@@thisisfine4093 i think he or she mean that since she is talking about fangirls who are usualy Young girls she dressed up in a typical youthful way,usualy diferent from what u would see in a TED TALK(sorry for my bad english, still learning tho,i hope you can understand)
"Why should I hide my feelings? Because they annoy you? Or because it isn't what the boys do?" (9:20) As a woman, sociologist, and fan, this hits hard.
Don't try to feel self important by turning this into a feminist agenda. If someone is telling you to stop screeching because it's annoying you're doing it in the wrong place. I've never seen or heard of anyone say "Stop yelling" at a concert, unless it's a classical concert. If man starts yelling in the office because his football team lost, he's gonna get shushed, and if he continues, escorted from the building. You're not special just because you're a woman and WANT to be oppressed. I hope that hits hard.
reedofwater I suspect that you are not a woman, so you don’t know what the OP means. It’s not about feminist agenda or what you prefer to call it (my goodness, why do you people see politics every-fucking-where); it’s a genuine feeling from personal experience (or even trauma). Throughout my life I often feel that I can’t express my opinions and feelings for fear I’d be labeled “emotional”, and thus not taken seriously. How is relating to the struggle suddenly a feminist movement? Are others’ feelings so annoying to you, that any expression of it automatically warrants labels and attacks? Why do you feel the need to remind people that their opinions aren’t important, or calling their expression an agenda, thus invalidating it? Who are you to judge whether or not I, or any person, have been oppressed? Are you a deity or otherwise a superhuman with mind-reading powers? Don’t you see the irony that in an attempt to remind people of their humble places, you look so very much like an oppressor? But there’s at least one thing to be happy: I’m not like you. When a boy talks about his feelings and struggles, I try to listen and understand.
As a feminist fangirl, i truly adore this woman and everything she said. This hits me hard too and hopefully others who don't understand the fangirls life.
@@zs7238 Just in case this turns into an ongoing discussion I’m itemizing this for easier reference: 1. I said “feminist agenda” because the OP pulled a quote saying (paraphrase) “It’s wrong to hide my feelings just because males don’t like it.” Feminism is about females having equal rights to males. 2. I am not invalidating the OP’s opinion. I’m saying I don’t like her opinion and disagree with it wholeheartedly. The OP didn’t pick a quote that meant “fan girls are awesome!” she picked a quote that said “It’s wrong to hide my feelings just because males don’t like it.” That quote creates a Them (males) vs Me (females) dynamic. And by quoting it and saying it “hits hard”, she says she believes that dynamic is real. Feminist agenda. 3. Who’s “you people”? 4. Because you’re not “relating to the struggle”. You’re projecting your feelings and your struggle onto the video. The video is specifically about fan girls, how they express their passion, and it implies that even obsessive passion is appropriate (which I disagree with). This video is not about female’s right to be heard in discourse (ex: arguments, conversations, politics, youtube comments, ect.). You’re saying you have an insecurity about your voice being valid in a discussion or with the world at large. 5. You’re self-oppressing. Free yourself. I didn’t put her in “her humble place” I asked her not to create and propagate a feminist agenda. 6. With the points above I address why I think the OP created a feminist agenda with her quote. Now why did I “attack her” for it? Because I take issue with it. Because I hate feminist agendas. I hate feminist agendas because today feminism is racist and sexist doesn’t try to advocate for equal rights to males and females, it advocates oppression of men and I’m sick of it. 7. You’re right, I am not an omniscient god. I can’t tell how much you have or have not been oppressed. But rallying against all the “boys” because some boys were mean to you is stupid. It’s like publishing a youtube video advocating fighting back against all the girls because girls have been mean to me in the past. There will always be oppressors, there will always be jerks, it is not correct to label boys as the enemy because the jerks in your life were boys or because a boy thought you being a fangirl is stupid. I know a lot of good men in my life, some with fan girl daughters that they’re NOT oppressing, and I would hate for anyone to think ill of them just because others have had bad experiences with males. That’s sexist. 8. I hope this discussion helps you get over your trauma. I was emotional, angry, in my first response and I apologize for my anger. I should have laid out my point more eloquently. You have been emotional your entire response as well, but I have addressed you not as an “emotional” women that has no merit but as a fellow human that has points that should be addressed. I hope you can free yourself from the crutch of being a women. I have known men that struggle with validating their voice in a discussion as well. It’s not a gender issue, it’s a self-esteem or self-confidence issue. And detractors will put you down however they can, whether with your gender or your age or your looks. Whatever the labels they use, they’re detractors. Not “the male oppressors”. I bet that there are females that disagree with you as well, they just won’t call you emotional, just other things that are meant to put you down. I've been at this for more than an hour, if there is something I didn't address or you have more points to make, I'm all ears.
''You all just sounded stunning and as sane and as intelligent and as dignified as when you walked into this room" That last sentence as a conclusion! Perfect! As long as it doesn't hurt anyone, why would it be wrong to be passionate about something/someone. I'm an ARMY, I'm 28 yo, I'm a hard worker, I'm a woman, I'm not crazy. I'm just a human being, going through life, expressing my feelings.
I'm army too. It's great to be passionate about something, it's bad to be obsessed with it. It's fun to be a fan; it's a problem when you love your idol more than yourself. A lot of girls suffer from self esteem issues and part of the problem is that they're too busy loving an idol rather than themselves. Balance is important and this Ted presenter forgot to mention this.
"Why should fangirls tone it down? Because they're crazy? Or because our definition of reasonable is based on what it is acceptable for men to do?" *That hit hard*
I always asked myself this... Why do I feel that I have to hide my enthusiasm about music/performances of a group that I'm fan from people ? Probably because i'm afraid that this same people will think that I'm crazy? Less capable? Not a valuable opinion? Why do they always think this? It's sad and makes me sad
If you read enough hateful and ignorant comments from “fans” or see how they stalk stars, threaten or endanger other people most people get the impression obsessive fans are stupid and dangerous. Did you even watch the video?
You shouldn't feel bad for being a fan. We're all a fan of something. Shouldn't feel bad for having an altar or posters or other paraphernalia. The problem only comes when you're OBSESSED with something, which is to say it's having a negative and unhealthy consequence in your life and/or the lives of those around you.
It's been a year that i made this comment wow I just would like to highlight that i was not talking about those obsessive actions and thoughts. When i said enthusiasm it was just a healthy one? When you're fan of something you feel it. Anyways, i don't remember pretty much the video so ...
hiilex oh okay. i think you're misunderstanding tho cause we aren't doing it just for bts, like obviously for their birthdays we create charity projects for the members but other than that the charity is usually related to smth that armys are interested in and want to spread awareness about. like obviously the common factor between us is that we all like bts but that isn't the only factor that's driving us into donating. you can learn more about this (and maybe donate for charities that interest you if you want? no pressure!!) on one in an army (oiaa) on twitter and instagram.
"We can all die tomorrow so why not love things while we're still breathing" really hit home. This talk made my feelings, as a woman, so justified regardless of what society may think!
