I Bought a Tech Disc!!! [Testing How Fast I Can Throw]
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"they aren't interested in marketing".... *continues to pull out 50 stickers* lol
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Great demo and absolutely incredible spin rates! I tested the hell out of my grip options, forehand included. Realized the disc wasn't ripping from my hand and jumped from 56 to 60 mph with a couple hundred more RPMs, all in two sessions! Clearly not a problem you have, but you'll find all sorts of A/B tests to run.
Bro, nothing wrong with being a disc golfer or a disc golf youtuber. Rock that shit with pride!
Love mine! Did some throws when I got it immediately and then adjusted a few things shortly after. Immediately told me the changes I made increased speed by about 3 mph and drastically improved spin and nose angle. Game changer for getting better!
I use one often and wow the comparison in numbers. You are truly reaching that pro potential and consistency. I know you got a lot more to improve as well. I hope Im able to train my body and work on my form to reach numbers like yours. So impressive and we are the same size too with small hands
Been waiting for this video, this seems very attractive for gathering data. Stoked.
Faster run up definitely doesnt equal more speed unless your form is already dialed. all that power is just leaking out from form errors.
These are so fun, definitely want to have some more thows with them at some point.
Very helpful video. I have seen these tech discs around but I’ve been on the fence. Now after watching this video, I think I’m going to make the investment. Also, your form is looking great compared to the tournaments we played together beginning of last season. Keep up the good work.
Love your content 😁 Don't know if you've made a video on this in the past, but would love a video on some exercises in the gym! Wintertime in Norway, good opportunity to build strength and flexebility in the off-season :D
Same.
Awesome demo
I have one of these. It's pretty cool seeing all the metrics. I always thought I throw nose up but I don't, it's my launch angle that is too high. Also I've been told I throw anhyzer but it's actually hyzer. Neat to know.
This seriously looks like the next step for disc golf. Getting these in the hands of retailers/avid disc golfers and figuring out what you need and what you can improve on.
I think it was one of Uli's teaching videos he said check your nose angle and hyzer angle pre throw during training sessions. It helped me
Mason Ford taught me to relax my shoulder back when throwing. He’s like 5’4” and 130lbs and throws 67 mph.
I tend to push my shoulder socket back with the reach back. It is not beneficial unless the return to the resting position is in perfect timing.
When you say relax back, do you mean your shoulder should be rolled back like people say with correct posture and chest out, or hanging forward?
@@Christian-vl1du yes correct posture. Not shrugged or forward just the same as the off arm.
@brandynbeyer5130 thanks for the reply!
Hey man, I’m a short guy like you, with smaller hands as well. I had a real problem with throwing nose up for a long time. You still bomb, and I’m stuck at 380’, but here’s something that helped me get the nose down. I took my index finger off the rim completely, so my “power” grip is my middle, ring and pinky fingers only. The index finger just kinda rests on the outside of the rim. This way I don’t have to pronate my wrist down so much. This made a huge difference for me. Love the channel!
You can try what overthrow has suggested.
Just hold the disc out in front of you (arm fully extended forward) with your off arm, at a nose down angle. Then with your throwing arm/hand, grab the disc while keeping it at that angle.
Your fingers will end up how you personally need to hold it to achieve that nose down angle
I'm interested in seeing long-term reviews. I have my doubts about gluing a more rigid piece of plastic (the sensor) to a flexible piece of plastic (the disc) and then yeeting it into a backstop a thousand times. I'm concerned that the flex might fatigue the epoxy over time and we won't see the effects until a given disc has 10,000 throws or so. I definitely want one, but I want to know how long they last first.
I'm def interested in that as well and will follow up after the offseason. I'll likely have thousands of throws on it at that point!
Yeah, I think you would want to ultrasonic weld them together, but don’t know if you can do that with two different plastics…
10,000 throws is a lot. That would probably be a decade for most users.
@@Quixote56 It's 100 throws a day for ~3 months. That's a lot if you're talking about playing rounds. It's well within the possibilities of an offseason training program, and probably on the low end for a disc golf store that's advertising Tech Disc sessions.
Looking good
Good video man you deserve a sponsorship for this ill buy from your affiliate nice job
I thought I might comment now before I get too far into this video. I 'll be watching to see your results. This looks quite interesting.
23:05 I noticed the same thing with my techdisc. The harder I tried to throw fast the slower it goes. Not by much but when I smooth one out it and be more form oriented, the faster my speed is and better my nose angle. I definitely need to throw like 2-3 thousand throws with the slower smooth throw before building it up. Simon said on uli’s channel, muscles are dumb. Muscle memory is hard to create and takes time. It is possible and is a thing, it just takes time and effort.
