BMW X1 xDrive23i Review - The baby SUV in the BMW family
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- The new third generation BMW X1 is the smallest SUV in the BMW family and comes with a huge range of engine and powertrain options. In this video I drive the xDrive23i, a mild hybrid petrol with xDrive. An impressive package in both urban and rural driving, but it's not without fault.
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The "intermittent slight delay" is due to two things, the transmission is actually a manual transmission with dual clutch and also contains mild hybrid. In some cases, you don't have the mild hybrid charged and the dual clutch needs to sync as you set off. Spend the time and learn the voice commands, it really is a better way as you can have both hands on the wheel. If you have music cranked, you don't need to take a hand off the wheel to turn it down to name voice control even better.
08:00: The car is built for the left hand drive German (and many other) market. BMW decided not to switch the armrest around. Also, the gear lever is farther away from you as a result, and the volume control is closest to you as opposed to being on the farther side, as BMW designed it to be.
Purchased the petrol MSport with all the kit, arrived late October 2022 in Australia. Only full electric or petrol at launch available. Great car, amazing tech … esp. the “key”, which is an electronic card in my Apple wallet on my phone. Downsides include the climate control being screen based, bmw voice command for navigation often can’t sort the address, and the road noise (run flat tyres and 20” wheels?). I tend to use Siri for calls and navigation. Otherwise, it suits our needs. Excellent and accurate review. New sub here.
Ooh 20” and run flats that must be a firm ride I’m looking at the msport but the firmness is a concern would only be on 19” though do you have m adaptive suspension is comfort actually comfortable ? Thanks
20 inch and M, that ruins every Bmw.
Couldn't agree more about physical versus touch screen problem. We can't look at or touch a phone but can take our eyes off the road to navigate a touchscreen menu (apparently)
As for the armrest (I think the design committee thought do we adapt for the UK market ? No was the response 😂)
I enjoyed watching the Video Review. The Best Small SUV on sale with some great materials featured 😊
Very good review. Very well shot and answered all my questions. Well done! 👍🏼
Thanks 👍
Plug in hybrids are the cars that are in between! When they run on engine alone, as intended at times, they are lugging around very weighty flat batteries which in turn makes the car terribly inefficient until you are able to charge it again. Given you will likely not travel much more than 50 miles on battery alone, that will be a lot for many people.
I've got 23d and very happy with it 😊
You can change the climate and pretty much everything else with voice control. (Even if the central screen didn’t work). The voice control was brilliant and very intuitive when I test drove this car, recommend you try it if you still have the car.
Thank you, best review ever👍
I love the looks of the new X1 😍
I think it is just the nature DSG. My Golf does this. You just can’t go from full brake to throttle too quickly. Just release the brake a bit in anticipation of moving
Cheers for a top review. Mines on order for early spring. Liked the voice control very good ….. the backs very sporty looking. It looks like an suv whereas some are just rounded
Enjoy it
Great review Pete. You can review the plug-in hybrid version of the X1 engine now quite easily. The new 2 series active tourer is based on the same platform as the X1 and has all the same engines (except the full electric). I personally have the 2 series 230e xdrive MSport active tourer. What I found interesting was your comment about the intermittent hesitation from a standstill. When I tested the 2 series I had the same mild hybrid to use as you and found exactly the same issue. Luckily I didn’t cancel my order as the plug-in version doesn’t have the hesitation issue at all. Please test the plug-in version of the X1 (or even the 2 series) as I would love to see what you think. 😎👍
I think it has a great exterior shape, almost like it has been chiseled. The interior is also very nice with great twin screens and front seats as look quite comfortable.
As soon as you started discussing the heater controls and other screen operations, for me the car was off my list of cars | would buy.
Great video mate
I still find car prices today incredible.£47k for an X1 and we think it's good value. In 2016 i bought a well spec'd Audi A6 for £36k brand new. Its feels like the high prices people are paying for electric vehicles has allowed ICE vehicles to get a price hike too. The world's gone mad. Nice review Pete, does look good though
A well spec’d A6 is now 50k plus
Another honest review Pete…. We have an X1 x-drive Diesel which is great , 53 to the gallon lovely engine but not Audi inside ! If only there was a mix, we are still out deciding what next when we change so a review of a non Supercar is appreciated, keep up the good work.
