GTA 6? Alfa GTA 147 vs FloorMat vs Crazy Traffic! // Nürburgring
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Disclaimer: the actions performed in this video are executed by professionals or individuals that consider themselves professional on a closed circuit within the local regulations.
00:00 Intro/Specs
02:17 Lap
09:01 Thoughts - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
I am italian, i am 47 now . When i was in my 20's i did not understand Alfa cars . Now, with a bit more experience and having had some experience with cars too, i have to say that i think this car will be a collectors car soon . Of course 90% of the reason would be the engine . But the look also grew up on me throught the years .
Yep, 48 and now own a Stelvio Quad, but I also did have a 2L spider in my 20's, which I sold for a s2000.
I’m Icelandic and saw Alfa Romeo the first time at 19 ,I’m in my fifties ,and my live changed .
i have had 5 alfas ) last one a year 2000 alfa gtv 3.0 v6 doubled in value in 4 years)
im in my 20's and I want all Alfa Romeos possible, to me this is the most pasionate and 'soulful' brand
I bet you do . If i was rich, i think i would have no doubt to put a Giulia Quadrifoglio in my garage , plus a 8C and a 4C . That would be quite nice .@@ionutbagmuianu884
Beautiful sound! Those percussive shifts and naturally aspirated roar are disappearing in modern cars. I have an NB2 Miata with intake and exhaust and while it's far from a fast car, it SOUNDS fast like this one does and, like Misha often says, it has emotion and it's the most fun I've had in 30 years of driving. Thanks for the vid!
Nb2 miata is always the answer!
That engine note reminds me of ford/jaguars duratec 30/aj30 v6 but lacks jaguar's refinement..
One of the best FWD, with timeless design and awesome sound from Busso V6. Finally on channel!🤩
3:00 love the Misha signature "Get this floor matt outta here!" move looool
ft. unsecured items flying around in the boot of my car
its a genuine Problem on our 147 too, the mat can get stuck under the Accelerator when your feet push them forward. normally they are clipped in place but those clips break with time.
Alfa Romeo 147 was my first car! I still remember the smell inside that car. Nice lap Misha. Thank you for bringing back some old memories!
I had an Alfa GT 3.2 busso, I regret selling it, and that sound just brings a smile to my face, such great memories. But, kids, life, fuel, it wasn’t a good daily anymore, but I miss it, I’ll probably have another busso in the future (maybe 156) for the weekends.
all Alfa smells same inside, if I remember
@@grastmastit’s because women can’t help them selves when they are inside an alfa
@@danisantabarbara5931same but i had a 147 gta
Italian cars are the most beautiful cars in the world. They are so so sexy. I`m driving a 147 GTA too as an daily driver. Well, this car is this kind of " hey, there`s one problem each day "...but i love this car so so much. I know, there are many many other new cars which are way much faster. But the sound and the feeling of this old V6 Busso engine is pure joy.
One of the greatst engine ever build !!!❤❤❤❤ Bella italia
Has it been reliable as a daily? Considering getting one
This video has made me REALLY miss my 147 GTA! With a few more mods these can be absolutely dialled in to drive! Highly recommend the short shift kit to help with the wobbly gear stick...! The sound is addictive ! Great lap as always Misha!!
Now I need to see a well tuned version of it :) with the roll bars, nicer coilovers, quaiffe diff, really good tyres, some powerplex bushings, and maybe even more power :D Really wanted to see Misha taking out everything from this particular car, and make it "fly"
You can find it on TH-cam . Search for Davide Cironi 147 gta . Unfortunately for you is all in Italian but you will get subtitles and beautiful scenery if Italian roads and amazing sound of the modified exhaust plus diff and other small touches . But as I said in a comment above if I owned one now I would not tune it as I think it will be a collectors car soon .
The equal length exhaust is epic
th-cam.com/video/rt8nYK-gMNw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=bC5Wa6QFlAFiIjGg
@@albertobenellilinked that vid below
And maybe with a 3.7 or 3.8 conversation
This goes on to show that the Top Gear episode was greatly exaggerated (as it should be since it’s entertainment).
The GTAs had some improvements that went beyond the bigger engine. Wider track with specific panels, control arms and dampers, tighter steering rack, oil cooler and an entirely revised rear suspension with modified anchor points.
While Alfa should have made the Q2 differential standard, the tipo II rev 3 platform was very refined for its segment and not a cheap Fiat as we were led to believe.
