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Bro, I just want Overwatch 1 back. Y'know, the game that I and countless others *_bought and paid for?_* I'll happily take Loot Boxes, double shields, old heroes before crazy reworks, and content drought over Battle Passes, overpriced cosmetics, overpowered heroes, and broken promises.
Respectfully drake is just ow. Started out with good intentions, fell into a cycle of greed and decay. Kendrick is more like undertale, where the passion of the creator directly leads to success.
@mortystraphouse5077 you'd be surprised. I was a day 1 Aubrey hater cuz he ALWAYS came off fake, especially since I'm in proximity to gang shit. That nigga was never even someone like that ever fr, and it showed very evidently to people like me.
Flats is playing elden ring and tired of playing tank, eskay is feeling burn out of ow(she was playing tank) and now is playing Tekken, Emongg also playing other stuff, Karq is playing Pokemon and elden ring, Frogger started to do rant vídeos and is tired too. If this doesn't show that's something really wrong with this game then idk what will show.
It's crazy how when the rework first came out everyone was saying Pharah was crap Edit, also Pharah being in the skybox isn't the problem. It's her having no fall off dmg that is.
As a masters pharah main. Yeah she’s over tuned as hell, obviously I like pharah but not if it makes everybody else’s experience terrible. She can exist and still be viable without being broken.
Can someone explain why pharah's broken now? Last I played was season 9 and she seems pretty much the same. Just a meta shift? I'm just curious I genuinely don't know
@@cultovcrows8142 People haven't realized what a huge potential pharah had and were still learning how to play her. I instantly knew that pharah rework was a hidden gigabuff despite for gutted jetpack
@@ivanych6231 Yeah, low ranks already hated facing Pharah so lets just give her unnecessary movement options. Everything added/taken from her kit was an L. Not recharging jets in the air, horizontal movement, faster rockets, concussion does DAMAGE. Out of all the reworks they have done, only like 2 of them were good for the game. Sombra and Doomfist (depending on whether you preferred DPS Doom or Tank Doom, I think Tank Doom is healthier for the game imo). Bastion? L (I liked that he was a niche pick, not being able to move in turret form and his ultimate was just way more interesting to use AND outplay. Currently you hear him do his tune and you just save your movement ability). Orisa? Probably more annoying than old Orisa. Mcree? L. Hog? huge L. Ball? L. How many more L reworks are we going to get in this game? If higher ranks are complaining about Pharah then the low ranks is literal hell.
@@Chazza-01 tbh concussion has always dealt damage, but it has been impact 30 damage, splash could just boop people away. Also, ball "rework" is just ANOTHER mobility creep buff. It has nothing with the current "soft reworks" and furthermore - with real reworks, like torb and symmetra has gotten.
The devs don't hire pro players for the same reason they only interview nice ow content creators. They'd rather have the game die then be told they're wrong
I almost uninstalled the game for the first time ever. Its just become for frustrating than fun. Im a plat diamond player and once in while you get really competitive evenly matched game but most are still just a roll
Already uninstalled. It’s seriously not worth wasting your time on this game when the reward ratio doesn’t match the amount of effort that has to be put in such an unbalanced game. The devs clearly don’t have a damn clue where they want this game to go for it to succeed. Once we hear Aaron’s update take on 6v6, this would be the deciding factor on rather or not it’s worth coming back to this game for good.
@@OpalBerries I was off rolling on supp and was right on the border of Plat1/Dia5. I was duo'd with a friend (not smurfing) who is D4. We got placed in a Plat1/M3 game. There were solo players in there too, so it somehow wasn't counting that lobby as a wide match even though the range was Plat to mid Masters. Actually insane.
Its not just 6vs6 although I agree. Blizzard repeatedly disrespects the people who put the most time into their game, by constantly catering to a casual audience. Skillful heros being meta and actually taking time and effort to learn one equating into a larger skill expression and higher rank? Nah, make mercy auto fly on space bar; make moira meta, make hitboxes massive so everyone can land shots and feel like they're contributing and have fun! Its totally not gonna break most damage breakpoints that have become muscle memory to most core players! Not to mention this approach to the game has bred a casual community even in ranked, who don't jump on comms and feel like they're doing good because they're looking at stats with no context on the scoreboard (another massive L from blizzard which only increased frustration and toxicity). Every change they seem to make just makes the game worse, not even talking about how they still struggle to make balance changes 8 years later that anyone above gm4 can see would be a problem a mile away. In trying to cultivate both a competitive and casual community, they've lost both, as opposed to top down balancing like any respectable competitive e-sport ready game would do.
I mean casuals make up the majority of the player base and their revenue. The game dies without a legion of casual fans. However, a lot of those low skill heroes ironically screw over casual players who dont play them the most. its much harder for a casual fan to enjoy someone like genji if they're just better off playing a reaper or bastion and getting far more value even if the character is very unfun and basic. It also discourages other people from playing things like tracer or genji because they just cant compete with these easier free value characters. People love playing reinheardt ESPECIALLY casual players but no one does because characters that are much easier like orisa and mauga just dont let people play him or a lot of the other more technical or difficult characters. It ruins lower rank matches far more as a result. When ever orisa is meta in high ranks, you know she is completely offthe walls unhinged running lobbies in the metal ranks and its ironcially far worse for the casuals that this casual friendly character is whats meta. Why play hard characters in low ranks like tracer or genji with a dps moira running around, at least with mercy she sucks at fighting back if they DO get to her.
@isaacargesmith8217 Look at competitive games like league/smite/valorant/apex legengs who top down balance for proleague / high ranked first and foremost, yet they still maintain a large casual following. The fun should be learning these hard characters and watching yourself develop game after game, not the babying blizzard is doing to its fan base making absurd hit boxes and making high level teq a single button push just to appease the people who refuse to put the time into mastering what once was a rewarding and complex game. If game = competitive = large pro/streamer scene = more casuals playing. Causuals have always had quick play, but now ranked games have no urgency or integrity anymore in no small part due to blizzards prioritisation of casual fans.
As a pharah main, I think the problem with her is that her rework made her really good even without mercy, but if she does have mercy she's a menace. Having someone pocketing you and reducing your already small pool of potential mistakes you can make is really shitty to play against. Her damage could be tuned down slightly but I think most of the issue lies in the fact that all characters are being individually balanced rather than looked at as how they interact with each other. If she is nerfed on an individual level again, I fear she will be unplayable, much like Sojurn at this point.
@@isaacargesmith8217 I was a Winston main and scatter made me think twice about driving Hanzo until I knew he didn't have it, I guess it sucked for squishies if he launched it into a room and killed everyone but I thought it was fair if he got dove since his dash isnt all that great. He should have a one shot over Widow though
I've been an Overwatch player since late 2017- early 2018. I've been in love with the game until Overwatch 2 came out. It felt like everything has changed in a way that Blizzard focuses on attracting new players and neglect the OG's. They've become extremely greedy in comparison to OW 1, the loot boxes was my favorite part of the game, being rewarded by PLAYING! Now, it's become a pay to win game... I miss OW 1.
@@brycenb2994 tbf, when Mauga was released it was sort of pay to win if you didn't have time to grind the battle pass. But currently you are correct it isn't pay to win.
