300Tdi brake servo test. Bad brakes and excessive back pressure?

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  • @johnlippiatt8200
    @johnlippiatt8200 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video as usual Mike. I have replaced the servo on my 300tdi twice now, it has 260000 miles on it so not too disappointed. One thing which I think you could cover which doesn't seem to be in any of the workshop manuals is servo actuator pin adjustment. The most recent unit that I fitted this was well out causing a very low pedal and sudden brake feel. Explanation of the setting up may well help many of your followers. 👍

    • @BritannicaRestorations
      @BritannicaRestorations  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There should be no reason to adjust the pin - yes it gives a better pedal - until the brakes heat up, and the expanded fluid, can no longer return to the reservoir as the seals shut the return off - this can result in the brakes overheating, so for liability I do not offer this advice
      I hope you understand

    • @johnlippiatt8200
      @johnlippiatt8200 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BritannicaRestorations Clearance on the unit I most recently fitted was 30 thou from the manufacturer, I had never had to adjust one previously on a Land Rover or any other vehicle. Not shown in any manual that I could access in the end I had to make tool to measure the clearance. Once set all worked correctly, fluid returned to reservoir , no overheating now been functioning OK for 12000 miles. Understand your point regarding liability, do you want me to delete my post?

    • @BritannicaRestorations
      @BritannicaRestorations  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No - don't delete - but you can see it is a very fine line between good brakes and dangerous = I have seen someone's vehicle lock up the brakes completely due to over adjustment after driving round town
      This is why there is no mention of this in the manual

  • @petermenzies1714
    @petermenzies1714 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely brilliant explanation and crystal clear illustration of the cause of this quite common problem.
    Tdi’s will now be more expensive when panic sellers begin to realise t’s the brake servo not the engine which kaput and pressuring the crankcase.

  • @teivatehevini2101
    @teivatehevini2101 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you Sir !
    It's interesting for me because I've got à defender 90 300tdi 2006 march

  • @DTS1838
    @DTS1838 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I learned something there Mike ,great video ,thank you.

  • @TheNorthernExplorer
    @TheNorthernExplorer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great info! After your advice on the previous video I’ve ordered a second hand unit to see if it fixes my problem. I also have an issue with oil out the breathers so this could be the root of all evil! Thanks for the info!

  • @Reaper4367
    @Reaper4367 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great information as usual Mike.
    My breaks are good, for about 3 seconds on the pedal then the pedal starts to drop towards the floor.
    Cheers for sharing.

  • @AngusAbbott-qf8xm
    @AngusAbbott-qf8xm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this and I will make a copy in case my partner asks about my wanting my vacuum developer in the toolbox

  • @davidforbes6250
    @davidforbes6250 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gooda Michael.

  • @lukeevans9698
    @lukeevans9698 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks!

  • @cdnrover
    @cdnrover ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Geez, I didn't know it was not working properly mate. No symptoms, good break and no excessive back pressure. The master cylinder never needed topping up. Might be a consequence of all those years driving old Land-Rovers, you get used to bad car!

    • @BritannicaRestorations
      @BritannicaRestorations  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      See why I like to test parts! ?

    • @berndeikers8924
      @berndeikers8924 ปีที่แล้ว

      Didnt you say brakes worked find over years. Doesnt Sound Like a Bad car to me ...

    • @jamieambrose893
      @jamieambrose893 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fighting a few battles with my 300tdi d1. And I have watched that many of your videos now I can here you taking when am working on it 😅 good videos mate keep it up! Good proper videos with none of the 🐃💩

  • @andrewk6844
    @andrewk6844 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had one on mine last vehicle , Just put silicone over the cracks

  • @jameskerr5756
    @jameskerr5756 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting Mike. Mine looks as though it has been changed not too long before my ownership so seems to be still good. Presume it would be the same symptoms on the V8.

