Alfa Romeo BUSSO V6 - What makes it GREAT? - ICONIC ENGINES #15

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  • @d4a
    @d4a  3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

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    • @jaake6091
      @jaake6091 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can we get and Audi r8 v10 video?
      I just cant wrap my head around the fact that it is v10 with 90 degree angle between cylinders which gives it uneven firing sequence but still is a realy good engine.

    • @donnied8127
      @donnied8127 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can see you used quite a few images from Autodelta UK. Jano was probably the first one to increase v6 12v to 3.5L and did that for SZ, that was also converted to RHD for a customer. Later, he did 3.5L 12v for another customer with Alfa 75 producing in excess of 260Bhp. Later days, he has done a number of 156/147 GTAs to 3.7l, or supercharged, or both even both, producing over 410bhp. There is also one supercharged SZ belonging to my mate that Autodelta engineered mid 00s.
      PS
      Great video !!!

    • @hoilst265
      @hoilst265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ford Barra. Straight Six Symphony.

    • @donnied8127
      @donnied8127 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hoilst265 I would actually rate Ferrari Dino v6 slightly better on a sound department than Busso, but having had AR Busso in a few cars would be a treason from my side. :D

    • @EdgyNumber1
      @EdgyNumber1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      D4A. Here's an unusual one, GM/Opel 54° V6, (X/Y/Z)32SE unit, as found on the Vectra and Omega. Apart from vehicle packaging, what would be other advantages to this unit configuration?

  • @victorcorpadea1340
    @victorcorpadea1340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +352

    Busso dying a few days after his creation ceased production, a few tears went down my face.

    • @thedamnyankee1
      @thedamnyankee1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Same. never heard of this engine before... but now i'm sad about it.

    • @vozhdmeister5256
      @vozhdmeister5256 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      It sounds litterally like "the masterpiece of a life".
      As if Busso's vitality and these engines were metaphysically bound...
      In the meantime that man was graduated in 1937 so around 90 years old when he passed away.

    • @xynostasos9022
      @xynostasos9022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Not just a few tears to be honest. I had read it before but listening it really touched me.

    • @Alejandro_BoniIIa
      @Alejandro_BoniIIa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Died of heartbreak 😭

    • @byGiNeSiToX
      @byGiNeSiToX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The most Italian thing I’ve ever seen

  • @gugozen
    @gugozen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +778

    When Busso died, a lot of people with busso-engined cars went to his funeral , and as the coffin exit the church they started together the engine, to let him give the last greeting to his creator.

    • @padillaxA
      @padillaxA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      I'm a passionate auto enthusiast of all fasets.
      Hearing this hit me in the feels.
      The admiration of an inanimate engine and showing tribute to its creator post animate
      The emotions and symbolism in deep rooted car culture is fantastic and humbling!

    • @MrAxel1666
      @MrAxel1666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Io, quel giorno, ero presente con la Mia GTV 3.0 V6. In Italia, i motori, sono sacri e i loro creatori sono Divinità 😉

    • @nicodetoffol6945
      @nicodetoffol6945 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@MrAxel1666 sono divinità solo per gli appassionati però....e forse poi neanche tanto da loro.... visto la grande esterofilia che dilaga

    • @MrAxel1666
      @MrAxel1666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@nicodetoffol6945 non ho detto i motori italiani, ma solo I Motori. Era per intendere che nella terra dello stivale amiamo i motori , tutti.

    • @Nanorisk
      @Nanorisk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@MrAxel1666 thanks TH-cam for adding comment translation, I salute you.

  • @Andrea70swb
    @Andrea70swb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    As Italian guy that live in Monza , 30 minutes far from Arese, I want to send to you a HUGE applause for this video and for your Italian accent. This si the most comprehensive video on Busso engine on the web. Deep compliments.

  • @user-nu5ib2ri9o
    @user-nu5ib2ri9o 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    What a nice video, thanks! I had a 156 with a Busso V6, and it was a perfectly reliable engine, inexpensive to maintain and very easy to live with. A moment of surprise came when I asked a mechanic to read the ECU parameters, and we learned that its maximum recorded RPM was ~10,500. Apparently the previous owner downshifted to the 3rd on a highway :)

    • @tiagobelo4965
      @tiagobelo4965 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      A dangerous mistake, but man must it have sounded glorious

  • @KosmatiBohem
    @KosmatiBohem 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    And I own car with this V6, which was disassembled to last bolt and refurbished by official Alfa Romeo shop and it received 2 year factory warranty on engine, which originally produced in 1991. What a icon. It's is truly addictive and you cant stop accelerating, driving and consuming fuel. It is the best looking and sounding V6 and that kind of engine is not possible anymore. It is one of the few monuments of the car history.

  • @raymondglad5593
    @raymondglad5593 3 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    Super smooth to 7000Rpm. So many times I hit the rev limiter without realising where the revs it where. The sound was the best. Miss my Alfa.