@@Chazza-01 Well; all the characters, battle pass or not, could’ve been unlocked via hero challenges. The battle pass just allowed you to unlock it faster since typically people don’t feel like doing the challenges. And even then it was only really prevalent for the mauga meta. I don’t think any of the other tanks were so oppressive that people were buying the battle pass just to unlock them sooner
I'm a casual player who only really plays QP and sometimes Arcade. I've recently really gotten into maining Echo. She has a solid kit where she can dash in or fly around corners to flank and catch someone off guard, she has her sticky bombs to apply pressure and as soon as that health bar hits 50% you throw out beam to melt people. Easy to understand but difficult to master. She feels like a well designed hero with a clear goal in mind. Imagine if she suddenly got 50% damage deduction on her dash, her sticky bombs now slow you down on hit and her beam had infinite reach as long as she's not hitting a wall so as soon as you land 1 sticky bomb, you beam from halfway across the map and get a kill if they had half health. That's how overtuned a lot of the cast feels right now. We can have a simple character like Echo feel fun to play without a huge amount of "I win now" stuff on her kit so why is it we need everyone else having all sorts of get out of jail free cards handed out like candy? Bap lamp, Kiri suzu, Cassidy roll, Pharah's everything, Venture dash/dig, etc. and more. Their balancing philosophy feels like it's just "Make sure you give the players as many ways to cover their own mistakes as possible so any amount of poor decision making and errors don't matter." unless you play tank and then it becomes "Rotate which tank is OP every month so people think we're still working on fixing the Tank role."
Hot Take: Gun to my head, I'd rather have OP Mauga than OP Pharah Reason: He is just one tank who required supports attention to stay alive. Without them, characters like Rein could counter him so long as they deny him damage. Meanwhile, Pharah is one of 2 DPS who no longer requires Supports to stay alive. And yet she is still pocketed by the Mercy (I blame the reintroduction of the Pink Mercy skins for that. She's not good, but with the new skin, EVERYONE wants to play her now) As such, she just becomes even more unkillable on top of her strong mobility (RIP Junkrat)
Besides the obvious issues with OW2 specifically, I'm tired of having to settle with boring unfun metas with overtuned or broken heroes and having to complain with the rest of the community for weeks or longer about it, just a negative mindset like that all the time is draining. Micro-transactions galore, wasted time waiting for the devs to make balance changes that could be done in 5 minutes, and the trash 5v5 format has killed Overwatch and multiplayer games for me, I'm not even mad anymore, just apathetic which is even worse. I'll keep up with OW2 news just to see how much longer they drag it's corpse around while dodging the 6v6 agenda.
I’m still livid that a bunch of idiots are the soul reason we lost lootboxes. The way overwatch did lootboxes was objectively INSANELY fair, you could earn everything. Just by… Playing the game. But no, clowns and their circus show had to ruin that incredibly fair reward system for everyone 💀🙏
@@meat3958wasn’t the lootboxes thing a legal issue? Pretty sad to see it go though, even angrier to see them replaced with a dogshit shop and a battle pass.
@@meat3958yeah back when the game was paid for… their also weren’t nearly as many skins as there are now especially with the introduction of the battle pass. If they had loot boxes you’d literally have no reason to ever spend money and everything would be free. This is such a stupid take
@@brycenb2994 The fact that you think those items shouldn’t be obtainable through a REASONABLE amount of grinding for players that are able to hop on every day for an hour or two and playing just the game AND optionally spending money to avoid the longer grinding process to get the skins they want is the dumb take. Bootlick harder.
Not only Pharah's rework, but also 250 hp made her unbearable to counter, imo. You simply cannot have so much health on character who always creates an off-angle, has an advantage of the map verticality and has no falloff on her damage.
Pharah gets a lot of help from a lot of little issues, dps passive is very easy to apply, she’s stupidly mobile so dva can’t catch her, she shreds torb turret, new hinder can’t chase her. She’s way too good in lower rank and unlike souj you don’t need to aim that well while hit scan and projectile characters have a hard time tracking.
the fact that her dmg is splash means that she can constantly apply it to multiple people, so several people receive less healing and then she still has this insane amount of fast moving burst dmg.
Also going to say about the “audience wanting 6v6” people don’t want to admit that they needed a simpler format to make it anywhere. There was people who were hard stuck silver/gold/plat that are finally hitting diamond/masters and feeling like they accomplished something. Idk this game is cooked and so is the community. This coming from some who has peaked t500 multiple times through out ow1’s history
Don't get your hopes up, the way blizzards good boys freedo and custa have been talking gives me the impression that they know 6v6 isn't being reevaluated. I do hope I'm wrong, but I have my doubts when the hype club starts chattering.
As a support player, I’m either having to go mercy to pocket my hitscan at the moment, or I just go bap and have to perma shoot pharah. I suggest support players help their dps out and go baptise. He has heaps of sustain and can use his boost jump to see her easier around obstacles to kill her or the mercy. I’ve made lots of them switch by doing that.
Yeah, Bap is the best support to be against Pharah. With the second being Illari or Mercy depending on your DPS lineup. Ana is a fine choice on long range maps however Pharah can easily get ontop of Ana with her lack of mobility. I hope they revert Pharah, she shouldn't have 3 mobility options. She shouldn't do damage with concussion blast. She shouldn't have super fast rockets which she can easily spam chokes with (making it difficult to kill her with hitscan due to her time to kill being faster with her shoot, shoot, concussion combo).
Before watching, I just wanna say something I haven't seen creators or other people bring up. The devs have been gigabuffing tanks in an attempt to make playing tank feel less miserable or make them more viable vs counters, but super buffing every tank only makes that problem worse. If you don't constantly counter the mega tank on the enemy team, then they just get to run free with this crazy OP hero and run the lobby. Over buffing tanks has only made the problem with counterswapping and CD dumping into the tank even worse. Also I said it after one of the first dmg buffs after they upped the health pools of everyone, but they've continued to buff dmg numbers. They increased health pools to stop the feast or famine nature between nothing ever dies or everyone insta dying. The main thing that doesn't exist anymore is Hanzo 1 shot on squishies, and they could've just nerfed his damage. They should revert a lot of these and just straight up hard nerf a lot of healing and damage across the board.
The games just frustrating, especially if you solo queue. I only really play the game with friends, even then we get burnt out with frustration after an hour or two. Maybe competitive games aren’t for me anymore, but I’ve still had fun with other games I’ve taken seriously.
I agree with everything you said beside your illari takes. Couple seasons ago before they buffed her pylon nobody used her cause there were too many better option but now they buffed illaris pylon too much and now its too powerful. they just need to find a balance but making pylon be a periodical thing would never work.
I'm honestly surprised people like you still care enough to want to make the game better. I bowed out at the health and hitbox changes. I really hate the direction the game is going in. 'Make the game as accessible as possible' is just making it as bland as possible.
@@brandicunningham7243 yup, Genji and Tracer are no longer fun to play with Moira around. If I could remove 1 character from Overwatch and was in a room with Moira, Mauga and this new stupid iteration of Hog I would remove Moira twice
You had me until you said "Put old Flashbang in" Like- do you *play* Tank? Cause yeah, that's ALL we fuckin need a hard stun to add to the sleep, the boop, the hook, and EVERYTHING else so I *really* can't play the game
I would just prefer it over not being able to move at all over a longer period of time, If old flash did come back I would want the time actually stunned to go down in time. I understand what you're saying tho
Would it really be that much different to play tank against flashbang, rather than right now? It's gonna be garbage for tank either way, I think the whole argument that he is trying to make is that, at this point Blizzard has made a cool down on Cassidy that is just as unfun to play against as flashbang. So what's the difference for the switch? It sucks either way.
@@maskedsausage9431 Yes it would make a difference. Hinder doesn't stop my rein shield, or my zarya bubble, or my sigma shift, or my Doomfist block, or My Hog breather, or my Ramatra block etc etc etc. Stun does and opens up for the wombo combo of every other CC having a free 2 seconds to hit my stunned ass. So yes, it does make a difference. Edit: And even for DPS it doesn't stop Genji deflect, or Mei Ice Block or Torb armored form, or Phara's Boop rocket. Its arguments like this that let Blizzard say stupid shit like "Nostalgia is a hell of a drug" when talking about 6v6. Its just not an objective statement. Hinder sucks, stun was worse and would make the game worse.
