I hate Overwatch (+ why I quit)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ค. 2024
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ʚ 𝘋𝘦𝘴𝘤𝘳𝘪𝘱𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 ɞ
Hey birbs! ^^ I've had this video planned for MONTHS. It's been something I wanted to talk about for a while now of why I have been avoiding playing overwatch lately and eventually quit (again). If you enjoy videos like this where I'm just yapping about myself for a couple minutes let me know and I'll try to make more content like this! I also tried to include pink mercy gameplay to celebrate the return of pink mercy (which I did buy the bundle :P). Anyways, enjoy!
Also here's the link to both of skiesti's mercy vids!!
• skiesti's mercy tourna...
• THE MOST FUN I've had ...
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ʚ 𝘚𝘰𝘯𝘨 𝘕𝘢𝘮𝘦 ɞ
❀ Arni (Another World) - Chrono Cross OST ❀
❀ Arni (Home World) - Chrono Cross OST ❀
❀ Balamb Garden - Final Fantasy VIII OST ❀
❀ Breezy - Final Fantasy VIII OST ❀
❀ Thoughts Straying as Clouds - HOYO-MiX ❀
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ʚ 𝘛𝘪𝘮𝘦 𝘚𝘵𝘢𝘮𝘱𝘴 ɞ
0:00 Intro
0:14 Disclaimer
0:58 My Passion (how I got into Overwatch)
2:29 My Passion (why I started maining Mercy)
6:16 My Passion (switching from xbox to mnk)
7:40 The Barrier (Overwatch 2 release)
9:30 The Barrier (how numbers affected my mental)
10:37 The Barrier (starting to take more breaks)
11:24 The Barrier (missing Overwatch 1)
12:55 The Barrier (not having fun with friends anymore)
14:18 Relapse
15:33 Relapse (entering a new environment)
16:07 Relapse (I stopped caring)
20:39 Present Day
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ʚ 𝘛𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘣𝘯𝘢𝘪𝘭 𝘈𝘳𝘵 ɞ
❀ Made by me! ❀
❀ 𝘎𝘰 𝘴𝘶𝘱𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘮 𝘰𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮(𝘴)! ❀
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ʚ 𝘛𝘢𝘨𝘴 ɞ
#overwatch #overwatch2
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ALSO sorry if like my mic picked up on some gross mouth sounds (idk how else to describe it) and if it was unevenly sound balanced I tried ;-;
But I hope you all enjoy nonetheless and lmk your own throughts/experiences towards overwatch!
I will probably still make some ow content from whatever ANCIENT left over clips I have!
those sounds are acually the best part of the video
LMAOOO i mean if you say so
So many of my friends have quit the game just has so many balance problems and they really need to bring back 6v6. I resorted to playing junkrat just for fun now.
LOLL more power to you!
honestly id say the older the clips the better!
It sucks seeing so many small creators come out of nowhere all explaining their disappointments with the game
Really shows the downfall of the game I think 😔
Big creators been showing their frustrations with the game for a while. 6v6 against 5v5 is making them go to war
its actually really cool and i love it, its about damn time.
@@BTRshow Its not realy a war the reality is 5v5 isnt working and the devs cant fix it and never will but becouse its Blizzard/Team4 they refuse to every admit if anything they do didnt woke so we keep just sitting in that strang limbo were everybody knows the only realy option is 6v6 but also we know its not gone happen
@xythiera7255 there is a war, between pro 5v5 and pro 6v6 people. The amount of popular videos of sides going after eachother is pretty high. I agree with you, 5v5 isn't working. Like you said tho, Team 4 will never fix it or really properly balance it. Overwatch 2 will never be in a good state with team 4. That's something we all just have to accept.
I never got the chance to play overwatch 1, I was so excited to finally get to play 2. I think Overwatch 2 is one of the worst multiplayer games i've ever played.
Omg overwatch 1 was a game like no other imho. Was one of the most fun multiplayers I've played. Too bad it's gone now :( ow2 is pretty dookie LOL
@@feenixsarchivecan't go a match without getting counter picked 😅
literally so real
Its not the worst just so much thrown away potantial
@@xythiera7255 For me, it's been the worst. It feels utterly restrictive and just lacks any fun.
I think the mainstream reason people don't like OW2 is the fact that 6v6 is gone. Because once you lose your one tank, you WILL be at a serious disadvantage and it's just not fun at all.
Literally this. Tanks are the pillars of the entire team fight and that's why counter picking became the main strat of the game 😔
@@feenixsarchive and tanks SUCK TO PLAY (im a tank player).. Tank is like the quarerback but tanks cant finish it, they are in the role to pop off, but are useless lol
hope its understandable xd
Hehe I get you crystal clear. I applaud all tank players for doing what they do 🫡
I remember before they nerfed the supports and healing the game would basically be a skylander boss. You had to kill both the supports and then work around the dps to get to the tank and as soon as he’s dead you’ve just won
when they removed one tank from the pool it was fun playing as dps but as a flex player, playing as tank now is miserable........ This has been an ongoing issue and blizzard is SOMEWHAT taking into account of it now.
I feel ya on the love and loss of OW1. OW2 felt...off for some reason. It wasn't until recently I put the pieces together. Without that 2nd tank, every roll has to be a "shooter" more. I was a support main and it was nice being able to contribute to the match without having to aim well like you said. You can still get that feeling a little with Mercy in OW2, but everything else feels more FPS driven which I'm terrible at. OW1 was nice because you could still contribute to your team without being a McShooty master.
YES YOU'RE SO RIGHT!! I also noticed the lack of a second tank made the game very much dps focused, hence why supports became so strong and able to get more picks I think.
THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THIS
Omg I 100% don't blame you for that either
OW1 was such a unique experience, you could play one character in OW1 for years and never get bored cause there were so many variables and situations to get into . Even with characters that have a simple kit, it allowed people who didn’t even have an fps background to express their skill in more ways than just raw aiming . OW2 killed this concept in attempt to make the game easy for everyone .
THIS FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK ‼️‼️
I relate so strongly to your experience. The exception being that I only started with Overwatch 2.
I genuinely don't know how the developers think that this game is even remotely okay. I have nearly 1,000 hours in Overwatch 2 and a good chunk of that is me just gritting my teeth and hoping that it gets better.
The game I loved died a few seasons into It's lifetime, and even then it is clearly worse than the original. Even I can see that.
Anyways, my life has dramatically improved since I stopped playing. I still think about the game nearly every day, and I'm genuinely sad that I can't play anymore.
But Overwatch 2 is literally unhealthy for itself and it's players.
No thisssssss. I think I'm roughly closer to 2k hours total from ow1 and 2??? I can't remember, but man it's definitely been going downhill ever since ow2's release and I wish it didn't go in that direction :(( I totally felt you on trying to cling on to some hope for the game lol, I stayed a lot longer than I thought I would've, and quitting was kind of difficult.
I'm glad you took the step away from the game and I hope you find another game that's more rewarding and healthier in a sense :D
Crazy how good my intuition can be when I predicted the game was gonna go downhill after Jeff left
I hate OW but my timeline of getting there happened so much faster. I started playing OW2 around April 2023 after Lifeweaver was released. I had always been interested in the game back during its release but I heard how toxic it was and was scared to try but with OW2 being free to play and PVE being in the works I was excited to try.
And then not only did I find out that PVE wasn't happening but Lifeweaver was considered a throw pick for awhile and even today isn't considered that great competitively and people still constantly make videos about how bad he is. He's the hero I joined the game to play because I liked his kit so much. I have hundreds of hours on him, more than any other character and yet just bc of how he's valued and his kit I can't even feel comfortable playing competitive without being told Im throwing.
As such I ended up playing characters I was unfamiliar with in the beginning of my competitive journey and as a result I fell in rank really hard. I slowly climbed back up but I was so discouraged I just gave up comp immediately. What's the point of playing something if I cant even play the characters I like?
I have long since muted all chats aside from group & whispers and I exclusively play QP now. But when a game feels like this what's the point of playing it? I've resolved to play through the Battle Pass on each new season but other than that I don't play. I've gone back to my WoW roots and tbh it's so liberating. Dying in WoW for the first few times actually gave me anxiety and I realized it was bc of OW. Mount farming and daily quests are so much more relaxing lol
Omg I've seen some amazing lifeweavers in my time playing, but they def aren't very common bc he just gets outclassed by all the other supports. I'm sorry you felt discouraged from playing someone you really enjoyed in a competitive setting
Ngl u soft fr if u can't handle a lil trash talk but ye after ow1 they started lowering the skill cealing on all characters I play genji when ow1 launched and they removed bufferdashing they added the ability to cancel deflect when u can already do that by wall climbing they removed infinite wall climb and ledge super dash they do all this just to make the character ez to play making it more accessible
It sucks huge when a passion dies. The thing with games is like it's usually some change that comes along and it feels like we were forced away.
