For anyone running Minecraft Java on an M1 Mac, it's a good idea to switch the jvm out for an arm native one (like Zulu). It ends up being about 20% faster because it doesn't need to run through rosetta. I'm going to assume Mumbo did that (along with adjusting the heap size), but thought I'd mention it for everyone else.
I was gonna ask if running JVM on Mac could potentially cause issues. My suggestion would've been to just setup another OS in multi-boot, but your advice is definitely better.
Yes it is possible to run MC native on M1 and yes, it gives a huge performance gain. It’s not even hard to do! So let’s bump this comment up so Mumbo hopefully sees it.
If you haven’t already. Make sure you install sodium, lithium, starlight, and other performance mods for long-term. Starlight basically removes lighting update lag so those flying machines won’t be an issue. The fabulously optimised modpack is a great option that contains all of those mods and a fair few others that will definitely improve your performance hugely.
Please keep in mind that the number of cores you have doesn't really matter with Minecraft. It's a single-threaded game so it doesn't take advantage of the extra cores. The only time extra cores would help would be to offset the load from the operating system and other programs. Lots of RAM is good for loading large amounts of chunks or for having less breaks between garbage collection (where you may get significant frame drops every few seconds). Just in case you're wondering why you're not getting the larger frames that you had in mind
@@KaidanHolliday I don't see why not. Most of the optimization mods are actually not using hardware intrinsics or things that would be exclusive to x86. Java was meant to be build once run anywhere
@@KaidanHolliday now iirc they were experimenting with a software renderer in rust to use for occlusion culling, so that will require a compiled rust binary for the M1, but other than whatever intrinsics they are or end up using. They should be pretty well good to work
@@1unar_eclipse As far as I know, the chunk loading, rendering, and some entity processing are all multithreaded now. Someone else can correct me if I'm wrong though.
@@1unar_eclipse yea if you play modded depending on the size of the pack you should be using only as much ram as it needs to run well to avoid the occasional lag spike from javas garbage cleaning
I’m not sure if Minecraft does this by default now but when I first got my m1 MacBook and stress tested it with Minecraft, I found it was running through Rosetta (Apple’s emulation layer for x86 programs) so I downloaded an arm version of Java and launched it in a special way using MultiMC to get it to run natively. That drastically improved the performance
yep! I presume you did the whole thing about customising the LWJGL version and stuff too? prism launcher (fork of multimc) now kinda Just Works for LWJGL if you just give it a native JDK without needing to finess with that stuff
@@ravenwraith1017 Manymc was discontinued with its arm patches merged into prism launcher. And yeah, initially I had to jump through hoops to get arm to work, but I think eventually I tried polymc with 1.18 and an arm jdk, and what used to crash and die on launch now Just Worked™, so theres definitely improvement to be had
@@ravenwraith1017 Funny you bring that up.. After leaving this comment yesterday I was curious about the current state of m1 optimized Minecraft and discovered ManyMC and downloaded, it runs amazingly!
@@CalcWIZ16 Honestly all I wanted was to use shaders with more than 4-5 FPS. Now I can’t go back. I don’t normally notice or care about fps, but shaders were something I could not use for far too long
Kaon here, I got an M1 Air last year and a half, my frames on base MC was 30, I had to get so many perf mods and avoid Opti for Sodium and it was even better, plus Opti's slower updates on major MC updates. And with OBS recording, my gameplay was pretty fair in my opinion as I'm not strict on fps and stuff compared to many
I strongly recommend using the fabric mod alternatives to optifine as they work just as well and give you a huge performance boost, especially with how you did the flying machine test, a fabric mod called starlight could probably make the thing actually playable.
@@grunzythepotato Yeah, it would, but let's say Mumbo is gonna use this for recording minecraft videos, he might wanna consider using them (I recommend fabulously optimised modpack)
The reason this computer survived the sand world when others failed before is that the render distance in this video seems to be a lot smaller than usual. Like half the screen was sometimes just the blank blue of unrendered chucks.
Hey, computer geek here to answer some questions and explain some things! 1) Why below 300FPS? There are many, and I mean MANY aspects to this. One was mentioned in the video - it's rendering the game at 5K which is still not a standard resolution nowdays. To add to this stress, the game is coded in Java, and Java does not like Macs at all. In previous Intel models, Java was running pretty smoothly thanks to the optimized OS apple made, but due to their relatively "new" ARM architecture, Java is falling behind on optimization and many more factors. One of the possible reasons why the game is running slow is the GPU and RAM. The GPU is powerful, but not aimed at gaming. It may have larger rendering latency because it is designed for studio applications. And now for the dealbraker: the RAM. After 1.12.2, Minecraft's developers became less focused on something we programmers call "Garbage Collection", essentially it's a part of code that cleans up your RAM when the game is running to make sure the program doesn't fill it up. The more RAM Java has allocated to it, the less effective garbage collection is, which means the code has a bit of a mess in it's data. The sweet spot for Minecraft is somewhere around 12GB, if the game is launched with automatic allocation, it might allocate up to 32GB with these specs. 2) Can you solve the FPS issues? Yes, well - kind of. Many people use Optifine with their Minecraft, but that's not really the best choice for macs. Instead, you can run Sodium (something like Optifine's big brother) to help with rendering, garbage collection and overall performance. Sodium can increase frame rates in Minecraft up to 6x in some cases. Now, for some tips for Mumbo if he even sees this: A) Do not casually throw your Mac Studio into a backpack or a travel case. In case you have a 3D printer or happen to know someone who does, print something to cover all the air intakes on the Mac Studio before travelling with it really don't want to be cleaning it in case something gets in there - doing it yourself ruins warranty. B) Install Fabric and Sodium if you want better performance, I mentioned this in question 2 and I can't stress how much it might impact performance. C) Do not run other apps while playing a game on the Mac Studio. Some apps may throw themselves onto the same cores Minecraft is running at which may impact performance so try limiting the amount of apps in the background. (side-note: I'm not sure if this was fixed, I just remember it being an issue) This concludes my computer class, cheers!
You forgot the 'not' in '...that's really the best choice...' Also, Sodium does not Optimize GC and overall performance. Sodium solely focuses on rendering - it uses newer OpenGL versions, utilizes culling of heavy rendering tasks and generally improves rendering performance by optimizing the code. However, theres other matching fabric performance mods like Lithium for server-side performance (works on singleplayer too, since minecraft uses an integrated server)(its even made by the sodium dev to go along with it), Starlight for Lighting Engine performance (it completely rewrites it and makes it so much faster), and FerriteCore for RAM usage Optimization. Now of course those arent the only performance mods, but they definetely have the biggest impact of them all.
@@commander3494 Fixed the typo, thanks! Also, sodium does improve on GC a teeny tiny bit thanks to it’s much more optimized render process, as you mentioned there are other utilities from the same dev but that help even further, but the bandwidth and Apple’s internal cleaning protocols of the Mac Studio’s RAM is so high that I’m not sure if the impact would even be somehow noticeable, unless your playing modded Minecraft. Still, that’s just speculation on my part because I haven’t tried Minecraft on the Mac Studio when I got my hands on it for testing.
