[GL][T-137] DC-2-AC FAMILY: SD70ACC, AC44C6M, ECOs, Gevos and the Locomotive Rebuilding Craze
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- Finally!! After sitting on my editing board for more than a year the sequel to "The History of Norfolk Southern's SD70ACU" has finally dropped..
The rebuilding craze that has swept over modern day railroading has left us all with spinning heads!! What's hear today is quickly gone tomorrow, or at least re-incarnated into something different..
With more locomotives being rebuilt than bought, it'll be interesting to see what the next few years of diesel-dom bring us....
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Thanks!
Thank you!
My two year old great grand son is sitting on my lap and sees my phone on the table. He says “PeePaw, choo choo”.
Your video just popped up in notifications so I opened it.
He smiles and sees those NS cabs sitting on the ground and says “choo choo broken”
😂😂😂😂 he’s a rail fan for sure.
Thanks for sharing 👍👍👍😎😎😎 Cary
No problem Cary.. I'm glad I could entertain the two of you!! haha
I cannot get excited about todays locomotives, at 70 years I find steam far more interesting.
Understood.
That’s completely fair and I agree to some extent. Tho, as someone who grew up around the more modern era of diesels, I still love watching them pulling thousands of tons of freight through the country
Being one of those railfans that gets bored after the power rolls by I got to say this was one of your top five videos thus far. Love it dude!!!!! Keep them coming.
Thanks John, I have a lot more of them in the works.
I see ONE sd33eco on NYSW ( One of the BEST Paint Scheme's on the rails ..if u like yellow ) come through, this is one of the best " Rail Fan Colleges" ever. Thank you for this and it's going to take several "classes" to absorb all in here.. Excellent video ( college )
Thanks Commander.. I'm glad you enjoyed it!
I love these rebuilds so much. Thanks for the video.
As a child I was on one of the last steam power coming out of regina sk. what a fire breathing monster. In 2005 I received a private tour of a brand new 4400ace, what a difference! customised interior or so it seemed, spotless quiet very impressive. Keep up the great videos informative detailed entertainment at its best.
Thanks Pete.. Those are some wonderful memories you hold.
I don't know if I can absorb all that information without going back and watching it again!!
Wow, great info with pictures and video to boot!
Thanks Cereus.. You've exposed my dirty little trick. Haha!
Not to mention A/C traction has massive amount of tractive effort, and sustained tractive effort. Dash 9 tractive effort 142k starting and 105k continuous . AC4400 ,180k starting and 145k continuous. Huge difference. SD70M is worse compared to the ACe. Great video, i really love these .
Indeed, the ACs are superior in many ways, inferior in others depending on which railroad you ask.
CSX replaced the SD50-2 with either a SD44DC or sometimes a SD44AC locomotive. That local crew is home every night.
Know that was an informative and just damn fantastic video
Thanks James.. Much appreciated
AC, I loved this one! All of your videos are great. Hey you know what? They actually bring me JOY. Thank you again for sharing all of your info and knowledge with us.
He is so well spoken and he lays everything out so it's easy to understand, and the example videos help too showing exactly what he is explaining. Love it.
Thanks Bethany.. I'm glad that you're enjoying them and just as much that you're watching them..
Thanks Tim.. I try to make my videos fun.. Admittedly, not for kids, I make my videos to be chock full of knowledge.
All great shots. Lots of interesting information. Some that I didn't know about. Always great to watch and listen. Excellent video AC. I went to Westfield twice this week. I even saw a couple of heritage units.
Nice!! I'll be checking out your vids later in the day.
Outstanding research and presentation, Thank you for sharing. TMRCI.
You're welcome.. Thank you for watching and enjoying Eric.
I'm very impressed with NS with the idea of rebuilding their locomotive fleets. the DC to AC Program is something I have been involved with. As a college student and avid railroad volunteer (mostly track work), I got inside looks at the Juniata, Roanoke, and Altoona Locomotive works, I got full details on the DC to AC program and the privilege to help build the first SD70ACC, and help rewire components on the former NS AC44C6C 8520, before it was sold.
Great video AC. Lots on information packed it there, really enjoyed it!
Thanks JC.. Still waitin' on your next railfan adventure.
@@Trains21 I have one in the pipeline from an adventure a few weeks ago, just didn't get around to editing it yet
@@FireandFilmdotcom Nice.. I'll be waiting
Good Documentary.. Your on track level shots are nice👍🏽👍🏽
Thanks Brat.. It was nice before that fence went up in 2016
Fantastic video . . . Great Information
Thanks Brian.
