Lost Video Games That Were Found

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  • This video is a wild ride, so sit back, strap yourself in, and enjoy.
    Every now and then a little gaming miracle happens; lost video games are found and preserved for all to enjoy. Today we're looking at several cases of lost games, why they were cancelled, and how they were found, including Super Mario 64 Disk Version, Nuclear Rush and the SEGA VR, as well as The California Raisins and Bio Force Ape for the NES.
    Support Video Game Preservation!
    gamehistory.org/donate/
    / gamingalexandria
    / forestillusion
    Special Thanks: Daniel Lynch, Kenneth Hurley, Kevin McGrath, Marc Erikson, Rich Whitehouse, Ethan Johnson, Jeremy Smith, Frank Cifaldi, and CRV.
    Research/Writing by Dylan Mansfield
    Video Editing by TheCartoonGamer
    Voice Over by Rezrospect @Rezrospect
    Sources/Further Reading:
    Jimmy130. “Photos 64DD : Super Mario 64 Disk Version.” Gamekult, 14 June 2014, web.archive.org/web/201407011.... Accessed 1 May 2022.
    Jimmy130. “Super Mario 64 Disk Version - Les informations.” Gamekult, 24 June 2014, web.archive.org/web/201407181.... Accessed 1 May 2022.
    Lynch, Daniel. Personal Interview. 29 November 2020.
    Pesce, Mark. “Learning from History: How to make VR bigger than the Web.” GHVR, 27 June 2016, / tc-shanghai-2016 . Accessed 25 April 2022.
    Hurley, Kenneth. Personal Interview. 6 July 2020.
    Horowitz, Ken. “Interview: Kevin McGrath (Electronic Arts Programmer).” Sega-16, 1 February 2005, www.sega-16.com/2005/02/inter.... Accessed 25 April 2022
    “Heavy Equipment.” Sega Visions Magazine, August/September 1993, pp. 92-95.
    Robson, Wayde. “WARNING: 3D Video Hazardous to Your Health.” Audioholics, 25 June 2010, www.audioholics.com/editorial.... Accessed 25 April 2022.
    Whitehouse, Rich. “Sega VR Revived: Emulating An Unreleased Genesis Accessory.” The Video Game History Foundation, 20 November 2020, gamehistory.org/segavr/. Accessed 25 April 2022.
    “Adventures In The Magic Kingdom And The California Raisins Game.” Nintendo Power Magazine, November/December 1989, p. 95.
    Cifaldi, Frank. “Spotlight: California Raisins.” Lost Levels, 25 August 2003, www.lostlevels.org/200308/2003.... Accessed 25 April 2022.
    Johnson, Ethan. Interview with Rod Nakamoto. 9 October 2018.
    Lundrigan, Jeff. “Nintendo Game of the Month: The California Raisins.” Game Player’s Magazine, January 1991, pp. 64-69.
    Smith, Jeremy. Personal Interview. 14 April 2022.
    Banks, Mike. “California Raisins (Unreleased, Nintendo Entertainment System)” NintendoPlayer, 21 January 2003, www.nintendoplayer.com/unrelea.... Accessed 25 April 2022.
    Cowan, Danny. “Spotlight: Bio Force Ape.” Lost Levels, www.lostlevels.org/bio-force-ape/. Accessed 25 April 2022.
    CRV. Interview with Chuck Vowell. 2010.
    Meston, Zack. “Proto Patrol: Bio Farce Ape.” Video Game Collector Magazine, Spring 2006, p. 10.

    #SuperMario64 #BioForceApe #CaliforniaRaisins #SegaVR #SuperMario #Mario #SEGA #Nintendo #Capcom
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  • @DidYouKnowGamin
    @DidYouKnowGamin  ปีที่แล้ว +188

    If you're interested in video game preservation and want to help, here are some groups that are actively working to preserve lost video games:
    gamehistory.org/donate/
    www.patreon.com/gamingalexandria
    www.patreon.com/forestillusion

    • @Robinhoodie160
      @Robinhoodie160 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      booty

    • @kailiahseekings
      @kailiahseekings ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I want a game about cooking steak.

    • @lilbill7385
      @lilbill7385 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I once heard about this lost nes game and I can’t remember it’s name. A guy once had it and several people wanted to buy it from him. He then destroyed it and posted a photo of it.
      Edit: it’s called bioforce ape

    • @lilbill7385
      @lilbill7385 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kailiahseekings you’ll love cooking mama

    • @Vulpas
      @Vulpas ปีที่แล้ว +1

      18:09 A gay diaper wearing monkey saving his "family". Amazing.

  • @SuperiorGothBun
    @SuperiorGothBun ปีที่แล้ว +1953

    The story about the California Raisins prototype is nuts. Starting out with being given to a retro gamer worker after someone's kid wanted an xbox, to the poor guy losing his life over an unfortunate argument. Brandon Murphy could have easily sold it for thousands, but knew something like it deserved to be shared with the world rather than held hostage for the sake of value. Dude will forever be a legend

    • @benvictim
      @benvictim ปีที่แล้ว +184

      sadly not all lost games are that lucky. There is a copy of the Resident evil 1.5 (the 80% build) that was found. The collector refuses to sell it or even dump it. So instead we have the 40% that was obtained that people are trying to rebuild.