So, obviously take this with a HUGE grain of salt considering you're way better than I am, but I got one piece of advice recently that has been a game changer for me and that might help with your "wrist pop". That advice was "feel like you're pressing down through your thumb" during the wrist release. At 16:37 it looks like you're basically showing a perfect example of the feeling I've been going for. I'm loving all of the form content- a lot of the form content on YT seems to be beginner-focused and/or pretty "high level" so it's awesome to have some longer-form (heh) stuff really going into detail!
Wobble is an important metric, but it's nearly impossible to have 0 wobble. But the closer you are to that, the better. The more wobble you have, the more gyroscopic forces are needed to correct. Also the more wobble, the more understable the disc is, and the more the disc flips up during the early part of the flight. That wobble will also slow the disc down a lot in the early part of its flight.
You're right in that the limb's placement, movement, and rotation is determined by the upstream joint. So it helps to look upward as a part of causal analysis for any issue downsteam.
Same color techdisc as mine. Glad you got one. It's been game changing for me so far.
Also I don't think the sim is very accurate tbh. It's a little on the conservative side on distance
for me form should be watched via upshots.. look at Eagle and Simon for their upshots.. they twist with the body never extending arm and you see the secret imo!
Yeah those things look super helpful. You said you want to ge the nose angle to around zero, I would think you would want it around -5 or so. In the negatives on that disc, that would be nose down right? Thanks for posting this, if I get one I'll use ur name.
It's more nose down the faster it's thrown. At speeds he was hitting 3 to 4 degrees negative is nose down. He is actually severely nose up.
Most people grip the disc harder as they come through the shot. With improper grips and a generally poor understanding of form and how discs fly, it's an easy mistake to make. But honestly kind of an embarrassing issue to have still at his speeds. He such have been addressing this before all his other issues
Let's go Anthony!!!!
1.3k views. 15k likes. Well done Anthony.
Anyway, very interested in this disc so thanks for sharing.
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Tech disc is awesome for instant feedback. I got a driver and have been using it for a month or so now; it's great to experiment with. I've been waiting to see your numbers since we are in similar places in our form journey (chasing 500') and have similar physiques. Given this I assumed we would be in the same ballpark; and for the most part we are, EXCEPT your spin is insane. Mid 1400s are some pro level RPMs there, freaking congrats. I cannot break 1200 for the life of me right now, has to be the final whip at the end of the motion I'm missing. Side note: I also discovered I was losing power with more steps as well (with what I thought was a more athletic approach). I found fewer steps allowed me to make sure my plant foot got down so my hips could do their job before my upper body got too excited and went off on its own. Anyway cheers.
Techdisc is something I want to buy when I have money lol
I would like to have a techdisc so I don't have to do as much leg work to retrieve discs. I also, like the analytics of trying to get better or improve on most aspects of life.
You must have got my sticker because I don't think I even got 1 lol. Also I'm like you and I love seeing the numbers.
For Nose angle on your wrist snap, I've noticed I act like I'm pouring a pitcher which helps me mentally prevent the snap upward.
Dude, you are unreal!! 1400 rpm’s is bonkers!! Any idea how your spin is so high? I’m reaching low 70s on good throws and my spin is 1100-1210 at best. :0
I got a techdisc yesterday. I can easily throw 65-67 and got a handful of 69-70 mph throws but could not for the life of my get the nose angle down.
Fly Green is great, but every time I've made the trek to Denver and visited them, the "training" isn't available. Only complaint with them cause that is the coolest disc golf shop ive ever been to.
Not sure of their partnerships either, but Brodie mentioned possibly sending your own disc to get converted to a tech disc.
This definitely seems like a viable tool for advanced players looking to see instant results when making tweaks and changes to their form, but wonder if it would be useful to a more novice disc golfer......someone like me 😂. I struggle to throw close to 300', and in all honesty I probably average closer to 250' on my drives. I want to add more distance to my throws, wonder if this would help someone like me, who has a ton of flaws in my form, or if I should hold off til I get better with my throws.
There's another one coming out called Gameproofer and you attach it to your own disc. It's $100 cheaper, but it does not measure nose angle. I think that's one of the main reasons that the tech Disc is glued on. It's calibrated to measure nose angle. Because of that reason, I went with the Tech Disc. ...Gameproofer says they may eventually be able to measure nose-angle, but I don't know if it would be accurate when placed on different discs.
I definitely need to know the nose angle so I guess I’ll be going with tek disc
GameProofer will have nose and tilt angles 😉 And mounting it yourself will not have impact on results as long as you mount it according to instructions.
@@gameproofer1339 When? Holidays are just around the corner and a purchase decision has to be made very soon :-D
And if you meant, when the angles are available, the answer is on a day one of deliveries.
