[SS][T-122] Crazy, Chaotic Train Operations between Two Railroads (Summer Special 2019) | Trains 21
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- June 11, 2019 was just another (overcast and) over crazy day of operations in Northeastern Pennsylvania.. Join us we hop from spot-to-spot taking in all of the crazy action.. Summer railfanning at its best, and its zaniest....
CORRECTION:
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At 7:56 I called the NS southbound 37T.. It is Train 36T. Ugh!! I read it wrong from the script....
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TRAINS IN THIS VIDEO:
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NS 36T
RBMN PIFF
NS 11Z
NS K81
RBMN PISB
RBMN YJPI
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AC thank you for all the history you include in your videos, ❤️ all your knowledge and wisdom, the commintary you include is worth the watching 👍👍👍
It all makes sense after you explained it. That's why I love your narration of your videos. I also like the history lessons along the way. Excellent video as usual AC.
Thanks Hans.. You're fortunate to have hands-on knowledge and experience.
Great video! Your commentary on the different trains and history behind the lines is like watching one of those old video complications/documentaries of different railroads in 50s-90s! I also like how 3056’s RS-5T-RRO’s 25 bell still has some life in it to give it the sound it had before whatever happened to it.
Thanks Jon.. Thanks for watching.
29:23 The RBMN power move is complete and ready to leave the yard with 35 engines from every different railroad, including RBMN, BNSF, UP, Ferromex, NS, SOU, N&W, PRR, BCOL, CN, CP, CSX, GECX, RJ Corman, PRLX, EMDX, ATSF and SP. The power move on the RBMN out of Pittston is symboled PIEN (Pittston to Enola Yard Power Move). PIEN runs out of Pittston Yard and runs along the NS Sunbury Line to the Buffalo Line alongside the Susquehanna River and leaves the Buffalo Line at Harrisburg where the PIEN train gets a new crew before taking the 35-unit power move into Enola Yard to pickup an empty rock train, bring it out of Enola Yard, uncouple at Harrisburg, run around the train, couple onto the tail end and then leave Harrisburg Yard as NS 41C (empty rock train from Harrisburg to Chicago) with the usual 35-engine lashup consisting of American, Canadian, Mexican and lease locomotives. This new train symbol, NS 41C, will be added to the NS Pittsburgh Line in June of 2021. Originating as RBMN train PIEN out of Pittston Yard with 35 engines to Enola Yard, the train will make his way over the Sunbury and Buffalo Lines before crossing Rockville Bridge at Marysville, PA into Enola Yard where it will pickup an empty rock train and send it to Harrisburg as NS J22, uncouple at Harrisburg Yard, run around the train and bring the train from Harrisburg Yard to Chicago, Illinois. In the summer of 2021, this is the new NS symbol added to the US, being NS 41C. 41C's usual power is 35 engines, same as the PIEN train. 41C's power on the front contains American, Mexican, Canadian and leaser power, making this 35-unit consist an epic one for this empty NS 41C rock train that will be made in June of 2021. So Trains21, can you record a video of testing the new symbols of RBMN PIEN, NS J22, and NS 41C? PIEN is a Pittston to Enola power move to get a rock train and take it out of the yard before becoming NS J22, a yard job to run around the train at Harrisburg, and later NS 41C to Chicago, Illinois from Harrisburg Yard. How’s that?
22:50 Now calm down! The ex-Conrail C40-8Ws are next on the Norfolk Southern Chopping Block subdivision.
22:51
I really love the little side comments and factoids of your videos. The commentary about NS 8000 was really interesting.
Thanks Daniel.. Most of my videos have something on that order but sometimes I make silent movies :-)
The siding can't take the weight of a six axle loco...very interesting info at 15:30...thanks. BTW, opportunities to catch some signal drops got lost. I love seeing signals drop as it adds realism and detail to the video.
Me too, but the PIFF train would've blocked the signal from where we were standing.
Thanks again for showing me around your area AC! Great job with the video, your knowledge really adds another dimension. I finished editing my video this morning, it should be up this evening.
