He's in his own comments section saying "ACAB" and telling people to "stop deepthroating the boot" when they simply point out that for all he knows, something was a very routine traffic stop. Brian B presents himself as being very anti-cop and that's all well and good with me, personally. However, it does show that he entered this particular interaction looking for his moment to be a tough guy with a cop.
There could have been no actual "call". The cops already know of him from the IA complaint. Smells of harassment. The ticket days later is the cherry on top.
Yeah like at first I was giving these cops the benefit of the doubt and considered they may have had reason to bust in since they had possible reason to believe there could have been a danger, but by the second half of the video they lost me. Like the fact that they have a history with this guy and that the supposed call didn't actually come from the damn house is very suspicious. Even if there was a legitimate call, after they busted in a confirmed that everyone was definitely ok, they should have immediately admit they were wrong and corrected their actions by leaving immediately. Yet they stayed and demanded information they had zero right to and continued wasting these people's time. Their Ego's could not handle the idea of them being in the wrong and tried to justified themselves even though no one was asking. Truly sickening behavior here.
As someone who was present for a situation similar to this where a friend accidentally butt dialed 911 and hung up. I asked the cop what number the 911 call came from, figured out who it belonged to and tossed them outside to deal with the cops. It worked surprisingly well.
What scares me the most about this one is the fact that there was an emergency called and no-one is trying to figure out where that is.. they are too busy in this guy's house fighting him and for what?
They have no way of figuring it out other than telling dispatch that the address is incorrect. It's up to dispatch to do more research as to where the call came from. What do you want them to do, go knocking door to door in what may be the complete wrong side of town for hours and hours until they just so happen to find the person?
@@sparkplug._ None of them told dispatch that the adress was incorrect though. The very least they could have done was PISS OFF once they were sure that this wasn't the place. What do you expect them to do? Telepathically tell dispatch the adress is wrong and then stay at his place watching TV until dispatch told them the correct place?
@@EskChan19 The police definitely made some pretty bad mistakes in this situation. I didn't notice if they had told dispatch or not but that should've definitely been step one. And one they were sure it wasn't the home then they definitely should've left. They were there for much longer than they reasonably or legally should've been. I agree with all of that. The main thing I don't agree with that most people say in this situation is that the cops should've just left when the person who answered the door said everyone is ok and tried to make them leave. If you're harming someone and holding them against their will in your house then obviously you're not going to tell the cops about it when they knock on your door. EDIT: The other thing I have a big issue with is people saying the cops were 100% wrong and the resident was 100% right. The cops were wrong, but the resident was fighting the cops the whole way when they were trying to make sure everyone was safe and get the landline officially disassociated from the house. The resident did have his rights violated, but he did almost everything he could to make the situation harder for the officers and himself. If the resident had been professional (not even kind, but professional) with the officers and given them a reasonable amount of information while still withholding the information he legally didn't have to provide then the situation would've almost definitely been resolved much more quickly and easily.
10:49 " I have an internal affairs complaint on one of the sargents ..." Thus we have the real answer - a cop "claimed", fraudulent, "911 call from a land line" , that isn't at this address... The cops decided a fake 911 call would be a good harassment measure to attack the guy and his family at his home, since he complained about one of their sargents. THE COPS SELF SWATTED THIS GUY.
@@jonaseschle1104 I think the cops made up the land line. The people living there didnt set one up and even if there was one before, the number shouldnt be useable for a call. It'd be listed on the house's info they probably had so they prob made it up assuming they had once since it was there they moved in
I would want the cops to check on every one in the property because there have been plenty of cases where victims of domestic violence have called 911 and hung up. If the cops had just ignored those calls, there'd be more dead victims of intimate partner violence and kidnappings. He should have just allowed them to speak to *everyone* in the property. Once the police clarified that no one had phoned, then they should have left the property. Anything after them verifying that no one was in danger is harassment on their part.
Absolutely... before... it could have been very well a hostage or domestic situation... someone speaking for the whole household when someone could have called and not been able to talk... but as soon as the spoke with everyone they should have left. Period.
The cops were initially in their right and could reasonnably be suspicious about this guy's behaviour. But after they figured out the call didn't originate from the house and everyone was safe it just turned to harassement. All the while the person who actually called 911 was potentially still in need of help...
You can’t just say “no one called 911” and then close the door on responding officers. Otherwise, kidnappers, sex trafficers, bugalrers, rapist, and murderers could just hang up their victims’ 911 calls and then tell officers to leave whenever they arrive. Is this what you would want to happen if you, or someone you loved, were ever in one of those hypothetical victims’ positions??
I just don't understand why he wouldn't let the cops talk to the others in the house, it would have given the police no reason to be so suspicious and enter his house.
The biggest concern yet is why TF the officers weren't in a bigger urgency to find the ACTUAL origin of the phone call if there actually was an emergency at another location.
Yeah exactly they made a really big deal of iy being a 911 call and yet no concern of helping that person after the cops made the mistake guess that's what pride and ego does wtf happens in there training seriously 🙄
Maybe because the first person to say, “nobody called, go away, no you can’t investigate” is probably the one with the tied up kid in their basement, not the person that say, “sure come on in, I’m just back here chopping people up.” Judging by the video we’re provided, the police made it all of about 5 steps into the residence with multiple other rooms and doors.
@@thisisIvixis Okay, then the police need to come back with a warrant or, if they're willing to risk a lawsuit for violation of rights, barge into the house and search anyways
Completely glossed over the claimed internal affairs / retaliatory angle. With how these guys conducted themselves, it should have had more weight. Also, lets talk about how there are 9 officers burning tax dollars while a 911 hang-up actually goes unanswered.
My thoughts exactly. How do they justify wasting time at this house while somebody could potentially be in danger. “We need your name” What you need to Do is take your little overweight boy band to the right house and see what the problem is.
@@artifexhuman because the hang up was probably fraudulent. A land line from a house that has no land line involving a guy with an internal affairs complaint against the police. Sounds shady and worth investigating.
I had a crazy neighbor that kept complaining about noise, call the cops on us at like 2:30am when my wife and I were asleep since midnight. The cops had to come inside my home to check if my wife was okay, because someone called in noises of domestic violence. smh
I grew up in that town, moved away about 4 years ago and lemme tell you. I didn’t notice how corrupt it really was until then. The cops most likely did do this out of retaliation for him because of the amount of gang mentality and nepotism that police force has.
@@christopherwellman2364 when I got stopped, I had 4 squad cars surround the street. They have nothing better to do most of the time and are just there for intimidation purposes.
@@NamoromaN I had 6 cars and 10 cops when I got stopped for having a tail light out on my motorcycle. It was on the good end of town too. I wish I had body cam footage from that, it was insane. They wound up not giving me a ticket but made me wait on the side of the road at 1 am until I could get someone to pick me up. They kept driving by every 2 minutes to make sure I hadn't left.
@@utjason8 : I get that having a tail light out is more dangerous on a motorcycle, but at that point, they might as well have taken you and your bike to AutoZone, and saved you all a good deal of time!
This was 100% a retaliation. Guy has internal affairs going after the Sargent. They were sent to falsely enter to find anything they can incriminate b with. This is actually really scary.
@@ericvoots That complaint makes me wonder if that is truly what this was all about. I wonder if anyone had checked to see if there WAS an actual 911 call they were using for justication.
If an officer knowingly enters a home with no warrant it should be treated as breaking and entering. If they falsely arrest somebody they should be charged with kidnapping. Don’t give them the power to make mistakes like this and go about their day and maybe we can actually trust the people that were meant to “serve and protect” again. Every police department has officers like this because it’s an easy job for someone with no skills and anger issues to be drawn to.
It takes NINE cops to investigate a non-emergency from a non-existent land line! Wow! This was pure intimidation. They're also being negligent because they should have been on patrol.
Probably should have sent teams out to search instead of harassing the home owner. Clear retaliation by the police, probably wasn't even a 911 call. All cops lie, never forget, all cops lie.
@James Stewart You would think so, but is it possible to fake the number so that the person that answers sees the wrong but local number? I get a few scam calls in the UK from what looks like local numbers but its obvious when the person talks that they are from somewhere like Mumbai or Calcutta, India.
Called, once, to file a complaint on an officer. Was in cuffs 30 minutes later. Officer I wanted to report wound up being the one set to lock me up on "obstruction". Crazy coincidence. 🙄
Even if he snapped, he would have the complete legal right to do so. They were legally armed trespassers once they refused to leave after talking to everybody present in the house and being informed there is no landline. He could have legally killed every police officer in his apartment in all 50 states.
@@ominarous It is indeed interesting to think, that at a certain point in time, the officers in the house were literally just armed trespassers, and this event was no different from an armed home invasion, where one is absolutely legally allowed to retaliate with lethal force in self defense. Though I am not certain how justifiable this would be in court unfortunately. The uniform and badge they wear gives unreasonable rights and powers to officers that overstep their bounds and legal authority, as in practice they often get away with things because of the badge and uniform they have, which absolutely would count as a felony and would be a reasonable case of citizen self defense if evoked by the citizen.
@@AFE1312 its online already "John" is just now covering it... you should look for the original theres much to the background of this story that he may not cover. you are right... i did not finish it. im already aware of the type of case this is and how to prosecute it in court.
It probably was retaliatory based on 9 policemen present after it was discovered the phone number did not belong to the house and they were not trying to respond to the actual source of the call if it even existed. The police were endangering the actual caller with this extension of a response.
Gotta think of both sides. Some officers DO want to be heros and they DO actually want to help. Put yourself in their shoes. Would you want to make sure everyone in that home was safe? Possibly saving a potential life. I see both sides honestly. Just wasn't a fun situation for anyone
@@floogalflambyn6805 theres no both sides of anything lol they literally over served their purpose and made no attempt to find the real person they called. Stop trying to both sides shit just because you wanna excuse the officers lol that was goofy
@@stephonhopkins3690 and you just want to demonize them. See how easily your shit argument can be turned against you? If you don’t see both sides your an inconsiderate idiot. The cops aren’t douchebags, they made a mistake, if you make a mistake at your job are you a shitty human being? They wanted to make sure someone wasn’t being fucking raped and beaten in the house, and the dude was acting insanely erratic.
@@bradenmiller4356 in a house where there was no landline? Lol yeah ok buddy. Then come to find out he has an open case on an officer lol yeah that’s cute.
The police is at fault here, but I understand them wanting to check with everyone in the house, thats just common sense. If my husband abuses me and he answers the door, of course he would say everybody is ok.
Sounds retaliatory to me. This guy had an internal affairs investigation going against the sergeant. it’s possible the police could’ve looked up the LAN line to that house, said there was a call and hang up so they would have reason to go to the address and investigate, and then just hassle him.
@@Scapestoat Actually, LAN stands for Local Area Network. Ever dial a phone number that has the same area code as you? (example: 1123345 calls 1233345 without adding 555 to the beginning) Thats because the phone number was within your Local Area Network, therefore, instead of calling an external number, you called someone locally in the same LAN connection. Hopefully I taught you something because that'd be cool.
Wow, I can just imagine that while this is all happening, the entire family next door was murdered and the killer walked past all of these preoccupied police officers as they left the actual origin of the 911 call.
Once Brian B said he had already filed a complaint against one of their fellow officers I knew exactly what this was about. They showed up to try and intimidate and bully him for filing a complaint against one of their own. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if that 911 call was completely made up just so they could use it as a excuse to harass this man. That entire police department should be ashamed of themselves.
9 officers….for a 911 call, that they don’t actually know where it came from. Even once they found out for sure it didn’t come from there, they STILL did not leave. I think he has a case if he has a current internal affairs investigation, he is right to think this is retaliatory.
Basically this. And the officers had this weird attitude the whole time (special mention, the one making a face at the phone regocrding him). Very creepy stuff.
if this is true and he has an internal affairs investigation ongoing at the time then theres 100% a case for an investigation into whether the incident was staged or not by the officers/ precinct involved... HOWEVER it is highly unlikely to be the case and mostlikely the reason they didnt leave when asked was due to the owners erratic and aggressive behaviour. he's well within his rights to do so but you can see why the officers involved acted the way they did also. honestly i'd be 100% on the officers side IF they hadent served him with obstruction, he technically did obstruct their duties but to such a minor degree that really serving him with that obstruction charge was just petty.
Not erratic. Consistent in not letting 'em in and telling them to leave.. Everyone knows not to let the police into the apt without a warrant. Now we know that police can force itself in, but that is different from letting them in. The likelihood of this "silent 911" call being phoney is 99%, in this case, and therefore not letting them in is proper, and not an obstruction. AtA is off in its analysis and grades given. Once this jerk refused their admission, and no likely life threatening exigency was present, building was surrounded, and a warrant could have been obtained and presented within 30min - thus avoiding tickets and lawsuits and taxpayers' money being wasted, and broken doors and bad feelings.
The initial stepping inside made sense, since someone who may be carrying out domestic abuse could and probably would say the same things that B said, but everything after the cops finding out everyone inside was safe was just some bs.
