Micro Pavé - 4.2mm Center Stone - 30 small diamonds
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 พ.ย. 2016
- In the video you see Niels van Dooren setting 1 big center diamond (4,2mm) and 30 small stones in a yellow gold ring.
Visit: www.vandoorendiamonds.com
Music:
I need to start writing things down - Chris Zabriskie
Drone in D - Kevin Macleod
Danse Macabre - Kevin MacLeod
Watching you work is hypnotic. So relaxing.
Rascal77s that’s very nice to hear ! ;-)
I love this video! It shows the true nature of stone setting from cutting of the seats, fitting the stone and going back in to adjust the cut of the seat until your stone fits. I am a stone setting trainer. I set and train using a microscope and camera. It is a great pleasure watching you work. Seeing you go out of focus a few times made me smile. When I'm training I go out of focus a lot. Lol! Watching someone as talented as you are makes me strive to be a better setter and teacher.
Hi Marie Young, Thanks for your comment. I'm also constantly training to become better and optimize my work.
Thank you for your comment Marie Young. Where are you based?
@@heinikendude i am training myself, this video es very helpful i will try doing it while watching and try to do my best
Instablaster
@@heinikendude is there any books out there that train in the pave setting techniques?.... I'm trying to train myself and I'm having trouble with spacing of stones and drilling my holes in a straight line.... thats as far as I got so far...😕
Gorgeous!! Thank you for sharing!
Thank you very much for sharing!!!
You're welcome ;-)
Bravo bro. Nice clean job good example of professional setter
Stunning work!
Thank you Tanya
Beautiful piece and great job! Loved ir
Cesco Monti thanks for your comment
Wow this guy knows what he's doing!
Chana Lowenthal haha thanks !
Mravenčia krásna práca.Žasnem.ĎAKUJEM
Nanaya Nortci English maybe ? ;-)
You are a true master! Awesome gem setting.
Thanks Leuthsamone for your nice words !
Patience and skill right there.....
Thanks !
You answered a lot of questions I had. Thank you!
jason clements you’re welcome
superb very nice work
Thanks Babu
Stunning work!! Are ball burs and straight burs the only kind you use when making pavé settings?
How do you keep your pilot holes & seats perfectly spaced (horizontally) without marking between the stones upon layout? I see the markings for the vertical spacing, but nothing else. Does that just come with years of experience or is there a step or technique you use to do this that I didn’t notice or haven’t learned?
அற்புதமான வேலைப்பாடு சிறப்பு 🙏 💪
Great work super 💪
Thank you Jambu for your kind words.
Bravo my Friend.....Bravo. 😍
Good job, well done
Thanks for your nice words Quyen!
Amazing, thx for shearing
You're welcome!
Very beautiful. Why do you carve out such deep channels inbetween each stone?
Ese hombre es un verdadero maestro del arte de las prendas
Henry Alexander Morales Moya Gracias amigo !
@@heinikendude , ... ich bin deutscher Goldschmied und attestiere Dir : hervorragend gemacht !
muito boa a cravação, parabéns
Gracias Antonio da Costa! ;-)
Great job bye the way!
Z całym szacunkiem !! Jest Pan wielki! super!
Joachim moczko hi, is it possible to reply in English, French, Spanish or German ?
vandoorenniels nou
espectacular felicitaciones
Are you using anything (eg beeswax) to stick the stone tables down during layout, or are you just relying on not bumping them onto the bench?
I assume from the shaping of your tools & a lot of your method you also trained with Jura?
Just not bumping into the bench ;-) And yes trained with Jura !
Excellent video,I would need a 2mm bit to set a 2mm stone correct?
Blazing Crickets correct !
Good job!
Thanks Cetin!
Besonderes gutes Video! Super!
Прекрасное видео! Спасибо.
Thank you Wladimir!
По истине,говорят,ювелирная работа.....Удивительно,спасибо
Hi my friend, do you speak english?
Thanks for your time
@@heinikendude Hi I little speak english. Your work is beautiful
Could u please mention the name of complete set of tool u use in this video, I am learner, it helps me a lot, thanks
Hi Shamimia, I would suggest to contact Juratools and mention my name. they can help you! ;-)
Boa tarde. Belo trabalho!!! Qual o nome dessa ferramenta que vc afiou o buril?
Hi Wanderson, hablas español o ingles? ;-)
@ vandoorenniels hi, under foil, irregularly rounding, not rose, asymmetric faceting, flat diamond did you work ?
thnk.
Hi Arel gr, I do not completely understand your question. Could you reformulate? Thanks in advance!
hi great work you done !!! I am a stone setter but I never used divider ... I would like to learn how to divide with divivers , can you explain ??? I will be very happy for that :)))) thnxxx
Gary Zeos you should, in a circle
Pattern always start dividing from the center. The normal division is all with the same diamond diameters. This shows different ones and should be via trail and error. Also if you take the diameter of the stones and you mark these on the circle (which you drew from the center point) you can just keep marking until you reach the last one. Most of the times these do not exactly match then just continue with tiny stripes and decrease your diameter by turning ‘inwards’ this way you should eventually meet one of your previous marks.
vandoorenniels I didn't get to much but thank you for your reply !!! is there any video or a book that can explain it more clear ?