    • @Pacmanfan-po9rn
      @Pacmanfan-po9rn ปีที่แล้ว

      @@benvictim hope someone steals it from the wanker

    • @Rihcterwilker
      @Rihcterwilker ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@benvictim is there any footage of that?

    • @benvictim
      @benvictim ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@Rihcterwilker of the 40% build being remade? Yeah lots.

    • @gaylordfocker7990
      @gaylordfocker7990 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      You have a really poor definition of legend. It was just a random dude who got lucky and came across something rare.
      You nerds are calling people who buy things legends? Stop.

  • @DYKG_Clips
    @DYKG_Clips ปีที่แล้ว +742

    That Bio Force Ape story was a wild ride.

    • @jgstrider
      @jgstrider ปีที่แล้ว +33

      I know right? Totally bananas.

    • @Daniel_Coffman
      @Daniel_Coffman ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not terribly surprised that people went ape after seeing the smashed cartridge. Little did anyone know that he was just monkeying around.
      I'm glad I'm not the only one who was thinking of cracking puns, lol.

    • @StriderVM
      @StriderVM ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I was there when it happened as a lurker. The salt and drama was legendary. It was almost as bad as the RE1.5 Playstation Museum drama.

    • @Stratelier
      @Stratelier ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Not to mention that footage -- we're talking _Sonic the Hedgehog_ levels of scrolling speed in all directions, on an 8-bit platform with only two screens' worth of VRAM.

    • @adamk8639
      @adamk8639 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The game looks insane. Like it seems almost beyond SNES level in regards to speed and the moves and stuff.

  • @sehtuk3953
    @sehtuk3953 ปีที่แล้ว +549

    It's wild to think that the Crazy Raisins game would still be lost today if the kid it was meant to go to hadn't gotten an XBOX. Really makes you think about how many lost or valuable prototypes are just lying around with people who have no idea about what they own.

    • @secretjazz93
      @secretjazz93 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      yo I once bought Mario Paint with the original Box, Mouse and Mousepad at a flea marked for 6 bux. pretty sure the woman who sold it had no idea what it was and how much it was worth. I ended up giving her my last 5 bucks, which is a pretty sweet deal, everything worked perfectly and looked really new. stuff like that happens all the time if you only care to look hard enough

    • @sheshin
      @sheshin ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Yeah man, sometimes you get maybe not prototypes but some insane deals, a few years ago i got an OG Diablo 2 Battlechest CIB with the guide books, LoD expansion and the battlenet codes still unused (well unsued until i tried them expecting a “code already claimed” message but instead i got diablo 2 on a friend’s account) and everything like it was never touched on a flea market, i paid 2 bucks

    • @johnnykage4179
      @johnnykage4179 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I paid 5 bucks for a box with over 100 NES games and sold them for over 1000 bucks thanks to copies of festers quest and others. I also came across copies of Spiderman Carnage on Sega complete in "like new" conditiom for 2 bucks a piece. Its insane how much good stuff is just lying around for a few bucks.

    • @rorz999
      @rorz999 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I've never come across a prototype sadly, but I did once buy a 'not for release' promotional copy of a game (i.e. sent to reviewers ahead of release) from an auction for next to nothing

    • @agentorangecb1
      @agentorangecb1 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're all horrible people exploiting others for your own profit

  • @masterofdoom5000
    @masterofdoom5000 ปีที่แล้ว +203

    I started thinking "Huh a raisin game, neat" but now? I can only salute Brandon Murphys kindness and lament his short-lived life due to those bastards.

  • @Cyber_Akuma
    @Cyber_Akuma ปีที่แล้ว +115

    The one about the California Raisons is depressing all around. From how such a special game was canned by Capcom over something as silly as "It was not made in Japan", to how the collectors clearly just wanted it to keep in a collection and never let the public experience it considering how the offers dropped as soon as he released the ROM, to the horrible way Brandon Murphy was killed at such a young age by a roomate over just some stupid money and possessions.

    • @bad_atgames
      @bad_atgames ปีที่แล้ว +20

      He literally died for nothing. It genuinely broke my heart to hear that bit of the video. RIP a real one and I'm very much thankful for his contribution to game preservation.

    • @curleed85
      @curleed85 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When you think about it, Capcom did not have a legit reason for canceling that game. And you know something? Perhaps if they hadn’t done so, maybe that collector would still be around. Whatever the case, it was tragic to have heard about what happened.

  • @Dr0dd
    @Dr0dd ปีที่แล้ว +397

    That raisins story ended on a really bad note.
    Also insane to think that collectors would drop out just because a game has been released yet as if that makes it more valuable solely.

    • @StriderVM
      @StriderVM ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Actually thats one of bad sides (IMO) they're more like speculators than collectors, having the only real copy (digital or otherwise) would push the value so much it could turn into tens, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars on offers alone. So having a digital rom copy immediately drops its value as its mystique as something unseen is immediately gone.

    • @stevenwhuntva
      @stevenwhuntva ปีที่แล้ว +63

      The dumbest ones are the ones who buy an undumped cart and then refuse to dump it unless they "recoup their losses" for buying the cart via donations. Like. no buddy, you spent your money willingly and you knew what you were getting into. You "lost" nothing. Note that I don't mean donations to acquire the item like with Bio Force Ape; they'd always had the cart in-hand before.
      I haven't seen that in a while but I remember some dudes doing that with Genesis carts like 15 years ago.