@gameproofer1339 I might have missed this was a pre-order then. When are you expecting first deliveries? (USA)
You've made my day with this video
Hey Bodanza. Ever fix those nose angles? I got my tech disc and I'm struggling to get the nose down. Other metrics at like 62mph 1200RPM but with a 5->7 nose angle I feel like all my shots are stalling once I use faster discs
Turn the key. Turn the key
Write off babyyy
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How is everyone getting theirs so soon? I order led mine 2 months ago
Safari is going to run the website best on iPadOS.
Try slow and smooth with speed at the end.
I’m curious what size net Bodanza is using. I used the link to take a look at options and the pricing looks good for nets, but I will probably only do 7x7 when I get one for indoor work in my basement. Curious how functional the 7x7 is and if I need to put any weight on the base, or anything like that. In this video, that net was moving a good bit.
I got a 7x7 and it's plenty big. I put a couple of 10 pound weights on the front two legs to keep it from rocking backward.
Wobble in degrees is weird. Wobble represents off axis torque and personally I’d want to see that in a force unit especially given the dimensions of the disc and spin data is known…
If I buy a techdisc in the spring, it'll be through this affiliate link.
As Brodie says. The biggest thing to distance is the noseangle 😊
Easiest thing to improve for distance is nose angle. Arm speed is also critical, but harder to improve.
Come play a round in southeast Texas
Rpm barely effects distance, rpm mostly makes discs slightly more stable past about 1000 rpm if you're in the 700 rpm range you probably want to work on spin, if you're at 1000rpm and 50-55mph youre fine if youre at 65-70 mph and only 1000 rpm, then increasing spin can help you have more discs the fly more stable but thats about it.
Well... it makes more stable discs stay in the air longer as well, like... adds glide further into the slow speed phase, so pushing the dump further and further, to the point discs except the Tilt and Zone OS-esque discs just seem to have other flights for the pros. Seen some nasty lovely late turns instead of the fade kicking in this year on tour, I'm
thinking this is part of it.
I also think extra spin lets the disc retain speed longer, like if I hit a treebranch slightly with high rpm it won't take away the distance as much beacuse of the spin being the thing lost mostly.
Will be interesting in some years to read about actual studies towards discs and such, miggt already exist some studies about discus.
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Not gonna lie bro... With u being one of the main/top disc golf content creators on TH-cam & them not wanting to send you one or provide you with any sort of deal kind of leaves a nasty taste in my mouth. I'd 100% at least offer 25% off and thank you for giving them the recognition. Lets be real, not many people will spend $300 on it. I've spent $1800 total this year alone on all disc golf related things (disc, cart, bags, tournaments, etc) & I've been wanting one of these but idk. GIVE BODANZA SPONSORSHIPS!!!!!
I feel sorta the opposite. I get if anthony just wanted one to review and then send it back. phone reviewers do things like this a lot. Though, it's different if he he's trying to flex his clout to get a free one and make a video on it. I'm not saying that's what he's trying to do, but that seems a little bit self-centered if it is. Just cuz you're a big disc golf channel doesn't mean you should feel entitled to free industry products. I will agree that it's odd they didn't try and come to some sort of sponsorship deal though. The company could at least try and work out a fair deal so both parties can benefit.
Right! But, phones are phones & a billion $ industry. I don't think Bodanza would ever try to flex clout but I get what you're saying. I have only 7k followers on IG but companies that reach out to me to promote things at least offer me 20% or even sometimes free items. They're not $300 pieces of tech but still. Not attacking TD or anything. Just odd.
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What is better? getting one time 25% of $300 ($75) or getting 6% ($18) for every disc sold through the affiliate link in his description? They are not "not" interested into marketing, but they apparently wanted a more unbiased review. I already wanted to get one, but since they are back-ordered again, I'll just have to wait and keep Anthony's link in mind.
I think with demand being so high, the companies aren't willing to send free copies of some things. That said, I don't think they're offering any sort of affiliate link to most TH-camrs, maybe just the bigger ones who might reach out to them.
Disc golf is sort of over crowded here a bit… Orem and Provo both have college leagues.
If you don't have a completely pitch black bedroom, get a sleep mask. It's helped my sleep tremendously. Should help your overall recovery.
mmmm tech
Might need to vac the room before you leave.
Be good to see how it holds up over time.
can i send a disc of my choosing, and send it to them, and ge the tech thingy attached ? i would get a innova mystere...
No. You get to choose putter, midrange, fairway driver or driver, but they pick the disc.
GameProofer can be mounted on any disc. Instructions and tools to get it centered will be delivered with each unit.
Hi, anthony can you help me get a techdisc and sent it to sweden, ofc i pay the disc and shipping i ask you because i trust you.
Looks like some ATG exercises
Today is way less expensive than that thing!