14:03 The #4063 was trailing in a head-on-crash at Scotland, Kentucky. It LANDED on the GE Dash 9 leading the train.
Fantastic video! Most information packed video on the American diesel locomotive scene that I have ever watched.
Also, great to hear that the SD80MAC rebuilds will retain their 20 cylinder prime movers. And re-rated at 5500bhp, no less! :cool:
Thank you very much! Unfortunately, the 80s have been sold off.
Trains21
Sold them? Well that sucks. :(
Really enjoying watching your videos!!! Very relaxing!! Keep up with good work! Cheers!!
Thanks Man.. I'll certainly try.
So much info packed into a short period of time im your videos. Awesome yet again A.C.
Thanks Canadian.. I'm glad ou liked it.
The rest of this video is a montage of locomotives old & new. Some have already disappeared and some are on the endangered list. Every new innovation is eventually replaced by a newer and better one, so shoot it today because you don't know if you're going to have it tomorrow.
-Trains21
AC this is an awesome video thank you for showing me this that's cool to see all the upgrades that the railroads are doing to these locomotives this is an awesome video do as many of these like this as you want I love studying locomotives and how they've changed thank you for all of the information I love this video AC good job peace out into the world have a great day
Thanks Austin
Awesome video! So much information here
Thanks Commander
VERY good, AC!
Thanks Jim!
I think the Tuscan stripe on the Sonic Bonnet represented the N&W stripe used on the passenger steam engines, like the 611, and the maroon used on their post-1975 and their current R&D diesels. Whereas the blue stripe for the Juniata shopped units represent Conrail, but I do see your train of thought where the blue could be N&W Pevlar blue used in their diesels and PRR Tuscan. I can make an argument either way.
Perfectly understood, and yes, that's the argument that I was making.. You bring a good alternate view to that logic.. Thank you for watching.
Got to love all the research you pass along AC! Joeoz3751
Thanks Joe.. I'm glad you notice!
This is the most informative channel ever! Thanks for your effort. So neat to learn about all the stuff we all wonder about!
Thank you.. I appreciate you watching and enjoying!
Yl
I really appreciate your choice of photography sites away from road crossings and sparing us the ding-ding-ding of the crossing bell. Also, my old train watching buddy passed away in 2002 and would have really enjoyed your knowledge of what is going on in railroading today.
Thanks for watching David and enjoying David and I'm sorry for the loss of your friend.. I wish he could've been here to enjoy them with you.
Hi Dave,I feel your pain,its the same with deer hunting pals too,unfortunately.
Very sad when you go to deer camp in the fall/winter and one or two bunks are now empty.
Great video Well done! Great ideas for modelers & Rail Fans alike.
Thanks Thomas.
Amazing amount of information. Very interesting thank you.
No problem, glad you like it.
Really impressive what they do at Juniata shops, great video too.
I love your NS videos Mr AC
Cant wait till we see some SD80ACU or whatever they end up being called
Thanks Tim..
I can't wait either.
Love the A/C Steerable trucks! Well UP doesn't have to deal with this, they have mostly AC units.
Yes.. But they still have to deal with it.
What A Good Report Thank You
Thanks Man.. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Personally I kinda like the Dash 8.5 the most with the sd70acc next
Understood
I would love to see them bring back the SD 40-2's that's my favorite locomotives
GE? Reliable? Gash 9 best locomotive of the 21st century? Hey theres a mob of angry SD40-2's that wanna have a chat
A little warning before showing us those shots of the "slaughterhouse" decapitations, or de-cab-itations!!! Please... :-)
I'll def keep that in mind!! Thanks!!
Awsome video great information. Thanks
Thanks Ed.. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
We had a local freshly painted CSX SD50-2 that ran here in SE Alabama for a few months and then it disappeared about a year ago.
9:36 that amber light just in front of the 4004 is the LSL light “limited speed locomotive” for DPU service
Awesome video, as always, AC. Have a great weekend. - Drew
Thanks Drew
9:50
BNSF made news recently when it bought back several dozen retired GP30s sold to Larry's Truck & Electric in 2011.
Why are trains so underrated.
I wish I knew.
well put together video with a boat load of information. i really enjoy watching. and maybe learning a thing or 2. the big question is will i retain any of it . lol .. nice montage at the end
Thanks Sparky!
Hi AC....Im new to your channel.
Superb videos,the best I've seen,and some of my "train crew" here in Bucks County,Pa have had their train pictures published in that Railroaded magazine.
