186 Diamond setting Yellow Gold Micro Pavé Overlay ring 1,30mm stones van dooren diamonds
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ต.ค. 2024
- In the video you see Niels van Dooren setting diamonds each measuring 1.3mm. The Ring is yellow gold and was first printed on a Form2 printer and later casted.
Visit: www.vandoorendiamonds.com
Music:
I need to start writing things down - Chris Zabriskie
Midsummer nights dream - Mendelssohn
Danse Macabre - Kevin MacLeod
Drone in D - Kevin Macleod
Funny how not 1 word is said.. and this video answers the majority of questions I had about how diamond jewelry is made
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This is how stones are set, not how jewellery is made. The jewellery is already made and he's setting the stones
This only covers pavé stone setting, and indeed in great detail. However like the description says the jewelry piece itself isn’t hand made with old school techniques but printed and cast first, extremely common these days. Goldsmiths who make this kind of ring from start to finish including the setting are rare.
People would rather pay less so those artisans and methods are becoming scarce as the printing and casting with stone setters finishing off with stones has exploded on an industrial level with a wide span of cheap and ugly to great quality work.
Unfortunately alot of people these days can’t tell the difference and don’t even bring a loup when shopping for jewelry, so many spend on cheap craftmanship.
This video is great and shows the work involved setting stones in this style.
And Mendelsohn to boot!
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hey all.. thanks for the clarification, and I do love detail.. I understand this is just the stone setting process. I was just speaking loose by saying "how jewelry is made". Stone setting is what I really meant. But thanks yall
@@gnarbeljo8980 tbh if you do casting right you can make a just as good piece in half the time and it saves a lot of effort the ones who can make it without a cast usually don’t bother since it’s so much more effort for the same amount of money
Exquisite craftsmanship. Superb video quality. Outstanding musical selection. I couldn't take my eyes and ears away for the entire length. Consider me a fan!
Rascal77s thanks rascal !
Pure art, perfectly done work. My grandma is a jeweler so I know the effort of this
Cesco Monti thanks for your appreciation !
Absolutely beautiful work, Im currently working my way up to doing things like this, starting by making simple anniversary bands. Videos like this really help me visualize new technique, so thank you so much. Im only 22, and have been in the industry since high school. I have found it very difficult to learn fabrication techniques... Because I dont see many jewelers that do it anymore, and the ones that do wont sit down and show me. So I have to teach myself... Seems like people prefer CAD to hand made stuff nowadays. Kind of a pity. Anyway, thanks for the great videos. Hope I can be this good some day.
Dylan Sewald thanks for your comment. I combine manual craftsmanship with complex cad to create unique jewelry pieces. If you ever want to get in touch feel free to reach out to me ;-)
I want to work on this field can you help me
Jump right in with pave and move to micro pave same technique just smaller. Try doing to in lay in thr sides of those bands you make.
Never knew so much work went into setting decent sized diamonds. I always knew it was many hours of labor for the tiny little dust sized ones that are usually found on watches.
But wow, thats really a multi step process for rings too. Looks like something id enjoy for work, im a perfectionist and ive got the hands of a surgeon, but cutting gold looks more fun.
Donz Milky thanks for your nice comment. It’s indeed a perfectionist job and takes many hours to do right. But I love what I do! And also do watches by the way ;-)
@@heinikendude whats the smallest diamonds youve set? Largest? Ever make anything so perfect you had to keep it for yourself? Haha
@@heinikendude what would be a list of tools necessary to start making your own jewelry?
Donz Milky send me a email info@vandoorendiamonds.com ;-)
if i cant find the words to explain how awesome this is and all im thinking is WOW. then all i can say is wow
Thanks for your WOW comment ;-)
Your work is so clean, and your bright cutting and other graver work is just excellent. I am so jealous.
Allan Fink thanks for those nice words ! Have a nice Sunday
Never seen this done, very interesting & DOPE video!! Beautiful work, I'm a fan & subscriber now💯
Aaron Walton thanks Aaron for your support ! 💪
I find your work absolutely amazing. You are patient , precise and meticulous which are not qualities we find in many people .