I 100% agree. My only concern is that just because they didn't see a land line doesn't mean one isn't further back in the house. Same with there being a potential fourth person they didn't see. Having said that.... what are the 5 outside looking over each others shoulders going to do? And if the cops actually thought what I said might be the case, why didn't they do a quick room by room scan? I also made a point of looking at the other cops faces when the guy mentioned the complaint. Not one registered any shock or interest. Like they knew or this was so common that it isn't worth noting.
@@Badartist888 they actually can't if they only *think* a crime is being comitted. There has to be a reasonable suspicion. Courts have slapped them down time and time again because they "believed" a possible crime was being committed but then couldn't articulate any actual reasoning. And acting suspicious isn't reasonable suspicion to perform a warrantless search under false pretenses of a magically unverifiable 911 call
After they confirmed everyone in the house was fine but still refused to leave would have had me losing my mind too. Who do you call to remove the police from your home when they aren't supposed to be there?
I hope he sues the shit outta that police department. That was harassment pure and simple. This is why people hate the cops. They listen to nothing you say yet we are supposed to obey everything they tell us.
Once they get no cooperation, which makes their life miserable, cops seek to make life as difficult as possible for the citizen. These videos likely do not reveal what was really going on. Here, if the guy calling 911 wasn't identified, you gotta identify that person to understand wht was really going on.
@@doginho121 ya hes got no chance he handled it poorly. they clearly wanted to at least get a visual and a verbal confirmation that the person with him was ok. i mean it happens where abused women call and hang up that's obviously what they were thinking, im sure if he just got his girl to come to the door and acted chill it would have went differently.
I actually had something very similar happen to me when I moved this spring. I kept having the local PD showing up for 911 hang-ups from my address. First couple times I shrugged it off after checking my cell to make sure I didn't pocket-dial or something. But after several visits, some daily, twice on one day, the officer said it was coming from a land line. Only problem was, there is no landline here. Finally after they came about ten times, the officer pointed out a small plastic box attached to what looked like phone wire outside on my side lawn by the porch. He said maybe the rain was affecting it, as the calls always seemed to happen after a rainfall. So I removed the box, and no returns from the police ever since. Luckily the local PD were very professional and cordial with me during every encounter, and they never once tried forcing entry.
I'm a telecoms technical support advisor and have been for four years. I have never seen weather causing false calls of any type. The closest thing I have seen is crossed lines causing false calls, but this is extremely rare. I'm in the UK, though, The US telecoms network may function differently to ours.
That ticket was to get on record that the dude has a history of negative interactions with the police so they can attack his character in relation to his complaint to IA. Notice how they were trying any and everything to get him to do something stupid
Not a lawyer, but in what world does that help their case with IA if it happens AFTER the complaint that IA is investigating? If anything it would look like harassment.
@@emmafrost3115 To my knowledge you can use the character/behaviour of a person as evidence against their reliability when giving testemony. And for that the timeline is irrelevant.
@@oakley4595 They already knew who he was beforehand. Probably why they chose to stay there and try to provoke the guy into doing something that’ll get him arrested. That would damage his character and call his IA complaint into question.
Umm... a mysterious "call-and-hangup" from a number supposedly associated with the address of someone who has a _current_ IA complaint against the department? I'd be REAL curious to know if there's any actual record of this call at the emergency call center. -- Also, I can imagine being a LOT more scared and angry than he ended up being in the circumstances. He has a goddamn complaint against the department and a LOT of them show up on a demonstrably flimsy excuse and seem extremely eager to enter the premises further/not leave upon explicit requests even after it's clear the 911 hangup was bogus. -- IT IS CLEAR _beyond a reasonable doubt_ that they just didn't want to follow _his_ "orders". Police largely become institutionalized as authoritative bullies and they expect to end encounter on _their terms_ and to anyone who wants to argue that their behavior was motivated by any genuine concern for citizen safety or police procedure, I've got a big fat NFT bridge-token with their name on it.
@@ashwaa-r9d so, mobile has a feature that translates comments at the press of a button, and it showed up on your comment, and when I tapped it, it changed to "lol". I don't know why, but I found it funny that it did that.
In my book any LEO that knowingly breaks the law gets an F. If they are simply ignorant of the law, they get a D at best, assuming they did nothing else wrong.
@@mahlatsesathekge5596 You don't understand what happened in this video. It's an "Eyes Wide Shut" case. "Sir, we had a 911 call from this house." "Nobody called 911." "Can we speak to the other residents?" "No." RED FLAG. What do you mean "no". Since we're all so keen on rights, don't the other residents have a right to answer for themselves? Why not? Once he answered "no" for the other residents this could only end with a house full of cops. This is the situation form the police perspective. If somebody called 911, they called against this belligerent asshole. Fill the house with cops, get as many police here as we can. Not to intimidate him, but to make the person who called 911 feel safe enough to come forward. Did you notice the situation ends when there 10 cops standing around and the lady calmly explains she did not call and is not in danger. Then they leave. This is a situation where some idiot created major problems for himself. A little common sense and it all would have ended quickly and amicably.
@@jasonlongton1876 If there was a situation, the cops would have heard some sort of altercation or the guy would not have responded to the knocking at all. When they were able to actually talk to them and say no one called, it should have ended there, yet it didn't. Your reasons do not justify their unwanted presence after being told to leave and further defines lack of logic.
@@jasonlongton1876 Once the officer's no longer had a valid reasonable suspicion, and they were asked to leave, their continued presence was illegal. F
@@mkirkman89 lol not to mention that it was stated that the homeowner had a pending complaint at the time. It was stated at 10:53 This was nothing short of harassment. It literally does not make sense that a landline would trace to a house that it isn't in. Their story was flimsy and they used the guys reaction of being reluctant to deal with police (considering he had a pending complaint) to brute force their way past his rights and his front door. And then not only staying at the home after it was clear nothing was wrong, but allowing *nine* let me say it again *AT LEAST NINE* officers to show up. This was like textbook police harassment.
C- feels too high for these guys. D- feels more accurate. They were initially in their right to enter. But the moment they figured out they were at the wrong place, they should have apologized and left, then sent him a retaliatory ticket later. Having 9 police at his house when the first two should have left the moment they realized they were at the wrong place when they entered the house is ridiculous.
Nine " officers " were at the wrong address......meanwhile, 12 year old Sky has been abducted from her home and is lying dead in a ditch. I'm sure there are some good cops out there but the more I watch AtheA the more I doubt it.
Just try to keep things in perspective: This channel is a bit of a highlight reel of some of the worst law enforcement performances. You're not going to see the vast amount of very boring "normal" police interactions happening on a daily basis, precisely because they're boring. Assuming an average of about four officers per video, and about one video per week, that's something like 200 highlighted officers per year. Figuring roughly half a million police officers in the US, you're seeing about 0.04% of the total police force represented here. For those people affected by that small number of problematic officers, it's terrible, obviously. Those people should be compensated for the injustices they suffer, and by all means, we should do everything we reasonably can to reduce that number of problematic interactions. However, it can be very tempting to paint with entirely too broad a brush here, and it's important to keep in mind, there are vast numbers of police officers out there, whose names and stories you will never hear, who have 25 or 30 years of honorable, courageous service protecting their communities, characterized by positive interactions. The vast majority of police are people just trying to do the job the best they can, and it's a dangerous and often thankless job. This all is compounded by people primed to assume the worst by this loss of perspective, so I'll ask: How do you suppose you would feel if each contact you had with people in your job began with them assuming you were both thoroughly incompetent and actively trying to harm them?
@@don_5283 This channel is not a highlight of a few bad apples. Bad apples like these cannot exist without a culture of corruption. You think you're seeing the exception, but you're seeing the rule.
@@don_5283 "Just try to keep things in perspective: This channel is a bit of a highlight reel of some of the worst law enforcement performances. " Just try to keep things in perspective: These NINE COPS swore an OATH to obey and uphold the law to the letter. Just try to keep things in perspective: These NINE COPS looked at the three people in the house, saw that they were fine and did not need assistance, and then refused to leave. Just try to keep things in perspective: These NINE COPS broke into a mans home without a FUCKING WARRANT because an old number that was last used at the address, which no longer has an active land line, was used to make a 911 hang-up call. Just try to keep things in perspective: You are trying to deny "12 year old Sky" her right to feel safe at home by saying not nearly all cops are bad. Really? No fucking shit. But here is the problem: The cops in this video took a misunderstanding and ROLLED WITH IT. Going so far as to kick the mans door in and get SEVEN other cops there to stop a crime that hadn't been committed, Hadn't been thought to be committed, Hadn't been POSSIBLE to commit, And was very quickly found to be nonexistent. And then STAYED LONG after they knew was legal for them to do so! Bad cops deserve to be punished to the FULLEST FUCKING EXTENT OF THE LAW and you trying to justify the behavior in the video by making pisspoor attempts to redirect attention to the "Good cops"? Fucking makes me wretch food that I ate 3 days ago. You're a disgusting bootlicker who finds .04% of bad Cop incidents acceptable. Cops swore an oath. ANY cop that goes against that oath in the slightest is a bad cop that need to be in prison.
The most important question is: why weren't those nine cops frantically looking for who actually made the 911 call when they realized it did not come from that home. Shouldn't they have been concerned that someone was actually needing their help while they were standing in their harassing someone that they knew did not make the call.
My guess is that there had been no 911 call. The resident mentions at some point that he had an ongoing complaint with Internal Affairs. All those cops were there to show him "who's boss".
Well, I have to admit that it’s really suspicious for people gotten a domestic call, and then when they arrive the man admit that there are other people at home and they just want to do a welfare check, and the man refuses. My aunt was murdered by her husband so call if we did a welfare check after a 911 and only spoke with one person, but not the other... I don’t know. All I’m saying is I would’ve handled the very beginning of all this differently. Everything else I guess. Just the very beginning I would’ve done something different.
@@rai4119 When "the man", or anyone, *knows* for a fact that there's no reason why a 911 call would originate from his address, it's really suspicious that cops show up claiming that a 911 call is the (convenient) reason for them to invade this man's private property (who happens to have an ongoing complaint with internal affairs at their department as he states in the video). What the residents did was to back the cops into a corner when the latter 'admitted' that the call came from a land line, and it turns out that there is no land line at that residence. So... going back to the very beginning, what nonsense is their tracking equipment that cannot correctly locate a call from a *land line* ??!! Only validates the person's defensive stance at telling them to f*ck off from the get-go.
I heard of something similar happening to someone several years back and when the cops realized they were in the wrong house instead of leaving one of the cops got suspicious and asked if they could search the house. When he was told no, the cop asked why not? What are you afraid of if you have nothing to hide? He was immediately answered, "because you cops make a mess and by law you don't have to clean up and put everything back the way you found them after you are done searching, and I just don't feel like doing it either". The cops left.
I hope he files and wins a lawsuit. When they saw there was no landlines they should've left the residence immediately! They were harassing him after they gathered there was no landlines there. If he has filed multiple complaints there should be evidence of retaliatory actions from the officers present.
What tells you that it was proven there were no landlines or even hidden captives. Looks to me like the cops got as far as 5 steps into the door of the residence with multiple rooms. You’re making assumptions.
How do you “see” there are no landlines short of actually searching the residence? Any psycho can claim whatever he wants. And considering you (original commenter) could be in that guys basement, gagged and tied, you should expect more then them taking him on his word.
I'm not against law enforcement, as long as they're with in the law. What i don't understand is... once they're proved to be wrong. Why can't they say, I'm sorry/my apologies. Have a great day...
Legally if they admit they made a mistake they can be sued in civil court as admitted their guilt. By not admiting guilt they can say they did nothing wrong.
@@TyphusVonElder not necessarily, all law enforcement officer's are procted by what they say. With that being said, always know your rights. State law's most importantly use your 5th amendment rights when nessaserry. Be sure to say that you're exercising them. Fire Dept's , EMT's are not procted by what we say.
What makes you think this was a mistake? The cops PLANNED this. There was no '9-1-1 call'. This guy had the sheer audacity to file a complaint against a cop, and this is the kind of retaliatory abuse he can expect from now on. He can expect to be followed and/or pulled over pretty much every time he drives anywhere. He can expect to be harassed in the middle of the night by imaginary 9-1-1 calls from his house. He can expect cops driving back and forth in his neighborhood eying his residence. And it will all continue until a judge decides to step in and tell the police to back off.
it occurs to me that whatever you tell a cop they do the opposite. so you could use that to your advantage. "stay here! yeah i bet you cant leave! im gonna put on some coffee and youre gonna sit here with me all night! youre afraid to get into your car and drive away from here!" i bet they would leave so fast.
I think the key here was when Mr B stated that he had an Internal Affairs complaint against one of the officers present and that this was a retaliatory action. The officer continually shining his light in B's face and obviously laughing under his mask during most of the interaction indicates this could be true.
@@acbulgin2 that doesn’t even make sense it’s your house and they had no reason to be there you could have a field day in court with them if they arrested you for undressing in your own home
@@jonsmet1292 and here's another case of media misleading someone. look at Minneapolis, they abolished their police academy and crime sky rocketed 300%. we need police, and you're genuinely dumb if you think we dont.
