The sensei is very popular in finland, it fits really well with the wooded courses here. It's dead straight new and when worn down it doesnt fade at all, it just creeps to the right on a backhand throw.
I found a used 174g Sensei Active Premium for $5 and had to check it out. The heavier weight was much more stable than the beginner pack weights, and taught this beginner a lot about approach shots. Loved it so much that I got 3 Mind Benders, 2 Midnight Prowls, an Origin, a Razor Claw 3, an MD3, and an Essence.
Sensei was my first putting putter, even though I was told most people throw it. I plan on switching towards a discmania bag in the future and maybe I’ll try to throw it again. I do throw a warped beat in base sensei occasionally. Flips and goes pretty far
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I think people are often very narrow minded and want to buy the popular disc at a high price/poor availability when there are great or better alternatives available off the shelf. This is especially true with overstable distance drivers. For example the Enigma is better than the DD3/Cloudbreaker for most players and the Firebird isn’t the only overstable fairway driver out there. Supporting your favourite pro or getting a cool, exclusive disc is a whole other story. For discs that you buy to improve your game - there are great underrated alternatives available.
Nice video as always! :) I was wondering if you have tried the Yikun Gui (an amazing putter I use for both putting and throwing) It has the flight numbers 2,3,0,2; but when comparing its profile to the Discmania Sensei their shape is almost 100% identical. Could it be that it is (almost) the same mold, considering that it is the same producer (I must say that the Gui feels a touch more premium though usually with less flashing and then also the two different grip zones under it)? If you have access to the Gui (either in baseline Tiger plastic which is amazing, or in the more premium Dragon plastic) a comparison with the Discmania Sensei would be amazing!
Yeah, I wanted to stick with premium plastic putters for this video. But I agree! I have a few Vapor Links for the store and they feel great! Like a board flat judge!
it looks like everyones senseis are stable to understable. i have been throwing one in the woods for about 4 months and mine really is just starting to be stable. it is very turn resistant, feels like a 1 in turn honestly. this is the reason it is competing for a spot in the bag against esp tour series luna.
Solid video once again. Had a sensei when started but couldn't throw it at all because my form was so horrible. I throw a Pure now they're pretty close.
@@readguthrie1241 Same, I think they will eventually since a few of the pros throw them! If you can find one, the extra soft ones are surprisingly durable for throwing, I've been using the same one for months and it still flies the way it did straight out of the box
Yeah, for this video I wanted to stick with the premium options. But I got a few logic’s in for the store and I agree, they feel great! I bet a premium option for that would be sick! Both the Logic and the Link are great feeling putters!
Thank you again for a great honest review man. Champions cup really exposed me to quality reviews. People hate on the active line because swanky people talk a lot of crap when they are not very good at disc golf Lol
@@ApolloDiscGolfYear has gone by, and they came around making the P3X. Excellent putt and approach. Still loving my 174g Sensei though. Been using ever since you released this video and now it slowly, slowly drifts to the right with barely any fade. Absolute staple in my bag!
If anyone wants a beaded throwing putter, i can recommend Gurus new Mad Mission disc in the Glacial Line plastic (if you can get ahold of it outside of norway that is). Feels like a skygod with a bead (a shogun i guess) and flyes for ages (somehow it is classified as a mid, but has 3 3 0 3 flight numbers). Its just amazing. Would love to see a review of that disc tbh.
@@ApolloDiscGolf Their discs actually used to be made by Innova. I had a Midgaard driver that was pretty similar to a Leopard. It had Innova tooling on the bottom.
I thought my Active Sensei had a sharp edge, the Active Soft weren't as sharp. Now I don't think I'd grip it the same so should get a Sensei in Active Premium soon.
I got a crappy plastic sensei with an ugly off-center stamp in a mystery box. It has a super *sharp* rim. I don't care too much about hand feel - I throw Comets - but this thing is loathsome.
