2023 BMW X1 | Something's Not Right
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 มิ.ย. 2024
- We discuss and review the newest BMW X1 Crossover. This latest update to their affordable urban hauler starts at around $38,000 and brings some of the revised styling and technology people want. But sadly, there are some big question marks here, so we cover the good and bad of this semi-luxury product.
#cars #technology #bmw
00:00 Interior and Exterior Impressions
3:02 Mechanical Impressions
6:13 Driving Impressions
13:15 Final Thoughts - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
I can't say it often enough - the lack of physical controls isn't just annoying, but outright dangerous. Will they ever learn?!
I disagree. Frankly cars have a lot of unnecessary and confusing controls that could easily be managed automatically or via a screen when parked. As an example, there is no reason why safety settings like forward collision warning need to be turned on or off during driving, burying it in the infotainment like BMW does is not a bad idea. Frankly, same goes for headlights since you should always just leave them on auto. I would argue having more buttons is actually more dangerous because it’s confusing and makes finding the correct button difficult for drivers cars with really good voice control systems are actually probably the best of both worlds because you never have to go searching for buttons, but I do understand that’s not always practical, depending on what you’re trying to do.
We're a bad accident away from the DOT creating regulations that you can't access the screen functions while the car is in motion. In 5 years we'll have to rely on voice assistants or pull over to turn the AC up.
It's not bad at all, as someone who has owned a car with very few physical touch buttons, you can live without them. You adjust really fast
Oh you can use voice command for everything. Press a button say turn on heated seats and theyre turned on..
@@voltspc9394
you : *whataboutism*
everyone else: *stares at lack of HVAC*
Glad someone else noticed it: when I test drove it, the take off from a dead stop was taking what felt like forever. It was slightly better in sport mode, but still noticeable. The lack of physical HVAC controls was my other big issue, and the instrument cluster itself looked too busy and not legible enough.
But every car maker is going buttonless
Many do, yes. But some still keep the important HVAC controls as physical buttons.
@@rosequartz2290 wrong
Most dct's allow you to let off the brakes slightly when stopped to allow the engine to restart and hence the ability to take off faster. They didn't mention whether or not this car had that function.
@@toddstevens8506 This is the biggest confusion point I had with the start/stop function. Over my 4 years' ownership of my mk7 GTi, I never figured out how to properly use the start/stop function to a point I just turn it off every single time I get into the car. I slow down to a smooth stop at the traffic light, and then the engine cut off. So I just let my foot rest on the brake lightly because even with a little pressure the car won't be rolling anywhere, but somehow the engine turned back on. After a few tries, I just assume the function is broken and never used that. Nobody would go paddle to the metal on their brake at a red light.
Idrive 8 is one thing, but entirely ditching the D-pad is a deal breaker.
not to mention how ugly it has become
This is what all car makers are doing
@@rosequartz2290 Not all, just BMW and Mercedes.
Shame about the jerky DCT. I was hoping for a transmission that doesn't upset the balance of the car as I turn into the Trader Joe's parking lot.
That’s my kinda man right there. What’s your name? Whose your daddy?
who knows about future model years.. but for me its just another example of avoiding the first year or two of a new car model. most gremlins tend to be ironed out over time
@@hotdog9262 Agreed. Drove a Taos and wow that transmission on the rental car was a mess hope they fix it.
On that topic, why the fuck does this get a DCT when the M3/M4 gets a torque converter? BMW is making extremely bizzare decisions across the board right now.
@@MBisFrenchy the dct or the auto? I can't believe VW messed up the feel of a DSG they are my favorite transmissions
Thank you for the honesty of this review. Most other reviewers gush over how great it is. I’d trust Savage Geese over all the others. This is what makes this channel superior.
All reviews are subjective. For this vehicle most of them are quite positive. Finding fault is fine. I’ve owned many cars over the 50 years I’ve been driving. Two were clunkers. I currently have one of these. It’s excellent.
There are plenty of positive reviews of this vehicle. Yer pays yer money and yer makes yer choice. I’d not accept or reject a vehicle solely on the basis of a reviews. Test drive essential to make a decision.
I trust the dozen other ones more. And also by buttfeeling when I drove the first new one delivered to our country.
@@grandiebob2500 Now a days it’s sometimes difficult to test drive these as the dealers have only a few on hand. Many are pre sold.. To make the X1 nice, you almost have to load it up into X3 territory.
I disagree. They “gush” over other brands. Just see their comments on toyota and hyundais.
Not a fan of SUV's nor BMW but these Savages get me to watch anyways! Can't get enough of Mark and Jack. Long live the Savage Geese!
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Unreal D riding, calm down little feller
Cool story bro!
@D B Not enough D riding imo. Best car reviewers on TH-cam my microscopicly endowed friend!
