Hey Gigawipf, i am so happy to see that an open source system is getting so far in development to even (at least partially) bring other users' systems into itself, but i wonder if stepper motors would still be considered in the future development of the project, because this is the only project with prior (hybrid) stepper motor support that is still being updated (every other one was abandoned or their devs simply disappeared without a trace)
As the owner of a IONICUBE based OSW with a Small Mige, this was a great watch! Subscribed :) I was just wondering this very weekend what ways to upgrade my old system were available, mainly because I would love to simplify the electronics and make them more compact. Besides your board being much more compact than an old Discovery + shield, what other advantages do you get by switching to OpenFFB board? I can tell that an additional advantage is being able to use a more modern encoder like a Biss-C, which you can order to Mige Electronics (although in my case, coming from an older Small Mige with a 2500ppr encoder, it would also require an adapter plate AFAIK). But is there anything else in store? Higher frequency of work? Better configuration of FFB setup? More filters available? I'm genuinely curious.
Biss-C is already supported by the ionicube. You will be able to use the full capabilities of the driver with a digital communication which also increases the accuracy. Update frequency will be the same at 1khz as that is dictated by the HID PID standard. If the FFBoard firmware is better for your application is what you need to decide yourself. It supports all dinput effects and is always being improved and there is the option to extend capabilities and add peripherals and being open source you can add your own features as well.
@@Gigawipf thanks for your (very quick) reply!. IIRC, while IONICUBE supports it, the MMoS firmware did not, so the maximum upgrade you could get with it was the 10000ppr encoder. Regarding firmware, I think it's great that it's still updated, as MMoS has not been for a long while already. Besides dinput effects, I would like to know what other filters/settings for finetuning FFB are available? I'm basically a simracer who spends most of his time in Automobilista 2 and Assetto Corsa. Thanks in advance!
Hi, great work! Have you done anything in the flight simulation sector? If you can expand your work to a 3 axis product, then there will be lots of interest in the flight simulation community for it...
2 axis is currently implemented and works with most motor drivers. There will be more in the next project video once it is tested more. For 3 axis the bandwidth for motor driver communication would be a limiting factor but with some drivers it might be possible.
Hi I like your project, I would like to try to build it on HF-SP152 MITSUBISHI servo motor. Is it possible? Do you think there will be any problems? The wiring connection will look the same as with the other servo motors you showed? Greetings.
@@Gigawipf In the datasheet I found only a simple wiring diagram between the driver and the servo, there are pins described as: "P5, LG, MR, MRR, BAT, SD", but these pins do not have numbers on the servo (there are 10 pins in the socket). I will look deeper. Maybe the best solution is to replace it with an E6B2-CWZ1X 2000pr encoder?
I have literally more than two hundred Sanyo-Denki 1000 watt and 400 watt high end new old stock ac brushless servos. I think they would be ideal as force feedback steering wheels and would also be good for full motion simulators to lift and bank a simulator cockpit for flying or driving ....... Would you like to try and see what you can do with one if I sent it to you?
Sure, always interested in comparing different motor types and i could report back to you how it compared to other motors. Let me know in the discord if you like.
Can you sell them for cheap if they are okay for a DD Wheel? The prices of small Move is crazy at the moment, almost the price of a full Fanatec DD ...
![ถามตรงๆ กับ อาจตุพร ทำไม ประเทศไทย ใครเป็นนายก ก็โดนด่า พอออกเเล้วคนคิดถึง!!?? l [Nickynachat]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/3YFLMXxBGAs/mqdefault.jpg)
![[Watch Party] RoV Pro League 2024 Winter | with Moowan ( Bacon Time Vs Talon )](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/CCEDhu6dPN8/mqdefault.jpg)
Thanks ! :))
Hey Gigawipf, i am so happy to see that an open source system is getting so far in development to even (at least partially) bring other users' systems into itself, but i wonder if stepper motors would still be considered in the future development of the project, because this is the only project with prior (hybrid) stepper motor support that is still being updated (every other one was abandoned or their devs simply disappeared without a trace)
Stepper motors are of course still supported with the TMC4671 driver but you will achieve better FFB quality with 3 phase motors in most cases.
I have a question when the TMC4671 driver would be available because I am interested in buying it
mms should be set at 1000 for your mige and foc at max . Really nice. I didn't know ioni supported biss encoders.
As the owner of a IONICUBE based OSW with a Small Mige, this was a great watch! Subscribed :)
I was just wondering this very weekend what ways to upgrade my old system were available, mainly because I would love to simplify the electronics and make them more compact. Besides your board being much more compact than an old Discovery + shield, what other advantages do you get by switching to OpenFFB board? I can tell that an additional advantage is being able to use a more modern encoder like a Biss-C, which you can order to Mige Electronics (although in my case, coming from an older Small Mige with a 2500ppr encoder, it would also require an adapter plate AFAIK). But is there anything else in store? Higher frequency of work? Better configuration of FFB setup? More filters available? I'm genuinely curious.
Biss-C is already supported by the ionicube. You will be able to use the full capabilities of the driver with a digital communication which also increases the accuracy. Update frequency will be the same at 1khz as that is dictated by the HID PID standard. If the FFBoard firmware is better for your application is what you need to decide yourself. It supports all dinput effects and is always being improved and there is the option to extend capabilities and add peripherals and being open source you can add your own features as well.
@@Gigawipf thanks for your (very quick) reply!. IIRC, while IONICUBE supports it, the MMoS firmware did not, so the maximum upgrade you could get with it was the 10000ppr encoder. Regarding firmware, I think it's great that it's still updated, as MMoS has not been for a long while already. Besides dinput effects, I would like to know what other filters/settings for finetuning FFB are available? I'm basically a simracer who spends most of his time in Automobilista 2 and Assetto Corsa. Thanks in advance!
hi can you explain the wiring of all parts in the open ffboard like the loadcell brake and accelerator encoder and motor stuff
How is the performance compared to the TMC drivers on the Mige?
Can you still buy this Ioni driver somewhere?
They were significantly noisier but have more encoder options. Seems like they are not openly sold anymore.
Hi, great work! Have you done anything in the flight simulation sector? If you can expand your work to a 3 axis product, then there will be lots of interest in the flight simulation community for it...
2 axis is currently implemented and works with most motor drivers. There will be more in the next project video once it is tested more.
For 3 axis the bandwidth for motor driver communication would be a limiting factor but with some drivers it might be possible.
Hi I like your project, I would like to try to build it on HF-SP152 MITSUBISHI servo motor. Is it possible? Do you think there will be any problems? The wiring connection will look the same as with the other servo motors you showed? Greetings.
Check the datasheet. depends on the encoder. If its ABN then its easy. If its a resolver then you need to replace it.
@@Gigawipf In the datasheet I found only a simple wiring diagram between the driver and the servo, there are pins described as: "P5, LG, MR, MRR, BAT, SD", but these pins do not have numbers on the servo (there are 10 pins in the socket). I will look deeper. Maybe the best solution is to replace it with an E6B2-CWZ1X 2000pr encoder?
I have literally more than two hundred Sanyo-Denki 1000 watt and 400 watt high end new old stock ac brushless servos.
I think they would be ideal as force feedback steering wheels and would also be good for full motion simulators to lift and bank a simulator cockpit for flying or driving .......
Would you like to try and see what you can do with one if I sent it to you?
Sure, always interested in comparing different motor types and i could report back to you how it compared to other motors. Let me know in the discord if you like.
Can you sell them for cheap if they are okay for a DD Wheel? The prices of small Move is crazy at the moment, almost the price of a full Fanatec DD ...