    • @psk5746
      @psk5746 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Yep, I've been driving along at 110+ and noticed the revs seemed a little high. Yep in 4th instead of 6th, but couldn't tell ... wasn't the leased bit stressed.
      All Alfa engines are like this, they don't always necessarily rev high, but they are more than happy to run all day very close to that limit

    • @fallinginthed33p
      @fallinginthed33p 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@psk5746 TwinSpark fours also sounded great.

  • @SuperYellowsubmarin
    @SuperYellowsubmarin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    The 2.5 V6 of my Alfa 155 will probably remain my best automotive memory.

  • @theodoremarakas9899
    @theodoremarakas9899 3 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    This was one of the best documentaries out there. Plenty of information and historic research and free of silly music and theatrics. Thank you sir.

  • @802Garage
    @802Garage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    Epic history. Shared it with my Italian friend who is a major car history buff. Thanks as always! The Italian rap was awesome.

  • @flaviopk50s
    @flaviopk50s 3 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    everyday i start up my Alfa V6, i feel better than previous day.

    • @joey_mc
      @joey_mc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Me too!

    • @basbouwman5139
      @basbouwman5139 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too!

    • @NathanaelNaused
      @NathanaelNaused 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah because it's still working lol

    • @studiocalder818
      @studiocalder818 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NathanaelNausedWell, now you can sit down comfortable

    • @flaviopk50s
      @flaviopk50s 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NathanaelNaused why shouldn't it work?

  • @Achromaticshades
    @Achromaticshades 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    First 16 seconds has been like "Damn my english level is really becoming good, i understand it like italian" 😳

  • @stevenash4408
    @stevenash4408 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I watched some of your vids from 3 years ago, you have come a long way. I like watching people hone their skills and become successful. You are truly a talented, smart and articulate young man. You work very hard at what you do and it shows. Keep up the good work and thank you for being you.

    • @d4a
      @d4a  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thank you for such sincere support 🙏

    • @hemi-spherical57
      @hemi-spherical57 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll give him the 33 grade for the Busso Engine Video! 😀

  • @laurentbruneel9382
    @laurentbruneel9382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    YOU are purely astonishing !!!
    So many language skills. Italian rap... la pasta genovese ! Mi hai ucciso !!
    And incorporate Davide Cironi’s video which is a reference !
    My true and honests compliments for that episode I’ve been awaiting for a while.
    Saluti di francia !

    • @d4a
      @d4a  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you so much for that kind comment. Saluti di Sarajevo 😊

    • @laurentbruneel9382
      @laurentbruneel9382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just one little observation, pretty “futile” according to all the good content and information you’ve brought in this video. Italians are kind of strange in the way they pronounce the letter V. Can’t explain why but they say “vu” ! Il famoso vu sei Busso !

    • @vozhdmeister5256
      @vozhdmeister5256 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@laurentbruneel9382 that's because Italian is nearest language to Latin. Latin alphabet has no U letter, Romans used the V character for both. In Italian the V keeps that relationship to the 'Latin U'. I think this is the reason for they say 'vu' for V.

    • @laurentbruneel9382
      @laurentbruneel9382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@vozhdmeister5256 you may be right. Anyway in the alphabet the V letter is called “vee”, and W is “vu doppia”.
      By the way, it should have been interesting to talk about Autodelta UK tuning of the Busso. They bored it up to 3,7l, with added supercharger. Got very few information on it but it was supposedly delivering about 400hp on the front axle...

  • @peekaboo1575
    @peekaboo1575 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    I wasn't expecting the Busso, truth be told. One of the few good-sounding V6s out there.

    • @fredericrike5974
      @fredericrike5974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Mazda KZLE can make some decent noise, too! As well as being relatively light for it's power. FR

    • @peekaboo1575
      @peekaboo1575 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fredericrike5974 Is that the 1800cc V6 from the MX3? I have to say that I never heard one IRL, they must be nice indeed.

    • @fredericrike5974
      @fredericrike5974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@peekaboo1575 the 1800cc is the beginning of the same engine series- 1.8l, 2.0l, and 2.5 liter were also part of it. They all have a fast, crisp sound, the KLZE the most performance tuned one. Mazda had design money in this engine, Ford did and put a variant in the Probe, and the head was from Yamaha Development. There are elements from this design that appear in the Ford DOHC V6's that the MKZ and Jaguar used. And it is one of the lightest, smallest in it's class. I can think of several that have made there way into Miatas- seems to make an awesome car. FR

    • @C64SX
      @C64SX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Busso V6 has always been my favourite, but I was pleasantly surprised when I drove my friends Lotus Exige with the Toyota V6. Almost Busso level sound quality :)

  • @Biteme1010
    @Biteme1010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I drove a Quadrifolgio and I absolutely fell in love with the car and will be buying it monday. Ive never fallen so hard or so fast for a car in my life.