@@ApolloDiscGolf I have 3 base Sensei's and one premium one. The base ones are okay, but I don't like the overly grippy feeling during summer, so I tried the premium one i bought ages ago and bam, paper cut. 😂
Anybody else have an understandable SkyGod IV? I love it for throwing I just have to hyzer flip mine for straight shots unless I want to get an S flight out of it. I bag a rainmaker to throw/putt with also but it's just "stable" for me.
My Skygod is a wobble monster. It flips and goes further than I want. It bounces out of the chains like no other putter too. It is easily in my top 5 worst discs of all time. Discmania is so good at marketing, but the discs aren't ideal imo.
@@jaythejuiceman3000 P2 flex2, rainmaker (flex3) and my SkyGod I use for different situations and distances. Finicky for sure but they are all technically different and are not consistent depending on the run. Just part of the journey to build your bag my friend, as with every disc manufacturer unfortunately
@@KraXxuS I like the p2 and own a rainmaker as well. The plastic was just so cheap. I use a Sexton Firefly since the plastic is just superior. My rainmaker lasted about 3 days before the gouges were too noticeable in my hand. The NS Firefly just tends to fly a bit smoother imo. I have had some friends throw both and they seem to agree with me as well.
All Active/Base plastic by Yikun for DM is between 165 and 170g but they go above to 172g and such. It's true for Sensei/Shogun/Maestro/Genius/Magician/Mentor. Don't think Majesty or Rockstar can be found in base plastic. Most of the discs aren't new but renamed. Sensei is formerly the Guardian Warrior and then the Tiger Warrior.
*Old Discmania molds, there seems to be an unofficial story of the "animals" in Discmanias lineup having to be renamed to not get mixed up with Innovas own "animals". There was another plausible story as well but thats my take :)
Sensei aka Tiger Warrior aka Guardian Lion was approved around the same time as the Innova Lion, which was why it was changed initially. Definitely love the mold and wish the base plastic was a little firmer and came in max weights for putting purposes.
I think the Pure and Sensei would probably fill the same spot, I think they would be pretty similar in both flight and feel. And the Jokeri feels every different, closer to a Pig in feel. But I am loving the Jokeri! It’s a great overstable putter between something like the Pure and a Zone type disc. But I would put it closer to the Zone than the Pure. I bag it to fill the slot between my premium Luna and my Zone!
Sensei is a little more stable (not overstable) but considerably shallower in the feel. I think Sensei copy the envy mold Bc when comparing the two they are almost identical molds. Also note a heavier Sensei was deeper Bc the light one I got took off weight by less deep rim
I think pink sensei tends to have more dome and the plastic is stiffer. I throw drivers 360ft and I can throw sensei full power and it doesn't flip over and goes pretty far.
Watched a video reviewing the SkyGod Sensei and shogun. Got a Sensei in a mystery box never threw it. I'm gonna try it out cuz of it's better slim feel for my little baby hands 🤣
By touchy I mean it doesn’t mask you mistakes as much… meaning you have to throw it clean for it to fly well! When the P2 you can put full power into it and not worry as much about throwing it clean because it should still fly straight. When you have to focus on having a good, clean throw when using the Sensei otherwise it will turn over pretty easy! That’s what I mean by touchy
@@ApolloDiscGolf I drive about 475’ I may be putting too much on it when I throw. I will say it is torque resistant though, it won’t turn unless I put it on anny
@@noodles_GA well that would do it 😂 I only throw about 375-380! And even when I drive with Putters I don’t throw them as hard as I can otherwise I have really bad off axis torque
@@ApolloDiscGolf Limited runs but there has been several. Not sure if they are in the US as often as in EU though. A couple drops has been in honor of finish players and I think they only dropped in Europe.
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The sensei is very popular in finland, it fits really well with the wooded courses here. It's dead straight new and when worn down it doesnt fade at all, it just creeps to the right on a backhand throw.
Yeah? I don’t see it a bunch in KC. But yeah, I bet people can destroy wooded courses with this disc! It is great!
Base plastic Sensei love them and yeah you cannot find the higher weights in sensei's
Fantastic video - thorough yet concise. Thanks for posting 👍👍
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
I found a used 174g Sensei Active Premium for $5 and had to check it out. The heavier weight was much more stable than the beginner pack weights, and taught this beginner a lot about approach shots. Loved it so much that I got 3 Mind Benders, 2 Midnight Prowls, an Origin, a Razor Claw 3, an MD3, and an Essence.
