@Brian London the one with the deleted scene is the actual cut and even if they did survive superman crushed zods arm and laughed about it. Plus superman has killed people in comica and animation
People in the 80s: wow, Superman killed Zod, I did NOT expect that, what a great movie. People in 2013: Superman killed Zod!? What the heck!? Superman doesn't kill!!!
If you watch movies from back then, people get killed off left and right and even off screen. It's just never graphic because that would require extra SFX work.
Cavil's Superman had no other option left than to snap Zod's neck(a Family was in danger the same way Jim Gordon's son was when Batman killed HIS TRAUMATIZED AND DESFIGURED FRIEND in the DarKnight Movie and became everybody's Favourite Hero)WITHOUT ACCESS TO THE PHANTOM ZONE ANYMORE TO SEND A GENOCIDAL MANIAC who stated that he would keep fighting to the end and kill every human one by one, the only option left was killing him...and Man of Steel did it quickly with only one snap(check how Superman did it in the comics)...Here we saw how Christopher Reeve's Superman broke without any need, the hand and spine of a Powerless villian and throw him to the ice where he would die of cold. Then his Lois do the same and both smile...and after that he goes to take revanche to the man who kicked his ass in that bar scene(and he fought like a pussy...at least Cavil was defeated by Batman and mot a regular man)when he was without his powers(SUPERMAN teaching kids that vengance is a good thing)THAT IS THE SO CALLED "BEST SUPERMAN" and people keep on hateing MofS for breaking one douch's trak and AlienHitler's neck
People in the 80s (Superman 2): Oh, that Zod guy lost his powers and was arrested. People in 2006 (Superman 2 Donner Cut): Oh, Superman killed Zod but then reversed time to bring him back to life. People in 2013: Ooh, snap.
I remember being a kid in the 80s watching this and for some weird reason nobody made a big deal about Superman killing Zod back then ,but you they made a big deal about Henry Cavill killing him, in Man of Steel
@@integrity101 yes, Zod without powers was killed, back-break included. Stop trying to revise history. Some of us actually watched the movie long before the donner cut was released.
@@osaomoragbon7852 So did i. Your the one pushing this revisionist HISTORY. by your brilliant logic Zod was murdered then SUPERMAN stood their and smiled as LOIS (in no danger whatsoever) murdered URSA. Yea ok😉 You gotta be a special kind of stupid to believe that non sense. Practice critical thinking Forrest
the key point in you comment there. Deleted. as in not part of the movie. also i have seen that scene. not once did i see zod or the other 2. it was lex luthor who was arrested. and lastly there is liturally no way he could of survived. the crushing of his hand like that would cause bloodvessels to burst and the pain would of put him in shock.
8th wonder of the world dude, it's a fucking movie with aliens that get powers from the sun. And you trying to put reality in it to make sense. Good luck.
I'll have you know that, according to Margot Kidder (Lois Lane), during one of the takes when filming that scene she actually accidentally hit Sarah Douglas (Ursa) "a little too hard", knocking her unconscious.
THE POLICE SAVED URSA WITH THEIR CRASH MATS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND THEN WHY SHE WAY TRIED IN COURT, SHE WAS IMPRISONED IN THE WHITE HOUSE, AND WHEN BILL CLINTON CAME TO POWER, HE HAD HER CHAINED TO THE WALL OF THE OVAL OFFICE SO HE COULD FEEL HER BREASTS ON A DAILY BASIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So let me get this straight zod losses his power, superman crushescrushes zods hand, send him flying into a wall breaking his back and let him fall down a hole in the ice fortress. But thats all fine, atleast he didnt snap zod neck to prevent him from killing some humans with his heat vision.
If this came out today, all the fanboys would call Superman a sadist & a murderer because he could've easily kept all three of his fellow Kryptonians alive after rendering them powerless.
Cavil's Superman had no other option left than to snap Zod's neck(a Family was in danger the same way Jim Gordon's son was when Batman killed HIS TRAUMATIZED AND DESFIGURED FRIEND in the DarKnight Movie and became everybody's Favourite Hero)WITHOUT ACCESS TO THE PHANTOM ZONE ANYMORE TO SEND A GENOCIDAL MANIAC who stated that he would keep fighting to the end and kill every human one by one, the only option left was killing him...and Man of Steel did it quickly with only one snap(check how Superman did it in the comics)...Here we saw how Christopher Reeve's Superman broke without any need, the hand and spine of a Powerless villian and throw him to the ice where he would die of cold. Then his Lois do the same and both smile...and after that he goes to take revanche to the man who kicked his ass in that bar scene(and he fought like a pussy...at least Cavil was defeated by Batman and mot a regular man)when he was without his powers(SUPERMAN teaching kids that vengance is a good thing)THAT IS THE SO CALLED "BEST SUPERMAN" and people keep on hateing MofS for breaking one douch's trak and AlienHitler's neckc
Brian London No, they just didn’t make it explicit that they were killed. Doesn’t mean they weren’t. Besides, I’m sure a bunch of kids were watching Batman 89, Man of Steel, Spider-Man (2002) and the dark Knight. Films where the hero kills the villain.
That is totally in character. She's an army brat. In the early 40s Fleischer cartoons she's getting shot at, she picks up a machine gun and shoots back.
Your shook up by a movie ? a fictional movie about an alien killing another alien and a lady killing an alien? oh my how do you get through life ? Shook up omfg lol You must be one of those chicks who was taught to piss yourself if you were ever attacked.
neck snap infront of a child is not the same as freezing the baddies, no proof the baddies died here, they're biology is not the same as humans, henry could've knocked zod out, his arrogance got thousands killed in "man of steal" punching baddies through every building possible, reeve left the fight to protect everyone even if he looked like a coward, a TRUE hero, also here reeve was punished throwing away his hertiage as he lost his powers, in man of steel he didn't give a sh!t about his own race "krypton had its chance" yells cavill
It's a bird, it's a plane, no it's SUPERAN!!!! The most powerful "AN" in the universe! More powerful than the form of a before an initial vowel sound and sometimes, especially in British English, before an initial unstressed syllable beginning with a silent or weakly pronounced h
Ok, so people bitch about Cavill killing zod. Let's look. 1980: Superman breaks every single bone in his hand and throws him, screaming in pain off a massive cliff. 2013: Superman begs and pleads for Zod to not kill the humans, yet zod still attempts to do it. Superman breaks his neck, before falling to the ground while crying, as he has killed the last living Kryptonian and he had no choice.
Another thing is this version 4 super humans flew around fighting no damage no one got hurt at least in mos there's some reality in the fight buildings crashing people were freaking out not cheering and watching
Man of Steel Superman after killing Zod : Painfully screams, because he understands that he broke his rule to not kill anyone, and destroyed his own kind Reeves’s Superman after killing Zod : 1:38
@@agnikaineverdies7646 We don't get a scene showing them dead deleted or not so by that logic Superman didn't kill Zod. Notice how at 1:45 when Ursa falls he even looks as if to make sure she doesn't die.
@@yodita1368 there was no scene like that in the movie. Even so, superman would not have know. He threw zod into a bottomless pit. He expected Zod to die.
I just loved how Superman defeated Zod in this movie. He didn't entirely rely on his own powers, instead, he tricked both Zod and Lex and played them like chess pieces.
@@TheFLAMEXDSuperman didn't kill Zod in the Donner cut, and I noticed that this scene conveniently doesn't show the part where Superman reversed time and sent the Kryptonians back to the phantom zone.
So he murdered Zod, Louis Murders the other chick and the other dude accidentally kills himself. If he's okay with killing a depowered Zod in cold blood why does he not kill Lex Luthor?
