I am going with the standard battery for the Mini 4 Pro since this reduced paperwork requirement under 250g is a major selling point of the mini series. One thing I am wondering is whether the standard battery results in more nimble flight behavior, such as faster acceleration and turns etc., less mass involved when maneuvering.
Thanks for the comment and you're going to love these newer camera drones like the Mini 3 Pro. It flies like a dream and can capture some amazing pics and videos. Take the plunge and you'll have an exciting summer ahead of you. Rick
I would prefer the larger battery, but as it will take the drone over 250 it will have to have to have remote ID. Did DJI include that feature in the mini pro 3 since it was designed to fly under 250 G where remote ID is not required? I would hate to have to do an after market fix to it. Thanks
As of September of 2022, DJI notified all Mini 3 Pro owners (in my case, via e-mail) that there was a mandatory firmware update which would force the RID transmission at all times, regardless of which battery the craft was using, & 1nce updated, no "rollback" was possible. --> Pro Tip! Always check & read the details of firmware & software update, prior to downloading & installing!
Rick, I recently picked up the Mavic3 thermal. When I was taking it off and checking out some of the camera shots, I was acting like you when you did your open box with the mini three pro. I felt like a little 10-year-old kid on Christmas morning! Too funny I can’t even imagine how you would respond if you had this Drone. You definitely need to check it out. The camera is nothing short of stellar.
Thanks for the post and I agree with you. I have flown that drone but haven't had a need to add it to the fleet since I have a few other Thermal models already flying. I was blown away by the camera on the Mavic 3 Pro (which I do fly) and can only imaging the improvements to the new version. Now you have me thinking....
Thank a lot for the post and I'm glad that you enjoyed the clip. I'll have a lot more content posting this week on drones and other tech so be sure to stay tuned. Rick
Thanks for the post and both of the batteries can be used in the same hub, at the same time to charge them. Just slide them in and start charging. If you need a compatible wall charger, we designed one you can check out here that is perfect for the DJI Mini - www.dronevalley.com/store/p469/DroneValleyCarCharger.html
Thanks my question was about how it would fly with the larger battery. Good to know it was designed for the larger one and then they added the smaller for weight.
If it does, it provides very little added stability. These sub 250g drones don't really fly that well in wind. If you are flying in a windy area, I'd go with a 500g + drone like an Air 2S.
Dan, any added weight gives the drone a little more ballast and increases it's stability in the air. The difference in weight between the batteries is small so the impact is minimal but every little bit helps.
Mark, I would agree with you on the original Mavic Mini but since the Mini 2 was released, these newer versions fly as well as my larger drones in string winds of less than 25 mph. he big advantage to the Mini 3 Pro is it's smaller size, which makes it easy to bring more places. That way you'll capture footage you might have missed by not dragging a larger drone along for the trip. Thanks for the post.
I’m on the fence with it. Legally we (UK)can’t fly out of line of sight. So having a battery which offers 8 minutes more specified time isnt worth the cost to us to buy it here as it’s not officially on sale. I have 5 batteries and it’s rarely an issue having to come back in and fit a new battery. Plus you could always say it’s better to have more time, but then that’s equally as likely with the bigger battery. I like the bigger battery but given the cost is newly the same as 2 standard batteries here I’m not too sure it’s worth it, plus that doesn’t take into account the rules that it goes into being now over 250g.
I appreciate you posting and I understand about the local laws being different where you're flying and it's a little easier here in the States. If you exceed the 250g limit here it just requires you to spend $5 to register the drone and you can use the same registration number for all of your quads. No additional testing required. We also have to maintain a VLOS so for me that's about 2500' with a beacon on the drone so I'm not worried about extra distance, I just like to have the extra time to make sure I can do a few "runs" and capture some interesting angles of a location so I have the footage I need. I'll have more content posting this week so be sure to stop back. Rick
I totally agree, in the Netherlands we have the same rules. Though I have to say it's not the local law that prevents us to buy and use the battery but it's DJI that does not want to ship to us in Europe. Personally I find it my own responsibility to fly with a bigger and heavier battery and register or get a drone license (which most of us have anyways).
