Pretty surreal seeing you guys using my 13 year old footage of SF2. I was still a teenager and got really exited discovering that stage and seeing no info about it online at the time. I almost never miss a video and been a fan of your channel for almost 10 years. Keep up the good work!
Oddly enough, Akka Arrh's gameplay seems to be in fitting with some of the ways Polybius's gameplay has been described in accounts, and the game's extremely limited early testing might have made an imprint on the very few kids who spent their quarters on it... probably coincidence, though.
There's multiple games that tie in a little bit to the possibility of the Polybius myth. Cube Quest is another possible source - that game is super trippy, and it broke down a lot.
The fact that Dylan Cuthbert was pleased to find out Star Fox 2 finally got released tickles me. The game's fun, at least in my opinion, but it can be a little stressful.
Star Fox 2 has a learning curve but once you start figuring out how to manage the onslaught of enemies the game is insanely fun. As dated as it is I find it more fun than anything that followed after Star Fox 64. Sorry not sorry.
While I understand the series of events under which Akka Arrh eventually made it's way to the public, at the same time it would've been an absolute travesty to have lost this game to time. It really is a very good and challenging game, so I'm glad the story has a happy ending there, and Minter's reimagining is absolutely stellar.
@@xJC4Rx im pretty sure thats a different game While it shares the engine for rayman 2, its a completely different game the ps1 version of rayman 2 has the actual prototype of rayman 2 which is a 2d platformer like Rayman1
@@frumpysnorfls5088 Half joke, half truth. Though I don't know what prototype you guys speak, I've not heard of it before. From what I recall, TT was a tech demo for them to get their feet wet and see what was possible for Rayman in 3D. A relatively safe approach and preserving their IP to make sure they don't make a sub par game.
The funny thing is that the first time I ever heard of Drac’s Night Out was from the AVGN’s Halloween review of the Dracula games. XD He even was wearing the Reebok Pumps in that episode. XD
I literally watched that episode before watching this video because I noticed something similar between the two thumbnails, that something was Drac's Night Out. I remember now that James had talked about it, playing a repro cart and mentioning that it was unreleased. Now I know the full story.
the coolest thing about the final build of Star Fox 2 is that you can play it on an actual SNES hardware as a repro cart. keeping this amazing game console alive far longer past it's expiration date.
@@Arcona that's unfortunate. thankfully I still have my refurbished Grade A SNES that works perfectly fine. so, I say to those who have a working SNES, it's still worth owning it as a repro cart. to me, repro carts are a great way to keep the system alive.
You know, it might be a controversial move, but until Atari had their official release of Akka Arrh, I can appreciate the efforts of the man that snuck in and copied the files behind the owner's back. He just wanted to give others the chance to play this game, seems like the owner only cared for the fame behind out otherwise he would have done it himself ages ago. There's also a chance this guy who went through all this trouble also motivated Atari's decision to officially release it.
Yeah the ethics are a bit messy. On the one hand the collectors holding onto unreleased games just so they can increase their worth and prestige is definitely selfish but that still doesn't give someone the right to just steal it. Oh well, what's done is done.
I 100% support the person who uploaded the rom. That collector was literally just hoarding *two* cabinets of the game, and preventing others from playing. History deserves to be observed by all, not just a select few.
Yeah the only objection the collector would have to releasing it is he wants to make more money off his collection. In which case he's not a collector, he's an investor.
Like seriously…..you have to be a real piece of shit and entitled to think that you can own someone else’s creation or work of art just because you paid for the original copy… Just because you own the Mona Lisa doesn’t mean I’m not allowed to know what it looks like.
Could Akka Arrh be the origins of the Polybius urban legend? The dates only a year off, the game play sounds like it could match, the flashing lights could cause a lot of the symptoms playing Polybius was said to cause. The men in black could be people coming to check on how popular the game was. The supposed long lines for the game could be people misremember and attributing lines for Robotron to Akka Arrh. I could be way off here it just seems like a lot fits.
It’s certainly possible. If an event isn’t considered important enough to record for posterity, it only lives on through word of mouth. And at that point, it becomes a game of telephone. The question to ask is, if your theory is correct, then where did the name Polybius come from.
@@lalehiandeity1649 I do know that Polybius was a greek historian born in Arcadia. With this in mined if I had to guess, and this is a big guess, I would say that someone heard disruptions of the game and since no one seemed to be able to remember the name of the game Polybius was used as some sort of joke. To back this up a bit I believe the supposed company name for the game as come to be know as Sinnesloschen which means something along the lines of "deletion of sense". Could be interpreted as a reference to the supposed side affects of the game and a cheeky jab at people loosing there sense over this game nobody can confirm even existed.