    • @BritannicaRestorations
      @BritannicaRestorations  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You should be OK as it should have the older style servo - much thicker

  • @MARTINA-gc3tq
    @MARTINA-gc3tq ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Many years ago, a pal was working on his TR6 which had a brake issue. His servo was cracked and he repaired it with glass fibre mat and what I assume was epoxy. He often worked on his glass fibre speed boat so I wonder if he got the idea from that.

    • @BritannicaRestorations
      @BritannicaRestorations  ปีที่แล้ว

      I have seen plastic servos in the past -- after market, but I never see them now

  • @PeasantPrep
    @PeasantPrep 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Having issues with the servo on my d1 getting engine oil in. This is the second servo this has happend too so going to change the vac pump aswell. Im guessing there is a one way valve that may of failed.

    • @BritannicaRestorations
      @BritannicaRestorations  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe - the engine takes air from the servo, but does not pump air in from the engine

  • @alanhowatson3462
    @alanhowatson3462 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I changed a cylinder head out once for excess back pressure, only to find out the servo was kaput!

    • @BritannicaRestorations
      @BritannicaRestorations  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Easy done!

    • @alanhowatson3462
      @alanhowatson3462 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @BritannicaRestorations it was something you mentioned in one of your videos about how the 300tdi servo was thin and prone to cracking that led me to the servo. So thank you Mike. Top bloke👍

    • @BritannicaRestorations
      @BritannicaRestorations  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes an easy trap to fall into! Even happened to me!

  • @scottthomasmartin
    @scottthomasmartin 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    With these servo issues, do you think it's a bad idea to connect the breather to the intake? Should the hose off the breather terminate somewhere else so that we don't get oil in the intake pathway?

  • @berndeikers8924
    @berndeikers8924 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would be evt. Helpful to know how many years thie booster was in service, how many and what services have been made?
    The problem of the booster is huminity getting in and doesnt come out. That means rust, that means the material gets weaker

  • @alfredsteidle5035
    @alfredsteidle5035 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this excellent Video😊.
    Maybe you can show us the inside or the Membran ? Is the rubber good ? 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

    • @BritannicaRestorations
      @BritannicaRestorations  ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a video somewhere when I stripped a servo - but there is not much in them and every one I have looked has been cracked - never experienced a diaphragm broken

    • @alfredsteidle5035
      @alfredsteidle5035 ปีที่แล้ว

      👍

  • @jonbuckley1495
    @jonbuckley1495 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    25 years on mine, it's original too, worth changing?

    • @BritannicaRestorations
      @BritannicaRestorations  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hard to say - may have been changed in the past?

    • @jonbuckley1495
      @jonbuckley1495 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BritannicaRestorations I have a rare example where Ive known and have the full and complete service history since it was new from the showroom, was unwanted as the TD5 was due to be released for sale the next month

  • @erictyrrell3560
    @erictyrrell3560 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    200Tdi booster may have been the last one made of sufficiently thick metal

    • @BritannicaRestorations
      @BritannicaRestorations  ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed - the TD5, disco and puma seemed to be made of sterner stuff

    • @erictyrrell3560
      @erictyrrell3560 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BritannicaRestorations so only the 300Tdi was a weak design? Haven’t seen the later ones.

  • @smifflarr
    @smifflarr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could this be the case with any car or just specific to land rovers?

  • @peter8828
    @peter8828 ปีที่แล้ว

    would 2part epoxy work ?

    • @garypoulton7311
      @garypoulton7311 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No, might work for a while, but would crack, as the whole plate flexes. One cure only: new servo

    • @BritannicaRestorations
      @BritannicaRestorations  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Correct

    • @peter8828
      @peter8828 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@garypoulton7311 or sell the landy and buy a land cruser lol 😂
      (Sorrry)

    • @berndeikers8924
      @berndeikers8924 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@peter8828... Here WE Go ..

  • @nigeljefferies8713
    @nigeljefferies8713 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, having just replaced mine which was part hard pedal and normal whiich was very disconcerting. Always check the valve being a one way flow to the engine and not both ways. My unit was 27 years old. Thanks again Mike you deserve to have a lot of followers. Regards Nigel