    • @bloodeagle6458
      @bloodeagle6458 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Ya a real gamer would always let everyone play it there's no point onto holding it back unless pure greed and naro vision

    • @paxhumana2015
      @paxhumana2015 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevenwhuntva , if anyone deserves to die, it should be those ass wipes, and not people like Brandon Murphy. Dollars to doughnuts, Capcom probably paid the people that offed Mr. Murphy to off him, as that would open up some bad press that they did not need.

    • @Viper-py4pg
      @Viper-py4pg ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevenwhuntva Wow what an awful perspective to have, with genesis carts of all things too like its not that serious dog. You're 100% right! They chose to spend their money, now we have to pay you to not be selfish? FOH

  • @TheCartoonGamer8000
    @TheCartoonGamer8000 ปีที่แล้ว +559

    I learned more about the California Raisins editing this video than I ever knew prior.

    • @LegendStormcrow
      @LegendStormcrow ปีที่แล้ว +22

      You did good, bro. The style reminds me of old school Screw Attack and YT videos. I miss that era of internet videos. BTW, I remember looking at old consoles and wondering what the connection ports were for.

    • @marscaleb
      @marscaleb ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Here's something more you can learn about the California Raisins!
      During the production of Back to the Future, a shady marketing guy landed a deal to promote the Raisins in said movie by promising them that "this movie would do for California Raisins what ET did for Reece's Pieces." The deal was largely unknown to the director, Robert Zemeckis. He wasn't informed until late in production that he was supposed to add a promotion to the film. Ultimately, an ad for the California Raisins was placed on the bench a hobo is seen sleeping on near the end of the movie, and that was it.
      Both Robert Zemeckis and the California Rasins Advisory Board were very unhappy with the deal, and since then Zemeckis has avoided having any product promotions in his movies.

    • @nicholasmawhinney63
      @nicholasmawhinney63 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great vid brother 🔥

    • @JeremySmith-pw3uh
      @JeremySmith-pw3uh ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great work! I’m glad to now know the real reason the game was canceled.

    • @reinforcedpenisstem
      @reinforcedpenisstem ปีที่แล้ว

      That's how learning occurs usually, it increases, not decreases.

  • @axelprino
    @axelprino ปีที่แล้ว +231

    Bio Force Ape looks like one of those impossible games, how on earth did they squeeze that much speed on a smooth scrolling game on the NES? And that character animation is way beyond what I'd normally expect from that console.

    • @Dr0dd
      @Dr0dd ปีที่แล้ว +32

      the character animations remind me of the Prince of Persia sprites in how smooth and rotoscoped it looks

    • @RazorEdge2006
      @RazorEdge2006 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Maybe the game was designed for an enhancement chip? I doubt the base NES hardware could handle the fast multi-directional scrolling on display here. But with an enhancement chip, fast multi-directional scrolling is possible on the NES.

    • @axelprino
      @axelprino ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@RazorEdge2006 at that point in time it's almost certain that it used one of the enhancement chips, but even then it's pretty impressive. A game like Super Mario Bros 3 was capable of doing multi directional scrolling and was a technical showcase but the speed of Bio Force Ape is just bonkers, it's the kinda stuff I'd expect from the Genesis or SNES.

    • @zenkim6709
      @zenkim6709 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Dr0dd ... if I remember correctly, Seta would later develop a title for the SNES, "Nosferatu"
      ...an impressive game which played like Prince Of Persia as a sidescrolling brawler w/ platforming & puzzle-solving elements done in a Gothic horror style & theme, tho sadly it doesn't seem to have made as big of a splash as it should have.
      This further supports the appearance of Seta being auteurs within the gaming industry, focusing on both technical brilliance & artistic quality in their work.

    • @joemamr710
      @joemamr710 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The rom has been dumped, we already know for a fact it uses no enhancement chips and only contains a standard MMC3 mapper.

  • @matthewbertrand4139
    @matthewbertrand4139 ปีที่แล้ว +341

    ugh. those people who wanted to buy the California Raisins prototype to be the only ones to have it and not release it for documentation make me absolutely sick. if you're collecting rare and unreleased games with the intention of showing them off to friends like a strutting peacock and keeping them away from everyone else, you're in it for the wrong reasons. collect something whose history isn't as important if you want to actively hinder its preservation.

    • @marti5420
      @marti5420 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Literally all historical collectors. The fact that it doesn't happen more with video game history is the anomoly.

    • @unbekannt1269
      @unbekannt1269 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marti5420 bs

    • @marti5420
      @marti5420 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@unbekannt1269 explain how putting historically valued items in to a private collection doesn't hinder preservation?

    • @crudojoshuaricofort8795
      @crudojoshuaricofort8795 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marti5420 its different with other historical items. For games, the best way to preserve them is make them accessible using newer hardware. For ancient pieces that are so fragile you need to keep then inside glass to preserve its value else it will just turn to dust. Video games need to be shared to be preserved, ancient historical artifacts need to be kept untouched to be preserved. Some historical pieces can also only be preserved by a handful of professionals whose work consists of very specialized processes that cant be given to just an ordinary joe.