Akka Ahhr makes me wonder... could it be what inspired Polybius? The gameplay looks like every Polybius remake I've ever seen. The tempest like gameplay, plus the unique (and I imagine migraine inducing) zoom mechanic, plus the rapidly changing colors... Hell, being a market test makes sense as to the whole "vanished as soon as it appeared" part if the story. The only thing missing is the popularity angle. I'm guessing that Akka Ahhr started rumors in the arcade community that, over time, morphed and contorted wildly before becoming the bassis for the Polybius story, which would then go on to achieve even higher levels of fame.
Data hoarders who hold one of a kind software hostage until the mediums rot are the scum of the earth and should be chastised at every opportunity. Games are meant to be enjoyed, not hidden away by greedy trolls.
I agree, I always find it so annoying when I find out that some collector has this super obscure thing and refuses to share it. they could still sell "the original experience" or something while still sharing the game (kinda what the nes and snes classic were imo)
Marble Madness 2 being dumped online out of nowhere is also an honorable mention. Due to the unknown source of the dump it seems that it was stolen from a private collector as well
@@vidjenko8349 *_*sigh*_* Not only was that comment in jest; the actual fact is copying things held under copyright *is* illegal. The arcade would be fair game as no-one would be rushing to enforce the copyright on something archived for posterity, but do you think copying a Nintendo Switch game from a _game store_ would mean Nintendo couldn't defend their copyright?
12:35 This is not the worst way. Remember that the whole reason that some rare arcades don't get their rom online is just so collectors can make more money out of their cabinets due to "rarity". So I would say it's the only way to bypass greedy.
Little disappointed that Marble Madness 2 wasn't mentioned even though one of the background tracks in the video was a track from the original Marble Madness.
man when i saw Akka Arrh on the Atari 50 collection i was like "no fucking way". I wish more game compilations could be like that tbh, esp wish sega would be cool like that instead of rehashing genesis comps every gen
Hot take: while I definitely don’t encourage people to impersonate someone to break into a house to steal something, I can’t find myself mad at the guy. The “collector” didn’t have one but TWO cabinets of the game? He had it for years and knew people wanted it dumped so they could play. The only reason I can see he did that was for the power trip of having cabinets ye would graciously let people play at events from time to time. The fact he had an OG cabinet is cool and novel as hell already. There really wasn’t any other reason to keep the game to himself like that.
Normally I'd be opposed to theft, but is there really anything wrong with what he did? From a material standpoint, nothing was stolen. The ROM itself is still on the machine. From a value standpoint, perhaps you could argue that he stole the value that having the game undumped brought. Though this is another ethical debate in and of itself. And it certainly wasn't his obligation to dump the ROM. However, I do think that as a rule anyone who finds a piece of game history should dump it and upload it if possible. Keeping it to yourself is a disservice to the gaming community, since who knows when your cabinet will die? If that cabinet dies, there's a good chance that the last copy of the game dies along with it. So I'd say what the thief did was for the greater good.
She looks like she could be a quarter-black. The real issue is that "African AMERICAN" is a silly term for a part-black character in the Star Fox universe.
Huge props for the dude who dumped the ROM of Akka Arrh online while ensuring that the private collector who refused to dump it would get that sweet taste of karma immediately after.
@Frostiikin They spent their money on it. They would give people a chance to play it at conventions. They aren't obligated to share it with the community. You sound like an entitled child. By the logic, if your house was broken into and anything stolen could be sold to feed the hungry, and they can claim they're doing it for the preservation of mankind. Oh...but that's right, it's affecting you personally. So it's not allowed.
‘When video game preservation is done right, it can tell a good story’ The only time it seems to go right is when the original owner ‘doesn’t know the worth’ of what they have. Otherwise they just hoard it. Basically ensuring no one gets it.
I don't know if the character was african considering her colored sprite was so light. She looks more like Pauline. I'm surprised Humans exist in the Star fox Universe though, since I was under the impression it was a zootopia world where Humans didn't exist.
@@mds_main one would think that, but after Krystal's appearance and dinosaurs existing, who's to say. Obviously fur/animal mascot characters will have more appeal than people. Still, regular humans were added into Zelda so. anything is possible.
Ypu should include Nightdive studio's Shadow Man remaster in one of these videos. The remaster restored a TON of cut content. Og devs had notes and early beta footage of several levels and NightDive built the levels from scratch, going so far to include the location of a single early screenshot which showed the cut Junkyard map.
0:15 man I loved playing that game with my dad. 16 possible weapons to choose from before each level. No internet or guide to tell you which one, you simply had to play to try each one
12:22 the dude had TWO original cabinets of the game. Even if he had released the ROM, his investment wouldn’t have lost money. Having the original hardware is HUGE. Collectors like this that refuse to show the rest of the world rare art and hold it tight to their chests are little goblin people without a soul. I hope every rare ROM this dude ever had gets stolen and uploaded to the internet along with every other collector like him
I like how in the process of virtue signalling by ignoring characters like Doc Louis, DYKG not only insinuated that black people are animals, but they also assumed a character who clearly has no black skin is black based on weird white person instinct. Yeah, this is why you should just avoid virtual signalling all together, DYKG.