I love my x5 45e it’s amazing on and off road and I’ve had 0 problems in nearly 3 years
Thanks for all the content, look forward to it every time.
When you decide to review something, you really put your all in to it! Valuable information, from intelligent reviewers. A pleasure! Thanks!
Honest review, keeps me coming back for more.
Great review and production quality as per usual and now with HDR it really pops 👌 thank you for all your hard work
Crazy D riding
@@DB-sd3cw ratio
@@Quandtimus where? Cry more little buddy
@@DB-sd3cw ironic lil bro
The European versions are all either mild hybrid, plugin hybrid or fully electric meaning they have electric motors which help fill all the drive train lags. Seems like they just threw out the electric motors here and didn't bother making any adjustments. In Europe the new X1 is reviewed really well compared to the outgoing model.
HDR looks amazing, btw. This is the first time I’ve seen this in a car channel, so thank you for pushing the envelope a bit.
We ultimately instead of this picked up a CX-5 Turbo at invoice and 0.9% financing from Mazda. Great deal and has all the bells and whistles, cooled seats, heads up display, manual interior controls, etc. Plus soul crystal red metallic is one of my favorite all time paints.
The 6 speed might be a bit old but Mazda has really nailed the programming of it.
I have a CX30 turbo and it honestly does most things a German car does... besides handling (I like the feeling of everything though) and the badge. Kinda reminds me of BMW 2000-2010.
I have a 2019 cx5 with the turbo as a second car. Its amazing!
Smart choice.
Love the soul red! Nice choice!
I've been waiting for this review and am glad you answered some questions I had. I own the 2020 year model was thinking about replacing it with this one, but now I'll wait a little while longer. The new X3 will be out hopefully late this year or next year. Great work Mark & Jack
Even the old X3 is miles ahead old X1 and new one for sure. Why? Chassis are better, engine range, transmission also, everything is noticeably better.
replacing it? you are leasing a bmw x1, are you.. dumb? come on James
I bought a 2017 cpo x1 fwd back in 2020 for 20k. To me it's the most boring car I ever owned but it's reasonably quick, it has a ton of room and gets incredible gas mileage on the freeway. It gets close to 40 mpg on the freeway. I came from a Mini cooper to this which was the most fun car I ever owned.
Ah yes, entry-level Premium Luxury CUV content from one of my favorite car channels uploaded right as I'm looking for videos to watch on company time on a Monday morning.
😂😂
I despise what the automotive landscape has become. Bring back brown rwd manual wagons damn it!
@@Syncopia I just want auto-start-stop to cease existing and climate control knobs to return. Imagine taking your eyes off the road in a Mercedes at night to turn down the fan because the fan switch is small and next to other small identical switches.
@@SyncopiaSubaru?
I'm 45 and I wouldn't be caught dead in the majority of new cars.
I'm not even picky.
This was an incredibly helpful video. Thank you very much.
I can relate to this car because it doesn’t need to exist.
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unfortunately popular with the ladies
@@papa_pt Fortunately you probably wouldn't want to deal with any of those girls. Find someone that is there for you and not your car!
@@Filipolis true I meant they want to buy them 😂 hopefully an X1 doesn't impress that much. I stick with my wagon
would you say the same about a lexus ux or nx?
this is for those who only care about buying things just because of the brand. Those who go to a shop known for luxury handbags and buys the cheapest wallet or belt just for the brand, those who go to a restaurant known for steak and orders a drink and a salad just so you can post it up on tiktok. That's who this car's for
Thanks for the review guys, was waiting for this as I’m considering it for our next family vehicle. Considering this, used Macan, or maybe Q5 PHEV. We will be parking in urban areas every day so the short length of the X1 is appealing. Plus I’m a BMW CCA member and E46 M3 owner so I’m a bit of a fanboy.
What are your thoughts on the more mainstream reviews of the new x1 that praise its driving dynamics (ie Car and Driver, MotorTrend, etc). MotorTrend in particular called it a “return to form” for BMW. Quite the contrast with this review, and I have equal respect for SG (love your channel!) as I do for the more mainstream publications.
Thanks again!
Reminds me of my previous car (which Savage Geese actually loved)... my 2018 Hyundai Tucson with the 1.6T and DCT... had the same issues that when taking off from a dead stop into traffic, sometimes it would just go fast, and sometimes... oh man... I'd hit the gas and... NOTHING... that DCT delay combined with Turbo lag would coincide and I'd get NOTHING. It was rare, to be fair... usually didn't happen... but when it did... man, that sucked (especially if I was trying to dart into a whole in traffic and my car would pull into it like a granny). That was really the only problem I had with the 2018 Tucson and it was rare, but watching this video on the BMW reminded me of the same problem of DCT combined with Turbo lag.