I am also impressed by those tiny diamonds , how on earth can they create the facets on something that small ?
Morgan Olfursson thanks for your comment and questions. It indeed takes a lot of patience and also practice. Th diamonds go as small as 0.55mm in diameter (not in this ring though) and are all precise machine cut with 57 facets.
This is phenomenal . Thanks so much for taking the time to answer . You are a tremendous artist and craftsman and though people like you are behind the most brilliant (no pun intended) creations in terms of jewelry out there today and throughout history , nobody really knows your names . It is like painting or sculpting a masterpiece and not signing it , i find it very humble and humbling at the same time .
And on a totally different note , I am a veterinarian and i don't think my hands are as steady as yours so congrats for that too, your hands and finger fine muscle control is very impressive .
Morgan Olfursson thanks for the kind words !! :-)
You need a fine hand and lotsa patience doing this job....take my hat off to you...
Simone de Silvestro thank you for those kind words.
it is very hard work for me but you did very well to make this stuffs great job I salute you my friend thank you so much
Thanks for your clear and attractive video that I cannot stop to keep on watching. I am just consider to quit my expensive jewelry making course and follow your web page.
That's really cool. I start a jewelry making class in April and this has me really excited.
Craig Avery good luck with your classes !
skills of the maestro! the stones are in second place, the real beauty is in the craft
Dave Ortegon thanks for your comment
This guy is the GOAT....he didn't even mark the spacings of the seats before going in with the FOX BURS 🥴🤳👀
We mark the distance between the holes ;-)
That's how we get an almost seamless sone fit
The man with patience.. Dam good work!
dtiydr thanks for your comment ! Very much appreciated:-)
boy o boy. i was intrested in jewelry and setting but after watch couple videos or rings ,settings etc.. shit looks hard as hell to do lol
Greg Kendrick you’ll get used to it eventually ;-)
Need lot of patience till you master each step of the setting.
yearrrsssss of practice. this looks very high skill level
Greg Kendrick i
Not just for anyone my friend..must very very much like doing it too be a pro at it... and yes no mistakes allowed
Legit just watched a whole episode of spongebob worth of gem setting ... Worth it lmao
The 619Slugger thanks ! Great comment man ;-)
That's impressive! I wish there is one here in Australia that I could learn. I love watching you how you made this beautiful ring. If your ever visit Australia please let me know, I will watch your tutorial live.
Caroline Gourlay hi Caroline , thanks for your kind words! Who knows, one day I might visit Australia. ;-)
That will be great. I hope so one day.
There’s the Jewellery Institute of Australia in Sydney with Micro Pave corses!
Amazing work. All I can think of is the amount of gold shavings you must have just built up over time.😅
Jif haha it actually looks much more then it is. But we do ‘save’ these shavings ;-)
What’s really amazing is that diamond/stone setters never throw away any dust. There’s so much Platinum and gold, all the shavings are collected in a jar and brought in to be melted down. Sprues are commonly returned
Hi Sam, Yes that is correct! ;-)
vandoorenniels it was an interesting thing I learned!
Now I know it takes a lot of time to set iced out chains and charms.💯 Much respect 😀
Thanks for your reply !
This is a great jewelry maker and a great craftsman
许逍遥 thanks !
Very awesome work 💯🤗
CRITICAL CHIRAQ SAVAGE thanks amigo !
Nice video Niels, thank you for sharing!
JF McAlister you’re welcome !
Damn there is a lot of work goes into jewellery 👀
Thanks Will! I agree that bespoke jewellery takes it time to make !
This is awesome. I'd like to start with some costume jewlery since I have no clue what I'm doing. Although I have done small machine work on fasteners. Looks to me like it's not that hard to do but almost impossible to master. Well if I get a clunky watch wit a few cz's in it I'll tag ya. Lol. Great work
How is your project coming along? Kind regards, Niels
so cool you make it look so easy, That Music tho
DELTA DJ haha I know, sorry about the music. Will change the genre over time
Intelligent stone fitting
Thanks Macherla for your nice words!