Is it just assembled that the female human character is black? Seems like an odd assumption, especially given her skin color being pretty far from black. It’s also odd to me that people talking about dumping old carts (EPROMs) as though it requires expertise. For around $25 anyone could dump those tiny EPROMs. Reassembling the PRG and CHR ROMs is literally as easy as copying and pasting them into a single hex file and saving it. The only thing you would need to know is which Rom goes first. But, seeing as there are only 2 possible configurations, anyone can do it.
12:48 don't see anything wrong, the collector is just pissed that the cabinet lost value, since it's no longer the sole way to play it Stealing one of a kind objects from "collectors" is morally right, it's not even stealing in this case, since they kept the machine
Star Fox and Star Fox 2 was a major reason I got a SNES Classic! That and Donkey Kong Country which I watched my cousin play a long time ago. Sadly, she lost it when her house got flooded.
"AKA-R went up against a little game, maybe you've heard of it- Robotron!" You know, for the first time I've heard that phrase used for something that I actually haven't heard of.
I've said this time and time again at other places. If Star Fox 2 didn't officially come out on the SNES Mini in 2017, we most certainly would have gotten the final build from the source code Gigaleaks in July 2020 -- along with all the other early builds, such the 1995 CES one -- anyhow. Cool to think that it was sort of fated to come out eventually. Also, hi. (03:42)
When you mentioned "Computer Space, the first commercially available video game", it got me thinking of a future video I'd like to see: Before Pong. For so many years the common knowledge was that Pong was the first video game, and now we know that's not exactly true, but I don't think many people really know what else came first or who else had a hand in it.
I have some news for you : Ahoy did this masterpiece of a video on the subject called "The First Video Game". You definitely should watch it, trying to find what was the first video game and going through many games of the era.
@@NukeA6 It's not OXO. Oh, don't simply look at the timer, this video will be 1000% worth your time because that question is not as simple as it seems, it dives well into the context of the time (and the history of the answer given to that question), the presentation and voiceover is amazing, the arguments are rock solid in their logic and pretty much everyone in the comments just constantly states how much it absolutely didn't feel like an hour in a very positive sense. This video is one of my favourites on TH-cam, *period*, for its outstanding quality. I don't say that often to anyone, but you absolutely should watch it.
Pretty weird calling the woman in Star Fox 2 an “African American woman”, when it’s a Japanese game with British programmers. Why would she be American?
I've never seen that picture of Frank lighting a cigarette with a copy of the first Superman comic, but man did it give me a big laugh this morning lmao
I'm from Brazil, and I'm pretty sure that I still have that Super Game Power magazine somewhere in the wardrobe. Never realized its cover was talking about SF2 up until now, I've never played the Snes game and followed the series after the N64 entry.
I have no empathy for collectors who don't dump the roms of rare arcades. So I'm happy Akka Arrh was "stolen". Yeah, it wasn't the nicest thing to do, but when people intentionally withhold things they have no right to, then it's hard for me to feel sorry for them.
This is one of those situations where between good and bad, this lies in the Grey area between. I side with the romdump thief cause he started a chain reaction that ended in a positive outcome. His actions helped the people of the gaming community and industry. The collector hoarded it just to satisfy his own selfish desire for having rare value; fuck him!
This video just reminds me that private collectors are an absolute plague on the world of video game preservation. I hope more people find new ways to steal other unreleased ROMs and relics off of these people. The fact that this is an ongoing issue makes me irrationally upset
Im going to sound like an old man, but it's ok to say, brother, especially when brother isn't even being abbreviated. I mean, in the 90s, we didn't even say 'Super Mario Bros.' we said 'Super Mario Brothers'. Oh well
Cause I Still Believe In Miracles I Swear I've Seem A Few, And I Know There'll Come A Day Where You Can See My Point Of View, I Believe In Friends And Magic And Thats Why I BELIEVE IN YOU!
Man, I have to say it again and again but not releasing StarFox2 was such a stupid move on Nintendos part. Not only was it already finished, both the spriteart and 3d-polygons/3d-effects look more than decent enough to make up for any discrepancy in regards to the 3d-power of the next console-generations.
Ah, the most important of crossroads for any professional heist-taker: do you steal Splatoon Amiibos from a truck, or an NES game about apes with laser guns?
I'd like to point out in the photo of DeMar and Jarvis, the annotation is actually the reverse of how it should be, Eugene Jarvis is actually the one on the right.
Wake me up whenever someone uploads EXTREMELY obscure saga "Johnny Megatone" from DirecTV Games. I played that thing with a tv remote control man, A REMOTE CONTROL. Seriously those games were awesome (and infuriating). Man went to the jungle, atlantis, the future/space I think? It was wild.