Hey Rick I have an off topic question. first I must say I love the channel. You taught me a lot and I purchased the original magic mini as soon as it was available (actually I bought 2, I have a grandson. I trust your evaluations, love your enthusiastic drone mindset. I am thinking of getting the mini 3 pro. Can you suggest options of sell my originals as to offset the cost of a 3 pro? I in your opinion do you feel is is possible for a firmware update to include a follow me option? That would be the ultimate decision point for me. I and willing to wait for that in a 249 gram option. thanks your thoughts Bill. PS I have to say I have gotten a lot of milage for a few years with your Snowman "do you smell carrots" joke. Kids of all ages love it. Thanks again Bill
Yep, any time a company provides these types of performance specifications, they are all "best case" scenarios. Think about the miles per gallon spec that car manufacturers have been giving us for year. The key here is that you get a lot more flight time out of the Plus battery and its still one of the longest on the market today.
I think it's important to know that once you use the extra battery, you'll need remote ID starting Sept 2023, which people might not be too fond off. Remote ID will track, your altitude, speed, lat/longitude, as well as your remote's location. as well as time stamps for everything. No one knows how strict drone law enforcement will be in the future, but that information can be used against you. You can be fined for going above 400feet, and they will have proof. You can be fined breaking line of sight and they will have proof. Fly dangerously over a large group of people? They know that your drone was flying over them. A guy once got fined for 182k for breaking laws, and he got caught because he live streamed to youtube with time stamps which is that proof they needed. With Remote ID, they wouldn't need you to live stream it, they have all the proof they need. Again, is the faa really going to pull up your flight history and use it against you? Probably not. But it's just worth noting that they can as soon as you get the extra battery.
Thanks for the post but you're mistaken on most of this. Remote ID is ONLY active when you're flying. No data is logged anywhere for later review. If you're violating FAA rules, someone would need to witness this (digitally) while you were actually flying to prove it. The intent of Remote ID is to keep pilots from doing exactly what you're describing and it's a good thing. If you're flying over 400', you're in the commercial aircraft zone and a hazard to navigation. If you fly beyond visual line of sight, same hazard. Remote ID is designed to prevent the knucklehead pilot that's new to the hobby that decides its a great idea to fly into a stadium to "get a better look". With Remote ID, the security folks know who they need to talk to. Bottom line, fly within the rules and Remote ID is no big deal.
@@Dronevalley I appreciate you clearing this for me. So they only know that information when you're flying, but I'm sure they store or log that information else where right? I don't mean to break the law intentionally, it's just that sometimes you can lose line of sight accidentally when you're focused on flying. So post flight they can't just take a look at my logs and fine me or any guidelines/laws I broke?
Nope, it's only required to be broadcasted while you're flying and not recorded anywhere. The other thing is that you'll be broadcasting over Wifi so the range is limited as well. Someone would have to actually be close to your position to even receive the data since Wifi is only powerful enough to transmit a few thousand feet at most. Honestly, we all fly a little farther than line of sight at times, especially in a wooded or crowded area. They key thing you need to do is be aware of the airspace you're flying in so you can react if needed when a plane approaches. I hope that helps and have a great summer of flying!
@@Dronevalley Thank you very much for clarifying this. Hopefully they don't required cellular data on our devices as well in the future, who knows what law makers will do
It's not gotten that bad yet in the states but it's just a $5 fee for all of your drones and not worth the risk to save a little coin. The real reason these lighter drones were carved out of the regulation was for the smaller "toy" drones you buy at WalMart for your kids to fly in the house. It's incredible that DJI was able to essentially cram the tech from a Mavic Air into an air-frame that weighs less than 250g and kind of got around the rules.