Its a lovely chassis, but you can achieve the same handling without as much complexity, but its still a riot to drive and looks really composed.
2:34 insisting on the left lane with a stock fiesta is pretty ballsy... :D
#Facts
missed opportunity to fit in with Gen Z crowd by saying "Alfa Romeo Bussin"
Thank god for that
Bussin Busso
What does that even mean 🤣🤣
@@lilyeet1980ligma
@@lilyeet1980 GenZ here, it does seem to be "bussin"
Great NA V6 👌❤
Handling surprised me - way less understeer than I would have expected with a severe front weight bias that was yet worsened by two people in front and rear seat delete. Barely any torquesteer either - does it have an LSD?
6:04 well that's how you actually set up a FWD - front axle softer for increased grip, rear axle stiffer for less grip, to make the car turn easier under braking and acceleration.
my gt busso handles bett than this one, it has lsd fitted..it transforms the car
yeah, there's a lot you can do in order to mitigate unequal weight distribution, in an well set up FWD car some things may seem counter-intuitive (like you mentioned softer front than rear, or rear anti-roll bar so stiff that the car tripods around the corners), but they help a lot to get rid of the understeer.
The 147 have proper double wishbone suspension on the rear and multilink on the rear which provides passive steering . It is a really good platform for a track oriented tune or just an enjoyable FWD
@@takao4491GTV have Multilink on the rear. 147, 156 and GT have Mcpherson on the rear.
@@Jack-cv4ke No the 147, 156 and GT have multilink rear just less complex and less passive steer effect than GTV. GTV suffers considerably for not being double wishbone.
My friend has a black one with 280hp, it sounds great and looks even better... At car meetings and events people look at it like a Ferrari, nowadays it's very very rare also here in Italy...
Nowadays if a car designer put a 3.2 V6 engine in a such small hot hatch instead of a 3 cylinders somebody put him into the jail 😂
They're actually more rare than a lot of Ferrari's. Was just over 5000 147 GTAs made in total and no doubt many no longer exist as they've been crashed
@@nickfoster8253in Britain they have a registry where you can look up how many are left - perhaps you know it. I believe I read in a forum post once that GTAs have a 50-60% ‘survival rate’, while the regular models do something like 20-30%. Compared to collector cars like Ferraris, they do 80-90%. So quite OK for the GTA, but still like you said increasingly rare compared to Ferraris.
Owned the 156 with Busso Engine and this Engine was amazing. The whole Alfa Romeo feeling was special and you had a smile on your face every day when driving this beauty. But to be honest it was not the fastest car nor the best handling. It was beautiful to enjoy, something Alfa Romeo really did an amazing job. Now I own an Mitsubishi Evo 8. The car is so much faster but the engine has less emotions than the busso engine and it is more focused on being fast than enjoying all emotions. I would buy an 156 GTA again ❤ the 147 is amazing too
Very sweet, I would like to see a drive in Alfa 75! Please 🍻
2:38, i was right behind you on the 230i, that fiesta kept blocking the left line until sabine's corner, me a porsche and an audi honked for few seconds but he didnt want to move. I think this folk was quite confused
sounds a bit scary 😅
somebody give this guy a tuned giulietta QV
I’ve got a 31bhp one it’s my third, brilliant cars
Can’t get enough of Alpha on the channel! Please give us more 😅 getting addicted in here
I haven’t seen a Misha driving it like he stole it lap for a long time! It’s something about the way a FWD can be thrown about that makes it so exciting, I do love a GTA and this proves why.
Probably my favourite fwd. And what a beautiful noise. I would love to hear an acceleration video from outside the car
La meccanica delle emozioni
So good to see this powerful 'little" machine on the track. Insane exhaust sound, reaching top speeds in a blink of an eye. Gotta love the Alfa GTA 147 😎
As a driver, I think we're still missing a Tipo 940 Giulietta QV. Not as lovely as the V6 Alfas but there should be tuning potential with a modern turbo R4, and these were even racing as a touring car. I can't help out because mine is just the a diesel with energy saver Pirellis. 😅
And one with different suspension/alignment. The stock one on the QV or Veloce isn't that great for track use.
@@EndlessVoid98agreed, I have supposedly the most sporty version at the time of sale, the cloverleaf, I wouldn’t really call it a hot hatch even though it’s a decent bit faster than a few of its competitors, including the mk7 GTI, it’s more a GT hatch, massive fuel tank for its class and very soft suspension
Oh come on, you're saying that as if seeing him throw around a diesel Alfa wouldn't be massively fun
@@tiagobelo4965 Well, it would be a mess of squealing tires and a loooong uphill section. I'd rather lap the Ring on my road bike if I ever take a trip, there.