Pipo Leo racist chants at football games, a man got slashed in the face with a kitchen knife in an argument over football (go to BBC news) lots of other physical fights and verbal abuse thrown left, right and centre but you draw the line there?
Yesterday i told my friend that i am (we are) so obsessed with characters who even not exist and was feeling a little bad for loving them so much. She told me that in this world if they make you happy and feel you better then why should we stop making ourselves happy by not loving them? A few minutes ago she sent me this video which define us and make us feel better as a "fangirl". Thank you so much
You shouldn't feel bad for being a fan. We're all a fan of something. Shouldn't feel bad for having an altar or posters or other paraphernalia. The problem only comes when you're OBSESSED with something, which is to say it's having a negative and unhealthy consequence in your life and/or the lives of those around you. So if it IS having an unhealthy effect on your life, or if its removal will make you go manic, you should stop, otherwise have at it.
@@reedofwater yes, i understand what you mean. And no they dont have a bad effects in my life so far. Actually i feel happy when i see something about them, talking about them make me happy. That's why i was a bit upset, being happy over unreal things. But now i dont mind, as long as it makes me happy i will love them. But you are right, if there is a bad effect to the person then its not okay to obsessed with something. thank you so much ^^
The Korean Drama "Her Private Life" shows a side of how fangirls/fanboys are. It shows how being such fangirls/boys get intertwined with their everyday lives as well as their personal relationships. I highly recommend people to watch this series.
@@lin_n_n thanks for that! I did not know it was any different.. I just thought that the fansite thing was her only edge but I thought she was how a fangirl usually is.. thanks for the input! :)
“...none of us are born in US, we’re all Korean. i know that we’re not good in english, but i believe music is another language. So, if we feel the same, we are the same. To anyone that says K-POP is a bad thing- let's make them SHUT UP! - I.M (MONSTA X)
Did you take people don't love that type of music into account, and rly, part of the fandom is a bit too enthusiastic. Last time, a classmate was bullied by kpop fan, after just saying I can't recognize them. Those fans yelled at her, and implied her as "no taste", "idiot", "outdated". I would like to know actually how these fan define the standard of "bad thing" .
this is so amazing. as a fangirl, i can say that i now have an explanation when someone asks "why?" when i shriek because something big happened to my favorite character in a show that im obsessed with. i am so glad that i no longer need to be ashamed to love something to the extent of screaming and crying. i am so, so, so happy that this woman explained us to the world like this.
As an ARMY this hit quite deep cos our fandom is considered to be full of crazy 13 year old fangirls when its not true at all. (This is a long comment btw but worth reading) Majority of the people in our fandom are between the ages 20-50 and boys/men make up at least a quarter of the fandom + of course people who don't wanna have a label make up a decent portion. These people have full time jobs, families or they're still in school etc. We are an incredibly diverse fandom with easily over 15 million active fans from all around the world. Were a family full of smart and talented people and were constantly trying to learn and adapt so we can be as efficient as possible when it comes to pushing BTS to the top. I think its amazing that our fandom is basically a big family where everyone is accepted and people try their best to help each other (for example fan translators, and fan bases). It makes me feel bad that we cant really show the world what our fandom is truly about cos of stereotypes but here are some things our fandom has done. -Donated over $500k to a corona relief fund (3 concerts got cancelled people donated their ticket refund money) -Raised over $200k for charity -Organized over 290 charity projects -Raised over $1.5mil for BTS' Love Myself (end violence) UNICEF campaign -Saved thousands of lives & helped millions of people around the world -Planted over 50k trees -Matched BTS' $1mil donation to BLM -So much more We do stuff like this because were inspired by all of the charity work the BTS members do and we want to make them proud. We have different stuff we focus on for specific members so for example for the birthday of the leader of BTS we plant trees etc cos he likes nature and its done in his name. We do charity work etc in the name of BTS and sometimes the boys do charity work etc in the name of us. We aren't blindly fangirling over BTS cos they're good looking and popular. We love them because they make amazing music dipping into multiple genres & executing them perfectly & never sounding the same, their personalities arent really celebrity like at all and their music talks about mental health, economy, the educational system, societal pressures, youth and self love. They write and produce a lot of their own stuff and believe that music can break any barrier and that art can change the world. The reason they make music is purely because they want to give people happiness, hope and comfort through their music. They don't fear losing money or their fame but their love for music. They're really kindhearted and caring people & really humble about their success and they also think that were all just a big family, like our bond isn't your usual fan-artist one. They're celebrities from the other side of the world whose language most ARMYs don't even speak yet they're the people we can relate to the most.
My inspiration of my Life is BTS .... And my objective is to be a part of that ocean of army waving army bomb ..... I love them because of their passion....Even though I am unable to understand them but some how my heart just can't stop beating ..... as I hear their voices filled with passion ..... Their songs fill me with enthusiasm to study even more harder so that one day...
I want to see them so baad, the tickets are gonna be on sale in a week for europe and i get such anxiety when i think about how hard it's gonna be to catch a spot and be part of that army bomb ocean... i hope for the best ;) #BTSWORLDDOMINATION
Oh my gosh! This is motivating me so much more to love the fandom, But there are some fans, especially some on twitter......The way they interact with non BTS fans really makes me sad. I've learnt so much about fandoms, especially BTS army, the good things they've done like match a billion act, supporting bts and a lot more. Those toxic fans, worst of them sasaengs (sorry if I spelt it wrong) really bring a bad name and impression on the fandom.
I am a part of BTS ARMY and the way we are represented by specially US media is insane. We love how BTS always stands up for us and corrects the interviewers who call us crazy to passionate. That's the accurate word for us. Because this passion leads us to create something beautiful like fanarts. Seriously check them out, armys are very talented. This passion gets our creative juices running and motivates young people to write, which definitely helps them learn how to do creative writing which helps them in later phases of life like college applications. This passion helps us love something UNCONDITIONALLY which I know is the problem of all of humanity. So yes, I don't understand why would people attack something that gives them a home, love, support, a sense of belonging outside of their regular lives and turn it into something derogatory like craziness, hysteria or unappealing. Thank you for speaking up about how wrongly fangirls are treated and our word of expression is bad-mouthed when boys do the same for sports and whatnot.
