Engraving Ceramic Tile Simple and Easy
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ย. 2021
- Easy step by step process to successfully laser engrave on ceramic tile with a blue diode laser.
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Thank you! Very cool! Best regards from Russia!
You are very welcome. Thank you for watching.
Thank you Paw Paw! Great information indeed.
Me encantan tus trabajos e ideas
Thank you so much! I'm going to use this for marking tiles as part of an art project, and really appreciate this straightforward resource!
Can't wait to try something like this. Great job and project.
Thank you. It’s a great project
you are very good ... thanks for the information....
Thanks and welcome
Excellent work sir. I’ve been waiting for this and once again it was worth the wait. Thanks 👍🏻
You’re welcome. I’m glad that it helped you
@@PawPawsWorkShop I’m still having sooooo much trouble though trying to get a decent photo on a tile. I think I could have probably decorated a bathroom the tiles I’ve gone through 😂
Great Video. Quick and to the point.
Thank you
This is the most exciting thing I've seen in a while. Very nice.
Thank you very much
Thank you for sharing your wisdom
My pleasure
Looks awesome. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience.
My pleasure! Thanks for watching
Great video, all your videos are great. You explain things well. Thanks
Thank you very much. I appreciate your comments. I’m very happy that the videos has helped you
Watching the signs as I go. You're sure one top-shelf artisan! 💯
Thank you very much
Papa, thank you for teaching me how to engrave on ceramic tiles. Couldn’t get mine to work so now I can’t wait! Thank you again!
You’re very welcome. Have fun with your projects
Beautiful work!! and great vid!
Thank you very much
Such a great tip. Thank you!
Thank you
Your videos are fantastics! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🇧🇷
Thank you very much
Very informative, thank you for posting 👍
Thank you very much
Great idea, will give it a go when I get time
Great
I am sooo happy you showed the can of paint! I didnt know whether to use flat or gloss! Fantastic and Thank you for showing us all
You are so welcome!
Thank you for showing the metric speeds
Thanks
Completely Outstanding!!
Thank you very much
@@PawPawsWorkShop Thanks to your video I bought a Ortur Laser Master 2 last night and I am heading to Home Depot this afternoon! 100%!!!
You have so many ideas.
Thank you very much.
Great idea! Thanks!
Thank you
That is awesome work!
Thank you! Cheers!
I really like this video, Thank you
My pleasure. I’m glad it helped you. Thanks for watching
🔥 great work. thank you for fixing that S that just looked horrible.
My pleasure. Yes it had to be fixed
Thanks for the helpful information
My pleasure. Glad it helped you
Another great job.
Thank you very much and thank you for watching
Looks great! I’m gonna have to try this with my jtech
You should! Let me know the results.
Nice work on this. I have been doing this and similar processes on tiles for a while now. More recently, I have been working with colored paints and multiple layers. Some of the results have turned out very nice. Keep up the great work.
Awesome
very nice! Ciao from Italy!
Thank you very much for Louisiana
Greetings from germany, thx for this video. I have the F1 from xtool. I will try to engrave acrylic.
Awesome! Best of success. Thanks for watching
Thank you
You’re welcome
Great Video!! thank you!!!
You’re very welcome. Thank you for watching
The lighter S was the first thing engraved, often laser engraver have heat issues where the laser puts out lower laser power until it warms up.
The result is that the start of the engraving is dodgy.
One solution is to do a small throw-away engraving immediately before the main engraving, so the laser is properly hot when the main engraving starts.
Another solution is to check and adjust/repair the electronic laser driver, and I remember one case of this working well with a 40w tube laser.
So it's a warm-up issue. Hope that helps. 🙂
Thank you
Great job!
Thanks!
Thank you for your video's ! In this video I learned that to convert mm to inches and vice versa when setting the speed using lightburn , you just go to the setting box and select the opposite of what your using for speed and go back to your work and it shows what the number is ether way . Thanks I have been wanting that information . This will make it so when other people post there setting you can easily see what they are as per the settings you use. Keep up the good work !
Thank you very much
I'd prefer to be given settings in millimetres.
As many others here have said THANK YOU SIR for taking time to help noobies like me get started in this fantastic hobby.! The compass tile you did in this video is a true work of art! Thank you once again for sharing!
Thank you very much. It is my pleasure to do the videos and I’m happy that it helped you
@@PawPawsWorkShop
Hi there. How are you?
The laser used was a Diode type?
Thanks.
I hear what you're saying but I usually reserve the term "work of art" for something that's made by hand using hand tools. They can be electric, but hand tools all the same. Sometimes the Art comes from the difficulty of the project. Laser cutting is not difficult at all. Grandmother's do it. I'm a traditional woodworker and Craftsman, but I also use laser engravers, and I consider the two things entirely different.
