2022 Honda CRF250RX Underpowered? - My thoughts
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In the very heated debate of whether to choose a 250 or a 450, I offer some perspective in this video. See, if you only ride a dirt bike around the block, or down a boring dirt road, I can see why you might get the sense that the 250s don't have the power you want.
On the other hand, get them out on a trail (or a track even)... and all that fades away. This bike is insane fast and your speed is not limited by the displacement of the motor. Your speed and fun is limited by only one thing. You.
That doesn't mean that I don't really like riding the 450 version of this bike, because I do. It's a different kind of fun though. Each has it's own flavor, but if I'm having a chill day with my boys, I think I opt for the 250 version. I have a different mindset when swinging a leg over the 450 where I'm more locked in, and more aggressive mentally when on the 450. Which is at odds with my throttle hand because it's just the opposite when riding the bikes. My throttle hand has to be tamer, or at least more precise when I'm on the 450.
What a dichotomy!
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"If you're going to ride all day..." There's the key. I'd take a 250 over a 450 in an 'all day' ride any day. The riders on the 450 will be shot at the end of the day when the 250 riders will be ready for more, relatively speaking.
This. Me 100% I have a yz250fx, and a Beta 300rr. I can ride the 250f all day. And I love the thing.
yep, owned and put 50 hours on a 450 and they’re a wank factor that nobody really needs. you really can’t harness all the power that the 450s have and most ‘pro’ or experienced rider can’t use the power
depends on the 450, the WR and 450Xs are pretty docile along with the big bore 500 KTMs....the converted moto type bikes, RX, XCFs, FXs, etc can be a handful.
I had a WR250R, a KLR 650, and a new 2016 KTM 500 EXC all at the same time. The only one I regret selling is the WRR. But that's just me. Everyone's MMV.
W R O NG .. It's what's right for the individual rider. i hear this all the time and its the rider not the bike.
My primary bike is a CRF 250f, never overheats, dosen't need a fan. Backup bike is a XR 200r. Low power, crappy brakes and the suspension? But I love riding this bike. It seems like a lot of people and the industry are loosing sight of what makes this sport fun. 10 grand for a bike and then upgrade the suspension, cooling, mapping. I don't get it. Guess I'm old. I will shut up now.
Hence the reason we are all waiting for Honda to pull their heads out and build us a CRF350RX and CR350X models so we can still play and have fun, without the close to death moments that the 450 brings... Those old XRs are still some of the most enjoyable bikes to putter around on!
@@Spencer758 You are correct about the XR. I am still rocking the XR 400 and sometimes even the XR 250. They are just flat out fun bikes.
You are right.
You are so right on. I have the 250F and I put some money into it, an updated fork kit, and new rear shock, pipe and spark arrestor, and new IRC tires. It's a great bike. A little heavy, but once it's on the trail it works great. If Honda ever built a lightweight great suspended air-cooled 4-stroke, watch out.
Honestly the 250f with $1500 worth of suspension is a really fun bike. I'm 225 pounds so stock it was too soft but all I want to do is ride around mostly below 25mph and the power is just fine. 5 more would be great but it's fine as is.
nice nice , those kids progressing like a crazy ......... excellent video and narrative too, cheers V!
I am 66 years old and the CRF 250RX is a monster! I started riding at 10 years old! 2 strokes and monster crotch rockets! I ride a fluffy CRF 300L now on the road and a 2023 CRF 250RX off road! Life is great!
If they made a 350 in this bike they couldn’t keep up on the sales. For some reason the Japanese like losing massive sales to the European brands
the only XCF 350's I ever see are for sale. The XCF-W / FE are more popular, but not in the same category of these XC race bikes
Well said. This is case and point for how big organizations, particularly modern corporations, suck. Inflexible. Those employees who see the opportunity don't care because they are just punching a clock and get paid the same whether they take initiative or not.
People have been asking Honda to make a 350 ever since the demise of the XR350.
@@tieoneon1614 - You don’t see them because they are WAY ahead of you. 😜
Had a 2015 for a few years and loved it. Great general purpose bike, but I would probably go for the street legal one next time too. You don’t give up much for being able to ride it right from your garage.
I have been lucky enough to get ahold of the 22 350 exc but set up as a xc in aus due to licensing. Moved down from a 450 and finding the 350 giving me the benefits of both with out compromising much. Just interested what ppls thoughts were as we dont have the luxury of riding alot of different bikes or owning acouple.