Lovely to see a lot of Alfa content recently! They don’t generally get a lot love which is a shame imo. Would absolutely a 147GTA but I don’t think it would be enough of a step up from my 1750 giulietta sadly
I own a 147 GTA and a Giulietta QV. Similar in power but the GTA just absolutely trounces the Giulietta in most areas (definitely not fuel economy though 😂). The NA low down power delivery makes the biggest difference and its the thing I notice most when I hop between cars. 1750's have a LOT of turbo lag
Old "giulietta" (properly known as the 105 series GT) or new giulietta, because those are two very different beasts
@@nickfoster8253 yeah the suspension setup on a 147/156/GT is far superior to that of a giulietta
@@tiagobelo4965 940 but why not both haha
@@dylanwakley2553having sold a GQV for a GTA I can tell you it is very much a step up.
And that's just performance, its also a far more special machine and really does make you tingle when you drive it.
Definitely worth trying one and seeing how it makes you feel.
Running costs (maintenance and repairs more than anything) really do sting though.
Waow, awesome rev limiter sound too! I didn't expect that. Amazing.
Not a turbo car so it's not that fast in compare with others but still has a good acceleration too
Misha great lap. I also have a 147 and the floor mats are the most annoying thing, so when I saw you toss the mat I was laughing!
Finally decided to subscribe cause of all the Alfa Romeo videos you guys have been producing
"one of the most beautiful engines" - Doesn't show us 😔😢
I was annoyed too when I was editing it
Busso❤
I remember 20y ago driving one 147 2.0 petrol and the brake pedal felt pretty much the same. It was very weird first experience.
Awesome, sounded like a lot of fun. An NA V6 that likes to rev.
love🤍car + color 🧡 and rear cam = perfect video !
Drove one a few years ago and the pedals are really close together.. legs for days but I wasn't blown away by it.
Quite funny, because the rear facing GoPro is tilted towards the ground, you can see the skid marks through some corners haha! Amazing car btw :D Love these Alfa's!
That's actually really cool
Oil temperature is ok, no problem for reach 4 bars at track, keep pushing!!
Love my 147, can't wait for summer!
Looked like a bit of an understeery handful !!
Sounded great, not that fast but a lot of fun for sure.
Great to see alfa on your channel. Next time i come to the ring your can try mine, which is a step further in track focus tuning (kw v3, quaife, yoko a052, rollcage...)
th-cam.com/video/Q4zInJQsjSg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=lRItuegss72kFPSb
Finally Alfa 147 and its even GTA! 🤩
PS. Misha feel free to try 147 2.0ts i know its smaller engine but still fun and I would like to see how it goes on the nurburgring, because i jave the same alfa
The engine sound is something unreal! Great car, nice lap
Great content as always! Although I'd have two advice, first to include accelerometer and second to give some kind of personal experience in terms of comparing, f.e. this 147 GTA to GTV 6 or so..
On the way to the ring he crossed the 123456 miles on his odometer. I hope he got a picture.
Love the video and makes me miss my 147 GTA i had for 7 years. Including the cropping up floormat problem.
I was waiting for this car for long time. Tnx Misha
7/10 lap, there is good amount potential in it left :)
Great V6 sounds. Way better than my VQ.
I love the red g-force indicator in the back view ;)
Oh and the engine noise made my ears come twice :P
Very analog indeed😁
Delightful car, very nicely driven, hoping to bring my 147 GTA over this summer.
Pretty impressive for a V6 and sounds really good too.
Enfiiiin une 147 GTA ! Super content de voir cette marque italienne 🍀🐍❤
Clairement y en souvent quand meme😉
quaife differential would be nice, I heard
The first thing u have to change in this car is adding a self-locking differential for better traction in the curves
Tbh rearview camera as a backup for feetcam™ is a quite good idea
My 147 GTA has the front and rear stabiliser bars installed which I found to improve handling a lot, does this car have the front bar installed? Should have shown a video of under the bonnet!
Thank you Misha for more Alfas! Such amazing cars
floormat delete function looks good 🤣🤣
Sounds great! Sound is so an important thing in cars for me
Finally a proper Alfa as people were saying under a video with my shitbox. Great car and noise, Misha was quiet which probably means he was enjoying the ride. Cheers!