Koba yeah, even after all the horrendous things Zod did in MoS Superman still begged him to stop. In this he renders them powerless and kills them with a grin.
Bu.......but he just killed them and is even smiling afterwards. NOT MU SUPERMAN. Seriously, people fucking scream about Snyder ruining Superman by having him kill Zod while praising the Reeve Superman (who I love btw). Jesus, nostalgia is a powerful thing.
It’s crazy how people call the 2013 Superman a murderer but zod wanted to erase the human population and he wouldn’t stop at anything until he did. It’s either take out the threat or let it keep coming back.
It's interesting that Superman killed Zod in the comics, about eight years later, under similar circumstances, but treated with the gravity it deserves. Superman exposes Zod and two of his followers to gold Kryptonite, which has the same effect as the red chamber in Superman II. Zod implies there's a way for it to be reversed and Superman says, as the last survivor of Krypton he holds the right to serve as sole judge of their punishment... and he declares death. The decision haunts him for years afterwards. I always figured it was a response to how cavalier he was about it in here.
In Superman II, Superman kills Zod by breaking his hand and dropping him off a cliff with a smile on his face. In Man of Steel, Superman breaks Zod's neck while he kills him. It's a sudden realization that he killed one of his kind, and he's the only survivor of the planet Krypton. That's why he screamed out in anguish. What's the reason why Superman snapped Zod's neck, you may ask? "NEVER." Zod wasn't going to stop tormenting the people that Superman was trying to protect. Superman II is fun to watch, but Man of Steel makes more sense, and it's more emotional.
I don't know why everyone keeps pushing this weird idea that Cavill's Superman cared at all about kryptoninans. He didn't try and reason with Zod like Jor-El did about coexistence. He wasn't excited in the slightest once he found out there were beings like him and he hardly gave destroying the world engine a second thought. His "scream of anguish" was from the realization that he just snapped a man's neck. The same man that murdered his biological father, threatened Martha, Lois, and was about to destroy all life on earth. That's what makes Clark's following reaction beautiful because despite everything, he didn't want to be forced to kill someone and certainly did not want his grand unveiling of hopeful "Superman" to turn out like it did.
I'm not sure why it's so hard for people to understand that Reeves and Cavill are portraying different versions of Superman. Reeves!Superman is Silver Age Superman: He has powers up the wazoo, is usually much more experienced, and deals with villains through zany schemes and even crazier application of super-powers. Often he would use new super powers on the spot to solve an issue and those powers are never mentioned or used again. His adventures are often charming, low-stakes, and fun spectacle. Cavill!Superman is New 52/Bronze Age Superman: This Superman is a deliberate callback to Superman when he first premiered in the 30's and 40's. He's much more rough around the edges and uses his strength to solve issues. He's still ultimately benevolent but is more likely to lay out a villain with a punch than trick him. New 52 Superman is pretty new in his role as Earth's protector and his adventures come with the question of how best to use his powers while still earning and maintaining the trust of humanity. His is a more traditional character arc where he has flaws, makes mistakes, and learns from them. Both versions are still Superman. And to say one version is more "true" the character doesn't really make sense. Superman is a character that has had 80+ years of publication history. Through those 80 years he has had a number of personalities, personas, and attitudes. The core of the character remains the same, but Superman killing Zod is still as true to his character (he killed him in the comics through exposure to Kryptonite, a much more deliberate and agonizing death than either snapping his neck or throwing him to his death) as sending him back to the Phantom Zone.
Bronze age Superman is far superior than the "bronze age" we got in MoS. It true to be realistic when the bronze age did it better while maintaining his personality in tact.
So even in the comics he STILL kills him one way or another, well then there is no issue here because it is being true to the material then. Besides while the comics can bring other options to defeat a villain man of steel had a clear point, what happens when one almost invincible force wishes to kill everybody and has no reason to stop? killing was the only option there, and if it happened in the original material as well then there is no reason to get angry about it.
Christopher Reeves embodied everything that Superman was, his charisma, purity, virtue and integrity. He was the classic and best version in my opinion! Killing Zod was necessary because the kryptonian was willing to subjugate the Earth and kill innocents to accomplish his goals.
Embodied everything about superman so he teach kids to physically harm people regular humanswhen u have tge powers of a god and that's OK yet when superman in man of steel restrains himself after a perve pushes him and soaks him and mind you he's not evan at the state of life reeves superman is at he just casually leaves and messes up his truck and yet people think cavils superman is Hitler for doing that yet reeves superman beat up regular people while having his powers and being a much older superman much mature one and people praise it lol moving on reeves superman crushes and breaks the hand of a powerless zod and breaks his spine basically tourchering an defenseless none threat none powerd zod than sends him to his death and shortly after shows no remorse for killing just smiles and people like you d rides and praise it when he could have sent zod to jail because apparently "superman never killssss" and yet in man of steel zod HAS HIS POWERS AND CAN STILL DESTROY MILLIONS OF HUMANS and has made it clear he won't stop from killing every human inless Kal kills him and as he's about to disintegrate a family of 4 or was it 5 superman begs him like 4 times to stop BEEGGGS HIM HARRRD and than kills him quickly and after is in DEEEP PAIN and he actually showes it yet yall lable man of steels superman an evil villain an immoral monster for what he couldn't help Yet yall call reeves superman a Saint for torchuering and than droping a powerLESS zod to his death with a broken spine lets the other one unknowingly fall to his death and have his girl kill tye other kryptonian and like 8 seconds after they all tell jokes and smile mcu style after killing 3 people who had no powers
Could Superman have precluded Zod and the others' resourcefulness; and shut off forever the way to get their powers back? If yes according to his demonstrated rules of ethical engagement, Superman is a murderer!
Superman 1981: *killed Zod after taking his power away and smiles* Fan: That's my Superman Superman 2013: *killed Zod by breaking his neck to prevent a family and more people to die and screams in pain not only because he killed someone of his kind but he's also the sole survivor of Krypton* Fan: That's NOT my Superman
because of this scene, I don't see why people get worked up over Superman killing Zod in Man of Steel when it's not thefirst time he did it in a movie....plus these are Movies we are talking about. They take artistic license with preexisting source material, actual history, and real life all the time. It's an entertainment business and the creative liberties they take are all in the name of producing quality works of storytelling and cinematic art (or at least when it's done right)
Victor M Even if superman killed in this movie doesn't mean it was right and it still matter that he killed in man of steel people want the classic superman the superman that fines another way not just kills people off 😓
@@leonfontius5300 How would he have found another way? Zod was getting stronger and was about to kill innocent people and then the rest of the world. And killing one psychopath to protect billions is right. Also does everyone forget that superman kills people in the comics when necessary.
@@kylereese1042 In man of steel superman beats Zod even though Zod is a better and overpowers him there was no reason he couldn't take Zod to space or better yet cover Zod's eyes and blind him
So what's more out of character of superman : Kill a powerful maniac who's about to kill a family after giving him every chance to do so OR Kill the powerless maniac by throwing him to a pit of nothingness ?
I don’t know why but now whenever I hear Margo Kidder say “You’re a Real Pain in the Neck” I think of Derek Chauvin (the blue bastard that killed George Floyd) Rest In Power George Floyd!!!
Christoper Reeve Superman: Kills Zod out of free will and had a choice to spare his life... and went on smiling about it. Like he didn't give a damn Fan: Yes Superman saves the Day! Henry Cavil Superman: Kills Zod because he had no choice, it was either that or watch him burn the innocent family in half, and it actually effects him in doing that. Fan: WHAT THE FUCK!?! SUPERMAN WOULD NEVER DO THAT!!