THISSSSS :( It's such a sucky thing, but I feel like it comes naturally too, but it still sucks LOL
@@feenixsarchive But this wasn't natural. This was uniquelely awful. The transition to OW2 sure redefined the sequel into being Overwatch 0.75. More cut content than we got. But you're right about it happening naturally 100%
Oh absolutely, you're right about that too
@@feenixsarchive and the format change has ruined 1/3 of the game for many of us. I miss dual tanking. I think the DPS passive should be changed to more damage to shields and we should go back to 6v6
Man, they changed so much from the original game, going back to its roots is def the way to go atp LOL
hey i hope you're well. i must say,this is a very good video. overwach for me is love and hate. im currently trapped in high silver/low gold because whenever i win a game i end up either getting worse teamates or i get rolled by the other team. ive put hundreds of hours into the game and ive gotten better,but the matchmaking system for lower ranks just doesnt help in any way.
i look forward to seeing more of your videos.
Thank you for your comment, it means a lot ^^ Man, even in higher ranks I'm ngl the matchmaking is just as bad. There's always bound to be people on your team who just can't beat the enemy team so it's mainly a team diff all around. It definitely felt like to me, no matter if I'm getting better, if their team is just better than there's only so much you can do tbh.
Matchmaking aint better higher up though😭 and on console any game above plat was just Xim Widows😭
ONG THIS
OW used to be so good. I dont hate Overwatch 2, I just hate playing it if that makes sense. I had to uninstall it or get stuck in the cycle because its addicting but miserable to play.
I get you 1000000% it's how I felt for a while too during most periods of ow2
As a tf2 player you have my condolences. 💐
First time seing a tf2 player not being an asshole about it, thats rare
Im now wondering which TF2...
Im guessing Team Fortress 2, but there's always the possibility of being Titanfall 2 too, thanks EA for murdering it :(
Remembering Overwatch 1 feels like I’m remembering a close friend that I’ll never see again. I made so many incredible memories and it was genuinely the most fun game I have ever played. Of course, it had a it’s fair share of issues, but the community and fluid nature of the game encouraged teamwork and communication in a way I had never experienced before and have failed to find since. Elements of this still exist in Overwatch 2, but it just feels like a neutered version of the game I fell in love with.
In retrospect, I don’t think the people making decisions about the game really ever understood what made it so great. It really bums me out that the game I fell in love with only exists alongside the memories I made in it - in the past and in my memory.
Thissssss hit home. Nothing else was quite like ow1, and it's a shame it's all a part of our memories now. I cope now that the dev team will try to restore it to its former glory but I highly doubt it.
I remember how fun the game used to feel like when I first started playing it, grouping up with my friends and pulling all nighters, now I see myself hoping for that glimpse of the past and logging on every day just praying that maybe, just maybe, that fun that I used to have would return somehow.
But deep down I know that is over, I'm using nostalgia to cope with the hate and disgust that I feel every time that I open this game.
This hit so close to home oml
I don’t really know any other shooting games like overwatch so that’s really the only reason I keep playing.
I really felt you there. It's why it was my main game for so long. But I tried apex and valorant which are kinda similar to ow but not really. I'd suggest those ^^
Paladins I think is pretty similar from what I've seen and heard it looks quite fun too
@@IOwnNarcot1czno paladins looks so weird and clunky
Marvel rivals seems similar
Play tf2
Papa Jeff leaving Blizzard was a very-very bad sign for overwatch's soul, making bad solo tank experience in 5v5 format and cancelling PvE entirely proves it.
my brother introduced me to the overwatch beta back when i was only 8 years old. i practically grew up playing overwatch and it sucks so much seeing a game you loved so dearly fall so far from what it once was.
I miss borders, I miss end cards, I miss seeing my rank, I miss 6v6, I miss telling the homies I only got 2 more arcade wins for a lootbox. The very same homies I played with for 5 years in OW1 quit 1 by 1 in OW2. I hate the fact they removed borders, end cards, rank icon, 1 tank and the FOMO shop on rotation to get a skin with real life currency. We still don't even have weapon inspects when they showed it off all the way back in OW2 trailers. They killed the promised PVE which was the biggest selling point for OW2. Then you got thanos walking around as the solo tank snapping his fingers, and the worst part is they either do not die or die instantly, miserable. OW2 is a failure.
This really hit oml. BUT THE WEAPON INSPECTS YOU'RE SO RIGHT! WHERE THEY AT FR. Ow2 is such a letdown.
@@feenixsarchive They're being used for Mythic weapon skin inspects or as Blizz calls it, "Weapon Flourish".
No way it's gonna be exclusive to the mythic weapon skins. Bruh smh. Come on blizzard
@@feenixsarchive Well as long as the community can come together and outright stop purchasing the dumb overpriced bullshit from the shop, then maybe we will be able to get it available to every hero. But I doubt that will ever happen. This community has too much apathy (like myself) or a few too many stupid whales that don't care about the state of the game and will buy everything in the shop and will ruin this game's future in the long run. It took us what like 9 seasons to finally release premium currency in the battle pass... but not enough for the next one. And yet no one will call it out.
Sorry for the little rant. I just wish I could have my old overwatch that I spent 3500 hours on.
@@acorn1265 Why tf are they tied to mythic weapons? The trailer literally showed it on default skins implying you could use it for any skin.
The pure greed is astounding.
The constant checking stats is so relatable, I used to be so confident on playing my favourite hero ball but now with one tank it’s hard to enjoy with all the high demands of what people expect from your one tank player. Also when I heard that PvE was being cancelled after waiting all that time in Overwatch 1, it was so painful because I was so invested in the lore that made me want to learn more about the story. Tysm for sharing your opinion
Thank you for sharing your experience! :) Ugh, when they completely cancelled PvE, I felt super bad for anyone who was even remotely interested in the lore and anyone who bought the missions from a while ago. It's such a shame they literally lied to us.
i have the same feelings as u when i quit
something that i could rationalize as why i dont like ow anymore was
1. 5v5 feels like team deathmatch, i didnt like that mode in ow1 and only played qp and ranked. I liked the teamwork and coordination part of the game and 5v5 has taken that away little by little
2. role passives, basically taking player agency away and giving it to the game. This makes it quite frustrating when it comes to decision making, feels like there are 10 wrong decisions and 1 right one.
It's ultimately about who you play not how you play. This format and passives is slowly killing hero identities..
That's mostly why it's boring to me now.. hopefully one day we will get 6v6 back with no passives as a game mode in the future
Comparing 5v5 to a team deathmatch is actually so accurate omg. It feels more catered to individual performance rather than team play, which was the main reason ow was so fun. Thank you for your comment :D
I can relate to this video so much. It actually touched my heartstrings, because I like you find it so hard to let go. I've "quit" Overwatch several times through the years even with OW1 but something always brought me back. It's this thought that one day I might feel that excitement like I used to back in 2016 and fomo with the skins. A part of me is still holding out that 6v6 will return and that I'll be happy I invested my time and money if or when Overwatch returns to those glory days. I wanna play Mercy and Kiriko too, but feel like I'm at a disadvantage so often when I meet a Bap, Lucio or Ana. You know the game is in a bad place when you are "forced" to play heroes you don't want/like just to keep up with the rest of the players. As a support main what I always loved was feeling like I could lift my teammates, enable them to pop off. It just feels great when you get that perfect rez or ultimate and turn the tides of the team fight. I've always gravitated towards supports in games, and I think it's for this reason. The fact that you know they really appreciate having you in their team, that you got their back. When they fall, you are there to lift them back up.
Also thank you for the Chrono Cross music
Omg, I relate to you so much. There was a time, especially when I was taking longer breaks from ow (aka a couple days), what always brought me back was exactly the same reason as you! I was playing to find that same nostalgic experience back in ow1. BUT YES enabling your team and feeling like you had impact >>>>>> main reason why I play support. But yeah, getting "forced" to play the "meta" heroes was just :/
Awww 🥹 ofc! Chrono Cross music just hits different 😌
Such a compelling journey. This was beautiful and I support that break from the game. I love overwatch so much and I would step back if I felt the way you did about it. Thank you so much for sharing your experience. It was really interesting.
Your comment means a ton, thank you :D
I feel the same about this video! A really well done one ❤️
My hope for 6v6 is the only reason i still play this game but i made the decision recently to just play a lot less. before it was everyday now its 3 times a week maybe
Oh what a day it would be if 6v6 returned tbh. More power to you for playing less tho :)
the way i’ve seen like 5 different people in the comments saying their journey started & ended w the release of ow2 💀 that’s….not a good thing lmfao rip
LMAOOO it definitely says something
As a Reinhardt main. I sympathize. I stopped playing a while back and felt exactly the same way. I was a main tank in OW1 and took pride in it, I loved the intense teamplay... Now the identity I enjoy roleplaying in OW has been gutted of its soul.
Thanks for sharing Feenix ❤ can relate to this on so many levels
I'm so glad you could
Ya, Overwatch 2 has been the only game in my life that makes me feel unhealthy.
my mental health improved like 10% after i stopped playing overwatch
I Didnt even quit, just one day i stopped playing and didnt launch the game again, its been 6 months now, wild
As a fellow GM/T500 player (though I played tank), same thing happened to me - took a break and realized I didn't even really like the game anymore and that break just got longer and longer until I barely cared. When I came back, I had no motivation to play or climb. It feels like a chore I'm forced to do. I don't know if it's the inferior ranked system, terrible reward incentives for play time or the gameplay loop changing, it's probably a combination of everything. I just stopped caring. Don't know how Blizzard managed to make me stop caring about a game I would play 8+ hours a day, but congrats, they managed to do it.