The title of the video is brilliant🤣🤣🤣
That noise. Sounds like the original getaway in Stockholm inside the porsche !
Me encanta ese coche desde siempre me gustó cuando salió fue un espectáculo
i be waiting for this for a long Time !!! Dream Car !!
Bravo on the title.
Know a guy who had one identical to this, down to the custom exhaust. Sold it before leaving the country a few years back, wonder if it's the same one.
Ho avuto una 147 per 16 anni. Macchina eccezionale! Sospensioni anteriori a quadrilatero... come poche! Tenuta da paura! Non aveva neanche l'ESP (VDC) ma non mi ha mai messo in difficoltà!
You know if misha takes your car. You must have upgrade the cooling✌🏻🇳🇱
Misha, please admit, you really enjoyed every single Alfa you were driving! I see that on every video..... I think hardly something can bring that kind of smile on the face! U r proper petrol head! Especially what u told after that green QV Giulia you were nailin.... Cap down with huge respect!!!!
Good to see Ruski car out there. He is a great fella!
Oh Yes Another Alfa!
hope to see square headlight saloon Alfetta 2.0 some day (my dream car) GTV would be grate to! thank you.
Great vid - youtube needs much more Alfa GTA Content! Like many have said these cars are underappreciated
I love the sound :)
The anticipation for this game tho
Love the car. Hate the opposite side driving position and mph main dial.
Gotta love being able to turn of traction,but not stability :/ ruins a lot of snow fun possibilities.
When you ask people about their dream cars, they usually respond wiht something like Ferrari Enzo, Lamborghini Countach, Porsche 911... Well, I can genuinely say the 147 GTA has been my dream car for many years - those teledial rims fitted under those perfect lines... paired with arguably the best sounding v6 ever made. Their price already started to skyrocet so better grab one while you can!
Finally my favorite one :D
3:24 jeesh that Bird needs to visit a doctor there's clearly blood in its poop. xD
Front facing camera position 👍👍
There is an old video (I guess it was 10 years ago added) with title something like busso tribute with even older italian song mixed with this gorgeous v6 sound. I recommend everyone to check this after this video :D Essence of italian engines
Edit. I found it - this is title " Alfa Romeo Busso GTA 3.2 V6 SOUND TRIBUTE , Meravigliosa Creatura Wonderful Creature "
Che capolavoro Il violino di Arese!!!!
Love this alfa v6 sound😋😋
Love to see a nice alfa 👌
I miss that weather.
Very responsive engine, sounds great, very cool car imo!
Bird poop or something on windshield at 3:25
LMFAO 🤣
What a crazy car, 20 years old now and rapid and I imagine scary AF. Handling actually looks great
Good video
A proper hot hat from the 2000s. You won't see a v6 in a car of this size ever again.
Cuore sportivo ♥
very addictive sounds
Busso 3.2 !
Is that the ALL wheel drive or Front wheel drive only?
Beautiful car which sounds glorious and a great driver. I’ve got my GTA up for sale but after watching that I’m thinking it’ll be a mistake looks n sounds like nothing else
Keep it in the garage! You won’t lose any money even if you use it
@@dylanwakley2553only the running costs😀
Does anyone know how can I get this wonderful man to take my car and I for a spin around the Nurburgring?
My 1 year old daughter is obsessed with you she absolutely loves your show
Misha got the early access to GTA 147 no way
Veramente bellissima, ma potreste girare in pista con un'Alfa 146 preparata? Mi sono iscritto al canale 😊
Amazing V6, how can you not like a v6. My sister and i need to bring our cars to you. one day it will happen a 500whp speed 3 mine :D and a tastefully modified honda prelude; my sisters, a c6 corvette as well all manual all fun! Cant wait because I seriously want to make it happen (wont be anytime soon but mark my words :D)
These are so much better with Alfa's own Q2 diff or a Quafie diff.
I’ve heard the quaife upgrade is starting to actually be a cheaper option to the Q2 even though it’s arguably a bit better
I apologize for bringing up an old subject... but, why does the ring ban wreck footage? I understand privacy (blurring details is good), but I learned a lot by watching hundreds of wrecks. I learned to not "send it" as an amateur to lapping the ring the first time. Respect for the whole track, but especially the trouble corners that see the majority of wrecks. I had a healthy fear of them.
3:24 rip bug 😢