    • @marti5420
      @marti5420 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@crudojoshuaricofort8795 so you're telling me that buying a "lost game," putting it in to a private collection and not sharing it with the world would be a bad thing? The thing I've literally been saying the entire time? No way! 🙀
      and yes it's the same with historical pieces, historical pieces belong in museum collections to be shared with the world, not in private collections to be hoarded and potentially mistreat. You're literally same the exact same thing as I am in different words.

  • @trash9351
    @trash9351 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    that uh, raisins segment took a pretty dark and sharp turn my god

    • @lanewright1143
      @lanewright1143 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I know! Holy shit. Took a left turn and kept going.

  • @Mystemo
    @Mystemo ปีที่แล้ว +629

    The people saving these unreleased prototypes are my heroes, the people who buy them and refuse to let them be dumped are the scum of the earth.

    • @Mugiwara2k
      @Mugiwara2k ปีที่แล้ว +32

      I could not agree more

    • @Melechtna
      @Melechtna ปีที่แล้ว +55

      That's why they're butter golems

    • @smileprettymusic
      @smileprettymusic ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I disagree, dumping it reduces the value of it, they are just protecting their assets

    • @megamix5403
      @megamix5403 ปีที่แล้ว +109

      @@smileprettymusic lmao how is it an asset? You know, game cartridges don't last forever and are prone to degradation right? Whereas a ROM file can last for generations, why do you think we have retro rereleases all the time?

    • @Melechtna
      @Melechtna ปีที่แล้ว +57

      @@smileprettymusic I smell butter

  • @choo_choo_
    @choo_choo_ ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Jesus, seeing Bio Force Ape in action is unreal. The thing looks and runs like a modern-day indie game you could get on Steam, even down to the gamefeel. I kept waiting to hear that the footage was just a recreation, but the truth is even stranger than fiction. How the hell did they get that running so fluidly and dynamically on NES hardware?

  • @alanu4637
    @alanu4637 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I remember the murder, it was a huge deal. I actually worked with Angus as a server at Perkins on San Jose Blvd in Jacksonville when all that happened. I wasn’t close with him but there was definitely something off about him, something just didn’t feel right about him even before everything.

  • @princegoatcheese9379
    @princegoatcheese9379 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Bless the souls of those who chose to preserve these lost games rather than take the money and let then sit on a shelf forever.

  • @TheDominusIgnis
    @TheDominusIgnis ปีที่แล้ว +147

    Its funny you mentioned this as in a community I'm in we had the prototype to the cancelled Battlebots video game finally posted online after nearly 20 years being lost media. I played it and it's actually mostly playable, finding lost video games is truly a wonderful thing :)

  • @spongebobfan78
    @spongebobfan78 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    Cancelled and unreleased games being unearthed invokes a special feeling to the game, regardless of the game's actual quality.

  • @CaptainKreepingDeath
    @CaptainKreepingDeath ปีที่แล้ว +152

    The thought of the private collectors who enshrine prototypes like these and never release them fills me with a kind of rage I can't entirely understand. Absolute scumbags

    • @lonelykitchen
      @lonelykitchen ปีที่แล้ว

      pirates like you that think games should be ripped so pirates can emulate it for free are far worse.

    • @crappyatlife
      @crappyatlife ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's a video game. Touch grass

    • @CaptainKreepingDeath
      @CaptainKreepingDeath ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Found one

    • @ExtremeWreck
      @ExtremeWreck ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah those stupid private collectors should seriously consider touching grass at some point. Heck, I think they mostly just play League of Legends with their obese-looking ahh.

    • @crappyatlife
      @crappyatlife ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CaptainKreepingDeath man child

  • @Zuhukanah
    @Zuhukanah ปีที่แล้ว +28

    It's a shame Bio Force Ape never got released considering what a technical marvel it would have been. If it had more direction in the design department and released it probably would have been revolutionary.

    • @PiroKUSS
      @PiroKUSS ปีที่แล้ว

      Would have? It still is. Games like I, Robot were innovative, but went unnoticed. Games that innovate aren't always given the attention they deserve.

    • @MegaZeta
      @MegaZeta ปีที่แล้ว

      @PiroKUSS By definition, an innovative game that does not by itself start a revolution in design is not "revolutionary". The original comment had it right.

  • @aisadal2521
    @aisadal2521 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    The dedication and euphoria people have whenever something new is unearthed never gets old 🥰

  • @nevadaxelizabeth
    @nevadaxelizabeth ปีที่แล้ว +8

    something i always liked about Bio Force Ape was the care with the animations coupled with the insane scrolling speed. the character crouches on the platform going up, and the hair flutters, gives a superb sense of speed going on, like hes actually withdstanding the force of the air as the platform goes up.

  • @JakeRanney
    @JakeRanney ปีที่แล้ว +41

    It's becoming all too common of an occurrence for my beloved hometown of Jacksonville, FL to be mentioned somewhere and I get excited, only for the story to take a horribly dark turn.

    • @Jazz-nu4fz
      @Jazz-nu4fz ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, same

    • @TyphinHoofbun
      @TyphinHoofbun ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can confirm, am also from Jacksonville, FL. There really is never any good stories from there, is there?