These false 911 calls can really screw you over. I had a hostile neighbor nextdoor that had access to one of those old phone company handsets that could tap into the old school land lines. This asshole tapped our line from the distribution box in the alley behind his house and called 911 on our unused landline having his girlfriend pose as my wife saying that I was beating her in the backyard and needed assistance. We came home from eating dinner out to find a yard full of cop cars, 4 to be exact. They immediately separate me and my wife and start questioning us. I insisted to them that I had no landline and only used cell phones. Appraently, even if you dont have an active landline, it can still be used for 911. This could have gone really bad for us. They had a problem with my attitude as well and lingered around seemingly trying to find something to arrest me on. The asswipe nextdoor that was harrassing us ultimately killed himself in a motorcycle accident a year later so karma bit him in the ass hard. I have had very limited exchanges with cops in my 50 years but 90% of them have gone down like this one in the vid. Throwing their weight around and stepping on your rights hoping you arent educated in what your basic rights are.
My interaction with police was very different, but it did leave a very better taste and experience. I was 12 years old and was assaulted by a person who was either 18 or 19 years old. The only thing that cops did is ask me if I did anything to provoke him? They kept asking me the same question over and over. At the end of the day they didn't even put handcuffs on the guy. I wish I had known the law like I do now because I know assault on a minor at least deserves handcuffs. I haven't trust police ever since.
I dont know where you live but in my area a deactivated land line can not call 911, their is no dial tone nor is there power on the line to energize the connection or if you have a modern phone to power the actual buttons. Now a deactivated. cell phone can call 911 were i live.. So before you rely on a land line for 911 you better make sure that works in your area. (note the phone the neighbor used has abilities that a home phone does not so it ,ay be able to use a disconnected line i don't know)
That's the US police for you, it takes nine police officers to register a non-emergency, and even after they knew perfectly well that the call did not come from that house, they said they have to make sure nobody required assistance, AND they mailed HIM a citation. I'm dumbfounded.
He said "I have an internal affairs complaint on one of the sergeants, and this happens, and this is retaliatory!" There is no landline. I do not believe that there was any call.
I’m torn with the beginning of this. I think it’s reasonable that the police ask to speak to any individuals in the home. I would’ve immediately complied to assure them no one was being harmed and hopefully they would’ve gone away
That’s what a smart person would do. Unfortunately this guy’s ego is too big and he loves exercising his rights just for the hell of it. The police could’ve easily left within 5-10 minutes if he wasn’t being a baby.
Actually if a household has multiple people living or staying in it, it is the right of the officers responsibility to check and make sure that no one is in the home hiding or injured. After they secured the home and no one is found injured, they do not have the right to stay there or harrass the people there. I agree that Mr. B is an jerk and has major issues. He did obstruct the officers by not letting them make sure that no one was hurt or there was no in distress there.
I was torn until I heard he has an IA investigation against one of the officers. If they came to my house I’d do what you suggest. In this guys case he knew it was a BS retaliation thing so I can respect him holding his ground.
I have to agree. Partially. I have actually had a situation like this, I called my girlfriend to the door so she could verify that the address they were given was wrong, and all was well. After that, had the police stayed, I would have resorted to calling the county Sherrifs Department. Standing there arguing with a cop that thinks he is right is pointless.
It’s frightening to realize just how much bullsh*t STILL goes on all the time, and especially when people aren’t recording. Everyone is guilty in their eyes.
Imagine the true caller dying in pain meantime while the officers are knowing they are at the wrong house thats without a landline and are trying to power up their egos completely dismissing the importance of a distress call.
Lets for 1 moment assume that this was the house where the call originated from - Murderer denies access to the police officers. Morons like you think they should leave. Luckily they dont. - Murderer has accomplices and they all say "Nah its all fine, there's not even a landline here". Morons like you think the police should take that as a fact, while it could be a lie, both that everyone is okay, and that there's no landline. Police officers needed not only to talk to the people who showed themselves to them, but to check the entire property, as a beaten wife or injured person could be locked up in a bathroom, closet, or something else. "Nah man there's no land line here" when a life might on the line and when someone called to the EMERGENCY LINE would only be believed by an IDIOT without full assurance that everyone is okay in there.
@@benjamindeh873 Or, the cops could check their address, and realized they were in the wrong place. Or, you could take into account ALL the known facts instead of hypothetical and overall useless "what-ifs," such as the fact that he has a complaint with the IA regarding this department, or how they managed to cite him despite him not identifying himself (suggesting this was not accidental as they clearly knew who he was.) But, one would have to be based in reality to conserve facts and complexity. Only the delusional would liberally wave off facts just to make an argument as if it held any validity at all. I suppose when (not if) the police feel it's your turn to be under the boot, I will remember your ignorant defence of tyranny, and will tell the officers to step harder in your case. Let's go Brandon!
@@innocentbystander3317 ...You do know that the cops didnt have all the facts you and I have now when they knocked on the door right? The known FACTS for the officers at that point were: - They have a report of an emergency there. - The person responding the door is aggressive, screaming and agitated. The way he was acting he might as well have beaten his wife 2 minutes ago. Normal intelligent people dont bark like that. Yeah, hindsight is 20/20, now we know they wasted their time, but the only way to know that was to investigate. We do not know if they got the address wrong, or if it was a fake call, or if the caller gave the wrong address. And neither did they at that point. Lets hear you moron, what do you think police procedure should be when you get an emergency call from a residence, and you are denied access? When we KNOW there's both cases when: - Nothing happened, no one needs help - Someone inside needs help, and the attacker is denying access to the police This guy is an imbecile, and he wasted police's time because he is a dumb asshole. The situation took 3-4 times the time it would have taken with an intelligent and decent person. The way he behaved and was all agitated could very easily have been seen as a wife beater hiding what he did to his wife. Police officers had every right and DUTY to be concerned when the moron slammed the door on their faces.
@@benjamindeh873 Report of an emergency where exactly? Now, by "report," are you talking about the location reported by the caller, by the associated address for the caller's phone number, the reported address of the caller in official databases, the address reported by the operator, the address reported by dispatch, or the address as reported by cops in the wrong place? This is such a key detail in your argument, that without a factual proof, makes your entire argument insipid, pointless, and offensively dishonest. Oooh, ad hominem logic? That must be a sign of your superiority, as only the best arguments resort to pure fallacies. Here, let me try: Your an ignorant pe dough file, so you must be wrong. Do you like that? Also a fallacy, meaning it must be true of you, right? It would be hypocritical of you to argue that your not a m.a.p at this point...
10:54 - Okay, NOW, it’s starting to make sense. Up until that point, I was thinking this guy was being totally unreasonable, blowing the whole thing outta proportion, and acting suspicious. Now, I can understand why he wouldn’t want to play their games.
Exactly, it clicked at that point for me too. They were tryin to show their force and intimidate him especially when they showed up with 7 additional officers
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The number of police officers that were in the home by the end of the situation is ludicrous. For "the people" to be expected to pay for such Idiocracy is unacceptable. These officers were pompous tyrants. I would be interested in knowing where the phone call actually originated.
You say that the police are not obliged to take BB's word as regards the well-being of the other occupants, but the only reason they have to believe there ARE other occupants is BB's word.
Just gonna say I know a lot of people who make accidental calls and just barely get a call back.( including SOS button on phones) mind you I reside in the Great Lake area
Ok you guy do a good job but y'all really need to point out how acting like an AZZ escalates situations. All he had to do was tell the people in the house to come and talk to the cops, its not cool to make things difficult for people who's job it is to find out if everything is okay.
I like how they just forget about the person who actually needed help if that person even existed
How obvious does it have to be that one of the cops called it in or just falsely claimed there was even a call in the first place?
They were trying to provoke a reaction. Sending him a ticket was a childish affront by those clowns.
The health of their egos is much more important than the health of a citizen. If a home invasion was happening in plane sight next door, they would ignore it and stay to argue.
@@sonny0888 absolutely, and why are there ten of them just standing around!
Simply because they all have to take turns flexing their "corruption" muscle!!!
it never existed, it was a retaliation for a complain on internal affairs, it is mentioned on the video.
Meanwhile the guy who actually called for help: "WERE THE HELL IS THE POLICE IM DYING"
Shoot lol they probably dead, imagine if these clowns were the only thing keeping you between life and death.
They don't exist. This was harassment.
@@Vespyr_ why?
What purpose?
Who is this guy that these cops, as bad as they are, would want to falsify a hang up call, just to have a look around?
@@rd9669 If that were Miami. They'd also steal your shit.
It was a lie. They were just harassing him.
What concerns me about this is even after the officers had spoken with everyone in the apartment, all of whom stated they did not call 911, and the officers found out there was no land line to the apartment, they still wouldn't leave. Instead more officers arrived, nine in total. There may actually be someone somewhere needing their assistance but they chose to remain there trying to intimidate the resident instead of trying to find out if the was someone in need of help.
in the first minutes I sided with the officers, with the way the resident refused to cooperate after the cop said exactly what he was there for.
That opinion shifted quickly though
They could have been in and out of that apartment within two minutes by simply calling the landline phone number to confirm or deny that they were in the wrong place. But we’re talking about leos here, so, yup they chose the hard way.
@@Baer1990 same. If there is a 911 call and one guy says no one called there very well could be a tied up person or a dead body inside. I get that. But, once you know and you are still soul hurt because someone was mean to you, the understanding and sympathy goes out the window.
It was never about making sure ever one is ok. They don't care about any one, all they want to do is excerpt force onto other ppl. Makes no difference to them if its a criminal or not.
So how did the cops know for certain there was no landline in the house? Did they search the house top to bottom?
this happened to me years ago. the police show up in the middle of the night insisting that a call had been placed. they immediately asked for my husband who had gotten into it with the chief a week before. they insisted on searching my home to make sure he wasnt there and everyone was ok. after an hour arguing with them (my husband was out of town and no call had been made) they finally tell me the call was about a woman and her stepdaughter fighting. i was like WHY are you looking for my husband then? this was confusing to me so i told them i was done and went inside. never heard another word about it. i did notice that the chief was parked on the road watching the whole thing.
Then you should've hired an attorney and pursued the matter in court in order to receive a settlement for retaliation. This sounds so wrong and unjust what this chief did to you.
@@vigorousboredom7016 I actually did go to an attorney after a couple of incidents we had with him. He even tried to have us evicted. But I couldn't afford it so I let it go. A few years later he got fired and was under investigation for malfeasance in office. I we weren't the only ones he messed with.
Jesus so much corruption
Prideful cops are such a waste of tax dollars
@@newt3695check the statute of limitations, if it hasn't expired find an attorney that gets paid when you get paid. There are plenty of those bloodthirsty sharks in the waters
As long as police can legally lie, how can a citizen truly know they're being honest and concerned about your safety?
I think the only way to know for sure they’re being honest is if they flat out told you that they don’t give 2 shits about your safety.
@Real actual not fake fact checkers Qualified immunity stops all remedies to justice. Demand commitments from candidates seeking office. maybe a national fired-for-cause cop registry would be helpful.
I would be interested what a FOIA would reveal about the "alleged" 911 call in and of itself. Like did it happen, is the number registered to that address, or was it a ruse to search the home as retaliation for the aforementioned complaint filing?
Why can't pass an act to prevent them lying.
@@KamakNeApiMalimawata Like the excessive force ones?
This all comes down to the fact that the vast majority of cops can’t handle being wrong or people questioning their authority.
So true.
They are used to getting away with stuff. It's like a spoiled child who gets everything they want, then the one time the parent says no, they flip.
100%.
Amen🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Sadly they take this mentality home to their wives and children.
So they confirmed that the call was not from the house they were in, but instead of immediately turning their investigation to finding out where the call was from, they continue to argue with the homeowner? Why can they never accept when a mistake is made, just apologise and move on?
Why aren't they all charged with trespass? They were told to leave private property when there was no reason for them to be there.
Because their ego won't let them.
Because their bullshit jurisdiction said it was okay. Any other place would constitute it as trespassing.
We can't know what other police officers may have been doing to investigate this, because it was - obviously - elsewhere.
Very well said! Couldn't of said it better myself. I agree that cops and departments have such a hard time admitting mistakes, wrong doings etc.
Cops cant possibly admit when they F up. They are above "civilians".
I had an officer knock on my door for the same reason. He said it was a landline and I told him I had never had a landline hooked up and he said ok sorry for the disturbance and left. These cops were way out of line and ridiculous.
See he did his job.... he checked the number before hand. Noticed they did it after
The thing to keep in mind is that there are actually three sides to this coin.
There is you, the innocent citizen caught up in police trying to enter your home.
There is the police officer who has a job to do.
AND there is the criminal who kidnapped a child and is hiding them in their house.
The police don't know if you are an innocent citizen or a criminal. Their job is, first and foremost, to insure the safety of the kidnapping victim, so they must take any and all reasonable steps to do so.
You might be a criminal. Or they might have the wrong address. Or it might have been a fake call. But in a situation where a person may end up dead, they can't just take your word for it.
