It still makes me laugh that the hist tree said to the argonians "You guys see that oblivion gate over there? I don't want it to be there" and the Argonians rushed the Oblivion gate till the Daedra said "Nope" and closed their own gate.
Yes and no. The Hist warned the Argonians several years in advance. When the Oblivion Gates appeared the Argonians stormed the gates as a tidal wave of trained and armed soldiers. They quickly overhwlemed Mehrunes Dagon's forces and he just went "Blackmarsh is a bust...fuck' basically
@@behindthebruins5119 I see potential in being a argonian messenger who travels as fast as he can to help other Argonians go back to their homeland and prepare for the war
@@johngaelnox5447 that wouldn’t work as then is a linear game if it’s making you play as an argonian but I see the potential as an imperial messenger. Even then it doesn’t make sense. Maybe a slave that’s breaks free and leads the charge agains the daedra kinda like the hero of kvatch but not in prison
I kinda liked the very lizard-raptor like look they had in Morrowind. They just became literal Lizard People in Oblivion and Skyrim has a kind of in between aesthetic
My favourite example of this is the Bright-Throats and the Dead-Water tribes. Or even the Ghost tribe (Veeskhleel). All in the same time frame and all live in Murkmire. I think the hist tree makes a big difference. Imo hist trees are like people, with preferences and personalities traits of their own.
Aside from the obvious statement at the end. My theory is that the Hist Trees are constantly causing the argonians to evolve with each generation in every passing era.
that said it's not simply graphics, it's also core concept for example in Morrowind they were digitigrade. At this point it's reasonable to ask what implementation is most lore accurate. I don't know but I suspect Morrowind actually is because later on they most likely were just lazy and wanted to reuse the same rig and animations instead of having entire separate animations set for beast races. Answer to this question is more of "is it legit or just laziness"
ESO, no matter how people feel, has hands down the best Argonian cusomization so far. I hope TES6 improves Lizard Boi customization greatly, like giving us a height scale and customizing teeth look
Consistency is important. Look at what happened to halo. Switching up the art style for no reason other than lets do it ( different eras is a good reason for weapons and armor to look different but doesnt work for creatures) is detrimental to the identity and overall integrity of the brand. This is great lore and makes the swampy boys feel super alien and cool, but i wish it wasnt a bandaid slapped over shity desgin philosophy.
its called Bethesa wanting to cut corners so they use the human body as a base rather than a whole new model. Notice how argonians lost their hind legs in oblivion and Skyrim?
I dont really mind that much as long as they keep improving the customization options on the Argonians. I will cry, however, if when TES6 comes out and Argonians look like normal humans with scales.
Am I the only one who hates how they made Argonians to be fully Aztec? Usually TES provinces are clever combination of the Earth cultures but here they did an absolutely appaling job.
I agree in parts, they could have added things from the Inca culture like clothing. And even gone further with other native cultures like Tupi-Guarani and Maya.
@@lucasbernardo1889 why concentrating on the American Natives? That's the most boring and unimaginative way of doing it, and Warhammer already made lizardmen to be mayan and aztec, years before TESO. I would personally aim for an outlandish style, like Lovecraftian style from Shivering Isles' Dementia.
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It still makes me laugh that the hist tree said to the argonians "You guys see that oblivion gate over there? I don't want it to be there" and the Argonians rushed the Oblivion gate till the Daedra said "Nope" and closed their own gate.
Yes and no. The Hist warned the Argonians several years in advance. When the Oblivion Gates appeared the Argonians stormed the gates as a tidal wave of trained and armed soldiers. They quickly overhwlemed Mehrunes Dagon's forces and he just went "Blackmarsh is a bust...fuck' basically
This needs to be a game right now I don’t even care if it’s fan made because the lore is written so it can stay canon
@@behindthebruins5119 I see potential in being a argonian messenger who travels as fast as he can to help other Argonians go back to their homeland and prepare for the war
@@johngaelnox5447 that wouldn’t work as then is a linear game if it’s making you play as an argonian but I see the potential as an imperial messenger. Even then it doesn’t make sense. Maybe a slave that’s breaks free and leads the charge agains the daedra kinda like the hero of kvatch but not in prison
Elder Scrolls 6 should take place in or near Blackmarsh
Argonia supremacy am i right my marsh-brothers?
YASS egg-sister, slayyyy!