Will do 👍
Very interesting and thanks. I've learnt with my BMW 330e M Sport, although it has "real buttons" for many functions, voice recognition works very well and I have got used to using it. But I agree with you, buttons are good!
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Caveat. I am old. However, having done a lot of miles around Europe for a number of years due to my job the modern tech fest, wide screen car interior is just a distraction with a hint of annoyance. Every time I get into my 718 Boxster I realise how good a simple, analogue but high quality and intuitive interior adds to the driving experience.
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I have one of these on order after owning series five, three series tourings and currently an X2. The choices refiect my changing circumstances. The concerns raised by others refiect those made at the time idrive was first introduced. I’ve no doubt it will take a little while to adapt to the latest technology but it feels like a step up in terms of functionality in particular the driver aids. Hybrid or fully electric are not options for me. I’m switching to the petrol mild hybrid which feels like at least like a compromise from an environmental perspective. One detail, the fuel tank is a reduced 35l. found this review very helpful, reservations too. Congratulations.
Great to hear 👍
Agree 100% about the loss of buttons and also regret the loss of i-Drive and prefer ‘gear knob’ instead of switch. Would be interested in rest of plug in. Currently 330e Touring owner.
Just bought this car last week… LOVE IT! Perfect mommy car!
Enjoy it 👍
"Nice arse, shame about the boat-race". Beautiful interior looks really well put together, Pete.
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Proving popular these Pete. Sent a few out at work.
They are similar in size to the original X3 now (not quite as tall though) which might explain it in part, as not everyone wants to upsize & may move from a 3 to a 1.
Styling looks modern & sharp & there is a power option to suit everyone (unless u want an M).
I must admit, i am not fully past the "buttons & switches please" train of thought either... you can navigate your way through multi screens of apps to change something but you can't touch your phone! 🤔
Yeah I don’t get that either 🤔
Excellent point about touch adding to distraction. I am also a bit confused about the removal of the iDrive wheel controller. BMW was going for a sleek look, but the iDrive controller was way better than using a touch screen, and it could have taken up the space reserved for a redundant volume scroll wheel.
You’re absolutely right about the heating controls. It’s hazardous. I have the new Peugeot 208 and it’s the same, quite distracting when driving. I don’t know why they can’t see this for themselves. They must have focus groups before releasing a car. It’s a case of just because they can doesn’t mean they should.
Touch screens save a lot of money on things like wiring looms 👍
Am i right that we are not able to even touch our mobile phones while driving but can scroll through pages on a dashboard tablet looking for a heated seat option!
What about voice control surely you could ask it to put heating on ?
@@geraldfrear8121 Possibly but the same as Pedro said I’ve never tried it actually.
@@geraldfrear8121 That is a point. Never got into dictating stuff to my phone as “call so-n-so” usually end up in me ringing the wrong person! My car hasn’t got that feature so hadn’t considered that as an option. I’m happy to pay more and have the lovely tactile experience of communicating with the vehicle to be honest. Of the only 4 things I dislike in my car top of the list is touch screen radio channel selection.
Good review...Retractable/detachable roller load blinds hare so much more practical than rigid ones....especially for those wishing to carry dogs or wanting to load taller items without having to also load accommodate a rigid shelf plus whatever else is loaded.
Personally I can't get my head around circa £46k for this car which shares platform with vehicles that are more affordable (I am not anti mini countryman/clubman btw).
With a ban allegedly due on other than pure EV I suspect many won't justify buying this mild hybrid version....even if UK charging infrastructure is pathetic.
Thanks for content & sharing....Yet to see you out & about...We share an appreciation of certain favourite local road(s) 😉
Thanks for a superb review!! I already have one here in Florida, USA. The mini console opens backwards for you, but the right way for me. Guess they didn’t want to change it for you guys.🥴 I had a 2012, X3, 40,000 miles,,right, I don’t drive much, it was a beauty!! A small open back truck side swiped me turning a corner, and it was totaled. I had been thinking of buying a new one before that happened!! I’ve always loved BMW, and read great things about the new 2023 X1. I was lucky, the dealership that I had always used for repairs, had one in the color that I wanted, with all the bells and whistles..Someone had special ordered it, but then couldn’t go through with it financially. And, from what I was told, special orders can take a few months to the States. I love it, but noticed at times when stopped, and I lift me foot from the gas it doesn’t move, and other times it does. I think it must happen in different modes.