HOWEVER, having said that, I absolutely think there needs to be stronger 4th amendment protections for an innocent citizen in that situation. The police show up, announce it is an exigent search related to X/Y/Z, are granted immediate entry to the house, but are only permitted a visual search of the entire premises, they are not allowed to touch anything, can not gather ANY evidence for anything beyond the purpose of the call, can be escorted by the property owner, and MUST leave as soon as it is satisfactorily demonstrated that the exigent circumstance was false. Oh, and the person is absolutely free to follow up on the call that triggered the search, and if the call does not support the search then they can pursue legal satisfaction for an unjustified 4th amendment violation.
Law enforcement and police protection is a balancing act between the rights and protections of the innocent citizen on one side, and the obligations of the police and the right of people to be protected from crime on the other side. Right now we have a problem because they are no longer trying to find a balance, there are cases where they just say "screw the rights/protections of innocent citizens, cops are just going to do what they want", and they are not being held accountable for violating people's rights.
This has a knock on effect in that because cops are getting away with crimes, people no longer trust cops when it comes to legitimate actions either (like this one where they had legitimate reason to enter the home, even though they overstayed their authority afterward).
@@TwilightMysts Most of this irrelevant to this situation. They could find out that the call did not come from this house, so the entry shouldn't happen. And once that mistake was realized they should be out. There's nothing more to it. Yes, if a 911 call comes from a house, then be thorough and don't just listen to the one who opens the door. But that isn't this situation. They only had a "reason to enter" from incompetence. They got a landline call from a house that doesn't have a landline...
@@ghetifal
In reverse order
The police need to either verify that the call is not legitimate, that they are mistaken, or they need to rescue the person making the emergency call. Their records were likely outdated, but they don't know that. And as you pointed out, they can't take the resident's word for it. They can reach out to the phone company, but that could take anywhere from hours to weeks and if it was a legitimate call, the victim may not have that long. So their only real option was to move forward until they could confirm that the house in question was not a concern.
As for the other part, It is absolutely relevant since I was addressing police doing forced entry into homes under exigent circumstances, and comparing the requirements of police in a legitimate emergency against the necessary protections of innocent residents when it was not a legitimate emergency or the police make a mistake. Mistakes happen. Cops could have bad information, they could write down the wrong home number, the phone company may not have given them current information, or it could be a bored teenager or vindictive coworker trying to swat them.
So fundamentally it comes down to the question of how do you balance the rights of crime victims vs the rights of innocent home owners. Again, how is that not relevant to a video where police raid a home of innocent people based on an emergency call?
@@TwilightMystsit wouldn’t matter if there was a murdering running around the police have no right to do what they did.
All you need to know is that he never identified himself yet received a citation in the mail...proving they knew him and that this was retaliation for his IA complaint.
Oho, someone capable of basic logic. Very well done, and quite a solid step as well. Occam's razor was expertly applied! Kudos to you, good sir.
So true!!!
Your right holy shit!
Uh bro they came to his house.. all you need is an address to mail stuff lol
@@maxc1830 you can't give someone a fine without knowing thier name is point. They 100% knew who he was and decided to try and be bullies in the situation.
The whole thing changed in my opinion once I learned that he had a recent "issue" with a sergeant. It seems like retaliation to me.
@@venwik5278 youre giving WAY TOO MUCH benefit of the doubt. more research is needed on your part.
@@venwik5278 it couldn’t have been a burner phone, it was a landline phone number and they found out there is no landline in the house. This completely dissolves your claims
@@jacksonmoree4335 To be fair, they "said" there was no landline. Could've easily lied.
100% 👍
@@TheHockey991 the cops knew the number as they repeated it back to the resident Brian. Simple solution is to call that number, no ring, no phone. Bye bye piggies.
Brian has an open and shut case for police misconduct and violation of his 4th Amendment Right.
The only problem I have with this is they didn't leave after finding out everything was OK and there was no landline.
100%. Disgusting and calls into question the cops conduct on th whole.
Why do you think they found that out? Because he said so?
The fact that the home had no land line is evidence that suggests that the call was a completely fictitious fabrication. I don't believe their excuse for invading that home would be upheld in a federal court.
Makes sense they have extra duty to check others considering abuse scenarios, but dang i thought BB got rushed to the ground.
Because the truth and safety isn't what they were after. They are power tripping low lives.
Dude, the cop he had a beef with was 110% who dropped the dime here. He needs to sue the living daylights out of these thugs. With the act of “swatting”and caller ID spoofing prevalent these days, these types of welfare checks need to seriously be looked at for being legislated out of existence. It’s just too easy to throw aside the 4th A over a bogus call!!!
Them arguing with him when there was still someone who could of been in distress and actually needed there “help” is probably the worst part of this
Their*
@@skulkerbro7603 no you're wrong, their is possessive while there is used in a general term (placement etc)
Don't try to correct someone when you're just in the wrong
Edit: I didn't realise there was a second "there" that was actually wrong. My bad lmao
Still thought it's rude to correct someone, don't think you're better or more central because that's just snobby and narcissistic
@@RiverStiix it's snobby to use more then 2 brain cells when writing a comment?
@@skulkerbro7603 no it's snobby to go out of your way to correct someone and most likely make them feel bad. Think before you speak man.
@@RiverStiix if you feel bad because someone corrected your use of the American English language you're too soft. Also, using your logic wouldn't it be just as much of a dick move to tell someone they're wrong just to realize they were still correct?
Whenever cops get caught screwing up they awkwardly try to strike this balance of resolving their screw up, but also retaining their sense of power and superiority and it's always super clumsy.
Exactly, why not just apologize? Hey sorry man, we got an emergency call, had to check if someone was being held against their will, lots of psychos and what not. Have a good night sir, bye! Like so simple
@@carlottamutelesi2562 The answer is simple. Ego. I feel like the job attracts people with overinflated egos
My dad was a cop for 31 years and you hit the nail on the head about almost every interaction I've had with him. He's never apologized to me in my life, ever. Not once. Didn't teach me to shave, didn't teach me about sex, but has ALL these loud opinions as to how I need to live my life. When caught in the wrong he has to maintain the look of his ego and pride while tactically changing the subject or finding some other avenue to try for switching blame to the other person.
I disowned him, because really, who needs to deal with that? F that.
Cops need (better) training on how to separate their ego from a situation, and how to admit and acknowledge when they've done wrong.
@@gr33dyglutton My barber has more training to wield a comb and pair of scissors than cops need to wield a badge and gun.
When he said he had a complaint to Internal Affairs, the whole picture was revealed. This whole thing was retaliatory and trying to provoke an arrestable offense. No wonder the resident was hostile out of the gate, this wasn't his first run-in with unreasonable police.
Yup
Yup, totally unreasonable of the police to want to make sure everybody in the house was okay. Would've been a shame had this dude just got done beating the shit out of his wife, then he says everything is fine, and the officers are just like "okay sounds good have a good night".
Sentiments exactly!!! This whole entire planet needs to be remade.
@@Kevin-gq8dz yet they wear cloths on their face to "stop a virus". These thugs are nothing more than tyrants. Just doing "what they're told" instead of what is right and more lawful. Police get what they deserve. They serve and protect government and corporations. Period.
@@ClawDogVending Congrats for writing such in irrelevant comment. Go play with your Legos and Donald Trump action figure.
Half of the department was there even after knowing that this was the wrong house . Sad for the person who actually called for help.
No one called for help. it was fictional, to get into his house.
It's called flexing. It's called petty. It's called power trip.
@@hemmojito Yeah, and it’s also called sociopathy.
Once the cops learned they were at the wrong place, and that all occupants were fine, they should've just apologized and left.
What about getting to the place where the 911 call actually csme from?
They way this played out, it's suspicious.
Let me tell you a secret, there was no actual 911 call.
It was called harrasment .
It was retaliation
@@robertbennett2796 something personal for sure
Guarantee they harass this guy, everyone in the house, and their families. That’s why they wanted all their info.
Cops raiding the wrong house or without warrant happens a lot more than people realize - dangerously more.
Good thing he was white.
Happens daily
Man, tell that to Daniel Shaver. Oh gosh, my bad; you can’t because the cops murdered him in front of his wife and best friend. He desperately tried to follow their confusing as fuck, legit impossible directions all the while sobbing and begging them not to kill him, and in response to his anguished pleas they effectively forced him to play a game of Twister in a field laden with land mines at gunpoint while drunk. He lost, and they fucking executed him in the hallway in front of his loved ones. I totally get your point about us(black lives) being disproportionately affected by police brutality and murder but the cemetery is also filled with the bodies of our fellow white citizens as well.
@@pugachevskobra5636?????
you really need to tag who you're responding to, and like, yeah, that happens, it still doesn't change that had he been black, the odds that he would have been killed are a lot higher and that white people escape death in these scenarios a lot easier than others
he wouldn't have survived here had he been black, it's not a pissing contest or some kind of opression bux lottery, nothing is gained by trying to out-victim people.
X and Y do not have to endlessly be compared, it's deceptive at best to respond to any notice or consciously register how depressingly different this would have been under different circumstances by bringing up a time where an unhinged sociopath used his power to execute an inebriated man at a hotel, who happened to be white.
not bringing that up isn't some snubbing of judicial misdeeds to other demographics.
it's not a fuckin competition.
"scary to think how this would have gone if the victim had been black"
*koolaid man bursts through wall* "YOU'RE IGNORING THAT COPS ALSO KILL WHITE PEOPLE, LET ME BRING UP IN EXCRUCIATING DETAIL WHEN A WHITE MAN WAS KILLED BY POLICE TO SHAME YOU OR SOMETHING"
@@mikejb2009a
Thank heavens he was a pale face.
He would’ve got hurt.
I disagree with your C- rating. Once they stopped being restrained by the law they immediately deserve an F for harassing the guy when they knew there was no danger.
Also the fact they pinned him with an obstruction and other stuff. Like fucking hell that's some damn bullshit. I hope he can successfully sue them.
@@GarrettCARROTZ
Well, he did try to slam the door in their faces when they had a right to confirm the situation. The person's own ignorance of the law made the situation ten times worse and then everyone wants to act like the cops are the bad guys.
@@Beetlesiri They are the bad guys. They were at the wrong place.
@@thenightingale7405
Why though? There was a phone number linked to the wrong address. Maybe it was intentionally done to harass the homeowner, but that is besides the point. As a 911 call they had a right to check the occupants of the home and the man wanted to refuse them that right out of his own ignorance. He did commit obstruction by trying to prevent the officers from checking the home. In fact they could go inside and check every room if they wanted to be real assholes. The homeowner decided to act like a big dog and run his mouth when this whole incident could have been over in a fraction of the time. The homeowner was not even in the right except when he refused to identify himself.
@@Beetlesiri If somebody made a similar call on Jeff Bezos, would they go into his house?
11:54 gives me chills, "if any one is need of assistance."
5 cops deep on a suspected hang up, all staring you down step by step forcing themselves further into your residence. No land line in sight, no hurry to leave and find the supposed person who placed the call.
Just so gross, that they can just stand there like that.
And embarrassingly enough they can check for land lines on the outside of the house...or simply call the number back that called 911 and see what happens
The coppers look like they need assistance going up and down stairs
@@A_Stereotypical_Hereticthis would have been the easiest solution
The fact 9 officers showed up makes it an F for the entire department.
But but but we are understaffed!!
How many officers should have responded?
@@genedandrea7710 why?
@Jacob Thompson youre crazy
Cops need to have at least 3-1 odds to trample rights.
Imagine if the original 911 caller died waiting for the police while they were completely occupied at the mistaken address after the mistake was clearly known by all the police.
They will be bust the door down
There was likely no 911 call in the first place. Mr B mentioned in the video that he had a complaint escalated to an IA investigation on several New Brunswick officers so I don't have much trouble believing this was simply a retaliatory action against him - plain old police harassment.
But yeah, I get the sentiment completely. Police officer's egos seem to routinely interfere with their duties to citizens.
There was no call
I can only start with an assessment of you. You are unaware of how 911's operate. I am not an operator but have seem calls handled. EVERYTHING they can get is entered into a system - the one i have seen is CAD, computer aided dispatch. If the operator died. another operator would know what had happened. The stupidity I see here is both mind boggled and scary. I was unaware people were this stupid.
@@SHANEIZOID And you know that - HOW? As an aside, there are several key things that were ignored by the Audit. First, the no land line answer is 10000 to one likely to be bogus. Land line addresses are GOOD, unlike cells. That home has a land line. He lied. Second, his word that there is nobody but the 3 is not good enough to leave. This is how imprisioned kis and adults have been held long after police have been alerted, did a door check and left. His sorry butt should have been pulled out the door, face down and they did a walk through and closet check for others. Nothing he said was credible.
The fact that he has a current complaint within Internal Affairs sheds a major light on this encounter.
As another user pointed out, the fact that he refused to identify himself yet still recieved a citation in his name suggests they knew exactly who he was and were in fact retaliating under pretense.
These cowards of oath-breaking traitors can't even be honest about oppressing people. How pathetic!
