Pro Nuzlocker Ranks Every Gen 1 Pokemon
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Ranking every Pokemon in Gen 1 for how good it is in Nuzlockes. Which one is the best?
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Man, poor Onix. It looks way stronger than it actually is. You'd think a giant snake made entirely of rock that spends much of its life digging massive tunnels underground would be a lot tougher when in reality it has a base Attack total that's the same as Wurmple's. Are you fricken kidding me?
I made a challenge to beat fire red with only one type ( I am now doing normal) when I was usiing rock tye I used onix the least
It's also the same as the first pokemon you see, pidgey
It might not be great in gen 1 but give it an eviolite or choice scarf and body press and it can certainly put in some work in gen 8
Give it dig
Still use it tho, looks so cool i just can't resist every time I play gen 1 lmao
“Gyarados is literally free in every Gen”
*remembers the Magikarp that costs $500 in the Pokémon Center outside Mt Moon*
that's such a good meme
@@kheireddineattala1281 I'm sure it is, and the Trenton Damari guy is also another bot, I've seen the same exact replies atleast 5 times now between different people
@@fazebolo1682 Can confirm, I've seen the same pattern across several videos.
@@gibbcharron3469 can't believe people fall for these shitty scammers
@@JEST3R_ I don't think they get that many people; I suspect that the cost of these bots is low enough that they only need a couple of people curious or gullible enough to check it out in order to recoup their costs, and everything after that is profit.
Developers making Onix: "A 30 foot snake made of rocks. I bet this thing hits like a fuckin truck!"
Masuda: "lol no"
masuda wasn't a director in gen 1 tho
Gen 1 development team was on crack all the time. Had to be to came up with stuff like the lack of physical/special split, damage types linked to pokemon types, psychic type in general.
@@joaogomes9405 I'm not gonna lie. I actually liked physical/special being tied to typing, mainly due to it making defensive pokemon easier to use
@@Vexal50 having them split makes a lot of pokemon more useful though. Otherwise all the special-type Pokémon with high normal attack are pretty useless
@@JJames666male For Pokémon like that they just needed moves to compliment their physical types. We definitely needed better Flying, Bug, Rock, Poison, Ghost and Fighting moves.
-Razor Wind should've been a 1 Turn Flying move.
-Wing Attack should've been 60 BP from the start
-Gust should've also been Flying, maybe raise the BP and give Pidgey Peck instead
-Sky Attack also should've been 1 Turn, Solar Beam and Skull Bash too, there was no point to nerf them like that when Fire Blast, Blizzard and Thunder existed, it should also have been given to Gyarados
-Cut and Vicegrip should've been 60 BP Bug moves.
-Leech Life should've been 40 BP
-Rage, Strength, Mega Punch and Mega Kick should've been Fighting
-Submission should've been 100 BP and Accuracy
-Poison Sting should've been a multihit move.
-Every Poison Pokémon should've learned Acid and Sludge at some point
-Skull Bash and Swift could have been Rock type, but that's a stretch
-Bide should've been Rock type, but that wouldn't change anything.
-Rock Throw needed an accuracy buff
There's probably other changes, but those would definitely make physical attackers in Gen 1 better, alongside balancing out the rest of the meta.
I love the sudden changes of heart
39:45 - “Tangela is pretty good!”
40:09 - “Tangela is pretty ass”
Glad I wasn't the only person that noticed this
same with jinx
He said really bad
@joku tyyppi one second before saying that he said "tangela is pretty ass"
Cause its stats and types is good but moves is ass
Ah yes Crobat that classic Gen 1 Pokémon!
Oof
Magneton as well!
Edit: Okay people, I get it. I got Magneton and Magnezone confused. I meant Mangezone. I just got confused because I don't use the magnemite line pokemon much.
@@anonymous_person8280 at least crobat was in fire red and leaf green
@@anonymous_person8280 you mean Magnezone.
@@fishbowel4601 but only in the post game
Beedrill is C tier, eh?
This is a love letter to Spike the Beedrill. His Nuzlocke run was difficult, fraught with bad luck and bad typing. But he was amazing.
Now, I won't lie, like anyone else who makes a Fire Red run, I was very disappointed to encounter a Weedle in the grass of Route 2, just before the Viridian Forest. I would have preferred a Pidgey. However, I was hurting for team members since this run had a "No Starter" clause, and I had "returned" Professor Oak's Squirtle after catching Nibbles the Rattata, so I kept Spike on as a placeholder Pokémon.
I largely ignored him at first, keeping his level just barely up with the rest of the team. It wasn't till right before Misty that I finally started to give him any real attention at all. Rose the Oddish proved to be a little on the fragile side and I was worried about her handling Misty's Starmie. I trained Spike so that he could use Twin Needle on the part psychic Pokemon. A good choice on my part, since Rose ended up confused from Starmie's Water Pulse, leaving Spike to bail us out.
My luck hadn't been very good this run, and by the S.S. Anne, I had only captured eight Pokémon. Then, just north of Vermillion City, my luck sank even farther. While using the Versus Seeker to train, Camper Jeff decided to get revenge and murdered both Nibbles the Raticate and Baboon the Mankey. Shortly after, Diggy the Diglet was killed by a Goldeen's Horn Attack.
I was quickly finding myself lacking the Pokémon I needed to fight Surge. In an act of desperation, I taught Tomcat the Meowth Dig to handle most of the electric types I'd encounter, and Spike learned Brick Break to deal with any Magnemites. The two of them wiped Surge's gym rather easily.
By this point, Spike had earned a begrudging spot on the team. His Brick Break was surprisingly effective in most of his battles, and despite his species reputation as fragile speedster, he proven himself very durable.
