ALSO sorry if like my mic picked up on some gross mouth sounds (idk how else to describe it) and if it was unevenly sound balanced I tried ;-; But I hope you all enjoy nonetheless and lmk your own throughts/experiences towards overwatch! I will probably still make some ow content from whatever ANCIENT left over clips I have!
So many of my friends have quit the game just has so many balance problems and they really need to bring back 6v6. I resorted to playing junkrat just for fun now.
@@BTRshow Its not realy a war the reality is 5v5 isnt working and the devs cant fix it and never will but becouse its Blizzard/Team4 they refuse to every admit if anything they do didnt woke so we keep just sitting in that strang limbo were everybody knows the only realy option is 6v6 but also we know its not gone happen
@xythiera7255 there is a war, between pro 5v5 and pro 6v6 people. The amount of popular videos of sides going after eachother is pretty high. I agree with you, 5v5 isn't working. Like you said tho, Team 4 will never fix it or really properly balance it. Overwatch 2 will never be in a good state with team 4. That's something we all just have to accept.
OW1 was such a unique experience, you could play one character in OW1 for years and never get bored cause there were so many variables and situations to get into . Even with characters that have a simple kit, it allowed people who didn’t even have an fps background to express their skill in more ways than just raw aiming . OW2 killed this concept in attempt to make the game easy for everyone .
I never got the chance to play overwatch 1, I was so excited to finally get to play 2. I think Overwatch 2 is one of the worst multiplayer games i've ever played.
I think the mainstream reason people don't like OW2 is the fact that 6v6 is gone. Because once you lose your one tank, you WILL be at a serious disadvantage and it's just not fun at all.
@@feenixsarchive and tanks SUCK TO PLAY (im a tank player).. Tank is like the quarerback but tanks cant finish it, they are in the role to pop off, but are useless lol hope its understandable xd
I remember before they nerfed the supports and healing the game would basically be a skylander boss. You had to kill both the supports and then work around the dps to get to the tank and as soon as he’s dead you’ve just won
when they removed one tank from the pool it was fun playing as dps but as a flex player, playing as tank now is miserable........ This has been an ongoing issue and blizzard is SOMEWHAT taking into account of it now.
I feel ya on the love and loss of OW1. OW2 felt...off for some reason. It wasn't until recently I put the pieces together. Without that 2nd tank, every roll has to be a "shooter" more. I was a support main and it was nice being able to contribute to the match without having to aim well like you said. You can still get that feeling a little with Mercy in OW2, but everything else feels more FPS driven which I'm terrible at. OW1 was nice because you could still contribute to your team without being a McShooty master.
YES YOU'RE SO RIGHT!! I also noticed the lack of a second tank made the game very much dps focused, hence why supports became so strong and able to get more picks I think.
OOH another point i was thinking (as a tank player) is that they have to be way more overtuned even though their design hasn’t changed making tanking always miserable
The constant checking stats is so relatable, I used to be so confident on playing my favourite hero ball but now with one tank it’s hard to enjoy with all the high demands of what people expect from your one tank player. Also when I heard that PvE was being cancelled after waiting all that time in Overwatch 1, it was so painful because I was so invested in the lore that made me want to learn more about the story. Tysm for sharing your opinion
Thank you for sharing your experience! :) Ugh, when they completely cancelled PvE, I felt super bad for anyone who was even remotely interested in the lore and anyone who bought the missions from a while ago. It's such a shame they literally lied to us.
I think its because tank players are the glue to keep the team together. You could have a good tank but if the enemy team has a great tank your tank will seem like a bronze
I miss borders, I miss end cards, I miss seeing my rank, I miss 6v6, I miss telling the homies I only got 2 more arcade wins for a lootbox. The very same homies I played with for 5 years in OW1 quit 1 by 1 in OW2. I hate the fact they removed borders, end cards, rank icon, 1 tank and the FOMO shop on rotation to get a skin with real life currency. We still don't even have weapon inspects when they showed it off all the way back in OW2 trailers. They killed the promised PVE which was the biggest selling point for OW2. Then you got thanos walking around as the solo tank snapping his fingers, and the worst part is they either do not die or die instantly, miserable. OW2 is a failure.
@@feenixsarchive Well as long as the community can come together and outright stop purchasing the dumb overpriced bullshit from the shop, then maybe we will be able to get it available to every hero. But I doubt that will ever happen. This community has too much apathy (like myself) or a few too many stupid whales that don't care about the state of the game and will buy everything in the shop and will ruin this game's future in the long run. It took us what like 9 seasons to finally release premium currency in the battle pass... but not enough for the next one. And yet no one will call it out. Sorry for the little rant. I just wish I could have my old overwatch that I spent 3500 hours on.
@@acorn1265 Why tf are they tied to mythic weapons? The trailer literally showed it on default skins implying you could use it for any skin. The pure greed is astounding.
I relate so strongly to your experience. The exception being that I only started with Overwatch 2. I genuinely don't know how the developers think that this game is even remotely okay. I have nearly 1,000 hours in Overwatch 2 and a good chunk of that is me just gritting my teeth and hoping that it gets better. The game I loved died a few seasons into It's lifetime, and even then it is clearly worse than the original. Even I can see that. Anyways, my life has dramatically improved since I stopped playing. I still think about the game nearly every day, and I'm genuinely sad that I can't play anymore. But Overwatch 2 is literally unhealthy for itself and it's players.
No thisssssss. I think I'm roughly closer to 2k hours total from ow1 and 2??? I can't remember, but man it's definitely been going downhill ever since ow2's release and I wish it didn't go in that direction :(( I totally felt you on trying to cling on to some hope for the game lol, I stayed a lot longer than I thought I would've, and quitting was kind of difficult. I'm glad you took the step away from the game and I hope you find another game that's more rewarding and healthier in a sense :D
Papa Jeff leaving Blizzard was a very-very bad sign for overwatch's soul, making bad solo tank experience in 5v5 format and cancelling PvE entirely proves it.
Honestly I think the reason we feel this way is not having 6v6. You just have to counterpick everything or you can’t play, so you end up playing characters you don’t want to, leading to not having fun.
Are you bronze rank or something? This is counter picks the game. And if you don't counter pick your team will yell at you all game because its so vital. @geert574
@@feenixsarchive But this wasn't natural. This was uniquelely awful. The transition to OW2 sure redefined the sequel into being Overwatch 0.75. More cut content than we got. But you're right about it happening naturally 100%
@@feenixsarchive and the format change has ruined 1/3 of the game for many of us. I miss dual tanking. I think the DPS passive should be changed to more damage to shields and we should go back to 6v6
Jeff was the reason behind 5v5 just fyi. He first proposed the 1-3-2 format that everyone hated and also was behind the character design for Orisa and the other one dimensional characters. Jeff seems like a nice guy for sure but I don’t think he knew how to solve the puzzle of the game they created.
Do you mean when Microsoft bought them? Activion merged with Blizzard in 2008 so 8 years before Overwatch. If you mean the microsoft merge that also makes no sense as Overwatch 2 was very far in development by the Microsoft got involved. @huckmart2017
hey i hope you're well. i must say,this is a very good video. overwach for me is love and hate. im currently trapped in high silver/low gold because whenever i win a game i end up either getting worse teamates or i get rolled by the other team. ive put hundreds of hours into the game and ive gotten better,but the matchmaking system for lower ranks just doesnt help in any way. i look forward to seeing more of your videos.
Thank you for your comment, it means a lot ^^ Man, even in higher ranks I'm ngl the matchmaking is just as bad. There's always bound to be people on your team who just can't beat the enemy team so it's mainly a team diff all around. It definitely felt like to me, no matter if I'm getting better, if their team is just better than there's only so much you can do tbh.
I hate hate hate how much I can relate to this, Overwatch is so close and dear to me...yet has been going trough the same motions as you. Thank you for being vocal about such a human thing, I shed a few tears bahaha
I remember how fun the game used to feel like when I first started playing it, grouping up with my friends and pulling all nighters, now I see myself hoping for that glimpse of the past and logging on every day just praying that maybe, just maybe, that fun that I used to have would return somehow. But deep down I know that is over, I'm using nostalgia to cope with the hate and disgust that I feel every time that I open this game.
I hate OW but my timeline of getting there happened so much faster. I started playing OW2 around April 2023 after Lifeweaver was released. I had always been interested in the game back during its release but I heard how toxic it was and was scared to try but with OW2 being free to play and PVE being in the works I was excited to try. And then not only did I find out that PVE wasn't happening but Lifeweaver was considered a throw pick for awhile and even today isn't considered that great competitively and people still constantly make videos about how bad he is. He's the hero I joined the game to play because I liked his kit so much. I have hundreds of hours on him, more than any other character and yet just bc of how he's valued and his kit I can't even feel comfortable playing competitive without being told Im throwing. As such I ended up playing characters I was unfamiliar with in the beginning of my competitive journey and as a result I fell in rank really hard. I slowly climbed back up but I was so discouraged I just gave up comp immediately. What's the point of playing something if I cant even play the characters I like? I have long since muted all chats aside from group & whispers and I exclusively play QP now. But when a game feels like this what's the point of playing it? I've resolved to play through the Battle Pass on each new season but other than that I don't play. I've gone back to my WoW roots and tbh it's so liberating. Dying in WoW for the first few times actually gave me anxiety and I realized it was bc of OW. Mount farming and daily quests are so much more relaxing lol
Omg I've seen some amazing lifeweavers in my time playing, but they def aren't very common bc he just gets outclassed by all the other supports. I'm sorry you felt discouraged from playing someone you really enjoyed in a competitive setting
Ngl u soft fr if u can't handle a lil trash talk but ye after ow1 they started lowering the skill cealing on all characters I play genji when ow1 launched and they removed bufferdashing they added the ability to cancel deflect when u can already do that by wall climbing they removed infinite wall climb and ledge super dash they do all this just to make the character ez to play making it more accessible
Bruh the auto moderation are so bad that if you speak anything AND someone doesnt like you You could get muted or banned LW seems like a weak pick BUT if you got crazy reinhardt and managed to save his ass everytime You get my honor my friend. Not even mercy could save reinhardt
my brother introduced me to the overwatch beta back when i was only 8 years old. i practically grew up playing overwatch and it sucks so much seeing a game you loved so dearly fall so far from what it once was.
As a Reinhardt main. I sympathize. I stopped playing a while back and felt exactly the same way. I was a main tank in OW1 and took pride in it, I loved the intense teamplay... Now the identity I enjoy roleplaying in OW has been gutted of its soul.
Remembering Overwatch 1 feels like I’m remembering a close friend that I’ll never see again. I made so many incredible memories and it was genuinely the most fun game I have ever played. Of course, it had a it’s fair share of issues, but the community and fluid nature of the game encouraged teamwork and communication in a way I had never experienced before and have failed to find since. Elements of this still exist in Overwatch 2, but it just feels like a neutered version of the game I fell in love with. In retrospect, I don’t think the people making decisions about the game really ever understood what made it so great. It really bums me out that the game I fell in love with only exists alongside the memories I made in it - in the past and in my memory.
Thissssss hit home. Nothing else was quite like ow1, and it's a shame it's all a part of our memories now. I cope now that the dev team will try to restore it to its former glory but I highly doubt it.
OW used to be so good. I dont hate Overwatch 2, I just hate playing it if that makes sense. I had to uninstall it or get stuck in the cycle because its addicting but miserable to play.
Were at the same situation we were at the end of OW1 with the difference that pretty much every character in the game now feels worse and the gameplay just feels like deathmatch, after quitting the game you feel so much better
I really felt you there. It's why it was my main game for so long. But I tried apex and valorant which are kinda similar to ow but not really. I'd suggest those ^^
I dunno, I just really miss how scrappy old Overwatch was compared to this. Where it felt like you actually entered a back and forth instead of a definite win or loss. Old Overwatch characters were designed around having a high risk and high reward. Genji, Reaper, Winston, Tracer, you just commit to what you're doing by entering the fray and doing the best you can to sync up what enemies you fight. But OW2 is catering to this very boring playstyle where characters get a very inordinate amount of leverage for the amount of engagement they need. Widow can one shot you from whole maps away. All ana has to do is sit in her backline and no one can touch her. They get rewarded for minimal interaction. It's unfun to play WITH too. Weaver waits around and opens himself up to flank. Ashe will tunnel vision opening themselves up to flank. I just want to engage. And if I decide to play the game, I'm at a net disadvantage cause the enemy has less to target.