@@fandyus4125 I'm personally not a fan of over-enthusiasm in general and fangirls fall into that category for me. So, I can understand why fangirls come of as "icky" for some people. However, I find your comment to be unfair at some points. I'm totally on board with the capitalism argument - it's known that especially KPop groups are coached for these interviews and their public comments are carefully crafted - and yes, I cringe at a lot of fanfiction like the ones you mentioned (and I know girls that wrote those around 4 to 5 years ago and are embarrassed by the fact that they did so now). Where I start to disagree is when you talk down on fanart. The thing is: Many writing those fanfictions and doing fanart are literal children, often as young as 10. For a child (or anybody in my opinion), it doesn't matter what gets you interested in something. If somebody takes an interest in art because of fanart, they will rather sooner than later move on to drawing the people in their lives. If somebody writes fanfiction, they will grow out of it eventually and soon move on to original stories. Especially when it comes to the topic of writing fanfiction about real people, many realize what they were doing later on and they grow from it as people, much like they might have grown their skills and moved on to more serious endeavors. And then there is the part of fanfiction and fanart that is simply done to attract people to someone's site… I know fanart and fanfiction can be a difficult topic but, as said, people grow from it - and that's all that counts for me. Another part that really struck a chord was your sentiment, that boys don't fantasize about getting married to Lionel Messi and that they don't build shrines. And I strongly disagree with that one. They might not build shrines but they run around with shirts with the names of their favorite players and while girls plaster their walls with pictures of their favorite boybands, boys do the same with their favorite sports team or player. While boys don't want to get married to their favorite celebrity, many want to meet their idols and how many teenage boys will tell you that they will become the next (insert their favorite artist here), F1 racer, etc? Girls dreaming of getting married to their favorite celebrity comes down to gender roles. Boys are taught to DO what they want to do, girls are taught to get married, etc. The minority of girls who are taught that they can be much more than a wife, don't become fangirls but dream of being an astronaut or whatsoever. But then again, the latter category is often seen as the weird ones by their peers. And while this is generalized, I've seen and heard these things on a daily basis when I've talked with my students about their aspirations.
Fandyus you're already wrong from the first point,, so many boy bands/groups let it slide when their fans (more specifically their fangirls) are called crazy and hysterical. i distinctly remember someone from a popular boy band stating that he hates that they have more fangirls than fanboys because he wants ppl to take them seriously.
@@fandyus4125 I wonder why someone would write such a long and bitter paragraph just to s**t on something that makes people happy. Find a hobby. Or maybe you can choose a group to stan. You will be become less bitter.
@@fandyus4125 Awww they know the origin of internet slang. How cute. In that case you should know stan originated from a eminem song and means "fan" nowadays. Shut up.
I was 13 years old at the peak of Duran Duran's popularity. I remember the passion I felt like it was yesterday. They're still my favorite band--35 years later.
Loving bts has really helped me deconstruct the shame I feel for showing enthusiasm/excitement for the things I love 💜💜💜 I want to hug her for saying this.
Love the Beatles, McFly and One Direction. Write fanfiction, make vids and fanart. Be passionate about what you love. Fangirls are amazing. I am now multifandom obsessed. Great TED talk.
I absolutely loved this. Im really happy you did a talk like this and I hope that my sister will get to grow up in a world where she feels like she can fangirl over whatever she wants.
Don't take it too far, the conduct that this presenter described is obsessive and unhealthy. It's great to be a fan of something, being a "fan girl/boy" is unhealthy and the conduct discouraged. This is NOT a double-standard. A boy worshiping Ariana Grande or whatever in the same manner is also unhealthy.
reedofwater reedofwater I dont think its taking it too far. If a boy did the same I wouldn’t think anything of it. I dont see how these behaviors are bad, I think some people just get freaked out and make too much of a big deal about it lmao. Just let them have fun.
in my public speaking class, we had to chose a ted talk to write an analysis paper about. this was perfect for me and may or may not have given me the courage to do my next speech on my favorite hockey player :D
As a 40 year old *NSYNC fan who loves them as fiercely as I did since I was a 13 year old, thank you! Fan girls are the most loyal, committed and detail oriented people I have ever met. Anyone would be thrilled to have us in our orbit.
I know its kind of an obsession if you want to know everything (literally everything) about your idol or artist(probably I do too) but Why tell a 10 year old that she cannot marry a person she love. She's gonna grow up but no one tells us who should we love or not. Yeah you go girl
Not only do we communicate fast, but we also spread the word of important issues and topics as well as raise money and awareness towards charities. And I’m so proud of that, just wish the rest of the world was too.
First off I am a HUGE one direction and solo Stan. As well as a Beatles fan. And OH MY GOD I HAVE NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THIS AND ITS SO TRUE I LOVE THIS VIDEO
I think it's because of some fans' lack of respect and boundaries -- that's why people have bad impressions of them which is highlighted by the media. I think some fans are really not aware that they are making their fandom look bad or toxic, therefore becoming an anti-fan unknowingly. someone said that in fandoms that are such big in numbers and diversity that it is only statistical and probable that there WILL be a number of obnoxious people within them which should not be a generalization of what the fandom represents.
@@Julia0R That's a good point. In fact, fanatics are more common in the sports world than in fandoms. Not only do fans fight each other, there have also been so many cases of sports fans _rioting_ because their team lost or even when they won, causing thousands of dollars in property damage, injuring people and endangering the public. It's unbelievable and it usually only gets a brief mention in the news or is only reported in local news, at least in the U.S. (I'm not sure if it gets more attention when it happens in other countries but in America it usually doesn't get a media storm and widespread angry condemnation like some riots do, maybe because it's mostly white people who behave like psychotic neanderthals over a sports game.)
Helga from Hey Arnold is a great example of this. She is Arnold's fangirl with shrines and following him around, but she does some incredible things with her obsessive behavior like reuniting parents and children and saving their neighborhood. I know it's just a cartoon, but you really come to love Helga when you watch the show and she is the ultimate fangirl.
This is actually a good analogy... Plus, Helga is infatuated with Arnold BECAUSE he's a good person and she admires his empathy, kindness, compassion, open-mind and he gives her hope, in a world in which she feels disappointed or cynical about most people. The reason of her obsession (although of course she has to learn to not idealise him/alienate him) is that she finds emotional support on knowing that someone like him exists.
I’ve always lived under a rock when it comes to the music scene and celebrities in general so I very much Do Not Get the fandoms around bands and other real people, but I’ve always been a fan of cartoons and other shows, so I very much understand how something can bring you such pure joy. When she led the group scream at the end I was highly tempted to join in but it’s early morning and I don’t wanna disturb my moms sgdjdhgdfhdgfgh but I was screaming in my heart. Fandom is a lifestyle that never fails to bring joy 🤘 this enby dude is proud to be a fan
The musical Yve wrote, FANGIRLS, has an album coming out April 30 and everyone should presave it! You can find the link on their website and every presave means that music platforms are more likely to promote it and share the magic that is this show 💖
I've been a fan of my favourite band the Jonas brothers for like 14 years & in year 10-12 so many people in my grade would judge me & say crap about me bc of my love for them even I posted something on MySpace or Facebook but I got over it & just embraced it& they're still my fave band who I've now been lucky enough to meet & see in concert.
In the words of the neuroscientist that One Direction hired for their movie to explain why fans are "crazy": "The girls are not crazy, they're just excited." I'm going to use this topic for my media analysis research project because a topic has never been more important to me than this! "Why should I hide my feelings? Because you don't like it or it's not what the boys do?" I love this so much. Forever a Directioner! ❤
I am a fangirl and am proud! However, there is lines to be drawn with being a fangirl or boy, if it goes past the point of obsession and turns into harm that’s where I draw a line. My self rule is that I do not fangirl real life people, because the line between fantasy and reality can be blurred very easily. I knew fangirls and boys that would stalk, rage, and turn very violent when someone would bring up their obsessions. Which is why I never ask a fangirl about it, because if I personally don’t like it, I wouldn’t want it shoved down my throat lmao.