And then I challenged Sabrina.
And as I'm sure many can attest, Sabrina is a murderer.
It was a stupid move on my part. Four of the Pokémon on my team carried a poison typing. I should have gone south after Sliph Co, challenged Koga, leveled up some more. But I overestimated my chances.
The key to my strategy was Wisp the Haunter. Her Shadow Ball destroyed most of the gym, including Sabrina's Kadabra and Mr. Mine, with One-Hit-KO's. And than Sabrina sent out her Alakazam, who proved that he was just as quick on his feet physically as mentally. I don't know how much damage Shadow Ball would have done since Wisp never got the chance to use it. She evaporated under one Psychic attack.
Tomcat the Persian was my back up, but he only landed one Feint Attack before falling to critical Psychic hit. And now I was in trouble.
Both Rose the Gloom and Regal the Nidoking were far too slow and would both die immediately. Hawke the Fearrow was certainly faster and lacked a type disadvantage, but his only dark attack was Pursuit. Besides, I had been planning on saving him for her Venomoth, and I very much doubted he could take them both.
So, as a last minute Hail Mary, I sent out Spike, praying that his speed would be greater than Alakazam's.
It wasn't.
I remember how my heart sank with that health bar.
I had barely caught sixteen Pokémon by this point. Of that, five had already died. After my whole team got taken out here, I wouldn't even have enough for a full roster when starting over. I wasn't sure I could handle that. This run was over.
On a whim, just a mere half an hour of game time previously, I had used an HP-Up that I found in Sliph Co on Spike. It had given him two extra health points. I should have used more stuff on him. Hindsight.
And than his HP bar stopped.
At exactly 2 HP.
The elation and excitement I felt was indescribable.
And then Spike attacked. Twin Needle, which was both Super Effective and a STAB attack, was than in turn boosted by Spike's specially ability, Swarm. Alakazam, who still had over three quarters left in his health bar, fainted immediately. Spike didn't even need to hit him with the second needle.
That was the moment that he went from a begrudging member of the team to my partner. And he stayed there, digging my team out of trouble time and time again. For a Pokémon with a Docile nature, he proved to be one heck of fighter.
I wish I could give you the ending of Spike's story, but I can't. While training for the Elite Four, I messed up. I left my NDS with my copy of Fire Red on the sink in the bathroom at work. It only took me ten minutes for me to realize my mistake, but by then, it was gone. I searched everywhere, asked my coworkers and supervisors, but it was nowhere to be found.
I won't lie, it hurts knowing I'll never see the ends of that run. I imagine a big climatic final battle between Spike and my rival's Venosaur, named Faunus (Processor Oak gave all his starters very grandiose names, the Squirtle I borrowed was Poseidon). But such is life, I suppose.
Spike the Beedrill was easily one of the best Pokémon I've ever trained. He went from just another useless Weedle to my battle tested partner. Goodbye, Spike.
You really were amazing.
SPIKE THE BEEDRILL
Caught: Route 2
Levels: 4 - 59
Nature: Docile
Special Ability: Swarm
Move Set:
Cut
Focus Energy
Brick Break
Twin Needle
Wow dude, that is really amazing
@@karboar7725 Thanks 😁
Nice story!
I love beedril. His speed and high attack make him a great psychic killer. Not as fast as Alakazam, but faster than most of them. Only played gen 1 and 2 though. (Firered is gen 3)
@M1U7Z5 You've discovered my hobby 😅
El tumorismo ha llegado hasta aquí D:
I know jackshit about Pokémon but I’ve had a bad day and this guy seems cool so I’m gonna watch this entire video
Yeah, I don't even play pokemon anymore since li'e 10year but I remember a lot about it so it's just nostalgy
He's quite entertaining whether you enjoy pokemon or not anyway.
I wish I did not.......this dude sucks IMO, a huge EGO with claiming to be the best in the world, when he is not, there will always be some on better. and He says he ranking Gen 1 pokemon only, BUT he's adding Gen 2/3/4 Vers of the pokemon Evo. Line, so its not a True Gen 1 only......Also he adds is moves that and passive Skills, That if this was to be a TRUE Gen 1 Only, Thos Move are not in the pokemon Leearning line cause they are not in RBY, and Passive Skills was not added into pokemon until gen 3 NOT Gen 1.....This dude has nothing really good about him other knowing pokemon, but only in his thoughts.
@@phoenixgodtimothy7479
1: The intro is mostly a joke, in fact most of the time he adds a maybe and other comedic things to insinuate he’s probably not, and has just done a lot of stuff with Nuzlocke and general Pokémon knowledge.
2: other gens were considered based on evolutions added later and some extra knowledge in general
3: They’re called abilities, and the remakes DO have abilities, so another thing wrong
@@phoenixgodtimothy7479 salt
challenge: play with a team of only F-tiers
I feel like golbat is somewhat useable in early gens
He made a Nuzlock that was essentially this. Emerald Trashlock or something like that
@Guts, The True Black Swordsman and he also did a Emerald Trashlocke
In a nuzlocke
I think my man is sleeping on parasect at least for gen 1.
Charizard is ranked the worst starter
*Happy Bulbasaur Noises*
ive always loved bulbasaur. i was that weird kid in school that played pokemon blue and picked bulbasaur.
Jarjarfunk I meant to write blastoise (my pick) but go off.
i think charizard gained points only for a few reasons, being the color red back in the day, being one of like 5 limited fire types in gen 1, and looking like a dragon. As I got older, I realized I liked Blastoise a lot more. For bulbasaur i hate venasaurs look, but loved ivysaur
Of couse venusaur is the best
Charizard always was my favorite of gen1, but i also always acknowledged he was the worst in a fight (especially in gen1, where he really struggle against Kanto arena), but all around i think Kanto is one of those gen that had 3 really cool starters and people choices must be pretty balanced between the 3
Fortunately for me, his Mega made him the best one in a fight out of the 3 ^^
11:26 "I've never used Alolan Ninetails."