Fine job Niels :-) Not excluded for me to try some stone setting... (I'm already jewelry designer by the way)
Luc Heimdal thanks ! If you ever want to have a ‘chat’ you can reach out to me via info@vandoorendiamonds.com
Absolutely stunning!
TheGrandFanelli thank you !
Machaa lah excellent travail
Gracias!
Cute and perfect precisión I love ❤️❤️❤️so much that work to Design jewels
Thanks Charles! ;-)
DEFINITELY NO MISTAKES ALLOWED
Haha Ralph, you're completely correct!
Amazing quality work! It looks as if you generally use a 60° carbide graver but do you also shape the graver face to 60°? It looks a bit steeper in the video, possibly 65°-70°. Thank you in advance!
Yes, the face is a bit different. I sharpen it to what feels good .
Nice job!
Thanks!
Very nice bravo 👏🏻
Thanks Kiro
beautiful work
B-Tour thanks for your comment !
Absolutly stunning, but how do you drill so perfectly without a starting centre pop or hole from a ball burr?
Hi David,
I just use very very low rotations. only 300/minute
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Marino Domokus thanks you !
My momma gave me the coolest designer watch in rose gold, steel, and blue. I want it polished and turn it into a bussdown.. 🤔
Hmmmm .....
Send me a message on Instagram @icefreezejewelry I could come up with something for you 💯
Thank you - phenomenal video!
You're welcome!
这是伟大的首饰制造艺术家，伟大的工匠精神。
许逍遥 thanks I guess ? Do you also have an English translation ? Regards
I always wondered how people have bust down watches, chains or rings and their diamonds dont fall out. Som you put them in and then clasp them down . So freaking logical lol
Thanks David for your nice comment!
Badass.. sheeet.. WISH I can mk myself one.. dope
Frost666Hwy Ajohnson thanks !
Very nice work. I mean the setting job
Dude’s nails look crazy
YoungSubaru88 haha yes is from all the stress and manual labor;-)
Your stone setting skill is better than me and I like your graving tools. Can I ask a question Sir, is your yellow gold ring purely alloyed with silver or it's a silver alloyed with yellow gold alloy?
Yaring Platero this is 18kt yellow gold
Exelentes videos para los colegas mil gracias
Nice settings
Thanks Murshid!
How long does it usually take to make one of these amazing pieces? And I have to say, I love the choice of music. I've always wondered how things like this were made.
Jennifer Brewer thanks for your reaction ! This was a ‘big one’, took me about 12 hours, just the stone setting.
3 hours max
Beautifully done
Is it real 186 pure diamond and gold?
How much it price? Hope my wife not watch this 😰
*commentator* hahaha ! Yes 186 diamonds and 18kt gold. You can send email to info@vandoorendiamonds.com for a quote ;-)
*commentator* 😂😂😂
Not a single word, yet speaks a thousand, and answers a thousand questions for a begging jeweler doing simple wire wrapping.
You're welcome Ravan!
ឃើញសម្ភារៈល្អៗ❤❤
What do you use to keep the diamonds in place? Is it some special glue or something?
And very nice work! Very clean. Respect
Oh wait, you use pieces of the gold to keep them in place dont you?
Jurick Soekhai yes I bend over tiny tiny prongs. There is no glue even coming near the piece of jewelry
Hey! Very informative video, thanks for making this. I'm a newbie at these things but how are diamonds held in place in stainless steels? Does the prong bending method work on harder metals too?
dj ilu hi and thanks for the comment. Stainless steel works the same way , only is a bit harder due to the characteristics of the metal
Ah thanks! is brass a good metal to train with?
dj ilu yes ! Definitely brass or 925 silver. Good luck ;-)
I gotta ask as an artist myself. What happens with a mistake, is it often possible to repair, or are you just that good...?
I am a hyper realism artist using pencil, if I make a mistake its usually not possible to "erase" it, and I often change the piece or start fresh.
azonicrider32 we dont make any mistakes ;-)
Nice work bro.