And 5v5ers will say that 6v6 wasn't good and all of us have nostalgia and rose tinted glasses for ow1, the problem isn't nostalgia, the problem is the format that forces you to counterswap constantly, as Flats said, team 4 originally mentioned that they wanted to keep the option to main a character (because they knew there were a lot of otp's), then, when they weren't able to maintain that condition, they changed the argument that it was intended for players to switch characters. Team 4 can't accept their errors, they will do whatever they could to simply not accept that they messed up, an example of this is when they ignored the community asking for 6v6 (subject that luckily seems that they are going to talk about sooner or later). In conclussion, what made overwatch feel so unique was the strong and weak points of every character that in a symmetric format (6v6) each one could cover the weakness of the other, by removing a tank, now the game forces you to focus the weakness of the remaining one since they buffed them so hard that there's no other option, then with the new format a lot of other issues have occurred also, and the solution for blizz was to buff other roles in an infinite cycle of stubbornness against accepting that they did something wrong in the first place. New players might like the game at it's current state (since the only thing you need to do is to know each character's counter and the skill level has dropped a lot (bigger hitboxes and hitscans having more angles caused by the missing tank)), but for ow1 veterans the game feels boring. At this point if there was an option to play 6v6 even with double shields and longer queues, I'd gladly take that 100 times than playing a single match of counterwatch.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts :) I completely stand by everything you said. Team 4 being stubborn and not fixing their errors, counterwatch being unfun, the lowering of skill on basically every character, big sigh all around tbh
12:10 this is so so agreable, i really miss overwatch 1, sure lots of cc, shield etc but there was so many thing to learn, and overwatch was my comfort game and same goes to mercy, her movement overall was so smooth, i wished i had more time and chance to learn it better back then, and big part also the fact that every celebration there is skins you can get for free essentially if you have enough coin, now you have to play, it sucks. everything pretty locked behind walls, "new game" but they started bringing back cass flashbang and trying to make rein shield more tankier, like you might as well open back overwatch 1, all they do is lie and lie to make you come back. stressing over stats especially with characters like ana and kiriko is so relatable, i was initially gonna reach gold.. was close in overwatch 1 but didnt happen, i dont know im kinda yapping sorry, just feel unnecessary to hype ow2 anymore, with everything they didnt do.. plus in ow1 you can play qp and actually have fun, where if you see now, its just too many sweat, toxicity at its max, you cant even have place to practice hero you want without getting dump with bucket of crap.. thank you for sharing your opinion and experience feenix, it made me happy to know you not forcing yourself to play this game anymore and do what you actually want
YES overwatch 1, even if I reached the highest rank, I still felt like I had room to improve and that was the best part. I wanted to get better and it seemed like I could continuously grow :D unlike ow2 it just felt like I wasn't able to grow "better" without playing the "meta" heroes. OMG BRING BACK LOOTBOXES LIKE PLEASE. The game was "pay to win" at some point when you had to buy the bp to unlock the new broken hero that recently released too it was ugh. They messed up balancing and going back to ow1 is their only solution 💀 ow2 is just simply not as fun. Don't apologize for yapping, Im doing a lot of that already LMAOO I appreciate you listening to me and sharing your experience as well
I felt every word you said. OW had such a special place in a my heart and I would have so much fun. I just couldn’t, I tried but OW2 didn’t feel the same, I played it till January and then finally I decided to stop playing. I just hope they bring back OW or at least just bring 6v6.
I can relate to this video so much. It actually touched my heartstrings, because I like you find it so hard to let go. I've "quit" Overwatch several times through the years even with OW1 but something always brought me back. It's this thought that one day I might feel that excitement like I used to back in 2016 and fomo with the skins. A part of me is still holding out that 6v6 will return and that I'll be happy I invested my time and money if or when Overwatch returns to those glory days. I wanna play Mercy and Kiriko too, but feel like I'm at a disadvantage so often when I meet a Bap, Lucio or Ana. You know the game is in a bad place when you are "forced" to play heroes you don't want/like just to keep up with the rest of the players. As a support main what I always loved was feeling like I could lift my teammates, enable them to pop off. It just feels great when you get that perfect rez or ultimate and turn the tides of the team fight. I've always gravitated towards supports in games, and I think it's for this reason. The fact that you know they really appreciate having you in their team, that you got their back. When they fall, you are there to lift them back up. Also thank you for the Chrono Cross music
Omg, I relate to you so much. There was a time, especially when I was taking longer breaks from ow (aka a couple days), what always brought me back was exactly the same reason as you! I was playing to find that same nostalgic experience back in ow1. BUT YES enabling your team and feeling like you had impact >>>>>> main reason why I play support. But yeah, getting "forced" to play the "meta" heroes was just :/ Awww 🥹 ofc! Chrono Cross music just hits different 😌
Girl i feel you… you worded it extremely well… and you sharing your relationship with the game, being focused on numbers and all, was very insightful for me. A kind and warm thank you from this stranger to another ♥️ Thank you for sharing this🌺
My hope for 6v6 is the only reason i still play this game but i made the decision recently to just play a lot less. before it was everyday now its 3 times a week maybe
I came to terms with the fact that I will never be a high elo player. I don't know why, there is just something about this game that doesn't click with me. I also refuse to play every day, so that might be why. If being GM means wasting my life away, then I'm okay being gold forever and enjoying myself.
Such a compelling journey. This was beautiful and I support that break from the game. I love overwatch so much and I would step back if I felt the way you did about it. Thank you so much for sharing your experience. It was really interesting.
oh my god that kings row game brought me back… i miss it so much. it’s so miserable ive had to quit aswell. now i love playing elden ring with a clear conscience - it’s fun but especially with coop
you thought you were addicted to Overwatch?? hahaha, just wait until ER clicks for you! now *thats* a game worth playing!! gotta say tho, i felt that sentiment of yours where you said you lost all passion to play, let alone to improve. the stress of rank, the stats, dealing with toxicity and just general bullshit when life already has enough of that? yeah... it wasn’t fun, wasn’t worth it. it’s hard to find motivation when the game is unfun, unbalanced, counter-dependant, boring and unrewarding. none of my OG friends play anymore, and just the way it plays feels like an uncanny ghost of itself designed to waste my time and money (WHICH IT DID! we all paid for OW1 and they just straight up deleted our game like WTAF???) …when i realised it would never be the same again, i tried to focus on having fun - until THAT feeling went away aswell, and i just could not find a genuine reason to play it at all after that. none. nothing. that shit is straight up mentally damaging now i swear lol if you want to find passion for a game again, i promise you Elden Ring and other soulslikes are the experience you’re looking for. they are literal works of art. beautiful craftsmanship, a developer with a passion and an original team with a vision?!? never has a game made me feel like that. i really could go on forever but i shouldnt spoil. you’ll know what i mean when it hits you ;D anyway, thanks for reading my wall. loved the vid, and i wish you the best post OW-addiction! just remember- dont give up, skeleton! 💚💚💚
hehe ER is def my first souls game and I'm going in blind but I'll persevere! It looks amazing already and I can't wait to go deeper into it to see the bliss that is elden ring. I'm glad you were able to relate a lot to my concerns playing as well, it's honestly really nice T^T It does sucks when a game becomes unfun and not worth to play anymore. I appreciate your comment sm! :D
even watching your old OW1 gameplay makes me feel like the vibe is completely different, like the way the game looks more unique and how much more relaxed it was.
As a fellow GM/T500 player (though I played tank), same thing happened to me - took a break and realized I didn't even really like the game anymore and that break just got longer and longer until I barely cared. When I came back, I had no motivation to play or climb. It feels like a chore I'm forced to do. I don't know if it's the inferior ranked system, terrible reward incentives for play time or the gameplay loop changing, it's probably a combination of everything. I just stopped caring. Don't know how Blizzard managed to make me stop caring about a game I would play 8+ hours a day, but congrats, they managed to do it.
Wholesome algorithm find. OW1 was definitely seemed less hectic, but thankfully i quit playing a few seasons before they shut the game down. All those hours of aiming gud didn't go to waste though, the skills transferred. Same for you, it improves your brain memory and made you good at managing probably stressful situations. Thanks for sharing this part of your life, definitely a lesson and something to remember
In the exact same boat, and while it makes me sad to see so many folks losing a game they love like I did, this sudden outpouring of smaller creators--regular people like me--has given me a sense of catharsis and reassurance that no it's not just me and that the game that I used to love did in fact change
The number thing is so true. . I focused on my stats so much even tho i was fine. I slowly realized they truly didnt matter bc i could have all the kill, the best healing and still lose. I start to question my skill, my enjoyment and everything i tried working towards. The game made me feel hopeless and i start to notice my attitude changed aswell. From easy-goung, carefree and only wanting to have a good time to overly competitive, toxic and harsh on myself. Its so weird how i grew up on this game and how it affected me.
Your explanation was precise and clear thank you sm hun u did ur best for ur friends and ur teammates but maybe it’s ok to just move on honestly life is about change…even with pink mercy the underlying problems are still there u still won’t be happy after awhile.
I fully agree with you. I lost my passion for this game completely. I was an off-tank player in ow1 (only main tank I really played was rein) and I loved how tanks synergized with each other. Being the only tank has been absolutely miserable. I will not return unless 6v6 comes back and if doesn't... oh well 🤷♂️
this videos sums up 50% of my experience with overwatch. sometimes its like this, and then other times im actually enjoying myself. I have a love hate relationship with this game
I started playing OW in late 2016 and all throughout 2017, 2018 and half of 2019 I played it religiously. I was utterly in love with this game and the characters. I mained tracer, widow, zen and dva. I quit in 2019 because I just wasn't allowed to play the game by the devs OR the people I matched with. I stopped playing tracer (even before dmg stats were visible to everyone LOL) people still cried about me not doing anything for the team even though I was a nightmare for healers in the backline. I also stopped playing widow because over time the double shield meta became more and more widespread and it got to a point where it seemed like even the most casual team in quickplay full of average joes was playing double shield and for a player like me who spent hundreds of hours practicing my aim, for some casual to just hold right click and immediately make all those hours irrelevant was infuriating. Sure, I could still get some highlights here and there and win a few rounds for my team, but it wasn't nearly as consistent as before at all. Playing dva I was always the off tank and unless I was eating ults, I was once again told to switch. I'm 100000% sure these were all idiots that were echoing whatever their favorite youtuber or pro player said about dva. I was constantly putting so much pressure as dva and saving my teammates with def matrix but in the end I always felt unappreciated. It's funny that most of my encouragement from the game was actually negative and toxic in nature because it wasn't my teammates who told me I was playing good, it was the enemy team raging and seething over me. When I was doing good, my team almost never acknowledged it and just focused on the one genji that popped off twice during the match, or the pocket heals. My will to play continued to dwindle over time even though my love for the game was still there. (muting players worked wonders at first for my mental heatlh, but then the man children on my team would start throwing because of it) Over time me and the friend I used to play with were constantly uttering the words "let's play quickplay to get to play whoever we want" and when I noticed this is when I knew things had been wrong for a long while. Shortly after that, after a couple of "relapses" I quit and started playing monster hunter (which became my new passion) and I suddenly felt alive again. Because of this I knew I was never going back to overwatch. When OW2 released I decided to give it a try. I thought "hey, maybe I can get to play widow now that there's only 1 tank" but oh man the game felt so off. I stuck with it for a week but I really wasn't enjoying my time with it despite getting to play widow for the first time in years. Since it's release... well... YOU know the rest of the story. Having the game I loved constantly push me away little by little by the devs themselves and the community was sad, and to come back for a week after OW2 only to see it be a shell of it's former self was even more sad. I'll always miss 2016 - 2018 overwatch :(
Ugh I've seen those experiences (from former teammates or my friends) of being told to switch off even though they're leaving an impact on the enemy team and making them upset, but the team just puts the blame on them anyways. It's definitely been tough with the game sucking out people's enjoyment of playing and on top of the toxic community, but taking a step away from it does wonders fs :) I'm glad you found a new passion for monster hunter!
Great video! I primarily listen to my videos at work via Bluetooth earbuds for content while I work away and I came back to say that I appreciate how consumable your content is via audio only. Interesting video! I’d love to see more video essay/rant/story videos like this, your voice suits it 😊👍
I think the best way I can put it is that overwatch 2 just feels directionless and hollow with random change for the sake of change. Directionless in the sense of pointless character redesigns, time of day changes that ruin art direction, how uncohesive hero select animations seem now, the new ranked system, 5v5 and game direction as a whole. Hollow in how the monitization changes removed basically all forms of progression, the loss of PVE and any progression of lore, skins for the sake of a battle pass theme instead of things that fit the character. I know most of these things are "trivial" but the game has slowly ship of Theseus's itself into a compelelty different experience I want no part in. I guess that's what happens when most of the old dev team leaves blizzard. Comparing it to a similar shooter I love and still do Splatoon and how that series progressed foreward while maintaining the soul of the series makes me sad to see the state of OW.
I absolutely agree with how directionless and pointless ow2 became. Some kit reworks seemed a little like they did it for the sake of "change" rather than what was needed. Progression became bleh, and lots of other things.
Just quit Overwatch too. Uninstalled and deleted my accounts. Although i'm not a high level player and cannot relate to the extent of the higher ranks, I feel the exact same way. I was constantly chasing a feeling/emotion to have some extra fun and excitement to end the day and feel fulfilled , always looking forward to having my "me time" by hoping on but 2 days ago, it hit me differently.. The game was simply not doing me any good anymore, for my mental, my emotional well-being and a plethora of other reasons which was finally enough for me to step away from it. Thanks for this video and I hope that it will inspire others to take care of themselves, and for those still playing, i'm hoping you all keep having fun and enjoy great company playing!
I can really relate to the idea of the characters you play holding you back in certain situations but not wanting to play the stronger characters because you simply don't find them fun. The way you described it as a drag is exactly how I feel about that dynamic with OW2. A game is meant to be fun and when part of the games premise is pick whoever character you want to play out of this large roster, and then you do that only for the game scenario to basically say "well actually you can't choose that character this match if you want to be able to play the game," it just feels awful.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts :) The whole thing where you are inclined to play a certain pool of characters in order to be "able to play" and also win (counter swapping for instance) just takes away how vast the hero roster actually is. It definitely feels limiting at points when it feels like there's one "right" character to play in a certain scenario.