"It's fairy type, so it's probably alright."
Yep, checks out.
In my own humble opinion, if there ever was a pokemon that could use a stat buff then it is Onix.
100% agree
That buff is called steelix
@@unii2657 steelix still isnt too great either, Just decent.
ONIX 👏 SHOULD 👏 HAVE 👏 70 👏 BASE 👏ATTACK👏
it's hilarious that a giant rock snake monster is so pathetically weak
PC: Pidgeot has shit typing
Also PC: Fearow's Normal/Flying typing is pretty good for this gen
Me who has never attempted a nuzlocke before: *confused unga-bunga*
Ditto is easily my favorite Pokemon and I don't even think I'd want to use it in a nuzzlock. I mean one as soon as it died I would be crying but also I agree with you that it's really hard to find a situation where it's going to be super good I mean I guess if you have one with imposter you can pull something off but I don't exactly know how rare that is I assume it's kind of very rare and I don't feel like putting in enough research. Find the situations where I can make it like useful
Spearow/Fearow gets drill peck at lvl 30 something. Pidgey line gets its first flying move at the same time
@@eternalJay10 yeah it is its dual typing like pretty much every other bird pokemon
@@212mochaman damn. I would've bet my left testicle that pigey was flying only. My bad
Ah gen 1, the good old days when I used my S tier steel type magnezone to sweep through the game.
lol
@@firestar9650 doesn't work as well cuz both of those types were in gen one lol, but yeah I was co fused
Magnazone is gen 4
@@synapsesoup3356 That's the joke.
He said he does evolution lines as a whole, meaning newer evolutions too, at least that's how I understood the intro explaination
Parasect starting Gen 2 isn‘t too terrible to have for catching Pokémon, Spore and False Swipe is a decent combo for not losing any first encounters
That is a good catch assist. My favorite catch assist is Scissor. Haunter which has Mean Look and Hypnosis is ideal for stopping Pokemon from fleeing the first turn. It should be a speed based build so it can move first for Mean Look.
Nicholas Houzenga while I love Scissor you need someone to trade with to obtain it so I usually can’t get one. Parasect has the advantage of being easy to obtain and learning Spore at an okay level, everyone loves a catch assist with a 100% sleep chance :)
Other than Roaming Legendaries barely any Pokemon run away so I don’t tend to go for the Haunter solution, especially with Hypnosis‘s terrible hit ratio
@@Christoph-ce4hj Except for those freakin Ralts and Abra, if you manage to get Gastly before encountering them that is ^^
Guifire97 well considering the rate they appear at and the locations they are in you are very unlikely to see one before after getting a Ghastly
Parasect is my favorite Pokemon. I call it "Roach Stroganoff".
In Onix's defense it does learn Screech, one of the few double debuffs available throughout the game. Having the ability to drop an opponent's def 2 stages in one turn on such a durable pokemon is nothing to scoff at in a Nuzlocke run. I've had my ass saved in more than one Nuzlucke by a debuff Onix.
Hypno: The Poorman's Alakazam
Or the: doesn't have anyone to trade with's Alakazam.
Hypno is just a SOregistered Alakazam, with probably a few addictions
@@deemac3470 That’s what Mr Mime is for, he’s the most balanced alternative.
@@altdelet3778 mr. Mime is a clown though
@@deemac3470 Damn you right
"Poison types are shit"
*proceeds to fill the A tier's first 4 slots with poison types*
Well I mean, I think over half of gen 1 is either pure or part poison type
Not really they're either water or part flying. Thats what makes thunderbolt so powerful in gen 1. Its just that only 2 grass types are not part poison in gen 1.
@@sphinx19l no youre wrong. There are 33 poison type pokemons in gen 1 followed by water types so he is right to saying that poison types are predominant in gen 1. The type sucks though, only good defensively resisting 5 types, but offensively, is only super effective against grass types until fairy types were introduced in gen 6.
@@skyisthelimit5078 No Im not. He said "OVER HALF of gen 1 is either pure or part poison".... 33 poison types which includes choices like weedle and kakuna and other 3 stage mons... Now go count how many flying and water types there are (that are weak against lightning) and then remind yourself the context of my comment he responded to.
@@sphinx19l please. Why would i do that? Fine. I might have missed that "over half" part of the statement but i thought he just exaggerated the fact that were a heap of poison types introduced in gen 1. It was by far the most amount of pokemons for the same type introduced in like, ever. You cant deny that fact. And if were talking context here, why do you keep bringing water and flying types when we are talking about poison types? Who cares if thunderbolt is OP in gen 1. Its you who needs to remind yourself what the context of your initial comment was. LOL.
"Beedrill is very underrated"
Arin Hanson has entered the chat
BUNT'D HAS AWOKEN
Who?
*I have entered the chat*
@@thehumanstunlock7588 Uh it's Bundt,
@@flitterbee oop, my bad, but you knew who i was talking about.
My worst Nuzlocke starter was Hoppip in randomized Crystal. It had only Splash, Synthesis and Tail Whip and learned Tackle at level 10.
i'm pretty sure if your stuck hoppip as a starter you just restart the run and choose a new starter
Mine was regirock, only had explosion
@@jdealz9983 Oh, that hurts, but Regirock is Gen 3.
@@pi_xi Emerald randomizer
Wouldn't it make more sense to do the tier lists by game? That way you can judge the specific pokemon available in that game by how they match up against specific encounters?