@@ld1449 zarya bubble? sigma shift? with those you can just tank the flashban and the followup actually requires a lot of coordination to pull off. and in the wiki it says the stun used to last 0.8 seconds. i think you're exaggerating a little bit. with hinder you are also more vulnerable to CC because you can't really move. I used to enjoy tanking in OW1 and not OW2, so that's my take at least.
"Everyone who is high rank can tell what changes will do to the game" is the supidest thing ive heard, everyone thaught the passive healing would break the game, gess what? It did not, its one of the coolest changes. "Oh sojourn got 3 buffs one nerf? Why are they buffing sojourn" and shes now one of the worst main dps characters. YES people who play the game are pretty knowledgeable, NO, they are not able to balance the game.
Trying to balance 5v5 is like playing seesaw with the chubby kid, doesn't matter what you do, bro is just going to send you flying. The discussion of balance in the 5v5 state is literally pointless, it can't be done, period.
Also regarding the format argument wouldn't it be more work to rework every 6v6 character than tune down the 5v5 broken characters. Like maybe take away one of sigmas abilities?
These devs are the rats they didn't fire that are actively burning the game to the ground. There's No way they give Illari a crazy buff with self healing being the only "nerf" she got, Orisa got a micro buff why? "Tanks aren't tanky enough" while the Unholy Trinity still exist in EVERY match I play. There's a reason why 2-1-2 feels decent if not more enjoyable to play tank & why there are 6v6 Discord servers popping up.
I’ve been playing this game since AT LEAST season 3 of Overwatch 1. Why are we acting as if 5v5 is better than 6v6? Is it because the devs would rather watch their game fall to games like marvel rivals when it comes out rather than actually listening to the community? At this point I think Overwatch 1 was just a fluke and they managed to make an amazing game out of pure chance.
They're going to move away from role queue and implement a pick/ban draft system eventually. The game is going in a more competitive direction so doing that would be a no brainer. I also think they are going to implement other gameplay systems like talents for each hero, the pickable passives thing that they are going to do is a precursor to that.
Genuine question: Why is Illari's Pylon uptime such an issue? Or that it needs to be on a timer? Because I think that if the Pylon had less HP, bigger hurtbox, and re-adjusted so that abilities and damaging Ultimates can take it out then it wouldn't be an issue and it'll be consistent with the other turrets in the game and making it easier to understand for the average player base Idk, just an idea
Pharah kinda came out of nowhere. Calling her overtuned is weird since she's gotten a grand total of sweet nothing since her rework. People wanted her to get a buff in seasons 9 & 10. Her main issue buff was that the best hitscan is Cassidy who she out ranges. All of her usual counters are bad and mercy's pick rate skyrocketed due to the return of pink mercy. Just remove conc's damage and she'll fall back to around A tier. The reason why she's meta is the tank roster can't touch her and because hitscans don't really work like they used to. Tank's don't have an answer and all the old answers don't work
She was actually pretty strong from the rework but people werent utilizing its full potential. Now that the meta favors her and people have really improved with her its become all the more obvious how strong her rework was.
My biggest issue of this seas9n was they had to take out a whole teir because the voicelines were global and then they removed the skins becsuse half the skins that were in the battle pass werent rewarded or exist
Agree on some disagree in others. I don't really play competitively but some of the stuff I don't mind. Illari buffed healing pylon is sucky. I do thibk Cass roll should reduce less. But honestly main thing is I do prefer this version of flash so much more. Like not being able to maneuver and being slowed sucks. But in no way would I prefer to not be able to fight back at all cus of stun.
If they really think the less than 10 characters theyve made for 5v5 would be hard to configure for 6v6 theyre definitely just wanting to dodge the whole situation. A vast majority of changes could just be REVERTED and then they can just tweak the new characters around that like what? Its difficult? TFYM?
Why pharah isnt immeadiately patched: pharah users had complained too long and to make an excuse for them not to complain you at least let them be meta for 1 season and let it all out after like 2 years of tracer hitscan dominated meta.
So here are my thoughts when it comes to the rants he brought up: 1) Pharah -She is definitely overtuned. I like her new kit better, but she is a problem, much like all flying heroes. And probably what's crazier than Pharah is that the devs have yet to release a hot fix for her. After the Mauga meta, you'd think they'd be quicker about it. And to be fair, they did do it to Sigma and Roadhog. And yet, Pharah is ignored 2) Pharah, Junkrat, Bastion, Widow, and Sojourn = NEVER META -Honestly, I agree. Enough said 3) Illari -I think she is a bit overtuned as well, however, I personally don't think she isn't as bad as a Pharah. If anything, reduce Pylon's health and effective range, and she will be just fine. A timer on pylon may be a bit too much to be honest; that's why I included the effective range instead. And again, she is the poke Support, and that's fine. I just think she needs some tweak or else we end up with Support overly dominating again 4) Cassidy -In comparison to Sojourn in the past, I am very happy that Cass in here as he is. I think the current flashbang is better than the previous flashbang in OW1, at least it is for OW2. While yes it does need a slight number tweak and remove crouch limits, I'd prefer this than a normal flashbang. Then again, I used to main him and Sombra when I played DPS, though I'm usually stuck playing Tanks now. THAT BEING SAID! I do think his roll is overtuned. If anything, increase the distance and reduce the damage reduction. 5) Pros in the Staff -This will forever be a problem for OW. Because in the end, who should they cater to? Casuals and fun, or pro and competitive? This is something that has always been a hot topic, and honestly I don't think it can be answered at this moment in time. 6) 6v6 -Listen, as I want 6v6 to return, I believe that 5v5 will stay no matter what. Whether it is due to new philosophy, engine issue, etc, I don't care as long as they finally acknowledge the discussion instead of being cagey. In the end, I just want them to make a good game. 7) Master Rank -Despite playing the game since OW1's launch, I'm a solid low platinum, so this has nothing to do with me lol 8) Tanks being Tankier -Honestly, this doesn't surprise me int he slightest. After all, it's either gigatank simulator or CC magnet who blows up instantly. There is no middle ground since tanks are the last role to rely on their team as they are specialists on one thing, meanwhile Damage/Support can make plays by themselves as they are generalists who can do just about everything. So if this is what it comes to, then bring it on!
So, let's not talk about 6v6ers against 5v5ers let's talk about how many people abandoned the game for its tremendous status but not abandoned the game when double shield was meta
I sweat my ass off in this game for what? to get “outskilled” by passive game mechanics that require zero skill yet provide maximum utility. Click a fuckin button and win. So infuriating.
The game is too like "simple" or like dumb downed now. Support heroes should not be dps heroes who have the option to heal, immortal abilities need to be gutted, 6v6 needs to be back, they need to stop taking away the ability to punish heroes for a mistake or mismanaging their cooldowns. Like I still will never understand why Roadhog has the ability to heal and hook in his ult? What happened to punishing him whenever he used that at the wrong time? I also think Role Passive for dps is insane. I swear they didnt think about bastion just holding left click shredding the tank and lowering the amount of healing they get. I'll also keep saying this for as long as I play the game. I swear the double shield stuff everyone hated from Overwatch 1 could've legit been fixed if they just nerfed or reworked bap and brig, nerfed sigma, and possibly reworked Orisa. Sigma himself should've never been in the first game but that's a whole different thing.
They should remove Cassidys grenade all together and instead allow him to THROW HIS HAT and his hat twirls and boops victims and if there are any allies within range the hat will also target them and chain between enemies until the hat flies back to cassidy or cassidy has to walk over and pick his hat up and
I've been playing for less then a year and as far as I can tell Sombra needs a nerf/rework andi fought a pharah yesterday as Symetra and i had to bait her into a tight space to kill her, it was pretty bad
Hot take I know tank isn’t amazing but we’ve all played those game where it literally feels futile to shoot at a tank like I’d get more value watching paint dry then solo shoot at a tank with 4+ other people looking at them and they want to buff tanks to make them even more sustainable I am so bored of looking at Mauga and Hog and just know I can’t fucking touch them every hero has lost their identity because the health pools are just crazy
1:58 we have heroes in this game who have nearly zero lore, yet they're very interesting characters. Which is a crime that they don't have any animations up to this moment. Why would they do an animation to a new hero when previous ones aren't even developed :( 2:36 that sounds like someone can't play poke playstyle lol. Let's make all the maps in the pool kings row and no one's gonna complain!!111!!11!