Also, all buttons/knobs aren't evil... this trend to "all controls via smart-phone look-alike" is kinda funny... considering so many states now have laws against "using your cell phone while driving is dangerous"... now cell-phone use is built into modern cars! Would be nice to at least have volume and climate controls via knobs if nothing else.
thumb up for savagegeese for daring to speak about the transmission, other journalist never mentioned it, you got a sub.
The transmission is fine. Rewards skilled driving.
@@grandiebob2500 lol
you better drive it yourself. Make a judgment afterwards. I felt the tranny was fine, dont understand at all the complaint.
They did point out it is unusual and could be just their journo model.. drive it. These issues are not normal. Also strangely they didn't mention you can turn off stop/start.
@@say_wut lol what? Have you driven this model? If not why comment?
I’m a fan of the control knob for iDrive.
Really wish BMW would have kept that.
I had the same issue with my VW Tiguan 2.0T 220ps - you try to start moving by flooring the pedal and nothing is going on for 3 seconds. There were some others annoying matters with DSG and rear suspension comfort so I eventually sold it with 10K on odometer and bought a low-mileage E84 X1 28x again. Now I'm having fun. Every day, every second!
I watch the excellent work of Savage Geese often, because the point made about each car are really grounded and reasonable, always matching my own thoughts. I wonder if you could make a series of videos talking and comparing cars from different levels (like Mazda3 and BMW 1 series). I am studding about step up for my next car, but even as car lover is difficult to justify the price gap. Having this kind of video, talking about two different cars, and the whys between them and how it shows in the price stack would be great. anyway, that is just an idea. Good job!
Funnily enough, I was expecting to hate the previous generation X1 because of the switch to a FWD platform. I actually enjoyed it very much for the 5 days I had it as a loaner. A lot more space than the E84, and the steering feel was way better tuned than it was in the F30 I had at the time. It was comfortable, relatively refined, and most importantly did not feel FWD biased. I can confirm that with DSC off the rear would slide extremely easily in the snow. The transmission calibration was great (Aisin 8 speed not the DCT in this gen), and they’ve been reliable from what I’ve heard. Lastly, physical controls for everything. I’d recommend looking at a certified pre-owned one over this newer one. Or just call it a day and get a certified pre-owned X3😂.
BMW does FWD very well.
The transmission issues sound similar to complaints I used to hear about DSGs back in the mid-00s. Weird issues arise if you try to operate it like a torque converter automatic. Mash the gas pedal and it sits there for a second or two unsure what to do and when it engages it bangs into gear or jerks. Coupled with the stupid start-stop system and I can see why there's so much input lag.
Loving the HDR content, car looks crazy good on an LGC1
Thanks for the video. Your assessment is fair and as a current owner of a BMW 4M, and several 60’s Muscle cars, I appreciate power, dynamics, and raw speed. Having owned a huge 7-seater boat MDX to haul our family around for 10 years, my wife wanted something much much smaller now that our kids are grown - BUT she still wanted all of the creature comforts that our BMW and MDX offered. So although, there are a few things I don’t like about the 23 X1, a fully loaded one, to me at least, is far more for one’s money plus the badge plus generally a quality driving experience then one can get in a similarly-priced vehicle so we went with it. Again, it’s not for everyone but it ticked the boxes for us given our needs. And when I want to have some real fun, I’ll drive the 4 anyway 🤣. Thanks for the fair and honest review!
Man, I remember first gen E84 X1 - it had just right interior space for mostly solo driving, good ZF auto transmission (especially later 8-speed version), proper mechanical buttons and turn knobs for HVAC and other controls, either RWD or rear-biased xDrive drivetrain and perfectly weighted, responsive hydraulic steering. It was a joy to drive, both in heavy city traffic and on highway. The current gen X1 feels like the car made specifically for people who pay for blue checkmark on Twitter.
The only car I have ever driven that did the took three seconds to move was an old 2006 VW Toureg. And yes I do agree. It was a safety issue and like VW I hope they fix it.
Just bought exact same Patagonia Mircro D JKT as Jack's. Nice jacket as shown! Glad I ordered it.
My neighbor across the street has a 2020 Acura TLX 2.4-liter 4 cylinder engine with a eight-speed dual-clutch automatic transmission........he's taken it into Acura under warranty to replace the transmission 2 times in 2 years.....and every time it was in the shop for about 7-10 days.......I think the real culprit with this 2023 BMW X1 is the dual clutch transmission.....not the engine as they use the B48 in the BMW X3 also which don't have this issue. I would avoid all vehicles with dual clutch auto transmissions. This was the most honest review I've seen so far for this vehicle. Good Review and test drive 👍👍
We just bought one. Biggest gripes are the removed idrive wheel, followed by no physical HVAC buttons, and last the inability to permanently disable auto start/stop.