@Dronevalley if I register, do they now know where I am all times when I'm flying? What does registration actually mean ? Be transparent please. You can use your specific state regulations as your sample
A minor correction, DJI product specifications list (or, used to list, unless there's been an update or modification to those figures) the Mini 3 Pro with the "Plus" battery having a flight time of 47 minutes. I know, I have 1, & also, the newer Mini 4 Pro.
Thanks for the post and I haven't noticed the difference but now that you've mentioned it, I'll have to check it out the next time I'm flying. Thanks !
I believe it’s safe to say that most of us don’t have a problem with a $5 registration fee, I believe the real concern is when remote ID starts. And again, I think probably most of us have no issue flying by the rules. Speaking for myself, I have no problem with being held accountable. Not that I’m some kind of saint, lol, but I’m all for keeping our drones visible to manned aircraft, and even security issues like someone flying over a large crowd. So I get all that. What I DON’T “get”, is the need to have the location of the controller visible on the ground, for anyone with the app on their phone. And while I realize this video was posted several months ago, it seems there have been some changes in what remote ID will involve, it’s just hard to sort out exactly what’s correct or not. In researching this topic lately, it seems there WAS (or maybe is?) a possibility of a network based form of remote ID. Also I believe there is, or was, a proposal for historical records of flights. Again, not sure if that’s still the case or not, but it’s a little hard to know what to believe. But for me personally, the idea of having my location visible to the neighborhood Karen, or worse, some sort of criminal, is a serious matter. On some of these other drone content channels there have been people shot at for flying drones. Just saying.
Just curious, I’m in southeastern United States. Do you know if when I put the plus battery in my unregistered drone if it will read that’s it’s the heavier battery and keep me from flying until I register it?
@@samtullier7566 That is EXACTLY the same question I was thinking. I suppose maybe you’d get some sort of on screen message before you take off. Either prompting you to register with the FAA, or the “I accept full liability…” thing where you’d have to check off the “I agree” box.
The standard battery has more than enough capacity for me , here in the UK we take the CAA exam to receive our flyer ID and operator ID certification, the flyer ID lasts 5 years and the operator licence currently costs 9 GBP ( 11 US dollars). My personal opinion ( I stress personal opinion) is regardless of size of the drone ( toys excluded), if you cannot pass the exam and therefore be fully understanding of ALL the rules and regulations then you you should not be allowed to fly even sub 250g.
Yep, once you cross the 250 gram weight threshold you'll have to register it with the FAA and RID is needed. Neither of them are a big deal to me and well worth the extra flight time. Thanks for the post!
I know and thought that was odd. I think it has more to do with a last minute decision to offer the drone as a standalone (good thing) and the production department (box, packing, graphics) needing time to actually put the kit together. It's offered on Amazon and the DJI site as a "reserve" so they will eventually have them in stock.
Thanks for the post but I think the audio sounds great and it eliminates the hassle of the lapel mic in the studio. I do use one for the clips I do outdoors and they work well in that scenario.
Great points! Getting to your capture location can be more than half the flight time, thus.. 8 mins does make a BIG difference! Thank You
Thanks pal!
Thank you for the drone dgi explanation video
I am going with the standard battery for the Mini 4 Pro since this reduced paperwork requirement under 250g is a major selling point of the mini series. One thing I am wondering is whether the standard battery results in more nimble flight behavior, such as faster acceleration and turns etc., less mass involved when maneuvering.
Fresh like no. 47, new sub and big respect sir. Very professional and detailed video! Thank you for your diligence.
Nice, been thinking about getting one of these. Been flying RC Planes and Helicopters for 20 years.
Thanks for the comment and you're going to love these newer camera drones like the Mini 3 Pro. It flies like a dream and can capture some amazing pics and videos. Take the plunge and you'll have an exciting summer ahead of you. Rick
@@Dronevalley you bet Rick, thanks for the quick response. 😉
I would prefer the larger battery, but as it will take the drone over 250 it will have to have to have remote ID. Did DJI include that feature in the mini pro 3 since it was designed to fly under 250 G where remote ID is not required? I would hate to have to do an after market fix to it. Thanks
As of September of 2022, DJI notified all Mini 3 Pro owners (in my case, via e-mail) that there was a mandatory firmware update which would force the RID transmission at all times, regardless of which battery the craft was using, & 1nce updated, no "rollback" was possible.