@@MK-mm7ui o wow why? Is that the same color for the ranks below that? I used to remember it being gold too but granted that was way back in ow1 season 4 last I played
@@Karthig1987 it was pretty similar to the gold ranks icon. The rank icons changed when overwatch 2 launched, and then again when ow2 season 9 dropped. Idk why they changed colors of some rank icons, but i like some of the changes
Tbh I prefer hinder of flash because atleast you can fight back and Cass can’t just easily fan the hammer like in ow1. But I agree with most of the other things you said.
When I finish the battle pass I’m uninstalling for another few seasons. Fk overwatch. I lost 2 games in quick play and every game after was the worst players the game has to offer. I’m done.
I don't even play OW and I thought the ram ult when it came out was goofy. Illari pylon too. Now they boosted it's health hahahahaha. Only thing they could do worse is make bap lamp infinite uptime by that requiring to be way closer would make it more killable hahahahaha. Except maybe around corners but at least it would need to be close. Also old Cassidy flash bang coming back? Lol that they did all the changes just to make things worse and worse. Only played till ow1 season 4 and it was kinda good lol even if very short stun duration. Maybe I am remember it wrong and it was too long lol. Was great for ulting genjis flying in and tracer killing lol. Or stopping a rein charge
Just saying a 5v5 defenders only arguments are queue times which would had never happened if we actually had updates for the last two and half years for overwatch 1 and the other argument which is double shield. Which if you actually played overwatch 1 was easily counter by Double Bubble zarya Winston, hog ball torture, and hog/zarya. Like people love these buzzwords and simply want a more accessible game they don’t have to try as hard to think about strats going into a fight. We need tanks to have their open queue health values and to have their abilities only affect themselves and have two tanks to pick up each others weaknesses. The only tank that shouldn’t be touched is Zarya she should be able to bubble herself or the other tank twice, just don’t shoot the bubble. They’re scared to admit they changed the game we once loved to appease new players that require a simpler game with their TikTok brains. *ILLARI SHOULD NOT HAVE A DPS ULTIMATE*
I was gonna agree with you until ur take on hinder nade. Flash should not come back, it is way way more oppressive than hinder. At least being able to slightly shoot or fight back in some way is better than completely being unable to play the game.
i hope the game dies because that isnt its worst fate. the worst possible fate is fading into obscurity while they cling onto a constantly revolving door of a playerbase from season to season lol. but at least queue times are good... right....?
agree with most but not flashbang. Stun would absolutely be worse to deal with, like a lot of the stuff hinder does that you're complaining about also applies to stun plus with the added bonus of taking your ability to do ANY form of defending yourself especially if done on a tank. On top of that he should not have any form of stun period. he's already a decent character without it, why does he need to slow or stop a target on top of that? Ashe doesnt need it, even widow doesnt and they're able to function fine. Give him a frag grenade he can shoot, give him two rolls that dont stop damage like his one roll, give him SOMETHING other than another CC. If he's struggling to do anything without literally denying the other player the ability to play the game then that's a badly designed character who needs retooling, not a doubling down of what makes him hated by his opponents.
Man this game, im so happy the first descendant is out so i can play it while this game continues getting worse with every season I am a hardcore roadhog and rein main and only play them as they are the most fun and would play them whether they were good or not (they were mostly not in the first seasons, at least for roadhog) and i enjoyed not being overpowered but still fair to a degree Now that i don’t have anyone to peel for me, me being a super tank feels like good for the first game then it becomes a cooldown simulator because everyone dumps it on you since you’re the only front player there Also can’t wait for marvel rivals too lol
I’m definitely not playing at as high a level but imo swap junk for sombra. Bane of all support and removes fun kit while being invisible for 99% match
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Actual Rant starts at 2:45 if you want to skip the good stuff I said about this season, much love for watching
Bro, I just want Overwatch 1 back. Y'know, the game that I and countless others *_bought and paid for?_*
I'll happily take Loot Boxes, double shields, old heroes before crazy reworks, and content drought over Battle Passes, overpriced cosmetics, overpowered heroes, and broken promises.
Ironic that we’re asking for lootboxes to come back. At least blizzard’s version of loot boxes were more consumer friendly.
Nobody wants this 😂
@@brycenb2994must’ve had your head in the sand
Yep
@@brycenb2994 you must be an OW2 dev or just someone who never played OW1.
Yeah we 1000000% need 6v6 back
Yeppers
@@Turtlpwr creppers?
Hell naw I ain't wanna sit there for 15 mins to find a game
@pozhitkos564 look at the tank pick rate graph. Give it 5 more seasons and you will be sitting in 15min queues for one tank lmao
@@jackward1087 tho 5v5 isnt the problem of that
Drake is 5v5
Kendrick is 6v6
Lmao
Respectfully drake is just ow. Started out with good intentions, fell into a cycle of greed and decay. Kendrick is more like undertale, where the passion of the creator directly leads to success.
@@youngwolf024 drake fans still exist?
@mortystraphouse5077 you'd be surprised. I was a day 1 Aubrey hater cuz he ALWAYS came off fake, especially since I'm in proximity to gang shit. That nigga was never even someone like that ever fr, and it showed very evidently to people like me.
@@mortystraphouse5077 I still fw with drake. Beef only made me like him more
Flats is playing elden ring and tired of playing tank, eskay is feeling burn out of ow(she was playing tank) and now is playing Tekken, Emongg also playing other stuff, Karq is playing Pokemon and elden ring, Frogger started to do rant vídeos and is tired too. If this doesn't show that's something really wrong with this game then idk what will show.
That just them wanting to play different games it has nothing to do with overwatch
It's crazy how when the rework first came out everyone was saying Pharah was crap
Edit, also Pharah being in the skybox isn't the problem. It's her having no fall off dmg that is.
Re Pharah: why does Conc need to do damage at all? To me that's one of the first places to look at toning her down.
As a masters pharah main. Yeah she’s over tuned as hell, obviously I like pharah but not if it makes everybody else’s experience terrible. She can exist and still be viable without being broken.
Can someone explain why pharah's broken now? Last I played was season 9 and she seems pretty much the same. Just a meta shift? I'm just curious I genuinely don't know
Idk, but 90% of my losses are due to a ridiculous Pharah and my team being unable or unwilling to counter her
@@cultovcrows8142 People haven't realized what a huge potential pharah had and were still learning how to play her. I instantly knew that pharah rework was a hidden gigabuff despite for gutted jetpack
@@ivanych6231 Yeah, low ranks already hated facing Pharah so lets just give her unnecessary movement options. Everything added/taken from her kit was an L. Not recharging jets in the air, horizontal movement, faster rockets, concussion does DAMAGE. Out of all the reworks they have done, only like 2 of them were good for the game. Sombra and Doomfist (depending on whether you preferred DPS Doom or Tank Doom, I think Tank Doom is healthier for the game imo). Bastion? L (I liked that he was a niche pick, not being able to move in turret form and his ultimate was just way more interesting to use AND outplay. Currently you hear him do his tune and you just save your movement ability). Orisa? Probably more annoying than old Orisa. Mcree? L. Hog? huge L. Ball? L. How many more L reworks are we going to get in this game? If higher ranks are complaining about Pharah then the low ranks is literal hell.
