Cinematic Mode vs Cinema Camera INSANE RESULTS!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ม.ค. 2023
- How often do you shoot in cinematic mode???
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Love how straight to the point this video was 🙌🏼
I was just searching for this comparison video yesterday! Thanks for making this
That’s a tremendous amount of work, thanks so much for the effort!
Perhaps for the comparison to be more close, you should use nd filters for the iPhone to get the footage more similar, and maybe some color grading on the iPhone to match the Sony (: fun comparison overall! Can't wait to see more!
Mostly the raw footage had higher dynamic range in iPhone and using nd filters would've increased the difference even further. but yeah colour correcting to match the footages would've been nice but again it's the raw comparison that you get straight out of your camera 📷
Yes! and maybe the cinebloom filter
Thanks a lot, You're made actual video, that was very perfect example & discussion.
Thank you sir ❤
Great test! Thank you!
Great review 💪🏻 nice mood
There's a big diference .
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Agreed😂
Not even close
Of course. But, you can take the almost dslr quality footage with device in your pocket.
@H M didn’t you ever hear something about colorgrading? To be honest, iPhone wins only in terms of size, but in some kind of situations 14pro is more than enough for taking cinematic footage. I choose iPhone for mobility.
We take the FX3 and FX30 everywhere we go for on-location shooting here at the office. Sony knocked it out of the park with these two bodies and iterations. (Plus we didn't have to sell our old APS-C lenses which was a perk and a half haha).
One downside to the iPhone... It has to use Moment Anamorphic Lens and not the all-new BIG BOY Anamorphic 😍😍
Should have used an ND on that iphone, it looks so much diff cause of the high shutter. Curious to see how close it would be if they were both ND'd
the details and edge detection would still look like shit anyway. It's passable on phone screen only.
@@liuliukiu Yeah because it use cinematic mode which artificially blur but if it use tele lens it will have a better bokeh and nd filter for motion blur.
NICE VIDEO EXPLAINATION
Its getting closer!
The iPhone quality is now really getting good enough to where its light and convenient, easy to use and the quality will not degrade your ability to tell the story.
FX3 is way better but you have to have more time, money and put in way more effort to tell that story with it. No doubt it will look better, but will the story itself be better? I dunno anymore, its getting good enough for more and more people.
Imagine Apple investing in a bigger, better sensor using their camera technology now in a modular boxed-style cinema camera system. I would keep an eye out if they ever did that.
The Fx3 footage makes me happy
For daily vlogging scenes without complex objects like long hair or flowers or trees, cinematic mode is good enough.
I can't get past how sharp and overly aggressive the shadow recovery going on from the iPhone.
Are you guys gonna make a case for the s23 line that would be nice
excuse the question but why is there no ND filter on the iphone for fair companion ? 😅
Nice. .
from this video I was just convinced that a full-frame camera is a head above even the best shooting phone
iPhone nearly always turns everything too bright. Especially with the new HDR video. The HDR crazy blue skies vs Sony’s nearly blown out white skies should also be a conversation. Pro cinema footage is usually shot in a Log or Raw format and carefully graded per shot. Is this straight out of camera Cinetone? I would’ve kept a hint of blue skies in the Sony footage too.
tagging to not forget
very good video
Hey team I am using moment app from past 1.5 year and it's great, just wanted to point out a problem which is that my videos are coming out unstable from my iphone 13 pro even the stabilization option is on in the settings and when I am shooting from native app it's just working fine as it should ! Please suggest something or roll out an update regarding this ! Hope you guys revert! ❤️
Sometimes i feel like Moment gave up on their app a long time ago
If you upload things on TikTok or Instagram, it doesn't matter. Both will give you very good quality.
Somewhere - price needs to be part of the calculation… As good as cinematic mode is (and it’s pretty damn good) it’s a feature on a phone - not a stand alone camera. If you price out the iPhone’s camera modules + programming - it’s nothing like the cost of a high end Sony cinema camera… the fact that this is a serious topic speaks well of the iPhone’s cinematic mode.
Pretty interesting
Colour profiles the biggest difference but for a phone its so impressive.
Did you do any post color grading?
What about using ND filter for 24p motion blur? Cinematic @ 24p means motion blur. This is a must. I hope Apple brings a built in ND filter!
Considering the size difference between the two device, iPhone is truly amazing!
What lens are you using ?
I have the Fx6 for nearly two years and now I have the iPhone 14 pro max too 😅 it is nice to have a small cam for holidays but I think the FX6 is a cam beast and the iPhone is cool but it is still a iPhone 😂
Coi tới coi lui chỉ có cam ip là t ưng nhất >
Cannot deny that the difference is big, so big tbh, but its big because the sony fx3 is phenomenal and the iphones still great. Cmon iphone ur killing it
Care to mention price in the video? How much was the FX3 rig? $10k?
Will there be any phone case for galaxy s22 ultra?
Hiii bro .. When update firmware or new fitur for moment apps🥹
Regardless of the quality of the bokeh, iPhone video still just looks like phone video. I think it's mainly because the image is too sharp and it makes t quite ugly. The image from the cinema camera has a much softer character. If they could fix this, I think the iphone shots would be much nicer.