If you think that a modern 250f doesn’t have enough power for any sane purpose your skills are the issue, not a lack of power.
I went from an old KTM 200 two stroke to a kx250f and man are you right. I got some minor engine work done and a full exhaust with the lean coupler plugged in and man does that thing blow my socks off. It hauls my fat ass around like nothing. I literally am still wondering why anyone would ever need a 450.
Deep sand whoops are so so much more enjoyable on a 450 than any 250 I've ever played on - the 250 2T is fun too, but I'll take a 450 for the deep stuff. The 250 4T is plenty though in just about every other circumstance - so it all depends on what and where you're playing!
You boy Case looks like he is riding really well. 👍🏻
Gearing- I put in a wide ratio gears. 3rd 4th & 5th.
Switched back to stock (3rd, 4th) but keep the tall 5th gear in. Over Drive for the roads. That worked out great!
As I get older, a little slower works better for me, I would love to win this bike.
Beautiful bike love it keep it up your vids make my day
Your right about the heat that 4strokes put out rode 2strokes all my life I just bought a 22 Husqvarna FX350 I put a fan on it it doesn't come very much but it does in tight twisty situations where I'm not going all that fast
I have a 22 crf250 rx and im a 250 guy.
The difference between it and my old 04 250 rmz is insane. the throttle response is almost too much and the power makes me feel like i am riding a 450 on the trails. seriously insane bike !
oh boy, now imagine a yz250fx, they say it's even more power it feels like tuned up 450, sometimes it's too much. Meanwhile I'm here lacking a little bit of power in my crf150f lol
I was looking for more testing feedback. Hopefully Honda gets a clue and throws a 6-speed gear box in there.
The 6 speed is the catch and lighting coil.
Nice ride, thanks for sharing. Your boys on 85's, before you know it, they will be fast :) and rocking a yz250fx or a 250rx!!!!!!!!!!!!
That 250rx can haul the mail!!
in regards to 250F power and Kyle mentioning the 110 ft SX triple that 250 guys were hitting; when Hunter Lawrence came up short on that jump he was doing a massive whip at the time. considering how much speed a full whips scrubs over that distance, had he not been in a whip he may have overshot the landing ramp
Those boys are great riders! Sure must be tougher too on the smaller wheels!
⚡Honda SHOULD do a 350!
⚡I ride a 350XCF and it's the BEST BIKE I've EVER RIDDEN. It is the sweet spot man!!⭐👍👍
EXC F ?
@@danielhicks5031 the 350xcf or husky FX350 basically the same bike. a beautiful balance for all terrain but probably not "the best" at any one specific thing if you know what I mean.
Ya but if it tis he EXC F you get a license plate and mirrors which opens a whole new world of riding. The KTM 350 dual sport is just as off road capable as the actual dirt bikes (XCF)
@@danielhicks5031
Had a 350exc....wish I had never sold it for an off road bike.
Like the 250FX I have now and the only bike id replace it with is another 350excf.
The plate....such a wonderful thing and the 350 is an awesome motor.
@@danielhicks5031 yeah I get the benefits for those who like to ride the road. Here where I live you can't ride a blue plated vehicle in the woods legally so it's red off road plates for us. Which makes mirrors and signal lights useless. Not to mention we would bust those off inside a day. Haha
Engine ice and Redline oil helps quite a bit...my 04 Crf250x is uncorked....takes 90 degrees and going slow to get her hot enough for the piston to rattle a fuzz and temperature on the radiator cap gets close to red...[ or hot hot]
The 250 is the best all around bike… the RX is the best because it’s got a softer suspension than the R (most people complain about the stiffness) having 3 different maps is great too… I just got this bike but a 2024 model… I had only rode old bikes from the 80s before this… and I am blown away….
All do respect to you guys who do four strokes, but I switched to two strokes and am never going back. My 125 and 250 two strokes, don't wear me out like my old four did.
Which is better the 250 or the 450??
The answer: The KTM 350excf. Perfect power all the time.
Two fifties are cool. Sometimes it's just our ego that lies to us that bigger is better. Saw recently a guy riding a 125 that totally blew away 250/300 times through a twisty course.
Kyle you're 10000% correct. I have a 250fx. I'm 190lbs athletic build and I laugh every time I go ride and guys 150lbs soaking wet show up on 450's and 500's because its "faster." 5 turns later they are reevaluating their life. We're also on the east coast riding NEPG style trails mostly. Always makes me laugh when someone starts saying it doesn't have enough power.