Superman killed zod he didn't have to zod lost he's power but everybody's ok with it.but in mos superman had to kill zod he had no choice zod was going to kill that family and was never going to stop but everybody had a problem with that.
Cavil's Superman had no other option left than to snap Zod's neck(a Family was in danger the same way Jim Gordon's son was when Batman killed HIS TRAUMATIZED AND DESFIGURED FRIEND in the DarKnight Movie and became everybody's Favourite Hero)WITHOUT ACCESS TO THE PHANTOM ZONE ANYMORE TO SEND A GENOCIDAL MANIAC who stated that he would keep fighting to the end and kill every human one by one, the only option left was killing him...and Man of Steel did it quickly with only one snap(check how Superman did it in the comics)...Here we saw how Christopher Reeve's Superman broke without any need, the hand and spine of a Powerless villian and throw him to the ice where he would die of cold. Then his Lois do the same and both smile...and after that he goes to take revanche to the man who kicked his ass in that bar scene(and he fought like a pussy...at least Cavil was defeated by Batman and mot a regular man)when he was without his powers(SUPERMAN teaching kids that vengance is a good thing)THAT IS THE SO CALLED "BEST SUPERMAN" and people keep on hateing MofS for breaking one douch's trak and AlienHitler's neck
For me without question superman 2 was the best superman ever made. The villans, story, the sets, romance, everything came together so beautifully. I have the dvd but urging for the blu ray version.
Ok, here's another comment comparing this to man of steel! (Even though we've already had enough) In this movie, Clark clearly has no problems with beating the shit out of Zod, and even if he doesn't actually kill him (like some people were saying in the comments), he still would've done it. However, Cavill's Superman DOESN'T want to kill Zod. For all he knows, that's probably the only one of his kind that's still alive (after he destroyed the ship with the baby making machine, or whatever it's called), and when Zod starts using his Lazer vision to kill that family, we realize that no matter what Clark does Zod will keep on going until every single human has been destroyed. No, it wouldn't change a thing if Clark threw Zod into the moon or whatever, not killing Zod meant that he would just come back and continue his slaughter. His death was the ONLY option. So in conclusion: Clark from Superman 2 has no problems with killing Zod, while the Clark from Man Of Steel does.
Idk why those stupid boomers can't understand this, I mean no one's hating any of two superman here for killing, but those snowflakes just felt offended when cavill's superman killed. Superman has killed in comics(canon) Superman has killed old movies Superman has killed in modern movies... There's nothing new here that should make anyone critical.
@@himanshukaushal3885 Superman 2 script - Zod lives Superman 2 Directors cut - Zod lives Deleting a scene, whether people like it or not, doesnt magically change the dimensions of the fortress. The whole reason they shot the scene of Zod getting arrested is because OBVIOUSLY.....FREAKIN OBVIOUSLY this version of Superman wouldn't kill Zod & he certainly wouldn't smile as Lois murders someone. Its just plain dumb to interpret it as Lois murdering. They deleted the scene of them being arrested as its unnecessary. Pacing works better without the scene. I dont care at all if he killed Zod. I'm just saying one has to be intentionally misunderstanding everything this director was going for to truly believe he made Lois a murderer. The villians are DEFEATED and the movie moves towards its conclusion. We dont need to see Supes fly to get the arctic police and help ZOD & co get arrested. It drags the ending down
@@integrity101 You're incredibly ignorant. Or just really stupid. It doesn't matter what the script says. That did not translate to the big screen. The original theatrical cut shows Zod and his lackeys falling into a bottomless pit. There is no "magical" change to the fortress, because they were never changed in the first place. It doesn't matter how you think it was framed. The intention might have been for Zod to survive but the director clearly decided that it wasn't worth it. Also, you're only half-right about the director's cut - Zod only lives in some versions because Superman reversed time (again) and erased the entire events of the movie. That whole Arctic Police BS? Never made into either of those cuts. Only ever appeared in TV slots and even then those were rare. There is no misunderstanding here. We don't see Superman fly off to get the police. We just see him fly off. And even if he did fly to get the police, who do you think they're coming for? Not Zod, you dolt. For LUTHOR. The ending is dependent what is shown and there is nothing that shows the Kryptonians surviving this.
FOR THE RECORD.... When audiences watched this back in the day, NOBODY came away with "he killed Zod". I certainly did not. We just see them plunged into the deep freeze and it's ???. It's was an understood comic book ending, make the villians appear defeated their fate a mystery, but we all know they will be back.
I just found how hilariously backward is when we think about it. This superman had a depowered Zod, kills him, and smiles! AND EVERYBODY LOVES IT, while in Man of steel Zod clearly said he wouldn't stop until every single human was dead, his neck being snapped was more than justified AND PEOPLE HATED IT! What sense does that make? this Sups is basically a cold-blooded murderer, and people are ok with that! EVEN LANE KILLS HERE!
Because he is silver age Superman. He can go overboard a bit because anyways he can turn back time and undo it. And that is exactly what he did. Plus the rendition is supposed to be a bit on the comical end. Look at Lex Luther and his sidekicks in this movie and compare that with Batman vs Superman Lex Luthor. Today's movies are supposed to be dark and realistic. Different from the comic fun types of yesteryears.
@@gamer-ff6mh So what if they are darker? The point being that if killing in the silver age was ok, then killing should STILL be ok to this day! or what are you gonna tell me that there is no modern comics in which superman kills? Just because this one can turn back time doesn't mean the viewer completely forgets that sups still killed Zod, even without powers which was totally unnecessary then.
Superman 2 has heart and is a well made film. Man of Steel is a long, loud CGI spectacle with no emotion. Thats the difference. Christopher Reeves was likable and charming. Henry Cavil was wooden and depressing. For the record Zod didn't die in Superman 2.
There'll never be superman films like the donner ones. Perfectly cast, using the finest of practical fx.The cinematography and colour grading in the donner cut is perfect just like superman the movie. All the colours especially on superman's suit just looks amazing.
I love the fact that not only does he kill them, but he then turns around and blows up their bodies along with the Fortress of Solitude just to make sure they're dead! This Superman doesn't fuck around!
neck snap infront of a child is not the same as freezing the baddies, no proof the baddies died here, they're biology is not the same as humans, henry could've knocked zod out, his arrogance got thousands killed in "man of steal" punching baddies through every building possible, reeve left the fight to protect everyone even if he looked like a coward, a TRUE hero, also here reeve was punished throwing away his hertiage as he lost his powers, in man of steel he didn't give a sh!t about his own race "krypton had its chance" yells cavill
@@STOP_FAKENEWSIf you say Superman is arrogant for doing that in the middle of the city so is the Avengers in New York. It was an inevitable event, people died and they need to accept that they can't save everyone.
Superman didn't kill Zod in the Donner cut, and I noticed that this scene conveniently doesn't show the part where Superman reversed time and sent the Kryptonians back to the phantom zone.
Ah Superman II, the Whedon vs Snyder of my parents’ grneration. Supes kills in the theatrical because Joss Lester gave no fucks about the mythos. Zack Donner gave us s much more emotional and sad climax, with Supes destroying his Fortress now that Jor-El is gone forever and Lex (and the Arctic Police!) know it’s locstion. Plus Supes initially leaving Lois’s memory intact to trust her with his secrets but never being able to be together again. A victory that came with some heavy costs.
He took the battle away from the city to protect the public. He realized that he could not defeat them will their powers. He came up with a plan to take away their powers. He knew Lex will betray him and he pretended to lose his powers. He used his mind to outthink them.