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They are great small SUVs, in MSport pack you get paddles which does raise the fun factor. I think the 35i will be a very special car.😊
The centre consul opening is fine for left hand drive, manufacturer cost cutting not tooling up for right hand drive.
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I had the oil burner xdrive version with a torque converter gearbox which was fantastic. My first BMW and I absolutely loved the car 3 year lease ended and I do miss it a little. I swapped it for its sister that wears a different dress the countryman cooper S petrol drinker all4. Both drive similar but the cooper is a little bit cooler if a little less practical.
Good video. 👍
Thanks 🙏🏻
Btw, if the OS is glitchy or failing you can always try to 'reset' the system. Simply press and hold down the volume button for approx 30sec.
Hi ped i am of the same view as yourself i think they should have physical buttons available another good review cheers
grest review Pete. Realistically speaking, is there much a ride difference between the xline and msport suspension. When you were going down the country lane, it seemed you were jolted around quite a bit. It might just be a false perception from your camera, but how comfortable was the ride?
I cannot decide between the mline 20inch wheels or the 19inch xline, as realistically, there is only £1.5k difference in price, so is it worth getting the mline with the adaptive suspension or stick to the config you have reviewed here?
thanks
Great review typical new cars I am old school physical buttons for heating and hopefully talking to the car and asking it to change thing will get better in time 🤔😎
Thanks 🙏🏻
I relish horrible weather to test a vehicle. It shows me how a car can cope with extreme conditions.
Morning buddy, catch up from being in York, oh and collecting a 63 plate C7 A6 Allroad, the Daddy 313bhp, tasty car indeed. Time for the XF to go, bloody thing.
The throttle delay is because the 48v battery isnt charged enough so no assistance from the starter generator same as my 3 series mht. I ended up going for the Q3 diesel to replace a yeti just because it tows 200kg more and uses real buttons. I know it's longer in the tooth and uses the devils juice but very little thats compact with AWD can tow 2200kg.
Thanks for this 👍
Does this mean that models such as the Sdrive18d (it's available in Ireland, don't know about the UK) would not suffer with this hesitation issue as the 18d model does not have mild hybrid I think?
@PetrolPed How about a comparison shootout between the new X1 PHEV, Alfa Tonale PHEV, and the DS4 E-Tense?
Think that would be a fun one as they're all vying for each other's lunch!
I agree Pete I think cars still need buttons for certain vital controls as touch screens too finicky and I really don’t like voice command ….. 🍻🇨🇦👍🏻
hey there, would the slight delay described be partly solved disabling the start stop feature when approaching a t junction or roundabout ? I currently drive the 420i auto transmission ZF and was experiencing delay when stationary at a light and wanting to pull away. But i found out that pulling the gear lever to the left side enabling the sporty gear shifting would cancel the start stop feature and make my ride movesfaster off the line without delay. So i was wondering if with this X1 shit by wire toggle :when in drive and pull back the toggle one more time if the gear selector finds itself in sport mode just like i do now with my 420i pulling the lever to the left side ? i personally haven't driven the new X1 yet and just ordered it and will receive it some time in July. i'm sure it will take some getting used to that transmission. Great review as always.
If it's anything like my phone I'll say "Hey BMW raise the temperature" and it will say "OK, activating cruise control for 120mph"
What no reviewer mentions is the extra £390 per year tax on cars over £40k for 5 years after buying. £560/570 per year , depending on engine! Now trying getting a half decent spec’d X1 under it.
Thanks for great review. Would love to see how it compares with the diesel of similar HP as more Torque. Currently Drive a fantastic 15 year old E64 635d with wonderful 6 Cylinder twin turbo luxury. This will be our first SUV was looking at used X3 M40i or M40d but maybe time to be sensible. Totally get it with buttons one day somebody will get it.
Personal choice of car would be Porsche Macan but silly prices, like Evoque but worried about reliability and engine performance so keep coming back to BMW.
Great suggestion!