On a side note. I had a crf250r in some seriously tight stuff, never had issues with boiling over. No fan, nothing. Modern radiators do a dang good job these days without the extra help of a fan. You'd be surprised.
Some of the most fun rides I ever had were on a ttr125 and yzf250. For trails, more power and mass just doesn't translate to a good trail bike. I've ridden a KTM 350 and owned a 500 and would still prefer the 250 for a dedicated trail bike for its light weight feel and easy ride. Looking to pick up a Honda 250f soon!
When do the entries start on this bike I gotta buy a bunch of stuff from Rocky Mountain I don’t wanna waste it without any entry
My 2016 250 xcf-w was an easy bike to ride fast through East Tennessee single track and it only ever “llacked power” on steep hillclimbs that I failed to hit hard enough. Buying a 300tpi solved that issue but I think I may be slower on it overall. It’s always something.
Same. My single track hot laps are faster on my 250f than they were on my 300.
Would love to see you upgrade it with a 300 big bore kit from Red Moto. I did it to a 2019 CRF250RX and it was a game changer.
I bet that thing is amazing! -The "big bore" 250Fs are the FASTEST bike for ANY rider! The have grunt, they have agility & handling, and they are the easiest on the body and mind! I bet you'd kill me on both race bikes with a Honda Red Moto CRF300RX - even with a FULLY MODIFIED TM Racing EN300ES 2 stroke engine that I threw everything but the kitchen sink at it from powerparts catalog (it has EVERYTHING that their TM Racing USA team race bikes have except they go with a STIC Metering Block or Smart Carb 2, and I just have a JD Jetting kit for the Keihin PWK 38).
I personally have a 22 CRF450R-S (2020 twin pipe version) that I converted to a CRF450RX (for longevity/durability), and boy have I drained the bank account building it! lol I put Pro Wheels 70R 21in/18in offroad wheel combo with a Dirt Tricks 14/52 final drive w/Regina Gold 520 chain, put the Red Moto billet in-line cooler with their radiator hoses, CV4 radiator cap, trail tech fan, Boyesen Supercooler, Hinson Racing Momentum Billetproof Clutch w/ XPR Engines Clutch arm mated to Ride Engineering billet clutch cable bracket to a ARC RC-8 Works Perch, Akropovic Full Exhaust system, Acerbis oversize tank, Pro Moto Billet kickstand, and Twin Air Powerflow kit with Twin Air Radiator sleeves.
Now just trying to figure out if I'm gonna go with a XPR Mapped Vortex ECU, or an HP Race Development/Taco Moto Mapped Athena Get RX1 Pro ECU?? Do you have any suggestions?? I'm stumped, cause I heard Taco Moto maps are great from some, and lackluster and over-hyped from others - I heard that the RX1 Pro is amazing technology though, and has a way faster processor and added tech at basically the same price point as the Vortex - but I bought most of my stuff from Chad & Leah Braun at XPR Engines and hear nothing but great things about their mapping as thry do many off-road pro engines and are in charge of the MotoconceptsHonda Racing Team...just don't know if I'd want to go with higher end tech with the Athena Get RX1 Pro, as I heard it's almost cheating with that system. Heard the Vortex is really outdated, and the RX1 Pro also has a censor for barometric pressure, and I'll be riding at altitude in Cascade mountains in WA state, to the deep sugar sand of the Atlantic coast of the Carolinas! So what do you think, since you clearly have the best bike in the world, and must be more knowledgeable, experienced, and qualified than myself??
Does it feel any heavier? I have a sumo setup on mine but also ride it on single track a ton. I was thinking of getting a second two stroke but would rather big bore it when it’s time for a top end if it gives it enough grunt without feeling heavy. I’m not into hard enduro or anything. Just chill single track in the woods.
@@MPLSdunk Not at all. If anything it made it easier to manage in the tighter stuff. It's always a tough call, it's very hard to have 1 bike that does it all. The 2 strokes are really hard to beat in more technical riding and they run a lot cooler. But 4 strokes are seriously capable, but feel heavier and jerkier in the tough stuff. Hard to pick your poison! :). I'm a pretty chill rider and I ended up with a 2 stroke for more rocky technical single track and a 4 stroke for more flowly trails. It's kinda fun being spoiled 😎
@@DirtZen first mod I did was put a fan on, so I got the heat managed. it's true you can't have one bike to do it all but I feel like the 250rx is good enough. the other thing nobody talks about is speed. my boys trainer is great in the single track but feels sketchy at 50mph where my bike is rock solid. good to hear you like the big bore, I'll do that before I make any decisions. a lot easier to justify a big bore than a expensive 2 stroke I'll ride a few times a month tops.