Jesus this makes me feel old. I was 25 when OW1 came out, and I was HOOKED. For a couple years at least, and then it started getting stale. I came back into Overwatch in 2022 just before OW2 was supposed to to lunch. I feel like I've been chasing that high from 8 years ago, and it just isn't there anymore. I get glimmers of it every once in a while, and the battle passes would keep me grinding, but after almost two years, I feel like it's time to let it go again. RIP to what could've been a game in the GOAT conversation, if it were taken care of the way it deserved to be from day one.
Trying to chase after the glimmer from 8 years ago is so real, I felt that deeply. Oh to dream of what the days would've been like if the game didn't lose itself in its prime form
@@feenixsarchive Agreed. I'm sure all of us, the current devs, and Jeff Kaplan himself all daydream about what OW could've been, if only they had the right support and longterm plan from day one. Such a fun cast of characters and universe too to go to waste. Thanks for sharing your experience with this vid, it really resonated with me.
I was a huge fan of this game. I've been playing the game since OW1 Season 3. i was a hardcore Zenyatta Main, and the highest I ever got was Grandmaster. i met a lot of great people because of this game. And I'm still friends with those people today. But i found the game, not fun anymore. I thought it would get better when they released the PVE stuff because I was really looking forward to that. But then they said they weren't gonna do it anymore, so it made me really mad. So I just stopped playing it, and I still haven't played it since. And then they brought 6 V6 back. Yeah, that's cool. But what was the point of making a sequel in the first place. It just made me really miss old overwatch. That's why I went back in and started rewatching butcher old overwatch videos on TH-cam back when the community was still alive. You know. But thankfully, Marvel rivals came out and it's basically old overwatch.
That's honestly why I stopped streaming. I was pulling some pretty good numbers, but it kept poking at me, tugging at me, and I felt like I was playing games to appease a number.
I understand your perspective and I think it’s a natural response to playing the same game for so long. I haven’t quit the game because I still enjoy learning heroes I haven’t played before but I think one of the big issues that’s really unsolvable about this game is that it’s sweaty no matter what game mode you’re in. Whether you’re playing unranked or competitive it all feels the same and whenever you’re doing something difficult/competitive nearly 100% of the time it’s bound to feel like a chore. The only thing that really fixes it is to (1) stop caring about rank/stats or (2) just take a break from the game or have a backup game that’s relaxing to you
Thank you for your thoughts :D I absolutely agree that the game is sweaty no matter the gamemode, I started noticing it when playing qp with my friends. I'm glad you're still enjoying and learning the game tho :) I definitely think I tried both of the "fixes" you provided, but it only really solidified me to just quit unfortunately :/
This is me on so many levels. I was never all that good at OW but I loved the first game. My parents bought me the game of the year addition for Christmas and I played the hell out of it for at least a year, becoming a Hanzo main that people actually thought was good and competent at my job. I fell out of love for OW after a while and took an extended break from it. When I decided to come back out of nostalgia, I found out that OW 1 was gone. It was taken down and replaced by OW 2. Ever since then I've been extremely on and off with the game. I'll reinstall it for a few months, play on and off, but then decide that actually I don't like OW 2 and uninstall it again. It doesn't feel the same, it doesn't feel fun. It feels like microtransaction hell, it feels like a pointless grind, it feels empty
I'm the kind of player that gets the most out of a game when I play with my friends so when I reinstalled ow for my friends I thought it would make the game feel better. It definitely beats playing alone but I still feel so unmoved whether we win or lose and I too realized that even my friends couldn't magically fix the game for me. I've experienced this same thing with league of legends and I've just concluded that I must have "fallen out of love" with these games. There's something magical about getting into a game and wanting to learn everything about it but these online multiplayers inevitably change for better or worse. Now I kinda just play occasionally when someone asks me to hop on so we can have something that everyone can play and I think that's as good as it gets. Just a game to have in the background.
Ugh, I totally get your experience all too well. It always sucks when a multiplayer game "falls off," and not even friends can help bring it back up. I hope there's other games you can find with your friends to have fun and play with :D
I can genuinely agree with this honestly. I am currently in my quitting era and I've been on this game since day 1 of its release and it doesn't feel the same anymore. For me, 5v5 and 6v6, stats or none of the main game stuff mattered. What really took my toll was the amount of times I had to hear the constant FOMO riding of "This game is back again" and "We're so back" stuff. We lost PvE (sure. we cant have nice things) The Patch Notes weren't lining up (Some characters kept getting a weird tun up or toned down when not needed) Characters needed a constant fix or change in kit to be well suited for the 5v5 (which could have been done whilst the game was in development) Casual vs Competitive players would never meet eye to eye and it was always such a toxic battlefield that neither can agree on Its somewhat upsetting when people can't just play to have fun anymore and I feel like this comes in the form of free to play accessibility and the lack of open play between all platforms (switch being a barren wasteland, Xbox actually being somewhat decent to play and Playstation community is toxic as all hell and im from PS). Its amazing that its accessible by default but now EVERYONE just magically gains a "I know everything because I won a single game" just urks me. If I paid some good cash for the game, I wouldn't have to worry about a Reinhardts hammer being $53 CAD. Its FP2 so the additional Microtransactions can happen and its just so rough. At the end of the day, everyone experience is their own. Mine is slowly diluting to where I am better off playing a different game than Overwatch 2
When the game swapped to 5v5, I literally stopped playing doom especially to see how boring tank is since it’s rock, paper scissors. When I was playing the game, I was a projectile/flex dps player who played genji the most but the devs just hate the characters I play :(
It always sucks when the dev team takes the fun out of characters people love playing :( Counter swapping is so boring, but UNFORTUNATELY necessary, and it's just no fun.
I was basically a Sym 2.0 one trick for this game, nothing was ever as good as she was. Popping a personal shield in front of a High Noon and throwing some turrents down at his feet while the animation finishes, surviving because the shield takes the hit, and then winning out over a duel someone used their literal ultimate on with just your basic kit? You can't make drugs that hit better than that. I miss the character gameplay I fell in love with, but the newer iterations of Sym are so different it's night and day. Nothing is the same. I never even bothered trying OW2 because there just wasn't any point.
Your reasoning is totally understandable. In the transition to OW2 I too felt the difference, and the game felt like is more soulless. I still play the game to this day (because I still like it), but not as much as I used to do.
At this point I am starting to regret having received Overwatch 1 as a gift and addicted to it in late 2018... (2.5k hrs time) and had too much hope in OW2... I am going to cry
No I totally get that :(( I spent so much time and energy into this game when I was addicted, but sometimes we just have to move on and reminisce about the good ol days 😔
2016 OW1 beta here. I'm a point where I just hop on Overwatch every now and then. I've been playing my other three games that I also play often: HSR, Genshin, and Destiny. At the time of this comment, community creator patch is still going on. And I went back to playing OW and having so much fun, after not playing it for a month. It felt refreshing and gameplay loop felt so much fun for me. Too bad it's limited time. At this point, there's just nothing for me to look forward to. - 5v5 gameplay loop is more stale compared to 6v6. 6v6 should just come back. It's clear 5v5 cannot survive long term - On top with 5v5 issues, tanks feels even more worst to play. This also leads to supports and dps not feeling satisfied to play. - 90% of OW2 cosmetics are expensive and locked behind paywalls where before we could earn them by playing - More skin recolors but still locked behind paywall - no level borders - no new lores onto Overwatch universe and heroes - PvE, the biggest reason of OW2 exists has been officially scrapped - No lfg feature - Workshop being neglected more Overwatch 2 is your typical free-to-play live-service game that is design to milk as much money as possible. The only update I see comes from the monetization which that kills the rewards by just playing the game. And it sucks because Overwatch 1 was not like that. There were more care being put onto the Ip and players were the main focus. I would rather have lootboxes to keep earning rather than what we have in Overwatch 2. But apologies for the long comment, just want to get these thoughts/experiences towards Overwatch. I have tried other games like Apex and Valorant but it still feels like there are no games like Overwatch. There's no Tracer, no Kiriko, Doomfist, no Winston, all of my favorite heroes I play. The universe in Overwatch is beautiful as well.
Omg hsr and genshin my beloved!! Hehe, you're more than welcome to add me if you'd like :) But don't apologize for the long comment, I appreciate you being open with your thoughts and experiences towards the game, and I agree with every point you've made. I've noticed ow2 definitely felt more catered to bringing in as much money as possible, while also disregarding the f2p experience in a way :/ I miss my lootboxes 😔 Overwatch is definitely the most unique and fun game I've ever played, but who knows if it'll ever be repaired.
@@feenixsarchive Definitely agree with the unique and fun game part. We were all there at the golden age. Community was thriving and positive. People talked about the game, Overwatch universe and its lores, the heroes, getting better at the game, esports scene, and even animated cinematics that felt special back then. It was a really good time to be part of an Overwatch community that time. Overwatch has that special magic that brings all the communities together. It's sad that we won't able to see what Overwatch could've been. But who knows? Maybe they'll finally realize the old golden era of Overwatch back then. Sometimes it's okay to go back to the drawing board and see what was done well. In the meantime, I'm excited for Natlan in Genshin. I'll be sure to add you soon!
@@ninthfriend3347 Ugh take me back to the golden era of overwatch fr, those were the days. I hope they'll look back and try their best to revive or fix the game, but who knows how well they'll do it or if they'll even care enough to try to bring it back to its former glory. We can only wait and see. Hehe, I added you! I am excited to see Natlan too :D
i have the same feelings as u when i quit something that i could rationalize as why i dont like ow anymore was 1. 5v5 feels like team deathmatch, i didnt like that mode in ow1 and only played qp and ranked. I liked the teamwork and coordination part of the game and 5v5 has taken that away little by little 2. role passives, basically taking player agency away and giving it to the game. This makes it quite frustrating when it comes to decision making, feels like there are 10 wrong decisions and 1 right one. It's ultimately about who you play not how you play. This format and passives is slowly killing hero identities.. That's mostly why it's boring to me now.. hopefully one day we will get 6v6 back with no passives as a game mode in the future
Comparing 5v5 to a team deathmatch is actually so accurate omg. It feels more catered to individual performance rather than team play, which was the main reason ow was so fun. Thank you for your comment :D
the way i’ve seen like 5 different people in the comments saying their journey started & ended w the release of ow2 💀 that’s….not a good thing lmfao rip
one day i met this mercy player than said she was top 10 for a couple season because of this guy she met and dated but then he left her for someone else (typical mercy kitten experience :/ ) and she dropped to like diamond or masters (i was boosting an acc when i met her so idr what elo it was). she was telling me how her mental dropped like a rock bc she used to take this game so seriously and equated her real life value to her rank on top of how players just are towards women and mercy players. im more or less known throughout the cosmos as the most toxic brig player (mostly just bc i wont let people slur me) but that shit had me feeling TERRIBLE for her. its so sad to hear that youre also a mercy player who has quit overwatch because to me mercy players ARE overwatch. i hope you guys both find a new passion either in or outside of overwatch.
NAUR i feel just as bad for her now hearing how her mental dropped bc of her rank :(( I have definitely felt that myself bc I always used to beat myself up over how I played "bad" in the games I played (no matter if they were win or loss), and it leaked into my mental irl which was not great. I wish her the best wherever she is! I do highly appreciate your words and support tho they mean a lot
I miss the attention to skins, the events, events lasting a month instead of a week or day, the animations, heroes coming out more slowly, torb and sym not being reworked every 2 years or so, the tons of alterations on supports role. Like there was a consistency to the game and back with Jeff they cared about having a good fun experience. I couldn't care about some mythic skin with 5 ugly skins for 40 bucks and other 20 dollar skins every single week! 2017-2018 overwatch was amazing...everyone I know started quitting then.
Games are fun the first few years when changes arent that bad but now i logged on after 4 years and i dont think its even the same game anymore. it was fun back in 2017-18 when they removed most of the broken abilites and 2-2-2 was meta.
Glad I'm not the only one. I picked up OW1 in Summer 2019 and loved it. I was excited to play every day, I loved grinding comp and doing everything I could to improve my gameplay. Even when I went on loss streaks and dealt with toxic teammates, I still wanted to play. When lockdown hit, I joined a grassroots league and played even more, getting up at 8AM to practice with my team every day for hours, running scrims throughout the weeks. We swept our division 29-1, I still think fondly of a ridiculous strat we pulled off on King's Row during an official match. I have 1400 hours. Now it only takes a few matches of qp to take the wind out of my sails, even when playing with friends. I only really play OW a few times over the course of a couple weeks and then I drop it again for a few months. It's just not really fun anymore and I'm not sure why. I wish I still loved this game.
I felt you there :((( Ugh, those scrims must've been so much fun too from what I can tell. The competitive drive just went poof in ow2 and it's just not as fun anymore, which really really sucks to this day. I miss the game I fell in love with.
I recognize so many of my feelings in yours. I used to love Overwatch. It was special. Overwatch 2 basically ripped out a lot of what made the original special and well, you said it perfectly; it’s just not the same anymore. There’s a lot of conversations about a potential 6v6 return and I do think that’s a big step in the right direction. OW2 was a mistake in pretty much every sense and that’s what both angers and saddens me so very much. More than I can put into words. I’ve felt so robbed for years.
As someone that has played ow since the beginning climbing my way to mid gm having fun for many years I knew that ow was gonna go downhill the moment they announced ow2, the game had its issues before this, but atleast i always had fun. Same as you, i realise anytime i play ow2 I am just coping, the game is gone, so is the passion. I only play dm nowdays, but I will probably quit that now too.