Gary Zeos why don’t you just start by mapping out the actual diamonds bottom up on the jewelry. And use a divider (take the diameter from the diamond) and mark the position. I’m happy to provide some more details over the email. Info@vandoorendiamonds.com
Pls. Which. Number of engraver and what king you used to cut all around the drillings.. thx for your answer
jose joshuam used a self made 60 degree graver with a small ‘cheek’ to go round
What is the green stuff and why is it being applied to the ring 12:37?
HI Trevor, Sorry for the delayed response. It's a dental contact spray to see where the big stone press the metal.
sensacional muito bem feito.
Gracias Antonio!
Phenomenal
Keith Lester thanks for the comment
Very nice job, I almost do it like that too. May I ask what is the name of that green powder that you use on minute 12:43 and 19.49 ?
Albert Haghverdian yes of course! That’s dental spray! ;-)
@@heinikendude Thanks
I found this totally fascinating, as I am having a similar ring, repaired!
Hi Coralscraftslady, ah thats nice to hear! Hope your ring comes back well!
Yes, it came back, and is ok, but I am very careful with it now! It isn't nearly as elaborate as that one, but the small diamonds are very high quality, and it sparkles so! Thank you, for your kind words! :)
What is this ring design called? Where can i buy a ring like this from?
What is the tool used to shave off the sides and what size burr do you use for 4.2 mm diamond? Also did you measure the small stone and then drilled or did you eye ball?
We use different gravers to cut the sides and remove the metal. And obviously we measure very precise every stone before setting. ;-)
@@heinikendude that means you match the burr size to the stone size.
Am a jeweler I understand a fu things a little more better thank you master 🙏🏾🙏🏾
You're welcome Donovan!
In één woord, WOW!
Dankjewel Jan ! Stel je commentaar zeer op prijs ;-)
BRAVOOO amaizing work . I am also parcticing this arts since 15 years and will to return because i love it.
Please sir i want to ask you about this type of arts, do you have much orders ? and Is this kind of art much needed or not?
please give me an advice
THANKS YOU FOR ASNWERING IN ADVANCE.
Thanks Araboui for your nice words. We have a nice job and very nice customers. So yes we can make an honest living ;-)
@@heinikendude thank you so much my friend :)
You gave me hope I had lost because I love this art and find myself happy while I am practicing it. Your advice I have accepted with all my heart and I will send you the first job I start with and I hope you hear your opinion
arbaoui abdennour you’re more than welcome ! The job we do is awesome and I really love it 💎
Excelente!!!!!!
Nice
Goldsmith guy ex excellency job
Thanks Uma ;-)
Muy bonito el engastado
I have a few questions.. I am going to have 2 rings made and a wondering I get I1-I3 quality diamonds if they would be worth getting to put in the ring from 1mm to 1.5mm, and then get si diamonds 2mm - 3mm.. your opinion on that, would they look nice on a 18 kt yellow gold ring, it would have just a few more diamonds then what you used in this video... my concern is if the small i3-i1 diamonds are very cloudy and bad... can you tell when they are that small ? what is your opinion, it is very appreciated
I would never use diamonds with lower quality than SI1. Because you end up paying more for the diamond setting services than the diamonds itself. That would be pointless ;-) Good luck with your decision.
@@heinikendude , in this particular case, i would not have to pay for the labor of the job, only the gold weight per gram. it is a friend making them for me.... my question is, is the bad quality a huge turn off when a diamond is that small and there are like 40 of the next to eachother? will it have some shine and sparkle? (of course not vvs shine)
It will defenitely shine. But it will look like there is some sort of grey mask over it.... I would higly advice against it. Sorry but that´s my honest opinion
Excuse me what is the name of that long bur to cut across the settings ?
Parabéns belo trabalho !!!!!!!
Gracias!
Hi, i would like to get in to stone setting but i have no idea where to start. Is there any advice you could give me please
Hi M, email me at info@vandoorendiamonds.com
Please,tell me What this spray? Green colors .. what tne functions this device ... i’am not very speak English ..( thank you!!
Александр Корнеев Yes, what is the green thing?
He can see if the stone touches by spraying that color. If there's no mark left on the green, the stone isn't deep enough and he has to adjust the hole. If there's a mark left on the green, he can see exactly where the stone is touching on the hole.
Sorry for the late reply. Green is a spray named : occulus' it shows me the contact points. So I know where to drill deeper.
Great explanation!
101 percent artists.
Thanks Gary Jay! ;-)
love diamond
Thanks Sar!
super
Joachim moczko thanks !
@vandoorenniels
hi niels, i'm talking about fixing diamonds in an older type of technique seasonal jewels.
for example as in victorian, edwardian and georgian.
That would be a more older technique but the basic principle is the same.
@@heinikendude basically yes but but it's a pity there isn't even a video anywhere with this technique. :(
how match will you sell rings for
darlene robinson please email me at info@vandoorendiamonds.com for detailed information.
How mach is it costs?? and what the size of stones??