  • @dragonlibrarian7982
    @dragonlibrarian7982 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I fucking hate, how many collectors there are who only want something if no one else can have it. How many lost games are sitting in some douchenozzles collection never to see the light of day.

  • @RGozz
    @RGozz ปีที่แล้ว +524

    It's infuriatingly crazy to me how people will hoard these prototypes for money given that as time goes on it's increasingly likely that they will begin to break down. I wonder how many prototypes have been lost to time simply due to some neckbeard wanting to be the only one who can play it.

    • @HistoryandReviews
      @HistoryandReviews ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Cry harder

    • @waspennator
      @waspennator ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Reminds me of when some Japanese collector splurged nearly $14,000 on a rare prototype of Indy the Magical Kid just to hoard it away from us dirty westerners.

    • @RGozz
      @RGozz ปีที่แล้ว +207

      @@HistoryandReviews appreciate your contribution and insights to this discussion :)

    • @LOL-gn5oh
      @LOL-gn5oh ปีที่แล้ว +164

      @@HistoryandReviews Found the neckbeard

    • @HistoryandReviews
      @HistoryandReviews ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@waspennator if video games are your life you need help

  • @elvispressplay7735
    @elvispressplay7735 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The California Raisins one is particularly strange to me because I very much remember renting a California Raisins game for the NES when I was a kid.
    Clearly I'm just misremembering things but it's definitely eerie as even the screenshots and label seemed familiar.

    • @psychokinrazalon
      @psychokinrazalon ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The gameplay shown in this video should be familiar if that was the case.

    • @elvispressplay7735
      @elvispressplay7735 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@psychokinrazalon It is a bit. That's why I said the screenshots and label were familiar. But we're talking about a game I MAYBE played one time around 25 years ago. Anything I "remember" now could just be my brain manufacturing memories based off a similar game.

    • @qriist1850
      @qriist1850 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was sitting here with my brow furrowed while I watched that segment because I recalled seeing a California Raisins game on the rental shelves when I was a kid. I would even bet a small amount of cash on that being the case.

    • @Kstanimal
      @Kstanimal 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's extremely familiar to me too. Not sure why

  • @CoolCaseyJ
    @CoolCaseyJ ปีที่แล้ว +33

    “Congraturaisins” .. I think some things are meant to be lost

    • @GoodlyPenguin
      @GoodlyPenguin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree. I would burn the cartridge if I were the guy

    • @ChimeraMK
      @ChimeraMK ปีที่แล้ว +4

      CONGLATURAT ION !!!
      YOU HAVE COMPLETED
      A GREAT GAME .
      AND PROOVED THE JUST ICE
      OF OUR CULTURE .
      NOW GO AND REST OUR
      HEROES !

  • @SkaiCyan
    @SkaiCyan ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I actually remember seeing ads for that California Raisins game growing up, I never knew that it never ended up releasing (or that Capcom was stupid all the way back then too).

  • @sirflimflam
    @sirflimflam ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Goddamn, the raisins story got a lot more serious at the end there.

  • @rootfifthoctave5336
    @rootfifthoctave5336 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    huge kudos to frank cifaldi, kelsey lewin and all the people at VGHF. they're doing incredible work there

  • @cabbusses
    @cabbusses ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Some other "lost" games that were recovered with comparable stories:
    SFC/Satellaview - Cooly Skunk (technically most things that were on Satellaview are like this, but Cooly Skunk is especially notable for it being a canceled retail release)
    Genesis - Akira
    Game Boy Color - Resident Evil
    Playstation - Clayfighter Extreme
    Famicom Disk System - Aliens
    Dreamcast - Propeller Arena
    This can end up becoming a long list easily.

    • @LegendStormcrow
      @LegendStormcrow ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Speaking of Mature rated GB games, they did release a Mortal Kombat Gameboy game. It came with my GameBoy, but my mom kept it and game me Donkey Kong.

    • @cabbusses
      @cabbusses ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LegendStormcrow Probably for the best, since I believe that port was terrible anyway.

    • @LegendStormcrow
      @LegendStormcrow ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cabbusses likely was.

    • @tiktok-mc2nq
      @tiktok-mc2nq ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@cabbusses yes it is terrible (trust me I've seen footage online that confirms that theory)

  • @Imgema
    @Imgema ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The animations in Bio Force Ape are great. I really like how the character is crouching on the elevator platforms that go up in very fast speeds, as if he is unable to stand up because of the heavy force of gravity. I don't remember seeing such thing in any other game.

  • @carn9507
    @carn9507 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I played the rom of bio-force ape sometime ago and was impressed with it's speed for sure. Would have been nice to have seen it released

  • @TheodoreWard
    @TheodoreWard ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I got to try one of those Sega VR headsets once in 1993. I was interviewing for a job with a game company in Tulsa, OK (Greg Zumwalt's company that made Michael Jordan in Flight) and the company was supposedly working on a game for this VR headset and let me try it out, I think it was just running the tank game they showed in this video but I was impressed with it.

    • @slagit
      @slagit ปีที่แล้ว

      I worked at Futurescape on the Nuclear Rush game and yeah it was some fun times that were I guess a little bit a head of the times. LOL!