@@Chazza-01 tbh concussion has always dealt damage, but it has been impact 30 damage, splash could just boop people away.
Also, ball "rework" is just ANOTHER mobility creep buff. It has nothing with the current "soft reworks" and furthermore - with real reworks, like torb and symmetra has gotten.
The devs seem hellbent on getting rid of all the nuance that made overwatch characters so special in the first place
They nuked this game and removed basically all skill expression in the course of a few patches.
The devs don't hire pro players for the same reason they only interview nice ow content creators. They'd rather have the game die then be told they're wrong
I almost uninstalled the game for the first time ever. Its just become for frustrating than fun. Im a plat diamond player and once in while you get really competitive evenly matched game but most are still just a roll
First time?
My last game was a gold-diamond lobby. Hate this game
Already uninstalled. It’s seriously not worth wasting your time on this game when the reward ratio doesn’t match the amount of effort that has to be put in such an unbalanced game. The devs clearly don’t have a damn clue where they want this game to go for it to succeed. Once we hear Aaron’s update take on 6v6, this would be the deciding factor on rather or not it’s worth coming back to this game for good.
@@nexenoplays6583 like for my mental health I was like I think its time
@@OpalBerries I was off rolling on supp and was right on the border of Plat1/Dia5. I was duo'd with a friend (not smurfing) who is D4. We got placed in a Plat1/M3 game. There were solo players in there too, so it somehow wasn't counting that lobby as a wide match even though the range was Plat to mid Masters. Actually insane.
Guys stop complaining, this will be fixed when Overwatch 3 comes out chill.
This season is so mentally draining trying to fight all the pharah’s and illari’s as doomfist is ruining me
Doom isn’t really good against phara that’s like me as a phara main complaining about soldier beaming me
@@IsthatJosh i know but not being able to interact with a hero that only 2 of the 12 tanks can even attack or kill pharah (dva and mauga)
@@IsthatJosh a hero that only 1/3 of the game hero roster can interact with being meta is super horrible
Still boggles my mind people keep calling this shit ow ”2”.
I mean that is the title, not that hard to comprehend
@@Fatherharu the 2 implies it’s a sequel, when in reality it’s anything but.
@@Fatherharuplus Blizzard and the Developers Subtracted more than they ever added.
@@Mejido it's all in the name or something idk, I just wanted to be funny
@@Fatherharu You're really bad at being Funny i have to admit
I love the amount of rants the OW community has been doing
Its not just 6vs6 although I agree. Blizzard repeatedly disrespects the people who put the most time into their game, by constantly catering to a casual audience. Skillful heros being meta and actually taking time and effort to learn one equating into a larger skill expression and higher rank? Nah, make mercy auto fly on space bar; make moira meta, make hitboxes massive so everyone can land shots and feel like they're contributing and have fun! Its totally not gonna break most damage breakpoints that have become muscle memory to most core players! Not to mention this approach to the game has bred a casual community even in ranked, who don't jump on comms and feel like they're doing good because they're looking at stats with no context on the scoreboard (another massive L from blizzard which only increased frustration and toxicity). Every change they seem to make just makes the game worse, not even talking about how they still struggle to make balance changes 8 years later that anyone above gm4 can see would be a problem a mile away. In trying to cultivate both a competitive and casual community, they've lost both, as opposed to top down balancing like any respectable competitive e-sport ready game would do.
I mean casuals make up the majority of the player base and their revenue. The game dies without a legion of casual fans. However, a lot of those low skill heroes ironically screw over casual players who dont play them the most. its much harder for a casual fan to enjoy someone like genji if they're just better off playing a reaper or bastion and getting far more value even if the character is very unfun and basic. It also discourages other people from playing things like tracer or genji because they just cant compete with these easier free value characters. People love playing reinheardt ESPECIALLY casual players but no one does because characters that are much easier like orisa and mauga just dont let people play him or a lot of the other more technical or difficult characters. It ruins lower rank matches far more as a result. When ever orisa is meta in high ranks, you know she is completely offthe walls unhinged running lobbies in the metal ranks and its ironcially far worse for the casuals that this casual friendly character is whats meta. Why play hard characters in low ranks like tracer or genji with a dps moira running around, at least with mercy she sucks at fighting back if they DO get to her.
@isaacargesmith8217 Look at competitive games like league/smite/valorant/apex legengs who top down balance for proleague / high ranked first and foremost, yet they still maintain a large casual following. The fun should be learning these hard characters and watching yourself develop game after game, not the babying blizzard is doing to its fan base making absurd hit boxes and making high level teq a single button push just to appease the people who refuse to put the time into mastering what once was a rewarding and complex game. If game = competitive = large pro/streamer scene = more casuals playing. Causuals have always had quick play, but now ranked games have no urgency or integrity anymore in no small part due to blizzards prioritisation of casual fans.
After brig and sigma, is it really impossible to believe that the ow team left balancing as is for sojourn for so long?
I wanna say a lot of the people that were around for brig and sigma arent even the same people that are currently around for stuff like sojourn
As a pharah main, I think the problem with her is that her rework made her really good even without mercy, but if she does have mercy she's a menace. Having someone pocketing you and reducing your already small pool of potential mistakes you can make is really shitty to play against. Her damage could be tuned down slightly but I think most of the issue lies in the fact that all characters are being individually balanced rather than looked at as how they interact with each other. If she is nerfed on an individual level again, I fear she will be unplayable, much like Sojurn at this point.
Bring a Junkrat otp this season has made have actual breakdowns
I get it.
bring back 6v6, flash bang, Hanzo scatter and DPS Doom
Scatter and storm arrow are both dumpster abilities. Simply remove hanzo until they make the character not absolutely useless.
ok maybe not some of those, some of those like scatter are gone for good reason.
@@isaacargesmith8217 I was a Winston main and scatter made me think twice about driving Hanzo until I knew he didn't have it, I guess it sucked for squishies if he launched it into a room and killed everyone but I thought it was fair if he got dove since his dash isnt all that great. He should have a one shot over Widow though
Dps Doom is trash for supports to deal with. Changing him into a tank alleviated a lot if problems.
@@donaldjgumpofficial5754 so is Moira, make her a tank
I've been an Overwatch player since late 2017- early 2018. I've been in love with the game until Overwatch 2 came out. It felt like everything has changed in a way that Blizzard focuses on attracting new players and neglect the OG's. They've become extremely greedy in comparison to OW 1, the loot boxes was my favorite part of the game, being rewarded by PLAYING! Now, it's become a pay to win game... I miss OW 1.
@@lilpanda7464 uhh do you even know what pay to win means??
@@brycenb2994 tbf, when Mauga was released it was sort of pay to win if you didn't have time to grind the battle pass. But currently you are correct it isn't pay to win.
@@Chazza-01 Well; all the characters, battle pass or not, could’ve been unlocked via hero challenges. The battle pass just allowed you to unlock it faster since typically people don’t feel like doing the challenges.
And even then it was only really prevalent for the mauga meta. I don’t think any of the other tanks were so oppressive that people were buying the battle pass just to unlock them sooner
I'm a casual player who only really plays QP and sometimes Arcade. I've recently really gotten into maining Echo. She has a solid kit where she can dash in or fly around corners to flank and catch someone off guard, she has her sticky bombs to apply pressure and as soon as that health bar hits 50% you throw out beam to melt people. Easy to understand but difficult to master. She feels like a well designed hero with a clear goal in mind.
Imagine if she suddenly got 50% damage deduction on her dash, her sticky bombs now slow you down on hit and her beam had infinite reach as long as she's not hitting a wall so as soon as you land 1 sticky bomb, you beam from halfway across the map and get a kill if they had half health. That's how overtuned a lot of the cast feels right now. We can have a simple character like Echo feel fun to play without a huge amount of "I win now" stuff on her kit so why is it we need everyone else having all sorts of get out of jail free cards handed out like candy? Bap lamp, Kiri suzu, Cassidy roll, Pharah's everything, Venture dash/dig, etc. and more. Their balancing philosophy feels like it's just "Make sure you give the players as many ways to cover their own mistakes as possible so any amount of poor decision making and errors don't matter." unless you play tank and then it becomes "Rotate which tank is OP every month so people think we're still working on fixing the Tank role."
