M1 Max Mac Studio vs Custom PC with Premiere Pro | Beauty vs Beast
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- Let's compare the M1 Mac Studio to my custom-built PC!
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Are you team beauty (Mac) or beast (PC)?
Team Mac .. Spent 10 years with Windows and Dual-Boot Windows/Ubuntuu Linux .. With the exception of Linux OS (though MacOS is based on Debian Linux), I won't go back. Also, I'm Team Resolve too vs Premiere, for many of the same reasons. :)
Team PC all day every day for me, but my wife is Mac. Opposites attract.
@@homemade_vancity MacOS is not based on Debian in any way even remotely. It's a Unix subsystem with a completely different development path.
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I feel this comparison would have more value if the PC components were more current. In particular, Intel started adding hardware encoders/decoders in the 11th gen CPUs with graphics that cover a wider range of h.264 and h.265 formats. I'm not an expert and could be wrong but I would think that could have some impact on their comparitive performance and be a more valid comparison.
I'm so glad you pointed this out! I would love to build a PC with 2022 parts and put it against the Studio and other M1 (or M2 now!) chips. I'll have to start saving for some new PC parts now! The upgrades never end haha. Any build you'd like to see in particular? The 11th gen intel chips?
@@keith-knittel Completely agree about the upgrades and one of the reasons I was happy to be with Apple for a while. I couldn't find a replacement for my iMac that I was happy with so I'll move back to Windows for a while. I would move straight to the 12th gen if you can source all of the components since the improvements seem worth it. Based on a recommended build from "Tech Notice" I went with a 12600K and RTX 3060 12gb. I found a prebuilt system on sale and bought it. Video production is only a hobby for me and this will suffice but you may need something more. In his posted benchmarks he shows that you can get some encoding/decoding assist from the built-in GPU to go with the discrete GPU for better performance. However, Davinci Resolve 18.0.1 won't even let me select the Intel GPU as a hardware option and defaults to the Nvidia card. In testing various export/deliver settings using h.264 and h.265, the Nvidia card did consistently produce the fastest result and usually the smallest files when compared with the Intel and Native settings although the results were sometimes close. Having been away from the WinTel world for a while I learned a lot from a couple of his videos. The time frame you're looking for is from 6-12 months ago. If you'd like, I can save you a little time and link them. Just let me know and I hope this helps.
ran a test on my windows pc. 4 seconds to open premiere. 5 seconds to open a project with some minor work. Definitely plan to compare.
Hey, thank you for your great content! I'm a Premiere Pro user and I'm in the position of deciding which of these machines is the right choice for me, an i7 13th gen CPU PC or an m1 max mac studio. The question is: Does the MacBook really and insanely have less lag in daily usage and on the Premiere timeline? Is it a really lag-free machine compared to the PC? Does Premiere perform better and experience less crashes on the Mac studio?
Great video. So excited for mine to arrive this week. One thing, “fast forward x1” is just playing the video at real time, it’s not fast forward. The first level of fast forward is x2 and the next bump is x4.
Thanks for the feedback - I meant that as pressing the fast forward button once, but I understand “1x” in the scheme of playback is confusing with real-time being “1x”. Will keep that in mind for the future
Well, first thank you very much, this was exact the informations I was looking for. I have a 8770k Intel and an Nvidia 1090 TI, still a pretty good graphic card. I#m rendering with Davici Studio in UHD 60 fps DNX HQ - and it works well. Changing now makes no sense, but as you you say waiting if there's a new generation and one can buy the actual cheaper. Ok, the mac does not need that much power, it is small, like it, but I will wait and decide than.
I havent read all the comments, but playback and rewinding is taxing because your'e dealing with a compressed video format. In post production, we convert EVERYTHING to ProRes. yes, it's four times as heavy in terms of space usage but it kicks butt. Any pro editor should know this stuff. Not only is it capable of a much better colour space, it's not compressed so your system isn't bogging down essentially "unzipping" constantly. eww. H264 and H265 is for delivery. It's not a good codec for anything else.
There is also the dnx which is used in post production
Dude add visual and screen recording of the things you are talking about
based on my extensive research, the macs do best in prores exports, they suffer in h264 exports in premier against pc. even your older spec pc was tie with the m1 max, so the m1 max would lose to any modern pc for h264 export in premiere, but in davinci h264 the macs do much better than in premiere. so for pro res videos the new m1 series, for non pro res likely gonna get better results on the pc.