    • @snooks5607
      @snooks5607 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@slagit I guess the games didn't extend beyond a rectangular area in front of you? that way player would be more likely to keep their head still which is the only way I could imagine 15fps not being vomit inducing

    • @slagit
      @slagit ปีที่แล้ว

      @@snooks5607 You know not totally sure. I would think they would be the aspect ratio of the screen being used. But then I was not the programmer tech person just creating the imagery.

    • @tiktok-mc2nq
      @tiktok-mc2nq ปีที่แล้ว

      I would love to see those sega VR headsets get found (or at least preserved in pristine condition)

  • @Forever_Zero
    @Forever_Zero ปีที่แล้ว +21

    All three stories are amazing, I think this made me appreciate more the gaming community and the passion some people have to protect and preserve this media

    • @slagit
      @slagit ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Having lived one of them yeah it brought back fun memories and even gave me some new insights!

  • @hexshadowman
    @hexshadowman ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Gotta love a story of a lost treasure being rediscovered years or even decades after.

  • @pinnedcomment8614
    @pinnedcomment8614 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Fun psych fact: Memories can be strong enough to invoke the exact emotions a person felt when the experience originally happened.

    • @Mylifemychoice1997
      @Mylifemychoice1997 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ~ True Story

    • @GreyValkyrie
      @GreyValkyrie ปีที่แล้ว

      Eh

    • @doc8125
      @doc8125 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Can even take only a sound, flavor or smell in a completely different context for you to suddenly be lost in thought of one of your childhood memories or similar, really cool when it happens (as long as it's not a bad memory)

  • @mundaneinthemembrane4611
    @mundaneinthemembrane4611 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    game preservationists are the real mvps

  • @ArcadeStriker
    @ArcadeStriker ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I don't know how to feel about the "Congraturaisins" screen, it feels both amazing and insanely cursed at the same time
    EDIT: holy shit the ending- I mean the cancellation of that game feels like something straight out of SEGA's own disputes between SOA and SOJ, that sucks so much
    EDIT2: what the fuck was the actual ending, that's awful

  • @BlazeHeartPanther
    @BlazeHeartPanther ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hope you do more of these in the future. I'd love to hear about Dinosaur Planet, my favorite quote unquote lost game. It was the game that Star Fox Adventures was originally going to be but got changed when Miyamoto made an observation about one of its main characters, Sabre, kind of looked like Fox Mcloud from Star Fox.

  • @LanEXHikari
    @LanEXHikari ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Theses stories are so crazy I can't get enough of them. Great work as always, please keep sharing your findings ✌🏼

  • @yoonvsaechao
    @yoonvsaechao ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really liking the amount of content you guys have been pumping out lately

  • @steelcurtain187
    @steelcurtain187 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bio Force Ape looks like it was modeled after the Ultimate Warrior lol. Especially with the crazy running

  • @ReddCinema
    @ReddCinema ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Love your vids, keep it up your amazing! ❤

  • @eyeln9ne696
    @eyeln9ne696 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember the little plastic raisin toys that everyone was collecting when i was a kid. My favorite was the raisin wearing orange sunglasses.

  • @Hollowpoint-rv4wq
    @Hollowpoint-rv4wq ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the kind of content I appreciate from your channel.

  • @SiberianHuskyF1
    @SiberianHuskyF1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing and detailed work as always!

  • @mechashoujo
    @mechashoujo ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The story behind how the ROM for Raisins trades hands is crazy!

  • @enduser8410
    @enduser8410 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:18 Imagine your studio working on revolutionary VR technology only to go under and your only legacy being a mention in a game called Ballz 3D. Tragic.

  • @eatmyshorts3147
    @eatmyshorts3147 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude BIO FORCE APE looks absolutely amazing for an NES game. The animation is buttery smooth I'm so glad it got found and preserved. Stories like this fascinate me

    • @tiktok-mc2nq
      @tiktok-mc2nq ปีที่แล้ว

      The game feel one of those weird but fun indie games that you would find on steam

  • @Mister_Clean
    @Mister_Clean ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That Raisins game has cursed energy

    • @sadie9728
      @sadie9728 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I mean, there was a murder involved so yeah...p cursed

  • @LanIost
    @LanIost ปีที่แล้ว

    Probably the most interesting episode I've seen on here. Great job!

  • @millasgameroom
    @millasgameroom ปีที่แล้ว

    one of the best videos you've done. what a trip.

  • @stylemonkey17
    @stylemonkey17 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video is so awesome! I love hearing about prototypes and lost media

  • @SezmoistheWorst
    @SezmoistheWorst ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's some quality trolling in the bio ape story.

  • @slagit
    @slagit ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very cool video and fun to revisit the memories of my time at Futurescape and NUCLEAR RUSH which I worked on and it was my first Video Game job! I had a pal at Sega at that time period and he thought he heard NR was cancelled because of the head gear over heating or something like that. It is interesting years later learning more about the reasons of cancellation. We had headgear at Futurescape and I was into VR at the time and had a blast shooting the ships I built! Anyways having experienced VR now man what we worked on seems so primitive!