Hot Take: Gun to my head, I'd rather have OP Mauga than OP Pharah
Reason: He is just one tank who required supports attention to stay alive. Without them, characters like Rein could counter him so long as they deny him damage. Meanwhile, Pharah is one of 2 DPS who no longer requires Supports to stay alive. And yet she is still pocketed by the Mercy (I blame the reintroduction of the Pink Mercy skins for that. She's not good, but with the new skin, EVERYONE wants to play her now) As such, she just becomes even more unkillable on top of her strong mobility (RIP Junkrat)
Besides the obvious issues with OW2 specifically, I'm tired of having to settle with boring unfun metas with overtuned or broken heroes and having to complain with the rest of the community for weeks or longer about it, just a negative mindset like that all the time is draining.
Micro-transactions galore, wasted time waiting for the devs to make balance changes that could be done in 5 minutes, and the trash 5v5 format has killed Overwatch and multiplayer games for me, I'm not even mad anymore, just apathetic which is even worse.
I'll keep up with OW2 news just to see how much longer they drag it's corpse around while dodging the 6v6 agenda.
Bring back 6v6,lower healthpools and fix hitboxes back,bring back old 1 shot hog,and bring back lootboxes ik this wont ever happen but its what i want
I’m still livid that a bunch of idiots are the soul reason we lost lootboxes. The way overwatch did lootboxes was objectively INSANELY fair, you could earn everything. Just by… Playing the game.
But no, clowns and their circus show had to ruin that incredibly fair reward system for everyone 💀🙏
Activision dude, that’s literally all they do is ruin everything they touch.
@@meat3958wasn’t the lootboxes thing a legal issue? Pretty sad to see it go though, even angrier to see them replaced with a dogshit shop and a battle pass.
@@meat3958yeah back when the game was paid for… their also weren’t nearly as many skins as there are now especially with the introduction of the battle pass. If they had loot boxes you’d literally have no reason to ever spend money and everything would be free. This is such a stupid take
@@brycenb2994 The fact that you think those items shouldn’t be obtainable through a REASONABLE amount of grinding for players that are able to hop on every day for an hour or two and playing just the game AND optionally spending money to avoid the longer grinding process to get the skins they want is the dumb take. Bootlick harder.
Not only Pharah's rework, but also 250 hp made her unbearable to counter, imo. You simply cannot have so much health on character who always creates an off-angle, has an advantage of the map verticality and has no falloff on her damage.
Pharah gets a lot of help from a lot of little issues, dps passive is very easy to apply, she’s stupidly mobile so dva can’t catch her, she shreds torb turret, new hinder can’t chase her. She’s way too good in lower rank and unlike souj you don’t need to aim that well while hit scan and projectile characters have a hard time tracking.
the fact that her dmg is splash means that she can constantly apply it to multiple people, so several people receive less healing and then she still has this insane amount of fast moving burst dmg.
Also going to say about the “audience wanting 6v6” people don’t want to admit that they needed a simpler format to make it anywhere.
There was people who were hard stuck silver/gold/plat that are finally hitting diamond/masters and feeling like they accomplished something.
Idk this game is cooked and so is the community.
This coming from some who has peaked t500 multiple times through out ow1’s history
Don't get your hopes up, the way blizzards good boys freedo and custa have been talking gives me the impression that they know 6v6 isn't being reevaluated.
I do hope I'm wrong, but I have my doubts when the hype club starts chattering.
As a support player, I’m either having to go mercy to pocket my hitscan at the moment, or I just go bap and have to perma shoot pharah. I suggest support players help their dps out and go baptise. He has heaps of sustain and can use his boost jump to see her easier around obstacles to kill her or the mercy. I’ve made lots of them switch by doing that.
Yeah, Bap is the best support to be against Pharah. With the second being Illari or Mercy depending on your DPS lineup. Ana is a fine choice on long range maps however Pharah can easily get ontop of Ana with her lack of mobility. I hope they revert Pharah, she shouldn't have 3 mobility options. She shouldn't do damage with concussion blast. She shouldn't have super fast rockets which she can easily spam chokes with (making it difficult to kill her with hitscan due to her time to kill being faster with her shoot, shoot, concussion combo).
@@Chazza-01 100% agree with your tips and opinion on her rework 👍
Before watching, I just wanna say something I haven't seen creators or other people bring up. The devs have been gigabuffing tanks in an attempt to make playing tank feel less miserable or make them more viable vs counters, but super buffing every tank only makes that problem worse. If you don't constantly counter the mega tank on the enemy team, then they just get to run free with this crazy OP hero and run the lobby. Over buffing tanks has only made the problem with counterswapping and CD dumping into the tank even worse.
Also I said it after one of the first dmg buffs after they upped the health pools of everyone, but they've continued to buff dmg numbers. They increased health pools to stop the feast or famine nature between nothing ever dies or everyone insta dying. The main thing that doesn't exist anymore is Hanzo 1 shot on squishies, and they could've just nerfed his damage. They should revert a lot of these and just straight up hard nerf a lot of healing and damage across the board.
valve finally addressed the bot problem in tf2 time to go back
The games just frustrating, especially if you solo queue. I only really play the game with friends, even then we get burnt out with frustration after an hour or two. Maybe competitive games aren’t for me anymore, but I’ve still had fun with other games I’ve taken seriously.
I agree with everything you said beside your illari takes. Couple seasons ago before they buffed her pylon nobody used her cause there were too many better option but now they buffed illaris pylon too much and now its too powerful. they just need to find a balance but making pylon be a periodical thing would never work.
The Lead Hero Designer doesnt have enough experience with FPS games. Boggles me that not enough people know about this.
Please make a rant pt2.
I'm honestly surprised people like you still care enough to want to make the game better. I bowed out at the health and hitbox changes. I really hate the direction the game is going in. 'Make the game as accessible as possible' is just making it as bland as possible.
What is depressing to me is that Blizzard knows that they are slowly killing their money maker, and they are doing nothing about it. 😣
Real talk when has overwatch been in a good spot and everyone has been *happy* with it's state?? 😂
I agree 😂 but for me it was anytime before Moira, she was the start of braindead characters
@@mfgooze2915 Agreed. Genji was in a good place, and the game was great during that time. Dive was pretty fun to play
@@brandicunningham7243 yup, Genji and Tracer are no longer fun to play with Moira around. If I could remove 1 character from Overwatch and was in a room with Moira, Mauga and this new stupid iteration of Hog I would remove Moira twice
October 2020 OW 1 yep perfect state of the game everything was playable and balanced
I been saying the majority of the changes they make now are to remedy the fact there's only one tank
You had me until you said "Put old Flashbang in"
Like- do you *play* Tank? Cause yeah, that's ALL we fuckin need a hard stun to add to the sleep, the boop, the hook, and EVERYTHING else so I *really* can't play the game
I would just prefer it over not being able to move at all over a longer period of time, If old flash did come back I would want the time actually stunned to go down in time. I understand what you're saying tho
Would it really be that much different to play tank against flashbang, rather than right now? It's gonna be garbage for tank either way, I think the whole argument that he is trying to make is that, at this point Blizzard has made a cool down on Cassidy that is just as unfun to play against as flashbang. So what's the difference for the switch? It sucks either way.
@@maskedsausage9431 Yes it would make a difference.
Hinder doesn't stop my rein shield, or my zarya bubble, or my sigma shift, or my Doomfist block, or My Hog breather, or my Ramatra block etc etc etc. Stun does and opens up for the wombo combo of every other CC having a free 2 seconds to hit my stunned ass.