Would you recommend the FX3 or A7SIII? I'm considering switching to Sony and can't decide! Also, do you have links to all of the Sony gear you all use?
Tag me when he answers😌🙈
if you want professional filmmaking and videography buy Fx3, if videography(no filmmaking) and professional photography buy A7SIII or A7S4
FX3 has a body style and cooling abilities much more tailored to video and filmmaking, plus the top handle with XLR ports for pro audio is clutch as well. I'd say get FX3 if you plan on shooting mostly video, but if you equally do video and stills, or more stills, go A7Siii. FX3 is vastly better though if you mostly want a video camera. I think the one potential better video feature the A7Siii has is the electronic viewfinder. Some people really want that for videography and they removed it for the FX3 for some reason.
Wow Sony 🤩
Y’all are in Oceanside?
A few edits on the 14 pro and it should look similar
I agree with what you said; "cinematic" does not just mean "bokeh." It's the whole package. Apple shouldn't misuse this word. They have made it so hard for me to look for "iPhone cinematic videos" since this mode was introduced.
They should just call it the "bokeh mode."
Do the Vivo V90 Pro!
Sorry sir, it's not clashing at all because there are huge differences between two
The processing in the phone to compensate for the lack of sensor and lens size is what really shows. Phone cameras are amazing, but only because of software. You can't beat physics. FX3 is a clear winner here.
Not a test just iphone praise.
I would say a TH-cam channel with great content and good editing. An iPhone is deff enough.
Why do videos recorded from a phone, no matter how high the resolution, have this over-sharpening effect? Normally I try in post-production to eliminate these effects by lowering the sharpness or noise or adding a smoothing filter or something like that but I don't know why that happens. Does it have to do with the size of the lens?
Compensate for small sensor. To create detail that isn’t there in the first place.
are you from kansas city!?
S23 ULTRA better than VIVO X90 Pro Plus for camera and overall?
Cam era
If the the iPhone had proper shutter, it would be fine lmao
U should mention lens
N low light test
120 fps
Vs i phone 4k 60
Is he using the FX3 here?
This video is very informative and has lot of quality. But the cinematic mode of the 14 is far better than the 13 now Imagine the 15. Apple will get there with the focus racking but maybe in iphone 17
idk but apple annaounce that this years iphone will be the last
View this on a large screen. Huge difference.
Think you should have done it without the ND filter on the Sony
Colorgrsde it and add small blur to whole picture and halfway there
filter on the cinema camera vs no filter on the iphone seems legit 🤦♂
LOL
Rec709
yes a filter was definitely the deciding factor here/s 💀
@@drusticc5667 A company who creates content for a living to pedal their products should know better. Its not apples to apples but should as near as possible not just this vs that 🤡
@@wrighty338 cinema cameras are very dull by default so it wouldn’t be a very great comparison without colour correction anyways.. iphone has internal processing automatically
Sony Xperia 1 IV Cinematic mode vs iPhone 14 Cinematic mode. When?
What soundtrack was used in 0:40?
He makes great points people but, when you are learning any camera professionally, you are taught in *MANUAL MODE* and not auto settings.
These videos are great that TH-camrs put out but they *always* leave out that *manual mode* is the main factor to being successful and not auto.
Cinematic = Calculated.
Should have shot it on a S23 ultra. Full controle of white balance and shutter speed
İphone 14 so good👍🏻
ND filter on one but not the other?
I think it’s been mentioned that it’s not fair you did not put an ND filter on the iPhone for motion blur. 🧐
you'd need a way to control the shutter speed for that to matter.
As new user on Iphone pro max 14 i am so happy what it can deliver on the photo and video quality for the money. As you said on pro you can spend whatever money. Actually i was watching team with 200.000 Eur camera that was heavy;)
Ok. Honest thoughts?
FX 3 Is Love 💕
Huge difference but apple will get there
I hope that Iphone 15 will have significantly bigger lenses, less to no more lens flare and the super zoom lens. That would be a beast!
Good video and photo on iPhone 14 pro but over colorful make is look flat and fake special on sky.
Big difference, tentu saja
It's a human who invented the phone, speaks a lot. :)
You should do samsungs s23 ultra next.
Cant you see this is an apple ad?
Global shutter, anamorphic, Helios, dynamic range, highlight rolloff = cinematic. 😅
Which is compare ? the video cannot compare in the first looking in your footage.
the motion blur is too many diffence when the object moving and repeat.
Don't get me wrong, the iPhone's footage is strong for social content perfectly adequate - but the hdr processing throws off the cinematic look, no matter what ND-Filter or color grading you use. It is a big give away that when people shoot iPhone footage you know it's an iPhone. Amazing technology tho, but no where near a real cinema setup.
No where near? I think the demos here and elsewhere are saying the exact opposite, iPhones are getting really close. With the right setting, fllters and grading - look out Sony, Canon, etc.
And 24fps?
the problem with the iphone is the amount of sharpening which cant be turned off. Makes it look cheap in my opinion..