Makes sense for ProRes to be the best working codec on Mac since it's an Apple designed standard.
Problem with the pc is this mac studio is not in the 8 or 10k range its starting at 2k range which given it performance is really compeling.
Yeah, price to performance.. and you dont have to assemble it yourself makes it very compelling.
I heard people complaining about bugs with Premiere on Apple Silicon, have you faced any issue compared to PC ?
With the early beta software days there were lots of glitches, haven’t ran into any on the latest releases of premiere
I use apple mac pro m1 1tb 10 inch for creating video in 4k for my youtube channel. I think apple on m1 is really great computer. I don't need another computer for years. And in 4-5 years apple maybe create M5, and i will buy it. Your video really good, thank you!😊
Typing this on the m1 Pro macbook pro right now! Absolutely love this machine! At this rate, it will last until the m5! Thanks for the kind words, Egor!
Commenting from the future
What’s the future like?
You would need to switch to Resolve or FCP to get the most out of the Mac. Premiere is a dinosaur when it comes to optimization right now. Also, the main superpower of the M-family of chips is Pro-Res. If you use Pro-Res a lot M1-Max is a game changer.
I know, I really need to use Resolve or FCP - but I typically switch between systems and for now, premiere pro is the easiest for me to use between mac and PC. Especially helpful when collaborating with other videographers/editors. I wish FCP was cross-compatible because it seems like it chews through footage with ease!
Hey dude, great Video! But I missed some animations for compairing the export/open times
I can definitely add those in the future! Thanks for the feedback, nico
Which Liquid Cooler do you use on your PC and do the fans make noise while editing 4k videos?
Using the NZXT x73, and I can hear the fans if I'm editing or playing games, but I do both of those with a headset on and isn't distracting. I keep my fan curve on performance though!
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Who needs upgrades, I've a 128GB Mac Studio Ultra on my desk and I'm not planning to change it for years and years. With a PC I should build a noisy monster that sucks 1.2KW and heat my room and the performance would still be inferior.
That is very true, but some people like the ability to upgrade over time instead of spending all that money upfront. I love my macs, but I also love tinkering and building PC's. There is just something to opening the case, slapping a hard drive in and booting it up and it working that's really nice. But it is SO power hungry
I don't see how performance would be better on Mac, seeing as it has much worse specs than most high end pcs.
@@TacticalPhoenixYT the voice of knowledge spoke ahahaha
Funny even entry-level gen13 intel i5 13600k beats your Mac Studio Ultra in Cinebench R23. In both Single and Multicore
@@TomasRamoska AHAHAHAH
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I heard complain about drop frames when you are using Non Apple 4k monitors because of the scaling of Mac OS. What is your experience?
Are you using Apple Monitor?
Hey there, just commented on your other comment (thanks for the support!) but I was on a 2560x1440 Apple monitor during the day and a 3440x1440 LG monitor
I can't think why that should happen, to me is just a rumor.
Beauty for sure! The Apple ecosystem is just so smooth. I can’t wait to eventually update my computer I’m currently editing using a 2017 MacBook Pro
Yeah for sure! I love the apple ecosystem and how easily everything works together. The M2 chips are coming out soon, that would be a huge upgrade from the 2017. I'm looking to sell my M1 Macbook air soon-ish if you're interested
@@keith-knittel that’s for sure! I’ll let ya know, I might try to go for the m2 eventually to get the most out of upgrading since I tend to use a setup for 5 or so years. Just spent some fun coupons on the 17-28 Tamron recently but hit me up about air pricing. Curious how much I could get for my MacBook Pro I believe it’s fully upgraded and 1tb ssd
Totally understand that. That 17-28 is a solid pick up though! Will let you know about the M1 Air. Not sure about the trade in prices or facebook marketplace prices for computers anymore
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Best review ever.!!! Now that iCloud actually works on windows, for iPhotos, I see no need, to keep buying these bricks, I have a mini m1, 4 years old, after the latest OS , that thing struggles opening on1 photo software, but I do have my build so all is good.
So stop spending money on Apple shiny very expensive stuff, seriously.. I know people that spend their saving just to say they bough a Mac m1 or m2