But the drive is awesome. Very sporty and planted with great handling and MPG. Plenty of pick-up and torque for daily use. The sport seats are great. Tons of tech. The dual clutch can be a bit wonky from a stop, but other than that I'm very pleased with it, especially as a daily for the wife.
I'll also note there is already a recall. I inquired what it's for but haven't been given any answers other than the dealer needs to order parts to perform it.
For the wife, cool, make sure she doesn't run the car till the car has no oil left on it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@alvinsimba734 ???
You can't even turn off auto start/stop anymore? Gross.
@D B you appear to be confused. In short, all my saying as a mechanic that make sure she changes the oil when it's time. I have seen luxury vehicles that come in for service due to neglect. A perfect example was one lady who brought her vehicle for the first time in 3 years after buying it in 2020 and the engine had no oil in it.
@@alvinsimba734 only confused as to why anyone would think such a lame joke is worth typing
BMW builds a $46K Nissan Kicks. And yes, it seemingly blends in with every other blob these days.
The official car of the Instagram mom who works twice a week
I’ve always chosen BMWs as rentals because over the years iDrive has essentially remained the same in terms of usability. I really like being able to get off a plane in a different city but having no issues operating the system while underway. This is a huge step backward. The controller was really important for usability for me. My own car doesn’t have any fancy infotainment.
Will the stop / start still activate if I keep pressure on the brake pedal and the other foot pressing on the gas while at a stop sign? Or can I set the parking brake and keep the throttle about 25%?
Yes Mark, I am also going crazy too with the ASS feature in my suv, and yes it’s a safety issue!!
My x7 doesn’t have the button that disables the ASS feature. Only in sport mode disables it.
It’s extremely annoying, inconvenient, and jumpy when taking off from a stop/stoplight. It feels like there is transmission problems, even thought there is not, it’s just the lag of the startup.
Another inconvenience is the lack of buttons for the climate options, fake speaker noise, and no more real exhaust. Feels like a big step down from the previous M50i I had.
LOL you bought an x7, are you dumb? Oh you had a M50i before, so you're simply a BMW fanboy who just gets in whatever newest whilst burning tens of thousands every few years in resale(or leasing LOL). The new X7 is a joke, blinded fanboy who will buy anything "just because it has a BMW badge"
You can disable ASS and fake engine noise for less than $150 using Bimmercode. I don't understand why these options are still hidden by BMW, but at least you can do something about it easily enough.
@@hyacia which doesn't defeat the fact you have a older 7spd DCT. And that's a pathetic solution for what's supposed to be a luxury car
I have a lot more expectations for $40K. I am not sure I will ever buy a new car again, the value for dollar is gone..
Get a Nissan Versa with a manual transmission, 17k
@@fortheloveofnoise9298 I don’t mind spending $30-40K, but not for that pile of unreliable CUV.
Hi Savagegeese! Please give us a review of BMW's new Highway Assistant feature! How does this driver assist feature stack up-- thanks!
How much is the heated seat subscription for the heated seats you already paid extra for?
My 2013 BMW 135 DCT has this exact same transmission issue you are right it is a safety issue!
Thank you for this video. I think that I am part of this car’s demographic, single female professional, no little kids and I like to reward myself with nice things from time to time. Not long ago I was car shopping. I watched your video on the Mazda CX-30 Turbo. I was looking at Mini’s, the Tesla Model Y, and the Volvo XC-40. I tried out the Mazda and bought it, it was just enough of everything I wanted so I forwent purchasing a premium nameplate. Listening to today’s video concerning the X1, I’m happy that I went for a well sorted vehicle. It’s not my forever car and I may move on to something else before to long (I’m liking the Genesis brand of late), especially something that is more driver oriented, and it’s good to know that this BMW is not my next car. I’m happy with my choice of current car and my next won’t be this one. Thank you for an informative video. I always go to you guys before looking at cars, you are thorough, throughly enjoyable and you test cars that real people buy and drive. Keep it up.
I would go with a mini cooper if it fits your lifestyle. I had one before and it was great. It was totaled and now I'm in a 2017 X1. Overall a great car.
@@stevelouie5928 what car are you getting next? now a new x1 right?
@@roboticvenom1935 Nah. I never get the same car twice in a row. What would be the point?
@@stevelouie5928 Sound philosophy, only exception would be complete redesigns later down the line when they're fundamentally a new and different car
@@jasonliu2383 Life is too short to drive the same make and model. It's like Pokémon. Gotta catch them all.
Another excellent review. Thank you fellas!
