I owned a GT 2.0 before i bought my mito QV, still mis my old GT. Don't see them that often. The car makes you feel special between all the audi's,bmw's, vw's
@@AlexAlex-rz1nt if it still uses oil you should use liqui moly engine flush before the oil change to free up the pistonrings. Also put ceratec with the new oil. This limited the oil consumtion on my GT 2.0 JTS from 1l on 2000 km to 1l on 6000km. Try it! It really gonna work
Nice review mate! I own a 2007 GT 3.2 too and wish I could have mine blasting on the Autobann. This is such as amazing car to drive and has the best engine note in the world!
Sometimes I wonder if I had waited just a bit longer, I might have gotten myself one of these instead of my current car: a 2003 Z4 3.0i (E85) Same sort of performance but that Busso engine in comparison sounds awesome and revs pretty high - love that car ! Bravo to the owner and thank you @AutoTopNL 👏🏽
One of the best car tests I've seen. I really like that you show how the car is to drive in normal driving. Then you get a better understanding of the car's character than you get with just full throttle driving. You really show how alert and on Busson is all the time. then that you have access to Autobhan and can show a full throttle driving at top speed where the crown is on the work. thank you very much for your nice video. PS you drive exactly the same as me when I drive my Busso car. I also crank down the window at tunnels and gas on. 😁
I'm very surprised you say the front end is not communicative. I have a 1.8TS GT with stock suspension and I can tell exactly what the front is doing. Maybe something to do with the aftermarket suspension in combination with the very heavy engine
Must be suspension. I've driven my friends Q2 diesel many times which has heavy engine also, for grip and feel its one of the best FWD cars I've ever driven, right up there with the older Hondas in my experience.
I've had a V6 and currently own a JTS - the JTS does handle much better. The front is lighter, the steering rack is a little bit more talkative and the car feels a lot more eager to turn in. The V6 is a point-and-shoot machine, the 4 cylinder cars have the handling finesse. Also the turning circle is MUCH better, the V6 struggles to turn 90 degrees in certain car parks.
@@Strike86 turning circle is better on jts, because it have different steering gear what is caused by big brembo brake system and steering points (i don't know that im using correct word for this part of steering system).
That's not true, the GT was never 'facelifted'. They only changed the chrome finish on the grille and blacked out the headlights on certain models. I think you must be confusing it with the 147 which it shares most of its chassis with.
Heb ooit een 147 gehad.. interieur is echt identiek. Grappig. Over de versnellingsbak.. daar kan de eigenaar wel wat aan laten doen. Dat had ik in mijn 147 ook.. bleek het een en ander niet goed te zitten. Even onderhoud aan uit laten voeren en dan schakelt hij weer super strak. Je ziet het ook in je video als je schakelt.. na het schakelen lijkt de pook een soort van in neutraal te 'staan'.
Am I the only one who finds that the GT has a front end that looks like a Bugatti Veyron? In any case, being an Alfa Romeo fan, it comes in my top 3 after the 8C. Like the 147 GTA it's the last Alfa to have the REAL Italian V6 Busso and it's super fun to drive
Very awesome car! I´m surprised the cover of the passenger airbag is still in shape! I noticed those things got a habit of deforming a little, at Alfas from that time.