    • @mrwhips3623
      @mrwhips3623 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you have it already?

    • @Biteme1010
      @Biteme1010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mrwhips3623 Yes bought it a week ago.

    • @mrwhips3623
      @mrwhips3623 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Biteme1010 u should upload a short video on your channel. Now I kinda wanna see it

    • @XMarkxyz
      @XMarkxyz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Biteme1010 Nice choice, did you buy a Stelvio or a Giulia?

    • @Biteme1010
      @Biteme1010 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@XMarkxyz Giulia, I should have mentioned that.... I did my market research and was kinda nervous since some people were having various electrical issues. I ended up buying the extended warranty since it only has 9 months left on it.

  • @TheChzoronzon
    @TheChzoronzon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Rapping in italian, this is out of control! :D What a lusso for the busso...

  • @fastcargtv6
    @fastcargtv6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Some addition to the topic.
    A N/A 2.0 V6 has existed for the Italian market in the 80's which they put into the Alfa 6 and then into the Alfa 90.
    The Alfa 164 was already production-ready by the time Fiat took over the company.
    The 3.0 12V also remained in production under 2001 for the Alfa Spider (916) series while the GTV (916) sibling was powered by the V6 TB or the 24V variants.
    For the swansong of the Busso engine every model in the Alfa line-up has received the 3.2-litre version but while the GTAs (147, 156) were rated at 250 HP the other models (GT, GTV, Spider, 166) were detuned by software to 240 HP.
    About the Nord-motor (the alloy, twin-cam engine from Busso produced from 1954) its derivative, the 8V Twin Spark remained in production until 1997 when the last 164s were produced. So it remained in production for over 4 decades.

    • @kasimirdenhertog3516
      @kasimirdenhertog3516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I believe the GT was the last one fitted with the V6?

    • @fastcargtv6
      @fastcargtv6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@kasimirdenhertog3516 In order of appearance it was.
      The chronological order of models with Busso V6 engine is the following:
      1979 - Alfa 6
      1980 - GTV6
      1984 - Alfa 90
      1985 - Alfa 75
      1987 - Alfa 164
      1989 - Alfa SZ
      1992 - Alfa RZ
      1992 - Alfa 155
      1994 - Alfa Spider and GTV (916)
      1997 - Alfa 156
      1998 - Alfa 166
      2002 - Alfa 147
      2003 - Alfa GT
      Other cars equipped with it:
      Fiat Croma
      Rayton Fissore Magnum V6
      Lancia Thema
      Lancia Kappa
      Lancia Thesis
      Gilet Vertigo

    • @joey_mc
      @joey_mc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kasimirdenhertog3516 yes the last Alfa's produced with the Busso were the GT 3.2

    • @frosty98412
      @frosty98412 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I do not think they were detuned by software to 240 hp, I think they did not get the upgraded GTA intake camshafts and thus lost power.

    • @pedrorocha870
      @pedrorocha870 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your input! I was amazed to learn that the Busso V6 2.0 NA existed, I will be more attentive because normally these versions only for Italy also arrived to Portugal, the tax system was the same type as the Italian one, so the same problems were posed and they were solved with the same solutions! and the truth is that version sometimes are less performant but I find these versions very cool!

  • @louvendran7273
    @louvendran7273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Awesome video mate, your knowledge shines through. Knowing these engines well, I found it fascinating. Being born in South Africa, it has a special place in my heart as the 3L Busso found on the GTV was initially introduced there. During the trade embargo at the time the GTV 3.0 was every schoolboy's dream. That awesome exhaust note, I could pickup in my sleep if anybody drove past on the street.

  • @igioz
    @igioz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    when there was a NAME behind a project, behind an engine ecc, it have a SOUL, in my humble opinion

    • @theblue7877
      @theblue7877 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly, they designed engines with feeling!

  • @cipher2508
    @cipher2508 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Day 640 of asking D4A to do video on motorcycle engines...
    [Car community is LUCKY to have this gem of a channel]

    • @d4a
      @d4a  3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It's happening I promise. I'm just one guy and it takes time to go through all the content because I publish just one video per week. But there will be an engine balance video on twin and/or inline two cylinder engine configurations in the next month or two.

    • @cipher2508
      @cipher2508 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@d4a Wow that was fast :]
      Anything you create will be fucking awesome man, I'm sure of it
      Thanx again btw

  • @thereeven
    @thereeven 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Everything you said about the Busso V6 in the tuning session can basically be applied to the infamous family of 5 cilynder engines by Lancia/Fiat. I personally love then (the sound!). As a descendant of italians, it is hard for me to not become emotional when talking about beautifully sounding Italian engines 😂😂! Cheers from Brazil!

