Cars are getting bigger and bigger - and I wonder where and how the hell people park in multi-storey car parks. Well, the answer seems to be that they take 1.5 spaces (i.e TWO spaces) - and there is no penalty for doing so ! Many new cars seem fine for North AMerican roads and parking - but too big for European ones, IMO.
I am glad I got the facelifted 2nd Gen when I bought my Tiguan R Line earlier this year. It’s a 150PS 2.0 TDI. I love the torque, acceleration and fuel efficiency. 5.0 to 5.5L/100kms in a motorway is amazing. I don’t like the design and interior driving setup of this current generation. The big turnoffs for me is the gear selector, the massive distracting screen that’s hard to reach, no separate climate controls and the integration of wiper control and light indicator in one stick. That’s too much of an inconvenience. I am glad I got the previous model.
You are so right about car manufacturers misusing their high performance branding. A few years ago I had an M3 and someone said “I have one as well,” no he didn’t he had a mid range car with the M-Sport pack! No M engine, gearbox, suspension and brakes, just a normal car with a nice interior. But he really thought they were the similar cars!
Tried this exact model and engine is woefully underpowered… looks great but also drove Kia sportage in similar spec and what a difference, much better drive experience!
All VW are, with the exception of the handful of R models. I get it though, they need to stay competitive with their rivals in fuel economy. Every says, "give me more power." Then they complain about the less than stellar fuel economy. You can't have both.
i had a 69 plate R line Tech edition 1.5 dsg and got a vw call to sell it back so did and now have a fun car . An Up! GTi . I Just don't miss the Tiguan
Had a Mk2 for years. Excellent family car with loads of cabin space. At 6ft5 with kids over 6ft now it's unusual to find something that takes us all. I've tried two volvos in between and am now due to pick up my Mk3 Tiguan in the next couple of weeks. I'm reserving judgement on the 1.5tsi but have heard quite good things on it from others and here from Ped.
I’ve loved my mk1 and mk2 Tiguans. Looking to buy Mk3 petrol and not sure about Hybrid and battery life. The spider traps on the panoramic roof blocked and caused wet carpets. Arrrghh! Looking forward to your Hybrid review. Thanks.
had an R line mk3 for just over a month now, having come from a '20 Q3 1.5TFSI, i've found this Tiguan feels a little bit more punchier than the Q3 before it. A few things i don't like - the passenger mirror doesnt drop even with all the settings on and 'L' selected on the mirror control, the slidey volume could EASILY have been fan control and would make a lot more sense - there is already the control in the centre console - the volume has a preset 'max' way before the actual max, and with the setting on loud, and the steering wheel doesn't pull out a great deal either. Despite these, it's been great. Some good, and very great things - leg room - there is so much of it, no matter which seat you are in, the headroom in the back is huge in comparison to the Q3 before it, the heated seat and steering wheel are very welcome, as are the massage seats whilst on motorway journey's, and also able to control the heat temperature in the back is also welcome. Some of the settings/menu's can feel fiddly, but once you know where they are, they are very easy and 'in reach' to change. In comparison to the Q3 spec wise, hands down the Tiguan is far better equipped, but driving position defo the Q3. All in all, glad we made the change for the next few years
I agree with what you say about the column stalks. Indicators/ lights on the left and wipers on the right. The centre screen can be confusing with all functions contained. We don't need further distraction. Change for the sake of it.
These are functional changes. But some manufactures off a double stalk configuration. One for turn signals, etc. and one solely dedicated to wipers behind that.
Hello petrol ped Great review very informative the bits that I am unsure on are the big screen on top of the dashboard I don’t understand why it can’t be integrate better. I also agree with you on the R point keep up the great work
Had the 150PS Tiguan Match a few weeks now. Getting 42 and a bit MPG and it's inching up still. Smooth ride on comfort with the Adaptive Suspension option. Very expensive with a few options added. The rotary dial between the seats is good for Volume control is good. Fan speed behind a couple of screen clicks is unhelpful ( trying to hit the buttons whilst going over undulating road often results in a mis-hit. Just had to go out and twice tried to start it, got out locked car, got in again with no success. Used my wife's car instead and when I got back ten minutes later all was well. Will need to see what happens !!