You should try Lunar Client, since the native launcher isn't optimized for M1. It runs Sodium to optimize for Apple Silicon; I get 60fps in S8 Boatem Village with an M1 Pro, so with 4x the GPU cores and 2x the CPU cores, the Mac Studio should be insane. Edit: this is on 32 chunk render distance
unfortunately minecraft doesn't really use any GPU resources and is rendered using the CPU most of all. Shaders are a different story ofcourse, but the game itself runs on the CPU. Having said that, Sodium would definitely help!
I think Sodium + Lithium + Iris would enable you to get even more performance! Maybe try again with those and see how much further you can push it! Edit: And Starlight!
@@musikid_official it is exactly that, a shader loader. But mumbo insisted on running some shaders, so why not. And it doesn't subtract the the performance if you aren't using any shaders.
@@musikid_official Iris comes with entity batching, which isn't all that noticeable but reduces frame drops when lots of entities are around. It's enabled even if you're not using any shaders
once upon a time Mumbo crashed the entire hermitcraft server with a perfect sphere of melon and ever since that day he's been in pursuit of the perfect computer to make sure that never happens again
@@johannesbrenner6432 He burned himself out. As someone that has experienced career burnout, I don't ever expect him to return full time. For his own sanity, he probably needs to find a new career altogether. I won't be surprised if he eventually moves full time into his photography/videography work.
@@johannesbrenner6432 I mean, I'm pretty sure that officially he's still on a hermitcraft break, not that he quit But it's because he was burnt out, it's why he had taken a few months off of YT all together awhile back
Omg that damn boatem village 😂 I've got a pretty decent pc rig (alright its a bit more than decent) and the frame drop there is INSANE. I love exploring the area for inspiration and motivation but knowing some of hermits that lived there have similar rigs as me, no wonder they started moving elsewhere and said it was time for a new season haha.
First time Mumbo mentioned Hermitcraft in a long time, as many other fans, I do miss it a lot, so I would really appreciate an update on what your plan is going forward, (regardless what you say!) Of course, you don’t owe us one, but we are here for you when you decide you’re ready! ❤️
I think mumbo is done with this season sadly stressmonster101 and iskall are doing vault hunters and iskall has gone in fully to that so I don't know if they will ever come back
@@Gunsofire Yeah season 6 of Hermitcraft was gold in terms of collabs and consistency, ever since then a lot of the hermits have basically become complacent with hermitcraft
I think this season is coming to an end soon with everyone seeming to wind down so possibly Mumbo will join at the start of next season if he wants to. Maybe he'll visit hermitcraft for a finale episode but I wouldn't expect any plans for him to return this season
Try the massive TNT world again when 1.20 comes out. I remember X saying something about them decoupling the physics from the main thread so entities shouldn't cause as much lag. You can also increase the amount of RAM that is allocated to minecraft in the launcher
Picked up the base model Studio with 32gb RAM couple months back, it’s by no means an RTX but the thing is a monster and plays shaded Minecraft easy. Sodium/Lithium/Phosphor/Starlight all make it even better. Definitely satisfied, and it eats 4K raw footage in Davinci for breakfast
Your Mac Studio is only using 8GB of RAM or something around that. You have to go to advanced and in the last option change 8GB to whatever allocation you want to assign the game to use. Hope this helps.
For anyone curious, the mac studio runs off of 48 cores , due to apple silicon just being multiple separate m1s, java can't run well when working with multiple cores, java also doesn't run off gpus. Also, sodium and stuff probably wouldn't help as much
I never thought I would live the day where I heard someone saying: PLEASE CRASH!!! this was supposed to make you crash!!!! I nearly died laughing xD Thank you so much this video amused me so much!!!!
I've been a fan since hermitcraft season 4, and I'm sure a lot of people (including myself obviously) would want to hear your plans about the server. It's been a long time since the last hermitcraft video and I know that you've been up to a lot of stuff lately, but if you could make a video talking about your plan, it'd be awesome!
To break the game, try doing more layers of sand, crank up simulation and render distance (simulation distance might not exist on that version.), and put it higher up on the y axis so it doesn't get destroyed immediately.
1:51 - "It feels rather lovely to be on a form of Hermitcraft again" I mean, you could rejoin season 9... Though I wouldn't blame you if at this point you felt it was better to just call it a loss and wait for season 10 to roll around again. Though it would be pretty funny if you turned back up on season 9 right at the very end of the season, just as they're wrapping up their final S9 episodes, doing their last outros, just pop up and be like "I'm back! What did I miss?"
I feel like a lot of people think of performance on games as a linear graph as you increase your PC specs, but it's closer to a bell curve, especially with games like minecraft. The problem with using professional grade processors and GPUs for gaming is that a lot of games don't scale well across so many cores, it's to a point where it becomes useless to upgrade your PC for purely gaming performance. This is why things like the Mac Studio don't get thousands of FPS on minecraft, even though on paper it seems like it would. That being said, that machine is probably a beast for editing and/or film making If you wanted an optimized setup for playing minecraft (you have a problem if you want to build a pc just to play minecraft) I've found that 4 and 6 core CPUs and most mid range and older GPUs work very well for minecraft, even older architectures like polaris for AMD can give very impressive frames. Using linux can also provide a significant frame boost over windows and mods like sodium and lithium can optimize minecraft and boost performance across a wide range of systems
I've been playing Java Edition on my M1 MacBook Air for over a year now after my PC died. Though it's nothing like the specs on the new Studio or a proper gaming PC, I'm impressed with the performance overall.
6:22 Is a line that shouldn't have gotten a kick out me, but did. I don't if it was the delivery, context, or me just being a very weird person, but I chuckled.
I get what you mean, I think you could build a cheaper system in windows with more power and flexibility. Hate to say it but apple is a company that people buy for status and flexing. They look pretty that's it. Performance is never Apple's forte.
@@Aliyah_666 yeah a beefy desktop and a beefy laptop would have been a better alternative, you can build an insane pc with like $5k and a $3k laptop (yes there are some) would have solved Mumbo's portability needs. And would have a wider software support than a Mac
@@Aliyah_666 I think Apple makes extremely tight hardware with a solid OS for a significant price premium. It might have been that given Mumbo's budget, this was the correct system to buy for his needs. But it would have been a heck of a video having Linus help spec out different potential solutions before coming to a purchase decision!
@@rudrasingh6354 I agree. The fact that people are arguing his choice is justified based on the fact its apple "premium" is insane. For Minecraft any laptop with a discrete GPU would crush his 7k mac. Im betting you could spec a laptop with 4-5x the performance for 1/7th the cost.
Mumbo u might want to check ur settings because I would get 700 fps on my M1 MacBook Air which was $1000 compared to your $7000. I have all my settings at default and I think there was like one thing I did to make it better. It might have been lunar client. Not sure…
I just dropped 650 dollars on a nice new laptop yesterday, and I have ATM8 on it. I am still having minecraft freeze and crash when my laptop is perfectly able to function independently and shut it down. Like, it just stops working, but my laptop doesn't freeze like my old one. This has shown me that the issues are within minecraft itself.