Thanks JC.. I enjoyed it as well, get in all you can, the rail-pocalypse may be near. :-(
Excellent video, AC. I will have to watch this again. Info overload. LOL. Thanks for sharing the knowledge. - Drew
Thanks Drew.. You do that!! haha
Nice to see those old gons being used instead of rusting away
Excellent! I love all the action at Taylor! Heck, I love the whole thing!
Thanks Bethany.. Thanks much for watching!
Thanks to the beauty of M.U., both old and new can pull for you! 😎
That's right!
Be fun to video the train that goes up through Ithaca to the salt mines...:)
Yes it would be.
Thanks for another great video!
Rocky the Squirrel @ 5:15.....chilling on the track
That's right!
Great Video!! I'll be sure to catch up on your stuff when I get home from my railfan trip...
Don't stress it.. There's only so much you can do.. Have fun down south.
14:17 14:14 Rust on the rails!
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31:51 Right Track: Lackawanna Railroad
Left Track: Lehigh Valley Mountain Cutoff Line
Fantastic video keep up the great work
Thanks for watching Wayne..
I like the two camera split screen, great video
Thanks Michael.. I plan on doing it a lot more in my videos.
Another A1 video !!!!!!! Keep them coming
Thanks Ken.. Glad to see you're still hanging out.
you always make great videos
Thanks for watching.
AC, you are correct. The dash 8's are on their last runs on NS. They are slated for retirement I believe by year's end, if not sooner. They may go back to GE to either become leasers to shortline roads, or a otherwise. This is what I'm hearing in terms of their fate.
I thought NS was rebuilding them, to the
Dash 8.5s or whatever they are called
@@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 nope. That idea was scrapped. That was only a handful of C40-8's not the W's. They can't be rebuilt to AC standards, either. AC motors don't fit the GSC trucks.
Matthew Arentzen I’d just put some AC compatible trucks on them then
@@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 they are different length.
Matthew Arentzen put the gp38ac trucks on it and turn them into B40-8CWACs, that would make for a very interesting locomotive
Awesome video!
Thanks Santa Fe!
I'm jealous, wish I there chasing trains with you guys. You have a ton of eastern railroad knowledge trapped in yo brain, which also makes me jealous, lol. And finally NS must be awful short of 4-axle power to be using those big techno toasters as local switching power. Keep those videos coming.
Thanks John.. The local/yard switchers use whatever power comes down on that day's H97 Binghamton/Taylor Turn which is always 2 or 3 road diesels.. The only 4-axle power I've ever seen working on this line (During NS' ownership) is a GP40-2 working a work train.. Canadian Pacific, on the other had did have GP38-2s working local service.. BTW, my email address is 'menudomail2014@gmail.com'. Also, doesn't look like I'll make out your way this summer :-( Can't get the money together.. I will def make it next year though.
great video
Thanks Sean.. I knew you'd love the switching action.
So why doesn't NS use some GP38s or something of that type, instead of those massive road engines for switching. Surely they must have a couple of 4-axle anythings laying around in some yard somewhere?
Jim Barrie - if they go old school four axle I love the gp30 but I know NS has lots of sw1500’s made for yard switching
The local/yard switchers use whatever power comes down on that day's H97 Binghamton/Taylor Turn which is always 2 or 3 road diesels.. The only 4-axle power I've ever seen working on this line (During NS' ownership) is a GP40-2 working a work train.. Canadian Pacific, on the other had did have GP38-2s working local service.. BTW, my email address is 'menudomail2014@gmail.com'. Also, doesn't look like I'll make out your way this summer :-( Can't get the money together.. I will def make it next year though.
Have you ever considered doing a documentary DVD of a railroad history or a bunch of then and how they formed and interconnected? You're very knowledgeable and I would buy a copy if you made them.
It's funny that you asked that as I have something just like that on the way.. I'll do a short video explaining it within the week.. Thanks for your interest.