Got a newer 2022 honda 250 Rx...totally agree with Kyle, dirt roads are no fun....5 spd on a dirt road....ugh...but what i did notice is swapping out the rear sprocket (50) and going with a 49 steel, helps the open road feel and push the torque aspect of the power band... Agree with video..once this bike gets to single track and flow trails..watch out...disagree with the recommendation to add a fan.. I am a 250 guy and noticed that the engine temp seemed much lower than other 250 MX style bikes...Honda radiators..do the job...i guess if you got stuck in 1st and 2nd gear techno single track all day it might heat up...but Wow...what a nice, light, agile feel with power on the 250 Rx!
Would love for you throw a 350 in there between the 250 and 450 to see if its has the benefits of both or if you would choose a 250 or 450 over the 350?
How is the cockpit size vs the Yamaha and a ktm 300? Be cool if you could compare them somehow accurately.
I really like my '22 450rx. I actually love it,but I'm a big bastard. I was concerned the 250 wasn't big enough. Perhaps I was wrong 🤷
Where are you riding? Like which trail system?
when are you going to get the 450 and 250 in the mountains.
My 22 crf250r is no joke! I ride moto and nice trails. Works fine on both.
Plenty of power in aggressive mode and stock mode. The trail map is good too. I put a throttle cam on mine to smooth out the twitch in the first half of the twist on gas. Thing is nasty
But how much do you weigh?
@@chapekfabrication2975 155-160
Think this bike would be competitive in enduro races and maybe even some local mx races?
How do you enter for the giveaway just blew up my bike thought might as well give it a shot
350 has to be the sweat spot
The 250s that cleared that jump were monsters tho. But I get what your saying
What do you think of this compared to the WR250f? Which is best bang for the buck?
The big 4 need to jump on the 350 bandwagon. I would buy a crf350rx in a heart beat
Where are you riding at, Kyle?
Flame out monster on tight technical stuff. Not just me!!
Hi, how does it compare this honda to the Kx250x? Thank you.
Try riding it at see level can get the CR250F front wheel up in 4 th gear really quick bikes.
if you change the the muffler to a performance muffler you get alot more bottom end
So for wheelie fun go with the 450?
The four stroke runs hotter due to the 4 strokes for the combustion cycle. Two stroke, gets the hot exhaust gas away from the engine quicker.
I had a Honda CRF 250 06, i loved the frame and the engine...maybe the least powerful 250 out ther, but man i loved that bike. Today I have an Husky te250, but I would buy a brand new honda CRF 250 if I had the opportunity, and the money, ofc.
I would love to see Japan produce some 200, 250 and 300 2 stroke enduro bikes.
@@carlatamanczyk3891 the 200cc is the ultimate fun bike for me...I had the opportunity to try one of my mates beta rr200: Just a fun machine to play! Ofc with a japanese AF would be the ultimate weapon!
Where were you riding on this video
Nice bike BUT I still think I would take the YZ250FX over this bike
KTM 150 xcw or CRF250rx. Both have same power. What is a better bike for a person getting back into the sport?
Could you try out maybe an off-road package of Suzuki? I think that would be interesting to watch! Since everyone is such a hater on them lol.
Oh I totally agree and know why, I thought it was be interesting to watch, that’s all:)
Dad Side note Riding with Boys Question. On the fastest open smooth road sections. How fast in MPH are your Boys comfortable riding now on their current bikes / Experience Level? Just wondering now that they are a lot more confident.
Is the Honda 250rx better than a yz250fx
There are not a lot of options for the kids 12-15 in that 34-36in seat height My son out grew his klx110 and I just bought him a new kx100. I'm looking at getting the 250rx for my self
Klx110 is severely underpowered
is there a way i can change my bike to a 6 speed?
Since you are on a Honda kick currently you should your oldest on a crf150rb. I got my 13 year old daughter one and she absolutely loves it. She don’t even ride her yz85 very much anymore.
Kyle r u saying the fan came on for the Honda on this footage we r watching.
Also, couldn’t agree more on the 5 speed. If my KTM 250 4 stroke didn’t have 6 I wouldn’t like it
Do 4 strokes actually run hotter though? I've seen a ton of ktm 250/300s boil over because they don't come with a fan. The race 4 strokes do seem to run a little hot though.