Amazing skill and experience, but i dont understand how the diamonds get holder, they dont felt down? Just putting inside like that? I mean i think there was some king of glue or something like that, hahaha sorry for my bad english, can somebody explain me please, im so curious..
theskullgamer 78 no glue ! Definitely not ;-) diamonds are all hold by tiny prongs that are left over after all the cutting. These are eventually bent over the diamonds as you see towards the end of the video
@@heinikendude thanks for the answer, yes now i understand, still not understanding how you create the tiny prong, well i can stay all day watching your job.... Makes me want to try, when i see your passion and how beautiful its the ring, i really want to try, great skill, great job Sir, greetings from Italy
theskullgamer 78 thanks mate !
I love this video. I am an apprentice jeweler about to be a C bench jeweler and I have to ask, what is the tool you are using to hold the diamonds when you are setting them? I've never seen that before. Right now all I use is a pair of tweezers or a bit of wax. Thanks!
J Grizzle thanks for your question. This is a big beading tool which I dip in water to create a adhesion effect on the table of the tiny diamonds
Soo nice.....
Butyfull.....
Akash Biswas thanks for your comment
I, a diamond installer from jakarta indonesia,😊😊😊👍👍👍
OumEdy JWL thanks !
u r not installer , in jewelry business we call "setter". Diamond setter :) .
@@nats3506 , yes, I mean that, :) r u same, setter diamond ?
Yes, I'm. I have 48 years of experience as Master Jeweler . If u r good with your skills I suggest , move to USA, you will make good money ,more than in Jakarta .
Btw,How many years of experience do you have ?
How do you do this as a career? I've always liked jewelry and how it's made and just everything about it is there certain schooling you have to take?
Jose Tostado yes, currently as a side career. It took me quite some time to train.
That's beautiful!Thanks.
Владимир Малобродский you’re welcome
may i ask how did you record this?! love the close up on the pave setting! amazing work
Those diamonds are being set quite close to one another...If the ring ever bends they'll want to pop out
Nathan Kay totally correct ! That’s why the ring is tailor made and if we would need to resize it every stone would need to be checked.
So awesome! What kind of tools are used here?
Most of the tools used are from Jura Tools, if you mention which you mean by indicating the minute marker I can be more specific.
It would be nice if one side was full of white diamonds, and the other side with black diamonds. Like a ying yang...
Katerina Patiniotis love your idea ! Might be something for the next time. ;-)
vandoorenniels Oh thank you! It would have a bold and contemporary look. I love jewellery..I make them too. Imagine the sparkle on the black diamonds...with the white ones!!
Very beauty ..very beauty i want ..
Diamond
Ayiensky Ayiensky thanks ;-)
How much does it cost to set that many diamonds! I need some diamonds set in a custom piece
Hi Maine, email me at info@vandoorendiamonds.com and we will provide you with a quote
Beautiful work What type of microscope or camera do you use if I may ask. Am interested on getting new technology.
Julio Goyzueta hi, we use simple Sony camera with magnifying lens
Thank you for answering me.
Maravilloso !!! Qué medidas tiene ese trazado que hiciste con el compás ???
Gracias para tu mensaje
Magnifique très beaux
Amani merci pour votre commentaire
Gümüş de bu şekilde çalışmak kolay fakat 18 k bu kadar kolay olmuyor çok güzel oldu eline sağlık
Please translate ;-)
Amazing!! Absolutely gorgeous!! How long does the process take?
Lori Spears about 3 days I guess ;-) without designing and casting and finishing the ring. So just the setting
I'm
Hi, the stones seem to sit nice and tight even before beading. If setting a 2mm stone, do you use a 2mm ball bur in the end to cut seat or use a smaller bur than the stone size so stone sits tight?
You see that very correctly. I normally drill with a round bur of 1.30 mm but after drilling 100 + holes the bur is not 1.30 but more like 1.26 - 1.28 due to the wearing of the metal. As the gold is relatively soft and the diamonds very hard I can gently push the stones in ;-)
@@heinikendude thank you for the explanation.. great work
is the bur the same width as the diamond? also, when you measure distances between diamonds, how much space do you give them? or are they just flushed together?