Here before this blows up
Same here ❤
I think the best way I can put it is that overwatch 2 just feels directionless and hollow with random change for the sake of change.
Directionless in the sense of pointless character redesigns, time of day changes that ruin art direction, how uncohesive hero select animations seem now, the new ranked system, 5v5 and game direction as a whole.
Hollow in how the monitization changes removed basically all forms of progression, the loss of PVE and any progression of lore, skins for the sake of a battle pass theme instead of things that fit the character.
I know most of these things are "trivial" but the game has slowly ship of Theseus's itself into a compelelty different experience I want no part in. I guess that's what happens when most of the old dev team leaves blizzard.
Comparing it to a similar shooter I love and still do Splatoon and how that series progressed foreward while maintaining the soul of the series makes me sad to see the state of OW.
I absolutely agree with how directionless and pointless ow2 became. Some kit reworks seemed a little like they did it for the sake of "change" rather than what was needed. Progression became bleh, and lots of other things.
12:10 this is so so agreable, i really miss overwatch 1, sure lots of cc, shield etc but there was so many thing to learn, and overwatch was my comfort game and same goes to mercy, her movement overall was so smooth, i wished i had more time and chance to learn it better back then, and big part also the fact that every celebration there is skins you can get for free essentially if you have enough coin, now you have to play, it sucks.
everything pretty locked behind walls, "new game" but they started bringing back cass flashbang and trying to make rein shield more tankier, like you might as well open back overwatch 1, all they do is lie and lie to make you come back. stressing over stats especially with characters like ana and kiriko is so relatable, i was initially gonna reach gold.. was close in overwatch 1 but didnt happen, i dont know im kinda yapping sorry, just feel unnecessary to hype ow2 anymore, with everything they didnt do.. plus in ow1 you can play qp and actually have fun, where if you see now, its just too many sweat, toxicity at its max, you cant even have place to practice hero you want without getting dump with bucket of crap..
thank you for sharing your opinion and experience feenix, it made me happy to know you not forcing yourself to play this game anymore and do what you actually want
YES overwatch 1, even if I reached the highest rank, I still felt like I had room to improve and that was the best part. I wanted to get better and it seemed like I could continuously grow :D unlike ow2 it just felt like I wasn't able to grow "better" without playing the "meta" heroes.
OMG BRING BACK LOOTBOXES LIKE PLEASE. The game was "pay to win" at some point when you had to buy the bp to unlock the new broken hero that recently released too it was ugh. They messed up balancing and going back to ow1 is their only solution 💀 ow2 is just simply not as fun. Don't apologize for yapping, Im doing a lot of that already LMAOO
I appreciate you listening to me and sharing your experience as well
Your explanation was precise and clear thank you sm hun u did ur best for ur friends and ur teammates but maybe it’s ok to just move on honestly life is about change…even with pink mercy the underlying problems are still there u still won’t be happy after awhile.
Thank you for your words
oh my god that kings row game brought me back… i miss it so much. it’s so miserable ive had to quit aswell.
now i love playing elden ring with a clear conscience - it’s fun but especially with coop
God I feel you there. I got elden ring yesterday so I'm trying to grind it myself too!
you thought you were addicted to Overwatch?? hahaha, just wait until ER clicks for you! now *thats* a game worth playing!!
gotta say tho, i felt that sentiment of yours where you said you lost all passion to play, let alone to improve. the stress of rank, the stats, dealing with toxicity and just general bullshit when life already has enough of that? yeah... it wasn’t fun, wasn’t worth it. it’s hard to find motivation when the game is unfun, unbalanced, counter-dependant, boring and unrewarding. none of my OG friends play anymore, and just the way it plays feels like an uncanny ghost of itself designed to waste my time and money (WHICH IT DID! we all paid for OW1 and they just straight up deleted our game like WTAF???)
…when i realised it would never be the same again, i tried to focus on having fun - until THAT feeling went away aswell, and i just could not find a genuine reason to play it at all after that. none. nothing. that shit is straight up mentally damaging now i swear lol
if you want to find passion for a game again, i promise you Elden Ring and other soulslikes are the experience you’re looking for. they are literal works of art. beautiful craftsmanship, a developer with a passion and an original team with a vision?!? never has a game made me feel like that. i really could go on forever but i shouldnt spoil. you’ll know what i mean when it hits you ;D
anyway, thanks for reading my wall. loved the vid, and i wish you the best post OW-addiction!
just remember- dont give up, skeleton!
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hehe ER is def my first souls game and I'm going in blind but I'll persevere! It looks amazing already and I can't wait to go deeper into it to see the bliss that is elden ring.
I'm glad you were able to relate a lot to my concerns playing as well, it's honestly really nice T^T It does sucks when a game becomes unfun and not worth to play anymore. I appreciate your comment sm! :D
Once OW1 got deleted so did my passion for it. I relate so much to this video and thank you for sharing your experience.
Thank you for watching! ^^ I'm happy to hear you related to my experience as well :)
“Just one more sadge Overwatch video before bed” ;-;
I fully agree with you. I lost my passion for this game completely. I was an off-tank player in ow1 (only main tank I really played was rein) and I loved how tanks synergized with each other. Being the only tank has been absolutely miserable. I will not return unless 6v6 comes back and if doesn't... oh well 🤷♂️
Ugh off-tank was an off role I loved playing back then too, such a shame they removed the dual tank synergy fr :(
I loved OW1, i really did even during Goats or 2x Shield i didnt care because i could atleast play what i wanted into that
OW2 ruined it, 5v5 ruined it and everything around the game just feels so dull, let me list things that made OW unfun for me
- Biggest one 5v5, less Teamplay, Tank is miserable, more Counterswaps, more Stomps, 1 Raid Boss tank that cant be 1v1 and just insane Cooldowns
- Ranked System switched from SR to Divisions, SR is way better imo because you can actually see when you will get the next rank or if youre Top 500 you can see how much SR you need to get there, it was also just mroe fun to see the Number go up everygame
- Removal of Account Levels / Portraits, OW2 currently gives the players 0 incentive to play besides the BP, but after 80 BP Levels youre done for the Season. OW1 always gave me an incentive regardless of what Season we were in, i could get free Rewards by leveling up or increase my Border Level, and i think OW2 really still misses something like that to keep players grinding
- The Soundtrack and the HUD are to "generic", OW1s play of the game theme is iconic, the trumpets and the epic feeling hitting was so amazing, OW2s theme isnt bad but its just a bad remix of the Original. Same thing with the HUD, its now so "modern" and has sharp edges which i dont like, or the Killfeed used to be bigger aswell, now its more compact and i sometimes dont even notice it tbh.
- Events, new OW1 events only really happened in its first year, but those original ones were miles better than a fucking Porsche Collab, Battle of Olympus or the Le SSarafim event. Lucioball, Junkenstein, Uprising, all felt bigger to me, they felt like the whole season revolves around them, they even changed lots of maps to fit the design, but now they just dont do that anymore.
- They removed our OW1s Ranked Statistics from our profile, this just shows you how little Blizzard cares about the Original Game that actually was good
- They turned Quick Play into a sweat fest, enforcing penalties for leaving 2 Games, banning people for saying "fuck" or "shit" and just overall removing Social Features like Global Chat or LFG
- Speaking of Social Features, them removing the End-Game Lobby and the Card Voting System made the game less fun to me, be it the occaisonal trash talk in ranked at the end or just connecting with other players, you cant do this anymore because Blizzard shoves the BP in your face after a game ends
- Some minor things, the new Ranked Icons look ugly and they dont even display them in your border when playing ranked
I dont know, this was my favourite game from 2016-2022, this was the best Mulitplayer experience i had and they ruined it. But even after saying all that stuff, if they would go back to 6v6 again, nerf Heroes correctly and make it work, i would be all over it again, i would grind like crazy.
So I hope Aaron addresses 6v6 and says they will consider it
I 100000% agree with every point you presented here. Ow2 became counter-watch LOL. I ALSO miss the sr system; something about it was more satisfying to watch than the current division bar thingy. Oh the lovely level borders, I'm sad they turned it into "progression" levels (I believe that's what they're called) and it's barely shown to other players unless you look into someone's profile (which 90% are set on private!!!). The HUD looking less "smooth." THE EVENTS UGH they just don't hit the same anymore. I barely played any of the new ones bc they looked boring unlike in ow1. And qp becoming sweaty like comp just 💀 THE END CARDS MY BELOVED. And the missing ranks on your border oml yes.
A lot of things were taken out that made the game special, and they really messed up doing that and playing it off as a "new" game.