Great video. Not to date myself here lol. But was anyone else scared to play Sinistar? Anytime I saw it in the arcade I wouldn’t play it. It was one of those games I was intimidated by as a kid. I’m sure I’m not the only has a game like that though 😅😅😅
The National Video Game Museum in Frisco, Texas has had a physical copy of StarFox 2 for awhile before the SNES Classic was released. The description next to it doesn't say where they got their copy, just that the game was 95% complete. At least that's what it said back in 2017 when I visited, so it may have been updated since.
I’m always surprised when I find out game companies keep all the source code for all of their games, especially the unreleased ones, but I’m always just as surprised when I find out a game’s source code is lost.
Pretty surreal seeing you guys using my 13 year old footage of SF2. I was still a teenager and got really exited discovering that stage and seeing no info about it online at the time. I almost never miss a video and been a fan of your channel for almost 10 years. Keep up the good work!
What's the source of your profile pic, you man of impeccable taste?
Oddly enough, Akka Arrh's gameplay seems to be in fitting with some of the ways Polybius's gameplay has been described in accounts, and the game's extremely limited early testing might have made an imprint on the very few kids who spent their quarters on it... probably coincidence, though.
I don't think it's that big of a coincidence, it makes a lot of sense and its headaching graphics can be part of the "brainwashing" side of Polybius
There's multiple games that tie in a little bit to the possibility of the Polybius myth. Cube Quest is another possible source - that game is super trippy, and it broke down a lot.
The fact that Dylan Cuthbert was pleased to find out Star Fox 2 finally got released tickles me. The game's fun, at least in my opinion, but it can be a little stressful.
Star Fox 2 has a learning curve but once you start figuring out how to manage the onslaught of enemies the game is insanely fun. As dated as it is I find it more fun than anything that followed after Star Fox 64. Sorry not sorry.
While I understand the series of events under which Akka Arrh eventually made it's way to the public, at the same time it would've been an absolute travesty to have lost this game to time. It really is a very good and challenging game, so I'm glad the story has a happy ending there, and Minter's reimagining is absolutely stellar.
The rayman team was incredibly talented for putting the rayman 2 prototype in the official rayman 2 game
and only on the ps1 port... probably because it was the only version of the game that was far along in developement to actually be usable
I love Rayman 2 so much, partly because there's so many different versions of it
The Rayman 2 prototype goes by the name of Tonic Trouble.
@@xJC4Rx im pretty sure thats a different game
While it shares the engine for rayman 2, its a completely different game
the ps1 version of rayman 2 has the actual prototype of rayman 2 which is a 2d platformer like Rayman1
@@frumpysnorfls5088 Half joke, half truth.
Though I don't know what prototype you guys speak, I've not heard of it before.
From what I recall, TT was a tech demo for them to get their feet wet and see what was possible for Rayman in 3D. A relatively safe approach and preserving their IP to make sure they don't make a sub par game.
The funny thing is that the first time I ever heard of Drac’s Night Out was from the AVGN’s Halloween review of the Dracula games. XD He even was wearing the Reebok Pumps in that episode. XD
I was wondering why it seemed familiar
I literally watched that episode before watching this video because I noticed something similar between the two thumbnails, that something was Drac's Night Out. I remember now that James had talked about it, playing a repro cart and mentioning that it was unreleased. Now I know the full story.
the coolest thing about the final build of Star Fox 2 is that you can play it on an actual SNES hardware as a repro cart. keeping this amazing game console alive far longer past it's expiration date.
My SNES has GPU rot, so I'll stick the the SNES mini one :'(
@@Arcona that's unfortunate. thankfully I still have my refurbished Grade A SNES that works perfectly fine. so, I say to those who have a working SNES, it's still worth owning it as a repro cart. to me, repro carts are a great way to keep the system alive.
Makes sense, because it is a ROM.
@@Arcona However, if you have a Switch, you can actually play this game on the Super NES NSO service.
@@jeremyriley1238 Rather play it on the snes mini
You know, it might be a controversial move, but until Atari had their official release of Akka Arrh, I can appreciate the efforts of the man that snuck in and copied the files behind the owner's back. He just wanted to give others the chance to play this game, seems like the owner only cared for the fame behind out otherwise he would have done it himself ages ago. There's also a chance this guy who went through all this trouble also motivated Atari's decision to officially release it.
I think Atari just used that ROM he uploaded. I think Atari had no copy of it
Not controversial. The guy with the cab was a hoarding douchebag.
Yeah the ethics are a bit messy. On the one hand the collectors holding onto unreleased games just so they can increase their worth and prestige is definitely selfish but that still doesn't give someone the right to just steal it. Oh well, what's done is done.
I 100% support the person who uploaded the rom. That collector was literally just hoarding *two* cabinets of the game, and preventing others from playing. History deserves to be observed by all, not just a select few.
Yeah the only objection the collector would have to releasing it is he wants to make more money off his collection.
In which case he's not a collector, he's an investor.