Anyway, dont forget to offer them a blindfold when you all put em against the wall. You are going to do that, arent you? No? Oh, well then, enjoy your community police then. You deserve it!
Internal Affairs, Eternal Justifications, no difference.
Yep, explains the entire bs episode.
How?
The guy is being deliberately obstinate and aggressive, and I think the police were perfectly justified in not letting him slam the door in their faces. As to his current Internal Affairs complaint, since he never identifies himself, we have no way of knowing whether this claim is true or not, and if it is, whether the complaint is legitimate. His attitude screams of someone who really, REALLY wants to start a fight with the police. That being said, the obstruction ticket probably won't stick. After they had verified the call didn't come from the apartment and he refused to identify himself, they should have left. They are probably in the wrong for that.
@Innocent Bystander The fact that he received a citation in his name in no way means they knew who he was before hand, they could very easily have looked up who was resident in the home after they left.
I love the way they write him a ticket just because he made them mad and stood up for his rights welcome to the Injustice system.
I agree the cops were wrong, but I’d give him a ticket just for being a Jersey kid. I really hate it.
@brendencarlson9558 Thank God you're not a cop.
This is exactly what cops do. When they realized they’ve made a mistake, they try to provoke you into an arrestable offense to cover their asses.
Is that their way of saying, "D'oh!"
@@bigred3164 so true!
They could've forcibly removed these 4th Amendment violating tyrants from his home and it would have been perfectly legal! How did you rate this a C-???????? They were trespassing once they were dispelled. This was completely retaliatory and is an F.
And then they fine you anyway, like theses goons did.
The kid was being a dick from the start too. If he had been polite and explained the situation none of it would have happened. He was hostile right from the start, that NEVER is going to go well with police. Honestly, if they BELIEVE a 911 call was made from the house, and you are being hostile and saying no you can't speak to the other people here what do you expect them to conclude?
Proof there was no 911 call… once they “verified” the call didn’t come from this guy’s apartment they didn’t spend one second trying to find the original call.
This! The person would be dead if they truly needed help....
Apparently the call as from a landline phone which could not have come from this house as there was NO landline there
@@terranceprice7006
Most likely it never existed
This is what I was thinking. As soon as they realized it wasn’t this house why did they not make efforts to find the house the supposed landline is actually registered to??
Gross incompetence or a setup
@@10bd1 I think it was a setup because of his internal affair complaint on that department. It makes more sense after he received a retaliatory ticket for obstructing.
I remember one time the cop's came to my house and said we where hiding a run away kid so they didnt need a warrant to enter, once they searched and found no kid they proceeded to fish and go thru drawers, cabinets started to go thru all of our item's and one of them said " I wouldn't be surprised if we found drug's around here" complete disrespect and abuse of power.
cops will try anything 😭
I had the SAME exact thing happen to me after my daughter's friend ran away from home.
Any drugs found would of been tainted fruit of evidence as they were not there with a warrant to specifically search for drugs... even in plain sight
That is 100% wrong of the police, but it’s also 100% not the same thing as the video
NEVER give them consent to search you
Ah man, you get an F for this one, guaranteed there was never a 911 call at all. They were doing this to harass the guy because he had an internal affairs complaint.
The way I understood it, he hadn't before the incident. Rather, what he meant was, that he's going to complain about the first cop - whom he asked for the badge number.
You have proof of this? You’re too high on auditor fumes, sometimes cops should do they’d damn jobs
@@OtoskireThey should definitely do ‘they’d’ damn jobs.
@@ChaChaDubs indeed
The irony of the persistence and wasted time after discovering they're at the wrong address is there was still a person that dialed 911 and possibly needed assistance.
instead of helping the actual caller, 9 cops were needed to intimidate this man
Yes I hope they were ok
For real though. Straight little d energy.
After they came in and the cop admitted it was not from that house, they should of left there house, there ago and the almighty authority would not let it go, they tried escalate, bully, intimidate, under the guise of routine and i have no doubt that they were looking for one thing to happen where they would jump on him and hit the stop resisting button on there mouths and all the other incriminating phrases in there bag of tricks to make this man a criminal and them be justified in harming and violating his rights
Cops are only ever looking for people to assault or harass. Sure, they started the night out looking for the source of the 911 call to satisfy their appetite, but once they found Mr. B, they then had their target/victim. The 911 call became irrelevant! Probably left the scene and proceeded to arrest an innocent young black man a couple blocks down.
It went from "checking on public welfare", to "showing WE do what WE want" real fast. The cops main objective here was to prove that they answer to no one, regardless of the law. But, we knew that didn't we ?
How True !
Sadly that's the same everywhere in the world
@@tokiohotel0O LMAO
True
@Ghetto 6 Fargo North Third world country mindset.
After speaking with the occupants of the residence, a case can be made that the number one priority of the police officers was NOT the 911 call.
No it became the black guy white girl
Did they speak with the occupants? I didn't see that. Only him.
“Why are you in my house?”
“🥺We were worried about you, citizen”
"The all seeing eye is concerned for your well being citizen 😰"
It's so obvious whenever cops realize they've screwed up: they call for more cops to come and stand with them.
Gang warfare
Wish I could get paid to stand around with my bois
Mr B acting super hostile. I’d want some back up too.
@@caseylee6441 super hostile by telling him to leave the house after conducting his investigation?
@@notyourdad9548 no. By yelling from the moment the arrived on scene
"Departmental policies do not equate to legal obligation". That's actually pretty profound.
Another one I heard from a judge was: Your duty does not create the legal authority to ignore rights. Or some such. Ugh, I wish I remembered the details of the case.
@@ashkebora7262 I like that one, too. Awful day and age that a judge actually has to remind a police officer of this, but kudos to the judge for doing so.
In other words just because a police department creates a policy, it doesn’t make it legal
Wait, what? Cop: "It's a landline, okay?" Citizen: "There's no landline here." Cop: "There's still one registered to this house." My question is. If there is no landline at that house then where the hell did the 9-11 call come from? Oh. Now I get it. He has filed a complaint against one of them. Definitely looks like retaliation to me. The obstruction ticket in the mail is more proof of that. First thing I would do is FOIA that 9-11 hangup call.
I was thinking there potentially could be something totally fucked with their 9-1-1 system, one has to wonder how many other numbers that are coded to a certain address in their system area actually completely inaccurate addresses. Kinda scary to think about if you actually did need police but couldnt talk for whatever reason, you can call from your landline and they would have no way to track your call to actually find ya
This happens way more often than you think. Chances are the last owners of the house didnt file their new address with the government which happens all the time but carried their old phone number with them.
@@Figgy20000 or he had a portable land line device. Those actually exist. Huawei makes them.
@@yagamijubei28 He'd have to know the number associated with the address to use one. These folks don't strike me as those who would want a landline. Used to work for a telcom and we had a special team that dealt with phantom 911 calls (largely to avoid the company getting fined).
My guess is it was a ghost call after a power blip. Unless they were dumb enough to actually plug a phone in on a prank and made the call. But with no service, the phone line should have been unhooked at the switch. Unless they rent and the landlord kept one active for some reason...or they had an alarm...
The more I think about it, the more I think an investigation from the telcom's side would yield some 'interesting' data.
If they left, they'd be held accountable for any negative event after.
100% F on those cops, they were certainly trespassing once it was clear they had no reason to be there and were asked in no uncertain terms to leave.
Wow, this happened to me! My wife and I were making dinner when a cop knocked on our door. It completely surprised us because we live basically in the woods. He said there was a 911 call from this address and he had to check it out. We told him no one here called. He insisted that someone in the house called and we explained that we were making dinner and there were no issues. It was later determined that a neighbor woman had an emergency only cell phone and inadvertently activated it. The officer never forced his way into our home however. As a matter of fact, we tried to help him solve the mystery because he was very nice about the whole thing. This demonstrated the flaw in their tracing of calls. It was also an example of how working with the public, instead of against them can lead to a better outcome.
Reading these comments is like listening to ghost stories around a campfire
But now I read your whole story, I am relieved. It started out scary!
That is likely how this would have gone if this Brian B wasn't being a dick. For all the officers knew, 911 was being called because of him and his actions and, as stated in the above video, could not dutifully take him at his word that everyone was fine. He took the first opportunity to start cussing and name calling over a simple wellness check stemming from a 911 call that was unfortunately mistraced to Brian B's location. That being said, there was no excuse to longer in the house well after it was established that nothing was wrong despite being asked/told to leave.
@@sevenfjell118 That is often the case with these videos. The defendant/subject of the video skirts the line of being cooperative and exercising their rights. Usually their tone is not friendly. This leads the cops involved to also not be friendly. That said, there are quite a number of videos on this channel of the cop being a blatant idiot and abuser of authority however. Also, if you're a cop, then you shouldn't be the type to immediately stoop to the level of the person you're investigating. Personally I feel that the "hostile but legal citizen" type draws out those with patience and attitude issues which might have done something worse further on down the line. If someone being irritable causes you to break protocol and perhaps even the law, you shouldn't be a cop.
@@CrizzyEyes 100% agree. However I don't think that's very applicable in this particular instance. The officers remained respectful when Brian B was, in fact, in the wrong when he denied and subsequently attempted to block their entrance. Brian B only became justified in his behavior once it was established that the 911 call did not originate in his home and the officers failed to leave. I would also argue that the officers remained calm and collected even when they crossed over to the point where they were the ones in the wrong. But the calm and collected demeanors don't excuse them violating his rights by staying and insisting on additional information he was not legally obligated to provide once they had established the 911 call was traced inaccurately.
I will say this, I paid a visit to Brian B's TH-cam page after watching this video. He's in his own comments section saying "ACAB" and telling people to "stop deepthroating the boot" when they simply point out that for all he knows, something was a very routine traffic stop. Brian B presents himself as being very anti-cop and that's all well and good with me, personally. However, it does show that he entered this particular interaction looking for his moment to be a tough guy with a cop.
He's 100% correct. A fake 911 call to try to intimidate someone that already has a complaint filed. That is not a coincidence.
See and people sleep on that
That was very sharp of you
shit like this makes my blood boil, goddamnit i hate fking cops
What? I don't understand.
Oh, Brian B. had previously filed a complaint? I missed that part.
Ok, yeah, I heard that, but I thought he was talking about this incident. Sheesh, cops are scary af
There could have been no actual "call". The cops already know of him from the IA complaint. Smells of harassment. The ticket days later is the cherry on top.
Yea, sure, they randomly just chose a home with the argument that someone there called there's a disturbance there... Just randomly...
I would suspect you are correct.
@@realkrzaku
Who said anything was "random?"
@@realkrzaku They do! Do your research. I worked in law enforcement for over a decade.
Yeah like at first I was giving these cops the benefit of the doubt and considered they may have had reason to bust in since they had possible reason to believe there could have been a danger, but by the second half of the video they lost me. Like the fact that they have a history with this guy and that the supposed call didn't actually come from the damn house is very suspicious. Even if there was a legitimate call, after they busted in a confirmed that everyone was definitely ok, they should have immediately admit they were wrong and corrected their actions by leaving immediately. Yet they stayed and demanded information they had zero right to and continued wasting these people's time. Their Ego's could not handle the idea of them being in the wrong and tried to justified themselves even though no one was asking. Truly sickening behavior here.
As someone who was present for a situation similar to this where a friend accidentally butt dialed 911 and hung up. I asked the cop what number the 911 call came from, figured out who it belonged to and tossed them outside to deal with the cops. It worked surprisingly well.
What scares me the most about this one is the fact that there was an emergency called and no-one is trying to figure out where that is.. they are too busy in this guy's house fighting him and for what?
They have no way of figuring it out other than telling dispatch that the address is incorrect. It's up to dispatch to do more research as to where the call came from. What do you want them to do, go knocking door to door in what may be the complete wrong side of town for hours and hours until they just so happen to find the person?
In my opinion, they made that up because he already lodged a complaint against them before and this is retaliation
@@sparkplug._ None of them told dispatch that the adress was incorrect though. The very least they could have done was PISS OFF once they were sure that this wasn't the place. What do you expect them to do? Telepathically tell dispatch the adress is wrong and then stay at his place watching TV until dispatch told them the correct place?
@@EskChan19 The police definitely made some pretty bad mistakes in this situation. I didn't notice if they had told dispatch or not but that should've definitely been step one. And one they were sure it wasn't the home then they definitely should've left. They were there for much longer than they reasonably or legally should've been. I agree with all of that.
The main thing I don't agree with that most people say in this situation is that the cops should've just left when the person who answered the door said everyone is ok and tried to make them leave. If you're harming someone and holding them against their will in your house then obviously you're not going to tell the cops about it when they knock on your door.
EDIT: The other thing I have a big issue with is people saying the cops were 100% wrong and the resident was 100% right. The cops were wrong, but the resident was fighting the cops the whole way when they were trying to make sure everyone was safe and get the landline officially disassociated from the house. The resident did have his rights violated, but he did almost everything he could to make the situation harder for the officers and himself. If the resident had been professional (not even kind, but professional) with the officers and given them a reasonable amount of information while still withholding the information he legally didn't have to provide then the situation would've almost definitely been resolved much more quickly and easily.