Having said that, can you make art with a laser engraver. Yes you can. But that art comes from the designing. A simple compass like this laser etched on a tile (while cool) doesn't qualify.
I think if you asked most craftsmen who also use laser engravers they would agree. The only people that think they're making art with CNC machines are people that have no real skills, or real artist that can design extremely detailed and intricate designs.
This is in no way a criticism of this channel. Just as someone who's been an artist for 30 years now I want to make sure we differentiate between the two, before real Art is lost. We are already on the edge of that cliff.
Great job 👍
Thanks 👍
Thank you very much for the video, this method is a very interesting and unexpected solution!I am happy to subscribe to your channel and look forward to new works!You are a very smart and creative person, a friendly greeting from a simple person from Russia!
Thanks and welcome. I appreciate you watching my videos.
@@PawPawsWorkShop thanks
Very nice tutorial. Short and easy to understand. Would you use a different color paint if you used a different colored tile?
I had added a comment about why you use paint but, I started looking at the other comments and saw it had been asked and answered.
What would the tile look like if you did not use any paint.
Would it just stay white or would you still get a black engraving but just be much lighter.
I would love to see a video of something simple engraved on tile without any paint just to see what it looks like.
Thanks and great video.
I think it’s great, keep it up.
Thank you very much
Hi great video i did one tile using the same spray, which come out lovely and dark nice deep engrave then i did another but it come out grey not dark as previous you can still feel the embossing the same depth into the tile, have i over or under sprayed the paint or not let it dry long enough im puzzled same exact settings were used on both my tiles
I’ve found after cleaning mirrors and adjusting any to center. If still lighter on one end the height maybe needed adjustment so I made fully adjustable bed on all corners. But now that I write this sounds like you got it lol nice video by the way keep it up
Thank you very much for the info
Paw Paw I found out what I did wrong. Testing a new tile and so so good!!
Awesome
I gave this a try and was surprised at the outcome. I took a photo ran it through a sketch app, then loaded into Lightburn. I like it better than painting the tile black then lasering. Thanks
My pleasure. Thanks for watching and letting me know how your project turned out
Good job bro, appreciated in 2023 :)
Thank you
I have no idea why TH-cam suggested this video to me but I'm sure glad it did. +1 Sub
Thank you very much. Welcome to the channel
Hi Paw. I'm one of your biggest fans/students. When it comes to laser engraving, i can learn easiest from your videos rather than others. Was just wondering, have you ever done a video on photo engraving? If so would you mind sharing? I'm anxious to try on painted tile or canvas but don't know where to begin. I have 40 watt diode. So when I follow your settings everything is spot on. Thank you for sharing and all you have helped me with. Larry
Thank you so very much. I appreciate your support and I am very pleased that you are able to learn from my videos. I have not done any photo engraving yet. I plan on doing some soon. I plan on doing the images on wood and on canvas.
I suspect the "lighter S" is due to the tile not being uniformly "flat" edge-to-edge, corner-to-corner.
Very cool ... thanks for sharing.
That area was completely flat. Thanks for watching
awesome
Thank you
I have done several of these. If you paint the tile red and then laser it or black, they really look sharp. Good work.
Awesome, thanks for the tips.
Laser it or Black?...what does or mean?...Thanks
Great video.
How much time to finished?
Great video and I've watched it many times... is your video speed raised? My laser is going super slow compared to yours... how long did it take?
Possibility for the bottom of the S is that the laser has not fully started to fire. Often have to run a quick small file to get the laser fully firing before running any work files when starting the laser for the first run of the day.
Great information. Thank you
I looked up the laser diode in the video and the specs say "operating range 40-75'C", so the problem is almost definitely a warm up issue and can be worked around as you suggested. I googled around and found a PhD thesis "A novel laser diode wavelength stabilisation technique..." by Abdullah Asmari. The thesis claimed wavelength is dependent on temperature (due to thermal expansion of the relevant micro geometries), and so initially poor engraving action could be due to an unsuitable wavelength at ambient temperatures. However, it's also quite possible that the 40'C minimum temperature marks the lowest input value of the control algorithm that produces normal power outputs. It should be possible to develop experiment tests to determine whether the wavelength or control system effect is the main contributor
I may give the Tempera paint a shot in my sprayer to see if will work that way to avoid the brush issues.
It will work just fine
You have a nice way of explaining and sharing what you do. I’ve just taken delivery of my XTool Pro 20W here in the UK. I like the compass image. Is that readily available 🙏🫡
Thank you very much. I found the compass on a Google search
Thank you for answering a few questions before I could ask. I've seen many of these tiles videos and almost everyone talks about removing underlying paint color. I had been wondering if it can actually go into the tile. I don't want to potentially sell something and get complaints the coffee cup scrapes off the design, even with a seal coat.