@@Flutistno3 Yep. Bedrock, for instance, can have a render distance of 96 chunks with no modifications on my Ryzen 3400 + GTX 1660 super with very few dropped frames (this is far enough to see all the way out to the outer end islands from the main one, 1536 blocks in every direction!). Bedrock has many other issues, such as long-standing game-breaking bugs and missing features, but it beats the Java edition of the game in every way when it comes to performance.
@@kaedenmurphy9937 Try the fabulously optimized mod pack, performance becomes much more consistent with it (it won't run as well at 32 chunks as bedrock, but it will be better at 12-16 chunks)
@@kaedenmurphy9937 You don't know how good it felt for me to go from getting probably 15 frames and constant crashes on Java Version on my old Windows XP pc to getting basically constant 60 fps and literally only one crash ever on Bedrock Version with my Windows 10 pc. Honestly I don't think I'll ever go back to Java Version.
To be honest I suspect if he does come back to hermitcraft, he'll wait until season 10 rolls around. I think it's a case that he's missed too many of the antics like the cross-over, Ren's power trip and others for him to go back and fit back in seamlessly. And with a complete fresh start he'll probably feel more comfortable
Minecraft Java Edition is a very unoptimized game, mostly because it runs on Java. Using performance mods like Lithium, Sodium, FerriteCore, Starlight, etc. will definetely help with performance across the board. Something I hugely recommend is a modpack on Curseforge called Overly Optimized, which includes a whole lot of fabric performance mods. I've got a pretty cracked PC (i5 13600K, RTX3080) which gets around 160-200fps in vanilla MC. With OVOP, I get around 1,200fps without shaders, and with shaders around 250fps.
Install Sodium next and triple that FPS 🤗 But yeah if all or most games could be played on a Mac, I'd get one immediately based on using the M1 Macbook Pro at work for editing. MacOS is really satisfying and the M1 and M2 chips are insanely efficient! But, alas, at home my PC is purely for gaming and I don't play only Minecraft unfortunately.
@@FastForwardPlans Yeah i'm really glad about that, but proton / wine is just a compatibility tool. it doesn't always work and i'd like to see some proper native releases.
Alright kids, before you start figuring out how to con your parents into dropping $7,000 on your next "gaming" PC, be aware that Minecraft is a CPU intensive game but basically hates multi-core CPUs. A 20-core with hyperthreading CPU is great for everything _but_ Minecraft. My $200 poverty PC can run Java Minecraft at ~80fps *with shaders.* That's with a decade old 2.53GHz Xeon quad-core, 16GB RAM and a 4GB GTX 1050Ti. The biggest numbers possible don't make for a great gaming rig.
This video was highly entertaining. In other news I'm almost positive that the music used at the end is the same as one of the tracks used for a fiction podcast I listen to. Nice touch.
I wonder if you also considered going remote, essentially by having a server room somewhere that never moves and can be super loud. You then can use any laptop or small computer to connect to it from anywhere
I would love to see how to plan to travel with this new setup, I have a small form factor PC myself and I'm always curious to see what people come up with in terms of protection and how everything is stored inside a carry case.
In all honesty it seems like you've gotten a damn near perfect device for your work. If I were you, I would have gotten a macbook pro 14 for the travel and occasional gaming or something like the Asus Flow devices with the external GPU or Asus Duo or the razer creator laptop (mac vs windows so up to you). And for a primary home PC with a thunderbolt dock and some KVM switches that switch between a tower PC and a laptop. But the way you've done it is as close to best on average at all things. The way I'd do it is a lot more work.
You should also try to put a BUNCH of mobs in one place with the max entity cramming being something huge so they don't start dying, and just see how high you can go with it!
Yeah, it’s a little sad that he missed not only the King Ren arc but also the Empires crossover arc, plus Grian misses him But I understand why Mumbo hasn’t uploaded any hermit craft videos, if the description is of any indication, he is working on filming projects and maybe even travelling around at the current moment
Your Mac may be using Rosetta to run Minecraft. You can use (I think) MultiMC to run the game natively on M1 - instead of the translation layer. Combining this with Fabric, Sodium, Lithium and Iris for shaders you can push the FPS higher. Running Optifine doesn’t help frames too much compared to sodium.
@@emryspaperart They might be, I don’t know if they run it yet. But hence the reason I said “may” because it did run shaders at 60 in his video. But Mumbo should consider running Sodium and stuff. When he goes back to Hermitcraft he is going to need Fabric anyways since Simple Voice Chat and all
@@retrozeboi i double checked and yeah the support was added with 1.19. i have no experience w sodium (i still use forge for mods lol) but i agree and it would be interesting to see him do a second version of this with all the optimisation mods they often use on hc
@@emryspaperart Ah good to know they made it run natively now, kinda about time if you ask me.. I mean I know he probably wont do this, but I think he should use MultiMC just to separate the instances, since MultiMC makes a new Minecraft folder basically. So he could have a clean Redstone world MC and a Hermitcraft MC, running things like Sodium for FPS, Lithium and Phosphor for lighting, there are also memory leak fixes and smoother boot up mods, and countless of visual mods that I need on every install of MC I have xD
Let’s gooo a new mumbo vid! You are the best Minecraft TH-camr mumbo! Edit: man seeing mumbo back on the s8 world again is so nostalgic even though it was literally like a few months ago
I played Minecraft on a mostly min-spec late 2009 imac for about 10 years. Upgrading to 12 gigs of ram was great, but getting a pc built to exactly the specs I wanted was better.
I remember I used to play on a Mac pretty much my entire childhood. It actually ran minecraft really well. My problem is that I was unable to play a majority of steam games and quite a few other applications. I will say, I do enjoy my PC a lot more.
These days if you want a computer to easily play the largest possible selection of games, your best option is, honestly, Linux. Proton (really the WINE project it's built on top of) siloes each game to run in its own dedicated environment, meaning it's a lot easier a lot of the time to run older games (like, Windows 95 old) through their compatibility layer than it is to run "natively" in Windows 10/11.
@@GSBarlev you could run your pc with a vm manager os and using gpu passthrough to run whatever os you need in a vm and play games with it. thats my dream pc but i doubt ill get one good enough to do that (virtualisation isnt perfect so you'd need extra strong specs)
@@sahar1213 I don't think macs have discrete GPUs that can be passed through. But yeah, KVM/QEMU gives near-bare-metal performance, and when you're passing through a GPU, it should be almost as good as dual booting. Still, there's zero reason to run a VM of Windows 98 (unless you're Linus Tech Tips trying to draw the eyeballs) when WINE is so darn good.
@@GSBarlev well, i first arrived at this theoretical setup for security, since i could perfectly isolate my linux vm for programming and windows vm for games (which the devs could have put malicious code in), and the ability to save snapshots. when i buy a new pc (i am currently using a shitty old laptop) ill probably use dual boot though, since it would be way simplier to set up and use, cpu will perform better (cpu virtualization is good but not perfect), and i can anyway encrypt the disks separately. also the gpu may not be able to be isolated, since different technologies, capitalism (like nvidia having powerful vgpu technology but locking it behind their 2000 dollar server farm gpus) and more stuff i wouldnt know since im not a gpu expert
Thanks for this video, the other day I make a video with my new Mac Studio, but the basic model using shaders. But thanks I want to test something similar what you did, and see if is to much difference between your top $7,000 Mac Studio vs my basic model Mac Studio.