@@sparkplug._ But he's not a professional. He doesn't have training. End of story.
10:49 " I have an internal affairs complaint on one of the sargents ..."
Thus we have the real answer - a cop "claimed", fraudulent, "911 call from a land line" , that isn't at this address...
The cops decided a fake 911 call would be a good harassment measure to attack the guy and his family at his home, since he complained about one of their sargents. THE COPS SELF SWATTED THIS GUY.
Good catch! I didn't realize that was a statement of past tense. "I 'already' have an internal affairs complaint......" BINGO!!!!!
I still don't understand: how do they know that there is no landline in the house? Just because he says it? I may missed it
@@jonaseschle1104 I think the cops made up the land line. The people living there didnt set one up and even if there was one before, the number shouldnt be useable for a call. It'd be listed on the house's info they probably had so they prob made it up assuming they had once since it was there they moved in
I would want the cops to check on every one in the property because there have been plenty of cases where victims of domestic violence have called 911 and hung up. If the cops had just ignored those calls, there'd be more dead victims of intimate partner violence and kidnappings. He should have just allowed them to speak to *everyone* in the property. Once the police clarified that no one had phoned, then they should have left the property. Anything after them verifying that no one was in danger is harassment on their part.
I'm surprised John didn't comment on that part. That also could've been a reason for Mr. B's hostility towards the officers.
The moment they spoke with everyone and refused the leave they went from arguably police to armed home invaders.
Yea but they are "above the law". That's law enforcment's motto.
Masked up thugs in your living room and they won't leave.
ya with video evidence of clear invading after reason, should be legal to shoot back
Absolutely... before... it could have been very well a hostage or domestic situation... someone speaking for the whole household when someone could have called and not been able to talk... but as soon as the spoke with everyone they should have left. Period.
@@bensbikex510 I think masked up thugs would have done a lot more than got your floor a little dirty and hurt your feelings.
The cops were initially in their right and could reasonnably be suspicious about this guy's behaviour. But after they figured out the call didn't originate from the house and everyone was safe it just turned to harassement. All the while the person who actually called 911 was potentially still in need of help...
THe fuck they were. It's the middle of the night, if I didn't call for anyone, I'm not answering the door!
No they weren't. It was a landline. That means police know if it's the right address or not.
You can’t just say “no one called 911” and then close the door on responding officers.
Otherwise, kidnappers, sex trafficers, bugalrers, rapist, and murderers could just hang up their victims’ 911 calls and then tell officers to leave whenever they arrive.
Is this what you would want to happen if you, or someone you loved, were ever in one of those hypothetical victims’ positions??
I just don't understand why he wouldn't let the cops talk to the others in the house, it would have given the police no reason to be so suspicious and enter his house.
@@calvinsellers1036bullshit
Officer "I need a warrant"
Judge "What for?"
Officer "So that we can enter the house to explain why we were there"
The biggest concern yet is why TF the officers weren't in a bigger urgency to find the ACTUAL origin of the phone call if there actually was an emergency at another location.
That’s how you know it was a bogus call.
Exactly. If it was indeed a landline then dispatch would know the correct address.
Yeah exactly they made a really big deal of iy being a 911 call and yet no concern of helping that person after the cops made the mistake guess that's what pride and ego does wtf happens in there training seriously 🙄
Maybe because the first person to say, “nobody called, go away, no you can’t investigate” is probably the one with the tied up kid in their basement, not the person that say, “sure come on in, I’m just back here chopping people up.”
Judging by the video we’re provided, the police made it all of about 5 steps into the residence with multiple other rooms and doors.
@@thisisIvixis Okay, then the police need to come back with a warrant or, if they're willing to risk a lawsuit for violation of rights, barge into the house and search anyways
Completely glossed over the claimed internal affairs / retaliatory angle. With how these guys conducted themselves, it should have had more weight. Also, lets talk about how there are 9 officers burning tax dollars while a 911 hang-up actually goes unanswered.
My thoughts exactly. How do they justify wasting time at this house while somebody could potentially be in danger. “We need your name” What you need to Do is take your little overweight boy band to the right house and see what the problem is.
If there even WAS a 911 hangup to begin with. I am not saying there wasn't, just that the possibility exists.
Glossed over? Was it even addressed?
How the fuck did they go on an ego trip when the real 911 call got no response?!?!?
@@artifexhuman because the hang up was probably fraudulent.
A land line from a house that has no land line involving a guy with an internal affairs complaint against the police. Sounds shady and worth investigating.
I had a crazy neighbor that kept complaining about noise, call the cops on us at like 2:30am when my wife and I were asleep since midnight. The cops had to come inside my home to check if my wife was okay, because someone called in noises of domestic violence. smh
I grew up in that town, moved away about 4 years ago and lemme tell you. I didn’t notice how corrupt it really was until then. The cops most likely did do this out of retaliation for him because of the amount of gang mentality and nepotism that police force has.
I wonder how so many of them showed up. They must have been waiting around the corner. Scary
@@christopherwellman2364 when I got stopped, I had 4 squad cars surround the street. They have nothing better to do most of the time and are just there for intimidation purposes.
@@xyz12345457 it is retaliation he said he had an internal affairs complaint
@@NamoromaN I had 6 cars and 10 cops when I got stopped for having a tail light out on my motorcycle. It was on the good end of town too. I wish I had body cam footage from that, it was insane. They wound up not giving me a ticket but made me wait on the side of the road at 1 am until I could get someone to pick me up. They kept driving by every 2 minutes to make sure I hadn't left.
@@utjason8 :
I get that having a tail light out is more dangerous on a motorcycle, but at that point, they might as well have taken you and your bike to AutoZone, and saved you all a good deal of time!
This was 100% a retaliation. Guy has internal affairs going after the Sargent. They were sent to falsely enter to find anything they can incriminate b with. This is actually really scary.
I'm guessing a no win no fee lawyer would be all over this case.
9 cops turning up. No attempt at de-escalation.
the guy sounds like a total karen
@T A Unfortunately those are almost always personal injury lawyers 😢
You make a complaint they find a way to come knocking or harass you
Riiight?! Crazy that more people aren’t talking about this
I would agree with the "C-" grade for the officers, until they levied an obstruction charge against him. That brings it down to an "F" for me.
and the fact the main guy in the video already had an internal affairs complaint against one of the officers.
@@ericvoots Gosh...I'm sure that had NOTHING to do with it. They were looking to bust someone over something in plain sight.
@@ericvoots That complaint makes me wonder if that is truly what this was all about. I wonder if anyone had checked to see if there WAS an actual 911 call they were using for justication.
Don't answer the door. Just turn the radio up get in a fortified position and rack em and pack em.
Damn straight!!!F -
If an officer knowingly enters a home with no warrant it should be treated as breaking and entering. If they falsely arrest somebody they should be charged with kidnapping. Don’t give them the power to make mistakes like this and go about their day and maybe we can actually trust the people that were meant to “serve and protect” again. Every police department has officers like this because it’s an easy job for someone with no skills and anger issues to be drawn to.
I feel bad for the person who actually called and may have required aid while nine officers stood around in a hallway holding their genitals.
FACTS!!!
If there was a call. But when he said that he had a complaint against another Sgt, the whole thing seemed fishy.
It takes NINE cops to investigate a non-emergency from a non-existent land line! Wow! This was pure intimidation. They're also being negligent because they should have been on patrol.
Probably should have sent teams out to search instead of harassing the home owner. Clear retaliation by the police, probably wasn't even a 911 call. All cops lie, never forget, all cops lie.
Maybe they should have not acted until a murder had occurred before checking the house. Yeah, that would go down well!
@James Stewart
You would think so, but is it possible to fake the number so that the person that answers sees the wrong but local number? I get a few scam calls in the UK from what looks like local numbers but its obvious when the person talks that they are from somewhere like Mumbai or Calcutta, India.
@James Stewart it wasn't!!! They LIED!!!!!
@@hedydd2 ever heard of voip? it's so easy to spoof a call nowadays
Called, once, to file a complaint on an officer. Was in cuffs 30 minutes later. Officer I wanted to report wound up being the one set to lock me up on "obstruction". Crazy coincidence. 🙄
@@thedon1570 pls get off the internet, it's clearly not doing you good
@Future Pants if that's true it's fucked up and I'm really sorry for you, stay strong! Remember your rights! Much love from Germany!
@@SeZ_LeZ yes troll.
You're lying
@@69Emoji exactly
So glad this channel is doing so well.
They were antagonizing him on purpose to as retaliation he’s obviously agitated and they are hoping he snaps so they can arrest him.
The police call it "pumping a suspect."
so they can get him in an area wo cameras and “tune him up”
The job is a bullies wet dream.
Even if he snapped, he would have the complete legal right to do so. They were legally armed trespassers once they refused to leave after talking to everybody present in the house and being informed there is no landline. He could have legally killed every police officer in his apartment in all 50 states.
@@ominarous It is indeed interesting to think, that at a certain point in time, the officers in the house were literally just armed trespassers, and this event was no different from an armed home invasion, where one is absolutely legally allowed to retaliate with lethal force in self defense. Though I am not certain how justifiable this would be in court unfortunately. The uniform and badge they wear gives unreasonable rights and powers to officers that overstep their bounds and legal authority, as in practice they often get away with things because of the badge and uniform they have, which absolutely would count as a felony and would be a reasonable case of citizen self defense if evoked by the citizen.
this was retaliatory. they used this as a method for harassment after he went after the department.
@@AFE1312 lol
@@AFE1312 its online already "John" is just now covering it... you should look for the original theres much to the background of this story that he may not cover. you are right... i did not finish it. im already aware of the type of case this is and how to prosecute it in court.
@@AFE1312 lmaooo
@@pearlrival3124 nice
It probably was retaliatory based on 9 policemen present after it was discovered the phone number did not belong to the house and they were not trying to respond to the actual source of the call if it even existed. The police were endangering the actual caller with this extension of a response.
They refused to leave because of ego and nothing more . “Nobody” tells them what to do especially to hurry .
A phony call so that they could harass him due to the complaint already filed...
You'd think they'd want to go find the person that actually called the police. If they were in so much danger..
Gotta think of both sides. Some officers DO want to be heros and they DO actually want to help. Put yourself in their shoes. Would you want to make sure everyone in that home was safe? Possibly saving a potential life. I see both sides honestly. Just wasn't a fun situation for anyone
@@floogalflambyn6805 theres no both sides of anything lol they literally over served their purpose and made no attempt to find the real person they called. Stop trying to both sides shit just because you wanna excuse the officers lol that was goofy
@@stephonhopkins3690 and you just want to demonize them. See how easily your shit argument can be turned against you? If you don’t see both sides your an inconsiderate idiot. The cops aren’t douchebags, they made a mistake, if you make a mistake at your job are you a shitty human being? They wanted to make sure someone wasn’t being fucking raped and beaten in the house, and the dude was acting insanely erratic.
@@stephonhopkins3690 There is always two sides to everything. Stop being so hard headed just because you clearly can't stand the law.
@@bradenmiller4356 in a house where there was no landline? Lol yeah ok buddy. Then come to find out he has an open case on an officer lol yeah that’s cute.
The police is at fault here, but I understand them wanting to check with everyone in the house, thats just common sense. If my husband abuses me and he answers the door, of course he would say everybody is ok.
I thought the same thing about this video. The guy answering the door is automatically agressive toward the cops and that would put the cops on alert.
@@johndavisson344 exactly, both sides are at fault here, one in the first half and the other in the last half
I just think it would be amazing if someone flashed a flashlight back at cops face
@@johndavisson344 I mean I would be pretty irritated too if some cops banged on my door in the middle of me doing something.
That part about the call came from a landline!!! Are you confused?
Sounds retaliatory to me. This guy had an internal affairs investigation going against the sergeant. it’s possible the police could’ve looked up the LAN line to that house, said there was a call and hang up so they would have reason to go to the address and investigate, and then just hassle him.
LAN? Land!
Interesting typo. :)
It happens. Look at at how many warrants have been signed all on the word of an unknown unnamed source.
They don't even have to do that. They went to my exact address just based off a butt dial from a cellphone.
Nice comment, I would never have thought of that.
@@Scapestoat Actually, LAN stands for Local Area Network. Ever dial a phone number that has the same area code as you? (example: 1123345 calls 1233345 without adding 555 to the beginning) Thats because the phone number was within your Local Area Network, therefore, instead of calling an external number, you called someone locally in the same LAN connection. Hopefully I taught you something because that'd be cool.
It truly is mind blowing how often police seem to raid the wrong houses.
Wow, I can just imagine that while this is all happening, the entire family next door was murdered and the killer walked past all of these preoccupied police officers as they left the actual origin of the 911 call.
Right. The cops were not in any way worried about anyone's safety in that house.
Once Brian B said he had already filed a complaint against one of their fellow officers I knew exactly what this was about. They showed up to try and intimidate and bully him for filing a complaint against one of their own. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if that 911 call was completely made up just so they could use it as a excuse to harass this man. That entire police department should be ashamed of themselves.