Hi Mostefa, Yes the burr is the same width. I try to flush these diamonds together as tightly as possible. So perhaps 1.32 mm for 1.30 mm diamonds
@@heinikendude thanks so much for being a great resource of knowledge for us youtubers!
The drill you use in the video is it powered by anything? Or is some kind of mechanical drill that works by pushing down on it?
James Palmer thanks for asking. It’s an electric powered drill which is controlled by a foot pedal
Thanks for useful video. Whats that drill bit brand you used? 3:00 and so on. It looks shorter tip than i use.
Hi, this is a small carbide tip Bush drill. I love it because it gives better stability.
Zo mooi!
Why is it that you open up with a small ball but then a bigger one? Thanks.
So I can very very precisely correct the small differences. If I start big It is almost impossible to get such a detailed and close result. ;-)
Are the seats cut to exact size of stone or slightly smaller so stone sits tight? Eg: 2mm ball bur for 2mm round stone?
Seats are cut to the exact size. But over time a 1.3mm round burr 'rounds' off so it's more like 1.28 .
Interesting. Is the Form 2 not precise enough to reduce the work needed to measure and drill? Seems like it could at least make pilot holes to make it quicker.
Hi Chip,
I guess it might be an option. However this level and quality of diamond setting work goes up to 0.01 mm precision. So I always prefer to actually take the gold product and start measuring/making calculations from there on. As there is always shrinkage in 3D printing, in casting and in polishing etc. ;-)
I'm getting into this craft because I love it always admired the craftsmanship of a great piece of jewelry, do you have any advice?
Hi 'X', that is very nice to hear! Any advice,... well about what? Where to start? I would advice to find a good teacher or friend who can help you with the basics ;-)
Very nice work! What kind of tool do you use to pick up the stones?
A Hollow nail
Very nice
What is the tool you use to actually pick up the stones, and push them down into the seats?
Hi Cory,
Sorry for the delayed response.
It's a nail with a hollow tip.
Or you can also use an old beading tool
Do you save the gold remaining from the drilling?
Victor Petrovski of course we do ! ;-)
what a amazing video!! would you please tell the tools that you have used to make this jewel?
Muchas gracias por compartir la bendición del Padre del Hijo y del Espíritu Santo estén en tu vida y todos los tuyos gracias
Beautiful!
Minnie Earhart thanks Minnie
What size drill bit did you use ? Can I get some help please need to know what size drill bits to use with different size stones ?
How do I set like you? Where can I learn from? Do you teach?
Hi !
You need to find a master stone setter to teach you, I unfortunately don't teach but if you email me I can hook you up with a contact. info@vandoorendiamonds.com
Very nice, Müthiş, muhteşem...
Thanks you Elit!
Can you sir plzz tell the name of those tools for (cutting,drilling etc...) plz if u can
Hi Monist, Check out Juratools and mention my name ;-)
Is this something a beginner can do? Let's say if I were to practice with cheaper stones and cheaper jewelry piece. What's a reason number of hours to expect to have the skills to do such a thing?
dbjungle thanks for asking. I would say that it will take you approx 2-3 years to be able to do this with a decent quality and making sure the stones won’t fall out after wearing it for half a year. Good luck !
vandoorenniels thanks for the reply! i was curious because i didn't find a lot of jewewlers who would do custom work. it doesn't seem that it's something that can be done without obtaining some degree of mastery. im not sure if i want to take the journey knowing how much time would be involved. it's very compelling. it seems a big portion of the value in these kind of pieces is the craftsmanship. your video definitely wowed me!
dbjungle thanks for the appreciation! Reach out to me via: info@vandoorendiamonds.com for custom request. Kind regards
Much Satisfying
sunpresso 108 thanks for your comment
What is the tool used to make the markings in the first seconds of the video? Thanks.
Hi, this is what we, diamond setters, call a divider. A very finely sharpend divider to mark the distances between the holes
Like the triply guitar song at the end playing at 28:06
Thanks Peanutfoot
i enjoyed the hungarian rhapsody no.2
L D V good to hear! Hope you also enjoyed the diamond setting
Hi. What microscope you use? And what lenses is good for working?
Emil Diaco see my other comment ;-)