No
Or at least by region/gen. Honestly it feels like he was talking more about Fire Red/Leaf Green rather than Red/Blue/Yellow in the video. And rating them in those games or HG/SS would make them relevant longer.
@@haruhirogrimgar6047 yeah, for example there really isn't any good counters to psychic in gen 1. But a parasect with leech life and eventually spore is a decent way of dealing with them.
@@intothekey All things considered the best alakazam counter is headbutt hypno
Yeah and he put raticate in A tier for guts but abilities didn’t exist before gen 3. So Pokemon yellow wouldn’t have that
This list really feels like it should've been organized By Game, rather than in general; because a lot of a Nuzlocke Pokemon's viability is influenced by the game around it.
For Example, Starmie is usually fantastic, but for instance; In GSC, you might not even have a chance at one until the late Post Game.
I think he tried to consider all the Gen1 games (R/B/Y/FR/LG/LGP/LGE) and average the out.
But yeah it would have been better to go by game than region.
You can fish up starmie in quite a few places johto but okay
Yeah because in the kanto games Nidoking is 100% S tier.
@@seviikun That, you can, but getting the Water Stone to evolve it is gon take a bit more effort.
Especially with Butterfree, before compound eyes sleep powder it’s good for like gym 1 but you can use for a good bit I. The later games
Its hilarious how he has no problem badmouthing the live chat
I know this is an old comment but I’ve been trying to find some new poketubers lately and damn this guy is full of himself lol
Is he autistic?
@A B that doesn't tend to be very appealing to people
@@derickstanford5334 I 100% agree.
@A B if you see it as confidence then you’re deluded you only have to look at how he talks down about everyone else who does a nuzlocke and sees his way as the only viable way.. that’s not confidence that’s being a dick who is full of themselves.. learn the difference
Gyarados banned indefinitely. So common, so strong, so boring.
I used my Gyarados in my platinum nuzlocke.
Swept Bertha, Flint, and Cynthia, only taking hits from their first Pokémon, to set up dragon Dances.
I have used gyarados in 5 playthroughs, in every single one it was my mvp. Thats why i stopped using him, and also i stopped using feraligatr in my gen 2 playthroughs cuz its literally diet gyarados and is about as busted
Hence why he is S, cause most nuzlockers are retarded and don't use mons to their best potential as Jan himself said, Most people dont care about nuzlocking, They just care about winning with pokemon they like not even the fun of planning around hardass rng based scenarios
Me and the boys grinding Magikarp to level 20 😴😴😴
Gyrados isn't boring, that's for sure
Who would win? A Dragon but is not really a dragon but looks like a dragon or
One butterfly
+2 rats
A frog with flower
"Does chat know why Raticate is a good underrated pokemon"
Me: Surprise Thunderbolt?
Surprize blizzard. Esp in Gen1. 90 acc 120bp blizzards.
Don't forget the super fang-hyper fang combo too. If you train it to be fast and have good attack it can sweep real well.
Also it's shiny looks like it's even more angry than usual so that's a plus.
@Vale Sauce It was talking about the pokemon across all the gems reliability wise, thats why he talked about clefairy being normal or fairy type, and why alolan forms still show up
@Vale Sauce he also plays rom hacks so he is going with averages
The thing that makes raticate good is the super fang hyper fang combo with the guts ability
'charizard goes on b tier and lowest of all gen 1 starter'
Chat: *go crazy*
It IS the worst starter... Pretty much only good against Erika and nothing else.. Blastoise is good against Brock, Blaine and Giovanni
Venusaur is good against Brock, Misty, Surge, Erika (use a Normal type move or something on it and her pokemon can't touch it ), Koga can't poison it, use a non Poison /Grass move, and then Giovanni
@@AlldaylongRock even people in alola region use it for transportation
@@haidarasyraffauzan2972 For Fly you are better off with Fearow and then later go for Zapdos.. Zapdos is broken.. Drill Peck and Tbolt are all it needs
why is it the worst of all of the starters? go play pokemon red and blue and pick charmander as the starter and you will see.
When a butterfly gets a higher rank than a giant, flying, fire-breathing dragon/reptilian:
**sad Charizard noises**
I cry now
Good.
@@haruhirogrimgar6047 exactly
Honestly insects and arthropods are just as interesting (if not more) than lizards, if they wanted to they could do some really sick butterfly pokemon
97% sleep and stupid good earlygame and in later generations it has access to sleep and quiver dance.
I found a shiny Weedle in a Fire Red Nuzlocke. It was my third Nuzlocke ever, and it ended poorly, but Beedrill put in some work! For those of you who would dismiss Beedrill as I did before evolving that Shiny Weedle, know that Twinneedle nearly murdered Sabrina's Alakazam in the first hit alone. This was noteworthy to me, seeing as said Alakazam swept me on my prior attempt at the run, and never again have I looked down on Beedrill since.
Same lol but mine died in the S.S. Anne.
how did it survived a psychic from Alakazam?
@@lime-limelight It didn't have to. It was faster and Twinneedle hits twice
@@1pieveofKH maybe it had something to deal with speed EVs ig as it slower than alakazam
@@lime-limelightas well as badge boosts
Might be the whiniest comment section I've ever seen.
That twitch chat has got to be home to the cringiest of whiners.
Cause this list is absolute ass
Welcome to the online Pokemon community
@@Jacob-df5hr Welcome to the online community ^^ every community have people like that (especially in ranking)
@@guifire9747 yes everyone has them but distributions are not uniform, and different genres attract different people, on aggregate
I wish he kept this in the context of gen 1 He talks about alot of moves, stats and pokemon that dont exist in gen 1
He did this in a stream where he ranked every pokemon it was just in order and split up for videos
Also you can get these Pokémon in other gens and he’s just ranking them in nuzlocke viability for all the games
Yeah its def complex to make it across all gens because it makes certain opinions just wrong, for example no way vileplume is better than victreebell gen 1. That said, its way too much work to make one of these for every gen and I understand that the list is an average across all generations.