  • @nahuelpaz8590
    @nahuelpaz8590 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the videos! You put so much time and work into them and they make my day better

  • @gunkarsingh1369
    @gunkarsingh1369 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My love for this channel keeps increasing with every video they release.

  • @waylonoconner9121
    @waylonoconner9121 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ultimate Journey for the NES and Conan The Barbarian for Jaguar are two games I recall that never got released.
    I even had an Electronic Gaming Monthly with a review of Ultimate Journey in it

  • @smugcat723
    @smugcat723 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The 64 DD should be the mascot of DYKG lol

  • @ChronoSquare
    @ChronoSquare ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I had to do a double take when looking at some older photos of my uncles. What I thought was my three+ uncles donning blackface was, in actuality, all of them doing a combined group costume of the California Raisins.
    I still am not sure how or why I know of the Raisins, from the 90s.

  • @svenbtb
    @svenbtb ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder how many more lost prototypes, whether for unreleased OR released games, are still out there somewhere floating around in someone's basement or attic. Hopefully more and more keep getting found! Thanks for this great info, really appreciate all the work you guys do to bring us all this fascinating info!
    That Bio Force Ape story was wild lmao, I remembering hearing a little about it but had no idea it was so bonkers.

  • @Rando1975
    @Rando1975 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love reading through old gaming mags and seeing previews about games I don't remember. Turns out I didn't remember a lot of them because they ended up getting canceled. The highest number I've seen so far is 6 canceled games in one issue, and I believe 4 of them for for the Sega CD.

  • @balazsgyekiczki1140
    @balazsgyekiczki1140 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very thorough research, nice work!

  • @Pensive_Scarlet
    @Pensive_Scarlet ปีที่แล้ว +10

    As a humble archivist, those people who encourage others not to dump a ROM so that the cart maintains a higher monetary value always bother me. Treating an experience built on some much effort and artistry as if it's just some commodity that should be withheld for trading purposes. I'm glad they got pranked hard. ;p

  • @TheUncommonValley
    @TheUncommonValley ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I absolutely love covering these kinds of games. They're always the most fun to talk about. :)

  • @maxrage2104
    @maxrage2104 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! I love hearing about what could've been!

  • @dolst
    @dolst ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for name dropping Twin Eagle! I have been trying to remember what that game was called for at least 25 years now!
    Surf Wisely.

  • @ybfriendlystrawberry
    @ybfriendlystrawberry ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the video and information, really cool to learn about this ^^

  • @IllusionMaster17
    @IllusionMaster17 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    California Raisins and Bio Force Ape are the example about how videogames' story and preservation are important, and how their story can be filled with the funniest of moments or even unfortunate events.
    How a simple look at someone else's yard can lead to a literal odyssey about a game from more that 30 years, is always amazing.

  • @3ftninja132
    @3ftninja132 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Rest in Peace Brandon Murphy, you were to good for this world.

  • @misterk7_-
    @misterk7_- ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These were so interesting. Especially the last one. That was intriguing as hell

  • @skRapKlan
    @skRapKlan ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, thanks for all this amazing history!

  • @fiskburk2908
    @fiskburk2908 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    It's sad to think about how some "collectors" hoard prototypes just for the only reason of feel special and now add some companies like Pico Interactive that forbid the use of sharing prototypes so they can sell an inferior and modified version.

    • @benvictim
      @benvictim ปีที่แล้ว +8

      RIP the resident evil 1.5 80% build T_T found but being hoarded. So the community is working off the 40% build that was found.

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos ปีที่แล้ว +9

      If I was a game collector I'd think nothing of sharing the rom. I'd still have the original and that would be what would make it special.

    • @jfgme
      @jfgme ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Didn't this happen with an Akira prototype for Super Famicom last year? Think it was sold on Ebay than never seen again? could be thinking of the wrong game thought tbh

    • @GoodlyPenguin
      @GoodlyPenguin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You'd be surprised how many Japanese horders specifically horde elusive and lost arcade boards just because they have an elusive thing. They don't even want to sell them for a penny- they just want to keep them forever for selfish reasons.

    • @rorz999
      @rorz999 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It sucks, but if it's any consolation most prototypes out there are earlier builds /unfinished versions of games that did eventually get a release

  • @rux_ton
    @rux_ton ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wow i wasn't expecting an actual wild ride of stories. This is definitely one of my favorite videos now for sure. So glad we have been graced with such generous folks wanting to just help preserve videogame history!

  • @jmjedi923
    @jmjedi923 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man, the sheer chance of the guy who knew exactly what mario 64 DD was finding it is boggling my mind

  • @BleuVII
    @BleuVII ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There's so many games you could talk about. Pokemon Spaceworld Gold/Silver are some of the big ones, but just a few weeks ago a completed build of Star Wars Battlefront 3 was found. Even games that have since been released, like Earthbound Beginnings, Star Fox 2, etc.

  • @wolftickets1969
    @wolftickets1969 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Other lost and found NES prototypes:
    Sunman (began development as a Superman game before SunSoft lost the license)
    Titan Warriors (cancelled sequel to Capcom's early vertical shooter Vulgus)

  • @Tricob1974
    @Tricob1974 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let's also not forget two NES games from the Oliver Twins - Wonderland Dizzy and Mystery World Dizzy. They were found and released less than ten years ago.