  • @chrissavage5966
    @chrissavage5966 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've had 7 Busso V6 engine cars over the years. Still have one in a project I completed recently too. I've experienced most of the problems with them that you mention here and it's so good to hear you call them out. No such thing as a perfect engine so there's no shame in acknowledging the issues they may have. Bravo Sir!

  • @DanielFrost79
    @DanielFrost79 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Wow. I love Alfa Romeo.
    They are the brand that sticks out.. atleast to me. ❤
    Love the Italian rap in the end. That was a bit different. Amore!

  • @roryfreeman9433
    @roryfreeman9433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very enjoyable video - back in the 70s and 80s I had 1600, 1750, 2000, 2500 and 3000 Alfas - lovely exiting and drivable cars.

  • @waltwimer2551
    @waltwimer2551 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a (U.S.-based) Alfa enthusiast since the late '80s, and also a fan of your presentation style and in-depth knowledge, I thoroughly enjoyed this video! Fantastic! Molto grazie!!!

  • @kevindebono7306
    @kevindebono7306 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had an Alfa GTA 3.2 and this engine was really amazing!! You never get used to the sound!!

  • @ingocernohorsky
    @ingocernohorsky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    The Busso V6 was also used in the 2003 Alfa Romeo GT. I had a 2006 model with 240 HP.

    • @daliborilic5358
      @daliborilic5358 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Indeed, I believe that GT was actually the last model with the famous Busso.

    • @daliborilic5358
      @daliborilic5358 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Btw, what's it like?
      I own a cheap 1.8 GT that's eats oil but goes surprisingly well, and I'm looking to buy a Busso..
      And, yeah, why did you sell it?

  • @alfafreak2011
    @alfafreak2011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This was a beautiful tribute to the Amazing Busso V6! As Heavy Metal Alfa, I have been dedicated to keeping GTV6' s alive for 28 years! I am a musician and the song of the the Busso V6 on the track, or the backwoods roads, under full song rpm, is the greatest music of all to a car persons soul.

    • @studiocalder818
      @studiocalder818 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So you are one of the musicians who tunes the so called Arese's violin!

  • @brianaustin5467
    @brianaustin5467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have been driving my Busso engined 916 for 21 years. It is still an occasion every time.

  • @flyonbyya
    @flyonbyya 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When I lived in South Africa in 1984, my girlfriend had a new, 1984 Alfa Sprint. Though a 4 cylinder, it was surprisingly quick...very cool car !

  • @shawnmungur4875
    @shawnmungur4875 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally, someone shows the Busso some much deserved love!

  • @ThunderBassistJay
    @ThunderBassistJay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This Busso V6 was in my 3 liter Alfa 164. La mia bella macchina! 🧡

  • @stephenbello1081
    @stephenbello1081 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This brings back strong memories as I owned a 75 (MIlano) 2.5L 12V before moving on to a AW11 4age.

  • @WarSloop69
    @WarSloop69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this is by reallly far the best dedicated video of busso and alfa romeo video I ever see. congrats

  • @totih144
    @totih144 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I really appreciate that you put effort in saying the names in the right way. (BAD PUN ALERT)There's no replacement for pronunciatement

  • @ooohhenrybmblm
    @ooohhenrybmblm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    The Italians really are something else, let me just put it out there

  • @mykline1
    @mykline1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Worked on alfa engines in the mid 70's in Germany. and really liked the design of the engines.

  • @UzY3L
    @UzY3L 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Watching this while working on my Alfa Romeo 166 2.0 V6 turbo, one of the last and best Busso engines

    • @psk5746
      @psk5746 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Smaller bore or shorter stroke?

    • @UzY3L
      @UzY3L 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@psk5746 The 2L V6 has both. For the moment, no plans to bore it as it outputs 240HP as is. Lots of worn out parts though. Was never serviced and ran on shitty oil with broken MAF and O2 sensors so running rich all the time

    • @psk5746
      @psk5746 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UzY3L Interesting. Must be fun.
      If you put the biggest Bore (93mm) with the shortest Stroke (66.2mm) you get (I think) 2.7 ltrs. What a cracker of a motor that would be. It would rev is nuts off

  • @deusexaethera
    @deusexaethera 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I used to order foreign car brochures from Europe when I was a kid. Alfas were among the ones I requested. I always loved the way the Busso V6 looked.

  • @simonh870
    @simonh870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have been fortunate enough to own a few Busso engined cars. A couple of 164 v6's, a 156 v6 and GTV V6. The earlier 12 valve version in the 164 sounded best, the 2.5 24v lacked torque low down but was the smoothest and the 24v 3.0 performed the best. But I loved all of them.

  • @markstrohauer7871
    @markstrohauer7871 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love your videos and have learned a lot from you. I've had many Busso engines from 1959 on and did not realize it until getting my 164-S, back in '92. Thank you!

  • @paulakennedy2085
    @paulakennedy2085 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow ! That engine sound ! I'd forgotten just how awesome it was.