Agreed Egg-sister or brother!
n'wah you are farm tool
@@saadmohameed8340 tell that to my telvanni spoon set
"Supremacy", no. The right to be respected? Yes.
I kinda liked the very lizard-raptor like look they had in Morrowind.
They just became literal Lizard People in Oblivion and Skyrim has a kind of in between aesthetic
Wish they looked more like that. Kinda like a more animalistic race like how Reptile looks in Mortal Kombat 1.
Skyrim is so watered down that it could be a lite Conan game with the right mods
@@jetpilledmyron2056you are aware the argonians looked like that in daggerfall correct?
With these inconsistencies i hope all their designs are available in TES VI
Infernal City is a criminally underrated book.
Not perfect, but a decent book.
Different tools for different work clearly.
Morowind Argonian is not real. it can not hurt you.
Morrowind Argonians:
Naga-Kur best argonians hands down, bloody savage they are
This was an awesome video
I appreciate you saying that ❤️
@@infinitybreak4459 anytime buddy! I really look forward to the other things you post. Elder scrolls is very good shorts content!
My favourite example of this is the Bright-Throats and the Dead-Water tribes. Or even the Ghost tribe (Veeskhleel). All in the same time frame and all live in Murkmire.
I think the hist tree makes a big difference. Imo hist trees are like people, with preferences and personalities traits of their own.
Aside from the obvious statement at the end. My theory is that the Hist Trees are constantly causing the argonians to evolve with each generation in every passing era.
That would work if the time gap between morrowind and oblivion wasn't only 7 years.
I just hope that the art style of TES is like Skyrim and not too much like online
Because it's an art style that changes over time
"why do graphics change from game to game?"
Yeah. Did this video even need to exist? Annoying.
that said it's not simply graphics, it's also core concept for example in Morrowind they were digitigrade. At this point it's reasonable to ask what implementation is most lore accurate. I don't know but I suspect Morrowind actually is because later on they most likely were just lazy and wanted to reuse the same rig and animations instead of having entire separate animations set for beast races. Answer to this question is more of "is it legit or just laziness"
With mods my skyrim argonians are amazing 👏
ESO, no matter how people feel, has hands down the best Argonian cusomization so far. I hope TES6 improves Lizard Boi customization greatly, like giving us a height scale and customizing teeth look
Would humping a hist tree be considered Inhist
its the way they make the game buddy they use the human form for every race so their not making a bunch of different body forms for each race
Maybe its not important and you shouldn’t think about it
Reptiles tribe
As long as they work as maids
we good
And where do the Orcish looking argonians of Arena come from?
Bc of time release. Like doom or fallout series. Bethesda isnt From Software
Consistency is important. Look at what happened to halo. Switching up the art style for no reason other than lets do it ( different eras is a good reason for weapons and armor to look different but doesnt work for creatures) is detrimental to the identity and overall integrity of the brand. This is great lore and makes the swampy boys feel super alien and cool, but i wish it wasnt a bandaid slapped over shity desgin philosophy.
its called Bethesa wanting to cut corners so they use the human body as a base rather than a whole new model. Notice how argonians lost their hind legs in oblivion and Skyrim?
I dont really mind that much as long as they keep improving the customization options on the Argonians. I will cry, however, if when TES6 comes out and Argonians look like normal humans with scales.
@@General..Grievous i mean... argonians suddenly having human-shaped faces when they wear those dragon masks exists
When the game can't maintain their art style so they make a lore about it😂
Am I the only one who hates how they made Argonians to be fully Aztec? Usually TES provinces are clever combination of the Earth cultures but here they did an absolutely appaling job.
I agree in parts, they could have added things from the Inca culture like clothing. And even gone further with other native cultures like Tupi-Guarani and Maya.
@@lucasbernardo1889 why concentrating on the American Natives? That's the most boring and unimaginative way of doing it, and Warhammer already made lizardmen to be mayan and aztec, years before TESO.
I would personally aim for an outlandish style, like Lovecraftian style from Shivering Isles' Dementia.
Regional differences…literally.
Peasant slaves who just figured out how to wear shoes.
They should've stayed the slaves of the dark elf master race.
Farm tools
Or.. or.. or.. they’re different games with different rendering abilities and art styles so they changed the races accordingly.
Whatever... that Maid is HOT!! ^^
Just Bad artist