To make your videos even more meaningful for me,I own my own food brokerage business.
I represent some 7 food companies like cheese,bakery,turkey,chicken,manufacturers.
My territory is Pennsylvania out to Pittsburgh,all of NJ,Md,MD, and VA.
As I call on Weis in Sunbury,Giant in Carlisle,Gerritys in Scranton/WilkesBarre,Sheetz in Altoona,Turkey Hill in Lancaster
.....I know the Rt 11/15 route,Enola yards,Taylor yard,the Curve,Bound Brook,Allentown yards.....all the great Pa train viewing locations.
After my sales calls in those areas I pull over and wait for the freight.
Funny,as a young boy into N,HO,O trains,I hated any road with black or grey locomotives.
I liked SF, NP,SP,IC,MR,UP, and others.
Now.....I like NS a lot.
I like their stock price too....kinda shows what they are doing us on "the right track" so to speak.
In taking many,many train photos over so many years,I ceased taking CSX's dirty,filthy,rusted beer can engines that all looked like they rolled down a ravine.
IMO 7 out of 10 CSX engines are horribly unkempt.
Try using some Palmolive on your equipment once in awhile.
🤣😂😅😆😁😳
But seriously,your presentation is superb,your info is very interesting,
the breadth and width of the engine
types shown is incredible and as I said .....it hits home with me because I've driven these roads by trackside.
Many good memories.
But,honestly,like all my fellow train dudes I miss the Pennsy,the Reading,the Lehigh Valley,the NYC,the Erie Lackawanna, the D&H.
Here in Bucks,we do get some CP Dash 9s,CP ES4400s,BNSF of the same when the Bakken oil fields trains come through Penndel and Langhorne bound for the refineries.
I must put my two cents in for NS again.
Being Im in food marketing, a great idea by NS capturing all the old roads that amalgamated into the NS
with the Heritage locomotives.
Just wish they could paint more of our fallen flags and run those engines in the territories they once tracked.
Merry Christmas to you and all!!!
🕯➕🕯
29:47 29:48
Both DCs are going AC.
Hey AC, with the two derailments at Horseshoe Curve, could you do a history of accidents on the Sunbury and Buffalo lines?
Would love to but I don't the history of either.
Lots of excellent
Thanks Railyard
I own those 45 Roanoke rebuilds even 4003, 4045, 4047, & 4118 with and without the primer cab. 4003 has the Red Mane cab.
We lost the real sounds of these diesel locomotives when we lost the SD-40-2..These newer versions of the locomotives are right on top of you sometimes before you can hear them..
The class A CSX railway(single track) runs just 150 feet behind my back porch.
27:42 Taking the geeps in trade in
3 years later, SD80MACS are no longer in service
Rip
I love BNSF RAILWAY trains 21 thank you💗💗💗👍👍👍
Thank you too!
Dang a 432lb locomotive would be a revolution! 11:26
You out did yourself this time. Wow awesome vid. So much info.
Anybody know why AC traction motors sound different on the GE's? Why are they noticably different sounding than a DASH-9???!!
Thanks Marine.. I don't know but I thank you for watching.
I think because AC's just had different equipment. If you're comparing a Dash 9 to something like an AC44 or a GEVO, then yeah AC's will sound much different because...different current. I don't know too much about them in motion, but I know when starting that AC traction motors have a bit of a crescendo in scale or pitch. Musically speaking I'd say it's more noticeable with AC-traction electric locomotives, but it's still noticeable enough on diesels
Russell Streak -cool thanks!
Neat 👍
Thanks
Thanks Again, great information.
No problem.
Very Nice Stuff ! 21
I cant believe ns rebuilding and cp it is crazy I wonder Union Pacific
Red is a Lease. Dunno why the yellow one was not mentioned
I'm doing a similar rebuild program with SD40‐3 AC44C6M SD70ACC and AC4400CWMs.
i can tell by the shape itself
Great informative video.
Glad you enjoyed it!
great vid mate
They should've turned 1 into a high hood
From what I’ve heard, NS canceled the SD80ACU program
Thanks, I didn't realize that
Could you remind me of what that would've entailed? Considering NS...ditched all of them, I just wanna think of what could've/should've been
Very Nice video! Definitely a lot learned from this one. I had a question for you. What editing software do you use to make these videos. And where do you get your background music from. Thanks!
I use Adobe Premiere. I get my music from many sources online. Some include the You Tube audio library and a lot from Kevin MacLeod. But there are many other sources. Too many to name.
@@Trains21 Thank you very much for the reply!