  • @NeopToIemy
    @NeopToIemy ปีที่แล้ว

    Grew up during this era and I recall vague snippets of a lot this stuff.
    Absolutely fascinating.
    I totally forgot about California Raisins, I still have that Game Players magazine somewhere

  • @RoseLalonde76
    @RoseLalonde76 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So THAT'S where that butter monster picture I've had for 12 or so years came from! I could never find the source through reverse image searching...

  • @battleboss8376
    @battleboss8376 ปีที่แล้ว

    Subscribed and turned on notifications! Thanks for the upload!

  • @Kyoko_
    @Kyoko_ ปีที่แล้ว

    This felt like a vintage YT gaming video, nice work.

  • @Aki-chanChannel
    @Aki-chanChannel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    RIP Brandon Murphy, never chased the bag for te good of all. Absolute legend.

  • @RabbitEarsCh
    @RabbitEarsCh ปีที่แล้ว

    Huh. Even as someone who watched the Bio Force Ape debacle live, and learned about California Raisins soon after the dump, I still learned a lot today. Thanks for going the extra mile on the research as usual.

  • @Ezzekiel73
    @Ezzekiel73 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's something so heartwarming and fantastical about hearing of a game lost to time, but ultimately discovered and saved to preservation. Thank you to all who dedicate their time to making sure video games can be saved for all to play and experience.
    And rest in peace, Brandon Murphy, a true legend who's untimely death and sacrifice lives on with the California Raisins prototype, now thankfully preserved for history.

  • @HankseyHill
    @HankseyHill ปีที่แล้ว

    I legit never knew about Sega VR. I read and watch a ton of video game stuff too. Thanks for sharing this with us. Have a like, friend :)

  • @MercenaryTau
    @MercenaryTau ปีที่แล้ว +22

    It's too bad they didn't foresee what 90's pop culture would become, Bio Force Ape would have been huge. I can easily imagine an animated series (in the art style of Biker Mice from Mars with a touch of Ren & Stimpy), lunch boxes and other school supplies, action figures, likely even its own cereal, at the very least, a Chef Boyardee deal.

    • @MegaZeta
      @MegaZeta ปีที่แล้ว

      For a photo-realistic diaper-wearing ape man? I doubt it

  • @RedDev1l757
    @RedDev1l757 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a fantastic video. So interesting. I want more!!!!

  • @wardrich
    @wardrich ปีที่แล้ว +3

    [00:33] - Super Mario 64 DD
    [02:18] - Sega Home VR
    [08:07] - California Raisins (NES)
    [14:20] - Bio Force Ape

  • @csj9619
    @csj9619 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Holy cow! Wasn't expecting murder and fire on a video game video

  • @mino2123
    @mino2123 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    never would i have expected a story about the lost california raisins game to end with first degree murder

  • @carn9507
    @carn9507 ปีที่แล้ว

    The moonwalk part of that Raisins game reminded me I was replaying Super Metroid for the first time in 20 years the other day and surprised to see 'Moon Walk' in words right there on the special settings menu. Kinda neat for a Nintendo first-party game to have a lil reference there to Jackson who was generally a Sega icon (with the Moonwalker game being a popular title in the early days of the MD/Genesis and still fun to play today even if it's a pretty simple game, there's something just very fun about playing as Jackson and listening to those 16-bit renditions of his classic tunes).

  • @peacefulscrimp5183
    @peacefulscrimp5183 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely amazing 👌
    Great video 👍

  • @theformerkingoftheprevious60
    @theformerkingoftheprevious60 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Imagine wanting to find a game since 2008... And you find it in a very casual place

  • @marcroberts5251
    @marcroberts5251 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Raisins as story was bittersweet

  • @Gecko1993HogheadIncOfficial
    @Gecko1993HogheadIncOfficial ปีที่แล้ว +2

    FINALLY! A lost games video where NOBODY talked about Gex Jr.!
    Seriously, when that prototype resurfaced, people wouldn’t stop heckling me about it-it was insanity!

    • @stedmangg
      @stedmangg ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah, Gex, glad to see you here, did you hear about Gex Jr getting dumped?

  • @PurpleAspiredDreaming
    @PurpleAspiredDreaming ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was today years old when I learned that the funny grape game I played decades ago was actually a prototype cart for the California Raisins game. I grew up in Jax' and had a friend with a lot of weird looking consoles, some for running bootlegs, some I thought were just broken/dropped but still functioned.
    ...Bro, what even is my life...

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Still in touch with that friend? Sounds like they're sitting on a gold mine.

    • @PurpleAspiredDreaming
      @PurpleAspiredDreaming ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BJGvideos I am not, sorry. I don't even know their full name, not that I would disclose it anyway.

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PurpleAspiredDreaming I was thinking more of just on your end. I wasn't asking for their name.

  • @cecillewolters1995
    @cecillewolters1995 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Sometimes reality is weirder than fiction xD
    Love the Bio Force Ape story!

  • @illmatticx
    @illmatticx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Once in awhile I'll come back to this channel to see if you expanded your topics past Nintendo and MGS games, but doesn't seem like that'll ever change

  • @RenegadeX28
    @RenegadeX28 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All we need is a prototype of Mother 64 needs to appear..PLEASE!