Unapologetically loving what you love without fear of judgement is what the people who are called crazy by society actually are doing. Maybe time to rethink about what is actually rational and what is not.
Love all the BTS fans in thr comments. I am 43 and ARMY as well. Full time career woman, mom, and not crazy lol. I found them by accident in 2019 and been hooked since. I love their philanthropic hearts but also their introspection and depth. Not to mention the many nods to Carl Jung's work about the Persona, Ego, Shadow and Self
She was so right. We fangirls are really misunderstood, we just want to support the artist and enjoy their music. But as a really big fan of a group i don't even dare to say that i like them or talk about them with my friends. 'Oh she is so weird why is she so obsessed with them.' I am afraid to show my room (full of posters), because it is considered weird and crazy.
9:20 I felt this part, I was posting about zayn earlier today on my story since it’s his birthday and I was slightly iffy to put one thing bc of how frowned upon it can be to be a fan girl
I alwasy cry watching this becasue I feel so validated. I've 23 and I'm A SUPER FAN of Taylor Swift nd Harry Styles nd, at the same time, I have a house and cats that I take care of, a husband, a 9-5 job and sometimes, just cause i love some artists, I'm get called stupid.
As a fangirl they can do whatever they want as long as it doesn't compromise someone else's safety or health or cause damage to property Enthusiasm itself is generally harmless
"why is it the image of young girls screaming their lungs out with excitement for a pop/ kpop star is considered crazy, psycho and scary. But the image of young boys screaming their lungs out with excitement for a footballer is considered 'normal'"?
is that it's equivalent to being being in itself um and it also refers to our object hood and that's something i think 3:25 is super interesting here right this idea that as humans we are always already objects for both start and bevoir 3:31 object hood is a pretty fundamental feature of who we are to be treated as an object doesn't necessarily mean to be 3:38 in demanding if if love is the demand to be loved and i want the other person to 8:14 love me but love for the other person means that they're demanding to be loved by me 8:21 you can see how there's this just really essentially indefinite references infinite regress all quoting ellie anderson
ok ok ... I will stop to beat up JB fans (jk I'm a pacifist) but when I see someones room, and it's plastered with photos/posters of a specific person/group, than I find that creepy! regardless if a boy or girl did that ... So - at least to me - this not a sexism caused thing, at least not 100%. Nevertheless, amazing talk, love her energy and outfit! ^^
she is wearing the perfect outfit for this talk. this is genius.
Cerbyo I don’t get it could you explain this
@@thisisfine4093 i think he or she mean that since she is talking about fangirls who are usualy Young girls she dressed up in a typical youthful way,usualy diferent from what u would see in a TED TALK(sorry for my bad english, still learning tho,i hope you can understand)
I clicked on this video simply because her outfit looked similar to one Taylor Swift wore
"Why should I hide my feelings? Because they annoy you? Or because it isn't what the boys do?" (9:20) As a woman, sociologist, and fan, this hits hard.
Don't try to feel self important by turning this into a feminist agenda. If someone is telling you to stop screeching because it's annoying you're doing it in the wrong place. I've never seen or heard of anyone say "Stop yelling" at a concert, unless it's a classical concert. If man starts yelling in the office because his football team lost, he's gonna get shushed, and if he continues, escorted from the building. You're not special just because you're a woman and WANT to be oppressed. I hope that hits hard.
reedofwater I suspect that you are not a woman, so you don’t know what the OP means. It’s not about feminist agenda or what you prefer to call it (my goodness, why do you people see politics every-fucking-where); it’s a genuine feeling from personal experience (or even trauma). Throughout my life I often feel that I can’t express my opinions and feelings for fear I’d be labeled “emotional”, and thus not taken seriously. How is relating to the struggle suddenly a feminist movement? Are others’ feelings so annoying to you, that any expression of it automatically warrants labels and attacks? Why do you feel the need to remind people that their opinions aren’t important, or calling their expression an agenda, thus invalidating it?
Who are you to judge whether or not I, or any person, have been oppressed? Are you a deity or otherwise a superhuman with mind-reading powers?
Don’t you see the irony that in an attempt to remind people of their humble places, you look so very much like an oppressor? But there’s at least one thing to be happy: I’m not like you. When a boy talks about his feelings and struggles, I try to listen and understand.
As a feminist fangirl, i truly adore this woman and everything she said. This hits me hard too and hopefully others who don't understand the fangirls life.
@@zs7238 Just in case this turns into an ongoing discussion I’m itemizing this for easier reference:
1. I said “feminist agenda” because the OP pulled a quote saying (paraphrase) “It’s wrong to hide my feelings just because males don’t like it.” Feminism is about females having equal rights to males.
2. I am not invalidating the OP’s opinion. I’m saying I don’t like her opinion and disagree with it wholeheartedly. The OP didn’t pick a quote that meant “fan girls are awesome!” she picked a quote that said “It’s wrong to hide my feelings just because males don’t like it.” That quote creates a Them (males) vs Me (females) dynamic. And by quoting it and saying it “hits hard”, she says she believes that dynamic is real. Feminist agenda.
3. Who’s “you people”?
4. Because you’re not “relating to the struggle”. You’re projecting your feelings and your struggle onto the video. The video is specifically about fan girls, how they express their passion, and it implies that even obsessive passion is appropriate (which I disagree with). This video is not about female’s right to be heard in discourse (ex: arguments, conversations, politics, youtube comments, ect.). You’re saying you have an insecurity about your voice being valid in a discussion or with the world at large.
5. You’re self-oppressing. Free yourself. I didn’t put her in “her humble place” I asked her not to create and propagate a feminist agenda.
6. With the points above I address why I think the OP created a feminist agenda with her quote. Now why did I “attack her” for it? Because I take issue with it. Because I hate feminist agendas. I hate feminist agendas because today feminism is racist and sexist doesn’t try to advocate for equal rights to males and females, it advocates oppression of men and I’m sick of it.
7. You’re right, I am not an omniscient god. I can’t tell how much you have or have not been oppressed. But rallying against all the “boys” because some boys were mean to you is stupid. It’s like publishing a youtube video advocating fighting back against all the girls because girls have been mean to me in the past. There will always be oppressors, there will always be jerks, it is not correct to label boys as the enemy because the jerks in your life were boys or because a boy thought you being a fangirl is stupid. I know a lot of good men in my life, some with fan girl daughters that they’re NOT oppressing, and I would hate for anyone to think ill of them just because others have had bad experiences with males. That’s sexist.