You pronounce your words very well. You have a very educational oral about you. I can almost compare you to the narrator of forensic Files. Highly educational material
AC, another great and very informative video. I especially liked the scenes around Avoca, Dupont, Pittson, Old Forge that have not had much previous coverage. Question: What happened to all those spacer gons on K81 as they were not there on return to Taylor?
They were MOW cars and probably stayed there in Yatesville/Laflin as that's where the work train is currently stationed.
AC: It doesn't appear you are surprised by the idea, that there are no longer any decision makers on the 'front lines, and in the trenches. Every decision has to be authorized by someone in the castle of the cloud.
That is an accurate observation in every way.. Thanks for chiming in.
23:25 And an even older picture.
Photo by Fuccaino
23:24
My dose of rail fan time...and I don't even have to bend the speed limit and my welcome in town! AND learned stuff. How can you beat that? ( Thank you yet again ) ( Some day I hope you can catch the action when NYSW switches in Cortland, would be a similar panic I think )
Thanks Commander.. I caught a quartet of NYSW and CSX SD40s up there in Cortland back in 2008 but that's the most of it.. I'm sure I will prob next year.. Maybe even this year.
Ah so that’s why the NS ES44ACs have the mount for nose lights it’s all makes sense now, strange that they never covered those properly
Yep, that's why
Nice catches Trains 21! I wish I can catch this much day time action. Also if I can find a way to contact you I know a neat spot in Wilkes-Barre not to many people know is there.
Question seem's like those old EMD two strokes are more common than similar generation four strokes from GE. Is that real of just regional? Follow on..it is easier to maintain the obsolete two strokes and maybe cheaper as well? AND with those older SD's front and rear, are they coordinated simply with two crews and a radio? Who controls the air brakes? At what point did they start having more sophisticated controls where one crew can control multiple units dispersed as typical out west or are they also simply two crews and a radio?
The EMDs just perform better than the old GE’s which is sad for me a GE fan, a lot of the older GE’s are working south of the border, but also GE made their own older equipment obsolete as they developed newer models, EMD however couldn’t keep up with the new development and had issues in their higher horsepower models which hurt the company, but EMD has held the 4 axle market for 50 years and hasn’t built new 4 axles in almost 30 years, shows how good their 4 axle product is
I think Logan explained it just right.
Hi thank you for all your videos ine qurstion were the reading northern ns gp38s rebuilt with admiral cabs?
Is it true that the crews can manually control the crossing gates from the locomotives. Watching K81 moving that close to the signal but not tripping it.
Some specialized locomotives may have controls to control gates but it's not the norm.. The gates work automatically by the presence of a train and/or maybe an operator in a bldg somewhere.
Trains21 Thank you got the answer.
can you do a video sometime about how it is that you can tell which train is which (identifying characteristics)? like how do tell train 21G from 21T or any other NS Train for that matter?
I'll certainly give that some thought.. Thanks for the suggestion.
I may have asked you before, forgive me, but do the letter/number sets on NS trains have any meaning? BNSF trains have Z, Q, and S designations
Z- high priority intermodal
Q- international containers
S- domestic containers
Yes and No.. It's a little tough to explain depending on where the letter falls in the train symbol.. For example Train i5Z as an Extra 25Z intermodal out of E-Rail in New Jersey.. 25Z is the regular intermodal, the Z designates it as not being the 25Q Atlanta to Memphis (or maybe Kansas City).. If that makes sense.
What railroad has the reporting Mark TR? I can't seem to find it listed anywhere
Tomahawk Railway
It should be a federal crime to chop a high hood
The crews might disagree with you.. The one's around here hated them.
there's a small Penn central logo drawn on the side of 3642. pause at 16:49 and look on the white reflective tape
Somebody’s got jokes
@@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 I'm missing it. 😒 D
I don't see it. Am I looking for mating worms?
Sharp eye.. I'll have to elaborate on that in another video.
D Smith yep
@ 30:19 - Interesting string of cars pulled by the RN: a DRGW followed by a MoP. Both are box cars.
If folks get upset stuck in traffic at crossings vis-a-vis the switching maneuver, wait until precision switching dominates the railroading world. The largest investment by UP of five hundred million dollars to construct the Brazos Yard in my old stomping grounds has been put on hold. The money will be used to implement precision switching and lengthening sidings to hold longer trains.