The more I read about this comment, the more I missed ow1. We need it again.
its looking good for the community, more and more videos coming out from the casual and pro players on this game and state. and now we are getting Aaron to talk about 6v6 this week I think. I don't know what he is going to say, but as days go by the more people are pushing for a better game.
so many sentiments that are the same, so many facts are said, so many things that were taken away for the sake of "updating". and we have people saying incorrect nonsense about the game is good
@@finalbark462 I just want them to try 6v6 again and actively balance it for like 4 Months, if they dont bring back 2x Shield (which isnt even really possible) people will realize 6v6 is good
Especially as soon as players realize tank is more fun but also more killable, right now Orisa would die after what? 10 Junkrat grenades? In 6v6 she has so much less HP/armor and less dmg reduction, she should die after 5-6
The next dev blog and their stance on 6v6 determines if i will stay or uninstall for good
2016 OW1 beta here. I'm a point where I just hop on Overwatch every now and then. I've been playing my other three games that I also play often: HSR, Genshin, and Destiny. At the time of this comment, community creator patch is still going on. And I went back to playing OW and having so much fun, after not playing it for a month. It felt refreshing and gameplay loop felt so much fun for me. Too bad it's limited time.
At this point, there's just nothing for me to look forward to.
- 5v5 gameplay loop is more stale compared to 6v6. 6v6 should just come back. It's clear 5v5 cannot survive long term
- On top with 5v5 issues, tanks feels even more worst to play. This also leads to supports and dps not feeling satisfied to play.
- 90% of OW2 cosmetics are expensive and locked behind paywalls where before we could earn them by playing
- More skin recolors but still locked behind paywall
- no level borders
- no new lores onto Overwatch universe and heroes
- PvE, the biggest reason of OW2 exists has been officially scrapped
- No lfg feature
- Workshop being neglected more
Overwatch 2 is your typical free-to-play live-service game that is design to milk as much money as possible. The only update I see comes from the monetization which that kills the rewards by just playing the game. And it sucks because Overwatch 1 was not like that. There were more care being put onto the Ip and players were the main focus. I would rather have lootboxes to keep earning rather than what we have in Overwatch 2.
But apologies for the long comment, just want to get these thoughts/experiences towards Overwatch. I have tried other games like Apex and Valorant but it still feels like there are no games like Overwatch. There's no Tracer, no Kiriko, Doomfist, no Winston, all of my favorite heroes I play. The universe in Overwatch is beautiful as well.
Omg hsr and genshin my beloved!! Hehe, you're more than welcome to add me if you'd like :) But don't apologize for the long comment, I appreciate you being open with your thoughts and experiences towards the game, and I agree with every point you've made. I've noticed ow2 definitely felt more catered to bringing in as much money as possible, while also disregarding the f2p experience in a way :/ I miss my lootboxes 😔
Overwatch is definitely the most unique and fun game I've ever played, but who knows if it'll ever be repaired.
@@feenixsarchive Definitely agree with the unique and fun game part. We were all there at the golden age. Community was thriving and positive. People talked about the game, Overwatch universe and its lores, the heroes, getting better at the game, esports scene, and even animated cinematics that felt special back then. It was a really good time to be part of an Overwatch community that time. Overwatch has that special magic that brings all the communities together.
It's sad that we won't able to see what Overwatch could've been. But who knows? Maybe they'll finally realize the old golden era of Overwatch back then. Sometimes it's okay to go back to the drawing board and see what was done well.
In the meantime, I'm excited for Natlan in Genshin. I'll be sure to add you soon!
@@ninthfriend3347 Ugh take me back to the golden era of overwatch fr, those were the days. I hope they'll look back and try their best to revive or fix the game, but who knows how well they'll do it or if they'll even care enough to try to bring it back to its former glory. We can only wait and see.
Hehe, I added you! I am excited to see Natlan too :D
The number thing is so true. . I focused on my stats so much even tho i was fine. I slowly realized they truly didnt matter bc i could have all the kill, the best healing and still lose. I start to question my skill, my enjoyment and everything i tried working towards. The game made me feel hopeless and i start to notice my attitude changed aswell. From easy-goung, carefree and only wanting to have a good time to overly competitive, toxic and harsh on myself. Its so weird how i grew up on this game and how it affected me.
Ugh I felt every single word from this comment. I'm glad, and also sorry, you had to experience what I also had to go through
And 5v5ers will say that 6v6 wasn't good and all of us have nostalgia and rose tinted glasses for ow1, the problem isn't nostalgia, the problem is the format that forces you to counterswap constantly, as Flats said, team 4 originally mentioned that they wanted to keep the option to main a character (because they knew there were a lot of otp's), then, when they weren't able to maintain that condition, they changed the argument that it was intended for players to switch characters.
Team 4 can't accept their errors, they will do whatever they could to simply not accept that they messed up, an example of this is when they ignored the community asking for 6v6 (subject that luckily seems that they are going to talk about sooner or later).
In conclussion, what made overwatch feel so unique was the strong and weak points of every character that in a symmetric format (6v6) each one could cover the weakness of the other, by removing a tank, now the game forces you to focus the weakness of the remaining one since they buffed them so hard that there's no other option, then with the new format a lot of other issues have occurred also, and the solution for blizz was to buff other roles in an infinite cycle of stubbornness against accepting that they did something wrong in the first place.
New players might like the game at it's current state (since the only thing you need to do is to know each character's counter and the skill level has dropped a lot (bigger hitboxes and hitscans having more angles caused by the missing tank)), but for ow1 veterans the game feels boring.
At this point if there was an option to play 6v6 even with double shields and longer queues, I'd gladly take that 100 times than playing a single match of counterwatch.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts :) I completely stand by everything you said. Team 4 being stubborn and not fixing their errors, counterwatch being unfun, the lowering of skill on basically every character, big sigh all around tbh
This is me on so many levels. I was never all that good at OW but I loved the first game. My parents bought me the game of the year addition for Christmas and I played the hell out of it for at least a year, becoming a Hanzo main that people actually thought was good and competent at my job. I fell out of love for OW after a while and took an extended break from it. When I decided to come back out of nostalgia, I found out that OW 1 was gone. It was taken down and replaced by OW 2. Ever since then I've been extremely on and off with the game. I'll reinstall it for a few months, play on and off, but then decide that actually I don't like OW 2 and uninstall it again. It doesn't feel the same, it doesn't feel fun. It feels like microtransaction hell, it feels like a pointless grind, it feels empty
This omg. It felt like the life/fun of the game was drained out, and it was a shell of what it was. It's such a shame 😔
I'm the kind of player that gets the most out of a game when I play with my friends so when I reinstalled ow for my friends I thought it would make the game feel better. It definitely beats playing alone but I still feel so unmoved whether we win or lose and I too realized that even my friends couldn't magically fix the game for me. I've experienced this same thing with league of legends and I've just concluded that I must have "fallen out of love" with these games. There's something magical about getting into a game and wanting to learn everything about it but these online multiplayers inevitably change for better or worse. Now I kinda just play occasionally when someone asks me to hop on so we can have something that everyone can play and I think that's as good as it gets. Just a game to have in the background.
Ugh, I totally get your experience all too well. It always sucks when a multiplayer game "falls off," and not even friends can help bring it back up. I hope there's other games you can find with your friends to have fun and play with :D
I can really relate to the idea of the characters you play holding you back in certain situations but not wanting to play the stronger characters because you simply don't find them fun.
The way you described it as a drag is exactly how I feel about that dynamic with OW2. A game is meant to be fun and when part of the games premise is pick whoever character you want to play out of this large roster, and then you do that only for the game scenario to basically say "well actually you can't choose that character this match if you want to be able to play the game," it just feels awful.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts :) The whole thing where you are inclined to play a certain pool of characters in order to be "able to play" and also win (counter swapping for instance) just takes away how vast the hero roster actually is. It definitely feels limiting at points when it feels like there's one "right" character to play in a certain scenario.
I understand your perspective and I think it’s a natural response to playing the same game for so long. I haven’t quit the game because I still enjoy learning heroes I haven’t played before but I think one of the big issues that’s really unsolvable about this game is that it’s sweaty no matter what game mode you’re in. Whether you’re playing unranked or competitive it all feels the same and whenever you’re doing something difficult/competitive nearly 100% of the time it’s bound to feel like a chore. The only thing that really fixes it is to (1) stop caring about rank/stats or (2) just take a break from the game or have a backup game that’s relaxing to you
Thank you for your thoughts :D I absolutely agree that the game is sweaty no matter the gamemode, I started noticing it when playing qp with my friends. I'm glad you're still enjoying and learning the game tho :) I definitely think I tried both of the "fixes" you provided, but it only really solidified me to just quit unfortunately :/
@@feenixsarchive yeah way easier said than done I agree. those “fixes” are just what I end up telling myself when the going gets tough 😂
I started my experience purchasing the deluxe edition of a 6v6 double shield game in 2017, I later also bought the PvE expansion for the “new game”, and I even became a Hanzo main in early OW2 by putting an insane amount of time practicing some high risk high reward flick ~predict headshots.
I feel so fucking betrayed.
NAUR the PvE expansion was actually such a let down, and they discontinued it, it's actually such a disappointment to all who bought it. We all feel betrayed by the game in a way.
As a mercy main I feel your pain
I can do absolutely relate, to just about everything.
I played tank since s9 ow1, I wanted to get better, see improvement, and see numbers go up.