So yes, it does make a difference.
Edit: And even for DPS it doesn't stop Genji deflect, or Mei Ice Block or Torb armored form, or Phara's Boop rocket.
Its arguments like this that let Blizzard say stupid shit like "Nostalgia is a hell of a drug" when talking about 6v6. Its just not an objective statement. Hinder sucks, stun was worse and would make the game worse.
@@ld1449 zarya bubble? sigma shift? with those you can just tank the flashban and the followup actually requires a lot of coordination to pull off. and in the wiki it says the stun used to last 0.8 seconds. i think you're exaggerating a little bit. with hinder you are also more vulnerable to CC because you can't really move. I used to enjoy tanking in OW1 and not OW2, so that's my take at least.
I think it’s more of a “make all these other changes AND add flash, not just add flash”
"Everyone who is high rank can tell what changes will do to the game" is the supidest thing ive heard, everyone thaught the passive healing would break the game, gess what? It did not, its one of the coolest changes. "Oh sojourn got 3 buffs one nerf? Why are they buffing sojourn" and shes now one of the worst main dps characters. YES people who play the game are pretty knowledgeable, NO, they are not able to balance the game.
"i hate how hinder doesn't let you crouch and slows ur movement. also i want old flash back." is quite a contradictory set of statements lmao
Trying to balance 5v5 is like playing seesaw with the chubby kid, doesn't matter what you do, bro is just going to send you flying. The discussion of balance in the 5v5 state is literally pointless, it can't be done, period.
This game usually helps my mental health but it’s just deteriorating it I think 😢
Someone pointed out I misspelled “something” in the thumbnail…. Career is over guys. Or did I purposely misspell is cus something is wrong….. get it
lol ur legit a whiny nobody ain’t no career to begin with
if you can’t take a little insult and harm then content creation is not for you
@@ryneweakley6420 ????? I was joking lol I think its funny
Every character got nerfed to balance instead of buffed for balance overwatch 1 was the last good overwatch
nearly spat my coffee at that stick @ 6:17 holyy
Honestly the main problem along with 5v5 is no one is dying in this game.
It’s so hard to kill anyone bullet after bullet the healing is just too much
Also regarding the format argument wouldn't it be more work to rework every 6v6 character than tune down the 5v5 broken characters. Like maybe take away one of sigmas abilities?
We need more Aaron Kellar impressions 😂😂😂
These devs are the rats they didn't fire that are actively burning the game to the ground.
There's No way they give Illari a crazy buff with self healing being the only "nerf" she got, Orisa got a micro buff why?
"Tanks aren't tanky enough" while the Unholy Trinity still exist in EVERY match I play.
There's a reason why 2-1-2 feels decent if not more enjoyable to play tank & why there are 6v6 Discord servers popping up.
I’ve been playing this game since AT LEAST season 3 of Overwatch 1. Why are we acting as if 5v5 is better than 6v6? Is it because the devs would rather watch their game fall to games like marvel rivals when it comes out rather than actually listening to the community? At this point I think Overwatch 1 was just a fluke and they managed to make an amazing game out of pure chance.
Different blizzard then, that blizzard is long dead
They're going to move away from role queue and implement a pick/ban draft system eventually. The game is going in a more competitive direction so doing that would be a no brainer. I also think they are going to implement other gameplay systems like talents for each hero, the pickable passives thing that they are going to do is a precursor to that.
Something that really annoys me is the stuff with venture they got like 0 love since their release like 0 legendary skins and 1 purple like what???
Genuine question: Why is Illari's Pylon uptime such an issue? Or that it needs to be on a timer? Because I think that if the Pylon had less HP, bigger hurtbox, and re-adjusted so that abilities and damaging Ultimates can take it out then it wouldn't be an issue and it'll be consistent with the other turrets in the game and making it easier to understand for the average player base
Idk, just an idea
Pharah kinda came out of nowhere. Calling her overtuned is weird since she's gotten a grand total of sweet nothing since her rework. People wanted her to get a buff in seasons 9 & 10. Her main issue buff was that the best hitscan is Cassidy who she out ranges. All of her usual counters are bad and mercy's pick rate skyrocketed due to the return of pink mercy.
Just remove conc's damage and she'll fall back to around A tier.
The reason why she's meta is the tank roster can't touch her and because hitscans don't really work like they used to. Tank's don't have an answer and all the old answers don't work
She was actually pretty strong from the rework but people werent utilizing its full potential. Now that the meta favors her and people have really improved with her its become all the more obvious how strong her rework was.
Bob is legit a Metal Gear zombie and I lowkey hate it... 😂
I was peak plat 3 dps and even I knew Pharah was broken right when she got her rework. She can close distances much easier.
5v5 really ruined Overwatch, it was already hard to balance at 6v6
My biggest issue of this seas9n was they had to take out a whole teir because the voicelines were global and then they removed the skins becsuse half the skins that were in the battle pass werent rewarded or exist
I loved this vid and ur opinions are valid af. But can you make a vid ab ur opinions on tank role?
Agree on some disagree in others. I don't really play competitively but some of the stuff I don't mind. Illari buffed healing pylon is sucky. I do thibk Cass roll should reduce less. But honestly main thing is I do prefer this version of flash so much more.
Like not being able to maneuver and being slowed sucks. But in no way would I prefer to not be able to fight back at all cus of stun.
If they really think the less than 10 characters theyve made for 5v5 would be hard to configure for 6v6 theyre definitely just wanting to dodge the whole situation. A vast majority of changes could just be REVERTED and then they can just tweak the new characters around that like what? Its difficult? TFYM?
Flying characters shouldn't be in the game. Just turn Pharah into TF2 Soldier.
Why pharah isnt immeadiately patched: pharah users had complained too long and to make an excuse for them not to complain you at least let them be meta for 1 season and let it all out after like 2 years of tracer hitscan dominated meta.
So here are my thoughts when it comes to the rants he brought up:
1) Pharah
-She is definitely overtuned. I like her new kit better, but she is a problem, much like all flying heroes. And probably what's crazier than Pharah is that the devs have yet to release a hot fix for her. After the Mauga meta, you'd think they'd be quicker about it. And to be fair, they did do it to Sigma and Roadhog. And yet, Pharah is ignored
2) Pharah, Junkrat, Bastion, Widow, and Sojourn = NEVER META
-Honestly, I agree. Enough said
3) Illari
-I think she is a bit overtuned as well, however, I personally don't think she isn't as bad as a Pharah. If anything, reduce Pylon's health and effective range, and she will be just fine. A timer on pylon may be a bit too much to be honest; that's why I included the effective range instead. And again, she is the poke Support, and that's fine. I just think she needs some tweak or else we end up with Support overly dominating again
4) Cassidy
-In comparison to Sojourn in the past, I am very happy that Cass in here as he is. I think the current flashbang is better than the previous flashbang in OW1, at least it is for OW2. While yes it does need a slight number tweak and remove crouch limits, I'd prefer this than a normal flashbang. Then again, I used to main him and Sombra when I played DPS, though I'm usually stuck playing Tanks now. THAT BEING SAID! I do think his roll is overtuned. If anything, increase the distance and reduce the damage reduction.
5) Pros in the Staff
-This will forever be a problem for OW. Because in the end, who should they cater to? Casuals and fun, or pro and competitive? This is something that has always been a hot topic, and honestly I don't think it can be answered at this moment in time.
6) 6v6
-Listen, as I want 6v6 to return, I believe that 5v5 will stay no matter what. Whether it is due to new philosophy, engine issue, etc, I don't care as long as they finally acknowledge the discussion instead of being cagey. In the end, I just want them to make a good game.