9 officers….for a 911 call, that they don’t actually know where it came from. Even once they found out for sure it didn’t come from there, they STILL did not leave. I think he has a case if he has a current internal affairs investigation, he is right to think this is retaliatory.
Basically this. And the officers had this weird attitude the whole time (special mention, the one making a face at the phone regocrding him). Very creepy stuff.
Intimidation that’s all it is
I'm pretty sure they already knew it wasnt the house and just wanted to bother him
if this is true and he has an internal affairs investigation ongoing at the time then theres 100% a case for an investigation into whether the incident was staged or not by the officers/ precinct involved... HOWEVER it is highly unlikely to be the case and mostlikely the reason they didnt leave when asked was due to the owners erratic and aggressive behaviour. he's well within his rights to do so but you can see why the officers involved acted the way they did also. honestly i'd be 100% on the officers side IF they hadent served him with obstruction, he technically did obstruct their duties but to such a minor degree that really serving him with that obstruction charge was just petty.
Not erratic. Consistent in not letting 'em in and telling them to leave.. Everyone knows not to let the police into the apt without a warrant. Now we know that police can force itself in, but that is different from letting them in.
The likelihood of this "silent 911" call being phoney is 99%, in this case, and therefore not letting them in is proper, and not an obstruction.
AtA is off in its analysis and grades given.
Once this jerk refused their admission, and no likely life threatening exigency was present, building was surrounded, and a warrant could have been obtained and presented within 30min - thus avoiding tickets and lawsuits and taxpayers' money being wasted, and broken doors and bad feelings.
The initial stepping inside made sense, since someone who may be carrying out domestic abuse could and probably would say the same things that B said, but everything after the cops finding out everyone inside was safe was just some bs.
I 100% agree. My only concern is that just because they didn't see a land line doesn't mean one isn't further back in the house. Same with there being a potential fourth person they didn't see. Having said that.... what are the 5 outside looking over each others shoulders going to do? And if the cops actually thought what I said might be the case, why didn't they do a quick room by room scan?
I also made a point of looking at the other cops faces when the guy mentioned the complaint. Not one registered any shock or interest. Like they knew or this was so common that it isn't worth noting.
yeah, in my country Mr B's reaction is quite suspicious, and only probable cause is needed for warrantless arrests/searches.
@@Badartist888 you can't search someone else's property without a search warrant.
@@MrFoxALot the police can if they think a crime is happening.
Don't get me wrong. This was likely revenge though.
@@Badartist888 they actually can't if they only *think* a crime is being comitted.
There has to be a reasonable suspicion.
Courts have slapped them down time and time again because they "believed" a possible crime was being committed but then couldn't articulate any actual reasoning.
And acting suspicious isn't reasonable suspicion to perform a warrantless search under false pretenses of a magically unverifiable 911 call
One phone call and all your rights go out of the door.
After they confirmed everyone in the house was fine but still refused to leave would have had me losing my mind too. Who do you call to remove the police from your home when they aren't supposed to be there?
A local militia
Our good friends Smith and Wesson
Right? We need a police for the police
@@CodeeXD so your solution to cops looking for a reason to arrest people is the threatening them with a gun? Smart 🤦
The police.I have had to do that at my daughters once.
NINE COPS? Someone somewhere is still waiting for you to show up and help them! This is outrageous.
Doubt it. It was most likely retaliation
I hope he sues the shit outta that police department. That was harassment pure and simple. This is why people hate the cops. They listen to nothing you say yet we are supposed to obey everything they tell us.
Once they get no cooperation, which makes their life miserable, cops seek to make life as difficult as possible for the citizen. These videos likely do not reveal what was really going on. Here, if the guy calling 911 wasn't identified, you gotta identify that person to understand wht was really going on.
Not
Problem is that the city/county will pay the bill
No chance at winning lmao
@@doginho121 ya hes got no chance he handled it poorly. they clearly wanted to at least get a visual and a verbal confirmation that the person with him was ok. i mean it happens where abused women call and hang up that's obviously what they were thinking, im sure if he just got his girl to come to the door and acted chill it would have went differently.
Ego,stupidity, and the inability to admit error.bad combination.
I actually had something very similar happen to me when I moved this spring. I kept having the local PD showing up for 911 hang-ups from my address. First couple times I shrugged it off after checking my cell to make sure I didn't pocket-dial or something. But after several visits, some daily, twice on one day, the officer said it was coming from a land line. Only problem was, there is no landline here. Finally after they came about ten times, the officer pointed out a small plastic box attached to what looked like phone wire outside on my side lawn by the porch. He said maybe the rain was affecting it, as the calls always seemed to happen after a rainfall. So I removed the box, and no returns from the police ever since. Luckily the local PD were very professional and cordial with me during every encounter, and they never once tried forcing entry.
They have a duty to try and make sure nobody is in danger. The problem arises if they then use that entry to try and carry out other investigations.
I bet You didn't throw yourself at their throats when they arrived.... Being polite is free
Maybe that was the case here with this house
Im sure the rain was calling the cops… lol….
I'm a telecoms technical support advisor and have been for four years. I have never seen weather causing false calls of any type. The closest thing I have seen is crossed lines causing false calls, but this is extremely rare. I'm in the UK, though, The US telecoms network may function differently to ours.
That ticket was to get on record that the dude has a history of negative interactions with the police so they can attack his character in relation to his complaint to IA. Notice how they were trying any and everything to get him to do something stupid
Not a lawyer, but in what world does that help their case with IA if it happens AFTER the complaint that IA is investigating? If anything it would look like harassment.
How did they give him a ticket if he did not identify himself? That part I'm not understanding
@@emmafrost3115 To my knowledge you can use the character/behaviour of a person as evidence against their reliability when giving testemony.
And for that the timeline is irrelevant.
@@oakley4595 They already knew who he was beforehand. Probably why they chose to stay there and try to provoke the guy into doing something that’ll get him arrested. That would damage his character and call his IA complaint into question.
@@oakley4595 There was probably no 911 call, it was all planned
Umm... a mysterious "call-and-hangup" from a number supposedly associated with the address of someone who has a _current_ IA complaint against the department? I'd be REAL curious to know if there's any actual record of this call at the emergency call center. -- Also, I can imagine being a LOT more scared and angry than he ended up being in the circumstances. He has a goddamn complaint against the department and a LOT of them show up on a demonstrably flimsy excuse and seem extremely eager to enter the premises further/not leave upon explicit requests even after it's clear the 911 hangup was bogus. -- IT IS CLEAR _beyond a reasonable doubt_ that they just didn't want to follow _his_ "orders". Police largely become institutionalized as authoritative bullies and they expect to end encounter on _their terms_ and to anyone who wants to argue that their behavior was motivated by any genuine concern for citizen safety or police procedure, I've got a big fat NFT bridge-token with their name on it.
Absolute abuse of authority.
He's like me: I have the right to remain silent, but not the ability.
haha
@@ashwaa-r9d so, mobile has a feature that translates comments at the press of a button, and it showed up on your comment, and when I tapped it, it changed to "lol". I don't know why, but I found it funny that it did that.
@@kittydemonoverkill lol I just did that too 😂
Me too.
Lol that's me
In my book any LEO that knowingly breaks the law gets an F. If they are simply ignorant of the law, they get a D at best, assuming they did nothing else wrong.
That C- rating for the offers angered me a bit. An F was warranted.
@@mahlatsesathekge5596 You don't understand what happened in this video. It's an "Eyes Wide Shut" case.
"Sir, we had a 911 call from this house."
"Nobody called 911."
"Can we speak to the other residents?"
"No."
RED FLAG. What do you mean "no". Since we're all so keen on rights, don't the other residents have a right to answer for themselves? Why not?
Once he answered "no" for the other residents this could only end with a house full of cops.
This is the situation form the police perspective. If somebody called 911, they called against this belligerent asshole. Fill the house with cops, get as many police here as we can. Not to intimidate him, but to make the person who called 911 feel safe enough to come forward. Did you notice the situation ends when there 10 cops standing around and the lady calmly explains she did not call and is not in danger. Then they leave.
This is a situation where some idiot created major problems for himself. A little common sense and it all would have ended quickly and amicably.
@@jasonlongton1876 If there was a situation, the cops would have heard some sort of altercation or the guy would not have responded to the knocking at all. When they were able to actually talk to them and say no one called, it should have ended there, yet it didn't. Your reasons do not justify their unwanted presence after being told to leave and further defines lack of logic.
@@jasonlongton1876 Once the officer's no longer had a valid reasonable suspicion, and they were asked to leave, their continued presence was illegal. F
@@mkirkman89 lol not to mention that it was stated that the homeowner had a pending complaint at the time. It was stated at 10:53
This was nothing short of harassment. It literally does not make sense that a landline would trace to a house that it isn't in. Their story was flimsy and they used the guys reaction of being reluctant to deal with police (considering he had a pending complaint) to brute force their way past his rights and his front door. And then not only staying at the home after it was clear nothing was wrong, but allowing *nine* let me say it again *AT LEAST NINE* officers to show up. This was like textbook police harassment.
C- feels too high for these guys. D- feels more accurate. They were initially in their right to enter. But the moment they figured out they were at the wrong place, they should have apologized and left, then sent him a retaliatory ticket later. Having 9 police at his house when the first two should have left the moment they realized they were at the wrong place when they entered the house is ridiculous.
I agree. He never gives anyone a D though. I don't know why and I keep asking him.
@@TheKingOfInappropriateComments Right, it goes from C- to F, nothing in between.
@@mensaswede4028 Often in American schools, grading goes A (90-100), B (80-90), C (70-80), F (
A the A almost always gives a passing grade to cops when they don't kill someone.
@@YTRulesFromNM C- isn't exactly a great grade they barely passed and i actually think he rated the auditor slightly high honestly.
So all an officer needs to conduct a warrantless search is to say they recieved a 911 call and just make up a phone nimber?
Nine " officers " were at the wrong address......meanwhile, 12 year old Sky has been abducted from her home and is lying dead in a ditch. I'm sure there are some good cops out there but the more I watch AtheA the more I doubt it.
Just try to keep things in perspective: This channel is a bit of a highlight reel of some of the worst law enforcement performances. You're not going to see the vast amount of very boring "normal" police interactions happening on a daily basis, precisely because they're boring. Assuming an average of about four officers per video, and about one video per week, that's something like 200 highlighted officers per year. Figuring roughly half a million police officers in the US, you're seeing about 0.04% of the total police force represented here.
For those people affected by that small number of problematic officers, it's terrible, obviously. Those people should be compensated for the injustices they suffer, and by all means, we should do everything we reasonably can to reduce that number of problematic interactions. However, it can be very tempting to paint with entirely too broad a brush here, and it's important to keep in mind, there are vast numbers of police officers out there, whose names and stories you will never hear, who have 25 or 30 years of honorable, courageous service protecting their communities, characterized by positive interactions.
The vast majority of police are people just trying to do the job the best they can, and it's a dangerous and often thankless job. This all is compounded by people primed to assume the worst by this loss of perspective, so I'll ask: How do you suppose you would feel if each contact you had with people in your job began with them assuming you were both thoroughly incompetent and actively trying to harm them?
Good cops exist, but they are the extreme minority and are either left for dead, assassinated, or forced off the job.
@@don_5283
This channel is not a highlight of a few bad apples. Bad apples like these cannot exist without a culture of corruption. You think you're seeing the exception, but you're seeing the rule.
@@don_5283 Yep, this is one of the flaws of the internet and modern media.
@@don_5283
"Just try to keep things in perspective: This channel is a bit of a highlight reel of some of the worst law enforcement performances. "
Just try to keep things in perspective: These NINE COPS swore an OATH to obey and uphold the law to the letter.
Just try to keep things in perspective: These NINE COPS looked at the three people in the house, saw that they were fine and did not need assistance, and then refused to leave.
Just try to keep things in perspective: These NINE COPS broke into a mans home without a FUCKING WARRANT because an old number that was last used at the address, which no longer has an active land line, was used to make a 911 hang-up call.
Just try to keep things in perspective: You are trying to deny "12 year old Sky" her right to feel safe at home by saying not nearly all cops are bad.
Really?
No fucking shit.
But here is the problem:
The cops in this video took a misunderstanding and ROLLED WITH IT.
Going so far as to kick the mans door in and get SEVEN other cops there to stop a crime that hadn't been committed,
Hadn't been thought to be committed,
Hadn't been POSSIBLE to commit,
And was very quickly found to be nonexistent.
And then STAYED LONG after they knew was legal for them to do so!
Bad cops deserve to be punished to the FULLEST FUCKING EXTENT OF THE LAW and you trying to justify the behavior in the video by making pisspoor attempts to redirect attention to the "Good cops"?
Fucking makes me wretch food that I ate 3 days ago.
You're a disgusting bootlicker who finds .04% of bad Cop incidents acceptable.
Cops swore an oath.
ANY cop that goes against that oath in the slightest is a bad cop that need to be in prison.