What a badass. No one will come close to Christopher.. the way he portrayed goofy nice guy Clark and then just magically transformed into Superman mode. It-He truly was mesmerizing.
1:47,simply hilarious-Lois(as she turns to Non, who's captured her):"Hey,you know something? You're a real pain in the neck!" and with that, belts her and that's the end of her. I've always remembered that part the most,just hilarious!
Actually, if you look at the scene, Superman and Lois are hugging by the ocean (filled with icebergs), so it is possible (in a comic book world) that Zod and friends slid down the ice wall and into the ocean where they froze, like Captain America.
Superman here smiles after killing Zod.
Superman in Man of Steel cries after killing Zod and everyone loses their minds.
@Brian London deleted scenes dont count kid
@Brian London the one with the deleted scene is the actual cut and even if they did survive superman crushed zods arm and laughed about it. Plus superman has killed people in comica and animation
Well, you see, in Superman 2 it was "all a part of the plan."
100% The next best Lex is Michael Rosenbaum from Smallville and the voice himself from the 90s Animated Series is Clancy Brown
I never had an issue with it in either movie.
People in the 80s: wow, Superman killed Zod, I did NOT expect that, what a great movie.
People in 2013: Superman killed Zod!? What the heck!? Superman doesn't kill!!!
If you watch movies from back then, people get killed off left and right and even off screen. It's just never graphic because that would require extra SFX work.
Cavil's Superman had no other option left than to snap Zod's neck(a Family was in danger the same way Jim Gordon's son was when Batman killed HIS TRAUMATIZED AND DESFIGURED FRIEND in the DarKnight Movie and became everybody's Favourite Hero)WITHOUT ACCESS TO THE PHANTOM ZONE ANYMORE TO SEND A GENOCIDAL MANIAC who stated that he would keep fighting to the end and kill every human one by one, the only option left was killing him...and Man of Steel did it quickly with only one snap(check how Superman did it in the comics)...Here we saw how Christopher Reeve's Superman broke without any need, the hand and spine of a Powerless villian and throw him to the ice where he would die of cold.
Then his Lois do the same and both smile...and after that he goes to take revanche to the man who kicked his ass in that bar scene(and he fought like a pussy...at least Cavil was defeated by Batman and mot a regular man)when he was without his powers(SUPERMAN teaching kids that vengance is a good thing)THAT IS THE SO CALLED "BEST SUPERMAN" and people keep on hateing MofS for breaking one douch's trak and AlienHitler's neck
People in the 80s (Superman 2): Oh, that Zod guy lost his powers and was arrested.
People in 2006 (Superman 2 Donner Cut): Oh, Superman killed Zod but then reversed time to bring him back to life.
People in 2013: Ooh, snap.
@@zarabada6125 zod wasnt arrested in the original superman 2 movie that reference you're making was aired on TV years later.
@@manofmartin I watched Superman 2 on TV in the 80s, so my statement is entirely correct.
"A real pain in the neck," huh? Should've seen that coming.
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@DanteSnake92 That's in really bad taste. I wouldn't wish what happened to Christopher Reeve on anyone.
@@ppuh6tfrz646 I think he was talking about the foreshawdowing of Cavill's Superman Killed Zod by Breaking his neck.
@@angelg6565 No, he wasn't.
@@ppuh6tfrz646 Ok, i'm Just guessing.
I remember being a kid in the 80s watching this and for some weird reason nobody made a big deal about Superman killing Zod back then ,but you they made a big deal about Henry Cavill killing him, in Man of Steel
Because he didnt kill Zod
@@integrity101 yes, Zod without powers was killed, back-break included. Stop trying to revise history. Some of us actually watched the movie long before the donner cut was released.
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So did i. Your the one pushing this revisionist HISTORY.
by your brilliant logic Zod was murdered then SUPERMAN stood their and smiled as LOIS (in no danger whatsoever) murdered URSA. Yea ok😉
You gotta be a special kind of stupid to believe that non sense. Practice critical thinking Forrest
Well, back in the 80's there wasn't as many SJWs out there as there are when Man of Steel came out.
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Man Of Steel was great. Zack Snyder's Justice League is comin soon too
*Technically* this scene is even more brutal than MoS because in this version Zod is now human. Supes kills him with a smile! 💀
They deleted scene when he survive
@@paulz4667I wish people stoppef bringing that up.
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@@paulz4667it’s not a deleted scene but actually the Richard donner version of the film😅
@@Lucas-te9jt that's right it's been years since I saw that cut they played in a retro cinema nearby. I watched Batman mask of phantasm recently
and people call Cavil's superman a murder.
8th wonder of the world he wasn't killed, in the deleted scenes the police comes and arrested them 3 to face justice.
the key point in you comment there. Deleted. as in not part of the movie. also i have seen that scene. not once did i see zod or the other 2. it was lex luthor who was arrested. and lastly there is liturally no way he could of survived. the crushing of his hand like that would cause bloodvessels to burst and the pain would of put him in shock.
8th wonder of the world dude, it's a fucking movie with aliens that get powers from the sun. And you trying to put reality in it to make sense. Good luck.
aliens who lost their powers and became human.
8th wonder of the world K.
"Hey, ya know something? You're a real pain in the neck!" Lois punches Ursa.
That's one of my favorite scenes.
I think Ursa is a lesbian...?!
Lois just killed Ursa-
I'll have you know that, according to Margot Kidder (Lois Lane), during one of the takes when filming that scene she actually accidentally hit Sarah Douglas (Ursa) "a little too hard", knocking her unconscious.
so Superman kills zod in this movie, nobody cares, superman kills zod in man of steel EVERYONE LOSES THERE MINDS.
We live in a sensitive age where even villains deserve to be treated with kindness.
memoranda1 No, people only like villains because they think they’re hot
28dayslater559 what a genius comment. I salute you man , I salute you.
Didn’t snap his neck tho
The Dark Knight reference?
Goddammit Lois! For all we know, that was the last female kriptonian!
IKR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SudsyMedusa53 Kara arrived a year later.
THE POLICE SAVED URSA WITH THEIR CRASH MATS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND THEN WHY SHE WAY TRIED IN COURT, SHE WAS IMPRISONED IN THE WHITE HOUSE, AND WHEN BILL CLINTON CAME TO POWER, HE HAD HER CHAINED TO THE WALL OF THE OVAL OFFICE SO HE COULD FEEL HER BREASTS ON A DAILY BASIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SudsyMedusa53 Well her powers are gone so she was pretty much 100% human now.
She just fell into some soft cushions covered up by a dry ice fog machine maker that was turned on at the time to create fog. So she is ok.
So let me get this straight zod losses his power, superman crushescrushes zods hand, send him flying into a wall breaking his back and let him fall down a hole in the ice fortress.
But thats all fine, atleast he didnt snap zod neck to prevent him from killing some humans with his heat vision.
If this came out today, all the fanboys would call Superman a sadist & a murderer because he could've easily kept all three of his fellow Kryptonians alive after rendering them powerless.
Glad you agree.
oh jeeze they do use the back break sound effect when he throws him against the ice. brutal
Cavil's Superman had no other option left than to snap Zod's neck(a Family was in danger the same way Jim Gordon's son was when Batman killed HIS TRAUMATIZED AND DESFIGURED FRIEND in the DarKnight Movie and became everybody's Favourite Hero)WITHOUT ACCESS TO THE PHANTOM ZONE ANYMORE TO SEND A GENOCIDAL MANIAC who stated that he would keep fighting to the end and kill every human one by one, the only option left was killing him...and Man of Steel did it quickly with only one snap(check how Superman did it in the comics)...Here we saw how Christopher Reeve's Superman broke without any need, the hand and spine of a Powerless villian and throw him to the ice where he would die of cold.