  • @markotrieste
    @markotrieste 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow. Just wow. Excellent video, well researched and with good italian pronunciation. I'm saying this as an italian engineer working in an engine factory, so no kidding here ;-)

  • @charleslowe522
    @charleslowe522 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The iconic engine series is one of the best on the tube for petroheads. Always enjoy the back story!

  • @jozsefizsak
    @jozsefizsak 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fun and fascinating as always. I'm glad you went with such a long video instead of struggling to fit it into a much shorter runtime. I know average people just tune out after 8 minutes but I never complain about having too much of a good thing!

  • @matteosardelli9502
    @matteosardelli9502 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Very good job with the Italian intro man 👍🏻👍🏻😂
    Btw the name "arese's violin" is because Arese is the town (next to Milan) where the Alfa Romeo factory was. Bow they actually built a massive shopping centre in its place but next to it there's an amazing Alfa Romeo museum with tons of historical cars and engines

  • @mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311
    @mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A really great video which strikes the perfect balance between education and entertainment - the jaunty, fluent and engaging, and bilingual, delivery (not to discount it doesn't hurt that our man is so easy on the eye...😏) - mean watching, learning, understanding

  • @MrLince-hr4of
    @MrLince-hr4of 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    love this motor ! the Alfa Romeo GTA 147 is still one of my favourite cars🤤

  • @TorqueAholic
    @TorqueAholic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great, comprehensive video. I remember running my dad's GTV-6 through the gears back in the 80's. It was a quick car for the time, a good handler with great steering feel and yeah: definitely one of the best sounding engines for sure.

  • @mikedstringer
    @mikedstringer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a brilliant video, thank you. Autodelta offered (and still do) a supercharger which has stood the test of time as an “off the shelf” form of forced induction.

  • @steveblottenberger1097
    @steveblottenberger1097 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You got my vote Steve from Annapolis you did a very good job narrating or explaining this engine keep up the good work I like your shows

  • @ravishkasilva9709
    @ravishkasilva9709 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Italians you have to love them for their style and passion.

  • @mattlowe9913
    @mattlowe9913 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Incredible video! I had a 1982 GTV-6 and regret getting rid of it every day. I recommend Volvo T-5 engine for a future “Iconic Engines” video. Another one of my favorites.

  • @CS_247
    @CS_247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a Busso in a GTV on Weber's, many years ago in South Africa. Best sounding engine I have ever owned. Loved it every time I drove it. Such a pity the Alfa fell apart around it. ..

  • @michaelisaacson9735
    @michaelisaacson9735 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My 1981 GTV-6 was a joy. Once the obligatory, two-piece head gasket failed and was replaced by an improved one-piece, the engine was bulletproof. Don't forget that before Reeves Callaway began producing twin-turbo Corvette engines, he used a Busso as a test engine. His engineers hooked one up on a stand and ran it hard, expecting it to break within two hours due to the pressures they were passing into it. It ran for two days until they gave up and stopped the test. Mine was without the chrome intake pipes but it was GLORIOUS! The car...not so much. I kept it outside and it got wet. Big mistake.

  • @MrAxel1666
    @MrAxel1666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Grazie per questo video, hai colto in pieno il significato e il valore di uno dei motori italiani Più amati. ❤️

  • @Snarge22
    @Snarge22 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    1982 GTV6 owner here.
    One thing I didn't know was that Giuseppe Busso was Alfa Romeo's chief engine engineer for so long. That is the Nord engine is his design as well. Glad he got to have his name on his last design.
    So, being a GTV6 owner my car started out with the 2.5L stock original engine. Very nice and smooth, if a bit weak. Later on I had the 3.0L SOHC version. Installed S-pistons and S-cams plus the later stronger 164S rocker arms. This configuration included opening up the intake runners and matching them to the cylinder head intake ports plus long-tube headers. Upon looking back this was the best configuration I had for that chassis. I currently have the 24v version with GTA cams and a slightly shaved cylinder head. Wow does that make my 2800 lb GTV6 haul a**! But, while great, the expense and work was greater than necessary, was too time consuming to get it all going, and honestly, the worked over 3.0L SOHC had plenty of power. That is, while my car is a lot more powerful, it isn't any more fun to drive than the earlier configuration. I don't have to shift down as much as I can just power through most all situations. To me high power can reduce driver engagement and that's where the fun is. So on these old GTV6s I recommend that middle ground power configuration and then just enjoy the wonderful sounds and high fun factor Alfa Romeo's or so well known for.

  • @KZiakas
    @KZiakas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just came back from a ride with my Alfa 147 GTA, and damn, every sentence of yours was so meaningful to me! Nice video!

  • @louvendran7273
    @louvendran7273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What a legend of an engine!

  • @NotThatBob
    @NotThatBob 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember the Busso V6. This video is a love story.