--> Pro Tip! Always check & read the details of firmware & software update, prior to downloading & installing!
Rick, I recently picked up the Mavic3 thermal. When I was taking it off and checking out some of the camera shots, I was acting like you when you did your open box with the mini three pro. I felt like a little 10-year-old kid on Christmas morning! Too funny
I can’t even imagine how you would respond if you had this Drone. You definitely need to check it out. The camera is nothing short of stellar.
Thanks for the post and I agree with you. I have flown that drone but haven't had a need to add it to the fleet since I have a few other Thermal models already flying. I was blown away by the camera on the Mavic 3 Pro (which I do fly) and can only imaging the improvements to the new version. Now you have me thinking....
Does it work with regular mini 3, the battery plus?
Fantastic info. Thanks.
Thank a lot for the post and I'm glad that you enjoyed the clip. I'll have a lot more content posting this week on drones and other tech so be sure to stay tuned. Rick
Does the same two way charging hub charge both kinds of batteries or do you have to get a separate kind of two way charger for the plus batteries?
Thanks for the post and both of the batteries can be used in the same hub, at the same time to charge them. Just slide them in and start charging. If you need a compatible wall charger, we designed one you can check out here that is perfect for the DJI Mini - www.dronevalley.com/store/p469/DroneValleyCarCharger.html
Hey Rick, I remember winning a DJI mini in one of your drone give aways ...thanks!!
Thank you for this video. Is there a prefered brand of battery to buy or avoid for the Mini 3 Pro?
Thanks my question was about how it would fly with the larger battery.
Good to know it was designed for the larger one and then they added the smaller for weight.
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Lynn, thanks a lot for stopping by and I hope you had a great Holiday!
It does seem a bit more stable to me in higher winds with the heavier battery.
I've got one on order and I was wondering about the wind stability. Good to know. Thanks
If it's really windy though, the Air 2S comes out!
@@gra8pmkn That's an option I wish I had 😊
Does the increased weight aid in stability in windy conditions?
Yes of course
If it does, it provides very little added stability. These sub 250g drones don't really fly that well in wind. If you are flying in a windy area, I'd go with a 500g + drone like an Air 2S.
Dan, any added weight gives the drone a little more ballast and increases it's stability in the air. The difference in weight between the batteries is small so the impact is minimal but every little bit helps.
Mark, I would agree with you on the original Mavic Mini but since the Mini 2 was released, these newer versions fly as well as my larger drones in string winds of less than 25 mph. he big advantage to the Mini 3 Pro is it's smaller size, which makes it easy to bring more places. That way you'll capture footage you might have missed by not dragging a larger drone along for the trip. Thanks for the post.
@@Dronevalley admittedly I want a Mini 3 Pro and a Mavic 3 Classic, but can only afford one.
I’m on the fence with it. Legally we (UK)can’t fly out of line of sight. So having a battery which offers 8 minutes more specified time isnt worth the cost to us to buy it here as it’s not officially on sale. I have 5 batteries and it’s rarely an issue having to come back in and fit a new battery. Plus you could always say it’s better to have more time, but then that’s equally as likely with the bigger battery. I like the bigger battery but given the cost is newly the same as 2 standard batteries here I’m not too sure it’s worth it, plus that doesn’t take into account the rules that it goes into being now over 250g.