It's always so nice seeing people resonate with how my passion faded away from the game, especially once it switched it ow2. Sigh, it's really such a shame how much they messed it up
Started playing in 2020 so during the Double Shield meta - had more fun than i ever did in OW2. Tanks died, DPS were impactful, supports weren't power crept into the void (as much as they are now). Still play the game pretty regularly even though i can't help but keep the memories of a superior experience in the back of my head the whole time :^)
As someone who has been playing so long I have the pre-order widow skin from 1, I understand everything without you having to say anything. Even the part about mercy being comfy because of not having to aim lmao. I don't play anymore either I'm just watching them try to put out the fire (been a rein mein since season 2 of OG so I felt the pain especially hard). Also did not expect ff8 music when I clicked on the video.
Haha I've def still been watching on the sidelines to see what they're doing with the game, and it's still making me shake my head LOL man I miss my rein mains 😔 they were the most based players but they started disappearing after ow2. LMAO ff8 music is so good I had to
@@feenixsarchive Honestly I haven't played for like a year but I've kept it installed, now that Aron said they're gonna talk about 6v6 next directors blog I'm just waiting for that and will hit the uninstall button forever depending on how it goes. Also mercy mains used to be the voice in reason in overwatch, in 2 they all left and now we just get toxic mercies sob. Obligatory FITHOS. LUSEC. WECOS. VINOSEC.
Yeah, I've caught wind of 6v6 making it's ultimate return! Depending on how people react to it once it does come back I might try the game again? I highly doubt it, but I'll never know lol. Omg I've heard of more toxic mercy players making their appearance and I'm just 😭 where did all the nice ones go I swear.
I can do absolutely relate, to just about everything. I played tank since s9 ow1, I wanted to get better, see improvement, and see numbers go up. I remember starting as a silver player and just wanting to get to plat, my friends and I would grind for many sleepless nights to make it happen. When I hit low masters at the end of overwatches life cycle, I felt genuinely good about my progress, but then I learned of my tank buddies never being able to play with me again. The game immediately felt less fun because I essentially lost a friend with one change to the game. And it’s not like we can just play ow1. I remember starting groups to play in as many games with as many people with mics as I could, there are no more players with mics. No more community, no more fire for getting better among the broader majority of players. I used to pick this game up here and there, but I can’t remember the last time I played anymore. I miss my favorite game
I absolutely felt you there. The passion of grinding to get better disappeared. It felt like the community no longer had the passion either as no one wanted to use their mics. It just felt dry. Soulless. I miss my favorite game too :(
watching this video after playing the game since launch makes me sad how much from grace this game fell off for a lot of people. not only that but i remember buying this game with my own allowance and was so excited and to see it just be this pile of dumpster doodoo makes me sad. i now switched to tf2 and never looked back ever since the bot crisis got fixed. I hope overwatch manages to fix itself but with these current changes they want to do to tanks I will leave my roses to it's grave and only remember the good times.
I quitted three days ago, I was so messed up because of this game. I hated some of its mechanics but I was still too compelled. I started feeling bored of everything and kinda sad and numb, also very very tired. I noticed my thoughts were leading towards the same thought over and over again, and it was overwatch. I am still very intoxicated and basically a junkie for this very awful game... let's be honest. So yeah I just wish to never touch this game ever again. For good.
I know the feeling. Overwatch was the first FPS that have a strong identity, so many heroes to choose, all very different between them, and some have a strong sinergy between them like rein/zarya, dva/winston, tracer/genji or lucio/ana. I remember rhe first time I play Ana, it feel so good, the way she plays with her pros and cons, how fun she was too play, but the particular thing was the interactions with other characters and that make her unique for me. Of course the gameplay was awesome, for the sinergy. But when 5v5 came, ana wasnt the same. The game lost his identity, and every new character that was release was more broken than before. I also play zen, bap, Moira, lucio and some brig. But I love the game cause of Ana, and there comes Kiriko and Illari. Was the point of a good sleep or nade, when with a simple CD all is cancelled, or having a turret that heals your team for you while you can be just shooting. I miss 6v6, and I miss the old Overwatch. But its like you said "maybe its time to move on" P.D: I love the music of final fantasy for the video
i used to be in the scrim scene in ow1 and i deeply relate to your experiences. There used to be legions of players that wanted to get better and spent thousands of hours of our lives pursuing that goal in scrims and tournaments across the globe. Blizzard killed the passion of thousands of players with ow2, including myself. The only thing left to do now is to just move on. At least until Blizzard starts to love and care for this game the same way we used to
I started my experience purchasing the deluxe edition of a 6v6 double shield game in 2017, I later also bought the PvE expansion for the “new game”, and I even became a Hanzo main in early OW2 by putting an insane amount of time practicing some high risk high reward flick ~predict headshots. I feel so fucking betrayed.
NAUR the PvE expansion was actually such a let down, and they discontinued it, it's actually such a disappointment to all who bought it. We all feel betrayed by the game in a way.
This sounds a lot like my experience. I was originally an Xbox player who started playing to hide from IRL problems. I met a bunch of friends online and really enjoyed grinding and playing with them as we all learned and a handful of us reaching top 500 (me on tank). I remember those eager days to get home and log on where we would all chat in discord all day waiting for the next bunch of games we would play, we even participated in console tournaments. Eventually during the content lull a few people left the game and it was just me and my tank duo with an occasional support friend mixed in. I eventually made the switch to PC in the last few seasons of OW1 and peaked around diamond. Fast forward to OW2 as a former top 500 tank main, I do not enjoy the tank experience. I used to have a 2nd tank to share the 6 CC’s I had coming my way while now I'm alone to take all 5, every loss no matter what I do I get spammed “tank diff” and I occasionally get suspended for throwing despite typically holding a 55% or better win rate. I just don't enjoy the game anymore, I am expected to do the job of 2 without any help, I get all the blame and most importantly I am no longer able to duo up with my friend where we could control the game place and in comms by having everyone coalesce behind the tanks plans. Now it feels like with how the meta forces team composition and with counterpicking as bad as it is the game has devolved into a 4v4 team Deathmatch with the tanks sitting off to the side in a CC chain for the DPS to charge ultimates on. I am finding myself playing less and less and I just don't see it ever getting better since they basically took a very unique game and highjacked the franchise to make a shop tailored to the lowest players who will mindlessly spend money on skins and will ditch the game at the drop of a hat for a new fad so an ow1 OG tank main like me can screw off since I'm clearly not wanted or appreciated anymore. It's kind of sad with the history of the game and what this game meant to me helping me navigate my trauma years ago. Sorry for the long post
No, don't apologize for the long post. I love reading everyone's stories so I appreciate you being open about your experience :) Ow for me definitely was an escape from whatever school stress I was feeling, so I definitely understand escaping IRL for a bit to have some fun. I absolutely felt you on how ow2 feels like team deathmatch. It's the most accurate description I feel and tanks feel like such an important role, but they carry so much responsibility and burden in a team fight. They're expected to make space and get kills, but also peel for the backline at the same time and also not get absolutely MELTED within a second. It's a hard role for just one person which is why I highly believe the tank role NEEDS the other tank back in a 6v6 setting. We'll see how they handle on bringing 6v6 back :)
@@feenixsarchive thank you for the words of support, curious if I ever ran into you back in the Xbox days, the GM/Top 500 circle wasn't too huge :) Anyway I hope you stay away and don't get tempted, idk why I keep logging in when I know what awaits me, I guess I just can't fully let go so I run back to the abuse.
True! I wonder if we ever did meet in a game long long ago haha. I hope you break out of the cycle of logging back in tho, the pain and suffering must come to a stop at some point LMAOOO but gl in your games 🫡
I'm also an OG player and I've felt the same way. I recently came to the sad realization that Overwatch 2 just wasn't made for me, or OW1 players. It feels like it has been optimised to gather more "classic FPS" players from other games, with a more kill-based fast paced gameplay. What made me fall in love with OW1 is that you could pick nearly any hero and feel like you were contributing something to the team. For example when playing tank, if you weren't an aggressive player you could still focus on protecting your team and be helpful in doing so. The game used to valorize different playstyles but now in OW2, the main goal is just to wipe the enemy team as fast as possible. Tank is miserable and supports are put in a weird position where they have to put their entire healing on the tank or else the tank falls but also they need to help secure kills as well by doing damage. If you don't counterplay you're also pretty much cooked. Mercy is still to this day my second most played hero but I literally haven't played her since OW2 came out because the burst damage is just too strong. I still play for the dailies and weeklies because of FOMO but most of the time logging in feels like a chore, as soon as events and/or battlepasses are done I usually stop playing until the next update. That's gonna sound insane but after years of hating League of Legends I finally gave this game a good shot and I'm actually enjoying it so much. The servers are so much more stable, I don't get sent to foreign servers with 300ms, the updates are frequent and grinding games even outside of an event still feels rewarding. If you don't pay for the battlepass, grinding OW2 gives you nearly jack diggidy squat (I know they've been improving that over time but still). I've also made the decision to put more time into more solo story-driven FPS games instead. With all of that said I hope you find your next favorite game and I hope it helps you move on from OW.
You're so right, ow2 definitely tried to follow other mainstream fps games, and I think that's also what ruined it. It didn't feel unique anymore :/ YES feeling like you could actually contribute something in ow1 is SO REAL, but in ow2 it's just... Not the case. I totally felt you with logging on feeling like a chore. It definitely didn't help bc ow2 didn't feel like you had much to grind for other than the bp 😔 I heard some of my other ow friends trying league and enjoying it as well, and I'm glad you ended up liking it too! Enjoy what game makes you happy (altho I'll poke fun at you jokingly in the distance LMAOOO)! And thank you 🫶
The reasons are simple. The game has changed and we grew older. Blizzard has done an incredibly poor job at managing this game and the love the devs used to have died quite a bit, similarly to the love players have for the game in turn
ALSO sorry if like my mic picked up on some gross mouth sounds (idk how else to describe it) and if it was unevenly sound balanced I tried ;-;
But I hope you all enjoy nonetheless and lmk your own throughts/experiences towards overwatch!
I will probably still make some ow content from whatever ANCIENT left over clips I have!
those sounds are acually the best part of the video
LMAOOO i mean if you say so
So many of my friends have quit the game just has so many balance problems and they really need to bring back 6v6. I resorted to playing junkrat just for fun now.
LOLL more power to you!
honestly id say the older the clips the better!
It sucks seeing so many small creators come out of nowhere all explaining their disappointments with the game
Really shows the downfall of the game I think 😔
Big creators been showing their frustrations with the game for a while. 6v6 against 5v5 is making them go to war
its actually really cool and i love it, its about damn time.
@@BTRshow Its not realy a war the reality is 5v5 isnt working and the devs cant fix it and never will but becouse its Blizzard/Team4 they refuse to every admit if anything they do didnt woke so we keep just sitting in that strang limbo were everybody knows the only realy option is 6v6 but also we know its not gone happen
@xythiera7255 there is a war, between pro 5v5 and pro 6v6 people. The amount of popular videos of sides going after eachother is pretty high. I agree with you, 5v5 isn't working. Like you said tho, Team 4 will never fix it or really properly balance it. Overwatch 2 will never be in a good state with team 4. That's something we all just have to accept.
OW1 was such a unique experience, you could play one character in OW1 for years and never get bored cause there were so many variables and situations to get into . Even with characters that have a simple kit, it allowed people who didn’t even have an fps background to express their skill in more ways than just raw aiming . OW2 killed this concept in attempt to make the game easy for everyone .
THIS FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK ‼️‼️
I never got the chance to play overwatch 1, I was so excited to finally get to play 2. I think Overwatch 2 is one of the worst multiplayer games i've ever played.
Omg overwatch 1 was a game like no other imho. Was one of the most fun multiplayers I've played. Too bad it's gone now :( ow2 is pretty dookie LOL
@@feenixsarchivecan't go a match without getting counter picked 😅
literally so real
Its not the worst just so much thrown away potantial
@@xythiera7255 For me, it's been the worst. It feels utterly restrictive and just lacks any fun.
I think the mainstream reason people don't like OW2 is the fact that 6v6 is gone. Because once you lose your one tank, you WILL be at a serious disadvantage and it's just not fun at all.
Literally this. Tanks are the pillars of the entire team fight and that's why counter picking became the main strat of the game 😔
@@feenixsarchive and tanks SUCK TO PLAY (im a tank player).. Tank is like the quarerback but tanks cant finish it, they are in the role to pop off, but are useless lol
hope its understandable xd
Hehe I get you crystal clear. I applaud all tank players for doing what they do 🫡
I remember before they nerfed the supports and healing the game would basically be a skylander boss. You had to kill both the supports and then work around the dps to get to the tank and as soon as he’s dead you’ve just won
when they removed one tank from the pool it was fun playing as dps but as a flex player, playing as tank now is miserable........ This has been an ongoing issue and blizzard is SOMEWHAT taking into account of it now.
I feel ya on the love and loss of OW1. OW2 felt...off for some reason. It wasn't until recently I put the pieces together. Without that 2nd tank, every roll has to be a "shooter" more. I was a support main and it was nice being able to contribute to the match without having to aim well like you said. You can still get that feeling a little with Mercy in OW2, but everything else feels more FPS driven which I'm terrible at. OW1 was nice because you could still contribute to your team without being a McShooty master.
YES YOU'RE SO RIGHT!! I also noticed the lack of a second tank made the game very much dps focused, hence why supports became so strong and able to get more picks I think.
THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THIS
Omg I 100% don't blame you for that either
OOH another point i was thinking (as a tank player) is that they have to be way more overtuned even though their design hasn’t changed making tanking always miserable
The constant checking stats is so relatable, I used to be so confident on playing my favourite hero ball but now with one tank it’s hard to enjoy with all the high demands of what people expect from your one tank player. Also when I heard that PvE was being cancelled after waiting all that time in Overwatch 1, it was so painful because I was so invested in the lore that made me want to learn more about the story. Tysm for sharing your opinion
Thank you for sharing your experience! :) Ugh, when they completely cancelled PvE, I felt super bad for anyone who was even remotely interested in the lore and anyone who bought the missions from a while ago. It's such a shame they literally lied to us.
I think its because tank players are the glue to keep the team together. You could have a good tank but if the enemy team has a great tank your tank will seem like a bronze
I miss borders, I miss end cards, I miss seeing my rank, I miss 6v6, I miss telling the homies I only got 2 more arcade wins for a lootbox. The very same homies I played with for 5 years in OW1 quit 1 by 1 in OW2. I hate the fact they removed borders, end cards, rank icon, 1 tank and the FOMO shop on rotation to get a skin with real life currency. We still don't even have weapon inspects when they showed it off all the way back in OW2 trailers. They killed the promised PVE which was the biggest selling point for OW2. Then you got thanos walking around as the solo tank snapping his fingers, and the worst part is they either do not die or die instantly, miserable. OW2 is a failure.
This really hit oml. BUT THE WEAPON INSPECTS YOU'RE SO RIGHT! WHERE THEY AT FR. Ow2 is such a letdown.
@@feenixsarchive They're being used for Mythic weapon skin inspects or as Blizz calls it, "Weapon Flourish".
No way it's gonna be exclusive to the mythic weapon skins. Bruh smh. Come on blizzard
@@feenixsarchive Well as long as the community can come together and outright stop purchasing the dumb overpriced bullshit from the shop, then maybe we will be able to get it available to every hero. But I doubt that will ever happen. This community has too much apathy (like myself) or a few too many stupid whales that don't care about the state of the game and will buy everything in the shop and will ruin this game's future in the long run. It took us what like 9 seasons to finally release premium currency in the battle pass... but not enough for the next one. And yet no one will call it out.
Sorry for the little rant. I just wish I could have my old overwatch that I spent 3500 hours on.
@@acorn1265 Why tf are they tied to mythic weapons? The trailer literally showed it on default skins implying you could use it for any skin.
The pure greed is astounding.
I relate so strongly to your experience. The exception being that I only started with Overwatch 2.
I genuinely don't know how the developers think that this game is even remotely okay. I have nearly 1,000 hours in Overwatch 2 and a good chunk of that is me just gritting my teeth and hoping that it gets better.
The game I loved died a few seasons into It's lifetime, and even then it is clearly worse than the original. Even I can see that.
Anyways, my life has dramatically improved since I stopped playing. I still think about the game nearly every day, and I'm genuinely sad that I can't play anymore.
But Overwatch 2 is literally unhealthy for itself and it's players.
No thisssssss. I think I'm roughly closer to 2k hours total from ow1 and 2??? I can't remember, but man it's definitely been going downhill ever since ow2's release and I wish it didn't go in that direction :(( I totally felt you on trying to cling on to some hope for the game lol, I stayed a lot longer than I thought I would've, and quitting was kind of difficult.
I'm glad you took the step away from the game and I hope you find another game that's more rewarding and healthier in a sense :D
Papa Jeff leaving Blizzard was a very-very bad sign for overwatch's soul, making bad solo tank experience in 5v5 format and cancelling PvE entirely proves it.
Honestly I think the reason we feel this way is not having 6v6. You just have to counterpick everything or you can’t play, so you end up playing characters you don’t want to, leading to not having fun.
there is less counterpick required than ever what are u on about
Are you bronze rank or something? This is counter picks the game. And if you don't counter pick your team will yell at you all game because its so vital. @geert574
It sucks huge when a passion dies. The thing with games is like it's usually some change that comes along and it feels like we were forced away.
THISSSSS :( It's such a sucky thing, but I feel like it comes naturally too, but it still sucks LOL
@@feenixsarchive But this wasn't natural. This was uniquelely awful. The transition to OW2 sure redefined the sequel into being Overwatch 0.75. More cut content than we got. But you're right about it happening naturally 100%
Oh absolutely, you're right about that too
@@feenixsarchive and the format change has ruined 1/3 of the game for many of us. I miss dual tanking. I think the DPS passive should be changed to more damage to shields and we should go back to 6v6
Man, they changed so much from the original game, going back to its roots is def the way to go atp LOL
Crazy how good my intuition can be when I predicted the game was gonna go downhill after Jeff left
Jeff was the reason behind 5v5 just fyi. He first proposed the 1-3-2 format that everyone hated and also was behind the character design for Orisa and the other one dimensional characters. Jeff seems like a nice guy for sure but I don’t think he knew how to solve the puzzle of the game they created.
I knew the game was doomed as soon as the merge with activision happened
Do you mean when Microsoft bought them? Activion merged with Blizzard in 2008 so 8 years before Overwatch. If you mean the microsoft merge that also makes no sense as Overwatch 2 was very far in development by the Microsoft got involved. @huckmart2017
its was already going downhill way before jeff left
hey i hope you're well. i must say,this is a very good video. overwach for me is love and hate. im currently trapped in high silver/low gold because whenever i win a game i end up either getting worse teamates or i get rolled by the other team. ive put hundreds of hours into the game and ive gotten better,but the matchmaking system for lower ranks just doesnt help in any way.
i look forward to seeing more of your videos.
Thank you for your comment, it means a lot ^^ Man, even in higher ranks I'm ngl the matchmaking is just as bad. There's always bound to be people on your team who just can't beat the enemy team so it's mainly a team diff all around. It definitely felt like to me, no matter if I'm getting better, if their team is just better than there's only so much you can do tbh.
Matchmaking aint better higher up though😭 and on console any game above plat was just Xim Widows😭
ONG THIS
I hate hate hate how much I can relate to this, Overwatch is so close and dear to me...yet has been going trough the same motions as you. Thank you for being vocal about such a human thing, I shed a few tears bahaha
aww :(( my heart goes out to you! I'm glad you could relate to it ^^
I remember how fun the game used to feel like when I first started playing it, grouping up with my friends and pulling all nighters, now I see myself hoping for that glimpse of the past and logging on every day just praying that maybe, just maybe, that fun that I used to have would return somehow.
But deep down I know that is over, I'm using nostalgia to cope with the hate and disgust that I feel every time that I open this game.
This hit so close to home oml
I Didnt even quit, just one day i stopped playing and didnt launch the game again, its been 6 months now, wild
I hate OW but my timeline of getting there happened so much faster. I started playing OW2 around April 2023 after Lifeweaver was released. I had always been interested in the game back during its release but I heard how toxic it was and was scared to try but with OW2 being free to play and PVE being in the works I was excited to try.
And then not only did I find out that PVE wasn't happening but Lifeweaver was considered a throw pick for awhile and even today isn't considered that great competitively and people still constantly make videos about how bad he is. He's the hero I joined the game to play because I liked his kit so much. I have hundreds of hours on him, more than any other character and yet just bc of how he's valued and his kit I can't even feel comfortable playing competitive without being told Im throwing.
As such I ended up playing characters I was unfamiliar with in the beginning of my competitive journey and as a result I fell in rank really hard. I slowly climbed back up but I was so discouraged I just gave up comp immediately. What's the point of playing something if I cant even play the characters I like?
I have long since muted all chats aside from group & whispers and I exclusively play QP now. But when a game feels like this what's the point of playing it? I've resolved to play through the Battle Pass on each new season but other than that I don't play. I've gone back to my WoW roots and tbh it's so liberating. Dying in WoW for the first few times actually gave me anxiety and I realized it was bc of OW. Mount farming and daily quests are so much more relaxing lol
Omg I've seen some amazing lifeweavers in my time playing, but they def aren't very common bc he just gets outclassed by all the other supports. I'm sorry you felt discouraged from playing someone you really enjoyed in a competitive setting
Ngl u soft fr if u can't handle a lil trash talk but ye after ow1 they started lowering the skill cealing on all characters I play genji when ow1 launched and they removed bufferdashing they added the ability to cancel deflect when u can already do that by wall climbing they removed infinite wall climb and ledge super dash they do all this just to make the character ez to play making it more accessible
Bruh the auto moderation are so bad that if you speak anything AND someone doesnt like you
You could get muted or banned
LW seems like a weak pick BUT if you got crazy reinhardt and managed to save his ass everytime
You get my honor my friend. Not even mercy could save reinhardt
@@nin_kirsuji5284 OW players thinking they know trash talk (cries and reports after 1 n word)
my brother introduced me to the overwatch beta back when i was only 8 years old. i practically grew up playing overwatch and it sucks so much seeing a game you loved so dearly fall so far from what it once was.
Yeah 😞
As a Reinhardt main. I sympathize. I stopped playing a while back and felt exactly the same way. I was a main tank in OW1 and took pride in it, I loved the intense teamplay... Now the identity I enjoy roleplaying in OW has been gutted of its soul.
Remembering Overwatch 1 feels like I’m remembering a close friend that I’ll never see again. I made so many incredible memories and it was genuinely the most fun game I have ever played. Of course, it had a it’s fair share of issues, but the community and fluid nature of the game encouraged teamwork and communication in a way I had never experienced before and have failed to find since. Elements of this still exist in Overwatch 2, but it just feels like a neutered version of the game I fell in love with.
In retrospect, I don’t think the people making decisions about the game really ever understood what made it so great. It really bums me out that the game I fell in love with only exists alongside the memories I made in it - in the past and in my memory.
Thissssss hit home. Nothing else was quite like ow1, and it's a shame it's all a part of our memories now. I cope now that the dev team will try to restore it to its former glory but I highly doubt it.
Me and my son would duo tank in comp everyday after school no clue why they made these decisions for the game.
OW used to be so good. I dont hate Overwatch 2, I just hate playing it if that makes sense. I had to uninstall it or get stuck in the cycle because its addicting but miserable to play.
I get you 1000000% it's how I felt for a while too during most periods of ow2
As a tf2 player you have my condolences. 💐
First time seing a tf2 player not being an asshole about it, thats rare
Im now wondering which TF2...
Im guessing Team Fortress 2, but there's always the possibility of being Titanfall 2 too, thanks EA for murdering it :(
@@stitchperlo9639 Hey, generalizing ain't nice.
@@blackoutedmind Ahahaha some times I wonder too but we know the answer every time
Once OW1 got deleted so did my passion for it. I relate so much to this video and thank you for sharing your experience.
Thank you for watching! ^^ I'm happy to hear you related to my experience as well :)
Were at the same situation we were at the end of OW1 with the difference that pretty much every character in the game now feels worse and the gameplay just feels like deathmatch, after quitting the game you feel so much better
I don’t really know any other shooting games like overwatch so that’s really the only reason I keep playing.
I really felt you there. It's why it was my main game for so long. But I tried apex and valorant which are kinda similar to ow but not really. I'd suggest those ^^
Paladins I think is pretty similar from what I've seen and heard it looks quite fun too
@@IOwnNarcot1czno paladins looks so weird and clunky
Marvel rivals seems similar
Play tf2
I dunno, I just really miss how scrappy old Overwatch was compared to this. Where it felt like you actually entered a back and forth instead of a definite win or loss.
Old Overwatch characters were designed around having a high risk and high reward. Genji, Reaper, Winston, Tracer, you just commit to what you're doing by entering the fray and doing the best you can to sync up what enemies you fight.
But OW2 is catering to this very boring playstyle where characters get a very inordinate amount of leverage for the amount of engagement they need. Widow can one shot you from whole maps away. All ana has to do is sit in her backline and no one can touch her. They get rewarded for minimal interaction.
It's unfun to play WITH too.
Weaver waits around and opens himself up to flank. Ashe will tunnel vision opening themselves up to flank. I just want to engage. And if I decide to play the game, I'm at a net disadvantage cause the enemy has less to target.
And 5v5ers will say that 6v6 wasn't good and all of us have nostalgia and rose tinted glasses for ow1, the problem isn't nostalgia, the problem is the format that forces you to counterswap constantly, as Flats said, team 4 originally mentioned that they wanted to keep the option to main a character (because they knew there were a lot of otp's), then, when they weren't able to maintain that condition, they changed the argument that it was intended for players to switch characters.
Team 4 can't accept their errors, they will do whatever they could to simply not accept that they messed up, an example of this is when they ignored the community asking for 6v6 (subject that luckily seems that they are going to talk about sooner or later).
In conclussion, what made overwatch feel so unique was the strong and weak points of every character that in a symmetric format (6v6) each one could cover the weakness of the other, by removing a tank, now the game forces you to focus the weakness of the remaining one since they buffed them so hard that there's no other option, then with the new format a lot of other issues have occurred also, and the solution for blizz was to buff other roles in an infinite cycle of stubbornness against accepting that they did something wrong in the first place.
New players might like the game at it's current state (since the only thing you need to do is to know each character's counter and the skill level has dropped a lot (bigger hitboxes and hitscans having more angles caused by the missing tank)), but for ow1 veterans the game feels boring.