No, the paint will not go into the ceramic. It’s not porous. Thanks for watching
@@PawPawsWorkShop Opps, I don't think I phrased it right.
I was previously wondering if the laser actually went into the tile instead of just removing the spray paint layers. This was the first one I have seen that said it was permanent instead of layer removal.
So, thanks for answering a question I had for so long at roughly 7 minutes in.
Hi
The problem with the (S) usually is due to maladjustment on the mirror of the laser if yours have mirrors, when you engrave in the top part that won't happen but as the laser goes down and get far the laser will start hitting less centered on the pointer inner hole, an adjustment on the mirrors leaving the pointer on the bottom right of the engraving space of the machine should fix it, I had probably done this easy fix 20 times with my machine
Best Luck Fixing it
Did you not see the diode laser moving over the tile?
I did this before watching this video with a similar compass rose (not as nice as the one you are using) and it turned out grey, I tried various speeds at full power as well. Still looks good though
It may be the chemical makeup of the paint. thanks for watching.
@@PawPawsWorkShop ah yes, you could be right. It is rustoleum primer. I will try some other paints.
How do you set the x and y to the center in lightburn? I have an ortur laser. This is an amazing idea and and amazing project.
I use the center point as the origin point. In Lightburn the small green square is the point of origin. Align the laser to the same point on your project
I like the idea of centering the laser in the middle of a piece, but how does that work? I guess I don't understand. I did a search to no avail.
Thank you for taking the time to make this video, I noticed your image mode was set to Fill would using jarvis mode yield similar results?
Most likely it would however you just need to test the settings to get the best results
what laser model did you use? what is the max output it can output? 20w?
Forgot to ask have tried using a colored tile, such as yellow, green or whatever? What watt is your laser?
Papa this is a great video! I have watched at least a dozen times and can't wait t get my
Reizer 20 watt laser set up. I have a couple questions.
1. where did you get the compas rose file from?
2. Did you have to use inkscape or something like that to get it ready to engrave.
I already have about three ideas using this file for gifts.
The compass rose just came from Google images. Yes, I use Inkscape to convert to svg and to clean up the file. Thank you for watching
@@PawPawsWorkShop I have tried several different pictures from google and still have not been able to get it right. It would be great if you could do a video on how you make the compass rose file to burn in lightburn.
I noticed your line interval is .00394".. Is that the default for your laser? I thought the 5 and 10watts used a .08" line interval. Very good video, thanks.
That is correct. I did not change it
i cant get mine to look good at all. 15 watt otur master 2.. cant get it black. to bad i cant post pic of it here. im i laying the paint on too thick? i have also used titanium dioxide and not getting anything either. i wonder if im laying that on too thick? any advise, please. thanks for video.
Love your channel by the way. I know when you use a special coating like Cermark on mugs and glass, that is made for etching. But I'm not understanding how the spray paint is achieving the same thing. Which is great cuz spray paints a lot cheaper. Will it work on metal also like the Cermark?
The chemicals in the paint are oxidized when heated by the laser and burned into the materials resulting in the black color permanently etched in the ceramic.
@@PawPawsWorkShop thanks. I always learn so much from you.
Thanks for this! Is there a reason why we have to put paint over the tile? I understand the need when engraving glass, but can't the laser eye see the white ceramic and just etch without another layer?
The titanium in the paint is what makes this work. It’s called the Norton White Tile method
How long did this take approx.
When you set the laser to the center of the tile, does it matter where on the computer screen the graphic is placed? I’ve tried setting the laser at the lower left corner of the tile, when I click “frame”, it frames the correct spot. But when I click “start”, the laser will just travel to the lower left corner of the machine bed without doing anything else.
Yes, the computer must match. If you are using Lightburn, the green square is the origin point. No need to home the machine
Great video, thanks Probably a stupid question, but why not to use black or dark paint that is more less reflective compared to white paint ??
I tested the black tempera paint on the glass. I believe in testing, testing, testing.
THANK YOU SO MUCH for this VERY informative video and EVERYTHING worked out exactly the same for me! XD Now my question...how do I have to prepare a black porcelain plate in order to laser a picture onto it? THUMBS UP for the video and PLEASE keep it up! THANKS from Germany XD
Great job. That really looks clean! Do you have to use white paint? What will other colors do?
The paint must have titanium oxide in it to work
cool
Thank you
Hi, thank u sooo much sir!!!! Did the titanium oxide in the spray paint make the tile art black? thx amillion
Yes, the laser is burning the titanium oxide. That is the chemical reaction of the laser and yes the burning causes the black
Very nice! I've been trying to do the test burn with all of the little boxes in a grid pattern that are different speeds and go from 100% power down to 10% power. But everything wipes off with the exception of a few boxes. People are telling me that they get good burns at 750mm/min at 60% power. Anything faster than 200mm/min and less than 100% power wiped off for me. Hmm.