There is always something to learn. Up to my info they were exiting the plant with 3.2 till 2005 as mine is, apearently not. Very good review. My is stock plus Q2 so drives and sounds a bit different. A bit slower but regarding the handling when everything is working properly it is doing good job even on the track. I agree with opinion about gear changing. It is possible to set it properly but these cables are not good solution and you can hardly find them now. In case of failure do not use cables from 6speed diesel nor 2.5v6 cause they are different. There are comapnies preparing new cables with use of old elements - this is better option if you can't find original. I am impressed by 100-200 times - no pre 2010 car on the list and Hyundai N slower. Ok I was able to beat on the trak some Golf Rs even but this was slow and curvy track. Regarding prices let's see. Now almost everything which is thisty can have a hard time. In principle well maintained and good looking GT v6 can be even more expensive than moderate GTA. And...small bonus... it is faster on the track stock vs. stock :)
The Alfa 156 won car of the year. So hardly hated. But they depreciated heavily. Nowadays you rarely see one of them on the street or even offered for sale. If you are looking to buy one, there are maybe 3-6 on offer in all of germany. And the chance of a ropy one is not slim. I just love these cars. My dad had an 166 and I currently own two 156s, one with a 1.8 TS engine and the other with a 2.5 busso v6. Shame that there is such a thing as separated markets for cars. I guess you could import one at some point. But it'll be probably too late by then
I must agree whit top gear, the back of the GT is horrible. Also I was about to buy a 2.0 version of the car, the owner the day before the purchase (luckily for me) got the engine broke....but yes it's still a nice car
I ponder on it and Hyundai Coupe 2.7 V6. Hyundai is a bit more practical has no mechanical issues but they do rust a bit. But alfa would just sound better, handle better, be more powerful and is just so lovely looking...I am a bit torn. Shifter feel seems like a turn off but maybe it can be fixed with some after market parts. Hyundai has fully mechanical throttle still and isnt slow at all tho with 2.7 seennit do 7s to 100km/h in tests instead of specsheet 8,5.
@@ukaszbendlin5571 as Ziad said, that's high compression engine, something like 11/11.5 comparing to 10/10.5 of 3.2. So you feel even a better difference using not 95 fuel. When I owned 2.0jts it looked really another car with 100.
Which year is that Alfa Romeo ?? And I'm thinking to buy the 2005 version around 3000-3500 euros . Is it a good price guys ?? Please let me know immediately .
I have GT 3.2 with lot of mods, before had two 156es with 2.5 v6, now thinking about rx8, i saw that you drived both, can you tell me your opinion about this cars when compare them. Thank you very much.
It's quick as stock with no software or engine tuned. If you change engine balance you can get back the loss with a good map but it goes pretty the same.
You didn't own one right? They're mechanically awful 😅 The new Giulia and Stelvio are good but the other/older models have too much gas consumption and something always breaks
@@sayonaraos7750 I own a Giulietta atm and fell in love with the brand, Julia in a few years probably:) so far no problems, fuel consumption could be better but its still less than a bmw I used to have with similar engine
@@sayonaraos7750 Obviously you didn't own one.. I've owned multiple.. it all comes down to maintenance. If you slack on maintenance.. yes something will break..
@@sayonaraos7750 Alfa Romeo’s are like any other car if you look after it it’ll look after you. All this nonsense talk that they are unreliable and always break are complete ballshit
As matter of interest, should be 2 central catalytic corverter behind the engine removed, I mean the ones under the car center, not the 2 front precat in the middle on the exhaust manifold, since given the video the front manifold looks stock with heat shield next to the fans.
The 2 precats are gone. De ECU is centered right above these cats and this can cause problems due to heat. The car feels more powerful since this upgrade. I am planning to measure the power at a test bench.
@@Gerkee I see, well I did the same on gt 3.2 but I feel a bit loss of torque and power at low rpm. I did an ecu map and I got back top power from 238 to 255 hp but the power and torque curve from 2000 to 5000 rpm is a bit lower than stock. I'm satisfied for high rpm power, but I clearly noticed that if you change engine balance and free the exhaust you lose low rpm torque, cause with no catalytics you reduce back pressure out through the manifolds.
Km and revo watches are from 2004/2005. Gear lever is for diesel GT, color of central console is dark, like from 2007. Seats are 2004-2006 . Owner combined accessories from few GTs.
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i once had a 147 GTA with the same engine. i miss that car so much. the car had character and was so damn fun to drive
i have a 147 1.6ts and dream about the gta every time i drive mine
@@malapumpa1605 you can swap it for 3.0 from 156 easily
@@wassilia1234 156 had only the 2.5 v6 24v, and the GTA
166 had 2.5-3.0-3.2 V6 24v
@@hobizoli what do you mean, 156 GTA had 3.0
@@wassilia1234 It definitely does not. 156 GTA has the 3.2 V6.
love this car, still looks awesome 15 yrs after it came out.