For 7000 i want to be able to blow up a million piece of tnt and still have 150 frames a second Edit: holy shit thats my most liked comment ever Edit 2 : i cant believe i have to say this but i was obviously exaggerating
Unsure how you’re running, but if you are using the native ARM Java and native ARM Minecraft with Fabric + Sodium + Iris + Lithium, you should get ~3-5x the FPS based on other’s tests.
do you have any advice on how to play minecraft at a custom fullscreen resolution? My M1 Pro Macbook doesn't seem to... like changing fullscreen resolutions. at all ALSO advice on the FPS: Using ManyMC for Apple silicon with Fabric mods (Sodium and Iris specifically) and a native ARM64 installation of Java can increase performance quite a LOT. My M1 Pro can play MC at around 500FPS without shaders and 150-200 with shaders. It's all up to preventing the CPU from getting bottlenecked by Rosetta
All we need now is to see you on Hermitcraft. From a Fan who misses Mumbo and Grian in Hermitcraft sending messages via Minecart. Oh the good old days.
I swear Mumbo just buys himself a new PC every year to see if it can handle Minecraft at ridiculous scales
The video pays for the computer
@@cantbothernaming yeah no, it really doesnt
@Titus Partly but not fully
@@cantbothernaming 1M views wouldn't be enough to pay for that.
true lolol
For anyone running Minecraft Java on an M1 Mac, it's a good idea to switch the jvm out for an arm native one (like Zulu). It ends up being about 20% faster because it doesn't need to run through rosetta. I'm going to assume Mumbo did that (along with adjusting the heap size), but thought I'd mention it for everyone else.
I've been seeing you everywhere lately, getting featured on videos, reddit, comment sections, props to you
I was gonna ask if running JVM on Mac could potentially cause issues. My suggestion would've been to just setup another OS in multi-boot, but your advice is definitely better.
Yes it is possible to run MC native on M1 and yes, it gives a huge performance gain. It’s not even hard to do! So let’s bump this comment up so Mumbo hopefully sees it.
Congrats on the seed finding
I like your funny words, magic man
If you haven’t already. Make sure you install sodium, lithium, starlight, and other performance mods for long-term. Starlight basically removes lighting update lag so those flying machines won’t be an issue. The fabulously optimised modpack is a great option that contains all of those mods and a fair few others that will definitely improve your performance hugely.
Also check out distant horizons. I think you’ll like it.
Fabulously Optimized is so good, for sure
That sounds amazing! Is it like a new and better version of optifine basically? And how would you say they compare?
@@Ypzilonia it’s at least like twice the speed of optifine
Also you can try out Vulkan Renderer and it will be better than sodium on some computers, sadly no shaders for now
Please keep in mind that the number of cores you have doesn't really matter with Minecraft. It's a single-threaded game so it doesn't take advantage of the extra cores. The only time extra cores would help would be to offset the load from the operating system and other programs. Lots of RAM is good for loading large amounts of chunks or for having less breaks between garbage collection (where you may get significant frame drops every few seconds). Just in case you're wondering why you're not getting the larger frames that you had in mind
If he used performance mods I bet he’d see a huge difference in fps. They handle memory and multithreading a lot better
@@Seedx yes but it's a Mac you can't completely optimize Minecraft
@@KaidanHolliday I don't see why not. Most of the optimization mods are actually not using hardware intrinsics or things that would be exclusive to x86. Java was meant to be build once run anywhere
@@donovan6320 I stand corrected. Thank you!
@@KaidanHolliday now iirc they were experimenting with a software renderer in rust to use for occlusion culling, so that will require a compiled rust binary for the M1, but other than whatever intrinsics they are or end up using. They should be pretty well good to work
Mumbo still has a waffle in his hair
This is Season 8 Mumbo confirmed
Mumbo had his waffle in season 9 too
Grian’s Waffle is confirmed better though
Why hasn't there been hermitcraft in so long anyway? Did he get bored of it or something?
@@omnomgamer8633 probably just taking the month off cause January isn't exactly the nicest to any content creator for revenue and views in general
He never changed his skin
Only thing I have to say is to make sure Minecraft is actually using all those cores and ram
Not RAM; I think Minecraft ironically lags more with high memory (something about JVM memory cleaning)
Minecraft is poorly, terribly optimized for multi-core systems.
@Samuel Werley I thought they added some multi-threading support in 1.18? Not a lot, but I think it was a rendering option
@@1unar_eclipse As far as I know, the chunk loading, rendering, and some entity processing are all multithreaded now. Someone else can correct me if I'm wrong though.
@@1unar_eclipse yea if you play modded depending on the size of the pack you should be using only as much ram as it needs to run well to avoid the occasional lag spike from javas garbage cleaning
I’m not sure if Minecraft does this by default now but when I first got my m1 MacBook and stress tested it with Minecraft, I found it was running through Rosetta (Apple’s emulation layer for x86 programs) so I downloaded an arm version of Java and launched it in a special way using MultiMC to get it to run natively. That drastically improved the performance
yep! I presume you did the whole thing about customising the LWJGL version and stuff too? prism launcher (fork of multimc) now kinda Just Works for LWJGL if you just give it a native JDK without needing to finess with that stuff
@@ravenwraith1017 Manymc was discontinued with its arm patches merged into prism launcher. And yeah, initially I had to jump through hoops to get arm to work, but I think eventually I tried polymc with 1.18 and an arm jdk, and what used to crash and die on launch now Just Worked™, so theres definitely improvement to be had
@@autumnblazey thanks for the heads up about Prism, I just finished jumping through the always infuriating process of migrating through Terminal.
@@ravenwraith1017 Funny you bring that up.. After leaving this comment yesterday I was curious about the current state of m1 optimized Minecraft and discovered ManyMC and downloaded, it runs amazingly!
@@CalcWIZ16 Honestly all I wanted was to use shaders with more than 4-5 FPS. Now I can’t go back. I don’t normally notice or care about fps, but shaders were something I could not use for far too long
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Me casually at 20 frames with something that's $150
Kaon here, I got an M1 Air last year and a half, my frames on base MC was 30, I had to get so many perf mods and avoid Opti for Sodium and it was even better, plus Opti's slower updates on major MC updates. And with OBS recording, my gameplay was pretty fair in my opinion as I'm not strict on fps and stuff compared to many
You are not recording nor using a good screen so the resolution is different
Hey if it works it works. My old laptop was an ancient toughbook running windows 7 that I traded for a 6 pack of beer lol
Me casually with 20 frames per hour
@@magicalplace3788 u playing on a potato?
I’ve played Minecraft on my Mac. It sounded like a jet engine.