I came in with the same mind set. But realised how few people nuzlocke the first two gens before gba. We just the minority *shurgs*
Well there's also FRLG
FInally someone showed some love to Ratticate
@Pott Rott This is so underrated
@@devildynamite7454 It isn't tho
@@tangytim6699 Hyper Fang at 13
Guts potential
Early game breeze
Used one without guts on my playthrough
Survived till 7th gym
@@devildynamite7454 Oh I thought you were talking about their comment, my bad. Why did you link them tho?
@@tangytim6699 Oh my bad! I just realized....oops
Also, their comment is underrated too I guess idk
Can confirm surprising utility of Beedrill. Did a LeafGreen nuzlocke and Beedrill was one of the members of my champion team.
It can't be understated how many fighting types and poison types the endless rocket battles consist of. Beedrill is surprisingly bulky with all that resistant
Alolan Ninetails is legit really good only a bit frail, best to have Snow warning so you can throw Aurora veil up first thing not sure how viable that makes it in nuzlocks tho
NINETALES, NOT NINETAILS!
@@tommyortega7796 dear god no
@@Amelia4111 Its ninetails idiot
@@gusthavo15yearsand98 sadly its not
Thanks for putting Starmie in high A-Tier makes me super happy. It’s always been my absolute favorite Pokémon ever and I feel like it often gets slept on unfairly by other players.
I'm ultra-late but its probably because of how late you get it.
Starmie has the same base speed as Raikou and has been OU Gen 1-5. An amazing feat.
pokemon players: i love ivysaur
smash players: *iTs An oP saLAd
Man mad respect when you said Beedrill is underrated I'm never mad getting a Weedle early game.
If he made the list again after his Emerald Kaizo run, Primeape will be in at least A tier. Reversal strat is insane
It wouldn't be. This is just for vanilla and Emerald Kaizo is different in so many ways.
Seeing my favourite Pokémon being put in S-Tier makes me happy. Gyarados for the win!
Gyrados
@@tangytim6699 Gyarados
Gayrados
@@SkyNinja759 Yes.
From a useless fish in the fishtank to literally dragon of the sea.
Shouldn’t we consider this in the context of actual gen 1 games? Cause things like guts and intimidate didn’t exist back then and would totally change some of these rankings
Dude fire red and leaf green dude gen 3 remake
Yeah the problem is that the original gen 1 games (Not the gen 3 remakes), are kinda... bad. Its like Mario Party, where they spawned a great series, but isn't actually that great
Sinead Thomas
FRLG didn’t exactly age well either. Not being able to evolve any Pokémon where the evolution isn’t in the Kanto Dex until you beat the game and not being able to get Pokémon like Espeon and Umbreon at all because the Day-Night cycle wasn’t in Gen 1 was just such a hilariously dumb move. Like wtf was the point of that and what’s the logic behind it? Yeah sure, I‘m gonna keep a Golbat on my team for the whole freaking game, you know, because it was such a classic in *good ol Gen 1.* It’s good to know that my Pokémon doesn’t love me until I show it the National Dex, I‘m sure half the fanbase can relate to this sentiment. Crobat is lame anyway, actually being useful and all. Thank you, FRLG, for severely limiting my team building options.
@@rainpooper7088 I respect FRLGs decisions though. They made a conscious descision to do something stupid (which they do in most Pokemon games) as opposed to RGB where they just messed up
I feel you John
Would love to see you do the other gens!!
"You have the natural advantage over the AI by not being an AI"
*Laughs in Elon Musk*
Xaea-12
In video games yes in combat probably not lmao
@@songsinger531 fair
You know what I love about Bulbasaur? It was grass/poison so right from the start of the game you are immune to poison damage. Bulbasaur I think is easy mode, it's super effective against the first two gyms and has resistance to electric.
Yes, it very much is. The starters of Kanto are quite literally difficulty modes ranking from easy, medium and hard. Even their order on the table is that of a difficulty choice.
@@ShinuGuardian Squirtle is easier tho
@@WW21_WonderfulWorld nope. I don't know where you got that from, but just looking at gyms and the elite 4, you can easily tell Bulbasaur has an edge over Squirtle.
@@ShinuGuardian water types are notoriously better because they have an insane coverage, and Blastoise is no exception.
@@WW21_WonderfulWorld By the time water type coverage becomes more relevant than grass type coverage in gen 1, you have access to many better water types. Squirtle's certainly not a bad starter, but Bulbasaur is objectively better if you consider the gyms you have to face:
Brock: Not much difference between vine whip and water gun here
Misty: Both resist water, but Ivysaur has the super effective hits
Surge: Ivysaur resists electric, Wartortle gets rekt.
Erika: Ivysaur resists better, but Wartortle may pack ice beam. Still, by this time, you should have better ways of dealing with grass types than your starter (unless you And after Erika, Lapras is free, so the benefits of a water starter are gone completely. Not to mention you could have trained a Gyarados.
i think mr mime is being slept on, it's almost as fast and almost as strong as kadabra but with better defenses (especially sp def), gets nasty plot and calm mind, and gaining fairy type later helps, ppl often forget it packs 100 sp atk and 90 speed, and has tm moves like thunderbolt that kadabra lacks, i'd put it A if that's where kadabra and hypno are
Also Encore. Mr. Mime is insanely good.
It can also baton pass cm boosts.