0:00 Starfox 2
7:45 Akka Arrh
13:40 Conquest
19:30 Drac's Night Out
bro let people watch the video
Thank you for putting in the time stamps.
incredibly based to disguise yourself as a repairman just to rip the ROM of a game a "collector" refuses to release
Yeah, I doubt that collector has any intention of sharing like that.
Well fucking said. I feel like the owner snitched on himself by telling this story, what a dweeb haha.
I need an Oceans Eleven movie but it's about secretly leaking arcade roms
Like seriously…..you have to be a real piece of shit and entitled to think that you can own someone else’s creation or work of art just because you paid for the original copy…
Just because you own the Mona Lisa doesn’t mean I’m not allowed to know what it looks like.
"Collector" was a dbag for not hoarding it to get some sick satisfaction out of keeping something good away from others
13:36 "Despite its controversial ROM release..."
lol That release was a direct cause of the happy ending it got.
Hearing about collectors that would rarther have exclusivity then preservation always pisses me off
It's morally correct to steal a greedy collector's collection
Could Akka Arrh be the origins of the Polybius urban legend? The dates only a year off, the game play sounds like it could match, the flashing lights could cause a lot of the symptoms playing Polybius was said to cause. The men in black could be people coming to check on how popular the game was. The supposed long lines for the game could be people misremember and attributing lines for Robotron to Akka Arrh. I could be way off here it just seems like a lot fits.
Literally the moment they showed it on screen I said aloud "That's fuckin Polybius."
That could be a contributor to the legend, yeah. It's a logical explanation for some aspects of the story. Pretty cool.
It’s certainly possible. If an event isn’t considered important enough to record for posterity, it only lives on through word of mouth. And at that point, it becomes a game of telephone. The question to ask is, if your theory is correct, then where did the name Polybius come from.
That... is actually a very intriguing theory. That might possibly be an avenue worth investigating.
@@lalehiandeity1649 I do know that Polybius was a greek historian born in Arcadia. With this in mined if I had to guess, and this is a big guess, I would say that someone heard disruptions of the game and since no one seemed to be able to remember the name of the game Polybius was used as some sort of joke. To back this up a bit I believe the supposed company name for the game as come to be know as Sinnesloschen which means something along the lines of "deletion of sense". Could be interpreted as a reference to the supposed side affects of the game and a cheeky jab at people loosing there sense over this game nobody can confirm even existed.
Akka Ahhr makes me wonder... could it be what inspired Polybius? The gameplay looks like every Polybius remake I've ever seen. The tempest like gameplay, plus the unique (and I imagine migraine inducing) zoom mechanic, plus the rapidly changing colors...
Hell, being a market test makes sense as to the whole "vanished as soon as it appeared" part if the story. The only thing missing is the popularity angle.
I'm guessing that Akka Ahhr started rumors in the arcade community that, over time, morphed and contorted wildly before becoming the bassis for the Polybius story, which would then go on to achieve even higher levels of fame.
Data hoarders who hold one of a kind software hostage until the mediums rot are the scum of the earth and should be chastised at every opportunity.
Games are meant to be enjoyed, not hidden away by greedy trolls.
I agree, I always find it so annoying when I find out that some collector has this super obscure thing and refuses to share it.
they could still sell "the original experience" or something while still sharing the game (kinda what the nes and snes classic were imo)
Dude deserved the game to be stolen cause he clearly wasnt gonna share it
@@jamesherman3750 wasn't even stolen. If I take pictures of a book you own I didn't take your book away.
This is the most 1st world shit I’ve ever read. Pathetic
@@legomeaker101potato software piracy is so based
wait, so AVGN has a rare version or a reproduction cartridge of Drac's!?
Wow what one learns these days
He says its a repro in the episode
Marble Madness 2 being dumped online out of nowhere is also an honorable mention. Due to the unknown source of the dump it seems that it was stolen from a private collector as well
I mean private collectors are considered jerks to many people for not preserving the media digitally since they will just rot there.
Can't "steal" what you copy.
@@Mrshoujo *Copyright Lawyer* would like a word...
@@kanedaku it’s probably more complicated than that. Arcade prototype owners usually don’t own the rights to the code.
@@vidjenko8349 *_*sigh*_* Not only was that comment in jest; the actual fact is copying things held under copyright *is* illegal. The arcade would be fair game as no-one would be rushing to enforce the copyright on something archived for posterity, but do you think copying a Nintendo Switch game from a _game store_ would mean Nintendo couldn't defend their copyright?
I’ve been into lost media for years now but it’s still always interesting some of my favorite stuff to get into
I’m always fascinated by how lost games suddenly pop up years later.
Like these games, I too was lost seemingly forever. But then my mom remembered she left me at the store and returned.
Mine is still out getting milk
Bruh.
My mom talked to me for 20 minutes before she noticed and returned😂
@@LegendStormcrow lmao mine would have twigged to my absence immediately. "they're being quiet for once; whats up??"
@@TOBAPNW_ Mine should have, but is too self absorbed.