Yeah lol
😂
Sure it wasn’t a ps4
probably an intel mac then
My friend tried sneaking on Minecraft during school, and it sounded like top gun
I strongly recommend using the fabric mod alternatives to optifine as they work just as well and give you a huge performance boost, especially with how you did the flying machine test, a fabric mod called starlight could probably make the thing actually playable.
that defeats the point of stress testing yes?
@@grunzythepotato Yeah, it would, but let's say Mumbo is gonna use this for recording minecraft videos, he might wanna consider using them (I recommend fabulously optimised modpack)
Sodium + Lithium + Phosphor + other small mods can quadruple your fps in any operating system
@Kyji personally i get more fps with phosphor
Wrong fabric is a mod loader i think you mean sodium thats a mod that does the same as optifine but better and you need fabric for that
loving the slideshow presentations 😍😍
The reason this computer survived the sand world when others failed before is that the render distance in this video seems to be a lot smaller than usual. Like half the screen was sometimes just the blank blue of unrendered chucks.
Maybe not even laggy with that positively mad piece of software
me tut a douki geg
he Only using Deafult setting for this pc lol even his gtx1080 is more powerful than this
ok
@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ uh ok??
Hey, computer geek here to answer some questions and explain some things!
1) Why below 300FPS?
There are many, and I mean MANY aspects to this. One was mentioned in the video - it's rendering the game at 5K which is still not a standard resolution nowdays. To add to this stress, the game is coded in Java, and Java does not like Macs at all. In previous Intel models, Java was running pretty smoothly thanks to the optimized OS apple made, but due to their relatively "new" ARM architecture, Java is falling behind on optimization and many more factors. One of the possible reasons why the game is running slow is the GPU and RAM. The GPU is powerful, but not aimed at gaming. It may have larger rendering latency because it is designed for studio applications. And now for the dealbraker: the RAM. After 1.12.2, Minecraft's developers became less focused on something we programmers call "Garbage Collection", essentially it's a part of code that cleans up your RAM when the game is running to make sure the program doesn't fill it up. The more RAM Java has allocated to it, the less effective garbage collection is, which means the code has a bit of a mess in it's data. The sweet spot for Minecraft is somewhere around 12GB, if the game is launched with automatic allocation, it might allocate up to 32GB with these specs.
2) Can you solve the FPS issues?
Yes, well - kind of. Many people use Optifine with their Minecraft, but that's not really the best choice for macs. Instead, you can run Sodium (something like Optifine's big brother) to help with rendering, garbage collection and overall performance. Sodium can increase frame rates in Minecraft up to 6x in some cases.
Now, for some tips for Mumbo if he even sees this:
A) Do not casually throw your Mac Studio into a backpack or a travel case. In case you have a 3D printer or happen to know someone who does, print something to cover all the air intakes on the Mac Studio before travelling with it really don't want to be cleaning it in case something gets in there - doing it yourself ruins warranty.
B) Install Fabric and Sodium if you want better performance, I mentioned this in question 2 and I can't stress how much it might impact performance.
C) Do not run other apps while playing a game on the Mac Studio. Some apps may throw themselves onto the same cores Minecraft is running at which may impact performance so try limiting the amount of apps in the background. (side-note: I'm not sure if this was fixed, I just remember it being an issue)
This concludes my computer class, cheers!
Thank the lords and lassies for you, kind sir!
You forgot the 'not' in '...that's really the best choice...'
Also, Sodium does not Optimize GC and overall performance. Sodium solely focuses on rendering - it uses newer OpenGL versions, utilizes culling of heavy rendering tasks and generally improves rendering performance by optimizing the code. However, theres other matching fabric performance mods like Lithium for server-side performance (works on singleplayer too, since minecraft uses an integrated server)(its even made by the sodium dev to go along with it), Starlight for Lighting Engine performance (it completely rewrites it and makes it so much faster), and FerriteCore for RAM usage Optimization. Now of course those arent the only performance mods, but they definetely have the biggest impact of them all.
Yes. See this mumbo
And use a version of MC optimized for Apple silicon, like 1.19
@@commander3494 Fixed the typo, thanks!
Also, sodium does improve on GC a teeny tiny bit thanks to it’s much more optimized render process, as you mentioned there are other utilities from the same dev but that help even further, but the bandwidth and Apple’s internal cleaning protocols of the Mac Studio’s RAM is so high that I’m not sure if the impact would even be somehow noticeable, unless your playing modded Minecraft.
Still, that’s just speculation on my part because I haven’t tried Minecraft on the Mac Studio when I got my hands on it for testing.
Alright Mumbo, you gotta release these worlds now so we can standardize the tests!
the resilience and determination of that mac made me tear up a little
Brooooo he had 5k!! Whyyyyy
@@emilpelaa6732 That probably pushed down the performance quite a bit tbh
You should try Lunar Client, since the native launcher isn't optimized for M1. It runs Sodium to optimize for Apple Silicon; I get 60fps in S8 Boatem Village with an M1 Pro, so with 4x the GPU cores and 2x the CPU cores, the Mac Studio should be insane.
Edit: this is on 32 chunk render distance
Hope he reads this
Lunar client is malware
unfortunately minecraft doesn't really use any GPU resources and is rendered using the CPU most of all.
Shaders are a different story ofcourse, but the game itself runs on the CPU.
Having said that, Sodium would definitely help!
Isn't Minecraft just using singlecore, so singlecore-speed is what's needed?
Or you could just.... Install Sodium???
I think Sodium + Lithium + Iris would enable you to get even more performance! Maybe try again with those and see how much further you can push it!
Edit: And Starlight!
And starlight
Good combo, but does Iris do any actual optimization? I just thought it was nothing but a shader loader for Sodium.
@@musikid_official it is exactly that, a shader loader. But mumbo insisted on running some shaders, so why not. And it doesn't subtract the the performance if you aren't using any shaders.
@@printstrname5346 Alr, thanks, just clarifying.
@@musikid_official Iris comes with entity batching, which isn't all that noticeable but reduces frame drops when lots of entities are around. It's enabled even if you're not using any shaders
once upon a time Mumbo crashed the entire hermitcraft server with a perfect sphere of melon and ever since that day he's been in pursuit of the perfect computer to make sure that never happens again
Seeing Mumbo miss Hermitcraft warms my heart.
Did he ever mention why he quit I guess I missed that part?
@@johannesbrenner6432 He burned himself out. As someone that has experienced career burnout, I don't ever expect him to return full time. For his own sanity, he probably needs to find a new career altogether. I won't be surprised if he eventually moves full time into his photography/videography work.
@@johannesbrenner6432 I mean, I'm pretty sure that officially he's still on a hermitcraft break, not that he quit
But it's because he was burnt out, it's why he had taken a few months off of YT all together awhile back
“My desk was mean to catch fire”
Mumbo - 2023
doing "the thing" is so easy in bedrock, just kinda walk in one direction for a while, you'll see it eventually
Bruh
it's true 😭
That aint normal 😂
I remember that on pocket edition haha
The thing?
Omg that damn boatem village 😂 I've got a pretty decent pc rig (alright its a bit more than decent) and the frame drop there is INSANE. I love exploring the area for inspiration and motivation but knowing some of hermits that lived there have similar rigs as me, no wonder they started moving elsewhere and said it was time for a new season haha.