  • @TurboHappyCar
    @TurboHappyCar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another ICONIC video! Great job man. 👍 In the 'States, we don't hear too much about mid-tier Italian cars, so I definitely learned a lot. Thanks!

  • @cdmikelis
    @cdmikelis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very touching story of Busso. I had 2.0 T.B. and I still have factory restored 2.5 :)
    Busso engine is probably the best sounding V6 ever made on this planet. It's baritone sound of natural aspirated 2.5 or 3.0 is just amazing and forces driver to constantly accelerate. The driving in lightweight 155 with it is like driving diesel, no need to change gears, it just goes. While driving 2.0 TB, it's like rocket launcher after turbo kicks in. It's very low compressed engine, once turbo hose exploded, engine had less power than Fiat 600, barely drivable to the shop. Lastly, the engine had huge oil capacity and it cols down a long time. During winter a parked car would melt all the packed snow on driveway overnight. All I had to do, was parking slightly different every day, so I had cleaned snow/ice from all the yard in a week. :) But expensive to maintain, especially belt change :)

  • @Nyjawonder
    @Nyjawonder 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the early 90s I dreamed of having a 164 with this epic engine. Would likely have been a disaster but man I loved the clean lines of the 164. Thanks for the video. I almost clicked off after 5s but then saw the comments. Glad I stayed. Subscribed too. "Bella Italiano"

  • @martinneumann7783
    @martinneumann7783 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just discovered your channel recently (the 3 cylinder and the V6 cylinder stories). You're doing a good job. The videos are interesting, well narrated and funny; especially this one. It's a good mixture between technology and comedy. Grazie mille e saluti da Germania!

  • @Cheeky-fingers
    @Cheeky-fingers ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had the 156 and the 75 with this engine. Amazing sounds and desent power. Cosworth wanted to purchase it and the tooling after Alfa retired it. Alfa refused the purchase.

  • @Pulsarr1
    @Pulsarr1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely love these videos. Keep up the good work. I swear if you weren't on the other side of the world I would just give you the spare 3S-GTE I have in my garage to see what you would do with it.

  • @TheRealCoyote
    @TheRealCoyote 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I realize it is pretty much the anniversary of this fantastic video and nobody will read this :D But I will say it anyway: Great, informative video of an engine I really love. I had a 156 V6 and it drove and sounded glorious with just an aftermarket stainless exhaust. Now I have a Gtv V6 turbo, and while it "ticks" thanks to it's older valve train at idle, it otherwise sounds great and goes like the wind. Look after a Busso engine with maintenace schedule and good quality oil and it is bullet proof. Forza Alfa! Forza Busso"

    • @d4a
      @d4a  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I read it 😊 Forza Alfa!

    • @TheRealCoyote
      @TheRealCoyote 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@d4a You made my day😊 Keep up the good work with your videos! I'm learning a lot. And I like your sense of humor too!

  • @hotatuning2498
    @hotatuning2498 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Bravo maestro!!!
    Buso best engine for ever!!

  • @e36s50b30
    @e36s50b30 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow!
    What a great find!
    But remember the Mezger.
    Not officially named as that but nonetheless very well known as that.

  • @jeffgreenrgv
    @jeffgreenrgv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Owned a 156 2.5 V6, fitted a 166 3.0 engine in it, GTA cams, skimmed heads, balanced crank, lightened flywheel, decat, open silencer etc etc, sounded very mellow, rumbled around like a V8 at low rpm and screamed like a V12 at high rpm. The best car I have ever owned, not the fastest, but the engine had true soul, it sounded beautiful with looks to match. I miss it greatly.

  • @andrasjuhasz7011
    @andrasjuhasz7011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    18:57 part-hemi is actually a pretty good combustion chamber shape for 2valve/cyl engines. Pentroof is mostly for 4valve/cyl engines because is allows for bigger valves and parallel valve guides that saves a lot of headaches for cam to valve connections. For 2 valves it doesn't really have any advantages though.

  • @guloguloguy
    @guloguloguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WOW!!!! THANK YOU, FOR THIS INCREDIBLY IMPRESSIVE, DETAILED, AND FASCINATING LOOK INTO ANOTHER LINEAGE OF AMAZING ENGINES, AND HISTORICAL DETAILS!!! YOUR VIDEOS ARE ABSOLUTELY AMAZING, AND INPRESSIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @sergeanthorvath
    @sergeanthorvath 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A very detailed history and discussion of tuning potential of these great engines. Grazie Mille.

  • @Jabber-ig3iw
    @Jabber-ig3iw ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a 166 with a 3 litre Busso. Glorious car, glorious engine.

  • @JoseRivera-ym3wj
    @JoseRivera-ym3wj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great to see the Iconic Engine series back. And with the striking Busso, no less.
    Not long ago, on the Donut Media channel, they had a video about kit cars. One of them was designed to fit a Busso engine in it, besides other options. The other engines are great, but one has to go Busso just because.