AC... i was hoping you would also inclued NS8520 AC44C6CF in the video since that was rebuild from a Dash9... and NS8520 is back service but has to return to the WNYP RR.... question why does that AC44C6CF have to be tested on the WNYP RR???
I wish I had too.. I forgot about that one.. I don't know why they send them the Buffalo Line.
15:12 15:14 The M is stead to stend for... Maudifid
Honestly with all these new fancy type of engines like ACC46M's and SD40-3's and what not makes my head spin in confusion. I have a feeling once the Eco friendly craze dies out in a year or two a lot of these rebuilt engines are going to start disappearing like the GEVO's that were once the "new eco future" did. I'm just used to knowing engines like SD40-2's, GP38-2's and SD60M's and Dash-9's and what have you and since many of my local rail line subdivisions still use plenty of those I have a feeling those are going to outlast the eco craze
You're probably right.
Since when did GEVOs disappear? And nonroad emissions requirements aren’t a “new eco feature” that disappeared...
Yeah, because designing engines to operate at maximum efficiency is just the “new eco future”?
@@ironmatic1 that was an old comment mate I know that most engines today are hybrids
@@gordtvradio3465 that was an old comment I made mate. I don't really agree with the comment I made back then.
10:03 GP39-3s
Is this stock footage from a few months ago?
Long live the geep
That's right
*How will this benifit the bin-sef?* lol. 2:07
Compare to Ac44c6m, the look just like C40-8w, even though there kind like twins.
I hope they dont turn all of the dash 9s into ac44c6ms. The dash 9 is my all time favorite locomotive
A little more than half from what I've read.
This modification is very expensive.. 3-phase inverters are very expensive . The dash-9's are very solid freight locos and are going nowhere fast. They will be around.
AC; I hope you and your family had a wonderful. Christ ma's.
Nice video! It is good that your name is AC, not DC.
That's right!
21:09 is an SD60MAC
like your spot you video at
And SD70ACu and SD80MAC.
And SD33ECO GP20C-ECO SD40E3 GP33ECO.
BNSF is well behind NS in converting DC to AC
It’s pronounced Buhnseph
In numbers, sure, but it was their AC44C4M that prompted NS to folow suit.
14:47 CPs
19:06 where was this photo taken?
Inside Norfolk Southern's Exhibition Car.
What is Pression schedule railroading??
PSR is where they basically put trains together to reduce train traffic. And im almost positive they are *GETTING RID OF COAL TRAINS!*. So it is kinda bad for a railfan like me and every other railfan out there. so there you go. PSR.
It’s basically a max profits program. Eliminate as many employees and machines as possible.
What is the name of this beautiful steel guitar song please?
Must get this somehow.
22:20
when did steamtown have all the new loco's in there? and are they going to do it again . ?
It was Railfest 2015.. I don't know, I hope so.
@@Trains21 are you going to railfest again this year.. this weekend ?
@@sparky107107 Maybe.. I don't know for certain.
you know GEVOS are toaster with bogies right.
That's certainly one way to look at them!
What happened to the red one and the yellow one .
Any chance you could do a video of the collapse of the Penn Central?
We all know the skeleton tale but not the track n roadies tale.
24:17 NS SD70ACCs
What's up AC can you do me a favor I have a question on the timestamp of 4.07 there is a Canadian Pacific General Electric it looks like a - 9 with these different looking trucks they're not the high adhesion trucks I've also in the rail fan terminology they call them rollerblades this Canadian Pacific doesn't have those trucks that has a different looking truck with like these torsion bars on the side what kind of truck is that I've seen them on other locomotives before that are General Electric I just don't know what it's called just curious peace out have a great day
If you are talking about 8720, that's an ES44AC, built 2005. If you are talking about 9837, that's an AC44CW, built in 2004. The ES44AC has GE's self-steering trucks but later orders of the same locomotive by CP, spec'd out the Hi-Adhesion trucks due to increased maintenance requirements and costs of the self-steering design. The AC44CW was also delivered with Steerable trucks, and many have been upgraded at time of refurbishment or rebuilding, to Hi-Ad trucks instead.
Stan Patterson thank you very much I always wanted to know the name of that self-centering truck design end why it isn't around I've only seen a couple locomotives with that design one of them was Kansas City Southern GE had one of those self centering truck designs thank you for letting me know graciously appreciate it peace out in the world have a great day
Locomotive Speed Limiter.
roadies>roadbed
20:26 while Union Pacific
20:21 fast intermodal trains
20:22?