I remember starting as a silver player and just wanting to get to plat, my friends and I would grind for many sleepless nights to make it happen.
When I hit low masters at the end of overwatches life cycle, I felt genuinely good about my progress, but then I learned of my tank buddies never being able to play with me again.
The game immediately felt less fun because I essentially lost a friend with one change to the game.
And it’s not like we can just play ow1.
I remember starting groups to play in as many games with as many people with mics as I could, there are no more players with mics. No more community, no more fire for getting better among the broader majority of players.
I used to pick this game up here and there, but I can’t remember the last time I played anymore.
I miss my favorite game
I absolutely felt you there. The passion of grinding to get better disappeared. It felt like the community no longer had the passion either as no one wanted to use their mics. It just felt dry. Soulless. I miss my favorite game too :(
Glad I'm not the only one. I picked up OW1 in Summer 2019 and loved it. I was excited to play every day, I loved grinding comp and doing everything I could to improve my gameplay. Even when I went on loss streaks and dealt with toxic teammates, I still wanted to play. When lockdown hit, I joined a grassroots league and played even more, getting up at 8AM to practice with my team every day for hours, running scrims throughout the weeks. We swept our division 29-1, I still think fondly of a ridiculous strat we pulled off on King's Row during an official match. I have 1400 hours.
Now it only takes a few matches of qp to take the wind out of my sails, even when playing with friends. I only really play OW a few times over the course of a couple weeks and then I drop it again for a few months. It's just not really fun anymore and I'm not sure why. I wish I still loved this game.
I felt you there :((( Ugh, those scrims must've been so much fun too from what I can tell. The competitive drive just went poof in ow2 and it's just not as fun anymore, which really really sucks to this day. I miss the game I fell in love with.
No way you liked 2019-2020 overwatch it was the worst
@@omarpro1495 If I'd played before 2019, I prolly wouldn't have liked 2019-2020 lol
I have been playing OW since 3 months after it released and played consistently for 3 years then like you stopped playing it for 3 years a little because I was bored, but mostly because of connectivity issues that only seemed to affect OW and no other games on my console. I can't back because of the promise of PVE and because I still loved the game. Sorry for the long back story, but my main question is how do you rank up. At my highest I was plat, but each season it feels like the game has gotten harder. The previous season, I dropped from rank 1 gold to rank 1 silver and I can't rank back up.
Ugh, the connectivity issues are actually such a struggle I get that. I used to lag a TON back in ow1 it happened so much I kinda got used to it. And don't apologize for your long backstory :)
I unfortunately don't know what main role(s) you play, so I can't necessarily give you accurate or helpful advice, but I'd say try to improve on the base things. Mechanics (aim), positioning, and overall game sense. Try and find your weakest aspect in your gameplay and improve on it :)
Your reasoning is totally understandable. In the transition to OW2 I too felt the difference, and the game felt like is more soulless. I still play the game to this day (because I still like it), but not as much as I used to do.
I'm glad to hear some people do still like the game, but yeah, it just doesn't hit the same 😔
The part were she says that she wasn't really needed felt so crushing idk why it made me feel that way. 20:28
I understand how that feels kinda the same but now I only join with certain friends so I'll just mess around to make them laugh. I stopped playing for like a year or so I forgot what year because of multiple reasons.
That's honestly so fair. Playing with friends does make the ow experience a little better I must say.
Jesus this makes me feel old. I was 25 when OW1 came out, and I was HOOKED. For a couple years at least, and then it started getting stale. I came back into Overwatch in 2022 just before OW2 was supposed to to lunch. I feel like I've been chasing that high from 8 years ago, and it just isn't there anymore. I get glimmers of it every once in a while, and the battle passes would keep me grinding, but after almost two years, I feel like it's time to let it go again. RIP to what could've been a game in the GOAT conversation, if it were taken care of the way it deserved to be from day one.
Trying to chase after the glimmer from 8 years ago is so real, I felt that deeply. Oh to dream of what the days would've been like if the game didn't lose itself in its prime form
@@feenixsarchive Agreed. I'm sure all of us, the current devs, and Jeff Kaplan himself all daydream about what OW could've been, if only they had the right support and longterm plan from day one. Such a fun cast of characters and universe too to go to waste.
Thanks for sharing your experience with this vid, it really resonated with me.
Ofc! And I appreciate your thoughts and experiences as well :)
As someone who has been playing so long I have the pre-order widow skin from 1, I understand everything without you having to say anything. Even the part about mercy being comfy because of not having to aim lmao. I don't play anymore either I'm just watching them try to put out the fire (been a rein mein since season 2 of OG so I felt the pain especially hard).
Also did not expect ff8 music when I clicked on the video.
Haha I've def still been watching on the sidelines to see what they're doing with the game, and it's still making me shake my head LOL man I miss my rein mains 😔 they were the most based players but they started disappearing after ow2.
LMAO ff8 music is so good I had to
@@feenixsarchive Honestly I haven't played for like a year but I've kept it installed, now that Aron said they're gonna talk about 6v6 next directors blog I'm just waiting for that and will hit the uninstall button forever depending on how it goes. Also mercy mains used to be the voice in reason in overwatch, in 2 they all left and now we just get toxic mercies sob.
Obligatory FITHOS. LUSEC. WECOS. VINOSEC.
Yeah, I've caught wind of 6v6 making it's ultimate return! Depending on how people react to it once it does come back I might try the game again? I highly doubt it, but I'll never know lol. Omg I've heard of more toxic mercy players making their appearance and I'm just 😭 where did all the nice ones go I swear.
Started OW soon after launch.
I was a bastion/rien/mercy main.
Weird set of characters but I was a flex player.
Played the game until a bit after the release of Echo.
Maaannn I loved this game in it's prime. I had fun doing really dumb things in game and successfully calling out Plays of the gane before they happened. It was fun.
I tried to get back into OW2 when it launched but yikes.....
It's not easy.
I played for like 2 months and I could tell something was wrong. The game didn’t feel fun. It was just too much for a returning player like myself.
Queues? Set roles? Getting flamed in QP for playing a character I haven't played in literal years?
Ugh, when did the "fun" leave the game?
Nowadays, I sit back and watch the drama, the toxicity, the sadness, and the numbing acceptance of other players still hanging around, and I'm glad I pulled out when I did.
It's sad. I liked overwatch...
I definitely miss the prime of overwatch just as much as anyone else. The casual scene in ow2 completely shifted to something competitive, which didn't make sense even to me bc there's a literal mode to be competitive in LMAO the fun and perks of overwatch disappeared and I wish that wasn't the case fr. We shall see how the ow2 team handles the game from here :)
This is heartbreaking😭💔. I can’t see my life without Mercy, ever.
That’s actually insane knowing a lot of kids grew up on overwatch. I remember grinding the beta when I was 21 lmao now I’m 30. 8 years came and went. Pretty cool knowing so many people loved this game I’m just glad it did happen because I had 5 years of fun tell the dark age took over in 2021 and it’s still going 😢
Yeah 8 years flew by VERY QUICKLY. It was fun while it lasted for sure. I hope the dark age for you passes over tho 😌
@@feenixsarchive I say dark age as in it just doesn’t feel like a competitive game anymore lol. You can still have fun for a few hours though. It’s not like other fps games that get boring after a week of play time
OHHH i catch what you're saying now. With that then yes I definitely agree it does not feel as competitive anymore, but I know for some the game is still fun and enjoyable at some points :)
@@feenixsarchive Getting a stack of friends or viewers and rolling ranked in low elo is actually the only way to play laughs. Definitely should give it a go
haha, will keep that in mind!
I didn't get into ow until a few weeks before ow2 was announced. I enjoyed the small bit of ow1 I played with friends. Ow2 came out, and I started having to learn the game, so playing with friends became less and less. I tried the "i'll play comp to get better, and to also grind up to play with my friends" (not knowing they were meaning never playing comp with me, not just because new to comp). But comp made me hate the game more. Playing by myself now, I outright despise the game. I only force myself to play the game so I get on my computer. If I don't, my computer just sits and collects dust since my single friend group has drifted apart. I may just hate the game because playing it alone sucks, but the thought of Overwatch is nice, but the game isn't worth it anymore
That's a very interesting experience, thank you so much for sharing ^^ I've mainly solo q'd a lot during ow1 and had a duo here and there too, and it was honestly not that bad, which definitely helped me enjoy the game a lot more too. But ow2 solo q is actually just pain and suffering for some reason so I definitely get where you're coming from.
@feenixsarchive Q'ing with friends takes some of the misery off of it. Solo q in ow2 I imagine is worse because it feels so much less social even with the minimal experience I have with ow1. Ow1, having world chat and just random conversations to laugh with, made it feel more like a game with people instead of an offline game against bots. It's sad seeing how Ow2 is vs. what it once was :/. Maybe one day they might be able to repair it, but I highly doubt it
Yes I totally agree with it becoming less social. I've noticed once ow2 released, voice chat in comp became basically BARREN. In ow1 you're expected to hear at least one person in voice chat especially in higher ranks, but in ow2 there's expected to be silence, and that really took away the competitive-ness of the game too. Idk if ow2 will be "fixed" again, but here's to coping 🍻
@feenixsarchive ow2 vc is if people aren't silent, then they are telling people to neck themselves. Qp is treated as comp with some. "Qp isn't for screwing around, custom and arcade is." I've seen funny ow1 clips of people actually having fun, but I play peak a boo mirroring a widow and "I'm reported." I play sombra in qp, and my team tells me to go off myself. Ow2 is more toxic also at times. I'm huffing a metic ton of copium with the hopes that they will make it better (remove Stat board etc) but it's more important to put junk filler seasons instead of doing anything to help. 6v6 may help if they do, idk. But the Stat board overshadows everything because toxic and numbers are being seen as so important. It took them how many seasons to make comp more understandable to people?