Trying to sell one of those mindbenders lol?
Sensei was my first putting putter, even though I was told most people throw it. I plan on switching towards a discmania bag in the future and maybe I’ll try to throw it again. I do throw a warped beat in base sensei occasionally. Flips and goes pretty far
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Thank you, I appreciate it. And I’m glad you like the content!
I think people are often very narrow minded and want to buy the popular disc at a high price/poor availability when there are great or better alternatives available off the shelf. This is especially true with overstable distance drivers. For example the Enigma is better than the DD3/Cloudbreaker for most players and the Firebird isn’t the only overstable fairway driver out there. Supporting your favourite pro or getting a cool, exclusive disc is a whole other story. For discs that you buy to improve your game - there are great underrated alternatives available.
Oh for sure! And a lot of times they aren't the discs that the pros are throwing!
fantastic review again. Very comprehensive. I'm kinda sold on the sensei, as the warden's my main putter
Thanks Bryce! And they are definitely similar to a Warden, They do have a different feel though!
Nice video as always! :)
I was wondering if you have tried the Yikun Gui (an amazing putter I use for both putting and throwing) It has the flight numbers 2,3,0,2; but when comparing its profile to the Discmania Sensei their shape is almost 100% identical. Could it be that it is (almost) the same mold, considering that it is the same producer (I must say that the Gui feels a touch more premium though usually with less flashing and then also the two different grip zones under it)?
If you have access to the Gui (either in baseline Tiger plastic which is amazing, or in the more premium Dragon plastic) a comparison with the Discmania Sensei would be amazing!
The Vapor Link (Arctic Fang) worth adding to that list, not as deep/domey, has a bead, worth comparing as a thrower.
Yeah, I wanted to stick with premium plastic putters for this video. But I agree! I have a few Vapor Links for the store and they feel great! Like a board flat judge!
it looks like everyones senseis are stable to understable. i have been throwing one in the woods for about 4 months and mine really is just starting to be stable. it is very turn resistant, feels like a 1 in turn honestly. this is the reason it is competing for a spot in the bag against esp tour series luna.
Yeah it is very similar to my Luna!
Solid video once again. Had a sensei when started but couldn't throw it at all because my form was so horrible. I throw a Pure now they're pretty close.
Oh yeah, this and the pure are practically the same! Both great discs!
Love your stuff man. Great review and great explanations of the differences between the molds. Keep it up!
Thank you! Glad you like the videos!
Always a solid fair review!!
Thank you!
I have a c- line glow shogun. Very straight. Nice compliment to my sky god 4
Yeah, if you like the feel of deeper putter the Shogun is solid!
Same mine is kinda stable tho unless I torque on it.
Just played this course last weekend!
Yeah it's a solid course! really fun!
I highly recommend the Discmania Logic if the Sensei isn't comfortable in the hand. They fly really similar, the logic may just be a bit slower
Here here! Although I get why he’s comparing these, all have very similar feel (deep) therefore not for myself. I wish they’d drop a Logic in premium.
@@readguthrie1241 Same, I think they will eventually since a few of the pros throw them! If you can find one, the extra soft ones are surprisingly durable for throwing, I've been using the same one for months and it still flies the way it did straight out of the box
Yeah, for this video I wanted to stick with the premium options. But I got a few logic’s in for the store and I agree, they feel great! I bet a premium option for that would be sick! Both the Logic and the Link are great feeling putters!
Thank you again for a great honest review man. Champions cup really exposed me to quality reviews.
People hate on the active line because swanky people talk a lot of crap when they are not very good at disc golf Lol
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoy the reviews!
I wish they made more of a premium link. I absolutely love just how the link fly’s as a throwing putter!
Yeah, I totally would have included a premium link if I knew about them! And even then, they aren't readily available!
Tuomas Hyytiäinen Lux Links are available at Discmania Store Europe.