@@PetrolPed please do soon if you can 👍🏻
An excellent ,proper review,thank you.The car looks good but I don't like the interior with that screen.The slight lull when setting off is a problem I can identify with.I get it with my own car sometimes and it is always at the back of your mind at junctions and roundabouts.Can't say I have ever been a massive fan of BMW's, always been more of an Audi fan when it comes to German cars.
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I have a 2023 MINI Countryman S that’s equal in quality, almost as well optioned and still has a well buttoned dash. I just don’t see the value proposition for the X1 in comparison. Nice car but worth it???
Hello Again, Good to see you reviewing new interesting vehicles, shame BMW don't convert cars for right-hand drive. Regards. RichardA.
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This is RHD 🤷♂️
@@PetrolPed Except for the centre console storage lid which opens for LHD cars.
Funny thing is you can't watch TV whilst driving but you can watch fiddle with a TV screen in the CAR
I thought the same, the law says I can’t touch my touch screen mobile phone in a holder whilst driving but I can play with my cars touch screen dash as much as I like
@@johnhutchinson635 Its a Joke !!!
The center console opens the "right way" for the rest of the world that drives on the right side of the road.
Hi Ped, great review as always. I used to be a great fan of BMW’s and have owned a few, including an X1 M Sport Manual in 2013. However, I find the latest styling not to my taste, and the driver interfaces too complicated. The other issue, as with all manufacturers, is price! So the base car is £38k, Pop on a few options and your north of £40k, and you incur the stealth tax which means you fork out another £5k in first registration and road fund licence charges. When I bought my first Jaguar E Pace in 2018, I managed to get the purchase price in at £39950! This tax has never been indexed by the Government, so most new cars are subject to additional taxation😡
At least if you buy a car that is already priced over £40k you know you have to pay the extra 'stealth' tax and so have a choice whether to buy or not. What is more annoying is selecting a car with a list price just below £40k (including options) only to find that when the car is delivered the manufacturers have increased the price which puts the revised list price just over £40k meaning you are then subject to the extra tax even though you are still paying the original list price to the Dealer. This is a Govt. scam!
@@mda5003 - I totally agree with you, we are getting shafted by the government left right and centre 😡
I have a touch screen laptop but never use it as do so many of my collogues buttons work and are far more reassuring
You get the paddles if you spec the MSport package
We’ve had one for three weeks in Sydney Australia. Great car, horrible iDrive 8 and user experience. The missing iDrive controller is borderline dangerous. Trying to hit a tiny icon at 80kph is impossible, and the voice control system is very hit and miss.
Love your review, so thorough as always, thank you. On roads with uneven surface and lots of bumps, would you say it absorbs bumps nicely, floats over them, or fidgets a lot? Really appreciate any feedback you can give as there aren't any available to test drive in my market, I'm considering ordering an xline sdrive18d on 19" wheels, I.e. same wheel/suspension as the one you test drove. Many thanks, Colm.
From what I can remember the ride was pretty good 👍
@@PetrolPed Great, thanks a mill
Like to see a left hand drive, I bet the central console lid opening suddenly becomes the right way to open for the driver ;)
Hi Pete I personally would have been interested in service schedules & costs as well but very interesting to watch
@@petrol_ped dont understand telegram who?
I really like it, that and the IX, with the screen going, could you have not used the voice control, isn't it meant to be pretty decent!? I'd like an sdrive 23 msport thanks!! Haha
That centre consil access seems to come from no change to RHD judging by the gear change button being nearer passenger than driver. Could you not change gear using the the centre button?
Yes the centre console is set up for LHD production
Nope 👎
Is it coming to Australia 🇦🇺 which model. ?
I really don't know what's happened to the interior design of new cars. They all seem to have gone the minimalist route with a steering wheel, an ipad strapped to the dashboard and very little else. The idea of scrolling through menus to make simple adjustments while driving fills me with dread, too. I think it's highly unlikely I'll ever buy a brand new car again!
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I agree, crazy
Just been out in our 140i wearing gloves and realised how pleased I am that there is no touch screen.👍
There is absolutely no need to touch the screen, the new BMW’s have a very robust and highly intuitive voice control system, unfortunately the reviewer completely negated to inform the viewer of this game changer.