8. I hope this discussion helps you get over your trauma. I was emotional, angry, in my first response and I apologize for my anger. I should have laid out my point more eloquently. You have been emotional your entire response as well, but I have addressed you not as an “emotional” women that has no merit but as a fellow human that has points that should be addressed. I hope you can free yourself from the crutch of being a women. I have known men that struggle with validating their voice in a discussion as well. It’s not a gender issue, it’s a self-esteem or self-confidence issue. And detractors will put you down however they can, whether with your gender or your age or your looks. Whatever the labels they use, they’re detractors. Not “the male oppressors”. I bet that there are females that disagree with you as well, they just won’t call you emotional, just other things that are meant to put you down.
I've been at this for more than an hour, if there is something I didn't address or you have more points to make, I'm all ears.
It gave me the chills too.
''You all just sounded stunning and as sane and as intelligent and as dignified as when you walked into this room"
That last sentence as a conclusion! Perfect!
As long as it doesn't hurt anyone, why would it be wrong to be passionate about something/someone.
I'm an ARMY, I'm 28 yo, I'm a hard worker, I'm a woman, I'm not crazy. I'm just a human being, going through life, expressing my feelings.
I'm 27 and a Directioner! Hi! Not crazy as well haha
I CAN FEEL YOU, ANOTHER ARMY IN HERE.
I'm an army too 💜
I'm army too. It's great to be passionate about something, it's bad to be obsessed with it. It's fun to be a fan; it's a problem when you love your idol more than yourself.
A lot of girls suffer from self esteem issues and part of the problem is that they're too busy loving an idol rather than themselves.
Balance is important and this Ted presenter forgot to mention this.
@@reedofwater I completely agree with you!
The moment she said "Harry Styles", I thought "relatable, sis"
Alice yeah me too I hoped she would say his name
In conclusion, we stan harder than ever before
no cap
Not in my opinion. “Stanning” is weird from either gender. It’s not weird when women or girls do it, it’s weird when anyone does it.
"Why should fangirls tone it down?
Because they're crazy?
Or because our definition of reasonable is based on what it is acceptable for men to do?"
*That hit hard*
yeah, unfortunately...😓
I always asked myself this... Why do I feel that I have to hide my enthusiasm about music/performances of a group that I'm fan from people ? Probably because i'm afraid that this same people will think that I'm crazy? Less capable? Not a valuable opinion? Why do they always think this? It's sad and makes me sad
If you read enough hateful and ignorant comments from “fans” or see how they stalk stars, threaten or endanger other people most people get the impression obsessive fans are stupid and dangerous. Did you even watch the video?
You shouldn't feel bad for being a fan. We're all a fan of something. Shouldn't feel bad for having an altar or posters or other paraphernalia. The problem only comes when you're OBSESSED with something, which is to say it's having a negative and unhealthy consequence in your life and/or the lives of those around you.
It's been a year that i made this comment wow I just would like to highlight that i was not talking about those obsessive actions and thoughts. When i said enthusiasm it was just a healthy one? When you're fan of something you feel it. Anyways, i don't remember pretty much the video so ...
@y̶o̶o̶n̶g̶u̶n̶⁷̶ yeah, I'm trying to work on this, thank u!
@y̶o̶o̶n̶g̶u̶n̶⁷̶ that's ok ☺️
BTS fans actually constantly organize donations and fundraisers, tell me is that crazy?
!!!! exactly
They shouldn't only be doing that for bts 💀✋
hiilex what?
@@lay-xf8rl I meant shouldn't lmao
hiilex oh okay. i think you're misunderstanding tho cause we aren't doing it just for bts, like obviously for their birthdays we create charity projects for the members but other than that the charity is usually related to smth that armys are interested in and want to spread awareness about. like obviously the common factor between us is that we all like bts but that isn't the only factor that's driving us into donating. you can learn more about this (and maybe donate for charities that interest you if you want? no pressure!!) on one in an army (oiaa) on twitter and instagram.
"We can all die tomorrow so why not love things while we're still breathing" really hit home. This talk made my feelings, as a woman, so justified regardless of what society may think!
“But young boys screaming their lungs out for a footballer is perfectly normal”
@@milfbangerbhabhilover9771 esports*
@@user-xw9lt1em3m EsPoRtS
They don't want to shag them or dreaming about marrying them.
No complaints you're right 😉
Pipo Leo racist chants at football games, a man got slashed in the face with a kitchen knife in an argument over football (go to BBC news) lots of other physical fights and verbal abuse thrown left, right and centre but you draw the line there?
Yesterday i told my friend that i am (we are) so obsessed with characters who even not exist and was feeling a little bad for loving them so much. She told me that in this world if they make you happy and feel you better then why should we stop making ourselves happy by not loving them? A few minutes ago she sent me this video which define us and make us feel better as a "fangirl". Thank you so much
You shouldn't feel bad for being a fan. We're all a fan of something. Shouldn't feel bad for having an altar or posters or other paraphernalia. The problem only comes when you're OBSESSED with something, which is to say it's having a negative and unhealthy consequence in your life and/or the lives of those around you.
So if it IS having an unhealthy effect on your life, or if its removal will make you go manic, you should stop, otherwise have at it.
@@reedofwater yes, i understand what you mean. And no they dont have a bad effects in my life so far. Actually i feel happy when i see something about them, talking about them make me happy. That's why i was a bit upset, being happy over unreal things. But now i dont mind, as long as it makes me happy i will love them. But you are right, if there is a bad effect to the person then its not okay to obsessed with something. thank you so much ^^
Well are you an otaku?
@@naz8404 Of course! Happy I could have helped put things in perspective for you. I wish you the best. ^_^
@@otakuforeverchannels9270 i think im not since i havent watched a lot of animes so far but i love some characters so much in some animes :3
Fangirls: shriek in euphoria while fangirling
Fangirls: We don't need pills to get high
have a nice day I practically said this today
@@noorakhan620 welcome to the club
have a nice day no need for introductions I’m already acquainted
Me
you are the cause of my euphoriaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAᗩᗩᗩᗩᗩᗩᗩᗩᗩᗩᗩᗩᗩᗩᗩᗩᗩ
(You’ll understand if you’re an army)
This had so many important points about female passion and how this society deals with it. So many quote-worthy sentences
The Korean Drama "Her Private Life" shows a side of how fangirls/fanboys are. It shows how being such fangirls/boys get intertwined with their everyday lives as well as their personal relationships. I highly recommend people to watch this series.
Thank you!!!!!!
I was just thinking about what drama to watch next!!!
i already watched it and it was amazing!
@@MinMin-oe5od you're welcome. :) I was pleasantly surprised with it. :) I feel you will be, too.
@@lin_n_n thanks for that! I did not know it was any different.. I just thought that the fansite thing was her only edge but I thought she was how a fangirl usually is.. thanks for the input! :)
@@lin_n_n ohhhhh... thank you very much for letting me know! :) it's quite fascinating how there are many aspects there are of this.
I'm an adult. I'm still crazy. I still love one direction and their music. I'm so happy with it. Directioner Forever.