Fun fact Gyarados is just a water type Gallade they have very similar stats
The other way around considering Gyarados came first. Gallade is a psychic type Gyarados.
@@lousyllamma986 by God you're right
They might have similar stats, but other than that they're nothing alike. Different types, different moves, different abilities... Even different playstyles.
@@ChoiceSnarf I mean, it's just a joke, I don't actually think that Gallade is unoriginal and a copy of gyarados, I just thought it was interesting hearing that they had similar stats.
@@lousyllamma986 Yeah, I get you. I didn't even know their stats were similar, either.
Butterfree has a lot of versatility in Gen 3 kanto games. Compoundeyes boosted Sleep Powder paired with Dream Eater is a great combo for it. Speed wise, it is average so it can outspeed most NPC pokemon. It can also solo Agatha and Bruno as well if you give it Giga Drain.
“Parasect is terrible on nuzlocks”
Haydunn would like a word with you
The most underrated comment here
I have never done a Nuzlock save. But I imagine hitting a lvl 31 Dugtrio in gen 1 when all other wild pokemon are like lvl 20 at that point in the game is pretty nuts.
HI person from 11 months ago. Diglett cave is a bigger run killer then most gym leaders in fr/lg cause they all got arena trap and roll magnitude 9's about half the time. If u ever do a fr nuzlocke... dont even attempt it if u dont have a flying type or 4, its suicide otherwise
Nah its worse in FR/LG gen 3 (where there's abilities so it's arena trap)
Rating Crobat and Magnezone but not Pory-2 or Pory-Z >.>
Either do all the evolutions of Gen 1 Pokemon or none of them lmao
i dont think youre getting any Porygons in nuzlockes so i think not rating them is fine
So why he ranked some of other trade evolutions, such as golem?
@@xaropevic7918 If you are playing a ROM, using the Universal Pokemon Randomizer (IDK if there's another tool), you can make trade evolutions happen by level up. Some players choose to use that option while playing.
You could just go buy a Porygon and use it as that city's encounter. It's a legal Pokemon.
@@benjiiiiiiiii this, also randomised nuzlocks too.
But the point isn't regarding the ability to get certain mons, its the fact that he evaluated some 2nd and 4th gen Pokemon instead of all 1st gen evos
I remember mankey being mvp vs brock in yellow
"best nuzlocker in the world". most people prob couldnt say that with a straight face lol
Makes me cringe in every video
"Ice pokemon are basically garbage"
*Me raiding gyms mostly with abomasnow and glaceon*: uhm... Well this is awkward 🗿👀
I assume you do so in Pokemon GO? The mainline games are waaaay different. Ice types are garbage, end of story.
Ice types moves, on the other hand, are great.
@@tokiwartooth5752 well yes, I play it on pokemon go, since some people can't really afford spending a lot of money for nintendo and pokemon games (even though i want to) 😂
@@zhemle Then nothing is awkward. 🤷♂️
Are ice types really good in Pokémon go? I’m not very familiar with the game so I’m genuinely curious.
The Pokémon in Go function very differently than Pokémon in mainline games. Ice types like Glaceon, Walrein, and Lapras are ridiculously good with a weather boost. Swampert and Rhyperior are also stronger than a good chunk of pseudo legendaries in Go.
I have mixed feelings about electrode being used as explosion reset because that's a really good idea and I think everyone should have that on the back burner if this is a gen one game then electrode has the highest base speed and thus highest crit chance excluding moves that have higher crit chances like slash. Crit thunderbolts with STAB on electrode are pretty dang good.
Fearow and Dodrio are being underrated here imo. They have a decent enough movepool with really strong moves that you can get quite early on like drill peck and tri attack. Spearow gets aerial ace at 25 in gen 3 if you wait for the evolution and you have an incredibly reliable stab move that won't ever miss. Quick attack is always decent to have just in case, and you can teach either steel for coverage or stab return through TMs. Plus, of course, you can get fly before 4th gym.
I love watching these because more often than not it completely goes against my perceptions I had of these Pokémon as a child 😂
Venusaur with 4 weaknesses - A tier
Charizard with 3 weaknesss " too many weaknesses"
I love he used how good it is in a nozlocks to rank the pokemon and not how good it is in a regular
Alolan Muk really stood the test in my most recent Nuzlocke. Belongs in that A tier.
Thanks to your Influence, I have been currently doing my first run on Firered Nuzlocke and I chose Candle the Charmander first. I know fire starter is a bit rough in the beginning but I rarely play with Charmander starter and wanted to challenge myself in the Nuzlocke.
Watching this Video I was Curious on what you think about Pokemon
my team currently is
Candle the Charizard
Oddball The Volplume
Mimien the Mr. Mime (Traded)
Boney the Marowak
and Pecky the Pidgeotto
My first significant loss was Pothole the Dugtrio taking the hit against Giovanni's Kakashan in the first Hideout and it hurts alot since he carried me on Lt. Surge's Gym.
So far, im enjoying it
how'd the nuzlocke go
Loving the vids! Excellent use of the Diddy Kong Racing music. Took me back to my childhood 😂❤
My issue with early game only Pokémon like Butterfree is that while they're certainly very strong in the early game, the time you spend leveling them up is wasted and leaves your other Pokémon that you will actually use in the later parts of the game under leveled and thus require even more grinding. So to me these early game Pokémon are only used as a last resort, like for example Butterfree if you start with Charmander but even than it's not really necessary as you can get 6 random Pokémon at level 14 for Brock and eventually grind him with only bad and neutral matchups.
One of Jan's favourite pastimes is finding tiny Pokemon with higher attack stats than Onix.