@@davzer3773 I still much prefer having knobs.I have the 1 series without touchscreen and an Arteon with all the bells and whistles.Much prefer the simplicity of the BMW.Have only just realised that the BMW actually has voice control😀VW have received so much negative publicity on their new infotainment systems that the CEO has promised to update existing systems and introduce more user friendly systems as soon as practical.I do feel that manufacturers have felt the need to introduce new technology to encourage customers to update their vehicle and have not actually road tested with the driving public.It is only now that car reviewers are showing these new technologies as a backward step are the manufacturers taking notice.
When it's time to change our current X4 (another 3 years/40k miles) we will probably downsize to one of these or a Lexus NX as the kids will have left home by then. Can't say I'm a fan of the big digital dash - just seems like another thing to go wrong long term.
Oh, sorry forget to ask. The pause, hesitation when pulling away. Was auto hold selected? First thing I switch off on modern cars. Sorry I lie, the second thing after stop start.
Hi, if you will get to choose between new X1 Mild hybrid petrol and the Ford Kuga Phev which will be? I've been trying to weight both of the cars. Thank you for the video.
I really like the Kuga PHEV 👍
@@PetrolPed thank you!
I just don’t get these ‘small’ SUV’s. Give me an estate (touring) any day of the week. Better looking, more practical and easier on your back when loading your bike into the boot 😂
I do laugh at people who struggle to put their bikes on roof racks; SUV’s need to come specced with ladders 🪜😂
And don’t get me started on the touch screen thing……they are dangerous IMO. Voice control is patchy at best and often results in frustration……
Anyhoo….good review as always 😊
The front is absolutely fine in my opinion. I personally dislike the back, particula😢the panel that the BMW badge is on as it seems to sit weirdly with the lights and hangs over the rest of the rear. Just doesn’t work too well for me at the back.
It's interesting to realize how inconvenient the integrated computer system can be once your unable to access it and the features associated with it.
I bet the 3.0 D version would be a bit of a flyer! 😊
Hi Ped
Another good objective review.Looks can be very personal, have to say not a big fan of this one. Big NO to that info screen, sufficient to deter me from buying.😬 Hate to think what cost if something goes wrong with that screen and system. Have to say BMW and other manufacturers are adding too much cost and complexity, and even introducing features not welcomed by a large number of prospective buyers, and not convinced they add any form of safety, in fact the reverse.
Lacks a bit of originality to me. Had a car with voice control when the kids where little. They yelled at the car all the time to change temp etc. Was hilarious. Love my physical buttons too (age 50 you know) All they do to make safe cars that don't distract the driver and then I have to scroll down the menu of our XC60 to change climate settings etc.
50…great age 👍
I’m on my second X1 and find them a good practical daily driver, mine has the slight hesitation too which can be a bit annoying if you need to get a wriggle on at a junction or roundabout. Not a big fan of the touch screen which might put me off buying a third but if the voice commands are reliable maybe not an issue. Personally, I like the styling front and rear. Great review, thanks 👍
That delay is eliminated if the car is in sports mode...so we've found out.
@@omega19uk Agree, but it affects fuel economy negatively…. that said, I do tend to use it if I’m somewhere with a lot of roundabouts. Mostly I’m in eco pro though which is fine for most of the driving I do.
Hi Sir, would you suggest this X Drive engine over the 18i 3 cylinder 170 bhp version?
For me yes 👍
@@PetrolPed Thank-you so much, Sir. My Mum wants a Countryman and it comes in both identical engine options. I love you British English accent by the way. I am a big admirer. S x
Well…the BMW dealer kept chasing me about ordering an iX1 but I’m not exactly thrilled by the looks…a boring box with yet another “surprised mouse” front. The inside is alright but very bleak and that screen would just irritate…the analogue/digital mix dashboard on my SL is light years better with istant buttons and also voice command if needed. Then the price…buy the EV and add a few options and it came to £61500!….which is too much for a school run runabout. People will buy it but it is a nice washing machine…good…but all it does is washing….no inspiration or “fum”. Onto the next!, Stay safe, Richard😃😃😃😃
Center storage opening was designed for left hand drive markets and they did not bother changing it for right hand drive market thus the reason why it opens on wrong side 🤫
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The armrest opens in the same direction for both the right-hand side and the left-hand side drivers. I guess BMW did not want to spend on getting a different part for the former.
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the German made the centre console for LHD. They didn't even bother to flip the design for RHD market.