Oh yeah I completely get what you're saying. The stat board has definitely played a part in creating the toxic environment of ow2, I wonder if there's a real solution to it at all :/
I play the game casually only quick play and taking months long breaks . Which is why I am not exactly burned out, I think that's most people enjoy it now. Not a serious game
I never really played overwatch 1 and i loved overwatch 2 back when i started a while ago and i practically played everything every day and now im sitting here thinking about if i ACTUALLY had fun or not, was i just playing because of my friends or did i play because i liked it, well atleast nowatimes i cant play this game more than 1 hour, i wished i would have heard of overwatch way earlier in the ow1 times
sounds similar to how/why i dropped the game as well. one day i both the game for like 15E and another day i just never opened OW2.
The music made me feel so nostalgic about OW1, great choices ❤
I'm glad ^^
i used to be in the scrim scene in ow1 and i deeply relate to your experiences. There used to be legions of players that wanted to get better and spent thousands of hours of our lives pursuing that goal in scrims and tournaments across the globe. Blizzard killed the passion of thousands of players with ow2, including myself. The only thing left to do now is to just move on. At least until Blizzard starts to love and care for this game the same way we used to
Sigh, we can only hope that Blizzard will fix their mistakes, but I think the damage is already done
Crazy how much I can relate to this video
Great video
I'm glad you could ^^ thank you!
I feel the same, my passion for the game is no longer here... Now I'm only playing to not miss some skins in case 6v6 come back...
I have been barely playing recently and the other day I just uninstalled. Until I see positive changes I'm just done. Been playing since 2016
We're in the same boat fr
Great thing about gaming is that there is so much to play now that leaving one game doesn't have to be so bittersweet
My friend group and I used to be smash sweats but almost all of us got sick and tired of Smash and we moved on to FPS shooters and other fighting games
In short, uhhhh, variety is the spice of life and spicing up your gaming sessions with new games definitely keeps gaming as it should be, a fun hobby
As someone who had been playing since ow1 beta it feels like the small nunaces of ow1 are gone. It feels like the solution to everything now is just hard swapping ,especially as someone who used to play alot of tanks. I haven't been able to bring myself to care about the game ever since mauga came out, and they decided to make projectile sizes bigger. Nothing makes me sadder than feeling apathetic towards a game i used to mainline.
I felt this sm. Counter swapping takes away the fun of the game tbh, and you're not able to play who you want to 😔
Never got to play Overwatch until 2 came out because little kid me didn't want to spend money. I downloaded it week 1 as I always heard about the love the game got back in 1 and I had always been interested in class-based games like Plants vs Zombies Garden Warfare. I was instantly hooked on the tank role and later became mainly a Doomfist one trick (they get a lot of bad rep, I know). I absolutely love his abilities, his character, and enjoy watching content around him from other creators like Zbra and Quake.
I'm not the craziest player. I still play on a controller despite switching to a PC about a year and a half ago. I only have a little over 100 hours in comp and I'm so close to reaching Diamond 2, solo queueing for the most part. Maybe my opinion isn't as valid because of my lower rank. But something just feels different from when i first started playing in season 1?? I can't really explain it. The more I play my little one trick Doom I start to realize "wow, this tank sucks". Unless I'm some crazy player like Zbra or Quake it feels like I'm FORCED to play Mauga, Hog, or whatever the hell the "meta" is.
Again, maybe it's just me. Maybe it's because I'm on a controller and can't hit half my peashooter damaging Doom shots lol. But it just feels miserable playing tank in general. I really hope something changes soon regarding tanks besides of just adding more random passives. This was a really nice video to watch, especially being able to see the game from a support main perspective rather than the usual tank player.
Honestly, I applaud you for being a doom one trick (bc he's def not the best, but not the worst tank either), altho they were the bane of my existence LOL btw, just bc you're "lower" rank (even tho diamond 2 is pretty high tbh), your opinion and experience is just as valid dw :) The thing with one tricking I found is that if you're not insane at the character, you're bound to fall victim to the stronger heroes to win more games and not get flamed. I appreciate your comment ^^
This sounds a lot like my experience.
I was originally an Xbox player who started playing to hide from IRL problems. I met a bunch of friends online and really enjoyed grinding and playing with them as we all learned and a handful of us reaching top 500 (me on tank). I remember those eager days to get home and log on where we would all chat in discord all day waiting for the next bunch of games we would play, we even participated in console tournaments.
Eventually during the content lull a few people left the game and it was just me and my tank duo with an occasional support friend mixed in. I eventually made the switch to PC in the last few seasons of OW1 and peaked around diamond.
Fast forward to OW2 as a former top 500 tank main, I do not enjoy the tank experience. I used to have a 2nd tank to share the 6 CC’s I had coming my way while now I'm alone to take all 5, every loss no matter what I do I get spammed “tank diff” and I occasionally get suspended for throwing despite typically holding a 55% or better win rate.
I just don't enjoy the game anymore, I am expected to do the job of 2 without any help, I get all the blame and most importantly I am no longer able to duo up with my friend where we could control the game place and in comms by having everyone coalesce behind the tanks plans. Now it feels like with how the meta forces team composition and with counterpicking as bad as it is the game has devolved into a 4v4 team Deathmatch with the tanks sitting off to the side in a CC chain for the DPS to charge ultimates on.
I am finding myself playing less and less and I just don't see it ever getting better since they basically took a very unique game and highjacked the franchise to make a shop tailored to the lowest players who will mindlessly spend money on skins and will ditch the game at the drop of a hat for a new fad so an ow1 OG tank main like me can screw off since I'm clearly not wanted or appreciated anymore. It's kind of sad with the history of the game and what this game meant to me helping me navigate my trauma years ago.
Sorry for the long post
No, don't apologize for the long post. I love reading everyone's stories so I appreciate you being open about your experience :) Ow for me definitely was an escape from whatever school stress I was feeling, so I definitely understand escaping IRL for a bit to have some fun.
I absolutely felt you on how ow2 feels like team deathmatch. It's the most accurate description I feel and tanks feel like such an important role, but they carry so much responsibility and burden in a team fight. They're expected to make space and get kills, but also peel for the backline at the same time and also not get absolutely MELTED within a second. It's a hard role for just one person which is why I highly believe the tank role NEEDS the other tank back in a 6v6 setting. We'll see how they handle on bringing 6v6 back :)
@@feenixsarchive thank you for the words of support, curious if I ever ran into you back in the Xbox days, the GM/Top 500 circle wasn't too huge :)
Anyway I hope you stay away and don't get tempted, idk why I keep logging in when I know what awaits me, I guess I just can't fully let go so I run back to the abuse.
True! I wonder if we ever did meet in a game long long ago haha. I hope you break out of the cycle of logging back in tho, the pain and suffering must come to a stop at some point LMAOOO but gl in your games 🫡
This describes my experience too, in some ways. I stopped feeling the desire to play every day about a year before OW1 ended though. I think the lack of interest from the devs and the community being not well because if it somehow ruined the charm back then. I loved the game, currently I have almost 3k hours in the game, most of which are from OW1. OW2 came out and it felt new, kinda, but not really. I stopped playing except a little bit here and there. I decided that I wouldn't play unless I wanted to. After a year of that, I finally feel like playing again, but not really because of the balance. The game feels anxiety inducing. It doesn't seem like it is going to improve. The devs seem misguided in their notion of what they think good balance for the game should be, and honestly, I think its always been that way, even in OW1 days. Either they made the game with one premise for balance and changed it or, they accidentally got it right and had no clue why when they launched OW1. They systematically removed what was good about the game. The devs may go back to 6 v 6, we'll see. If they don't understand why the game is bad right now, they might not do well in the 6 v 6 (better) format either. I just want Marvel Rivals to come out and I am tired of hoping the OW devs will figure it out and being let down for years. They mean well, but they didn't deserve the game they made. Poor custodians in OW1, and poor vision the entire time, they took the best videogame ever made and somehow found a way to ruin it. I love them because I know they love us and the game, but I'm upset with them because they just cannot do right by the game, no matter how good their intentions are. Something is wrong at the core. I miss the old days of looking forward to playing the game at any moment I could and wanting to improve to be my very best.
I absolutely feel you there. The dev team has mainly been the biggest cause for the game's downfall, and I can only watch from the side as I see what they have in store for 6v6 potentially coming back. I wonder how successful they'll be trying to bring back ow's charm.