First time Mumbo mentioned Hermitcraft in a long time, as many other fans, I do miss it a lot, so I would really appreciate an update on what your plan is going forward, (regardless what you say!) Of course, you don’t owe us one, but we are here for you when you decide you’re ready! ❤️
I think mumbo is done with this season sadly stressmonster101 and iskall are doing vault hunters and iskall has gone in fully to that so I don't know if they will ever come back
@@Gunsofire Yeah season 6 of Hermitcraft was gold in terms of collabs and consistency, ever since then a lot of the hermits have basically become complacent with hermitcraft
I think this season is coming to an end soon with everyone seeming to wind down so possibly Mumbo will join at the start of next season if he wants to. Maybe he'll visit hermitcraft for a finale episode but I wouldn't expect any plans for him to return this season
@@StarrChild.I mean you say that but grians base isn’t close to done… or scars… or tangos… so I don’t think it’s close
@@StarrChild. jevin mentioned that it´s half season
7:03 “Someone should make a song out of this”
Elybeatmaker has been summoned
Oure Lord and master
Elybeatmaker will/is be summoned
im leaving a reply here to see if u get famous or somthing
“WHO SUMMONED ME”
*Jono
Try the massive TNT world again when 1.20 comes out. I remember X saying something about them decoupling the physics from the main thread so entities shouldn't cause as much lag. You can also increase the amount of RAM that is allocated to minecraft in the launcher
The max ram you should have allocated to mc is like 4 or 8 gb as past that the game will run slower as java will be more resource intensive
OnlyMumbo could be disappointed at his computer not crashing
The accidental light surpressor is hilarious.
Love your videos Mumbo!! So glad to see you back in my notifications! 🥳🥳
Picked up the base model Studio with 32gb RAM couple months back, it’s by no means an RTX but the thing is a monster and plays shaded Minecraft easy. Sodium/Lithium/Phosphor/Starlight all make it even better. Definitely satisfied, and it eats 4K raw footage in Davinci for breakfast
@dragoneggbedrockbreaking5953 I would hate my life
Your Mac Studio is only using 8GB of RAM or something around that. You have to go to advanced and in the last option change 8GB to whatever allocation you want to assign the game to use. Hope this helps.
@Telleva it kinda helps with buffering chunks tho. I can only do 32 chunks with 32gb ram or up. Below 32 it gets pretty stuttery
@Telleva Adding more always matters some, even with java's terrible memory management. ESP if you use fabric mods that help fix memory leaks!
@Telleva This works great for me when using the standard Minecraft launcher.
yk if you change the jvm argument to above ~ 6GB you will see worse performance / exponentially decreasing gains. Java is bald.
As someone who played MC on Gen 1 Macbook Pros and G5 desktops, and then on later tried on 2012+ Macbook Pros, I'm actually impressed lol
yeah but compared to an rtx 2080 ti?
powerpc minecraft lol
@@sourpenguin360 hence my qualifiers
9:04 Mumbo being upset that his desk didn’t catch fire for some reason just made me laugh a lot
For anyone curious, the mac studio runs off of 48 cores , due to apple silicon just being multiple separate m1s, java can't run well when working with multiple cores, java also doesn't run off gpus. Also, sodium and stuff probably wouldn't help as much
Glad that Mumbo is back, waiting for that hermitcraft content :D
The chaos Mumbo brings is something I have missed
Oh boy. Those are some tricky standards to meet. I hope the mac can handle Minecraft! Excited to see whatever films you might make with it.
I never thought I would live the day where I heard someone saying: PLEASE CRASH!!! this was supposed to make you crash!!!!
I nearly died laughing xD
Thank you so much this video amused me so much!!!!
I've been a fan since hermitcraft season 4, and I'm sure a lot of people (including myself obviously) would want to hear your plans about the server. It's been a long time since the last hermitcraft video and I know that you've been up to a lot of stuff lately, but if you could make a video talking about your plan, it'd be awesome!
To break the game, try doing more layers of sand, crank up simulation and render distance (simulation distance might not exist on that version.), and put it higher up on the y axis so it doesn't get destroyed immediately.
That's what I thought.
1:51 - "It feels rather lovely to be on a form of Hermitcraft again"
I mean, you could rejoin season 9... Though I wouldn't blame you if at this point you felt it was better to just call it a loss and wait for season 10 to roll around again.
Though it would be pretty funny if you turned back up on season 9 right at the very end of the season, just as they're wrapping up their final S9 episodes, doing their last outros, just pop up and be like "I'm back! What did I miss?"
I feel like a lot of people think of performance on games as a linear graph as you increase your PC specs, but it's closer to a bell curve, especially with games like minecraft. The problem with using professional grade processors and GPUs for gaming is that a lot of games don't scale well across so many cores, it's to a point where it becomes useless to upgrade your PC for purely gaming performance. This is why things like the Mac Studio don't get thousands of FPS on minecraft, even though on paper it seems like it would. That being said, that machine is probably a beast for editing and/or film making
If you wanted an optimized setup for playing minecraft (you have a problem if you want to build a pc just to play minecraft) I've found that 4 and 6 core CPUs and most mid range and older GPUs work very well for minecraft, even older architectures like polaris for AMD can give very impressive frames. Using linux can also provide a significant frame boost over windows and mods like sodium and lithium can optimize minecraft and boost performance across a wide range of systems
I've been playing Java Edition on my M1 MacBook Air for over a year now after my PC died. Though it's nothing like the specs on the new Studio or a proper gaming PC, I'm impressed with the performance overall.
That is a lovely shader! It makes all the colors vibrant in a good way, and gives depth to the water!
I look for your videos all the time. Welcome back. Happy New Year. Hope it's a great one for you. Stay healthy and sane.
Mumbo’s channel fees like a netflix documentary. But like a sitcom for all ages
6:22 Is a line that shouldn't have gotten a kick out me, but did. I don't if it was the delivery, context, or me just being a very weird person, but I chuckled.
8:22 Those slime creatures is just peacefully vibing there not knowing something bad is gonna happen to them.
Why do I feel so much joy watching people push computers to the breaking point.
To be honest, it would be nice to see you back on Hermitcraft. Grian misses you a lot, and I'm pretty sure he is about to lose his mind. xD
Good to see you Mumbo! For me, the best part of your videos is how much FUN you have! Love the giggles! Makes me happy.
I feel that this hunt for a suitable machine and the subsequent building thereof should have been an LTT crossover video...
I don't think buying a mac studio would require an LTT crossover video, although a custom build would have been cool.
I get what you mean, I think you could build a cheaper system in windows with more power and flexibility. Hate to say it but apple is a company that people buy for status and flexing. They look pretty that's it. Performance is never Apple's forte.
@@Aliyah_666 yeah a beefy desktop and a beefy laptop would have been a better alternative, you can build an insane pc with like $5k and a $3k laptop (yes there are some) would have solved Mumbo's portability needs. And would have a wider software support than a Mac
@@Aliyah_666 I think Apple makes extremely tight hardware with a solid OS for a significant price premium. It might have been that given Mumbo's budget, this was the correct system to buy for his needs. But it would have been a heck of a video having Linus help spec out different potential solutions before coming to a purchase decision!