It's crazy how the Japanese brands refuse to innovate for off road motorcycles. From what I have heard, that is the fastest growing sector of dirt bike sales (trail, enduro) ......... because it's fun! Not many people who need to go to work on Monday can splatter themselves on a motocross track. YZ250 - Cable clutch, carb, no e-start? Just the basics right?
What’s wrong with cable clutch? I could understand that it still being carb is a problem but nothing wrong with a cable clutch
Yeah it’s good and bad with how slowly the Japanese brands change.
@@cass8144 In hard enduro or technical trail riding terrain, the heavy pull of a cable clutch is totally unacceptable. In wide open riding, I'm sure it would be fine. I have bikes with both but would never take the bike with cable clutch on the "real" trails. All depends on the terrain I guess.
@@midgetmoney1 the Yamaha clutch is really light, like close to a KTM.
@@cass8144 carb isn’t a problem. Less issues and easy to work on, plus generally better on low end torque. Overly complicated things aren’t always a good idea on backwoods trail riding.
I was also thinking that the SX guys are tripling jumps so how could this bike not have power.
I did read a comment and have to agree that a 350 sounds like a good bike for the woods.
Well this is not an SX bike. Its a Cross Country Bike, so its likely slightly de-tuned. Not to mention that while the SX bikes follow honologation rules, there is still a degree of performance components and software components used to MAXIMIZE performance.
If I ever hit my head, forgot who I was, and ended up buying a 4 stroke, I’d get a 350. Seems like the best all around trail bike size for a 4 stroke.
@@joshuavanzuydam5044 I wasn't saying that anyone could take this bike and race a supercross I was just saying that a 250 4T (and I'm a 2T guy til I die) is not going to be scooter power. You make valid points but I'm comparing apples to oranges in a way
I am an average rider ,been riding since 1980,mostly 2 strokes similar terrain to this video ,I have a couple of 450 sxf s ,250 ,300 tx ,bought a 19 350 fx husky it’s the sweet spot ,6 speed ,close ratio box ,not a fan of air forks so I put dal Soggio cartridges etc for the average bloke not wanting a 2 banger this is the one .👍
What I ask when people complain too much about power I ask back, do you have the technique? Unless you're racing baja on an open desert you don't need that much power and you probably wouldn't even use that much power to it's full potential.
add a pipe and a 270 or 300 kit to it.
My buddy has a new WR250f and compared to my crf250r it feels way underpowered. But that WR shines on the trails. It handles anything rough better than my bike ever could. 😁🇺🇲
Theres an exhaust baffle, airbox baffle, and a throttle stop that he can remove from the WR to get some more power. They choke up the WRs so they pass emissions in California for offroad riding.
@@Justen1980 yeah I helped him with that when he first got the bike. It helped wake it up.
@@Justen1980 AND the competition ECU
I am looking at purchasing my first dirt bike, I have about 10yr experience on motorcycles but decided street is too dangerous so moving to dirt. I am 6’5 240 and considering this or a Yamaha WR or YZ, I will be riding GA trails. Which do you recommend?
450
what did you decide?
Wr250f
i concur... WR250F is an easy answer. and i'm not brand loyal.
After owning/riding a 450 over many years now I will never go back to a 250! 250 is best for kids coming from smaller bikes or older men who complain a lot an out of shape that can’t handle 450s. Remember: 250s in super cross are very beefed up an definitely not the bikes you get off the dealership floor. And you will have to spend thousands extra of dollars to have a 250 MX bike like the pros he is comparing to in super cross. As said in this video, “Just keep in mind”
So, what's better the RX or the FX? Which Japanese 250 should I buy? Thanks
The FX has more power, better suspension, The Hondas power is up from 21, but still lacking compared to FX, suspension isn’t bad. Honda handles razor sharp though and feels lighter, and does it look good, YES… Can’t go wrong with either.
The FX has a better gearbox, and a proven durable engine. Guys are going 250 hours on those top ends no problem. I'd go FX all day every day and I think Kyle would to.
Rx all day
At sea level, plenty, at 7000+ feet, the 250s suffer....it's about a 20% loss, so down from say 40 to low 30s
Thought this was a video about the power of a 2022 CRF250RX. My bad.
The Honda 250RX is the best new friendly off-road 2022 bike!!