At this point if there was an option to play 6v6 even with double shields and longer queues, I'd gladly take that 100 times than playing a single match of counterwatch.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts :) I completely stand by everything you said. Team 4 being stubborn and not fixing their errors, counterwatch being unfun, the lowering of skill on basically every character, big sigh all around tbh
12:10 this is so so agreable, i really miss overwatch 1, sure lots of cc, shield etc but there was so many thing to learn, and overwatch was my comfort game and same goes to mercy, her movement overall was so smooth, i wished i had more time and chance to learn it better back then, and big part also the fact that every celebration there is skins you can get for free essentially if you have enough coin, now you have to play, it sucks.
everything pretty locked behind walls, "new game" but they started bringing back cass flashbang and trying to make rein shield more tankier, like you might as well open back overwatch 1, all they do is lie and lie to make you come back. stressing over stats especially with characters like ana and kiriko is so relatable, i was initially gonna reach gold.. was close in overwatch 1 but didnt happen, i dont know im kinda yapping sorry, just feel unnecessary to hype ow2 anymore, with everything they didnt do.. plus in ow1 you can play qp and actually have fun, where if you see now, its just too many sweat, toxicity at its max, you cant even have place to practice hero you want without getting dump with bucket of crap..
thank you for sharing your opinion and experience feenix, it made me happy to know you not forcing yourself to play this game anymore and do what you actually want
YES overwatch 1, even if I reached the highest rank, I still felt like I had room to improve and that was the best part. I wanted to get better and it seemed like I could continuously grow :D unlike ow2 it just felt like I wasn't able to grow "better" without playing the "meta" heroes.
OMG BRING BACK LOOTBOXES LIKE PLEASE. The game was "pay to win" at some point when you had to buy the bp to unlock the new broken hero that recently released too it was ugh. They messed up balancing and going back to ow1 is their only solution 💀 ow2 is just simply not as fun. Don't apologize for yapping, Im doing a lot of that already LMAOO
I appreciate you listening to me and sharing your experience as well
“Just one more sadge Overwatch video before bed” ;-;
I felt every word you said. OW had such a special place in a my heart and I would have so much fun. I just couldn’t, I tried but OW2 didn’t feel the same, I played it till January and then finally I decided to stop playing. I just hope they bring back OW or at least just bring 6v6.
I can relate to this video so much. It actually touched my heartstrings, because I like you find it so hard to let go. I've "quit" Overwatch several times through the years even with OW1 but something always brought me back. It's this thought that one day I might feel that excitement like I used to back in 2016 and fomo with the skins. A part of me is still holding out that 6v6 will return and that I'll be happy I invested my time and money if or when Overwatch returns to those glory days. I wanna play Mercy and Kiriko too, but feel like I'm at a disadvantage so often when I meet a Bap, Lucio or Ana. You know the game is in a bad place when you are "forced" to play heroes you don't want/like just to keep up with the rest of the players. As a support main what I always loved was feeling like I could lift my teammates, enable them to pop off. It just feels great when you get that perfect rez or ultimate and turn the tides of the team fight. I've always gravitated towards supports in games, and I think it's for this reason. The fact that you know they really appreciate having you in their team, that you got their back. When they fall, you are there to lift them back up.
Also thank you for the Chrono Cross music
Omg, I relate to you so much. There was a time, especially when I was taking longer breaks from ow (aka a couple days), what always brought me back was exactly the same reason as you! I was playing to find that same nostalgic experience back in ow1. BUT YES enabling your team and feeling like you had impact >>>>>> main reason why I play support. But yeah, getting "forced" to play the "meta" heroes was just :/
Awww 🥹 ofc! Chrono Cross music just hits different 😌
I love reading the comment sections on videos like this cuz it shows i'm not alone
Girl i feel you… you worded it extremely well… and you sharing your relationship with the game, being focused on numbers and all, was very insightful for me. A kind and warm thank you from this stranger to another ♥️ Thank you for sharing this🌺
My hope for 6v6 is the only reason i still play this game but i made the decision recently to just play a lot less. before it was everyday now its 3 times a week maybe
Oh what a day it would be if 6v6 returned tbh. More power to you for playing less tho :)
I came to terms with the fact that I will never be a high elo player. I don't know why, there is just something about this game that doesn't click with me. I also refuse to play every day, so that might be why. If being GM means wasting my life away, then I'm okay being gold forever and enjoying myself.
Such a compelling journey. This was beautiful and I support that break from the game. I love overwatch so much and I would step back if I felt the way you did about it. Thank you so much for sharing your experience. It was really interesting.
Your comment means a ton, thank you :D
I feel the same about this video! A really well done one ❤️
oh my god that kings row game brought me back… i miss it so much. it’s so miserable ive had to quit aswell.
now i love playing elden ring with a clear conscience - it’s fun but especially with coop
God I feel you there. I got elden ring yesterday so I'm trying to grind it myself too!
you thought you were addicted to Overwatch?? hahaha, just wait until ER clicks for you! now *thats* a game worth playing!!
gotta say tho, i felt that sentiment of yours where you said you lost all passion to play, let alone to improve. the stress of rank, the stats, dealing with toxicity and just general bullshit when life already has enough of that? yeah... it wasn’t fun, wasn’t worth it. it’s hard to find motivation when the game is unfun, unbalanced, counter-dependant, boring and unrewarding. none of my OG friends play anymore, and just the way it plays feels like an uncanny ghost of itself designed to waste my time and money (WHICH IT DID! we all paid for OW1 and they just straight up deleted our game like WTAF???)
…when i realised it would never be the same again, i tried to focus on having fun - until THAT feeling went away aswell, and i just could not find a genuine reason to play it at all after that. none. nothing. that shit is straight up mentally damaging now i swear lol
if you want to find passion for a game again, i promise you Elden Ring and other soulslikes are the experience you’re looking for. they are literal works of art. beautiful craftsmanship, a developer with a passion and an original team with a vision?!? never has a game made me feel like that. i really could go on forever but i shouldnt spoil. you’ll know what i mean when it hits you ;D
anyway, thanks for reading my wall. loved the vid, and i wish you the best post OW-addiction!
just remember- dont give up, skeleton!
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hehe ER is def my first souls game and I'm going in blind but I'll persevere! It looks amazing already and I can't wait to go deeper into it to see the bliss that is elden ring.
I'm glad you were able to relate a lot to my concerns playing as well, it's honestly really nice T^T It does sucks when a game becomes unfun and not worth to play anymore. I appreciate your comment sm! :D
even watching your old OW1 gameplay makes me feel like the vibe is completely different, like the way the game looks more unique and how much more relaxed it was.
omg yes it felt so much more smoother too. it was really really nice, altho as a support it was definitely just as stressful LMAO
@@feenixsarchive I used to be a tank main but I quit because it's so miserable now LMAO ;-;
As a fellow GM/T500 player (though I played tank), same thing happened to me - took a break and realized I didn't even really like the game anymore and that break just got longer and longer until I barely cared. When I came back, I had no motivation to play or climb. It feels like a chore I'm forced to do. I don't know if it's the inferior ranked system, terrible reward incentives for play time or the gameplay loop changing, it's probably a combination of everything. I just stopped caring. Don't know how Blizzard managed to make me stop caring about a game I would play 8+ hours a day, but congrats, they managed to do it.
I reached a similar point last year. Now I'm just watching the train wreck from a safe distance.
Wholesome algorithm find. OW1 was definitely seemed less hectic, but thankfully i quit playing a few seasons before they shut the game down. All those hours of aiming gud didn't go to waste though, the skills transferred. Same for you, it improves your brain memory and made you good at managing probably stressful situations. Thanks for sharing this part of your life, definitely a lesson and something to remember
In the exact same boat, and while it makes me sad to see so many folks losing a game they love like I did, this sudden outpouring of smaller creators--regular people like me--has given me a sense of catharsis and reassurance that no it's not just me and that the game that I used to love did in fact change
The music made me feel so nostalgic about OW1, great choices ❤
I'm glad ^^
The number thing is so true. . I focused on my stats so much even tho i was fine. I slowly realized they truly didnt matter bc i could have all the kill, the best healing and still lose. I start to question my skill, my enjoyment and everything i tried working towards. The game made me feel hopeless and i start to notice my attitude changed aswell. From easy-goung, carefree and only wanting to have a good time to overly competitive, toxic and harsh on myself. Its so weird how i grew up on this game and how it affected me.
Ugh I felt every single word from this comment. I'm glad, and also sorry, you had to experience what I also had to go through
Your explanation was precise and clear thank you sm hun u did ur best for ur friends and ur teammates but maybe it’s ok to just move on honestly life is about change…even with pink mercy the underlying problems are still there u still won’t be happy after awhile.
Thank you for your words
I fully agree with you. I lost my passion for this game completely. I was an off-tank player in ow1 (only main tank I really played was rein) and I loved how tanks synergized with each other. Being the only tank has been absolutely miserable. I will not return unless 6v6 comes back and if doesn't... oh well 🤷♂️
Ugh off-tank was an off role I loved playing back then too, such a shame they removed the dual tank synergy fr :(
As someone who quit Overwatch right before Role queue was implemented, I miss the old Overwatch.
this videos sums up 50% of my experience with overwatch. sometimes its like this, and then other times im actually enjoying myself. I have a love hate relationship with this game
I started playing OW in late 2016 and all throughout 2017, 2018 and half of 2019 I played it religiously. I was utterly in love with this game and the characters. I mained tracer, widow, zen and dva. I quit in 2019 because I just wasn't allowed to play the game by the devs OR the people I matched with.
I stopped playing tracer (even before dmg stats were visible to everyone LOL) people still cried about me not doing anything for the team even though I was a nightmare for healers in the backline.
I also stopped playing widow because over time the double shield meta became more and more widespread and it got to a point where it seemed like even the most casual team in quickplay full of average joes was playing double shield and for a player like me who spent hundreds of hours practicing my aim, for some casual to just hold right click and immediately make all those hours irrelevant was infuriating. Sure, I could still get some highlights here and there and win a few rounds for my team, but it wasn't nearly as consistent as before at all.
Playing dva I was always the off tank and unless I was eating ults, I was once again told to switch. I'm 100000% sure these were all idiots that were echoing whatever their favorite youtuber or pro player said about dva. I was constantly putting so much pressure as dva and saving my teammates with def matrix but in the end I always felt unappreciated. It's funny that most of my encouragement from the game was actually negative and toxic in nature because it wasn't my teammates who told me I was playing good, it was the enemy team raging and seething over me. When I was doing good, my team almost never acknowledged it and just focused on the one genji that popped off twice during the match, or the pocket heals.
My will to play continued to dwindle over time even though my love for the game was still there. (muting players worked wonders at first for my mental heatlh, but then the man children on my team would start throwing because of it)
Over time me and the friend I used to play with were constantly uttering the words "let's play quickplay to get to play whoever we want" and when I noticed this is when I knew things had been wrong for a long while. Shortly after that, after a couple of "relapses" I quit and started playing monster hunter (which became my new passion) and I suddenly felt alive again. Because of this I knew I was never going back to overwatch.
When OW2 released I decided to give it a try. I thought "hey, maybe I can get to play widow now that there's only 1 tank" but oh man the game felt so off. I stuck with it for a week but I really wasn't enjoying my time with it despite getting to play widow for the first time in years. Since it's release... well... YOU know the rest of the story. Having the game I loved constantly push me away little by little by the devs themselves and the community was sad, and to come back for a week after OW2 only to see it be a shell of it's former self was even more sad. I'll always miss 2016 - 2018 overwatch :(
Ugh I've seen those experiences (from former teammates or my friends) of being told to switch off even though they're leaving an impact on the enemy team and making them upset, but the team just puts the blame on them anyways. It's definitely been tough with the game sucking out people's enjoyment of playing and on top of the toxic community, but taking a step away from it does wonders fs :) I'm glad you found a new passion for monster hunter!
Great video! I primarily listen to my videos at work via Bluetooth earbuds for content while I work away and I came back to say that I appreciate how consumable your content is via audio only. Interesting video! I’d love to see more video essay/rant/story videos like this, your voice suits it 😊👍
I think the best way I can put it is that overwatch 2 just feels directionless and hollow with random change for the sake of change.
Directionless in the sense of pointless character redesigns, time of day changes that ruin art direction, how uncohesive hero select animations seem now, the new ranked system, 5v5 and game direction as a whole.
Hollow in how the monitization changes removed basically all forms of progression, the loss of PVE and any progression of lore, skins for the sake of a battle pass theme instead of things that fit the character.
I know most of these things are "trivial" but the game has slowly ship of Theseus's itself into a compelelty different experience I want no part in. I guess that's what happens when most of the old dev team leaves blizzard.
Comparing it to a similar shooter I love and still do Splatoon and how that series progressed foreward while maintaining the soul of the series makes me sad to see the state of OW.
I absolutely agree with how directionless and pointless ow2 became. Some kit reworks seemed a little like they did it for the sake of "change" rather than what was needed. Progression became bleh, and lots of other things.
Just quit Overwatch too. Uninstalled and deleted my accounts.
Although i'm not a high level player and cannot relate to the extent of the higher ranks, I feel the exact same way. I was constantly chasing a feeling/emotion to have some extra fun and excitement to end the day and feel fulfilled , always looking forward to having my "me time" by hoping on but 2 days ago, it hit me differently.. The game was simply not doing me any good anymore, for my mental, my emotional well-being and a plethora of other reasons which was finally enough for me to step away from it. Thanks for this video and I hope that it will inspire others to take care of themselves, and for those still playing, i'm hoping you all keep having fun and enjoy great company playing!