Hello guys! Just had a testdrive (in Europe) of the xdrive20d mildhybrid and the xdrive23i. I think indeed there are some refinement issues with the transmission in the petrol, a bit jerky sometimes at lower speeds (not such a big problem for the everyday driver), but the mildhybrid diesel is a very very refined drivetrain. As of 2023, at least in Europe, I don t think you can get a more refined compact premium suv than the new x1. Diesels are very sweet going. Sound insulation is also very good, on par with a g20 3 series.
I ordered mine in January, and I’m excited; it’s not for everyone, so no need to bash the vehicle. 😊
this car has exceptional reviews by others, i dont thing it is so bad as state by these two
I love your honesty.
I agree although I’d say opinion.
I have a 2014 X1 and always keep the Start/Stop function turned off because it was very laggy and harsh. I like that the button for it will remain on even if the car is restarted. Can you defeat it on this X1 and will it stay off even if you restart?
Great review. Change for the sake of change is a blunder. Maybe if this were the iX1, you might forgive the paradigm shifts (think iX). But change does not mean progress. That said, I'm sorry you guys got stuck with an X-Line. Having looked at an X1 x-Line sitting next to an X1 MSport, then driving then back-to-back, there is no comparison between the quality impression between the two. The x-Line seems like BMW was skimping on everything. The MSport trimmings elevate the whole experience--especially the seats, and the adaptive suspension. The mpg is fantastic. The power is excellent. The interior comfort is way beyond competitors. The Benz looks good inside, but the plastic is scratchy, rock hard, and squeaks. The Audi Q3 has a 2012 interior. If your think the X1 is expensive, I'll remind you that the junk RAV4 and CRV are $43,000, and no matter how you equip them, you're saddled with their pathetic infotainments systems , zero luxury, mediocre mpg, gutless, etc. Been in a new RAV4 lately? Not a nice place.
That doesn't forgive BMW one bit for the stupid shifter, no buttons, no paddles, and removing the iDrive wheel. Those are unforgivable.
What Mark says is absolutely true. As a European myself I'm always amused how the only or the base spec engine of European cars in the US are the top specs ones in Europe.
Unless it's a Volkswagen. Then, the opposite is true! 🤣
The X1 should always be 2.0 Turbo Diesel doing 1000km on a full tank. Thats the purpose of its existence.
I test drove the new x1 and the dct was jerky for sure. My mother owes a 2020 Mini and I ended up getting a 2023 Countryman both with the dct. They are absolutely beautiful and smooth. I’m assuming they are the same.
As a daily commute and occasional long distance (150 mile ish) weekend trip on the US highway, how does this X1 fare?
Is the ride comfortable for a long trip (2-3 hours)?
Is the steering nimble enough for city drive?
And with the above scenarios, not flooring it acting like it's a race car, would reliability be an issue?
I can't believe Dr. Touch even came for the iDrive controller.
Red interior and orange exterior reminds me of that upscale Dennys I owned before my 3rd divorce. I will miss both the free grand slams and Deborah.
Jack is the play by play, Mark does the color commentary.
I completely agree! I have been saying this since even the last generation, it feels too unrefined. The lag, the torque steer, the stiff and uncomfortable suspension, the lack of handling, I preferred the Audi and Mercedes since this thing was released in 2016. This is what happens when you make a BMW out of a Mini- which is literally an econobox in most of the world.
I have an X1 and I do not have any issues with the vehicle. I love it. I did not get the X3 because it is outdated compared to this one. Maybe in 2024-25 when they change Generation I will switch to the X3. For now, I think X1 is a nice vehicle. IDrive 8 is not an issue for me. All of us should have a touchscreen phone by now. I doubt any of you want a keyboard like a blackberry. I do not see any safety issues at all. If you change the air conditioner or heat every time you hit the traffic light, then maybe I can see a problem. It's true it is an entry-level vehicle but for me it is about practicality.
You don't have the issue when you floor it and nothing happens for seconds?
The Auto Stop/Start is terrible in my Acura as well. So much so that the first thing I do after starting the car is shut the system off.
You will get used to it
I used to plug a blank trailer electrical plug into my F150 to defeat the auto stop/start feature. Nothing like driving in -40 and the heater shuts off in town 🙄🙄🙄
What Acura do you drive? I have had many and find their system one of the best
you had me at front-wheel drive BMW
Is there not a switch to disengage start stop?
Savage Geese word of the year: “compliance”
It's more premium, but still at heart a Mini
Rented this car out of curiosity. This is a very accurate review. The delay is awful even without start stop to merge or accelerate quickly. Steering is so vague it makes the 2.28i I rented feel like a M3. Linear throttle response that comes with BMWs is nonexistent. And due to wireless only carplay it can crap out on you and glitch out if the phone heats up a bit. Usb only carplay is always more reliable. And the fan is absurd with a lack of granularity. Low is Japanese strong and very low is a sea breeze at best.