Wait till you get in your forties; the displacement draw is real on the bigger bikes. Kinetic energy, rotating mass, throwing it all around all day, robs “fun” energy from the experience, today’s smaller displacement bikes really are all you need…plus legacy techniques applied, a good 125 or 150 two stroke will do enough and will make it “fun”! Ok, even a four stroke 250….plus once you go down, 300, 350, 450 is a phat ass crusher on the bod!
I'm 72 years old and I love riding a 300 2 stroke all day long. Thats with type 2 diabetes, neuropathy, and stage 3 kidney dusease included.
Always carry a bottle of vit C with you. 10 000mg in a situation like this will keep swelling down etc
That 110 ft triple was nasty. No thanks.
I just bought the 2022 crf450rx. I would have gotten the 250 but it wasn't available. The price difference was only $1200. The dealer told me id prob save that in maintenance in a few years having the 450. He said the 450 will require less top ends over the life of the bike, can anyone confirm this is true?
Same here in Manitoba, no 250’s in sight so I went for the 450RX. Wow power everywhere, they told me the same thing I’ll save on maintenance and rebuilds because I wouldn’t ring it out as much as the 250. I mainly trail ride with the family 80% and the rest fast pace or at the track. Can’t wait for our snow to melt so I can start putting serious miles on. Ride Red and have fun, good luck with your bike
@@a.p.r.1045 Yeah these bikes are powerful! I have a 2010 yz250f, and my crf450rx compared to yz250f, is like my yz250f compared to my wifes klx140. You have fun too bud!
Yes, 450's generally speaking out last 250's. Especially if you aren't tapping the rev limiter.
Alot of people's mentality is that because they can't ride quick they can make up the difference with either 450 or 500 which is so far from the truth, but give a 450 or 500 to a pro and they make it faster.
Moral of the story cc does not equal speed generally. Just saying.
is this as good as the Yamaha fx250?
No
At 55 it’s fine
They are super under powered for a skilled rider.
put them on a 250...put my 12 yr. old on a 250 from a 85 big wheel, so much easier for them to ride even though the bike is taller. did the same thing with my oldest boy, same result. don't worry about the plastics... children have bones made of rubber for sure...
Are flag style hand guards better than full wrap handguards???
I switched to full wrapped cuz a months ago I broke a finger due to not having protection of a full wrapped. But it depends, some big riders use flag other full,
th-cam.com/video/PrX1DKgMKjo/w-d-xo.html Kyle's thoughts here. Also this track he is on in this old video in American Fork Canyon by tribble fork reservoir is awesome, i had a chance to do it with my kid last year, cant wait to go back.
Hey wassup
2fiddy for me 450 is to grabby
If a dirt road is boring...you just aren't going fast enough.
I'm use to a KTM 500 cc racing bike anything under that feels like a postie bike.
No overpowered under geared
Should of called it “250 vs 450” lol
I dont know, your boys 85s could probably out run the CRF250.
Yamaha’s/Suzuki’s/Honda’s for trail/enduro purposes are utter garbage. Basically zero innovation in the last decade.
Dirt roads are awesome to ride on wtf are you talking about bro
Speaking of the Atlanta SX, You do realize that 1. These are the best 250 riders on the planet? 2. Several 250 riders came up short, not just hunter. 3. These guys weigh about 145lbs soaking wet. 4. Those 250s are ALL factory bikes, which have waaay more power and ability than a stock bike. In fact, they don’t even compare. But seems like you keep going back and forth depending on what bike you are on. It’s like a fickle girlfriend. One video your talking about how awesome it is to have the power of the 450, going up hills, etc, then your talking about how the 250 is enough. Sure hope people aren’t spending big bucks on a new bike based on your opinion for the week. Maybe it’s because you are a new rider, but seems odd to keep going back and forth on this stuff, like you don’t have enough hours on each bike to really decided which is best. Hopefully people have enough riding experience and understanding to make the choice on their own.
I think he does a bang-up job of explaining the advantages and disadvantages of every bike he rides from his perspective. New rider??? I hardly think so.
Jesus, is it that time of that month?
Being that guy* are we ?
Simply opinions of people that don't mean anything in the industry.
And it always seems like they test the 450 before the 250 just to come to the conclusions it's under power.
250 is phenomenal for an all-day ride.
It takes a real man to handle 450 in tight trails.
It does make me laugh that it's always the same information since the early 2000s when four strokes came out.
Yep they're heavier yep they run hotter.
Got any more repetitive information.