I can really relate to the idea of the characters you play holding you back in certain situations but not wanting to play the stronger characters because you simply don't find them fun.
The way you described it as a drag is exactly how I feel about that dynamic with OW2. A game is meant to be fun and when part of the games premise is pick whoever character you want to play out of this large roster, and then you do that only for the game scenario to basically say "well actually you can't choose that character this match if you want to be able to play the game," it just feels awful.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts :) The whole thing where you are inclined to play a certain pool of characters in order to be "able to play" and also win (counter swapping for instance) just takes away how vast the hero roster actually is. It definitely feels limiting at points when it feels like there's one "right" character to play in a certain scenario.
Ya, Overwatch 2 has been the only game in my life that makes me feel unhealthy.
my mental health improved like 10% after i stopped playing overwatch
you put a lot of my own thoughts into words so perfectly. It makes me so sad knowing I'll never relive that same feeling I had playing ow1
I'm so glad you could relate to it :)
Jesus this makes me feel old. I was 25 when OW1 came out, and I was HOOKED. For a couple years at least, and then it started getting stale. I came back into Overwatch in 2022 just before OW2 was supposed to to lunch. I feel like I've been chasing that high from 8 years ago, and it just isn't there anymore. I get glimmers of it every once in a while, and the battle passes would keep me grinding, but after almost two years, I feel like it's time to let it go again. RIP to what could've been a game in the GOAT conversation, if it were taken care of the way it deserved to be from day one.
Trying to chase after the glimmer from 8 years ago is so real, I felt that deeply. Oh to dream of what the days would've been like if the game didn't lose itself in its prime form
@@feenixsarchive Agreed. I'm sure all of us, the current devs, and Jeff Kaplan himself all daydream about what OW could've been, if only they had the right support and longterm plan from day one. Such a fun cast of characters and universe too to go to waste.
Thanks for sharing your experience with this vid, it really resonated with me.
Ofc! And I appreciate your thoughts and experiences as well :)
I was a huge fan of this game. I've been playing the game since OW1 Season 3. i was a hardcore Zenyatta Main, and the highest I ever got was Grandmaster. i met a lot of great people because of this game. And I'm still friends with those people today. But i found the game, not fun anymore. I thought it would get better when they released the PVE stuff because I was really looking forward to that. But then they said they weren't gonna do it anymore, so it made me really mad. So I just stopped playing it, and I still haven't played it since. And then they brought 6 V6 back. Yeah, that's cool. But what was the point of making a sequel in the first place. It just made me really miss old overwatch. That's why I went back in and started rewatching butcher old overwatch videos on TH-cam back when the community was still alive. You know. But thankfully, Marvel rivals came out and it's basically old overwatch.
Thanks for sharing Feenix ❤ can relate to this on so many levels
I'm so glad you could
That's honestly why I stopped streaming. I was pulling some pretty good numbers, but it kept poking at me, tugging at me, and I felt like I was playing games to appease a number.
I understand your perspective and I think it’s a natural response to playing the same game for so long. I haven’t quit the game because I still enjoy learning heroes I haven’t played before but I think one of the big issues that’s really unsolvable about this game is that it’s sweaty no matter what game mode you’re in. Whether you’re playing unranked or competitive it all feels the same and whenever you’re doing something difficult/competitive nearly 100% of the time it’s bound to feel like a chore. The only thing that really fixes it is to (1) stop caring about rank/stats or (2) just take a break from the game or have a backup game that’s relaxing to you
Thank you for your thoughts :D I absolutely agree that the game is sweaty no matter the gamemode, I started noticing it when playing qp with my friends. I'm glad you're still enjoying and learning the game tho :) I definitely think I tried both of the "fixes" you provided, but it only really solidified me to just quit unfortunately :/
@@feenixsarchive yeah way easier said than done I agree. those “fixes” are just what I end up telling myself when the going gets tough 😂
This is me on so many levels. I was never all that good at OW but I loved the first game. My parents bought me the game of the year addition for Christmas and I played the hell out of it for at least a year, becoming a Hanzo main that people actually thought was good and competent at my job. I fell out of love for OW after a while and took an extended break from it. When I decided to come back out of nostalgia, I found out that OW 1 was gone. It was taken down and replaced by OW 2. Ever since then I've been extremely on and off with the game. I'll reinstall it for a few months, play on and off, but then decide that actually I don't like OW 2 and uninstall it again. It doesn't feel the same, it doesn't feel fun. It feels like microtransaction hell, it feels like a pointless grind, it feels empty
This omg. It felt like the life/fun of the game was drained out, and it was a shell of what it was. It's such a shame 😔
Overwatch 2 is like drugs without the high. Addictive, f*cks up your mood, but doesn’t even feel good.
SAME! such a great memory of how good the game was and trying to force myself to play has gotten to point where I dont even want to boot it up.
Ugh it honestly sucks so much. I'm glad you could relate tho :D
@@feenixsarchive def fond memories of ow1! Hopefully you found some other games you love!
absolutely! same for me hehe. and thank you!
Me too, revisiting this game is like visiting your old best friend only to find out they sold all their belongings to feed their heroin addiction
I'm the kind of player that gets the most out of a game when I play with my friends so when I reinstalled ow for my friends I thought it would make the game feel better. It definitely beats playing alone but I still feel so unmoved whether we win or lose and I too realized that even my friends couldn't magically fix the game for me. I've experienced this same thing with league of legends and I've just concluded that I must have "fallen out of love" with these games. There's something magical about getting into a game and wanting to learn everything about it but these online multiplayers inevitably change for better or worse. Now I kinda just play occasionally when someone asks me to hop on so we can have something that everyone can play and I think that's as good as it gets. Just a game to have in the background.
Ugh, I totally get your experience all too well. It always sucks when a multiplayer game "falls off," and not even friends can help bring it back up. I hope there's other games you can find with your friends to have fun and play with :D
Goated choice of music if i may say so
Hehe thank you!
I can genuinely agree with this honestly.
I am currently in my quitting era and I've been on this game since day 1 of its release and it doesn't feel the same anymore. For me, 5v5 and 6v6, stats or none of the main game stuff mattered.
What really took my toll was the amount of times I had to hear the constant FOMO riding of "This game is back again" and "We're so back" stuff.
We lost PvE (sure. we cant have nice things)
The Patch Notes weren't lining up (Some characters kept getting a weird tun up or toned down when not needed)
Characters needed a constant fix or change in kit to be well suited for the 5v5 (which could have been done whilst the game was in development)
Casual vs Competitive players would never meet eye to eye and it was always such a toxic battlefield that neither can agree on
Its somewhat upsetting when people can't just play to have fun anymore and I feel like this comes in the form of free to play accessibility and the lack of open play between all platforms (switch being a barren wasteland, Xbox actually being somewhat decent to play and Playstation community is toxic as all hell and im from PS). Its amazing that its accessible by default but now EVERYONE just magically gains a "I know everything because I won a single game" just urks me. If I paid some good cash for the game, I wouldn't have to worry about a Reinhardts hammer being $53 CAD. Its FP2 so the additional Microtransactions can happen and its just so rough.
At the end of the day, everyone experience is their own. Mine is slowly diluting to where I am better off playing a different game than Overwatch 2
When the game swapped to 5v5, I literally stopped playing doom especially to see how boring tank is since it’s rock, paper scissors. When I was playing the game, I was a projectile/flex dps player who played genji the most but the devs just hate the characters I play :(
It always sucks when the dev team takes the fun out of characters people love playing :( Counter swapping is so boring, but UNFORTUNATELY necessary, and it's just no fun.
I was basically a Sym 2.0 one trick for this game, nothing was ever as good as she was. Popping a personal shield in front of a High Noon and throwing some turrents down at his feet while the animation finishes, surviving because the shield takes the hit, and then winning out over a duel someone used their literal ultimate on with just your basic kit? You can't make drugs that hit better than that. I miss the character gameplay I fell in love with, but the newer iterations of Sym are so different it's night and day. Nothing is the same. I never even bothered trying OW2 because there just wasn't any point.
Your reasoning is totally understandable. In the transition to OW2 I too felt the difference, and the game felt like is more soulless. I still play the game to this day (because I still like it), but not as much as I used to do.
I'm glad to hear some people do still like the game, but yeah, it just doesn't hit the same 😔
One less mercy player is a W in my books
At this point I am starting to regret having received Overwatch 1 as a gift and addicted to it in late 2018... (2.5k hrs time) and had too much hope in OW2... I am going to cry
No I totally get that :(( I spent so much time and energy into this game when I was addicted, but sometimes we just have to move on and reminisce about the good ol days 😔
@@feenixsarchive "the parties eventually end" I was delulu to think it wouldn't happen, now it's painfully clear...😭
2016 OW1 beta here. I'm a point where I just hop on Overwatch every now and then. I've been playing my other three games that I also play often: HSR, Genshin, and Destiny. At the time of this comment, community creator patch is still going on. And I went back to playing OW and having so much fun, after not playing it for a month. It felt refreshing and gameplay loop felt so much fun for me. Too bad it's limited time.
At this point, there's just nothing for me to look forward to.
- 5v5 gameplay loop is more stale compared to 6v6. 6v6 should just come back. It's clear 5v5 cannot survive long term
- On top with 5v5 issues, tanks feels even more worst to play. This also leads to supports and dps not feeling satisfied to play.
- 90% of OW2 cosmetics are expensive and locked behind paywalls where before we could earn them by playing
- More skin recolors but still locked behind paywall
- no level borders
- no new lores onto Overwatch universe and heroes
- PvE, the biggest reason of OW2 exists has been officially scrapped
- No lfg feature
- Workshop being neglected more
Overwatch 2 is your typical free-to-play live-service game that is design to milk as much money as possible. The only update I see comes from the monetization which that kills the rewards by just playing the game. And it sucks because Overwatch 1 was not like that. There were more care being put onto the Ip and players were the main focus. I would rather have lootboxes to keep earning rather than what we have in Overwatch 2.
But apologies for the long comment, just want to get these thoughts/experiences towards Overwatch. I have tried other games like Apex and Valorant but it still feels like there are no games like Overwatch. There's no Tracer, no Kiriko, Doomfist, no Winston, all of my favorite heroes I play. The universe in Overwatch is beautiful as well.
Omg hsr and genshin my beloved!! Hehe, you're more than welcome to add me if you'd like :) But don't apologize for the long comment, I appreciate you being open with your thoughts and experiences towards the game, and I agree with every point you've made. I've noticed ow2 definitely felt more catered to bringing in as much money as possible, while also disregarding the f2p experience in a way :/ I miss my lootboxes 😔
Overwatch is definitely the most unique and fun game I've ever played, but who knows if it'll ever be repaired.
@@feenixsarchive Definitely agree with the unique and fun game part. We were all there at the golden age. Community was thriving and positive. People talked about the game, Overwatch universe and its lores, the heroes, getting better at the game, esports scene, and even animated cinematics that felt special back then. It was a really good time to be part of an Overwatch community that time. Overwatch has that special magic that brings all the communities together.
It's sad that we won't able to see what Overwatch could've been. But who knows? Maybe they'll finally realize the old golden era of Overwatch back then. Sometimes it's okay to go back to the drawing board and see what was done well.
In the meantime, I'm excited for Natlan in Genshin. I'll be sure to add you soon!
@@ninthfriend3347 Ugh take me back to the golden era of overwatch fr, those were the days. I hope they'll look back and try their best to revive or fix the game, but who knows how well they'll do it or if they'll even care enough to try to bring it back to its former glory. We can only wait and see.
Hehe, I added you! I am excited to see Natlan too :D
i have the same feelings as u when i quit
something that i could rationalize as why i dont like ow anymore was
1. 5v5 feels like team deathmatch, i didnt like that mode in ow1 and only played qp and ranked. I liked the teamwork and coordination part of the game and 5v5 has taken that away little by little
2. role passives, basically taking player agency away and giving it to the game. This makes it quite frustrating when it comes to decision making, feels like there are 10 wrong decisions and 1 right one.
It's ultimately about who you play not how you play. This format and passives is slowly killing hero identities..
That's mostly why it's boring to me now.. hopefully one day we will get 6v6 back with no passives as a game mode in the future
Comparing 5v5 to a team deathmatch is actually so accurate omg. It feels more catered to individual performance rather than team play, which was the main reason ow was so fun. Thank you for your comment :D
the way i’ve seen like 5 different people in the comments saying their journey started & ended w the release of ow2 💀 that’s….not a good thing lmfao rip
LMAOOO it definitely says something
one day i met this mercy player than said she was top 10 for a couple season because of this guy she met and dated but then he left her for someone else (typical mercy kitten experience :/ ) and she dropped to like diamond or masters (i was boosting an acc when i met her so idr what elo it was). she was telling me how her mental dropped like a rock bc she used to take this game so seriously and equated her real life value to her rank on top of how players just are towards women and mercy players.
im more or less known throughout the cosmos as the most toxic brig player (mostly just bc i wont let people slur me) but that shit had me feeling TERRIBLE for her.
its so sad to hear that youre also a mercy player who has quit overwatch because to me mercy players ARE overwatch. i hope you guys both find a new passion either in or outside of overwatch.
LOL that's pure cringe
@@Batnano cringe so hard that u die over it then irdc
NAUR i feel just as bad for her now hearing how her mental dropped bc of her rank :(( I have definitely felt that myself bc I always used to beat myself up over how I played "bad" in the games I played (no matter if they were win or loss), and it leaked into my mental irl which was not great. I wish her the best wherever she is!