But as a box it holds a lot.
That lag you’re talking about with auto start/stop is very common I’ve found for cars with small engines and a dual clutch transmission the vw Taos does the same thing.
start/stop can be turned off though. Usually then the issue becomes manageable, basically you have to hit the throttle a bit sonner than say in a manual
I own this car and while I respect these views, this car is hella fun to drive! Not a fanboy or anything but just a realistic take. For the price this car is a bang for the buck!
Also the stop/start is annoying and it’s similar to other stop/start issues in other cars. I disable it when I start driving but yea an update would be great. Drivetrain is fine.
If you are looking between a Q3 and an X1 , which I was debating, the X1 is a better drive. Q3 has a sluggish drive.
At the end of the day if you need a better ride than a CRV (which is hella overpriced) this car gives you so much more for the buck. It’s a fun little entry into BMW car for a small family or couple.
I've test driven the iX1 for 30 miles and it's fantastic. Way more power than expected and AWD. I think the electric motor is the version to go for the X1. In the end it's a compact city SUV, you're not gonna do roadtrips in this thing.
the normal X1 is shit
Sadly we don't get the electric X1 in the US :(
I feel funny watching this, because we got the same car without any of the powertrain. We got the EV variant iX1. So thats one electric motor front and rear each, battery on the floor and this sounds like it drives way different. I was surprised how well it handles, wasn't expecting much to be honest. Yeah and I agree, the cabin is great as well.
Jack & Mark observe what some call a “pregnant pause” on startup. I test drove an M-Sport version in Sport mode and no pause showed up. I wonder if it is a problem on some cars in some modes, but not always?
I value a car that accelerates when you press the gas pedal.
They all do that.
@@judge831 except for this one
@@judge831 not bmw's
So.... when you do the 0-60 you start with a 3 second penalty? :)
At least the auto start, steering, and hopefully shifting behavior can all be tuned via electronics. I feel if you're in sport mode, the auto start stop should be tuned way less aggressively but in comfort it kinda makes sense but the lack of hybrid boost to at least get you going means that 2-3 second lag is super annoying
Yeah the x1 is tuned like shit, Mazda cx50 destroys this, GV70 does too if price is similar, BMW nickel and dims you for options. if you buy a x1 you're an idiot, bmw's only good affordable car is the 3 series
I had a mini cooper once and the start stop feature turned on way more than the BMW x1 I have now. It could be because the battery isn't as strong. In sport mode, I think the start stop is disabled. I never had the problem with the 3 second delay. As soon as you lift off the brakes, it starts right up.
I remember my 2017 X1 control arms are made by aluminum, and it has dual exhaust tips.
Savage Geese has a bias against BMW; he seems to find them too perfect and therefor boringly predictable. But that's not necessarily a bad thing in a car. I'd turn the stop/start off. There's good power and gas mileage and BMW interiors look they are for adults. Front wheel drive bias is not for everyone, but some prefer it over being pushed by a sliding rear end.
the b46/48 doesn't get a lot of love ever since the b58 was introduced but it's actually phenomenal engine for small cars like the mini. Doesn't mind tuning and adding boost either. Makes 300 hp in the GP and it can still be tuned further easily. I don't think it makes much sense in this thing though.
and it is reliable, B48 is in almost all 5 series/ x3s /x1s sold in Europe as emission taxes and large engine taxes are so expensive that a b58 is just not feasible.
yeah but 2 series and x1 are junk
@@roboticvenom1935 no they are not, they are just more entry level BMWs, still drive fine and interior quality is very good.
@@MRMV483 The two series coupes are awesome. They remind me of what the 3 series used to be before it got big and bloated.
@@roboticvenom1935 junk how?
Great review and made me value my F30 330d more. I suffered the same issues with a B9 Audi A4 DCT and chopped it as too dangerous, Audi didn’t want to know. 330d stop start restarts immediately by comparison. I cannot understand how cars with this obvious safety issue make it to market. Must try harder BMW and issue a recall.
Is this DCT fundamentally different from the one in the M2? I have a 2018 M2, and while the DCT can be a little jerky in stop and go, at times, there is no lag, and definitely does not feel dangerous.
Mazda cx5 turbo for the win in so many ways!🤔🤫🤪😬
enjoy your Mazda
@@tyukikiquinchi7367 have fun with a fat Mini. I've driven multiple last gen X1 with the b48 and the CX5 turbo was better in every damn way. Especially steering feedback and handling
I would take the cx-5 over this snob feeder in a second.
@@papa_pt then you haven`t driven both
@@hotdog9262 fair. I'm going to assume this drives 85-90% the same then.. plus that stop start issue
Knowing what a CRV or a RAV4 is going for. I would consider this for sure.