These are going up in value. Buy them before it is too late...
I already own one and they are fun to drive and the sound is😍
Same as the focus rs mk1
never sold it,she is still in my garage with 17.000km
@@nasosrevis jesus
The 156 and 147 GTA are expensive. These GT 3.2s not so much. I sold mine last year because it's impossible to get parts for these days.
“Il violino di Arese”
I owned a GT 2.0 before i bought my mito QV, still mis my old GT. Don't see them that often. The car makes you feel special between all the audi's,bmw's, vw's
How you found with 2.0 jts oil consumption?
@@AlexAlex-rz1nt trust me, its alot and it takes special 10w60 oil and not 5w40 or 10w40
@@Ziad-ww6tw I know, I used selenia 10w60 but the consumption was endless. But could be just my engine
@@AlexAlex-rz1nt if it still uses oil you should use liqui moly engine flush before the oil change to free up the pistonrings. Also put ceratec with the new oil. This limited the oil consumtion on my GT 2.0 JTS from 1l on 2000 km to 1l on 6000km. Try it! It really gonna work
@@Ziad-ww6tw it looks a good idea... I changed it with 3.2 cause I had lack of power in cylinders.
Nice review mate! I own a 2007 GT 3.2 too and wish I could have mine blasting on the Autobann. This is such as amazing car to drive and has the best engine note in the world!
When it is about Alfa Romeo I'm watching from beginning to the end, no skip, no fast forward.
Sometimes I wonder if I had waited just a bit longer, I might have gotten myself one of these instead of my current car: a 2003 Z4 3.0i (E85)
Same sort of performance but that Busso engine in comparison sounds awesome and revs pretty high - love that car !
Bravo to the owner and thank you @AutoTopNL 👏🏽
I've taken one to 260kmh easily
They're really powerful considering the age
Cars from that era were already modern.
@@alejandroperez5368 this is not a car from that era
@@doddsalfa what?
@@alejandroperez5368 that
@@doddsalfa this Alfa Romeo is from its era, and it's still modern. Your comment makes no sense. Bye creep
I also owned a GT, same colour, same rims. As GT QV Q2 JTDm. I miss this car every single day !
Gorgeous. More Alfa!
Thanks AutoTopNL for the videos and the experience! Really nice lads and lovely videos of my car!
Man i freaking love alfa.. like i hope some day i own one of these work of art cars
One of the best car tests I've seen. I really like that you show how the car is to drive in normal driving. Then you get a better understanding of the car's character than you get with just full throttle driving. You really show how alert and on Busson is all the time. then that you have access to Autobhan and can show a full throttle driving at top speed where the crown is on the work. thank you very much for your nice video. PS you drive exactly the same as me when I drive my Busso car. I also crank down the window at tunnels and gas on. 😁
I may not be a fan of Alfa Romeo but this one is a beauty!
you can say that to about 95% of alfas lol
I'm very surprised you say the front end is not communicative. I have a 1.8TS GT with stock suspension and I can tell exactly what the front is doing. Maybe something to do with the aftermarket suspension in combination with the very heavy engine
Must be suspension. I've driven my friends Q2 diesel many times which has heavy engine also, for grip and feel its one of the best FWD cars I've ever driven, right up there with the older Hondas in my experience.
@@DaveSpecC nice avatar!!
@@ardonjr back at you man! 😁
I've had a V6 and currently own a JTS - the JTS does handle much better. The front is lighter, the steering rack is a little bit more talkative and the car feels a lot more eager to turn in. The V6 is a point-and-shoot machine, the 4 cylinder cars have the handling finesse. Also the turning circle is MUCH better, the V6 struggles to turn 90 degrees in certain car parks.
@@Strike86 turning circle is better on jts, because it have different steering gear what is caused by big brembo brake system and steering points (i don't know that im using correct word for this part of steering system).
The way Max said “Bertone” 🤣🤣
Pre face-lift had smaller front headlights and the triangular grill was smaller too. My dad had one it was lovely
That's not true, the GT was never 'facelifted'. They only changed the chrome finish on the grille and blacked out the headlights on certain models.