I love your profile picture!! I’m a Louis girl forever
i’m a louis girl and a directioner forever! i came to this comment section just to see if some people were talking about 1d
i am a louie too yayy
Same here!! I love ONE DIRECTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DIRECTIONER FOREVER💖
Fangirls are not just young teenage girls.... I'm 41 & I'm proud of my love for K-Pop
shame
@@malplenaento2898 shame?
Yasss
@@malplenaento2898 on you.
@@malplenaento2898 on you for not letting people enjoy something harmless and makes them happy thats for sure
this talk made me cry, i've never felt this type of appreciation for being a fangirl. Yve is a genius. Amazing talk
“...none of us are born in US, we’re all Korean. i know that we’re not good in english, but i believe music is another language. So, if we feel the same, we are the same. To anyone that says K-POP is a bad thing- let's make them SHUT UP!
- I.M (MONSTA X)
Did you take people don't love that type of music into account, and rly, part of the fandom is a bit too enthusiastic. Last time, a classmate was bullied by kpop fan, after just saying I can't recognize them. Those fans yelled at her, and implied her as "no taste", "idiot", "outdated". I would like to know actually how these fan define the standard of "bad thing" .
I’m 41 and an ARMY!!! Wife and mother of three, not crazy! Love BTS so much, and not apologetic about it!!!
BTS HATER FOREVER. WHO TF ARE THEY? THEY'RE CRAZY
this is so amazing. as a fangirl, i can say that i now have an explanation when someone asks "why?" when i shriek because something big happened to my favorite character in a show that im obsessed with. i am so glad that i no longer need to be ashamed to love something to the extent of screaming and crying. i am so, so, so happy that this woman explained us to the world like this.
When she said the whole hysteria and hysterectomy thing etc. I got chills because damn.
This legit made me cry. This talk is so healing for the female energy. 💜
As an ARMY this hit quite deep cos our fandom is considered to be full of crazy 13 year old fangirls when its not true at all. (This is a long comment btw but worth reading)
Majority of the people in our fandom are between the ages 20-50 and boys/men make up at least a quarter of the fandom + of course people who don't wanna have a label make up a decent portion.
These people have full time jobs, families or they're still in school etc. We are an incredibly diverse fandom with easily over 15 million active fans from all around the world. Were a family full of smart and talented people and were constantly trying to learn and adapt so we can be as efficient as possible when it comes to pushing BTS to the top. I think its amazing that our fandom is basically a big family where everyone is accepted and people try their best to help each other (for example fan translators, and fan bases).
It makes me feel bad that we cant really show the world what our fandom is truly about cos of stereotypes but here are some things our fandom has done.
-Donated over $500k to a corona relief fund (3 concerts got cancelled people donated their ticket refund money)
-Raised over $200k for charity
-Organized over 290 charity projects
-Raised over $1.5mil for BTS' Love Myself (end violence) UNICEF campaign
-Saved thousands of lives & helped millions of people around the world
-Planted over 50k trees
-Matched BTS' $1mil donation to BLM
-So much more
We do stuff like this because were inspired by all of the charity work the BTS members do and we want to make them proud. We have different stuff we focus on for specific members so for example for the birthday of the leader of BTS we plant trees etc cos he likes nature and its done in his name. We do charity work etc in the name of BTS and sometimes the boys do charity work etc in the name of us.
We aren't blindly fangirling over BTS cos they're good looking and popular. We love them because they make amazing music dipping into multiple genres & executing them perfectly & never sounding the same, their personalities arent really celebrity like at all and their music talks about mental health, economy, the educational system, societal pressures, youth and self love. They write and produce a lot of their own stuff and believe that music can break any barrier and that art can change the world. The reason they make music is purely because they want to give people happiness, hope and comfort through their music. They don't fear losing money or their fame but their love for music. They're really kindhearted and caring people & really humble about their success and they also think that were all just a big family, like our bond isn't your usual fan-artist one. They're celebrities from the other side of the world whose language most ARMYs don't even speak yet they're the people we can relate to the most.
My 2-3 minutes worth reading 💜
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THIS. Yes, fellow ARMY 💜
My inspiration of my Life is BTS .... And my objective is to be a part of that ocean of army waving army bomb ..... I love them because of their passion....Even though I am unable to understand them but some how my heart just can't stop beating ..... as I hear their voices filled with passion ..... Their songs fill me with enthusiasm to study even more harder so that one day...
ikr. they have this passion and it's making us feel hyped and wanting to give them more and more. IM SO PROUD OF MY BOYS
I want to see them so baad, the tickets are gonna be on sale in a week for europe and i get such anxiety when i think about how hard it's gonna be to catch a spot and be part of that army bomb ocean... i hope for the best ;) #BTSWORLDDOMINATION
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Oh my gosh! This is motivating me so much more to love the fandom, But there are some fans, especially some on twitter......The way they interact with non BTS fans really makes me sad. I've learnt so much about fandoms, especially BTS army, the good things they've done like match a billion act, supporting bts and a lot more. Those toxic fans, worst of them sasaengs (sorry if I spelt it wrong) really bring a bad name and impression on the fandom.
I am a part of BTS ARMY and the way we are represented by specially US media is insane. We love how BTS always stands up for us and corrects the interviewers who call us crazy to passionate. That's the accurate word for us.
Because this passion leads us to create something beautiful like fanarts. Seriously check them out, armys are very talented. This passion gets our creative juices running and motivates young people to write, which definitely helps them learn how to do creative writing which helps them in later phases of life like college applications. This passion helps us love something UNCONDITIONALLY which I know is the problem of all of humanity. So yes, I don't understand why would people attack something that gives them a home, love, support, a sense of belonging outside of their regular lives and turn it into something derogatory like craziness, hysteria or unappealing.
Thank you for speaking up about how wrongly fangirls are treated and our word of expression is bad-mouthed when boys do the same for sports and whatnot.
@@fandyus4125 I'm personally not a fan of over-enthusiasm in general and fangirls fall into that category for me. So, I can understand why fangirls come of as "icky" for some people. However, I find your comment to be unfair at some points. I'm totally on board with the capitalism argument - it's known that especially KPop groups are coached for these interviews and their public comments are carefully crafted - and yes, I cringe at a lot of fanfiction like the ones you mentioned (and I know girls that wrote those around 4 to 5 years ago and are embarrassed by the fact that they did so now).
Where I start to disagree is when you talk down on fanart. The thing is: Many writing those fanfictions and doing fanart are literal children, often as young as 10. For a child (or anybody in my opinion), it doesn't matter what gets you interested in something. If somebody takes an interest in art because of fanart, they will rather sooner than later move on to drawing the people in their lives. If somebody writes fanfiction, they will grow out of it eventually and soon move on to original stories. Especially when it comes to the topic of writing fanfiction about real people, many realize what they were doing later on and they grow from it as people, much like they might have grown their skills and moved on to more serious endeavors. And then there is the part of fanfiction and fanart that is simply done to attract people to someone's site…
I know fanart and fanfiction can be a difficult topic but, as said, people grow from it - and that's all that counts for me.