Then his Lois do the same and both smile...and after that he goes to take revanche to the man who kicked his ass in that bar scene(and he fought like a pussy...at least Cavil was defeated by Batman and mot a regular man)when he was without his powers(SUPERMAN teaching kids that vengance is a good thing)THAT IS THE SO CALLED "BEST SUPERMAN" and people keep on hateing MofS for breaking one douch's trak and AlienHitler's neckc
Brian London No, they just didn’t make it explicit that they were killed. Doesn’t mean they weren’t. Besides, I’m sure a bunch of kids were watching Batman 89, Man of Steel, Spider-Man (2002) and the dark Knight. Films where the hero kills the villain.
I still cannot believe that he gone already. RIP Mr Reeve, you are the best Superman. And you always live in our hearts who is truly love you.
Helen Tran Its even worse now that Margot Kidder also passed away
Somehow I am even more shook by Louis Lane punching someone into oblivion.
Louis Lane kills a Kryptonian.
That is totally in character. She's an army brat. In the early 40s Fleischer cartoons she's getting shot at, she picks up a machine gun and shoots back.
Your shook up by a movie ? a fictional movie about an alien killing another alien and a lady killing an alien? oh my how do you get through life ? Shook up omfg lol You must be one of those chicks who was taught to piss yourself if you were ever attacked.
@@zarnell dude calm tf down...
neck snap infront of a child is not the same as freezing the baddies, no proof the baddies died here, they're biology is not the same as humans, henry could've knocked zod out, his arrogance got thousands killed in "man of steal" punching baddies through every building possible, reeve left the fight to protect everyone even if he looked like a coward, a TRUE hero, also here reeve was punished throwing away his hertiage as he lost his powers, in man of steel he didn't give a sh!t about his own race "krypton had its chance" yells cavill
R.I.P.---To the best man that ever played the character of SUPERMAN!!!
It's a bird, it's a plane, no it's SUPERAN!!!! The most powerful "AN" in the universe! More powerful than the form of a before an initial vowel sound and sometimes, especially in British English, before an initial unstressed syllable beginning with a silent or weakly pronounced h
yes. I love SUPERAN
hell no cavill
But who is your favorite actor to play BATAN?
BATAN and ROIN vs THE JOER w/ HAREY QUINN
Ok, so people bitch about Cavill killing zod. Let's look.
1980: Superman breaks every single bone in his hand and throws him, screaming in pain off a massive cliff.
2013: Superman begs and pleads for Zod to not kill the humans, yet zod still attempts to do it. Superman breaks his neck, before falling to the ground while crying, as he has killed the last living Kryptonian and he had no choice.
Another thing is this version 4 super humans flew around fighting no damage no one got hurt at least in mos there's some reality in the fight buildings crashing people were freaking out not cheering and watching
@@davonross1022
_"Another thing is this version 4 super humans flew around fighting no damage no one got hurt (...)"_
Yes they frigging did! o_O
Smiled too when he killed him
"Hey, you know something? You're a real pain in the neck!" Bye-bye, Ursa.
I love Lois !
In a movie nowadays she'd probably say, you're a real bitch!
followed by that scream
Lois: 'Hey, you know something? You're a real pain in the neck!'
2013 Zod: 'I know *exactly* what you're talking about.'
Man of Steel Superman after killing Zod : Painfully screams, because he understands that he broke his rule to not kill anyone, and destroyed his own kind
Reeves’s Superman after killing Zod : 1:38
that's because he didn't kill him. Next scene they apear being arrested by police
@@yodita1368, that was a deleted scene which isn’t part of the movie, Clark killed zod
@@agnikaineverdies7646 We don't get a scene showing them dead deleted or not so by that logic Superman didn't kill Zod. Notice how at 1:45 when Ursa falls he even looks as if to make sure she doesn't die.
@@yodita1368 there was no scene like that in the movie. Even so, superman would not have know. He threw zod into a bottomless pit. He expected Zod to die.
He cries because when he twisted the neck of Zod, the family was killed by the laser of Zod's eyes.
My childhood memories are Christopher Reeves and Margot Kidder.... rest in beautiful peace the pair of them.... they gave me brilliant memories x
0:57 Hearing that hand crushed always put a smile into my face :)
For some reason, I always get a craving for some Pringles when I hear it.
Yes
@@jonessantos9187 it's not killing it's defeated killing is were the whole body shuts down defeat is we're your knocked out or restrained held down
What about the snap from 2013?
Cringe
I just loved how Superman defeated Zod in this movie. He didn't entirely rely on his own powers, instead, he tricked both Zod and Lex and played them like chess pieces.
He straight up kills Zod.
@@TheFLAMEXD Well, yeah, I didn't said otherwise: I said he didn't entirely rely on his powers, he first tricked them
@@TheFLAMEXDSuperman didn't kill Zod in the Donner cut, and I noticed that this scene conveniently doesn't show the part where Superman reversed time and sent the Kryptonians back to the phantom zone.
Christopher Reeve.Total class!RIP!
So he murdered Zod, Louis Murders the other chick and the other dude accidentally kills himself. If he's okay with killing a depowered Zod in cold blood why does he not kill Lex Luthor?
Larry J Lois got a sex change because Superman is freaky
Lex Luthor was still a human being. The others, even when they were depowered, were not.
because his a self hating kryptonian LOL
Great question
I didn't know Superman was JJE. It's cold blood murder.
RIP Christopher Reeve and Margot Kidder, the best Superman and Lois Lane ever
Heck no, this superman is so cringe
I agree warhawk, they really brought the characters to life
@@gabeitch1224 listen you still have time to delete this garbage comment from this world
Yes, a love story more than a super hero. Didn't notice that as a kid, but movie is better than any movie in past 20 years.
Easily
And just think: in 2013's _Man Of Steel_ he does it again!! 😃
but in this it's cold blooded murder. in MoS it was justifiable homicide.
Koba yeah, even after all the horrendous things Zod did in MoS Superman still begged him to stop. In this he renders them powerless and kills them with a grin.
Rez he's a blood thursty bandit in this
there was originally supposed to be a scene showing that they survived the fall but it was cut.
And in Man of Steel, he cried over Zod's body showing how he didn't like doing it.
Bu.......but he just killed them and is even smiling afterwards. NOT MU SUPERMAN.
Seriously, people fucking scream about Snyder ruining Superman by having him kill Zod while praising the Reeve Superman (who I love btw). Jesus, nostalgia is a powerful thing.
Zod: "Now, kneel before Zod."
(Superman kneels)
Zod: "You are not Superman. No one who saves so many could possible kneel so quickly."
It’s crazy how people call the 2013 Superman a murderer but zod wanted to erase the human population and he wouldn’t stop at anything until he did. It’s either take out the threat or let it keep coming back.
Man of Steel was a bad movie, but Superman killing Zod was completely fine.
@@Idazmi7 Man of Steel wasn’t a bad movie.
@@trevturp7687
It was. It took too much from Batman Begins: Superman doesn't work well with Batman's style.
@@northproductions6104 yea well he would’ve just kept coming back causing even more damage
@@northproductions6104 Yes, he doesn’t kill people, but he killed Zod in this movie and in Man of Steel.
R.i.p. Margot Kidder, she was a great Lois Lane!!
And Christopher Reeve
@@doggytribeleader8522 Exactly, he died, when, a few years ago?
@@JadenYukifan28 2004
@@doggytribeleader8522 That far back? Wow...
@@JadenYukifan28 yes, unfortunately
It's interesting that Superman killed Zod in the comics, about eight years later, under similar circumstances, but treated with the gravity it deserves.