I think you must be confusing it with the 147 which it shares most of its chassis with.
@@Strike86 💯✅
I had a black line 1.9 jtdm little different but so fun and smooth to drive, grab Ur self one if u can
Heb ooit een 147 gehad.. interieur is echt identiek. Grappig. Over de versnellingsbak.. daar kan de eigenaar wel wat aan laten doen. Dat had ik in mijn 147 ook.. bleek het een en ander niet goed te zitten. Even onderhoud aan uit laten voeren en dan schakelt hij weer super strak. Je ziet het ook in je video als je schakelt.. na het schakelen lijkt de pook een soort van in neutraal te 'staan'.
Mankeert niks aan. Bakje schakelt snaar strak, maar is niet sportief.
@@Gerkee Vandaag mijn 3.2 gehad, wat een onzin over de bak zeg. Super strak. Koppeling beetje zwaar, maar dat is misschien alleen de mijne
Am I the only one who finds that the GT has a front end that looks like a Bugatti Veyron?
In any case, being an Alfa Romeo fan, it comes in my top 3 after the 8C.
Like the 147 GTA it's the last Alfa to have the REAL Italian V6 Busso and it's super fun to drive
Thank You for all of your videos that you did. I am enjoying all of them
Italian beast right there🙌🏾🇮🇹
Maybe if you can find a skoda superb (2012) with a 3.6L V6 N/A engine that would be cool
Skoda and cool don't fit in the same sentence.
@@xandeo you should drive one of those🙂
@@randomcontent2469 Perhaps great mechanically... but from the image and the brand itself, no thanks. Simply not interested.
@@xandeo speak for yourself.
If you want 3.6 vr6 and cool to be in the same sentence, make sure the car is a VW CC not a Skoda Superb.
Very awesome car! I´m surprised the cover of the passenger airbag is still in shape! I noticed those things got a habit of deforming a little, at Alfas from that time.
yea they do, dont know how or why tho
Just purchased a 3.2 q4 939 spider. Its unbelievable
There is always something to learn. Up to my info they were exiting the plant with 3.2 till 2005 as mine is, apearently not. Very good review. My is stock plus Q2 so drives and sounds a bit different. A bit slower but regarding the handling when everything is working properly it is doing good job even on the track. I agree with opinion about gear changing. It is possible to set it properly but these cables are not good solution and you can hardly find them now. In case of failure do not use cables from 6speed diesel nor 2.5v6 cause they are different. There are comapnies preparing new cables with use of old elements - this is better option if you can't find original. I am impressed by 100-200 times - no pre 2010 car on the list and Hyundai N slower. Ok I was able to beat on the trak some Golf Rs even but this was slow and curvy track. Regarding prices let's see. Now almost everything which is thisty can have a hard time. In principle well maintained and good looking GT v6 can be even more expensive than moderate GTA. And...small bonus... it is faster on the track stock vs. stock :)
The only update was for the GT on 2006 and the v6 was produced only from 2004 to 2006.
A rare piece!
Just very engaging cars. I'll take it over an I4 Giulia for sure.
Pretty cool Alfa it's quite quick for a naturally aspirated engine the Quadrifoglio is way better though
And BMW is better
Yeah much better I like the New G80 M3 Competition it’s sick I saw on earlier today on the road in grey it looked not bad
@@stevepugzz3477 i've seen the BMW with that grille but i still don't like it.
@Jens yeah your right that grill doesn't look that good it's not bad but it would probably look better if it was in black or something
@@stevepugzz3477 yeah, i agree. The rest of the car is pretty nice though.
My dream car when I was a kid...
The most beautiful alfa
Such a beautiful car.
04:45 I wouldn't dare to push those coin and cup holders :))))
Beautiful car.
I am driving mine from Geelong to Canberra via Mt Panorama tomorrow 😊
Italian cars still beat german cars. To the day
Why the Alfa I want, 156/159, are the most hated ones? Always wanted a 156 GTA! We never got them in the states.
Because they are not RWD. I have the 159 and it's a great car, but simply FWD.