Exactly, considering "budget" suv's start at well over 30 grand and offer very little as far as quality interior or power (heck, the base CRV is a 1.5 liter that will blow up and the hybrid is more expensive but kinda bad on MPG for a hybrid) for a few grand more...this is worth it, even with all the downsides, because these downsides only get worse the lower the price goes.
Consider test driving the CX-5!
@@Assenbiled78 They look nice also!!
No you wouldn't, this is shit. Consider the CX5/CX50's pricing. Why would you buy this x1 over a cx50? if you're an idiot maybe, I've even seen a gv70 priced same as b,mw x1 at my dealers.
@@singular9 this is not worth it, Mazda cx5/cx50 exists, x1 drives like piss
what was the video shot on for HDR ?
I'm curious if the torque steer you were feeling was because the poorly designed BMW motor mount has already blown out.
If I were in the market for something with a pricy badge like this I'd be leaning towards the Acura Rdx based on the Savage reviews
or CX50 dude!
@@roboticvenom1935 That would be my 2nd choice!
A lot of money for an entry level BMW. So many used X3s with less than 5k miles for similar money. Hard pass.
Another honest and blunt review Wonder if the Mini Countryman is this bad?
I've owned both the X1 and the Countryman Cooper S and can say with certainty the Mini drives a lot better, tighter handling, stiffer, beefier brakes. You could hussle the car down a backroad if you wanted, the X1 not so much. The body roll does get annoying fast like the review says. That said the X1 is a fair bit cheaper than the Countryman S. One last thing, don't buy the non-S Countryman (the 3 cylinder). It's gutless and dangerously slow for overtaking.
Can you guys review the 2023 Tesla Model Y? It's been refined over the years and i think deserves some attention. Rented one the other week and it's the best car I've driven.
This BMW is gorgeous, but the side profile screams 2019 Nissan Rogue lol
First generation X1 manufactured until the 2015 is hands down the best of this model. Based on the last “real” BMW 3 Series to purists, the E90. It offered an RWD platform with hydraulic power steering that offered incredible feel of the road, and an available inline 6 and MSport package with a serious suspension. Only thing I wished for was a manual transmission, but we know where BMW and most companies went with that
yep and the new one sucks. get a Mazda or genesis instead
Since SavageGeese has tested both the Mazda CX30 and CX50, how would you compare them to this new BMW X1?
Test drove this two weeks ago. It was fun and pretty interior. Surprising amount of room inside. I decided to order a GV70 instead as I felt that had a lot of superior items.
GV70 destroys the X1, and has a way better transmission. the Mazda cx50 is also better then the X1
@@roboticvenom1935 yea I test drove the cx50 too, that came in second place. Wasn’t as big a fan of the interior and infotainment on that one.
@@user-js2dr9gv1u what are you talking about
@@roboticvenom1935 😂😂😂😂😂
GV70 is trying to hard too be a luxury vehicle.
I’m kinda bummed - I love the boxy, (almost) subtle design, the new interior looks good, there are a lot of amenities on tap for a reasonable price, but if the drive is this far off, it’s obviously not going to be worth any of that.
My expectations were honestly pretty high because the MINI counterparts do a pretty solid job of keeping things engaging and planted where they need to be, where this is starting to sound like a massive compromise.
I’m slightly weighing this and the 2 Series Gran Coupe because I do want a small MINI-based BMW, something that’s premium but retains the energy of MINI. The 2 Series seems to get that a bit better and retains more of the physical switchgear that keeps your eyes on the road, where this seems like they’re trying to hit all the points all at once - doing everything possible - and accomplishing nothing while doing it.
I’ll still test drive the X1, sorta get my own feel for it, but I doubt much will change model to model given how little consideration seems to be going to the driving experience itself
Book a test drive. It’s your experience that matters.
why? the bmw's are turned differently then the mini's. the X1 doesn't drive well, they said as much in the review and has a shit transmission. The idea of wanting a mini-based-bmw is irrational and illogical, please don't do something stupid. are you leasing? buying a new x1 OR 2 series sgran coupe is one of the worst financial decisions you can make
Too bad they didn't sell a 2 series wagon. I like the previous generation X1. I bought a 2017 x1 in 2000 and so far it's been great. No problems to speak of. Other than being a little boring it does everything reasonably okay and it will probably be the last 'analog' bmw X1 we will ever see again.
@@roboticvenom1935
"The idea of wanting a mini-based-bmw is irrational and illogical"
For what reason? Minis drive well, and a BMW version of a mini would essentially be a more luxurious mini. Space efficiency of a transverse engine layout is much better than a longitudinal one, meaning more interior space in a smaller physical size.
If anything, outside of the start-stop issues (which might get fixed with an update), an X1 is arguably easier to justify than an X3 due to its lower price but similar usability.