Being a “Mercy main” has a bad connotation for some people, probably because of Blizzard having things like mass rez, moth meta valk, etc., but what people forget is that Mercy takes skill. Just a different kind of skill. You don’t always need to aim like a Tracer or Widow to be good at OW. Your positioning, cooldown usage, determine who/when to heal/dmg boost, ult usage, ult tracking, etc all played a part in how good a player is. It’s why Monkey/Reinhardt are high skill heroes even though they don’t require aim yet they’re also easy to pick up and play- they’re amazing hero designs because they’re easy to learn hard to master. Then OW added things that skipped this learning curve and had no downsides, the first sign of this was Moira but she “had no utility” so it wasn’t too egregious, but we let it slide so we got Brig and then a steady crash in the game’s quality for years after that. The game is now about denial, standing main instead of making plays, and counterpicking. Every hero now is a Brig with a kit so complete without weaknesses and button press for free value abilities. Mercy is a big loser in 5v5 and I feel bad for those that mained her. Hopefully they turn it around one day.
Bring back 6v6 and save the game!
YES the fact that ow was based on how well someone could play their hero, without the emphasis of aim, made it that much more unique and fun. Though with ow2, I definitely think it turned into a "typical" fps game where you needed to focus on aiming and securing picks more than anything. Which hero provided the most impact by just EXISTING just made it so... bland idk. Thank you for your thoughts :)
@@feenixsarchiveYep I just finished the video and I resonate with it so much, even though for me the game came out when I was halfway through college and I main Genji/Doom. I had just built my PC that summer and the first games I got were OW/PUBG. PUBG was a glitchy mess and I was terrible at KBM aim since I also came from Xbox so dealing with the harsh recoil and playing solo was just not that fun. So as a lifetime FPS player I found myself playing more and more OW and gravitating towards Reinhardt since I loved to be a good teammate and lead the charge and he was a great hero to become more comfortable with KBM on. Then I figured out how much I loved Genji and watched the OWWC 2017 USA vs South Korea and got deep into the competitive scene. The love went deep from there. Then ever since Brig’s release in 2018 it’s just been one big downhill slope with them scrambling to recover, but I had always held out hope it could be turned around. Now, I finally have lost hope and don’t even enjoy the game anymore. Hopefully they start reconsidering design choices and bring back 6v6 because the game I loved more than any other is completely gone. Sorry for the rant but it’s interesting to hear from others who feel the same- the game lost its soul.
@@GraphiteBlimp27 Thank you for sharing your story and experience playing ow :D It is really such a shame seeing a game lose its soul and therefore our love for it running out. I wish it didn't end up that way deep down.
You're not alone and you summed it up pretty much same as me. It has lost it's magic. They have gotten rid of so much skill expression for the sake of making it accessible. Heroes are more powerful than ever so much so it feels like you're losing to the heroes and not the player. They completely destroyed a role I loved to play in OW1, gutted so many play styles. Modern overwatch is just a dumbed down shell of the game we all loved and grinded for hours on end.
YES THANK YOU! You bring up a really good point that making heroes more "easy" and "accessible" to new players really took away some of the charm of the game for sure I think. When it's the hero's fault but not the player, man, it really sucks.
OW2 feels so soulless to me, just seeing the old HUD in this video makes me miss OW1 T_T
I was a Winston main In Gold and Plat. The game is literally the same for me, I never got support from my Dva or Zarya in those elos. Nobody played Ana because she was impossible to play on Console back then with lower projectile size and weaker allied aim assist and smaller hitboxes. When Brig was good with Winston people literally didn't know how to play her. The Zen, Lucio Dive was a throw pick in low elo when it was meta. I got hard countered every game, Reaper, Bastion, Hog, Mei, Torb, just every single game if I played well. The awful spam maps are gone and there are way more open dive maps style maps than before even though the majority are still ground based Rush maps. Support immediately felt different though I can see why people might miss the old Support gameplay.
I started playing and still play to this day because of one reason, Reaper. The game IS worse than before, but I still have my Reaper. I don't want to play overwatch, I want to play Reaper and Reaper only (for the most part).
I broke my skill plateau within the last year of Overwatch 1. Hit the technical t500 of the time. The entire time, there was nagging voices within the game chat & my mind telling me I didn't deserve it; didn't earn it. I was a Console Player, & I came late to this game, near the 2 2 2 introduction. After i peaked somewhere around 3.8 - 3.9, something just snapped. I didnt care anymore. I reached my peak. Everyone else i played was miles better, or hell, sometimes even cheating.
That's what made me quit. After you hit your peak, what is there for you? I only touch customs now.
Everyone was starting to quit at the time I got my highest peak. I felt as if I accomplished something amazing, but given the circumstances, it felt as though it was unearned. Hearing players like you peak so high so consistently makes me a bit envious. I wish I had the skill & people around me to push me up the ranked ladder.
I think I was here for the grind. Once that was gone, when I knew I'd have to put my life into this grind, I stopped. I realized it wasn't worth the stress.
You hear so much nonsense coming from this game. "This is META!" "cheaters running galore!!" "Buy this skin!!!" ; it's exhausting.
Now that I'm away from the noise, I feel as though I noticed that it's a bit of a universe in itself. Contained madness. Once you're away from it, you'll realize just how futile much of your struggle was.
No bc that's how I felt back more in ow2 than anything. I reached my peak of gm3 in support and realized i was no match to anyone that was higher than that, and i at points didn't think i deserved my rank either, but i was staying in it very consistently so it was very confusing.
Once you start realizing that it's not worth the stress trying to grind higher than your peak, that's definitely where you start becoming more indifferent and stop caring as much. Once the grindset is gone, it's kinda peaceful :)
I can relate to being held back by what you pick instead of how you play and not wanting to grind meta heroes.
Omg YES I'm glad you get it too. It's quite unfortunate really :(
I relate with this video so hard. Thank you.
Thank you for watching and relating to it :)
dudeee i feel this!! i main lifeweaver and i literally cannot play him without "throwing," despite averaging high healing and assists. it especially sucks because of how extensive my knowledge is on his kit. you aren't playing bap, zen, lucio, or kiri, youre throwing and it suuuuuuckkkkksssss D:
YESSSSSS exactly! And I think lifeweaver can be a very strong support bc of how much he can save teammates from sticky situations and how well he can sustain people if played correctly. But bc he's not meta, he's hated on and sucks :(
@@feenixsarchive i know right! to prove a point, a few seasons back, i reached grandmasters only playing him and still didnt change the minds of a lot of people :')
They're just stubborn frfr 😔 Your lifeweaver ROCKS I just know tho hehe
So from what I’m understanding ow1 mercy 1 trick dislikes ow2 because her hero pool was not big enough and now shows stats across teammates, showing how much her team is doing versus her. Tbh, understandable. I love ow but I like playing the heroes I want to play and spent time learning. When those heroes aren’t good I just take a break until they are viable. The stat board has both been a blessing and a curse. Honestly I would be okay just getting rid of it just for the fact of it being useless and a good way to cause tilt amongst players
Yes! I think the whole point of a game, even competitively, is to learn and have fun in the end, and if you can't then, it's not really a game anymore. They changed the stat board to create more I THINK "transparency" between teammates and enemies (and removed rank icons BC of toxicity LMAO), but it kinda brought more problems than anything at least for me.
Yeah honestly I miss my tank duo we did so well together and we had fun now we both barely play it sucks these devs need to open their eyes this game won’t last without change and new stuff or bringing back old stuff that people loved
I 100% relate to your journey, especially during covid albeit as a dps player instead. I did really enjoy flexing to Ana on support as to me she is such a cool concept for a "healer" in a shooter. It felt like even if didn't dps or hit crazy sleeps (I did, my Ana was S tier fr), you could still get value.. Hitting a big nade was so much harder and 10x more rewarding than in OW2 where Kiriko just comes in from Narnia and pressing E on the ground...
It's such a snooze fest of what feels like you have to work MUCH less for value in the grand scheme, which just creates this deathmatchy feel to every single game mode. Mind you I enjoy deathmatch in the arcade section, but the complexity of tank synergies and support synergies and making sure to cover bases with a dps line up in case of flyer heroes etc. was so much more diverse and complex.
Shame that we lost a great thing, that although not as main stream as some fps titles out there (that's okay, Overwatch can be niché), it had a devout fanbase, that it just feels like they took a big fat dookie on with OW2 to try to rake in as many new players as possible to replace their loyal fanbase for years..
The last point of trying to bring in many new players and practically neglecting the original fanbase is SO REAL. I remember them specifically changing mercy a ton so she's easier to pick up for new players (even tho she was already easy to pick up in general). Yes, I agree the new synergies of team play in ow2 kinda feels like a deathmatch and feels like you need to work much harder to get value OR just abuse a character which makes the game SUPER easy, which sucks.
I started playing overwatch back in 2018 and fell in love with the game and more specifically Lucio. I’ve onetricked Lucio since 2019 with an unhealthy amount of hours into him. The reason I loved him so much was his ability to fall into different playstyles. (and movement XD) I was a “Reddit Lucio” being able to play aggressive and back up our tanks while our other support was able to focus our DPS. I would mostly focus speeding our tanks into and outta combat and booping enemies into them while making my own plays in the back lines.