Gotta pay a bit of respect to the thief, Ming. They tricked the genius collector man with the oldest trick in the book. The Fake Repairman lol
12:35 This is not the worst way. Remember that the whole reason that some rare arcades don't get their rom online is just so collectors can make more money out of their cabinets due to "rarity". So I would say it's the only way to bypass greedy.
I hope some day we'll get to see what happened to Star Fox 3 through Star Fox 63.
there never was a 3rd title
@@mattalan6618 Don't ruin the bit.
I’m still waiting for super Mario 65
Little disappointed that Marble Madness 2 wasn't mentioned even though one of the background tracks in the video was a track from the original Marble Madness.
man when i saw Akka Arrh on the Atari 50 collection i was like "no fucking way". I wish more game compilations could be like that tbh, esp wish sega would be cool like that instead of rehashing genesis comps every gen
Yes, I've felt that way for years. I'd especially like to see a complete and translated version of Shining Force III get released.
Hot take: while I definitely don’t encourage people to impersonate someone to break into a house to steal something, I can’t find myself mad at the guy. The “collector” didn’t have one but TWO cabinets of the game? He had it for years and knew people wanted it dumped so they could play. The only reason I can see he did that was for the power trip of having cabinets ye would graciously let people play at events from time to time.
The fact he had an OG cabinet is cool and novel as hell already. There really wasn’t any other reason to keep the game to himself like that.
Normally I'd be opposed to theft, but is there really anything wrong with what he did? From a material standpoint, nothing was stolen. The ROM itself is still on the machine.
From a value standpoint, perhaps you could argue that he stole the value that having the game undumped brought. Though this is another ethical debate in and of itself.
And it certainly wasn't his obligation to dump the ROM. However, I do think that as a rule anyone who finds a piece of game history should dump it and upload it if possible. Keeping it to yourself is a disservice to the gaming community, since who knows when your cabinet will die? If that cabinet dies, there's a good chance that the last copy of the game dies along with it. So I'd say what the thief did was for the greater good.
That woman in the SF2 data isn't African American, her palette data gives her light skin and reddish hair.
She looks like she could be a quarter-black. The real issue is that "African AMERICAN" is a silly term for a part-black character in the Star Fox universe.
Huge props for the dude who dumped the ROM of Akka Arrh online while ensuring that the private collector who refused to dump it would get that sweet taste of karma immediately after.
Shoutouts to Gideon Zhi and crew for cleaning up and releasing a "production" build of SF2
I hope DYKG would do a feature of Sky Skipper one day. This Nintendo title was so obscure it makes StarFox 2 look like StarFox 64.
I have to say, I literally could not give a damn about an arcade collector hoarding an unreleased game. Those kind of people can go straight to hell
This is so cool!!!! You guys are doing the game community wonders!!!!
"Whoa. I thought you were dead."
"My death was.. gently exaggerated"
Funny meme.
Yeah, we're back on this again.
yeesh the guy who was letting the akka arrh arcade just collect dust sounds like a real tool, kudos to the madlad who leaked the game online 👍
the Akka Arrh bandit is a hero. the "private collector" should've just dumped the damn game themselves for the sake of preservation of a rare game.
Agreed. The "collector" was just hoarding video game history for selfish profit.
@@That_Lady_Charlie You don't sound entitled at all.
@@That_Lady_Charlie what profit? I'd say it costs money just to share the game at conventions given how heavy the whole game cabinet is.
@Frostiikin They spent their money on it. They would give people a chance to play it at conventions. They aren't obligated to share it with the community. You sound like an entitled child. By the logic, if your house was broken into and anything stolen could be sold to feed the hungry, and they can claim they're doing it for the preservation of mankind. Oh...but that's right, it's affecting you personally. So it's not allowed.
@@LoliconSamalik Not to mention gas, booth fees and tickets. They're just a bunch of entitled brats.
‘When video game preservation is done right, it can tell a good story’
The only time it seems to go right is when the original owner ‘doesn’t know the worth’ of what they have. Otherwise they just hoard it. Basically ensuring no one gets it.
11:03 that screenshot of the Beavis & Butt-Head arcade game feels like such a tease...
I don't know if the character was african considering her colored sprite was so light. She looks more like Pauline.
I'm surprised Humans exist in the Star fox Universe though, since I was under the impression it was a zootopia world where Humans didn't exist.
Considering that character was scrapped, I think it's safe to assume humans do not exist in the current Star Fox universe.
@@mds_main one would think that, but after Krystal's appearance and dinosaurs existing, who's to say. Obviously fur/animal mascot characters will have more appeal than people. Still, regular humans were added into Zelda so. anything is possible.
Always great that lost games get found and put out for people to play and see.
Ypu should include Nightdive studio's Shadow Man remaster in one of these videos. The remaster restored a TON of cut content. Og devs had notes and early beta footage of several levels and NightDive built the levels from scratch, going so far to include the location of a single early screenshot which showed the cut Junkyard map.