There are Neo Links on OTB
You makin need want to throw these sensei’s I’ve got
Dude, they are solid! Just a bummer that they don’t make them heavier!
The also have the P3X although it's not currently in production.
Yeah, I haven’t thrown the P3x before! I’m guessing they won’t get around to making those for a while since they are still working on their staples!
@@ApolloDiscGolfYear has gone by, and they came around making the P3X. Excellent putt and approach.
Still loving my 174g Sensei though. Been using ever since you released this video and now it slowly, slowly drifts to the right with barely any fade. Absolute staple in my bag!
If anyone wants a beaded throwing putter, i can recommend Gurus new Mad Mission disc in the Glacial Line plastic (if you can get ahold of it outside of norway that is). Feels like a skygod with a bead (a shogun i guess) and flyes for ages (somehow it is classified as a mid, but has 3 3 0 3 flight numbers). Its just amazing.
Would love to see a review of that disc tbh.
Guru discs are made by Yikun just like the Discmania Active line so I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same exact mold as the Shogun.
Interesting, I haven’t heard of them before. I will have to look into them!
@@ApolloDiscGolf Their discs actually used to be made by Innova. I had a Midgaard driver that was pretty similar to a Leopard. It had Innova tooling on the bottom.
Now II’ll say that Sensei e in the starting pack in the basic plastic will wear down and becomes to under stable based on its numbers
good stuff!! I like the link too
I don't know why but my premium Sensei has a really sharp bottom rim, which literally gave me a paper cut once.
I thought my Active Sensei had a sharp edge, the Active Soft weren't as sharp. Now I don't think I'd grip it the same so should get a Sensei in Active Premium soon.
I got a crappy plastic sensei with an ugly off-center stamp in a mystery box. It has a super *sharp* rim. I don't care too much about hand feel - I throw Comets - but this thing is loathsome.
Interesting! I didn’t really notice anything like that with mine. But I only got a few of them, so I had a small sample size!
@@ApolloDiscGolf I have 3 base Sensei's and one premium one. The base ones are okay, but I don't like the overly grippy feeling during summer, so I tried the premium one i bought ages ago and bam, paper cut. 😂
You are missing noe or lux links, these are absolutely great
Yeah, honestly I didn't even know they made links in premium plastic when I made this video!
Anybody else have an understandable SkyGod IV? I love it for throwing I just have to hyzer flip mine for straight shots unless I want to get an S flight out of it. I bag a rainmaker to throw/putt with also but it's just "stable" for me.
Mine isn’t under stable but it’s definitely a straight flyer. I use mine for 75 and in up shots when I don’t want the glide of my envy’s
My Skygod is a wobble monster. It flips and goes further than I want. It bounces out of the chains like no other putter too. It is easily in my top 5 worst discs of all time. Discmania is so good at marketing, but the discs aren't ideal imo.
@@jaythejuiceman3000 P2 flex2, rainmaker (flex3) and my SkyGod I use for different situations and distances. Finicky for sure but they are all technically different and are not consistent depending on the run. Just part of the journey to build your bag my friend, as with every disc manufacturer unfortunately
@@KraXxuS I like the p2 and own a rainmaker as well. The plastic was just so cheap. I use a Sexton Firefly since the plastic is just superior. My rainmaker lasted about 3 days before the gouges were too noticeable in my hand. The NS Firefly just tends to fly a bit smoother imo. I have had some friends throw both and they seem to agree with me as well.
All Active/Base plastic by Yikun for DM is between 165 and 170g but they go above to 172g and such. It's true for Sensei/Shogun/Maestro/Genius/Magician/Mentor. Don't think Majesty or Rockstar can be found in base plastic. Most of the discs aren't new but renamed. Sensei is formerly the Guardian Warrior and then the Tiger Warrior.
Interesting! I didn’t know they are just old Yikun molds! They are solid molds! Maybe they make the Sensei in heavier weights in their old mold!
*Old Discmania molds, there seems to be an unofficial story of the "animals" in Discmanias lineup having to be renamed to not get mixed up with Innovas own "animals". There was another plausible story as well but thats my take :)
Sensei aka Tiger Warrior aka Guardian Lion was approved around the same time as the Innova Lion, which was why it was changed initially.