The most important question is: why weren't those nine cops frantically looking for who actually made the 911 call when they realized it did not come from that home.
Shouldn't they have been concerned that someone was actually needing their help while they were standing in their harassing someone that they knew did not make the call.
The cops probably didn't want to do the paperwork for a real crime.
My guess is that there had been no 911 call. The resident mentions at some point that he had an ongoing complaint with Internal Affairs. All those cops were there to show him "who's boss".
Well, I have to admit that it’s really suspicious for people gotten a domestic call, and then when they arrive the man admit that there are other people at home and they just want to do a welfare check, and the man refuses.
My aunt was murdered by her husband so call if we did a welfare check after a 911 and only spoke with one person, but not the other...
I don’t know. All I’m saying is I would’ve handled the very beginning of all this differently. Everything else I guess. Just the very beginning I would’ve done something different.
Their ego is more important than public safety and they have proven this time and time again.
@@rai4119 When "the man", or anyone, *knows* for a fact that there's no reason why a 911 call would originate from his address, it's really suspicious that cops show up claiming that a 911 call is the (convenient) reason for them to invade this man's private property (who happens to have an ongoing complaint with internal affairs at their department as he states in the video).
What the residents did was to back the cops into a corner when the latter 'admitted' that the call came from a land line, and it turns out that there is no land line at that residence. So... going back to the very beginning, what nonsense is their tracking equipment that cannot correctly locate a call from a *land line* ??!! Only validates the person's defensive stance at telling them to f*ck off from the get-go.
I heard of something similar happening to someone several years back and when the cops realized they were in the wrong house instead of leaving one of the cops got suspicious and asked if they could search the house. When he was told no, the cop asked why not? What are you afraid of if you have nothing to hide? He was immediately answered, "because you cops make a mess and by law you don't have to clean up and put everything back the way you found them after you are done searching, and I just don't feel like doing it either". The cops left.
I love that answer. They had no legal right to search.
Sounds like bs
That man is a legend, lol.
Its an impartial jury here in America,not a jury of ones peers.
I hope he files and wins a lawsuit. When they saw there was no landlines they should've left the residence immediately! They were harassing him after they gathered there was no landlines there. If he has filed multiple complaints there should be evidence of retaliatory actions from the officers present.
What tells you that it was proven there were no landlines or even hidden captives. Looks to me like the cops got as far as 5 steps into the door of the residence with multiple rooms. You’re making assumptions.
@@thisisIvixis It was said in the video the phone call was from a landline, and the police found no landlines in the home.
How do you “see” there are no landlines short of actually searching the residence? Any psycho can claim whatever he wants. And considering you (original commenter) could be in that guys basement, gagged and tied, you should expect more then them taking him on his word.
@@FlashNorton It was an apartment...
@@hickfarm well you get my point… plenty of places to hide someone in an apartment.
I'm not against law enforcement, as long as they're with in the law. What i don't understand is... once they're proved to be wrong. Why can't they say, I'm sorry/my apologies. Have a great day...
Probably an Ego thing. Read the comment made by Ifz89. I think he explained the perspective perfectly.
They are trained to be in control of every situation, if they admit fault without first forcing their authority on people they do not feel in control.
Legally if they admit they made a mistake they can be sued in civil court as admitted their guilt. By not admiting guilt they can say they did nothing wrong.
@@TyphusVonElder not necessarily, all law enforcement officer's are procted by what they say. With that being said, always know your rights. State law's most importantly use your 5th amendment rights when nessaserry. Be sure to say that you're exercising them. Fire Dept's , EMT's are not procted by what we say.
Wow!! What is wrong with these people!!? Just admit you’re wrong and move on!!!
@@JoeTGH north jersey?
Blue bandits can’t be wrong. Haven’t you seen their internal investigations? They investigate themselves then find no wrong doing.
It can be hard for humans in a place with authority to admit wrongdoings 🙄
What makes you think this was a mistake? The cops PLANNED this. There was no '9-1-1 call'. This guy had the sheer audacity to file a complaint against a cop, and this is the kind of retaliatory abuse he can expect from now on.
He can expect to be followed and/or pulled over pretty much every time he drives anywhere. He can expect to be harassed in the middle of the night by imaginary 9-1-1 calls from his house. He can expect cops driving back and forth in his neighborhood eying his residence. And it will all continue until a judge decides to step in and tell the police to back off.
They can't do it they have to act like they are high and mighty and the police are beneath them
it occurs to me that whatever you tell a cop they do the opposite. so you could use that to your advantage. "stay here! yeah i bet you cant leave! im gonna put on some coffee and youre gonna sit here with me all night! youre afraid to get into your car and drive away from here!" i bet they would leave so fast.
I think the key here was when Mr B stated that he had an Internal Affairs complaint against one of the officers present and that this was a retaliatory action. The officer continually shining his light in B's face and obviously laughing under his mask during most of the interaction indicates this could be true.
Gangsters in uniforms… fuckin mafia blues…i d rather have no cops at all to protect me they do an awful job and scare everyone that’s terrorism
I woulda just got naked and started smoking a cig like ight you wanna hang out in my house it’s about to get weird
@@acbulgin2 I just would make it as uncomfortable as possible for them
@@acbulgin2 that doesn’t even make sense it’s your house and they had no reason to be there you could have a field day in court with them if they arrested you for undressing in your own home
@@jonsmet1292 and here's another case of media misleading someone.
look at Minneapolis, they abolished their police academy and crime sky rocketed 300%. we need police, and you're genuinely dumb if you think we dont.
These false 911 calls can really screw you over. I had a hostile neighbor nextdoor that had access to one of those old phone company handsets that could tap into the old school land lines. This asshole tapped our line from the distribution box in the alley behind his house and called 911 on our unused landline having his girlfriend pose as my wife saying that I was beating her in the backyard and needed assistance. We came home from eating dinner out to find a yard full of cop cars, 4 to be exact. They immediately separate me and my wife and start questioning us. I insisted to them that I had no landline and only used cell phones. Appraently, even if you dont have an active landline, it can still be used for 911. This could have gone really bad for us. They had a problem with my attitude as well and lingered around seemingly trying to find something to arrest me on. The asswipe nextdoor that was harrassing us ultimately killed himself in a motorcycle accident a year later so karma bit him in the ass hard. I have had very limited exchanges with cops in my 50 years but 90% of them have gone down like this one in the vid. Throwing their weight around and stepping on your rights hoping you arent educated in what your basic rights are.
I don't know how many times I've called the cops and they end up asking for my ID like they're gonna arrest me!
My interaction with police was very different, but it did leave a very better taste and experience. I was 12 years old and was assaulted by a person who was either 18 or 19 years old. The only thing that cops did is ask me if I did anything to provoke him? They kept asking me the same question over and over. At the end of the day they didn't even put handcuffs on the guy. I wish I had known the law like I do now because I know assault on a minor at least deserves handcuffs. I haven't trust police ever since.
But you weren’t home…
I dont know where you live but in my area a deactivated land line can not call 911, their is no dial tone nor is there power on the line to energize the connection or if you have a modern phone to power the actual buttons. Now a deactivated. cell phone can call 911 were i live.. So before you rely on a land line for 911 you better make sure that works in your area. (note the phone the neighbor used has abilities that a home phone does not so it ,ay be able to use a disconnected line i don't know)
What a waste of a motorcycle
That's the US police for you, it takes nine police officers to register a non-emergency, and even after they knew perfectly well that the call did not come from that house, they said they have to make sure nobody required assistance, AND they mailed HIM a citation. I'm dumbfounded.
the citation will make his lawsuit all the better.
Im completly dumbfounded by the citation.
What country do you live in?
@@Lopyswine Finland, why? Is that relevant?
He said "I have an internal affairs complaint on one of the sergeants, and this happens, and this is retaliatory!" There is no landline. I do not believe that there was any call.
I’m torn with the beginning of this. I think it’s reasonable that the police ask to speak to any individuals in the home. I would’ve immediately complied to assure them no one was being harmed and hopefully they would’ve gone away
That’s what a smart person would do. Unfortunately this guy’s ego is too big and he loves exercising his rights just for the hell of it. The police could’ve easily left within 5-10 minutes if he wasn’t being a baby.
Actually if a household has multiple people living or staying in it, it is the right of the officers responsibility to check and make sure that no one is in the home hiding or injured. After they secured the home and no one is found injured, they do not have the right to stay there or harrass the people there.
I agree that Mr. B is an jerk and has major issues. He did obstruct the officers by not letting them make sure that no one was hurt or there was no in distress there.
I was torn until I heard he has an IA investigation against one of the officers. If they came to my house I’d do what you suggest. In this guys case he knew it was a BS retaliation thing so I can respect him holding his ground.
I have to agree. Partially. I have actually had a situation like this, I called my girlfriend to the door so she could verify that the address they were given was wrong, and all was well. After that, had the police stayed, I would have resorted to calling the county Sherrifs Department. Standing there arguing with a cop that thinks he is right is pointless.
Yup, logic. Nobody else gets it 🤦
It’s frightening to realize just how much bullsh*t STILL goes on all the time, and especially when people aren’t recording. Everyone is guilty in their eyes.
Everyone is innocent in there own eyes
Even though the cops were "calm" their refusal to admit they messdd up is dangerous. And so many people will side with the cops blindly.
Imagine the true caller dying in pain meantime while the officers are knowing they are at the wrong house thats without a landline and are trying to power up their egos completely dismissing the importance of a distress call.
Dead in a ditch
Lets for 1 moment assume that this was the house where the call originated from
- Murderer denies access to the police officers. Morons like you think they should leave. Luckily they dont.
- Murderer has accomplices and they all say "Nah its all fine, there's not even a landline here". Morons like you think the police should take that as a fact, while it could be a lie, both that everyone is okay, and that there's no landline.
Police officers needed not only to talk to the people who showed themselves to them, but to check the entire property, as a beaten wife or injured person could be locked up in a bathroom, closet, or something else.
"Nah man there's no land line here" when a life might on the line and when someone called to the EMERGENCY LINE would only be believed by an IDIOT without full assurance that everyone is okay in there.
@@benjamindeh873
Or, the cops could check their address, and realized they were in the wrong place.
Or, you could take into account ALL the known facts instead of hypothetical and overall useless "what-ifs," such as the fact that he has a complaint with the IA regarding this department, or how they managed to cite him despite him not identifying himself (suggesting this was not accidental as they clearly knew who he was.)
But, one would have to be based in reality to conserve facts and complexity. Only the delusional would liberally wave off facts just to make an argument as if it held any validity at all. I suppose when (not if) the police feel it's your turn to be under the boot, I will remember your ignorant defence of tyranny, and will tell the officers to step harder in your case. Let's go Brandon!
@@innocentbystander3317 ...You do know that the cops didnt have all the facts you and I have now when they knocked on the door right? The known FACTS for the officers at that point were:
- They have a report of an emergency there.
- The person responding the door is aggressive, screaming and agitated. The way he was acting he might as well have beaten his wife 2 minutes ago. Normal intelligent people dont bark like that.
Yeah, hindsight is 20/20, now we know they wasted their time, but the only way to know that was to investigate.
We do not know if they got the address wrong, or if it was a fake call, or if the caller gave the wrong address. And neither did they at that point.
Lets hear you moron, what do you think police procedure should be when you get an emergency call from a residence, and you are denied access? When we KNOW there's both cases when:
- Nothing happened, no one needs help
- Someone inside needs help, and the attacker is denying access to the police
This guy is an imbecile, and he wasted police's time because he is a dumb asshole. The situation took 3-4 times the time it would have taken with an intelligent and decent person.
The way he behaved and was all agitated could very easily have been seen as a wife beater hiding what he did to his wife. Police officers had every right and DUTY to be concerned when the moron slammed the door on their faces.
@@benjamindeh873
Report of an emergency where exactly?
Now, by "report," are you talking about the location reported by the caller, by the associated address for the caller's phone number, the reported address of the caller in official databases, the address reported by the operator, the address reported by dispatch, or the address as reported by cops in the wrong place?
This is such a key detail in your argument, that without a factual proof, makes your entire argument insipid, pointless, and offensively dishonest.
Oooh, ad hominem logic? That must be a sign of your superiority, as only the best arguments resort to pure fallacies. Here, let me try:
Your an ignorant pe dough file, so you must be wrong.
Do you like that? Also a fallacy, meaning it must be true of you, right? It would be hypocritical of you to argue that your not a m.a.p at this point...
10:54 - Okay, NOW, it’s starting to make sense. Up until that point, I was thinking this guy was being totally unreasonable, blowing the whole thing outta proportion, and acting suspicious. Now, I can understand why he wouldn’t want to play their games.
Exactly, it clicked at that point for me too. They were tryin to show their force and intimidate him especially when they showed up with 7 additional officers
A pig is a pig
This was straight up intimidation. These cops knew what they were doing. He was targeted for other complaints he made.
It's was clear retaliation and vindictive.
This one made my blood boil, having foreign people in your house that you don’t want there and who are you going to call? Super unsettling to me
This is why you never open the door for cops.