Another part that really struck a chord was your sentiment, that boys don't fantasize about getting married to Lionel Messi and that they don't build shrines. And I strongly disagree with that one. They might not build shrines but they run around with shirts with the names of their favorite players and while girls plaster their walls with pictures of their favorite boybands, boys do the same with their favorite sports team or player.
While boys don't want to get married to their favorite celebrity, many want to meet their idols and how many teenage boys will tell you that they will become the next (insert their favorite artist here), F1 racer, etc? Girls dreaming of getting married to their favorite celebrity comes down to gender roles. Boys are taught to DO what they want to do, girls are taught to get married, etc. The minority of girls who are taught that they can be much more than a wife, don't become fangirls but dream of being an astronaut or whatsoever. But then again, the latter category is often seen as the weird ones by their peers. And while this is generalized, I've seen and heard these things on a daily basis when I've talked with my students about their aspirations.
Fandyus you're already wrong from the first point,, so many boy bands/groups let it slide when their fans (more specifically their fangirls) are called crazy and hysterical. i distinctly remember someone from a popular boy band stating that he hates that they have more fangirls than fanboys because he wants ppl to take them seriously.
@@lay-xf8rl who was that?
@@fandyus4125 I wonder why someone would write such a long and bitter paragraph just to s**t on something that makes people happy. Find a hobby. Or maybe you can choose a group to stan. You will be become less bitter.
@@fandyus4125 Awww they know the origin of internet slang. How cute. In that case you should know stan originated from a eminem song and means "fan" nowadays.
Shut up.
I was 13 years old at the peak of Duran Duran's popularity. I remember the passion I felt like it was yesterday. They're still my favorite band--35 years later.
Loving bts has really helped me deconstruct the shame I feel for showing enthusiasm/excitement for the things I love 💜💜💜 I want to hug her for saying this.
oh! hello ARMY! 🙂💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
If your life changed by 1D's fangirl,
Idk what happen to u when u found out BTS's fangirl.
here i am
what is this supposed to mean..
It's a complete euphoria
@@callmerosa170 wondering the same... 😐
Do you mean that in a nice or mean way?
Love the Beatles, McFly and One Direction. Write fanfiction, make vids and fanart. Be passionate about what you love. Fangirls are amazing. I am now multifandom obsessed. Great TED talk.
Never clicked so fast on Ted Talk video.
Lmao
Saaame! Lmao
She has the energy of a theater kid. I love her. 🥺❤️
She actually wrote a musical based on this topic! It’s called fangirls and it’s amazing
I absolutely loved this. Im really happy you did a talk like this and I hope that my sister will get to grow up in a world where she feels like she can fangirl over whatever she wants.
Don't take it too far, the conduct that this presenter described is obsessive and unhealthy. It's great to be a fan of something, being a "fan girl/boy" is unhealthy and the conduct discouraged. This is NOT a double-standard. A boy worshiping Ariana Grande or whatever in the same manner is also unhealthy.
reedofwater reedofwater I dont think its taking it too far. If a boy did the same I wouldn’t think anything of it. I dont see how these behaviors are bad, I think some people just get freaked out and make too much of a big deal about it lmao. Just let them have fun.
in my public speaking class, we had to chose a ted talk to write an analysis paper about. this was perfect for me and may or may not have given me the courage to do my next speech on my favorite hockey player :D
The first thing came to my mind was BTS😆 and army.... Rest is y'all know
OMG
me to😂😂
me too lmao (im an ARMY)
hahaha same
Omg me too 😂
Nikita Sati same here😅
As a 40 year old *NSYNC fan who loves them as fiercely as I did since I was a 13 year old, thank you!
Fan girls are the most loyal, committed and detail oriented people I have ever met. Anyone would be thrilled to have us in our orbit.
Very interesting take on gender and expressing one's feelings.
it needs to be said
Ok
Me, a Directioner: YES
also, I started tearing up when they all screamed at the end. Reminded me of a concert 🤍
Why did I cried watching this?
Me too 🥺
I know its kind of an obsession if you want to know everything (literally everything) about your idol or artist(probably I do too) but Why tell a 10 year old that she cannot marry a person she love. She's gonna grow up but no one tells us who should we love or not.
Yeah you go girl
"Fangirls know how to love without apology and fear".
One of the most revealing and surprisingly lovely Ted Talks I've seen. Thank you, Yve Blake.
Harraaahhhhhhh!!!!!! 😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘🌏🌍🌎💖💝💖💝💖💝
P.S. I'm a DIRECTIONER!!!!!
Damn!!!! This woman literally summarised our lives!
I *absolutely* love HER!!!!! 😍
I love her oratory skills ❤️❤️❤️
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her outfit is so perfect for the eras tour 😭
Not only do we communicate fast, but we also spread the word of important issues and topics as well as raise money and awareness towards charities. And I’m so proud of that, just wish the rest of the world was too.
i was waiting for 'Taylor Swift' your dress screams Taylor Swift i looove it
Where the directioners at?
HERE
YO 😎
Coolest fans ever
First off I am a HUGE one direction and solo Stan. As well as a Beatles fan. And OH MY GOD I HAVE NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THIS AND ITS SO TRUE I LOVE THIS VIDEO
omg her voice and her gesture inspired me alot.
I think it's because of some fans' lack of respect and boundaries -- that's why people have bad impressions of them which is highlighted by the media. I think some fans are really not aware that they are making their fandom look bad or toxic, therefore becoming an anti-fan unknowingly. someone said that in fandoms that are such big in numbers and diversity that it is only statistical and probable that there WILL be a number of obnoxious people within them which should not be a generalization of what the fandom represents.
You are right but you have can say the same thing about a football fans who fight after games
vocal minorities usually turn people off, that's how stereotypes form
@@Julia0R That's a good point. In fact, fanatics are more common in the sports world than in fandoms. Not only do fans fight each other, there have also been so many cases of sports fans _rioting_ because their team lost or even when they won, causing thousands of dollars in property damage, injuring people and endangering the public. It's unbelievable and it usually only gets a brief mention in the news or is only reported in local news, at least in the U.S. (I'm not sure if it gets more attention when it happens in other countries but in America it usually doesn't get a media storm and widespread angry condemnation like some riots do, maybe because it's mostly white people who behave like psychotic neanderthals over a sports game.)
Privacy Lover Toxic Fanatics are a common problem everywhere imo, fandoms, football games, political parties, nations, everything and anything
Most of them don't.
Helga from Hey Arnold is a great example of this. She is Arnold's fangirl with shrines and following him around, but she does some incredible things with her obsessive behavior like reuniting parents and children and saving their neighborhood. I know it's just a cartoon, but you really come to love Helga when you watch the show and she is the ultimate fangirl.
This is actually a good analogy... Plus, Helga is infatuated with Arnold BECAUSE he's a good person and she admires his empathy, kindness, compassion, open-mind and he gives her hope, in a world in which she feels disappointed or cynical about most people. The reason of her obsession (although of course she has to learn to not idealise him/alienate him) is that she finds emotional support on knowing that someone like him exists.