Superman exposes Zod and two of his followers to gold Kryptonite, which has the same effect as the red chamber in Superman II. Zod implies there's a way for it to be reversed and Superman says, as the last survivor of Krypton he holds the right to serve as sole judge of their punishment... and he declares death.
The decision haunts him for years afterwards.
I always figured it was a response to how cavalier he was about it in here.
he blew up the fortress with luthor cool
Gene Hackman was great as Lex
He was a great actor in general. Highly underrated in my opinion...
He's a great actor, but as Lex, he reminded me of my elementary school principal. I've seen him play much better villains.
What about Kevin spacey
@@judekay7819 Kevin was ok as well
At 90 Years-Old! and going, he has outlived Marlon Brando, Margot Kidder, and Christopher Reeve!
Reeves really set the image for Superman. Every time they get someone they try to look like him. And Terence Stamp did the same with Zod.
Actually, the original comics from like the 30's set the image for Superman lol
@@ezekial7028
True.
This superman kills a defensless zod but have problems with supetman killing a zod who will stop at nothing to kill every human being on earth
Just stupid very stupid double standards. Both Superman did right thing especially synderverse Superman.
The Superman I grew up with.
Shame we lost out on his version of Superman getting more love
It's actually a way into the Chamber of Secrets....
Greg Wilkinson Zod gets eaten by the basilisk
In Superman II, Superman kills Zod by breaking his hand and dropping him off a cliff with a smile on his face.
In Man of Steel, Superman breaks Zod's neck while he kills him. It's a sudden realization that he killed one of his kind, and he's the only survivor of the planet Krypton. That's why he screamed out in anguish. What's the reason why Superman snapped Zod's neck, you may ask? "NEVER." Zod wasn't going to stop tormenting the people that Superman was trying to protect. Superman II is fun to watch, but Man of Steel makes more sense, and it's more emotional.
I don't know why everyone keeps pushing this weird idea that Cavill's Superman cared at all about kryptoninans. He didn't try and reason with Zod like Jor-El did about coexistence. He wasn't excited in the slightest once he found out there were beings like him and he hardly gave destroying the world engine a second thought. His "scream of anguish" was from the realization that he just snapped a man's neck. The same man that murdered his biological father, threatened Martha, Lois, and was about to destroy all life on earth. That's what makes Clark's following reaction beautiful because despite everything, he didn't want to be forced to kill someone and certainly did not want his grand unveiling of hopeful "Superman" to turn out like it did.
@Persian Gulf hey he was good, dont say that
I'm not sure why it's so hard for people to understand that Reeves and Cavill are portraying different versions of Superman.
Reeves!Superman is Silver Age Superman: He has powers up the wazoo, is usually much more experienced, and deals with villains through zany schemes and even crazier application of super-powers. Often he would use new super powers on the spot to solve an issue and those powers are never mentioned or used again. His adventures are often charming, low-stakes, and fun spectacle.
Cavill!Superman is New 52/Bronze Age Superman: This Superman is a deliberate callback to Superman when he first premiered in the 30's and 40's. He's much more rough around the edges and uses his strength to solve issues. He's still ultimately benevolent but is more likely to lay out a villain with a punch than trick him. New 52 Superman is pretty new in his role as Earth's protector and his adventures come with the question of how best to use his powers while still earning and maintaining the trust of humanity. His is a more traditional character arc where he has flaws, makes mistakes, and learns from them.
Both versions are still Superman. And to say one version is more "true" the character doesn't really make sense. Superman is a character that has had 80+ years of publication history. Through those 80 years he has had a number of personalities, personas, and attitudes. The core of the character remains the same, but Superman killing Zod is still as true to his character (he killed him in the comics through exposure to Kryptonite, a much more deliberate and agonizing death than either snapping his neck or throwing him to his death) as sending him back to the Phantom Zone.
Well said.
Bronze age Superman is far superior than the "bronze age" we got in MoS. It true to be realistic when the bronze age did it better while maintaining his personality in tact.
new 52 hasn’t happened yet, remember, we’re getting a flashpoint movie
Silver and Bronze age are the same thing. I think with Cavill you actually mean post-crisis
So even in the comics he STILL kills him one way or another, well then there is no issue here because it is being true to the material then. Besides while the comics can bring other options to defeat a villain man of steel had a clear point, what happens when one almost invincible force wishes to kill everybody and has no reason to stop? killing was the only option there, and if it happened in the original material as well then there is no reason to get angry about it.
Christopher Reeves embodied everything that Superman was, his charisma, purity, virtue and integrity. He was the classic and best version in my opinion!
Killing Zod was necessary because the kryptonian was willing to subjugate the Earth and kill innocents to accomplish his goals.
Once turned into humans, prison would have worked.
Embodied everything about superman so he teach kids to physically harm people regular humanswhen u have tge powers of a god and that's OK yet when superman in man of steel restrains himself after a perve pushes him and soaks him and mind you he's not evan at the state of life reeves superman is at he just casually leaves and messes up his truck and yet people think cavils superman is Hitler for doing that yet reeves superman beat up regular people while having his powers and being a much older superman much mature one and people praise it lol moving on reeves superman crushes and breaks the hand of a powerless zod and breaks his spine basically tourchering an defenseless none threat none powerd zod than sends him to his death and shortly after shows no remorse for killing just smiles and people like you d rides and praise it when he could have sent zod to jail because apparently "superman never killssss" and yet in man of steel zod HAS HIS POWERS AND CAN STILL DESTROY MILLIONS OF HUMANS and has made it clear he won't stop from killing every human inless Kal kills him and as he's about to disintegrate a family of 4 or was it 5 superman begs him like 4 times to stop BEEGGGS HIM HARRRD and than kills him quickly and after is in DEEEP PAIN and he actually showes it yet yall lable man of steels superman an evil villain an immoral monster for what he couldn't help Yet yall call reeves superman a Saint for torchuering and than droping a powerLESS zod to his death with a broken spine lets the other one unknowingly fall to his death and have his girl kill tye other kryptonian and like 8 seconds after they all tell jokes and smile mcu style after killing 3 people who had no powers
@@BESTMOADExactly Reeve Superman was trash
Only in the tv cut they get arrested in this version he reverses time and they are back in the phantom zone
Could Superman have precluded Zod and the others' resourcefulness; and shut off forever the way to get their powers back? If yes according to his demonstrated rules of ethical engagement, Superman is a murderer!
"Too late, Luthor. TOO late."
Clark has some moderate humor.
Christopher Reeve and Margot Kidder will forever be missed.
Superman 2 is one of the few sequels that was really worth watching more than once
Superman 1981: *killed Zod after taking his power away and smiles* Fan: That's my Superman Superman 2013: *killed Zod by breaking his neck to prevent a family and more people to die and screams in pain not only because he killed someone of his kind but he's also the sole survivor of Krypton* Fan: That's NOT my Superman
Tbh like most people Superman killing zod was the least of my problems with MoS. There were several other bigger reasons why MoS wasn’t superman
@@shaghilathar3588 I don't have an issue with the neck snapping but the dad
1980*
How was Lois not freezing shes in the North Pole
Pokemon Nerd Because she's so hot for Superman.
zhengyingli Haha
Pokemon Nerd Because it's fake
Mo Ali she doesn't feel the cold as long as she's close to Superman.
She's got the hots for Superman.
Superman doesn´t smile because he killed Zod (and he didn´t kill him). Superman smiles because his trap worked.
Thank you. That is what I have been saying since I was a little boy.
Yes he killed zod.Its a deleted scene that you are talking about.Deleted scenes are deleted buddy.They are not movie.