Maybe the type of paint. Just a thought
The type of paint used & the preparation of the tile, as well as the speed & power settings all play an important factor, as well as the actual output power of your laser.
This is so cool! Will definitely be trying this. Does anyone know why you have to paint it first though? Also, does the color of the paint matter?
It the titanium oxide that is in the paint that makes this process work. Thanks for watching
Any advise on why my engraving wipes off the white tile? I have followed your video and had adjusted settings, but the lighter grey/white areas wipe off. And is there a file for LaserGrbl with the greyscale test that you are aware of?
What are your settings in GRBL? $30=1000
@@PawPawsWorkShop $30 1000
Great results! Don't you need to add a top coat of some type since you burned through the ceramic coating?
I don’t think I will need it. Time will tell
That laser is not powerful enough to burn through the ceramic coating. That can be shown by trying to burn the same image without the paint. NOTHING will burn
Congratulations on the great video. What kind of laser are you using? Diode or CO2? What power does it have?
At 1:42 it shows a Fox Alien 20w diode laser.
Thank you for the excellent tips!
The ceramic is not etched like glass or stone would be. You are fusing the paint to the ceramic. You can also do this trick on glass and other things like plates.
great video sir.
Thank you
Hi, i have been trying to cut PAI 0,5mm to make stencils with a blue diode but it doesn't cut white plastic. Do you know a way to do it?
so what if i want to "mass produce" a bunch of tiles? do i still use basic spray paint in a can on each individual tile, or can i shoot them with a larger volume spray gun on a set of a dozen or so placed on card board? not that familiar yet with lasers and paint, so was curious if all paint would react the same? brother in law works at an auto body shop and has access to spray guns and paint booths where i could paint a couple of dozen at a time to prep them ahead of time.
That should work just fine.
can you do more videos with the white tile........tyou
Yes, I will and more
Thank you for your video. Interesting and I will buy Rust Oleum spray to try. Can use the one where the White paint is Matt instead of Gloss.?
Yes you can! Smokey beige works well also. It’s the titanium oxide in the paint that makes this process works
@@PawPawsWorkShop Thank you for your quick response.
I engraved on blue tile worked great when I engrave on white tiles it doesn’t burn black how do I get it to burn black
Have you tried using zync spray instead of the white spraypaint? It leaves a darker etch and washes off easier.
I have not tried that yet
Hi Paw Paw. I noticed you are using a fox alien laser. Did you connect the laser directly to the inventibles controller or did you have to use a controller from Fox Alien? I inherited a 15W unit from a friend but it has no manuals, wires or anything. Trying to figure out how to hook it up.
The FOXAlien laser has it own controller on the machine itself. The xcontroller on the XCarve does not have all of the necessary laser control elements. I have a JTechphotonics laser for the XCarve and it has it own controller for the laser that is connected into the xcontroller.
Thank you very much. Would you please explain about the black color after engraving. Is it the result of burning the white paint?
It is the result of the burning of the titanium oxide that is in the paint
@@PawPawsWorkShop Dear Sir, How does engraving multi-layered painted canvas come out in different colors? The used paints are the same, that is, they containing zinc dioxide. I really get confused. I appreciate your explanation.
Have you had the opportunity to try the Fox Alien Air Assist pump?
I just got one and will be doing a video shortly. Thank you for watching
Great job. Did you tried others kind and brand of prime? This is because I don't have access to that particular prime in my country. Thanks
Just give it a try. See what works
Hello, love the video.. But hope you can help me understand something.. Where did the black come from?! Spray painted the tile white, and laser engraved into black.. I'm missing something
Titanium in the white paint burns with the laser
Hello, thank you for your Videos. I have a question, where do you have the air assist from? I'm searching since a longe time for a assist for fixed diode lasers. Thank you for your help.
Best regards
Jochen
Many people use air pumps designed for aquariums. FoxAlien has an air pump that I just received and I have a link in the description below to their site. Take a look. This is an affiliate link so if you purchase it helps me and costs you nothing extra.
@@PawPawsWorkShop thanks for your answer and your support. 👍🏻
Hi, I am failing on the white tiles. I have a 10 watt D! Pro. Your using a 20 watt. Any ideas giving me just a ballpark on 10 watt settings?
If you have not done a grid test of power and speed that please do that. That will give you the answer for your laser
Video turned out well. Would've been nice if you mentioned Nicky Norton, since the process you're using was pioneered by him and is called the Norton White Tile Method.
The laser reacts with the titanium in the paint, turning it black and permanently fusing it to the tile. If done properly, a sander would have trouble removing it.
You are correct and I mentioned Nicky Norton in the comments. It’s a great method. Spread the word
@@PawPawsWorkShop Yep, been doing it for quite a while.
1:17 I've found my best results with Rustoleum Antique White.
Awesome, I’ll have to try that