I’ve always lived under a rock when it comes to the music scene and celebrities in general so I very much Do Not Get the fandoms around bands and other real people, but I’ve always been a fan of cartoons and other shows, so I very much understand how something can bring you such pure joy. When she led the group scream at the end I was highly tempted to join in but it’s early morning and I don’t wanna disturb my moms sgdjdhgdfhdgfgh but I was screaming in my heart. Fandom is a lifestyle that never fails to bring joy 🤘 this enby dude is proud to be a fan
Thank you for discussing this topic.
Amazing. I now fangirl scream for her.
The musical Yve wrote, FANGIRLS, has an album coming out April 30 and everyone should presave it! You can find the link on their website and every presave means that music platforms are more likely to promote it and share the magic that is this show 💖
This is like an outfit for the eras tour it’s perfect!! She did amazing!!
When One Direction fans hack into airport security just to watch the boys.... I wish I could've helped...
C’mon! One Direction have more photos than that one from 2010!
she did not have to use that one pic nahh 😭😭😭😭
eu queria que esse tipo de conteúdo alcansace o maior número de pessoas possíveis, pq tudo isso é muito real.
I came here after BigHit Music announced the 4 military enlistments :')
Borahae, ARMY!
The boys should learn to fanboy too ;)
yeah... i’ll still being a directioner anyways
IM CRYING RIGHT NOW ITS LIKE FINALLY SOMEONE UNDERSTOOD, ITS NOT JUST SOME BOYBAND FOR US THEY SAVED US, AND HER OUTFIT FOR THIS, DAMN.
One Direction will ALWAYS consume my life💖
This definition of dream stan
Hmmmmmmm...........
her dress looks like taylor swift's
Legit what I thought when I saw it
@@JenniferJiang2013 yeah😂 i thought she was talking about fangirling with taylor
I've been a fan of my favourite band the Jonas brothers for like 14 years & in year 10-12 so many people in my grade would judge me & say crap about me bc of my love for them even I posted something on MySpace or Facebook but I got over it & just embraced it& they're still my fave band who I've now been lucky enough to meet & see in concert.
Hii there! I wanna ask you something, if you don't mind can I?
“one direction loses a member” *start to cry*
love her dress!
Dress? More like a deflected and ironed out glitter ball!🕺
In the words of the neuroscientist that One Direction hired for their movie to explain why fans are "crazy": "The girls are not crazy, they're just excited."
I'm going to use this topic for my media analysis research project because a topic has never been more important to me than this! "Why should I hide my feelings? Because you don't like it or it's not what the boys do?" I love this so much. Forever a Directioner! ❤
The screams at the end reminded me of tour... Thinking of those memories from lysy made me cry a bit
I am a fangirl and am proud! However, there is lines to be drawn with being a fangirl or boy, if it goes past the point of obsession and turns into harm that’s where I draw a line. My self rule is that I do not fangirl real life people, because the line between fantasy and reality can be blurred very easily. I knew fangirls and boys that would stalk, rage, and turn very violent when someone would bring up their obsessions. Which is why I never ask a fangirl about it, because if I personally don’t like it, I wouldn’t want it shoved down my throat lmao.
She worded this perfectly!!! ❤❤❤ always proud to be a fangirl!
As a 1970s Bay City Rollers' fangirl whose heart still skips a beat listening to the boys in tartan, I can relate.
I love her, I found out about the musical today and it seems amazing!
That was brilliant! Probably one of the best TedTalks I’ve ever seen 😮👏🏽😍🤩
She IS brilliant! Fangirls, keep shouting!
Nice glittering dress. Beautiful speech😍
meaningless jibberish.
wow this women gave herself a standing ovation
It's all 'fangirls are crazy' untill kpop fans fill a racist hashtag with fancams on twitter.
this is so true 😪
I like her passion is that weird
not at all lol
Not at all! Her passion is amazing ❤️
Unapologetically loving what you love without fear of judgement is what the people who are called crazy by society actually are doing. Maybe time to rethink about what is actually rational and what is not.
For a moment there ı forgot about Zayn leaving 😭😭😭😭 and when she brought that up, ı remembered everything all over again
Love all the BTS fans in thr comments. I am 43 and ARMY as well. Full time career woman, mom, and not crazy lol. I found them by accident in 2019 and been hooked since. I love their philanthropic hearts but also their introspection and depth. Not to mention the many nods to Carl Jung's work about the Persona, Ego, Shadow and Self
Great talk! Regardless of gender, no-one should have to moderate their expression of pure joy, or be ashamed of it. :)
I was feeling a little sad cause people were projecting their biases on me because I am a fangirl of Ateez. This is just the validation I needed.
She was so right. We fangirls are really misunderstood, we just want to support the artist and enjoy their music. But as a really big fan of a group i don't even dare to say that i like them or talk about them with my friends. 'Oh she is so weird why is she so obsessed with them.' I am afraid to show my room (full of posters), because it is considered weird and crazy.
9:20 I felt this part, I was posting about zayn earlier today on my story since it’s his birthday and I was slightly iffy to put one thing bc of how frowned upon it can be to be a fan girl
I alwasy cry watching this becasue I feel so validated. I've 23 and I'm A SUPER FAN of Taylor Swift nd Harry Styles nd, at the same time, I have a house and cats that I take care of, a husband, a 9-5 job and sometimes, just cause i love some artists, I'm get called stupid.
As a fangirl they can do whatever they want as long as it doesn't compromise someone else's safety or health or cause damage to property
Enthusiasm itself is generally harmless
Bless this woman fr
"why is it the image of young girls screaming their lungs out with excitement for a pop/ kpop star is considered crazy, psycho and scary. But the image of young boys screaming their lungs out with excitement for a footballer is considered 'normal'"?
is that it's equivalent to being being in itself um and it also refers to our object hood and that's something i think
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is super interesting here right this idea that as humans we are always already objects for both start and bevoir
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object hood is a pretty fundamental feature of who we are to be treated as an object doesn't necessarily mean to be
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in demanding if if love is the demand to be loved and i want the other person to
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love me but love for the other person means that they're demanding to be loved by me
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you can see how there's this just really essentially indefinite references infinite regress all quoting ellie anderson
I am a woman with 18 years that like kpop ( Nct Shinee and monstax) and dramas
I loved this! What a beautiful way to redefine 'fan-girling' into passion and hope!
Start 4:40 is the best part
Oh my god I saw the title and I just HAD to click
4:29 this This THIS THIS.
ok ok ... I will stop to beat up JB fans (jk I'm a pacifist)
but when I see someones room, and it's plastered with photos/posters of a specific person/group, than I find that creepy! regardless if a boy or girl did that ...
So - at least to me - this not a sexism caused thing, at least not 100%.
Nevertheless, amazing talk, love her energy and outfit! ^^
As a supernatural j2m fan girl thank you
This is so true today. First it was ARMY now it's Swifties. People always find a female audience to mock.