They're all dead dude. Like reduced to paté on the ground dead.
He killed him boy, don't try to defend this.
because of this scene, I don't see why people get worked up over Superman killing Zod in Man of Steel when it's not thefirst time he did it in a movie....plus these are Movies we are talking about. They take artistic license with preexisting source material, actual history, and real life all the time. It's an entertainment business and the creative liberties they take are all in the name of producing quality works of storytelling and cinematic art (or at least when it's done right)
Victor M Even if superman killed in this movie doesn't mean it was right and it still matter that he killed in man of steel people want the classic superman the superman that fines another way not just kills people off 😓
Excellent answer Victor M
Leon Fontius The classic Superman just killed people then smiled the people you talk about are complete morons
@@leonfontius5300 How would he have found another way? Zod was getting stronger and was about to kill innocent people and then the rest of the world. And killing one psychopath to protect billions is right. Also does everyone forget that superman kills people in the comics when necessary.
@@kylereese1042 In man of steel superman beats Zod even though Zod is a better and overpowers him there was no reason he couldn't take Zod to space or better yet cover Zod's eyes and blind him
This Superman seems a nice guy
But In Batman Vs. Superman Dawn Of Justice He Died And That Was His Death
You should watch Superman III, there's a point where he goes nuts.
@@ezekial7028 Nah, it was just a heartless clone.
Don’t mess with Superman
Não é possível que nos dias atuais Hollywood não consiga produzir um filme do Superman com tanta qualidade.
So what's more out of character of superman : Kill a powerful maniac who's about to kill a family after giving him every chance to do so OR Kill the powerless maniac by throwing him to a pit of nothingness ?
Christopher Reeve was not only SUPERMAN on film, he was also a SUPERMAN in real life itself. God bless him.
Love that part "You know something, you’re a real pain in the neck"
I don’t know why but now whenever I hear Margo Kidder say “You’re a Real Pain in the Neck” I think of Derek Chauvin (the blue bastard that killed George Floyd) Rest In Power George Floyd!!!
You know... seeing as how superman has the power to turn back time.... it kind of makes the entirety of this movie moot.
But he only did it in the first movie. He didn't do it here.
The turning back time thing was originally going to be in this movie. Superman I and II were filmed at the same time.
@@SeanWheeler100 he turns back time again in the Donner Cut. They all end up back in the Phantom Zone floating through space forever.
@@SeanWheeler100 turns back time in Donner cut.
True. That part is completely not needed.
El apretón de mano es una de las mejores escenas de la película.
Christoper Reeve Superman:
Kills Zod out of free will and had a choice to spare his life... and went on smiling about it. Like he didn't give a damn
Fan: Yes Superman saves the Day!
Henry Cavil Superman:
Kills Zod because he had no choice, it was either that or watch him burn the innocent family in half, and it actually effects him in doing that.
Fan: WHAT THE FUCK!?! SUPERMAN WOULD NEVER DO THAT!!
Exactly. I agree with you.
Brasil 🇧🇷
American netizens complain and give hate to Synderverse Superman for no valid reason
Superman killed zod he didn't have to zod lost he's power but everybody's ok with it.but in mos superman had to kill zod he had no choice zod was going to kill that family and was never going to stop but everybody had a problem with that.
Cavil's Superman had no other option left than to snap Zod's neck(a Family was in danger the same way Jim Gordon's son was when Batman killed HIS TRAUMATIZED AND DESFIGURED FRIEND in the DarKnight Movie and became everybody's Favourite Hero)WITHOUT ACCESS TO THE PHANTOM ZONE ANYMORE TO SEND A GENOCIDAL MANIAC who stated that he would keep fighting to the end and kill every human one by one, the only option left was killing him...and Man of Steel did it quickly with only one snap(check how Superman did it in the comics)...Here we saw how Christopher Reeve's Superman broke without any need, the hand and spine of a Powerless villian and throw him to the ice where he would die of cold.
Then his Lois do the same and both smile...and after that he goes to take revanche to the man who kicked his ass in that bar scene(and he fought like a pussy...at least Cavil was defeated by Batman and mot a regular man)when he was without his powers(SUPERMAN teaching kids that vengance is a good thing)THAT IS THE SO CALLED "BEST SUPERMAN" and people keep on hateing MofS for breaking one douch's trak and AlienHitler's neck
@@jackrusio4918 "AlienHitler" That's great lol
One of the last times I heard an audience roar and cheer.
For me without question superman 2 was the best superman ever made. The villans, story, the sets, romance, everything came together so beautifully. I have the dvd but urging for the blu ray version.
Not only did Supes kill a dude, he also sought revenge on the bully who beat him up in the diner.
Ok, here's another comment comparing this to man of steel! (Even though we've already had enough)
In this movie, Clark clearly has no problems with beating the shit out of Zod, and even if he doesn't actually kill him (like some people were saying in the comments), he still would've done it.
However, Cavill's Superman DOESN'T want to kill Zod. For all he knows, that's probably the only one of his kind that's still alive (after he destroyed the ship with the baby making machine, or whatever it's called), and when Zod starts using his Lazer vision to kill that family, we realize that no matter what Clark does Zod will keep on going until every single human has been destroyed. No, it wouldn't change a thing if Clark threw Zod into the moon or whatever, not killing Zod meant that he would just come back and continue his slaughter. His death was the ONLY option.
So in conclusion: Clark from Superman 2 has no problems with killing Zod, while the Clark from Man Of Steel does.
Idk why those stupid boomers can't understand this, I mean no one's hating any of two superman here for killing, but those snowflakes just felt offended when cavill's superman killed.
Superman has killed in comics(canon)
Superman has killed old movies
Superman has killed in modern movies...
There's nothing new here that should make anyone critical.
@@himanshukaushal3885
Superman 2 script - Zod lives
Superman 2 Directors cut - Zod lives
Deleting a scene, whether people like it or not, doesnt magically change the dimensions of the fortress. The whole reason they shot the scene of Zod getting arrested is because OBVIOUSLY.....FREAKIN OBVIOUSLY this version of Superman wouldn't kill Zod & he certainly wouldn't smile as Lois murders someone. Its just plain dumb to interpret it as Lois murdering.
They deleted the scene of them being arrested as its unnecessary. Pacing works better without the scene.
I dont care at all if he killed Zod. I'm just saying one has to be intentionally misunderstanding everything this director was going for to truly believe he made Lois a murderer.
The villians are DEFEATED and the movie moves towards its conclusion. We dont need to see Supes fly to get the arctic police and help ZOD & co get arrested. It drags the ending down
Well Zod was kind of a douchebag sooo….
Batman to Superman :
So....we can kill our arch nemesis?
@@integrity101
You're incredibly ignorant. Or just really stupid.
It doesn't matter what the script says. That did not translate to the big screen. The original theatrical cut shows Zod and his lackeys falling into a bottomless pit. There is no "magical" change to the fortress, because they were never changed in the first place.
It doesn't matter how you think it was framed. The intention might have been for Zod to survive but the director clearly decided that it wasn't worth it.
Also, you're only half-right about the director's cut - Zod only lives in some versions because Superman reversed time (again) and erased the entire events of the movie. That whole Arctic Police BS? Never made into either of those cuts. Only ever appeared in TV slots and even then those were rare.
There is no misunderstanding here.
We don't see Superman fly off to get the police. We just see him fly off. And even if he did fly to get the police, who do you think they're coming for? Not Zod, you dolt. For LUTHOR.
The ending is dependent what is shown and there is nothing that shows the Kryptonians surviving this.