I do highly appreciate your words and support tho they mean a lot
Lol pocket carried
@@feenixsarchive human value will NEVER come from pixels on a screen and i hope u guys can keep that in mind going forward
I miss the attention to skins, the events, events lasting a month instead of a week or day, the animations, heroes coming out more slowly, torb and sym not being reworked every 2 years or so, the tons of alterations on supports role. Like there was a consistency to the game and back with Jeff they cared about having a good fun experience. I couldn't care about some mythic skin with 5 ugly skins for 40 bucks and other 20 dollar skins every single week! 2017-2018 overwatch was amazing...everyone I know started quitting then.
Games are fun the first few years when changes arent that bad but now i logged on after 4 years and i dont think its even the same game anymore. it was fun back in 2017-18 when they removed most of the broken abilites and 2-2-2 was meta.
very well said, at this point only a version of overwatch 1 can bring us old veterans back
Glad I'm not the only one. I picked up OW1 in Summer 2019 and loved it. I was excited to play every day, I loved grinding comp and doing everything I could to improve my gameplay. Even when I went on loss streaks and dealt with toxic teammates, I still wanted to play. When lockdown hit, I joined a grassroots league and played even more, getting up at 8AM to practice with my team every day for hours, running scrims throughout the weeks. We swept our division 29-1, I still think fondly of a ridiculous strat we pulled off on King's Row during an official match. I have 1400 hours.
Now it only takes a few matches of qp to take the wind out of my sails, even when playing with friends. I only really play OW a few times over the course of a couple weeks and then I drop it again for a few months. It's just not really fun anymore and I'm not sure why. I wish I still loved this game.
I felt you there :((( Ugh, those scrims must've been so much fun too from what I can tell. The competitive drive just went poof in ow2 and it's just not as fun anymore, which really really sucks to this day. I miss the game I fell in love with.
No way you liked 2019-2020 overwatch it was the worst
@@omarpro1495 If I'd played before 2019, I prolly wouldn't have liked 2019-2020 lol
The part were she says that she wasn't really needed felt so crushing idk why it made me feel that way. 20:28
I hate this game but there is no experience like playing Doomfist in any other fps it’s ridiculous how unique and cool he is
dps doom, never forget what they took away from us
I recognize so many of my feelings in yours. I used to love Overwatch. It was special. Overwatch 2 basically ripped out a lot of what made the original special and well, you said it perfectly; it’s just not the same anymore.
There’s a lot of conversations about a potential 6v6 return and I do think that’s a big step in the right direction. OW2 was a mistake in pretty much every sense and that’s what both angers and saddens me so very much. More than I can put into words. I’ve felt so robbed for years.
I 100% understand your sentiment. I hope they start making good progress to fix their mistakes :)
As someone that has played ow since the beginning climbing my way to mid gm having fun for many years I knew that ow was gonna go downhill the moment they announced ow2, the game had its issues before this, but atleast i always had fun. Same as you, i realise anytime i play ow2 I am just coping, the game is gone, so is the passion. I only play dm nowdays, but I will probably quit that now too.
It's always so nice seeing people resonate with how my passion faded away from the game, especially once it switched it ow2. Sigh, it's really such a shame how much they messed it up
Started playing in 2020 so during the Double Shield meta - had more fun than i ever did in OW2. Tanks died, DPS were impactful, supports weren't power crept into the void (as much as they are now).
Still play the game pretty regularly even though i can't help but keep the memories of a superior experience in the back of my head the whole time :^)
Ugh I felt this. Ow1 will always be in the back of my mind when I play the sorry state of ow2 😔
As someone who has been playing so long I have the pre-order widow skin from 1, I understand everything without you having to say anything. Even the part about mercy being comfy because of not having to aim lmao. I don't play anymore either I'm just watching them try to put out the fire (been a rein mein since season 2 of OG so I felt the pain especially hard).
Also did not expect ff8 music when I clicked on the video.
Haha I've def still been watching on the sidelines to see what they're doing with the game, and it's still making me shake my head LOL man I miss my rein mains 😔 they were the most based players but they started disappearing after ow2.
LMAO ff8 music is so good I had to
@@feenixsarchive Honestly I haven't played for like a year but I've kept it installed, now that Aron said they're gonna talk about 6v6 next directors blog I'm just waiting for that and will hit the uninstall button forever depending on how it goes. Also mercy mains used to be the voice in reason in overwatch, in 2 they all left and now we just get toxic mercies sob.
Obligatory FITHOS. LUSEC. WECOS. VINOSEC.
Yeah, I've caught wind of 6v6 making it's ultimate return! Depending on how people react to it once it does come back I might try the game again? I highly doubt it, but I'll never know lol. Omg I've heard of more toxic mercy players making their appearance and I'm just 😭 where did all the nice ones go I swear.
I can do absolutely relate, to just about everything.
I played tank since s9 ow1, I wanted to get better, see improvement, and see numbers go up.
I remember starting as a silver player and just wanting to get to plat, my friends and I would grind for many sleepless nights to make it happen.
When I hit low masters at the end of overwatches life cycle, I felt genuinely good about my progress, but then I learned of my tank buddies never being able to play with me again.
The game immediately felt less fun because I essentially lost a friend with one change to the game.
And it’s not like we can just play ow1.
I remember starting groups to play in as many games with as many people with mics as I could, there are no more players with mics. No more community, no more fire for getting better among the broader majority of players.
I used to pick this game up here and there, but I can’t remember the last time I played anymore.
I miss my favorite game
I absolutely felt you there. The passion of grinding to get better disappeared. It felt like the community no longer had the passion either as no one wanted to use their mics. It just felt dry. Soulless. I miss my favorite game too :(
watching this video after playing the game since launch makes me sad how much from grace this game fell off for a lot of people. not only that but i remember buying this game with my own allowance and was so excited and to see it just be this pile of dumpster doodoo makes me sad. i now switched to tf2 and never looked back ever since the bot crisis got fixed. I hope overwatch manages to fix itself but with these current changes they want to do to tanks I will leave my roses to it's grave and only remember the good times.
I quitted three days ago, I was so messed up because of this game. I hated some of its mechanics but I was still too compelled. I started feeling bored of everything and kinda sad and numb, also very very tired. I noticed my thoughts were leading towards the same thought over and over again, and it was overwatch. I am still very intoxicated and basically a junkie for this very awful game... let's be honest.
So yeah I just wish to never touch this game ever again. For good.
I feel the same, my passion for the game is no longer here... Now I'm only playing to not miss some skins in case 6v6 come back...
I know the feeling. Overwatch was the first FPS that have a strong identity, so many heroes to choose, all very different between them, and some have a strong sinergy between them like rein/zarya, dva/winston, tracer/genji or lucio/ana. I remember rhe first time I play Ana, it feel so good, the way she plays with her pros and cons, how fun she was too play, but the particular thing was the interactions with other characters and that make her unique for me. Of course the gameplay was awesome, for the sinergy. But when 5v5 came, ana wasnt the same. The game lost his identity, and every new character that was release was more broken than before. I also play zen, bap, Moira, lucio and some brig. But I love the game cause of Ana, and there comes Kiriko and Illari. Was the point of a good sleep or nade, when with a simple CD all is cancelled, or having a turret that heals your team for you while you can be just shooting. I miss 6v6, and I miss the old Overwatch. But its like you said "maybe its time to move on"
P.D: I love the music of final fantasy for the video
i used to be in the scrim scene in ow1 and i deeply relate to your experiences. There used to be legions of players that wanted to get better and spent thousands of hours of our lives pursuing that goal in scrims and tournaments across the globe. Blizzard killed the passion of thousands of players with ow2, including myself. The only thing left to do now is to just move on. At least until Blizzard starts to love and care for this game the same way we used to
Sigh, we can only hope that Blizzard will fix their mistakes, but I think the damage is already done
Chrono Cross soundtrack on the background. Always good to listen to.
I started my experience purchasing the deluxe edition of a 6v6 double shield game in 2017, I later also bought the PvE expansion for the “new game”, and I even became a Hanzo main in early OW2 by putting an insane amount of time practicing some high risk high reward flick ~predict headshots.
I feel so fucking betrayed.
NAUR the PvE expansion was actually such a let down, and they discontinued it, it's actually such a disappointment to all who bought it. We all feel betrayed by the game in a way.
This sounds a lot like my experience.
I was originally an Xbox player who started playing to hide from IRL problems. I met a bunch of friends online and really enjoyed grinding and playing with them as we all learned and a handful of us reaching top 500 (me on tank). I remember those eager days to get home and log on where we would all chat in discord all day waiting for the next bunch of games we would play, we even participated in console tournaments.
Eventually during the content lull a few people left the game and it was just me and my tank duo with an occasional support friend mixed in. I eventually made the switch to PC in the last few seasons of OW1 and peaked around diamond.
Fast forward to OW2 as a former top 500 tank main, I do not enjoy the tank experience. I used to have a 2nd tank to share the 6 CC’s I had coming my way while now I'm alone to take all 5, every loss no matter what I do I get spammed “tank diff” and I occasionally get suspended for throwing despite typically holding a 55% or better win rate.
I just don't enjoy the game anymore, I am expected to do the job of 2 without any help, I get all the blame and most importantly I am no longer able to duo up with my friend where we could control the game place and in comms by having everyone coalesce behind the tanks plans. Now it feels like with how the meta forces team composition and with counterpicking as bad as it is the game has devolved into a 4v4 team Deathmatch with the tanks sitting off to the side in a CC chain for the DPS to charge ultimates on.
I am finding myself playing less and less and I just don't see it ever getting better since they basically took a very unique game and highjacked the franchise to make a shop tailored to the lowest players who will mindlessly spend money on skins and will ditch the game at the drop of a hat for a new fad so an ow1 OG tank main like me can screw off since I'm clearly not wanted or appreciated anymore. It's kind of sad with the history of the game and what this game meant to me helping me navigate my trauma years ago.
Sorry for the long post
No, don't apologize for the long post. I love reading everyone's stories so I appreciate you being open about your experience :) Ow for me definitely was an escape from whatever school stress I was feeling, so I definitely understand escaping IRL for a bit to have some fun.
I absolutely felt you on how ow2 feels like team deathmatch. It's the most accurate description I feel and tanks feel like such an important role, but they carry so much responsibility and burden in a team fight. They're expected to make space and get kills, but also peel for the backline at the same time and also not get absolutely MELTED within a second. It's a hard role for just one person which is why I highly believe the tank role NEEDS the other tank back in a 6v6 setting. We'll see how they handle on bringing 6v6 back :)
@@feenixsarchive thank you for the words of support, curious if I ever ran into you back in the Xbox days, the GM/Top 500 circle wasn't too huge :)
Anyway I hope you stay away and don't get tempted, idk why I keep logging in when I know what awaits me, I guess I just can't fully let go so I run back to the abuse.
True! I wonder if we ever did meet in a game long long ago haha. I hope you break out of the cycle of logging back in tho, the pain and suffering must come to a stop at some point LMAOOO but gl in your games 🫡
I'm also an OG player and I've felt the same way. I recently came to the sad realization that Overwatch 2 just wasn't made for me, or OW1 players. It feels like it has been optimised to gather more "classic FPS" players from other games, with a more kill-based fast paced gameplay. What made me fall in love with OW1 is that you could pick nearly any hero and feel like you were contributing something to the team. For example when playing tank, if you weren't an aggressive player you could still focus on protecting your team and be helpful in doing so. The game used to valorize different playstyles but now in OW2, the main goal is just to wipe the enemy team as fast as possible. Tank is miserable and supports are put in a weird position where they have to put their entire healing on the tank or else the tank falls but also they need to help secure kills as well by doing damage. If you don't counterplay you're also pretty much cooked. Mercy is still to this day my second most played hero but I literally haven't played her since OW2 came out because the burst damage is just too strong. I still play for the dailies and weeklies because of FOMO but most of the time logging in feels like a chore, as soon as events and/or battlepasses are done I usually stop playing until the next update.
That's gonna sound insane but after years of hating League of Legends I finally gave this game a good shot and I'm actually enjoying it so much. The servers are so much more stable, I don't get sent to foreign servers with 300ms, the updates are frequent and grinding games even outside of an event still feels rewarding. If you don't pay for the battlepass, grinding OW2 gives you nearly jack diggidy squat (I know they've been improving that over time but still). I've also made the decision to put more time into more solo story-driven FPS games instead.
With all of that said I hope you find your next favorite game and I hope it helps you move on from OW.
You're so right, ow2 definitely tried to follow other mainstream fps games, and I think that's also what ruined it. It didn't feel unique anymore :/ YES feeling like you could actually contribute something in ow1 is SO REAL, but in ow2 it's just... Not the case. I totally felt you with logging on feeling like a chore. It definitely didn't help bc ow2 didn't feel like you had much to grind for other than the bp 😔
I heard some of my other ow friends trying league and enjoying it as well, and I'm glad you ended up liking it too! Enjoy what game makes you happy (altho I'll poke fun at you jokingly in the distance LMAOOO)! And thank you 🫶
The reasons are simple. The game has changed and we grew older. Blizzard has done an incredibly poor job at managing this game and the love the devs used to have died quite a bit, similarly to the love players have for the game in turn
Ahh, yes, chrono cross music, a woman of culture I see 👌
hehe ofcofc!