I appreciate you posting and I understand about the local laws being different where you're flying and it's a little easier here in the States. If you exceed the 250g limit here it just requires you to spend $5 to register the drone and you can use the same registration number for all of your quads. No additional testing required. We also have to maintain a VLOS so for me that's about 2500' with a beacon on the drone so I'm not worried about extra distance, I just like to have the extra time to make sure I can do a few "runs" and capture some interesting angles of a location so I have the footage I need. I'll have more content posting this week so be sure to stop back. Rick
I totally agree, in the Netherlands we have the same rules. Though I have to say it's not the local law that prevents us to buy and use the battery but it's DJI that does not want to ship to us in Europe. Personally I find it my own responsibility to fly with a bigger and heavier battery and register or get a drone license (which most of us have anyways).
Thank you for sharing
Do you really get those advertised flight times that you mentioned?
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Hey Rick I have an off topic question. first I must say I love the channel. You taught me a lot and I purchased the original magic mini as soon as it was available (actually I bought 2, I have a grandson. I trust your evaluations, love your enthusiastic drone mindset. I am thinking of getting the mini 3 pro. Can you suggest options of sell my originals as to offset the cost of a 3 pro? I in your opinion do you feel is is possible for a firmware update to include a follow me option? That would be the ultimate decision point for me. I and willing to wait for that in a 249 gram option. thanks your thoughts Bill. PS I have to say I have gotten a lot of milage for a few years with your Snowman "do you smell carrots" joke. Kids of all ages love it. Thanks again Bill
Plus battery is rated for up to 47 minutes of flight time so 13 minutes more then the regular. Up to is the key.
Yep, any time a company provides these types of performance specifications, they are all "best case" scenarios. Think about the miles per gallon spec that car manufacturers have been giving us for year. The key here is that you get a lot more flight time out of the Plus battery and its still one of the longest on the market today.
So I don’t need 107 with heavier battery? Over 250g? Just register?
You only need the license if using your drone for commercial purposes. Over 250g you just need to register.
I think it's important to know that once you use the extra battery, you'll need remote ID starting Sept 2023, which people might not be too fond off. Remote ID will track, your altitude, speed, lat/longitude, as well as your remote's location. as well as time stamps for everything. No one knows how strict drone law enforcement will be in the future, but that information can be used against you. You can be fined for going above 400feet, and they will have proof. You can be fined breaking line of sight and they will have proof. Fly dangerously over a large group of people? They know that your drone was flying over them. A guy once got fined for 182k for breaking laws, and he got caught because he live streamed to youtube with time stamps which is that proof they needed. With Remote ID, they wouldn't need you to live stream it, they have all the proof they need.
Again, is the faa really going to pull up your flight history and use it against you? Probably not. But it's just worth noting that they can as soon as you get the extra battery.
Thanks for the post but you're mistaken on most of this. Remote ID is ONLY active when you're flying. No data is logged anywhere for later review. If you're violating FAA rules, someone would need to witness this (digitally) while you were actually flying to prove it. The intent of Remote ID is to keep pilots from doing exactly what you're describing and it's a good thing. If you're flying over 400', you're in the commercial aircraft zone and a hazard to navigation. If you fly beyond visual line of sight, same hazard. Remote ID is designed to prevent the knucklehead pilot that's new to the hobby that decides its a great idea to fly into a stadium to "get a better look". With Remote ID, the security folks know who they need to talk to. Bottom line, fly within the rules and Remote ID is no big deal.
@@Dronevalley I appreciate you clearing this for me. So they only know that information when you're flying, but I'm sure they store or log that information else where right? I don't mean to break the law intentionally, it's just that sometimes you can lose line of sight accidentally when you're focused on flying. So post flight they can't just take a look at my logs and fine me or any guidelines/laws I broke?
Nope, it's only required to be broadcasted while you're flying and not recorded anywhere. The other thing is that you'll be broadcasting over Wifi so the range is limited as well. Someone would have to actually be close to your position to even receive the data since Wifi is only powerful enough to transmit a few thousand feet at most. Honestly, we all fly a little farther than line of sight at times, especially in a wooded or crowded area. They key thing you need to do is be aware of the airspace you're flying in so you can react if needed when a plane approaches. I hope that helps and have a great summer of flying!