Guy watches a lot of kneesovertoesguy lol
Yea or weekly vid 👀
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The video isn’t over yet but it looks to me like the correlation is your nose angle at release has the biggest impact on speed and was the overall most important, impactful statistic out of all the variables. This is strictly just my arrogant opinion at first glance
Put some weights on the legs of the net.
You don’t care about wobble because you seem to naturally be good at that. But… I believe wobble is super critical to improve for most. For me it was. Went from over 6 to sub 2 average when using the disc. A good thing you’d think?
You're right. Wobble is super important to minimize, though there's probably a law of diminishing returns with it. The closer you get to 0 the better, but it's likely impossible to completely eliminate it. But every bit helps.
Hey this would be a sweet monthly video if you just hit the field and give us updates👀🔥
Sapphires are not super flippy btw.
I believe this is a common view. Maybe the really light Sapphires are very flippy, but first time I threw a Sapphire thinking it would be really flippy I was really surprised about how stable it flew (at least mine). Maybe a review of a Sapphire could be interesting?
@@Nale72 I think since the Sapphire is in the "Easy to Throw" line it has that reputation, despite being the fastest and most overstable driver in that line. 🙂
Nose angle needs to be 3 to 4 degrees negative. You're severely nose up. How you get to 65 mph but can't figure out how to throw nose down is amazing.
The reason your nose angle sucks, is because you're trying to "throw flat".
No matter how you feel, the disc orbits the player in a circular path. There is no flat. There is only hyzer or anny.
How can you have an affiliate link that makes you money if we buy one through that, and say it's not sponsored? If you make money ...
All the leaves and junk on the floor is triggering my OCD.
Wondering why there's nobody at the apartment complex gym at 10am on a Tuesday is a rite of passage for pro disc golfers. You must forget people actually work.
i dont understand this tech. I guess maybe it makes most sense using it on a putter. ..... but a driver..... arm speed has to much of limitation.
This is all backwards.
Just grip it and rip it😉
Really lame that they can't sell or ship to outside the US
They are a start up with limited production capacity. They have a significant backlog just with US orders.
Luckily Gameproofer is out there and has much the same functionality, and is sold in the EU and US.
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I’d never spend 300 on that.
Congrats
If you are trying to internally rotate your shoulder more why are you resistance training external rotation exclusively? Makes no sense
Doing the internal rotation doesn't need training per se, to keep it from externaly rotating at the same time and avoiding injury over time, mucles and tendons around it needs to get beefed. But I get it not being clear, come after me if I am wrong, just started caring at all what my body does... just 20 years to late ;)
Can you write off the $300 as a business expense since you are a content creator? At least that kind of thing will help during tax season
thats not how business taxes work@@CoffeeBns
@@CoffeeBns from cnet after a quick google: If you're self-employed or own a business, you can deduct business expenses on your taxes regardless of whether you take the standard deduction or itemize. "Business expenses are known as above the line deductions which are available regardless of the choice to itemize.”
My wife owns a business so we get to write off all kinds of expenses every year to reduce our taxable income. It all adds up 👍
@@BodanzaDiscGolfsay whaaat? I’m sure you could chalk it up to a write off considering you used it in the video. Check with your CPA. I was under the impression if you consider it a piece of property needed for content, it could be written off in the Schedule C.
lol no you're right, I was responding to a comment that the user must have deleted which was about the standard deduction and me not itemizing blah blah blah. That's what I meant for "that not how business taxes work"
I'll definitely write it off lol@@WestCoastFloridaFishing
Hey Bodanza, love your content. Thanks for grinding. I would enjoy slightly shorter videos from your channel. I find it hard find time to watch the whole video.
maybe its just me but youre actively using your arm and thats never gonna work.. basically zero active arm use.. only at last second do you pop wrist.. let your body coil and uncoil s pulling with arm!
He's right you can do it Anthony quit engaging the arm and let it rip after everything else you will instantly feel the difference! Good luck brother! Make a trip to Oregon and we can get you throwing 70 mph!
Get a broom.
Disc golf kind of cringe?? Tell us how you really feel… lol
Stop throwing the arm and start whipping it..your winded and your using your throwing muscles..keep it limp and whip it
Bro you walking backwards on that treadmill made me want to click off the video.
I was in my backyard in NY and lost my Tech Disc and catch net on my very first throw😔.
At least I was able to retrieve the data from the first throw, it registered 999 mph with 9,999 rpm 🥏💨🔥🔥🔥.
The good news is I had my name and number on the disc👍, turns out someone 85 miles west of the Mississippi river in Arkansas found the disc and net on a farm🤗.
Moral of the story if you have a powerful arm like myself 💪 back of your throw by 95% or you will be driving through four states to retrieve your tech disc and net 🤷.
This is ~IThrowFartherThanYouDo~ signing off✌️.