  • @hdrenginedevelopment7507
    @hdrenginedevelopment7507 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Busso V6 is pretty rare in the US, but one engine that has a lot of similarities to, is very plentiful, and I think underrated V6 platform here in the US...the Hyundai G6BA Delta. They are also a very undersquare DOHC cam on hydraulic bucket lifter aluminum 60° even fire V6, but also with closed deck, 4 bolt mains, ladder frame reinforcing girdle, very simple reliable easy maintenance and very easy to find in scrap yards and buy parts for. They are a bit unremarkable in stock form and were used in mostly pretty unremarkable vehicles, but with a lot of work, money, and tuning thrown at it, it yields nearly as glorious a result in sound and power output...at least I have thoroughly enjoyed my build, and the Tiburon chassis has a decent enough driving dynamic to be able to enjoy it. Mine is making in the neighborhood of 240 hp NA in the ~7500 rpm range without anything super crazy done to it. It’s hard to find a good compact oversquare V6 platform. Not a lot of manufacturers went that route, and virtually nobody is nowadays....all super long stroke 4 cylinders anymore.

  • @TheGinger1
    @TheGinger1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great playlist. I've worked my way through everyone. I think you've struck the perfect balance of dry geeky numbers and humour. Great work. I assume you're going to do one on the RB (too obvious to leave out). While the tuning segment might not be that deep, the Bizzarrini V12 has to be classed as an iconic engine given how long it remained in production.

  • @dynamitedavies
    @dynamitedavies 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've got a 916 GTV V6, the throttle response is like a 2 stroke chainsaw, instant power but revs all the way to the limiter with ease. Such a smooth engine that's eger to perform

  • @mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311
    @mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A really great video which strikes the perfect balance between education and entertainment - the jaunty, fluent and engaging, and bilingual, delivery (not to discount it doesn't hurt that our man is so easy on the eye...😏) - mean learning and understanding fairly complex engineering principles becomes part of a wider and even more colourful context. It wouldn't surprise me if he gets an approach from the BBC to do a motoring/historical/technical documentary for them, such is the quality I witnessed here!🥰

  • @were562
    @were562 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I managed to score a 3.0 milano (75) verde from an retired math teacher hippie in oregon 4 years ago. Paid 2000 usd and drove it back to Canada. Owner was an Interesting Guy and had a great trip, not to mention i now own an amazing car. Good memories.

  • @mateusmorais1185
    @mateusmorais1185 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Alfa 156 GTA is simply one of the most beautiful sedans ever produced. It lives up to the roar of the V6 that drives it... Unfortunately, it's a distant dream. :(

  • @DentfreeEurope
    @DentfreeEurope ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great info, I must say, that's not a bad accent, and you put a smile on my face, you have a good way of being funny😁. Cheers ! 🤜🤛

  • @alexio5498
    @alexio5498 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm literally watching from Turin that video excite me so much

  • @antoniomaglione4101
    @antoniomaglione4101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You know about oil change in Busso engines. It took eight liters of lubricant oil... It was used for cooling.
    As a kid, I was shuttled around in a Giulietta.
    The Giulia was used by police. Road tax was excessive for a family.
    I agree that front wheel drive is "bad".
    The timing chain required adjustments too often... and was noisy.
    Alfa Romeo owners were known to kill their engines with a few show-offs to friends on the motorway.
    Thanks for the video...

  • @FieryWings01
    @FieryWings01 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Personally owned and daily drove a 2004 147GTA with Q2 diff and upgraded intake setup pushing over 250 italian ponies with the selespeed 2.0 transmission which worked well when properly taken care of. Was a stunning car to drive and loved the sound of that engine especially when I opened that throttle up! Have a number of people a surprise when accelerating from the traffic lights ✅

  • @gregorystidsen8910
    @gregorystidsen8910 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really informative and entertaining video - especially the rap at the end! Not mentioned was the Calloway Twin Turbo conversions done here in the USA with factory blessing. This was offered on the 2.5 GTV6 and produced 230hp I think less than 100 were produced. I have a 164Q with the 3.0 24V which is just fabulous car.

  • @eTiMaGo
    @eTiMaGo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    bellissimo! I'd heard a lot about this engine, but never knew much about it... Just the polished intake runners :D

    • @d4a
      @d4a  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Everyone knows those! I knew them as a kid and thought the car had like a million horsepower because of them 😂

  • @markbowden7238
    @markbowden7238 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I noticed this is the only Italian engine you've covered to date and that the majority of the engines you HAVE covered, are 4-cylinder and Japanese.
    Personally, Italian 4-cylinder engines are my favourite.
    The all aluminium Alfa twin cam
    The Fiat / Lancia sohc & dohc iron-block.
    The Alfa flat four.