@@rudrasingh6354 I agree. The fact that people are arguing his choice is justified based on the fact its apple "premium" is insane. For Minecraft any laptop with a discrete GPU would crush his 7k mac. Im betting you could spec a laptop with 4-5x the performance for 1/7th the cost.
3:40
Mumbo has achieved seconds per frame, twice!
Mumbo u might want to check ur settings because I would get 700 fps on my M1 MacBook Air which was $1000 compared to your $7000. I have all my settings at default and I think there was like one thing I did to make it better. It might have been lunar client. Not sure…
He is playing at 5120x2880
@@SubsidingBird2and lunar client comes with ARM optimized software instead of basic Java and sodium installed with improved FPS significantly
@@vizender so does the vanilla client, but you have to toggle it on
@@vizenderno it doesn't, the vanilla client does not come with an ARM Java JRE runtime, nor does it come with sodium
Mumbo sounds like one of those villains who gets more and more irate that his nemesis keeps surviving his increasingly convoluted traps
This video proves once again that hardware will not solve our slow software problem. We must optimize the software, even in 2023! Developers unite!
I just dropped 650 dollars on a nice new laptop yesterday, and I have ATM8 on it. I am still having minecraft freeze and crash when my laptop is perfectly able to function independently and shut it down. Like, it just stops working, but my laptop doesn't freeze like my old one. This has shown me that the issues are within minecraft itself.
@@Flutistno3 Yep. Bedrock, for instance, can have a render distance of 96 chunks with no modifications on my Ryzen 3400 + GTX 1660 super with very few dropped frames (this is far enough to see all the way out to the outer end islands from the main one, 1536 blocks in every direction!). Bedrock has many other issues, such as long-standing game-breaking bugs and missing features, but it beats the Java edition of the game in every way when it comes to performance.
@@kaedenmurphy9937 Try the fabulously optimized mod pack, performance becomes much more consistent with it (it won't run as well at 32 chunks as bedrock, but it will be better at 12-16 chunks)
Meh, just throw even more hardware on it.
@@kaedenmurphy9937 You don't know how good it felt for me to go from getting probably 15 frames and constant crashes on Java Version on my old Windows XP pc to getting basically constant 60 fps and literally only one crash ever on Bedrock Version with my Windows 10 pc. Honestly I don't think I'll ever go back to Java Version.
Yaaaaaaayyyyyyy
Idk if ur doing any hermit craft soon but I’m excited for anything u make
Atleast he got on hermitcraft s8 for a minute. We atleat got to see him on some form of hermitcraft
To be honest I suspect if he does come back to hermitcraft, he'll wait until season 10 rolls around. I think it's a case that he's missed too many of the antics like the cross-over, Ren's power trip and others for him to go back and fit back in seamlessly. And with a complete fresh start he'll probably feel more comfortable
@@joeogle7729 i think it will truly depend on how long they plan to go with season 9 tbh
Minecraft Java Edition is a very unoptimized game, mostly because it runs on Java. Using performance mods like Lithium, Sodium, FerriteCore, Starlight, etc. will definetely help with performance across the board.
Something I hugely recommend is a modpack on Curseforge called Overly Optimized, which includes a whole lot of fabric performance mods. I've got a pretty cracked PC (i5 13600K, RTX3080) which gets around 160-200fps in vanilla MC. With OVOP, I get around 1,200fps without shaders, and with shaders around 250fps.
yeah i tried bedrock for the first time in ages yesterday and it may be bad gameplay wise but man is it better optimised
"I've come into a world of many chickens"
- Mumbo, 2023
9:05 “My desk was meant to catch fire *aggressive impressed inhale of disappointment*”
Install Sodium next and triple that FPS 🤗
But yeah if all or most games could be played on a Mac, I'd get one immediately based on using the M1 Macbook Pro at work for editing. MacOS is really satisfying and the M1 and M2 chips are insanely efficient! But, alas, at home my PC is purely for gaming and I don't play only Minecraft unfortunately.
Is that a lowkey saying that you need to be salty to run Minecraft better on M1/2 chips lol
Really the issue is most things are made for Windows and then later adapted for Mac meaning theres always efficiency issues.
@@craytherlaygaming2852 no no, the issue is things are made for windows, then adapted for mac, and then linux is ignored.
@@aerbon Steam is helping with that, the steam deck is also speeding up the process since its based in a linux.
@@FastForwardPlans Yeah i'm really glad about that, but proton / wine is just a compatibility tool. it doesn't always work and i'd like to see some proper native releases.
Alright kids, before you start figuring out how to con your parents into dropping $7,000 on your next "gaming" PC, be aware that Minecraft is a CPU intensive game but basically hates multi-core CPUs. A 20-core with hyperthreading CPU is great for everything _but_ Minecraft. My $200 poverty PC can run Java Minecraft at ~80fps *with shaders.* That's with a decade old 2.53GHz Xeon quad-core, 16GB RAM and a 4GB GTX 1050Ti.
The biggest numbers possible don't make for a great gaming rig.
This video was highly entertaining. In other news I'm almost positive that the music used at the end is the same as one of the tracks used for a fiction podcast I listen to. Nice touch.
I'd strongly recommend trying the fabric suite of performance-enhancing mods (e.g. sodium, lithium, etc.) instead of optifine.
Starlight ftw
For me at least opticians is better
Yeah optifine is pretty much outdated at this point because of fabric and iris
I should give it a try.
7:04 As a producer, *challenge accepted.*
How'd this go
Imagine having fps when playing minecraft. When I play I have spf instead
It brought me pain to hear mumbo say that he was dissapointed with ONLY 300 fps, I'm used to playing most games at 20-30 fps on my laptop.
I wonder if you also considered going remote, essentially by having a server room somewhere that never moves and can be super loud. You then can use any laptop or small computer to connect to it from anywhere
I would love to see how to plan to travel with this new setup, I have a small form factor PC myself and I'm always curious to see what people come up with in terms of protection and how everything is stored inside a carry case.
Mumbos videos never dissapoint 👍
this is the first time ive herd mumbo say "WHEN WILL YOU DIE?" to an intimate object
you can use a modpack like fabulously optimized to boost your fps and have optifine shaders
Just ask Linus when you need your next computer
@mumbojumbo please please use a pc
@@gklabs he will use his macbook studio for video editing probably, because he is filmer
My rtx 3050 runs better than his mac
@@MjcIII don’t forget that he is recording at the same time and probably playing at a higher resolution than you
@@jakob7116 yeah at the start of the video he said it was a 5k display 0:36
In all honesty it seems like you've gotten a damn near perfect device for your work. If I were you, I would have gotten a macbook pro 14 for the travel and occasional gaming or something like the Asus Flow devices with the external GPU or Asus Duo or the razer creator laptop (mac vs windows so up to you).
And for a primary home PC with a thunderbolt dock and some KVM switches that switch between a tower PC and a laptop. But the way you've done it is as close to best on average at all things. The way I'd do it is a lot more work.