BMW don't need to be inherently RWD, and the average person will probably prefer the advantages of a FWD-layout BMW (increased interior space, much smaller driveshaft tunnel, improved visibility from shorter hood) over a RWD-layout BMW (improved driving dynamics, subjectively nicer aesthetic from long hood).
As much as I love cars with nice driving dynamics, I feel that there's a strong disconnect in online circles between what the average driver wants vs what online enthusiasts want.
@@CrazyWeeMonkey "minis drive well"
" As much as I love cars with nice driving dynamics"
Your paragraph was completely contradictory my friend. Your main point of "liking minis"(much of their niceness to drive comes from their small size the BMW X1 isn't that light or small and it has a ton of body roll btw), is contradicted by you talking about how the average person(you aren't close to rhe average car buyer haha) doesnt need a car that drives very well or is very tight yet you like minis for how they drive..
It's just poor, RWD good driving platforms is apart of BMW's identity. Audi does FWD and their cars drive significantly worse. Get one of those silly.
Earliest ever. Certainly a provocative title on this one!
I think you get the best combo! no rattly small engine or diesel
Generalist car brands like Mazda or Kia have been putting up some amazing products lately, makes entry level car from Germany feel useless and overpriced.
If you drive them you feel the difference. Now if you don’t care about driving dynamics the. Yes I agree with your assessment.
@@LafemmebearMusic a front-wheel drive based BMW doesn't drive nice, as you can see in this video. A Mazda 3 showed better chassis balance than this.
Mazda 3 is a hatch, mazda 3 has a lot of issues with build dirability after 60-90k km here in Europe while bmw's or other german prem brands still do not. When it comes to driving dynamics, although I like mazda and hate bmw lately cause of their new aproach to everything traditional and functional I have to disagree, I believe you haven't really drove any to compare. I have.
@@JohnyMcNeal Well, it depends on where you live. Here in Canada road conditions and temperature is harsh on vehicles. Bmw's have the reputation to be unreliable and not durable. Literally designed to fail. On the other hand, i see a handful of Mazda's with over 250,000km without major issues.
I’m so bummed to hear this, I actually like the styling and I thought this would make for a good daily (with room for a baby seat/kids) but with some BMW drivability but I guess not. I hope we get a hybrid/other drivetrain options.
Its worth it when you see a honda costs the same price as this.
Just test drive one yourself, preferably with M-sport. It drives fine probably
I don't know why they lifted the new X1. None of the other Xuvs are lifted. These Xuvs are basically wagons with more headroom.
Great review, though I like the vehicle’s overall looks, can’t get over the lack of physical controls and the start/stop BS.
Is it better to for an x3 even if the gen hasn't changed yet? I'm thinking to change the order of the x1 for a x3 instead
Last gen was a good car. It had an 8 speed auto and I never had a single bad shift. Auto start stop you just had to hit the off button once and it stayed off. Seat was a little narrow for my wide butt. IMO, BMW’s infotainment has the steepest learning curve
Then you haven't tried Toyota /Lexus infotaintment system. It just takes all the bad parts of other systems and puts them together in one package at you can have all the bad.
I don't believe an x1 ever came with a 8spd what model did you have?
@@albertko1 the new toyota infotainment system is fine, it's new savageese literally said it was ONE OF THE BEST in his new car awards video dummy
@@MRMV483 I have an 8 speed in my 2017 X1 so...
@@albertko1 I own a Lexus with the old system, and it's fine...99% of what you're doing day to day has hard buttons as an alternate to the screen/pad. Slight learning curve, but easy once you've used it more than a few days on end.
Entry level is... 46k....
Wow. I feel left behind.
2008 that's how much my E92 335i coupe cost AFTER taxes...
it starts at 40k
@@roboticvenom1935 Negative. Taxes, registration, documents fee. Entry level basic nothing else about 43k.
Did they use the same DCT tuner as the mk3 focus did?
figured this would be a bunch of hate just like the last x1 video. wasn't disappointed.
it serves a purpose and is good at is. nobody expects this to be a great performance car, but as you said--it has a great interior, excellent build quality, a decent dose of luxury, and has good interior space. and that interior space would be significantly cut if it were a RWD car.
This car has pretty much the same interior space as an X3, excluding the trunk. drivetain is okay, dual clutch is def dumb but you just get used to it, fuel economy great, sounds like a great package. they def could benefit from a hybrid or electric powertrain
How long until bmw decides this needs a coupe variant and M variant
M Sport or whatever the "just the trim" package is
Well you are in luck since the new U12 X2 is getting revealed next year I believe
I am prepared to aim a shotgun right at the BMW badge.
Anymore, M = Money.
Yeah can't wait for the X1 M CSL /s