Farfech'd's redeeming quality in Gen 1 is that you get it in a trade and levels up faster, but it doesn't really make up for sucking so much. XD
LEFT OFF THE T IN FARFETCH'D!
It’s solid in fire red leaf green because it can sweep every blue fight thanks to him leading the garbage that is pidgeot and having swords dance.
@@ultimaterecoil1136 A bit easier said than done. In the champion fight, Pidgeot has Whirlwind and Feather Dance to counter such a sweeping attempt. Even then, he’s guaranteed to have at least one Intimidate mon (plus there’s Rhydon).
@@skeetermania3202 one rhydon isn’t an issue because it gets sent out first and should realistically get ohko by steel wing ( farfetched is likely to have some attack evs as a flying type part of its job would be handling fighting types which tend to have attack evs) And 2 pidgeot is laughably easy to setup on if you carry taunt since it’s only attack is Ariel ace in the champ fight which can’t even 2hit ko a farfetched without a crit( let alone something that has actually good stats). And slash crits pretty much can ohko his whole team even at plus 4 which is the worst case scenario minus rhydon for obvious reasons. Farfetched is just the most accessible way to exploit blue’s massive setup weaknesses.
Pleading the case of Charizard in RBY-- TM03, Swords Dance, is fantastic. Set up moves are fantastic. Furthermore, having a starter with a good Physical move pool that can use this broken set up move is huge game. Charizard can have a move set including Body Slam and Earthquake alongside Swords Dance, and the only thing that resists both is Aerodactyl, which doesn't have a single Rock move to hit Charizard with and gets OHKOed by a set-up Charizard regardless. Other learners of Swords Dance are either not guaranteed or mostly have only good Normal physical attacks in their move pool.
"you get jynx super late"
I didn't get jynx really late when I played a normal run of leafgreen
I got it at a decent point in the game, used it and I loved it tbh
then again I was bad at pokemon when I played the game so idk
I'd willingly use it again in another playthrough though
You can get it before the 4th gym in Kanto. Just need a super rod for a Poliwhirl.
@@CaptainKirbyCK think you can even get our before 3rd gym
@@theeman2577 True, I forgot about skipping Surge
Just a little correction but Venomoth actually never gets compound eyes. Venonat does but once it evolves, it loses that ability.
This is a pretty confusing tier list, because of the sheer amount of info to consider. Gen 1'ers are so reliant on later gen things like more diverse moves, eviolite, sp atk/def split, megas, and especially abilities. If it was the Gen 1 meta, 50% of the cast would be C tier and below 😂
That's really the issue with this tier list. Gotta be more specific. What games are we talking about? Lots of Gen 1 Pokemon are very good in RBY but are garbage in later games and vice versa (Butterfree being a great example, it's fucking atrocious in G1, but CompoundEyes means anything slower than it can't fight it in the remake so it's much better despite having mostly middling stats). The video can't be informative because it's too vague.
PhazonSpear also putting clefable in B tier when it decimates every game gen 6 onwards
@@PhazonSpear Indeed, it's mostly depend on which games he use the pkmn for, for exemple Kingler is really bad before 4g, a water type with physical stats and shit-level special attack, you would have to use only non-stab attack (at least Crawdawnt later had decent special attack despite being mainly physical, which is fortunate since his 2 types were special in gen3, my god 4g physcial/special separation was really awesome)
@@guifire9747 You could make a case that Autocrit Crabhammer in Gen 1 I suppose, though Level 42's kind of late. Gen 2 and 3 Gyarados is in the same boat with a whopping 60 Special Attack to use it's STAB off of, making it kind of worthless to use outside of some niche Super Effective hit. Which is why you load down Gyarados with HMs and give it a move like Return for actually hitting things with, since it does that job very well in those two Gens.
My Hypno carried me through the elite 4... As I was feeling cocky after beating Surge, I lost my starter to a pursuit crit. Feeling totally bummed out, I went into the next route to grind and get my next catch, and I found Siesta, my Hypno. Not only did she fill my starters shoes, she straight up carried me to the very end giving me my first ever nuzlocke win. Without her, I know for a fact that run would have died. B tier seems low to me, she'll always be grade A for me.
I think regular Ninetales should be given a second chance as a gym leader or elite four ace, Nasty plot, solar beam, flamethrower, agility, drought would be just perfectly difficult for a new game. If they wanted it to be nasty, give it a bright powder, leftovers, or sitrus berry to help set up. If they wanted easier, take away the drought and agility and give it sunny day to make it harder to set up ( I personally think this could still be to weak, so maybe give it a power herb to kill under prepped teams with one one fire counter to prevent an easy water or ground sweep *cough Flannery*.) Or maybe they could mix up the classic strat by doing a more tanky/crippler strat, (calm mind, mystical fire, willow wisp, stored power) with leftovers or a sitrus berry
“Ranks every gen 1 pokemon”
*adds crobat and magnezone*
gotta love that hes just pumping that good ol mario kart music in the background
"Ranks Every Gen1 Pokemon"
Proceeds to talk about abilities, moves, and evolutions which don't exist in Gen 1.
Honestly want to try Nuzlocking, great video hope to take on the challenge one day
Try it with a friend it’s so much more fun!!
It's not as bad as you'd think for the vanilla games and actually makes them somewhat challenging
There are several romhacks I wouldn't recommend trying it on unless you like to struggle
King ofSauce I like to struggle 😌
@@JustBasicJoseph Emerald Kaizo is the toughest one I know of. The Fire Red/Leaf Green Kaizo I see experienced players beating it in less than an hour just using a decent amount of preparation.
I love the Mario Sunshine music in the back
Whatever playlist he is used for this stream is straight fire
So half of S Rank of gen 1 actually isn't Gen 1 pokemons? xD
WE DO NOT PUT AN S AT THE END OF POKEMON, THE PLURAL AND SINGULAR ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE SAME!