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The center console probably is identical for left hand drive and right hand drive models. So the storage part opens the right way for about 90 percent of customers... It's not a very smart solution of BMW...
The tendency for manufacturers to insist on all minor functions being operated via a tablet whilst on the move seems as distracting as the similar but illegal action of scrolling through a smartphone.
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centre console designed for germany driver on the left of the car there and the rest of the big populated countries
This BMW is ok, I’d be more swayed towards an X5 though, however, it’s an ideal size for many people I know.
I never thought I’d be looking to pay £40+k for a car and I certainly wouldn’t be if it wasn’t to some generous inheritance, I feel we’re still 10 years away from affordable high end EVs which is a shame as I would’ve loved to have made this a hybrid, as it is I’m gonna have to drop the sunroof, although never had one and unsure of any possible complications they may bring, just have to chose now between xline and msport although the suspension concerns me and don’t know how good the comfort mode is yet. Does frustrate as well that I’ll have to face the higher tax but even ev’s will be taxed from 2025 include the hike for any over £40,000 , isn’t that most of them 🤔
Its not a bad boot
Door mirrors Pete, door mirrors. Calling them wing mirrors just shows your(our) age!! 😂😂
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Re the mpg comments , I feel quite comfortable now that my 3.0d ! xDrive X3 from 2016 does mid forties or more on a run , sensibly driven, and no touch screens but a perfect combo of idrive and buttons… bliss ( oh and 5.9 0-60 if you have to:)
when i test drove this car i also noticed the centre console opening the wrong way and mentioned it to the sales guy who was sitting in the back, he said he didnt notice it !! the Quality compared to the X3 is very poor, it didn't feel very BMW and at 52k for the full spec its very expensive
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Clearly a case of making a car for left hand drive and a lazy right hand drive conversion
Why are DSG fitted to family cars? and why fitting a DSG to a car but without having steering paddles?
like it😁
Evening mate
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Can you fit a large road bike in the back
Pretty sure you could 👍
You do not need to touch the heater controls, as all can be done via voice control, same with the heated seats etc, so making most of the comments about this area irrelevant
I actually talked about this in the review 🤷♂️
I don't like touch screens and fact you can use them while driving can't be good for safety, how do car
company's get away with it?
Gimme Da buttons!! Lack of physical buttons is a total dealbreaker for me I'm afraid.
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What it should be in a car is do what the driver tells it to do
I kind of considered the full EV version of this car but decided against it due to the vague BMW dealer on release dates for ordering and lead times for delivery. The fact that my dream spec of air suspension, performance seats and surround sound suddenly became available the Jag was a no brainer & now that my wife has driven two JLR models it kind of had to be the Jag but the BMW was a close second in my eyes.
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Hi Pete, the hesitation on pulloff - you will most probably find that this happens when the front wheels are not pointing straight as the computer needs to work out the traction per wheel due to you having them at a turn angle. Still think the Mini Countryman on the same chassis is a better option
Just bought one. Hesitation goes away if Sports mode is used.
I’ve driven one of these. And the windshield is too close to my face. I feel uncomfortable driving it.
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When did £46500 become reasonable for small to medium cross over? £600 for white paint! BMW also have monthly subscription for some things like heated seats etc. I’m not convinced the microchip shortage is not being milked by manufacturers to hike up prices. Not just BMW. They are all at it! With EVs coming more and more popular the different between manufacturers is narrowing compared with ICE vehicles. Example MG turning out good cars at very reasonable prices. How long will be before they are equal on fit and finish but thousands cheaper? Established manufacturers need to not exploit the current situation or buyers will shift loyalty.
Sadly £45k is pretty standard for a premium mid size car these days 😢
Great review Sir Pete!!
So I’ve always liked bmw. Style wise and performance wise they have always been impressive. But I’ve always had one issue with bmw. The bmw tax. You pay a lot for the name in my opinion. Lately though the styles admittedly have started to warm up on me aren’t my favorite. I don’t think I’ll even own a bmw though there are ones I’d love to own.
Woohoo got to see the pups!!
Great review, personally I’m not a fan of the styling but each to their own.
With that clutch delay thing, my grandads 2017 Skoda yeti does that exact thing occasionally. Then when it does start moving it jerks forward violently, really weird. The only thing I have to complain about the yeti actually.