@@Dronevalley Thank you very much for clarifying this. Hopefully they don't required cellular data on our devices as well in the future, who knows what law makers will do
Yeah the drone police will be flying around checking your drone weight
It's not gotten that bad yet in the states but it's just a $5 fee for all of your drones and not worth the risk to save a little coin. The real reason these lighter drones were carved out of the regulation was for the smaller "toy" drones you buy at WalMart for your kids to fly in the house. It's incredible that DJI was able to essentially cram the tech from a Mavic Air into an air-frame that weighs less than 250g and kind of got around the rules.
It's not about the drone police wandering around with scales, it's about insurance when you run into a problem...
@Dronevalley if I register, do they now know where I am all times when I'm flying?
What does registration actually mean ? Be transparent please. You can use your specific state regulations as your sample
A minor correction, DJI product specifications list (or, used to list, unless there's been an update or modification to those figures) the Mini 3 Pro with the "Plus" battery having a flight time of 47 minutes. I know, I have 1, & also, the newer Mini 4 Pro.
I’ve noticed the 250g battery makes it a little more quiet but the heavier battery makes it more stable
Thanks for the post and I haven't noticed the difference but now that you've mentioned it, I'll have to check it out the next time I'm flying. Thanks !
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I believe it’s safe to say that most of us don’t have a problem with a $5 registration fee, I believe the real concern is when remote ID starts. And again, I think probably most of us have no issue flying by the rules. Speaking for myself, I have no problem with being held accountable. Not that I’m some kind of saint, lol, but I’m all for keeping our drones visible to manned aircraft, and even security issues like someone flying over a large crowd. So I get all that. What I DON’T “get”, is the need to have the location of the controller visible on the ground, for anyone with the app on their phone. And while I realize this video was posted several months ago, it seems there have been some changes in what remote ID will involve, it’s just hard to sort out exactly what’s correct or not. In researching this topic lately, it seems there WAS (or maybe is?) a possibility of a network based form of remote ID. Also I believe there is, or was, a proposal for historical records of flights. Again, not sure if that’s still the case or not, but it’s a little hard to know what to believe. But for me personally, the idea of having my location visible to the neighborhood Karen, or worse, some sort of criminal, is a serious matter. On some of these other drone content channels there have been people shot at for flying drones. Just saying.
Just curious, I’m in southeastern United States. Do you know if when I put the plus battery in my unregistered drone if it will read that’s it’s the heavier battery and keep me from flying until I register it?
@@samtullier7566 That is EXACTLY the same question I was thinking. I suppose maybe you’d get some sort of on screen message before you take off. Either prompting you to register with the FAA, or the “I accept full liability…” thing where you’d have to check off the “I agree” box.
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The standard battery has more than enough capacity for me , here in the UK we take the CAA exam to receive our flyer ID and operator ID certification, the flyer ID lasts 5 years and the operator licence currently costs 9 GBP ( 11 US dollars). My personal opinion ( I stress personal opinion) is regardless of size of the drone ( toys excluded), if you cannot pass the exam and therefore be fully understanding of ALL the rules and regulations then you you should not be allowed to fly even sub 250g.
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The plus battery is way louder..
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My issue with bigger battery is RID is required.
Yep, once you cross the 250 gram weight threshold you'll have to register it with the FAA and RID is needed. Neither of them are a big deal to me and well worth the extra flight time. Thanks for the post!
Hi Rick, the DJI Mini 3 without controller is not currently available. The DJI cash grab.
I know and thought that was odd. I think it has more to do with a last minute decision to offer the drone as a standalone (good thing) and the production department (box, packing, graphics) needing time to actually put the kit together. It's offered on Amazon and the DJI site as a "reserve" so they will eventually have them in stock.
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1:19 Have you actually tried and times the battery?! There's no way you can get 34 minutes out of it in real world conditions!
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Maybe consider getting a lapel microphone
Thanks for the post but I think the audio sounds great and it eliminates the hassle of the lapel mic in the studio. I do use one for the clips I do outdoors and they work well in that scenario.
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