0:15 man I loved playing that game with my dad. 16 possible weapons to choose from before each level. No internet or guide to tell you which one, you simply had to play to try each one
12:22 the dude had TWO original cabinets of the game. Even if he had released the ROM, his investment wouldn’t have lost money. Having the original hardware is HUGE. Collectors like this that refuse to show the rest of the world rare art and hold it tight to their chests are little goblin people without a soul. I hope every rare ROM this dude ever had gets stolen and uploaded to the internet along with every other collector like him
Wouldn't one of the earlier examples of black representation in a Nintendo game be Doc Louis and Mike Tyson from Mike Tyson's Punch-out?
Yep. I smell virtue signaling.
The ironic thing is that the colored portrait is anything but black while the narrator says that.
I like how in the process of virtue signalling by ignoring characters like Doc Louis, DYKG not only insinuated that black people are animals, but they also assumed a character who clearly has no black skin is black based on weird white person instinct. Yeah, this is why you should just avoid virtual signalling all together, DYKG.
The guy that "stole" that ROM should've taken a dump on the guy's carpet before leaving.
I wonder how well Starfox 2 would have done had it released when it was supposed to.
Did you know? They spent a lot of money bidding on ebay for these and got scammed 80% of the time
More lost videogame videos please!😊
"All sorts of creatures...gazelles, bison, sheep, lemurs, pigs, dogs...and African American women".
Bruh
Whoa, I’ll be damned. Sweet vid DYKG. Thank you.
HUMANS?! In MY STARFOX?! That's actually really cool! I'd love to of known more about that.
Is it just assembled that the female human character is black? Seems like an odd assumption, especially given her skin color being pretty far from black.
It’s also odd to me that people talking about dumping old carts (EPROMs) as though it requires expertise. For around $25 anyone could dump those tiny EPROMs. Reassembling the PRG and CHR ROMs is literally as easy as copying and pasting them into a single hex file and saving it. The only thing you would need to know is which Rom goes first. But, seeing as there are only 2 possible configurations, anyone can do it.
12:48 don't see anything wrong, the collector is just pissed that the cabinet lost value, since it's no longer the sole way to play it
Stealing one of a kind objects from "collectors" is morally right, it's not even stealing in this case, since they kept the machine
Star Fox and Star Fox 2 was a major reason I got a SNES Classic! That and Donkey Kong Country which I watched my cousin play a long time ago. Sadly, she lost it when her house got flooded.
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"AKA-R went up against a little game, maybe you've heard of it- Robotron!"
You know, for the first time I've heard that phrase used for something that I actually haven't heard of.
I've said this time and time again at other places.
If Star Fox 2 didn't officially come out on the SNES Mini in 2017, we most certainly would have gotten the final build from the source code Gigaleaks in July 2020 -- along with all the other early builds, such the 1995 CES one -- anyhow.
Cool to think that it was sort of fated to come out eventually.
Also, hi. (03:42)
You've said it time and time again? Well stop it dude.
@@videostash413help me
That “repair man” did the right thing by copying the files and posting them
star fox 2 is so fun, I honestly love it
Regarding the Star Fox 2 characters: Not all black people are "African American", my friends.
3:35
Not all black people are African American😂😂
When you mentioned "Computer Space, the first commercially available video game", it got me thinking of a future video I'd like to see: Before Pong. For so many years the common knowledge was that Pong was the first video game, and now we know that's not exactly true, but I don't think many people really know what else came first or who else had a hand in it.
I have some news for you : Ahoy did this masterpiece of a video on the subject called "The First Video Game". You definitely should watch it, trying to find what was the first video game and going through many games of the era.
@@Game_Hero So it's OXO (1952)? I don't want to watch an hour long video for a simple question.
@@NukeA6 It's not OXO. Oh, don't simply look at the timer, this video will be 1000% worth your time because that question is not as simple as it seems, it dives well into the context of the time (and the history of the answer given to that question), the presentation and voiceover is amazing, the arguments are rock solid in their logic and pretty much everyone in the comments just constantly states how much it absolutely didn't feel like an hour in a very positive sense. This video is one of my favourites on TH-cam, *period*, for its outstanding quality. I don't say that often to anyone, but you absolutely should watch it.
@@Game_Hero Alright, I'll give it a chance.
@@NukeA6 you won't regret it, tell me what you thought of it afterward, I'm curious :)
Pretty weird calling the woman in Star Fox 2 an “African American woman”, when it’s a Japanese game with British programmers. Why would she be American?
Jirard and his company should be considered heroes in the gaming community
I've never seen that picture of Frank lighting a cigarette with a copy of the first Superman comic, but man did it give me a big laugh this morning lmao
I'm from Brazil, and I'm pretty sure that I still have that Super Game Power magazine somewhere in the wardrobe. Never realized its cover was talking about SF2 up until now, I've never played the Snes game and followed the series after the N64 entry.
3:32
How do you know she’s _African American,_ exactly..?