"Donner Superman never killed"
oooops ;)
FOR THE RECORD.... When audiences watched this back in the day, NOBODY came away with "he killed Zod". I certainly did not. We just see them plunged into the deep freeze
and it's ???. It's was an understood comic book ending, make the villians appear defeated their fate a mystery, but we all know they will be back.
You didn't mind superman smiling sadistically as snapped the bones in helpless zod's hand, though ... That's gonna leave a mark.
True. Even Mace Windu and Palpatine's deaths were left out purposefully. Though they did show many many deaths in 80s star wars
I just found how hilariously backward is when we think about it. This superman had a depowered Zod, kills him, and smiles! AND EVERYBODY LOVES IT, while in Man of steel Zod clearly said he wouldn't stop until every single human was dead, his neck being snapped was more than justified AND PEOPLE HATED IT!
What sense does that make? this Sups is basically a cold-blooded murderer, and people are ok with that! EVEN LANE KILLS HERE!
True.
Because he is silver age Superman. He can go overboard a bit because anyways he can turn back time and undo it. And that is exactly what he did. Plus the rendition is supposed to be a bit on the comical end.
Look at Lex Luther and his sidekicks in this movie and compare that with Batman vs Superman Lex Luthor. Today's movies are supposed to be dark and realistic. Different from the comic fun types of yesteryears.
@@gamer-ff6mh So what if they are darker? The point being that if killing in the silver age was ok, then killing should STILL be ok to this day! or what are you gonna tell me that there is no modern comics in which superman kills? Just because this one can turn back time doesn't mean the viewer completely forgets that sups still killed Zod, even without powers which was totally unnecessary then.
Superman 2 has heart and is a well made film. Man of Steel is a long, loud CGI spectacle with no emotion. Thats the difference. Christopher Reeves was likable and charming. Henry Cavil was wooden and depressing. For the record Zod didn't die in Superman 2.
@@Throbingkcoc man of steel had no emotion? u snyder haters are fucking dumb
STILL the GREATEST Superman actor and movie
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#GREATScene
1:43 LAST WORDS TO SAY TO AN EX HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA
I never realised how much Monica Geller looked like Lois Lane
There'll never be superman films like the donner ones. Perfectly cast, using the finest of practical fx.The cinematography and colour grading in the donner cut is perfect just like superman the movie. All the colours especially on superman's suit just looks amazing.
I think Tyler Hoechlin could pull off the acting, just not with Arrowverse writers 😆
Richard donner movies are garbage
@Voot! Voot! What Richard donner movies in general or the Superman Films ?
@@thefan974just the superman movies which were Directed by Richard donner
Sorry for the late reply
@Voot! Voot! Well what don't u lie about the donner superman flicks anyway?
Get me everytime, the best switcheroo in Hollywood history!
I love the fact that not only does he kill them, but he then turns around and blows up their bodies along with the Fortress of Solitude just to make sure they're dead!
This Superman doesn't fuck around!
No, he did that so that they couldn't use the crystal chamber to get their powers back. I think they're still alive...somewhere.
Gene Gackmam characters seems like a guy who would try to sell me a car that doesn't fully function.
Superman smiles after killing zod in this but 2013 he screams and cries. Just goes to show you how sensitive our world has become.😒
Henry Cavill is better.
He cried because it was his own kind that he killed and only kind left. How stupid are you though ?
neck snap infront of a child is not the same as freezing the baddies, no proof the baddies died here, they're biology is not the same as humans, henry could've knocked zod out, his arrogance got thousands killed in "man of steal" punching baddies through every building possible, reeve left the fight to protect everyone even if he looked like a coward, a TRUE hero, also here reeve was punished throwing away his hertiage as he lost his powers, in man of steel he didn't give a sh!t about his own race "krypton had its chance" yells cavill
@@STOP_FAKENEWSIf you say Superman is arrogant for doing that in the middle of the city so is the Avengers in New York. It was an inevitable event, people died and they need to accept that they can't save everyone.
Superman didn't kill Zod in the Donner cut, and I noticed that this scene conveniently doesn't show the part where Superman reversed time and sent the Kryptonians back to the phantom zone.
This is muh Superman! Just look at him sadistically crushing a defenseless Zod's hand with a SMILE!
Funny
0:58 that scene brought me happiness as a kid ☺️
Superman not only got strength and speed. He's super smart too!
Ah Superman II, the Whedon vs Snyder of my parents’ grneration. Supes kills in the theatrical because Joss Lester gave no fucks about the mythos. Zack Donner gave us s much more emotional and sad climax, with Supes destroying his Fortress now that Jor-El is gone forever and Lex (and the Arctic Police!) know it’s locstion. Plus Supes initially leaving Lois’s memory intact to trust her with his secrets but never being able to be together again. A victory that came with some heavy costs.
There is a deleted scene where the police comes and gets Luthor, always wondered why they cut because before i saw that scene i thought he killed him
My favorite Super Men - TV Christopher Reeves , Movie- Christopher Reeve !! R.I.P to both Supermen !!
Back in the 80’s a bad guy dying was not a big deal. Now we’re are sensitive.
Ursa (Faora) is hot here!
Rip both of them. 🙏😪
Superman knows what he’s been planning.
Still think this version of superman is the best💖👍👍🎉🎉
I never took this as Zod dying when I first saw it, and still don't. We don't even know what the depowered Kryptonians landed on after their fall.
He took the battle away from the city to protect the public. He realized that he could not defeat them will their powers. He came up with a plan to take away their powers. He knew Lex will betray him and he pretended to lose his powers. He used his mind to outthink them.
The screams are the best 😂 I loved this as a kid.
This was a classic bit of the film,I have seen every movie ,no one can top mr reeve,well done Louis ❤
1:48 Lois! I can't believe you murdered....Ohhh Youuuu!
I love Lois !
Superman didn't destroy the Fortress of Solitude. It was seen again in Superman 4:The Quest For Peace.
In Superman 5 he falls off a horse and flies around in a wheelchair.
azure rainbow do you realise how insulting that actually is to Christopher Reeve??
SuperMonkey pathetic
Yeah he had to destroy it because to many people knew were he lived . Im sure thats why he made another one in a diffrent location
@@supermonkey5818 listen, superman returns follows up the Donner cut and the original, all the others three movies are ignored
What a badass. No one will come close to Christopher.. the way he portrayed goofy nice guy Clark and then just magically transformed into Superman mode. It-He truly was mesmerizing.
One of my favorite movies.
Such a feel good moment. That's all.
1:47,simply hilarious-Lois(as she turns to Non, who's captured her):"Hey,you know something? You're a real pain in the neck!" and with that, belts her and that's the end of her. I've always remembered that part the most,just hilarious!
She turns to Ursa. Ursa is the woman.
the Krypton evil girl was so beautiful
Just for the record, they were completely defenseless and could do no further harm.
Kneel.
General Zod
NEVER
You Are JB
Zod for president
Never
Imagine if the Kryptonian de-powerer thing was actually fatal to regular humans and he didn't know...
Skippy the Magnificent it uses red sunlight which doesnt effect humans
his father would've told him....
That super convincing wire work though...
Wow I love this!
0:40 Zod: Take my hand and swear eternal loyalty to Zod....
Superman: Sure, how do you like it? Broken in 20 places? *Crushes his hand*
Zod:🤤😨
Superman finally gets his lips wet 😂
Actually, if you look at the scene, Superman and Lois are hugging by the ocean (filled with icebergs), so it is possible (in a comic book world) that Zod and friends slid down the ice wall and into the ocean where they froze, like Captain America.
Flashback FM, Do you think you can upload scenes of Superman II (1980) The Theatrical Cut