  • @lillyalriachy3357
    @lillyalriachy3357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for another amazing video. Can you make an Iconic Engines video on Porsche's 4.0 flat 6 that they have been using in the 991 gt3/gt3rs and the current gt3 in addition to their cup cars.

  • @kaisertrinityt.m.i.s1607
    @kaisertrinityt.m.i.s1607 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    11:50 oh my gosh that engine bay. so tight in there. it looks like the bays from Jaguars XJS V12 coupes from the 80s

  • @gtv6chuck
    @gtv6chuck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I learned so much about my engine - thanks! I'll be taking out my 3 liter swapped GTV6 out this weekend. By the way, if you want to find out about turbocharging the Busso, maybe talk to Callaway, since they made a few twin turbos back in the day.

  • @Roarman57
    @Roarman57 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pure awesomeness!
    thanks for another informative and entertaining video!

  • @klausstock8020
    @klausstock8020 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember the engine from the first-series Alfa 6.
    The first-series Alfa 6 was, and still is, the fastest Alfa Romeo in history. It would go from zero to complete rust bucket in four years. After four years, it received a "keyless entry upgrade" - the rust holes in the body were so large already that the locks were no held in place; you could just punch them and they would open.
    Wonderful engine, never screamed, just conveyed the confident voice of authority.
    Everything electrical in the car failed. Including simple wires. I had the gut feeling that the alternator change intervals were shorter than the oil change intervals.
    To get the engine's power to the street, the Alfa 6 had rear-wheel drive which came with a 25% limited slip differential as a standard. If you asked for power, you got it. Immediately.
    The speedometer always broke. Warranty repair, all the time, unless you got tired of your Alfa 6 spending more time getting repaired than being on the road. So wtf, who needs a speedometer anyway? Of course, that also meant that the odometer wouldn't work...but engine life was a non-issue, and the rust holes were blatantly obvious.
    I had, in the last few years, always wondered whether my admiration of the engine was just me, glorifying the past like so many old people, or whether is was really that smooth and responsive. Yes, it wasn't me; this video confirmed it.
    That was the Alfa Rome I had ever sat in. Quality was so ridiculously low that many Alfa Romeo fans ceased to be fans and went to other brands.
    Seven first-series Alfa 6 were modified for the US American market. They went to the junk yard right away.
    A few years ago, I saw an Alfa 6, second series, with the 2.0 liter engine, in perfect condition. That was a Wednesday. July 17th, 2019, around 7pm, near Frankfurt am Main. I ran around the parked Alfa 6, dumbfounded. No rust! How is that possible! BTW, one out of 1771 ever built. Much rarer than, like, a Ferrari Testarossa.
    And nowadays Alfa Romeo is running ads on the radio. "You can get an Alfa Rome out of Italy, but you can't get Italy out of an Alfa Romes." Ouch. In 2003, I wrote a piece of software for a large car manufacturer. They also had a division which made Italian sports cars (no, it was not Fiat), and they transported the raw car bodies to Germany, to have them pained there. Apparently, more than 20 years after i had experienced the Alfa 6 debacle, Italian cars still had rust issues. The software allowed the Italian car bodies to run through the paint shop, but to be redirected from the conveyor belt to a "side exit." Yup, made no sense to send Lamborghini bodies onto an Audi A6 assembly line. So, if Alfa Romes still can't the "Italy" out of their cars....thanks, no, I'll pass.
    Still, the engine...
    Okay, 18 liters per 100km in real life (Alfa Romeo claimed 15l/100km). Still more fuel-efficient than some other performance cars of that era. Like Porsches.

  • @Emilgreen91
    @Emilgreen91 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video!
    Keep up the great work!
    Tip for another video. Volvo T5
    1992-2009. Great tuner engine with some history.

  • @bradyelich2745
    @bradyelich2745 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:59 I already spilled beer on my keyboard, now I am spitting it out onto my keyboard.

  • @phamnuwen9442
    @phamnuwen9442 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very entertaining video. My dad had no less than three Alfa 164 3,0 in the 90s, in large part due to this glorious engine. The only major problem I think was the camshaft pulleys which were just press fitted and could come loose leading to a piston-valve collision. Apart from this, amazing engine!
    Grazie mille, Giuseppe!

  • @dougtond1380
    @dougtond1380 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I once hitched a ride from LA to Sacramento in a gtv6. It was pretty sweet

  •  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had three versions of this engine, 3.0 / 12 valve on a 164s. A 3.0 / 24 valve on a 164 QV and the last version 3.2 / 24 valve 250 hp on a 156 GTA wich I still have among a NEW 3.2 engine on a box imported from Italy when Arese plant closed.

  • @ysceifiog
    @ysceifiog 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    truly gifted delivery - no script or prompt.?? .what I also really like excellent content aside is the complete lack of unnecessary punctuation - no, ' you knows' or 'yeahs' ..content is excellent .. did I say that?