Love the concept! Can't believe it survived the Sand world, and the chickens! Cool idea :)
You should also try to put a BUNCH of mobs in one place with the max entity cramming being something huge so they don't start dying, and just see how high you can go with it!
HEYY MUMBO! you've missed a lot of hermit craft, and there was a big thing! Happy new year though!!
Oh, I'm sure he knows
Yeah, it’s a little sad that he missed not only the King Ren arc but also the Empires crossover arc, plus Grian misses him
But I understand why Mumbo hasn’t uploaded any hermit craft videos, if the description is of any indication, he is working on filming projects and maybe even travelling around at the current moment
Your Mac may be using Rosetta to run Minecraft. You can use (I think) MultiMC to run the game natively on M1 - instead of the translation layer.
Combining this with Fabric, Sodium, Lithium and Iris for shaders you can push the FPS higher. Running Optifine doesn’t help frames too much compared to sodium.
i thought the m1's now run mc natively?
@@emryspaperart They might be, I don’t know if they run it yet. But hence the reason I said “may” because it did run shaders at 60 in his video. But Mumbo should consider running Sodium and stuff. When he goes back to Hermitcraft he is going to need Fabric anyways since Simple Voice Chat and all
@@retrozeboi i double checked and yeah the support was added with 1.19. i have no experience w sodium (i still use forge for mods lol) but i agree and it would be interesting to see him do a second version of this with all the optimisation mods they often use on hc
@@emryspaperart Ah good to know they made it run natively now, kinda about time if you ask me..
I mean I know he probably wont do this, but I think he should use MultiMC just to separate the instances, since MultiMC makes a new Minecraft folder basically. So he could have a clean Redstone world MC and a Hermitcraft MC, running things like Sodium for FPS, Lithium and Phosphor for lighting, there are also memory leak fixes and smoother boot up mods, and countless of visual mods that I need on every install of MC I have xD
Let’s gooo a new mumbo vid! You are the best Minecraft TH-camr mumbo!
Edit: man seeing mumbo back on the s8 world again is so nostalgic even though it was literally like a few months ago
You’re first if you don’t count the bot
Agreed
Yes
@@engtilde ik cause the bots have this thing that literally lets them comment immediately when the vid is posted, it’s annoying lol
I don’t think he’s a bot but yay a new Mumbo video and happy new year!
I LOVE your videos!
My name ❤❤
Very nice
Agreed
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Always love watching Mumbo videos
I played Minecraft on a mostly min-spec late 2009 imac for about 10 years. Upgrading to 12 gigs of ram was great, but getting a pc built to exactly the specs I wanted was better.
I play everyday in an M1 and i love it. There are a few perf mods worth having. I assume you have them though
I remember I used to play on a Mac pretty much my entire childhood. It actually ran minecraft really well. My problem is that I was unable to play a majority of steam games and quite a few other applications. I will say, I do enjoy my PC a lot more.
These days if you want a computer to easily play the largest possible selection of games, your best option is, honestly, Linux. Proton (really the WINE project it's built on top of) siloes each game to run in its own dedicated environment, meaning it's a lot easier a lot of the time to run older games (like, Windows 95 old) through their compatibility layer than it is to run "natively" in Windows 10/11.
@@GSBarlev you could run your pc with a vm manager os and using gpu passthrough to run whatever os you need in a vm and play games with it. thats my dream pc but i doubt ill get one good enough to do that (virtualisation isnt perfect so you'd need extra strong specs)
@@sahar1213 I don't think macs have discrete GPUs that can be passed through. But yeah, KVM/QEMU gives near-bare-metal performance, and when you're passing through a GPU, it should be almost as good as dual booting. Still, there's zero reason to run a VM of Windows 98 (unless you're Linus Tech Tips trying to draw the eyeballs) when WINE is so darn good.
@@GSBarlev well, i first arrived at this theoretical setup for security, since i could perfectly isolate my linux vm for programming and windows vm for games (which the devs could have put malicious code in), and the ability to save snapshots.
when i buy a new pc (i am currently using a shitty old laptop) ill probably use dual boot though, since it would be way simplier to set up and use, cpu will perform better (cpu virtualization is good but not perfect), and i can anyway encrypt the disks separately.
also the gpu may not be able to be isolated, since different technologies, capitalism (like nvidia having powerful vgpu technology but locking it behind their 2000 dollar server farm gpus) and more stuff i wouldnt know since im not a gpu expert
@@GSBarlev Also can WINE really run all windows games on linux? I thought only some games were compatible
4:45 Holy forking short he was able to move with nearly 19,000 entities on the ground.
Thanks for this video, the other day I make a video with my new Mac Studio, but the basic model using shaders.
But thanks I want to test something similar what you did, and see if is to much difference between your top $7,000 Mac Studio vs my basic model Mac Studio.
7:55 Crafting diamond leggings be like:
They really do be like that
Have anyone else noticed the grian waffle on the back of mumbo's head at 1:07 ?
Yes
He still has Grian's soul i guess.
@@frogbertthe3rd191 i envision the rift opening again for mumbo to come back
For 7000 i want to be able to blow up a million piece of tnt and still have 150 frames a second
Edit: holy shit thats my most liked comment ever
Edit 2 : i cant believe i have to say this but i was obviously exaggerating
From 2000$ onwards its diminishing returns sadly
That’s very unreasonable.
A million tnt and 150 fps is extremely unreasonable with the amount of entities that entails.
@@toottoot2756 absolutely no it isnt
@@opal9583 yes it is 💀 Java edition MC is a horribly optimized game. It literally runs on 1 thread
“Mac isn’t meant for games!”
Apple Mac studios on it’s way to survive the sand world:
"Wut? This thing has crashed and created aart?" 6:12
Unsure how you’re running, but if you are using the native ARM Java and native ARM Minecraft with Fabric + Sodium + Iris + Lithium, you should get ~3-5x the FPS based on other’s tests.
Yeah this exactly
Yessss always love when mumbo comes out with a new fun video!
Now the video rendering times!!! That will be so delightful to work with.
Fun video. Thank you 😊
4:24 reminds me of the museum of stolen moments, no?
Anyone?
6:37 The voice of the Minecraft chicken god. 🐔
do you have any advice on how to play minecraft at a custom fullscreen resolution? My M1 Pro Macbook doesn't seem to... like changing fullscreen resolutions. at all
ALSO advice on the FPS: Using ManyMC for Apple silicon with Fabric mods (Sodium and Iris specifically) and a native ARM64 installation of Java can increase performance quite a LOT. My M1 Pro can play MC at around 500FPS without shaders and 150-200 with shaders. It's all up to preventing the CPU from getting bottlenecked by Rosetta
Wait until he discovers cmd + W and realizes that this keybind cannot be changed or disabled.
All we need now is to see you on Hermitcraft. From a Fan who misses Mumbo and Grian in Hermitcraft sending messages via Minecart. Oh the good old days.
had you used the fabulously optimized pack, you probably would’ve had a much better experience performance-wise than with optifine
1:07 the grian waffe lol 😂