Who told you they were hated 🤔 the 156gta is a legend
The 159 still looks awesome even today
The Alfa 156 won car of the year. So hardly hated. But they depreciated heavily. Nowadays you rarely see one of them on the street or even offered for sale. If you are looking to buy one, there are maybe 3-6 on offer in all of germany. And the chance of a ropy one is not slim.
I just love these cars. My dad had an 166 and I currently own two 156s, one with a 1.8 TS engine and the other with a 2.5 busso v6.
Shame that there is such a thing as separated markets for cars. I guess you could import one at some point. But it'll be probably too late by then
I owned 156 2.5v6 before, i love that car,
Love this engine I'm just about to engine swap one into my 159 thats got the 2.4 diesel in atm
Ok i changed my mind i'm getting this beast loving the purring it does
is that a Glashutte Sea Q?? great vid BTW, there's not much out on this awesome car
“We are getting in front of that Audi” while it was a VW 😂
I also had to replay that moment just to make sure and I think Max was talking about the car in his mirror
Ale to zapierdala❤️❤️❤️
...a bit funny to see how huge engine moves small car...pretty cool😊👍
what a car.. and what a presentation. amazing
I'd like to see you taking for a drive a Ford Focus ST 170
Very beautiful engine 👌🏻
Would love to buy one, but these are already going up quickly
Alfa Romeo Gt 🔝🔝🔝👍👍👍
the Q2 diff had only the Q2 and the Ducati Corse editions
Great review ❤
Each of my four Alfa 166 3.2 reaches 260 km/h (according to the speedometer ;-)
Imagine if it was RWD.
they‘d be worth double the €€
bmw 330Ci E46
Ugh the FWD was annoying and because of the heavy V6, it would understeer as hell. The Q2 diff helped though. I do miss the sound of that V6
That's the only thing I don't like about Alfas is they love FWD i wish they had some AWD or RWD
@@Jo-gu9st really great car but not the same soul. 😉
you should do a review on alfa romeo 156 2.0 twinspark
I must agree whit top gear, the back of the GT is horrible.
Also I was about to buy a 2.0 version of the car, the owner the day before the purchase (luckily for me) got the engine broke....but yes it's still a nice car
ive got one of those cars......he no lie!
Everyone should own a Alfa once in their life, and experience all the different warning lights comming on now and then😉
Quite a machine 😊👍
Magnífico 🔥🔥🔥
😀😀😀
Most beautiful engine ❤
I ponder on it and Hyundai Coupe 2.7 V6. Hyundai is a bit more practical has no mechanical issues but they do rust a bit. But alfa would just sound better, handle better, be more powerful and is just so lovely looking...I am a bit torn. Shifter feel seems like a turn off but maybe it can be fixed with some after market parts. Hyundai has fully mechanical throttle still and isnt slow at all tho with 2.7 seennit do 7s to 100km/h in tests instead of specsheet 8,5.
Splendid car, I have a gt jtd. Very satisfied.
I have Alfa Romeo GT 2.0 JTS 🔥
Use 100 octane fuel:-)
@@AlexAlex-rz1nt Why 100? I use 95
@@ukaszbendlin5571 because its a high compression engine
@@ukaszbendlin5571 as Ziad said, that's high compression engine, something like 11/11.5 comparing to 10/10.5 of 3.2. So you feel even a better difference using not 95 fuel. When I owned 2.0jts it looked really another car with 100.
@@ukaszbendlin5571 dont use 95!
Which year is that Alfa Romeo ?? And I'm thinking to buy the 2005 version around 3000-3500 euros . Is it a good price guys ?? Please let me know immediately .
plis make a pov review of audi a3 3.2 VR6
I have GT 3.2 with lot of mods, before had two 156es with 2.5 v6, now thinking about rx8, i saw that you drived both, can you tell me your opinion about this cars when compare them. Thank you very much.
Please make a sound check from outside
Just to put you right mate some of the GT cloverleaf 1.8 TS has the Q2 diff ?? well mine does lol
This car isn't from 2008.
It's a 2007. You can sea it when you check the license plate.