Times have changed. In my day on the Houston & Texas Central [SP], the train crew, whether through freight or local, had a crew of 4: engineer, conductor, and 2 brakemen. That was before the introduction of radio communication for the man on the ground.
Oh and a question AC I have heard the phrase tier 4 and assume it about size of locos can you confirm and explain thanks
Tier 4 is an emission standard for diesel locomotives.. Currently it's the highest and most modern.
@@Trains21 thank you for the clarification. I drive buses and we are at euro5 for emissions not sure if they go up next time around. Will find out soon I suspect as tenders are due .
Have Ever Seem A Bear Before.
Fortunately, no.
Really sad to see those high hoods cut down
Same, but I’d rather see them being used than parked in a dead line
Not to me.. Can't see anything with them.. Crews hated them (at least up here in the north).
@@Trains21 I can imagine how bad visibility was when N&W ran LHF. I believe that SOU did it as well.
Hi AC, How be doing, keeping C-19 free I hope, whilst checking out some of your earlier Videos and I found this one what a great spot to chase Trains I like those Reading green Engines. You used to feature some drive arounds whilst chasing Trains, and I think you used to use some background Music? Did you ever use The.madpix.project.
Hello Peter, long time no hear.. I did use the MadPixProject.. Twice in fact.. But I won't be using it anymore.. Some claimed a copyright on it.
@@Trains21 Sorry to hear that, still that's how it goes. Hope you're keeping well.
In OLD FORGE on the RBMN SD40-2 EMD 3056 change horns a little bit the Horn went to HIGH and went to lowe why
Fouled horn is my guess.
Nice work AC!
I'm a fan of older locomotives like the SD40, SD45 and switchers.
Perhaps you can do a video with just that content?
Wait isn’t that section the former WB&E?
No, the WB&E ran to the W-B area.
Trains21 i forgot where yatesville was. I was thinking of the former D&H WB&E interchange point near planes in which a industry still uses a part of the former ROW as there lead and small yard
Hi, to me its odd that such heavy power is doing a switch task instead of running heavy freight hundreds of miles down track
The local/yard switchers use whatever power comes down on that day's H97 Binghamton/Taylor Turn which is always 2 or 3 road diesels.. The only 4-axle power I've ever seen working on this line (During NS' ownership) is a GP40-2 working a work train.. Canadian Pacific, on the other had did have GP38-2s working local service.. BTW, my email address is 'menudomail2014@gmail.com'. Also, doesn't look like I'll make out your way this summer :-( Can't get the money together.. I will def make it next year though.
What's with the squirrel sitting there at 5:20?
D Smith - it looked like one of those teenage daredevils playing chicken with the train, great catch D Smith 👍🏻
He's Rocky, out railfanning with us!
Why no ditch lights on all the time when in motion?
Charlie Rumsfeld - around where I’m from ditch lights are timed for a period of time whenever the horn is sounded, I think for extra visibility through crossings
The lights are directional on this locomotive.
Great video but why use mainline power on weight rated track it seems silly bordering on stupid to me
The local/yard switchers use whatever power comes down on that day's H97 Binghamton/Taylor Turn which is always 2 or 3 road diesels.. The only 4-axle power I've ever seen working on this line (During NS' ownership) is a GP40-2 working a work train.. Canadian Pacific, on the other had did have GP38-2s working local service.. BTW, my email address is 'menudomail2014@gmail.com'. Also, doesn't look like I'll make out your way this summer :-( Can't get the money together.. I will def make it next year though.
34:21
If the light rail can't handle the weight of six axil power why not just use lighter locos for the duty?
7686 is a es40dc
No it's not.. It's an ES44DC.. They've all been uprated to ES44s.
Ok I just red the side
And it said es40dc
@@coquitlam_railfan5686 Yeah, NS will ususally make the correction on the sides but it doesn't always.
23:19 24:44
Conductor O'Donnell, The Sad Chicken Conductor.