@Aggelos Anastasoulakis There should be 2 F's in Wobbuffet!
@@Amelia4111 I like how in one of ur comment u say "can u please not type in all caps" then proceeds screaming that this person made a mistake
@Aggelos Anastasoulakis No they dont.
@Aggelos Anastasoulakis it doesnt matter though they aremt gen 1 pokemon. They are on an gen 1 remake but they came from gen 3
As a huge Aerodactyl fan, I’m just glad it got a decent rank. I can easily use it to evade the strongest attacks
flareon is a sleeper gem in gen 2 actually! specifically in crystal, if you manage to get the fire stone from one of the phone trainers, you can teach it shadow ball, which is physical.
I liked it a lot in nuzlocke format!
49:13 if you allow breeding in nuzlockes, ditto is S tear
Doesn't B mean "above average"? And C "average"? So confused by these ranking parameters.
Slight notes on Nuzlocke viability in Gen 1: the Spec Attack and Spec Def stats are o e combined Special stat. Also crit chance was influenced by the Speed stat, so good speed Normal types with Slash, like Persian, we're actually considered pretty overpowered.
Also the pre Physical/Special move split mixes up the viability of movesets.
15:12 "the only redeeming quality.."
16:30 "if a pokemon has one redeeming quality it can go into C tier"
our boy parasect deserves better than this
Onix is a decent sacrificial stealth rock setter.
Being a throwaway pokemon meant to use 1 move and then die is really pretty fucking bad still
Ah yes. Crobat and magnezone. Classic gen 1 mons
MAGNEZONE IS SPELLED WITH 2 E'S, NOT 2 A'S!
I love watching this mad lad from every video I watch I learn somethimg
34:40 pchal's sentence syncs with the mario kart lick
Now, I use plenty of items on my playthroughs, so my experiences might be a bit different than yours, but here is my team I used for my FireRed Nuzlocke
Venusaur- My starter, carried my through the early parts of the game. Easily took care of Brock and Misty. Later on all he could do was a decent Razor Leaf, but grew attached and couldn't throw him in the box
Fearow- Fearow took down almost all of the early bug and grass types, did really well early, but once I got to Celadon City I benched it for a Doduo
Nidoking- My main pokemon for taking on Normal or electric types, did well against fire types too, Didn't do too much against the Elite four, but I vaguely remember this thing saving my run against Blue
Hypno- Psychic types are always pretty good, can't say too much more than that. Took quite a few hits, and took many more lives. Did great against Bruno and Agatha, Koga, and obliterated Cycling Road
Jolteon- Absolutely demolished any water and flying types that crossed its path. Lorelei, Lance's Aerodactyl and Gyarados, Blue's Gyarados, Pidgeot, and Charizard. Had bite to help out with any ghost or psychic types, thunder wave to paralyze opponents. MVP
Dodrio- I thought it would do a lot better. I did great against grass and bug types, which only really helped against Erika. It could pull off a powerful Return, a decent Drill Peck, and fly me around
Cloyster- Second best team Member. Got it kind of late, but used all of my Rare Candies at the time to catch it up. Immediately evolved it and bought it an Ice Beam TM. I remember Cloyster being quite a bit faster than expected, and even against Blaine, the low special defense wasn't a huge issue. It was however an issue against Lance. Still had insane physical defense though.
And RIP to Hypno and Dodrio. The only two pokemon to die throughout that entire Nuzlocke
Zapdos too good! Every time I get Zapdos, it's the star of my party!
Just wait untill you fight the incredibly common golem or rhydon with absolutely NO way to lose to zapdos
@Aggelos Anastasoulakis noh
@@TechnoL33T noob
I feel like this list is inconsistent if we’re not just talking about gen 1 games.
To be fair he said gen 1 Pokémon not gen 1 Pokémon from gen 1 games , you know what I mean?
@@manuelarellanes2070 but then he put pokemon like Crobat?
persian is so underrated. i fought some of my friends in gen2 and persian swept through half of their teams before going down. its not the best pokemon ever, but its speed combined with a good variety of possible moves makes it unpredictable. so B tier is well deserved
It's always so jarring to see these pro Poketubers make these videos, and how little they actually know about the overall series, like which Pokemon came out in which gen
I've been a fan of Scyther ever since it eluded me in the safari zone in gen 1 and now I'm afraid of where it'll get ranked
Damn he got mad at people trying to tell him he got the alphabet wrong.
I’ve found butterfree to be at the front of my team in the fire red nuzlocke I started about a week ago (though it is my first nuzlocke and I’m currently going through silph co tower) because it has a huge special attack and sleep powder, and dream eater (a base 100 power psychic move *which heals butterfree*) can be learned from an npc in pewter city after learning cut and/or surf. It’s fairly specific but a sleep powder dream eater combo (both moves have 15 pp) is *really* good. Personal S tier
Venomoth: has venom on its fucking name
Ian: yeah, that should be psychic
Farfetchd is really underated here. In early gens it gets early swords dance and can sweep teams quite easily.
Was looking for this comment. Farfetch'd is really good, very much above average in gen 1, and since Jan accounts for gen 1 in the other pokemon, that F-tier ranking was certainly a miss.
Also, isn't Mr. Mime a bit low?
Arcanine and Jolteon carried me through my entire first Moon run with Decidueye.
This is what happens when the drummer gets the mic smh
its a weird comment but i love the little sound behind the intro, it gives me peace
Gen 1 Nidoking was cracked dude. He is used in every playthrough ever as the main pokemon...
All experts agree that Venosaur is the best of the starters.
I think Venusaur is better