When OW2 rolled around I was excited to play the little aggressive frog I loved, but I couldn’t play him in the way I enjoyed anymore. Playing “Reddit Lucio” didn’t give good results and ended up feeling like throwing the more I did it. I have found certain ways to force that play style but I can only play the way I enjoy with a full 5 stack. I think it’s because team play isn’t playing as a team anymore. It’s a team that all goes for their own plays.
To me it feels like they removed a huge part of skill expression. The people who knew the little details of their characters were able to use them to the fullest. Like mercy’s Super jump if a mercy knew how to use it chances were you had a good mercy on your team, but now it’s a function everyone can use.
Another thing that’s bothers me is the power creep on tanks but really in general. They have to buff them in drastic ways to make them playable but playable doesn’t make them fun.
I still play from time to time but it only takes a few match’s to completely drain any desire I have for the game.
I just want the fun game that I used to play back man, for now I’ll just move on to playing more Elden Ring.
Thank you for sharing your experience! :) when you said ow2 is like playing with a team going for their own plays, I absolutely think the same. It became more... Individually based rather than team based in a sense. And omg yes when they made all the characters more "playable" for the new players, it kinda just ruined it for me too.
Enjoy the elden ring experience tho 😌 I need to get into the game itself more too!
@@feenixsarchive Thanks! Hopefully you enjoy Elden ring! It’s an absolutely beautiful and fun game, a bit difficult but an amazing experience :D
@@LoneBee411 Oh yeah, definitely a lot to learn and get the hang of, but I'll do my best! :D
I play Overwatch because of the people and to get my competitive fix, otherwise Id do my weeklies with mixed emotions (all role queue weekly is just instant tank queues and it SUCKS!). I wanna hope that they will talk about 6v6 cause I feel that format was better, but if its confirmed that its never coming back maybe that will be the final nail in the coffin for me. Its not like I don't exactly hate the game I just hate the experience of giving my 110% and still lose :/
Oooo thank you for sharing your thoughts! We'll definitely have to see if the team will bring back 6v6 or not. I totally feel you on giving it your best and losing tho :( it's never fun when that happens
have not watched the video yet but congratulations! also, mandatory insert team fortress 2 steam page link
LMAOOO tyty
My story with OW is quite similar but with Reaper and Ana instead of Mercy.
I found OW during a lowpoint in my life and it quickly became my favorite game, but Blizzard just ruined it. I have honestly given up hope for this game. I dont think it's ever gonna return to it's former glory.
Great video! :D
Sameeeee ow helped me through some lows in my life. We can only cope it'll return to its former glory but who knows! And thank you :D
There are so many people like us who have been with this game for 8 years, since the beginning. There are no other games that feel even remotely close. Overwatch is such a special game that over time has just gotten more and more watered down. I love the game and the characters so much but it has definitely gotten to the point where it's lost it's identity trying to "fit in" with other games like Valorant. It's been so simplified to the point where the creativity and skill expression feels non-existent. All of the synergy is gone between teammates and it's like it's being made to appeal to people who don't play the game more than people who actually do.
I would rather be in that 3 year period of time where Overwatch had 0 updates at all than the complete disappointment OW2 has been so far. At least then I could enjoy playing tank. I still can't leave this game though, I've found myself recently also becoming the mercy girl stereotype & that's really the only fun I've been able to have recently. Other characters are either too simple or feel bad to play now.
This game needs it's personality back & it needs to stop pandering to people who don't even play the game. It's not even nostalgia at this point, Overwatch 1, 6v6, and all it's features and balance are better than OW2 no contest.
I absolutely agree with you. It felt like the game was trying to become more "mainstream" with other fps games and therefore lost its charm and uniqueness. It felt like it was trying to appeal to newer players rather than the veteran players, which isn't remotely too much of a bad thing, but it left us feeling very neglected. The game absolutely lost its personality bc of that. I'd also much prefer the content drought of ow bc I still had goals I wanted to reach back then 😔
I'm also an OG player and I've felt the same way. I recently came to the sad realization that Overwatch 2 just wasn't made for me, or OW1 players. It feels like it has been optimised to gather more "classic FPS" players from other games, with a more kill-based fast paced gameplay. What made me fall in love with OW1 is that you could pick nearly any hero and feel like you were contributing something to the team. For example when playing tank, if you weren't an aggressive player you could still focus on protecting your team and be helpful in doing so. The game used to valorize different playstyles but now in OW2, the main goal is just to wipe the enemy team as fast as possible. Tank is miserable and supports are put in a weird position where they have to put their entire healing on the tank or else the tank falls but also they need to help secure kills as well by doing damage. If you don't counterplay you're also pretty much cooked. Mercy is still to this day my second most played hero but I literally haven't played her since OW2 came out because the burst damage is just too strong. I still play for the dailies and weeklies because of FOMO but most of the time logging in feels like a chore, as soon as events and/or battlepasses are done I usually stop playing until the next update.
That's gonna sound insane but after years of hating League of Legends I finally gave this game a good shot and I'm actually enjoying it so much. The servers are so much more stable, I don't get sent to foreign servers with 300ms, the updates are frequent and grinding games even outside of an event still feels rewarding. If you don't pay for the battlepass, grinding OW2 gives you nearly jack diggidy squat (I know they've been improving that over time but still). I've also made the decision to put more time into more solo story-driven FPS games instead.
With all of that said I hope you find your next favorite game and I hope it helps you move on from OW.
You're so right, ow2 definitely tried to follow other mainstream fps games, and I think that's also what ruined it. It didn't feel unique anymore :/ YES feeling like you could actually contribute something in ow1 is SO REAL, but in ow2 it's just... Not the case. I totally felt you with logging on feeling like a chore. It definitely didn't help bc ow2 didn't feel like you had much to grind for other than the bp 😔
I heard some of my other ow friends trying league and enjoying it as well, and I'm glad you ended up liking it too! Enjoy what game makes you happy (altho I'll poke fun at you jokingly in the distance LMAOOO)! And thank you 🫶
I might commit crimes if we go one more season without even CONSIDERING that “certain” changes from OW1 to OW2 were HORRIBLE.
And besides me blatantly referencing 6v6, even UI changes they made were dumb.
Why did they remove level borders? Why did they remove leveling in general? Why did they remove ranks showing? Why did they remove ranks being on the borders? Why did they remove medals? Why did they remove end game cards?
And dear lord, white UIs are disgusting. I will always say that Black UIs>White UIs.
The borders literally look like the Overwatch BETA borders.
They made changes so they can say it’s a new game but people still say it’s the same exact game so why did they even bother? All they did was remove any trace of culture or enrichment that existed in the game.
YESSSSSSSS THIS!! I was so disappointed finding how much stuff they removed that made the game special like :(((
even watching your old OW1 gameplay makes me feel like the vibe is completely different, like the way the game looks more unique and how much more relaxed it was.
omg yes it felt so much more smoother too. it was really really nice, altho as a support it was definitely just as stressful LMAO
@@feenixsarchive I used to be a tank main but I quit because it's so miserable now LMAO ;-;
this is so sad, i just got into the game and i get recommended all of these videos lol. then i started playing tank and now i understand.
I never played Overwatch throughout the franchise's lifespan, but I've seen how once a great hero shooter can be destroyed by bad updates, through overelying on eSports, the pursuit of perfect balance, and greedy monetization schemes.
But Blizzard's heinious act is just one of the many things that are ruining all forms of art. I'm a person who saw the bigger picture of the problem that affected not just video games, but music, TV, movies and everything else you loved in a bad way.
That's so interesting hearing that from someone who's never played overwatch before :o but the fact you can see the destruction of it through every decision they made on the game really says a lot.
legitimately the only reason i still play is to have something to do while talking with my friends or listening to podcasts.
Honestly that's kinda a vibe
Same here honestly, I was playing casually overwatch since 2017 and I stopped playing as often cuz of the gameplay loop. Started playing competitively on season 8 of ow2 and yeah… I’m a rein main so your thoughts as a mercy main is very similar. Rein is just dreadful, not fun, and requires a gigantic skill sealing to be remotely viable against an orisa 2 ranks down me. It’s just not the game I’ve played on my ps4 with my classmates for fun
Omg that last sentence is actually so real. Overwatch will never be the same and it really saddens me tbh. Rein needs more attention I swear, he was the only tank I loved playing with and against 😔
@@feenixsarchive and mercy for me it’s the same. Love when I played with or against a mercy cause I know how hard it is to make that character work against how hard it is to make bap work
My respect for you 📈📈
I'm super upset about pve getting canceled the one this I was so hyped for overwatch 2 especially playing it with friends to make youtube videos on but looks let it will never come along :(
It was such a mistake leaking it to the public and getting all our hopes up for years and POOF it's not happening like... Okay man
I really do miss the days of overwatch 1. I very recently stopped playing overwatch 2 as it's just not the game I felt in love, I tried to love it but blizzard is just ruining and killing this game and it really hurts to see my once loved game get ruined...
I really felt you there :((( we're in the same boat
This is definitely a result of both 5v5 and the balance philosophy of the current team in charge of the game.