7) Master Rank
-Despite playing the game since OW1's launch, I'm a solid low platinum, so this has nothing to do with me lol
8) Tanks being Tankier
-Honestly, this doesn't surprise me int he slightest. After all, it's either gigatank simulator or CC magnet who blows up instantly. There is no middle ground since tanks are the last role to rely on their team as they are specialists on one thing, meanwhile Damage/Support can make plays by themselves as they are generalists who can do just about everything. So if this is what it comes to, then bring it on!
So, let's not talk about 6v6ers against 5v5ers let's talk about how many people abandoned the game for its tremendous status but not abandoned the game when double shield was meta
Hope you reach 4000 subs soon. No idea if my previous comment made it lol
i agree with mostly everything here, but 6v6 will not save this game nor make it better
I sweat my ass off in this game for what? to get “outskilled” by passive game mechanics that require zero skill yet provide maximum utility.
Click a fuckin button and win. So infuriating.
The game is too like "simple" or like dumb downed now. Support heroes should not be dps heroes who have the option to heal, immortal abilities need to be gutted, 6v6 needs to be back, they need to stop taking away the ability to punish heroes for a mistake or mismanaging their cooldowns. Like I still will never understand why Roadhog has the ability to heal and hook in his ult? What happened to punishing him whenever he used that at the wrong time? I also think Role Passive for dps is insane. I swear they didnt think about bastion just holding left click shredding the tank and lowering the amount of healing they get.
I'll also keep saying this for as long as I play the game. I swear the double shield stuff everyone hated from Overwatch 1 could've legit been fixed if they just nerfed or reworked bap and brig, nerfed sigma, and possibly reworked Orisa. Sigma himself should've never been in the first game but that's a whole different thing.
Dont play a game that has a casino like matchmaking algorithm
it almost sounds like phara isn't the issue but the lack of the 2nd tank
Both.
All the best to content creation and you get to 4k subs soon. I think that's one of the requirements for revenue right
How did you misspell “something” in your thumbnail lol
LOL gg.
Cus something is wrong… get it
They should remove Cassidys grenade all together and instead allow him to THROW HIS HAT and his hat twirls and boops victims and if there are any allies within range the hat will also target them and chain between enemies until the hat flies back to cassidy or cassidy has to walk over and pick his hat up and
I've been playing for less then a year and as far as I can tell Sombra needs a nerf/rework andi fought a pharah yesterday as Symetra and i had to bait her into a tight space to kill her, it was pretty bad
If I’m being honest phara isn’t the issue it’s the fact that it’s 5v5
Hot take I know tank isn’t amazing but we’ve all played those game where it literally feels futile to shoot at a tank like I’d get more value watching paint dry then solo shoot at a tank with 4+ other people looking at them and they want to buff tanks to make them even more sustainable I am so bored of looking at Mauga and Hog and just know I can’t fucking touch them every hero has lost their identity because the health pools are just crazy
I play overwatch now only to help me fall asleep it’s that boring 😂
I would much rather have junkrat be meta than cass. Cass is ridiculous. How is he even a character in this game anymore???
1:58 we have heroes in this game who have nearly zero lore, yet they're very interesting characters. Which is a crime that they don't have any animations up to this moment. Why would they do an animation to a new hero when previous ones aren't even developed :(
2:36 that sounds like someone can't play poke playstyle lol. Let's make all the maps in the pool kings row and no one's gonna complain!!111!!11!
What's a green rank?
The rank icon for master is green, it used to be gold/yellow
@@MK-mm7ui o wow why? Is that the same color for the ranks below that? I used to remember it being gold too but granted that was way back in ow1 season 4 last I played
@@Karthig1987 it was pretty similar to the gold ranks icon. The rank icons changed when overwatch 2 launched, and then again when ow2 season 9 dropped. Idk why they changed colors of some rank icons, but i like some of the changes
swap sojurn with sombra for me stg the game isnt balanced for invisibility or flight its just not.
Tbh I prefer hinder of flash because atleast you can fight back and Cass can’t just easily fan the hammer like in ow1. But I agree with most of the other things you said.
Pylon should just be on a timer then return or disappewr on death. I love Illari but I definitely think she is overtuned
skins and overwatch have absolutly nothing to do with each other ♥
When I finish the battle pass I’m uninstalling for another few seasons. Fk overwatch. I lost 2 games in quick play and every game after was the worst players the game has to offer. I’m done.
I don't even play OW and I thought the ram ult when it came out was goofy. Illari pylon too. Now they boosted it's health hahahahaha. Only thing they could do worse is make bap lamp infinite uptime by that requiring to be way closer would make it more killable hahahahaha. Except maybe around corners but at least it would need to be close.
Also old Cassidy flash bang coming back? Lol that they did all the changes just to make things worse and worse. Only played till ow1 season 4 and it was kinda good lol even if very short stun duration. Maybe I am remember it wrong and it was too long lol. Was great for ulting genjis flying in and tracer killing lol. Or stopping a rein charge
I’m not a pharah player but tbh I like her being meta she has been out of the meta for so so long and hitscans are horribly boring imo
Just saying a 5v5 defenders only arguments are queue times which would had never happened if we actually had updates for the last two and half years for overwatch 1 and the other argument which is double shield.
Which if you actually played overwatch 1 was easily counter by Double Bubble zarya Winston, hog ball torture, and hog/zarya.
Like people love these buzzwords and simply want a more accessible game they don’t have to try as hard to think about strats going into a fight.
We need tanks to have their open queue health values and to have their abilities only affect themselves and have two tanks to pick up each others weaknesses.
The only tank that shouldn’t be touched is Zarya she should be able to bubble herself or the other tank twice, just don’t shoot the bubble.
They’re scared to admit they changed the game we once loved to appease new players that require a simpler game with their TikTok brains.
*ILLARI SHOULD NOT HAVE A DPS ULTIMATE*
I agree with a lot here but idk about bringing flashbang back man that thing was terribly annoying
Why illaris paylon should be nerf? It still breakable and has a lot of cooldowns, and illaris own healing beam takes a lot to reload
Lmao you pulsed me at 8:26
I was gonna agree with you until ur take on hinder nade. Flash should not come back, it is way way more oppressive than hinder. At least being able to slightly shoot or fight back in some way is better than completely being unable to play the game.
My issue is the roadmap of content, there shouldn't be one. Give the players what you promote immediately, it hardly draws longevity spreading it out.
i hope the game dies because that isnt its worst fate. the worst possible fate is fading into obscurity while they cling onto a constantly revolving door of a playerbase from season to season lol. but at least queue times are good... right....?
agree with most but not flashbang. Stun would absolutely be worse to deal with, like a lot of the stuff hinder does that you're complaining about also applies to stun plus with the added bonus of taking your ability to do ANY form of defending yourself especially if done on a tank. On top of that he should not have any form of stun period. he's already a decent character without it, why does he need to slow or stop a target on top of that? Ashe doesnt need it, even widow doesnt and they're able to function fine. Give him a frag grenade he can shoot, give him two rolls that dont stop damage like his one roll, give him SOMETHING other than another CC. If he's struggling to do anything without literally denying the other player the ability to play the game then that's a badly designed character who needs retooling, not a doubling down of what makes him hated by his opponents.
Man this game, im so happy the first descendant is out so i can play it while this game continues getting worse with every season
I am a hardcore roadhog and rein main and only play them as they are the most fun and would play them whether they were good or not (they were mostly not in the first seasons, at least for roadhog) and i enjoyed not being overpowered but still fair to a degree
Now that i don’t have anyone to peel for me, me being a super tank feels like good for the first game then it becomes a cooldown simulator because everyone dumps it on you since you’re the only front player there
Also can’t wait for marvel rivals too lol
I’m definitely not playing at as high a level but imo swap junk for sombra. Bane of all support and removes fun kit while being invisible for 99% match
As a support main, I hate you 😊