It drives me nuts when I’m out with my Arri rig and people say “my (insert phone model) is probably better than that.” Amazing how much these brands have brainwashed people. The ignorance is also mind blowing. Phones are good for some things and social media, but NOTHING compared to a full rig. A gear build is also a tool specific to what you need of it.
I’ll take true optics over AI any day.
An iPhone 14 Pro will be " NOTHING compared to a full rig' only if used as it was in this ill designed review.
Ignore the mediocre cinematic mode, add a Beastgrip 1.7 tele lens, Freewell VND filter and Cinema P3 cam app to a 14 Pro and you can shoot images that most people, including seasoned professionals, will not be able to distinguish from images shot with a Sony FX 3 unless they watch those images on a TV set. But more and more people are watching videos and films on their phones and computers.
Digital sharpening in contrasty situations (HDR is on?) is really bad. 😯
exactly why I dont like videos from my iphone I always add sharpening in post and the fact it can not be turned off when recording is a deal breaker
YA IDIOT KNOW NOTHING ABOUT " What's The Low Pass Filter and What's for ❓ and WHY YA NEED SHARPENING FUNCTION ON EVERY NLE EDITOR SUCH AS Premier Pro, FCPX & DaVinci ❓❓❓❓❓❓❓❓" ❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩
More than ９０% of Dedicated DSLR/Mirrorless Cameras Have Got Low Pass Filter in 'em.
And Only One of Rare Exceptions that Has " Low Pass-Less Filter " in It is Nikon's Flagship Z９ of Which Image is Far Close to i-Phone that YA IDIOTS ARE ALL AMAZED AT ITS CRISP & SHARP IMAGE MORON ❕❕❕❕❕❕❕❕❕❕❕❕❕❕❕❕😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😱🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👻👻👻🤪🤪🤪
Thank you for saying that comparable is pretty dangerous, smartphone is threating real camera's not because it is better but because the untrained eye which is 98% may think it is same, or holds up
Достойно для телефона который в 3 раза дешевле чем Sony FX3
For the money, there’s absolutely zero comparison
Which phone is better than short film ???
Why not put a lens on the iPhone then compare
Iphone is a pro câmera killer.
Well it's not even close 😅
Ip 14 turned you into Donald trump with that orange skin
This review about how close an iPhone 14 Pro is getting to a real cinema camera makes no sense to me. Why compare a professional, fully rigged Sony camera with an iPhone 14 Pro on automatic white balance and using the mediocre, amateurish Cinematic mode ?
Ignore the third class cinematic mode, add a Beastgrip 1.7 tele lens and/or a Freewell VND filter plus Cinema P3 cam app to a 14 Pro and you can shoot images that most people, including seasoned professionals, will not be able to distinguish from images shot with a Sony FX 3 unless they watch those images on a TV set. But more and more people are watching videos and films on their phones and computers.
I worked with Sony ENG cameras for 20 years or so. Today, I would choose an iPhone 14 Pro over a Sony FX 3 ten times out of ten.
Amazing production! Sony is better imo
Worst of all, was the FX3 flat? If so, that's not how that footage was meant to be seen. This reviewer didn't even bother to disclose this. He was too busy just mugging for the camera.
It all just stinks. Philip "I beat women" Bloom did this for a living.
I think a lot of these features are better executed on the Xperia lineup - especially with the new Xperia 1 V - offering focus peaking and rack focus in video. Not to mention S-Cinetone for that cinematic look, there are also the looks from the Alpha line including VV, FL etc that can match different scenes and looks for a composition.
The only people who will truly notice a difference on social are the minority of pixel peepers. An iPhone with good filters, lenses, and person holding it is more than enough for 90% of what you’d ever wanna film. Where do phones truly hail in comparison? Lowlight and focal length. But even the focal length can be tweaked with a Beastgrip DOF adapter. Let the FEW professionals use what they need to use and let the VAST MAJORITY of people enjoy the killer quality of an iPhone. People need to understand the difference in niche when it comes to filming something. Some people want it simple while others wanna do all the twists and twirls and annoying ramps/ transitions with a $5000 camera.
They want to justify their superior $25,000 Red camera. And they HATE what iPhones are doing.
@@rockrecordreport7136 absolutely. I’d be mad af too if I spent a ton on gear just to have some average Joe get highly acceptable results with his stupid phone🤣
The normal mode do better bro
That’s actually not even close
Phone software still can't beat the pro camera
the color science of sony is what really makes me love sony cameras. if only iphones have good color science, i would say its fine for specific shots
THATS WHY , IS NOT worth buying the fx3
interesting.. well there is price tho: the iPhone is 3 or 4 times cheaper than the Sony
I don’t know, but the iPhone looks little bit over processed 😢
YA Need to Learn " What's The Low Pass Filter & What's for ❓ And WHY YA NEED SHARPENING FUNCTION ON EVERY NLE EDITOR Such As Premier Pro, FCPX and DaVinci ❓❓❓❓❓❓❓❓ "
i-Phone is Much Close to WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) Shooting.