She's not even black. You can tell that very clearly in the actual sprites.
I have no empathy for collectors who don't dump the roms of rare arcades. So I'm happy Akka Arrh was "stolen". Yeah, it wasn't the nicest thing to do, but when people intentionally withhold things they have no right to, then it's hard for me to feel sorry for them.
This is one of those situations where between good and bad, this lies in the Grey area between. I side with the romdump thief cause he started a chain reaction that ended in a positive outcome. His actions helped the people of the gaming community and industry. The collector hoarded it just to satisfy his own selfish desire for having rare value; fuck him!
Those Pumps have to be worth something crazy. Wild that one just got sold back then to a mall lol
Right?!
This video just reminds me that private collectors are an absolute plague on the world of video game preservation. I hope more people find new ways to steal other unreleased ROMs and relics off of these people. The fact that this is an ongoing issue makes me irrationally upset
Nah people just need to stop feeling so entitled that they think they too should have what someone else has.
Hoping one day Indy The Magical Kid a lost, mostly completed famicom game is recovered from its fate of being a display item and get leaked online.
Somewhere in an alternate universe, AVGN is played a game called penetration
It is fun to hear about games made by companies other than nintendo
Awesome work as always
Really happy about this Sunday schedule
Absolutely psychotic that a game which looks as fun as Star Fox 2 got shelved for so long for no good reason
Dracs Night Out should have been named Dracs Fresh Drip.
It would have sold like hotcakes.
Im going to sound like an old man, but it's ok to say, brother, especially when brother isn't even being abbreviated. I mean, in the 90s, we didn't even say 'Super Mario Bros.' we said 'Super Mario Brothers'. Oh well
Really hope Earthbound 64 gets found one day
Cause I Still Believe In Miracles I Swear I've Seem A Few, And I Know There'll Come A Day Where You Can See My Point Of View, I Believe In Friends And Magic And Thats Why I BELIEVE IN YOU!
17:03 I hear that sneaky Solar Jetman music in the background. Very fitting.
Haha glad you noticed!
I heard that and was like, "Yes, Solar Jetman love!" I was just showing that game to a roommate a couple days ago.
@@TyphinHoofbun All the Solar Jetman fans are coming out of nowhere today - you love to see it.
It's always a good day when did you know gaming uploads a video.
Man, I have to say it again and again but not releasing StarFox2 was such a stupid move on Nintendos part.
Not only was it already finished, both the spriteart and 3d-polygons/3d-effects look more than decent enough to make up for any discrepancy in regards to the 3d-power of the next console-generations.
4:03 i remember buying that SuperGamePower. I used to have all of them. Great Brazilian magazine.
"All sorts of creatures... like African American women."
Bruh, what.
There are probably so many amazing games sitting on hard drives and floppy discs that no one has ever heard of and will never see the light of day.
Please keep us informed on the progress of preserving Drac’s Night Out. 😊
Las Vegas police said “I can’t let you do that”
Ah, the most important of crossroads for any professional heist-taker: do you steal Splatoon Amiibos from a truck, or an NES game about apes with laser guns?
You had me at "apes with laser guns."
I'm still waiting for Kirby's Air Ride on the N64.
I'd like to point out in the photo of DeMar and Jarvis, the annotation is actually the reverse of how it should be, Eugene Jarvis is actually the one on the right.
These videos are always really cool!
Does the audio for this video seem slightly choppy to anyone else? Anyway, great vid!
Oh good it's not just me. I thought my phone or headphones were screwed up, but every other video works just fine.
Wake me up whenever someone uploads EXTREMELY obscure saga "Johnny Megatone" from DirecTV Games. I played that thing with a tv remote control man, A REMOTE CONTROL.
Seriously those games were awesome (and infuriating). Man went to the jungle, atlantis, the future/space I think? It was wild.
Good thing Star Fox 2 was also released on Switch Online so its official release isn't exclusive to a limited-edition overpriced hunk of plastic.
3:31 How does one tell that the women are "African-American"? Is their nationality stated anywhere? Does America even exist in the Star Fox universe?
the repairman pirate is my hero
Great video. Not to date myself here lol. But was anyone else scared to play Sinistar? Anytime I saw it in the arcade I wouldn’t play it. It was one of those games I was intimidated by as a kid. I’m sure I’m not the only has a game like that though 😅😅😅
All Sinistar wanted was a good meal.
The National Video Game Museum in Frisco, Texas has had a physical copy of StarFox 2 for awhile before the SNES Classic was released. The description next to it doesn't say where they got their copy, just that the game was 95% complete. At least that's what it said back in 2017 when I visited, so it may have been updated since.
5:52 I thought Mother 3 (N64) was the holy grail of lost Nintendo games?
3:31 How do we know they were African American?
I’m always surprised when I find out game companies keep all the source code for all of their games, especially the unreleased ones, but I’m always just as surprised when I find out a game’s source code is lost.