It you message me directly I can provide price details.
where can i find you?? Do you have a facebook or instagram p
age???
info@vandoorendiamonds.com
FB and Instagram: vandoorendiamonds
=)
vandoorenniels how much is it for you to make me one of those
Does any one know what that green spray at 13:00 is called and what is it used for. Advice much appreciated!
Looks like is Marks how far the pavilion touches the metal. So the setter must use the round bur to remove more metal.
Yes, it's you are correct. The name is Occulus Dental spray
Hi i’m also a diamondsetter (amateur), i would like to know what that green stuff is..
Hi Andijvie, Dutch I presume? ;-)
The green stuff is something from the dental industry, called contact spray.
vandoorenniels Ok, een stuk wijzer geworden van al die mooie videos van jullie.
Excellant
Almusawy Yousef thanks
Is it possible to know that the green stuff? Please
It's a dental spray I use to detect the place where the metal hits the gem/diamond.
Would you be so kind to let us know what is the black powder that you use in 22:00 minute of the video? Thank you in advance!
Enyo Burov is just the leftover of the abrasive silicone wheel.:-)
David-Alexandre Montminy occlusion spray is the right name of the green stuff, if you are looking for.
Scuse me is posible to do this whit cubic zirconia ?
Would be possible but the amount of time spent would not make sense to do this with CZ
Hi . your compass sir , how much it cost ? And where we can buy like that one ? Ty , im from Philippines
Hi Cherry, what do you mean with a compass? Or email me at info@vandoorendiamonds.com
That equipment you used first sir , to draw a line on the gold and mark it where you sit the diamond sir.
cherry ann hayahay aha ! Now I understand what you mean. We call this a divider. Juratools makes and sells these. Make sure to mention me when you order ;-)
@@heinikendude they have a site shop ? Im far , im from phillipines sir. Can you help me where can i order it ? Send me a link sir please , and ofcourse i will mention you sir , you helped me :)
Muchas gracias por compartir la bendición del Padre del Hijo y del Espíritu Santo estén en tu vida y todos los tuyos gracias
the boss!!!
What do you use to hold the diamond while you trying to place it?
This is a big prong pusher that I wet a bit with a sponge ;-)
@@heinikendude thanks
@@heinikendude I want to learn how to do gem setting and your videos help out a lot.
@@heinikendude what is the very first tool called i cant find it for the life of me
, ... it only needs time and power and concentration , sensibility and love , ... that s all ...
Haha, what a great comment! ;-) Thanks
Why do you use dental spray?
Hi liza, I tend to use dental spray when there is a very large stone which doesn't fit in to good. I can determine the remaining contact points and remove these with a drill
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Need to have better camera work. I liked parts of the clip but often camera wasn't pointed correctly to see whole process.
Hi Ann, It's hard sometimes to focus on the diamond setting and the camera work. But i'll keep it in mind ! ;-)
Did you really just say that he needs better camera work on a microscope camera? Get a life. His camera work and jewelry work is perfectly fine.
What is the tool that holds the stones at 24:50?
Hi, This is a piece of iron with a hollowed tip dipped in water.
I have seen lots of this type of clips, not one of them shows clearly how the job is done, it's either too much swarf, wrong angle of camera or light reflection.
U bent echt goed groetjes
Hala Istifan thanks voor je comment !
Taş ı önce tutkalla tutturuyor musun ?
Hi Durmus, can you please type in english, french, spanish, german or dutch? ;)
What did we do before power gravers and microscopes Eh!
I wonder if they save the gold shavings for the next ring?
NiNoLiberté Fioz yes we do! However we need a lot of gold shavings for the next ring ;-)
Почему посадочнве места не полирнул?
English? ;-)
@@heinikendude he's asking why u didn't polish setting spaces, sorry I'm not even jeweller, was just watching ur amazing work)
Omg😲😁
Thanks Rudy!
Ух ты!
I've never seen a setting where there is no opening behind the stones. I would be concerned that dirt could get back there and they couldn't be cleaned properly.
Billy Nage hi, a good hot ultrasonic with some grease dissolver will clean everything. At least in my humble opinion. If not use a steamer or pressed air.
hi I love what you do, I have some experience but I want learn more ( I have 25 years old)
Samir Namosa hi, you can contact me via info@vandoorendiamonds.com
Que tipo de buril utiliza
Hola Ricardo, utiliza un buril tipo carbide steel
Wa dep
Thanks
Excelentes ✔️📽💍⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️
Gracias Jairo!
True EXCELLENCE!
Thank you very much for your nice words !
@@heinikendude Please check your inbox. I sent a message via your website. I hope to hear from you or your office soon. Thank you
VVS ?
AMELO 100 except from the center stone yes, all VVS. Center-stone was from customers old ring. :-)
Plies muja sekaoga
Gracias
750🤔
NOT micro pave...just pain bead work...
zappa duck let’s agree to disagree.
The music is very distracting.
this music is terrible omg
Thanks for your comment ;-)
musica pedorra
You can mute it ;-)
Meh
Exelent Job but very boring
Juan Garcia it’s my passion and everything but boring to me.
Sorry that you found it boring