Alfa ❤️
My stock 3.2 GT does just over 4 seconds 80-120, this seems only a fraction quicker.
There must be something wrong with the front arms becaus Alfa have a very very sharp handling and feeling
Remember: you cant be a petrol head without owning an Alfa!
That did seem quite a bit faster than expected. Btw I still want AutoTopNL Hat/Tshirt :)
Hell yea! And it has to say ‘Holy Moly’ on them!
It's quick as stock with no software or engine tuned. If you change engine balance you can get back the loss with a good map but it goes pretty the same.
PERFECT AMAZING FANTASTIC
Owned one!! Still a very sexy car!!
I really miss the 15 seconds of auto top nl
“But i don’t hate it”
Just idiots can hate this car.
I like it … really !
Which app do he use on his phone?
Nice car bro
Want u to make Alfa 156 selespeed or twin spark
fucking love Alfa Romeo :)
You didn't own one right? They're mechanically awful 😅
The new Giulia and Stelvio are good but the other/older models have too much gas consumption and something always breaks
@@sayonaraos7750 I own a Giulietta atm and fell in love with the brand, Julia in a few years probably:) so far no problems, fuel consumption could be better but its still less than a bmw I used to have with similar engine
@@sayonaraos7750 Obviously you didn't own one.. I've owned multiple.. it all comes down to maintenance. If you slack on maintenance.. yes something will break..
@@sayonaraos7750 Alfa Romeo’s are like any other car if you look after it it’ll look after you. All this nonsense talk that they are unreliable and always break are complete ballshit
@@sayonaraos7750 i have GT 3.2 and I love she and I hate she in the same moment.
too bad the image is so distorted due to the high viewing angle...
Ima get one quick
As matter of interest, should be 2 central catalytic corverter behind the engine removed, I mean the ones under the car center, not the 2 front precat in the middle on the exhaust manifold, since given the video the front manifold looks stock with heat shield next to the fans.
Should be the precats removed. You can still attach the heat shields after removing the stock precats.
The 2 precats are gone. De ECU is centered right above these cats and this can cause problems due to heat. The car feels more powerful since this upgrade. I am planning to measure the power at a test bench.
@@Gerkee I see, well I did the same on gt 3.2 but I feel a bit loss of torque and power at low rpm. I did an ecu map and I got back top power from 238 to 255 hp but the power and torque curve from 2000 to 5000 rpm is a bit lower than stock. I'm satisfied for high rpm power, but I clearly noticed that if you change engine balance and free the exhaust you lose low rpm torque, cause with no catalytics you reduce back pressure out through the manifolds.
@@AlexAlex-rz1nt interesting I also heard this from someone else
🔥🔥🔥❤
rombante come una vera alfa romeo
beautiful car for this money x) (y)
1:11 Is that the correct way to pronounce Bertone?
Uhu.
Too quiet exhaust sound😢 for this masterpiece
Can you drive 156GTA?
holy molyyy
I want those wheels...
It only need a 8 speed german ZF gearbox and it will be woderful
10:50 Audi?? Its a VW Tiguan
Km and revo watches are from 2004/2005. Gear lever is for diesel GT, color of central console is dark, like from 2007. Seats are 2004-2006 .
Owner combined accessories from few GTs.
No way! Everything is original!
The instrument cluster is original since they didn't make facelifted ones for V6 engines, the only ones mapped to 300km/h.
V6 has old gauges standard and gearlever of gt v6 and diesel are the same
@@Ziad-ww6tw FL diesel has a different gearlever.
@@Gerkee no, i have had a gt diesel and a v6 and they are the same.
1.8 ans 2.0 have other alumium shifter
Please... Its not an Italian v6... Its a *busso* *v6*
Next: Lada Niva gts 34
I dont think remap make a significant diference on a N/A car
Yes, but it is quite required after the removal of the stock manifolds (CF3 with catalytic converters).
@@achilleaspatsiouras2528 I would like to mount the CF2 mainfolds and change intake and exhaust. I'm pretty interested what will happen after remap 🙈
@@mrozu_ar +10-15 hp gain