Definitely love the mold and wish the base plastic was a little firmer and came in max weights for putting purposes.
Sensei is great! Goes straight, maybe a little drift to the right, when thrown with slightest hyzer.
Yeah, this disc is slept on for sure!
I’ve been looking for a more stable compliment to my opto pure. Do you think the Sensai feels similar?
Also I’m looking at the jokeri which i think you throw
I think the sensei would work for that spot in the bag, feel and flight.
I think the Pure and Sensei would probably fill the same spot, I think they would be pretty similar in both flight and feel. And the Jokeri feels every different, closer to a Pig in feel. But I am loving the Jokeri! It’s a great overstable putter between something like the Pure and a Zone type disc. But I would put it closer to the Zone than the Pure. I bag it to fill the slot between my premium Luna and my Zone!
Sensei is a little more stable (not overstable) but considerably shallower in the feel. I think Sensei copy the envy mold Bc when comparing the two they are almost identical molds. Also note a heavier Sensei was deeper Bc the light one I got took off weight by less deep rim
I think pink sensei tends to have more dome and the plastic is stiffer. I throw drivers 360ft and I can throw sensei full power and it doesn't flip over and goes pretty far.
I don’t always bag my Sensei. However, I do agree that it is an excellent approach disc.
Watched a video reviewing the SkyGod Sensei and shogun. Got a Sensei in a mystery box never threw it. I'm gonna try it out cuz of it's better slim feel for my little baby hands 🤣
If my sensei was heavier I would use it more. Great disc and feels good in the hand.
Yeah it’s such a great disc!
Man the discmania logic is the best throwing putter in the world. In the soft plastic it's just crazy good. Do that one
I will have to review it! I wanted to focus on the premium plastic ones for this one! But the Logic's seem great!
I love my sensei
It's a great disc that I don't see enough of!
Yikun makes great disks
Yeah, I heard they make Prodigy’s new stuff which that stuff feels great too!
what does "touchy" mean?
By touchy I mean it doesn’t mask you mistakes as much… meaning you have to throw it clean for it to fly well! When the P2 you can put full power into it and not worry as much about throwing it clean because it should still fly straight. When you have to focus on having a good, clean throw when using the Sensei otherwise it will turn over pretty easy! That’s what I mean by touchy
Sensei is very popular in Finland
Yeah, that's what I hear! I can totally see why! They are great discs!
I want an Understable Hooker God, when does that come out?
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I got a ace with a sensei in tournament play
Oh man! That would be sick!
I have a 172g Active Premium Sensei as my main throwing putter. It is just money
It’s so good!
Putters are the best of the active line
Yeah, I want to try a few of their other stuff! It all looks understable outside of their putters
My skygod 4 is the same color as yours and it is NOT stable at all. Flies dead straight
That's funny because mine is totally beefy, almost tactic range.
@@FennaFullmer0 my tactic is in tactic range 😂 it’s what I go to when my zone isn’t beefy enough
Yeah, the few that I have thrown or seen are really beefy!
@@ApolloDiscGolf I drive about 475’ I may be putting too much on it when I throw. I will say it is torque resistant though, it won’t turn unless I put it on anny
@@noodles_GA well that would do it 😂
I only throw about 375-380! And even when I drive with Putters I don’t throw them as hard as I can otherwise I have really bad off axis torque
Lux link is money
They don't make those stock do they? or are they just limited runs?
@@ApolloDiscGolf Limited runs but there has been several. Not sure if they are in the US as often as in EU though.
A couple drops has been in honor of finish players and I think they only dropped in Europe.
@@andreastimotic7486 Yeah, Chris with Miss Frisbees had one, but I had never seen one before I saw his!
@@ApolloDiscGolf Get your hands on one and you wont regret it!
Yeah I definitely enjoyed throwing my sensei until I threw it in the water, heh.
RIP. I'm sorry for your loss...
Sensei being made in China is a deal breaker.
I can understand that! I still think they are solid discs though