Love the reviews Pete!! I’m in the market for an suv and drove the Tiguan R Line a couple of days ago and felt the fit and finish was lacking, most annoyingly there was a buzzing from somewhere behind the dashboard, it was a nice car nonetheless. The infotainment was complicated though and not that driver friendly, just my opinion. I’ve checked out most of the competition and my previous late 2020 Q3 was a great car. Interestingly I am steering towards a Mazda CX5 having also tested a Sportage. The Mazda is super quality and in my opinion more premium than one might think it’s also a bit more old school which perhaps isn’t a bad thing.
Really enjoyed your interview and road test you are absolutely spot on regarding the R badging I totally agree with your statement. Yes the 150 PS 1.5 EVO engine is a peach just imagine how the T Cross drives with the same engine! Not keen like your self on the hear shift and indicator/wiper stalk but the I am old school too.. another great review PP. the hybrid next then the Full fat R review and road test.
I’m planning on replacing my 2019 Golf for something bigger and with a higher ride height. I tried to like the newer VW options but I prefer buttons and dials to touch sensitive screens, and they only offer plug-in hybrids which doesn’t really suit my needs. I suppose at least you can now change the drive mode more easily, on my Golf there’s a button, but that just brings up the options on the infotainment screen, then you’ve got to try and select the one you want without taking your eyes off the road. It’s why my Golf spends 95% of its time in eco mode. 😂
I had the Seat version of the last model, it was excellent, l shouldn’t have sold it. The new one looks nice but tippy tappie controls don’t do it for me. I had a 2020 Audi TT and that’s as much technology as I want, all I need a screen to do show me pictures, reverse camera, sat nav, etc. Controls need buttons and switches. Driving down roads with your left arm stretched out swaying around with a finger flying solo trying to tap a button whilst looking where you are going at 60 mph is dangerous. Nice video though, I was looking forward to seeing your test. Good job.
Plugin Hybrid is only fuel efficient when you have electric charge in the battery. The moment you ran out of charge, and the car runs on engine power alone is very fuel inefficient. As a result you keep on charging the battery every now and again which leads to a much higher electricity bills. You’re better off with a diesel if you’re going on long journeys or Hybrids for city driving.
I like the chunky buttons in the golf 8, that was actually better designed. No mini icons impossible to press on the bumpy UK roads. Speed is now fine after all the updates. Heated seats and steering wheel came on automatically. They pandered to the tesla badness here.
Totally with you on the ‘up badging’ of cars. Properly annoyed me after I specced my JCW when I realised you could make any of the other models look like it. And one of the dealers said the red roof and mirrors were JCW only, but soon appeared on all sorts of models (if that restriction was even true).
The trim level winds me up as well, especially without "Line" being on the badge There are plenty of other designations any of them can use. The everything on one stalk doesn't work either, but using a stalk for the gears works well, Renault do it and I liked it when I've driven them. The lack of buttons winds me up.. Its nice, just another VAG SUV....
I'm with you on the badging. We've got the previous Tiguan and it's R 'Line' on the side. It went into the garage recently and I got a call from my wife saying we'd been given a Golf R as a courtesy car. I couldn't believe my luck. Turned out it was a 1.5 hybrid and the R was just the trim level. Ruined my whole day! 😂
I have the previous gen Tiguan. 2021 R-Line 1.5 TSI DSG. I really like it, lacks a bit of power getting away to be honest. I'm interested in the plug in hybrid variant of this new Tiguan. Not sure on the rotary dial thingy, seems a bit naff and pointless as it's not controlling the screen like an iDrive system
Re the R-Line comment, back in the 1980s I bought a new Golf Mk2 1300 that the dealer had totally upgraded inside and out to mimic the appearance of a GTi 16-valve. Problem was, the engine had all of about 55 bhp and wouldn't pull the skin of a rice putting which created a problem as everyone wanted to race me! I got rid of it after 6 months and bought a Peugeot 205 GTi.
To make things even more confusing the designation for Golf is GTI and R. There is no R-Line Golf. At least not for North America. We don't get the Golf.
1.5L petrol engine for a much bigger and heavier Tiguan is a bit underpowered in my opinion. A 2.0 Turbo Diesel is the best engine option for both power and fuel efficiency.
Most interesting part of the car for me is the nail in the offside front tyre. Car for folks who just need space and transport. And that’s fair enough.
Another good review. I took delivery of mine at the weekend. It is better with the pan roof which I ordered as an extra. The infotainment is a bit of a minefield for me tbh but it’s early days and I’ll get there in the end! I got the diesel btw
Watch out for the spider traps (if you have a sun roof factory fitted) blocking and not allowing water to drain from the roof gutters. Once blocked water comes down the A pillars and wets the carpets.
Excellent review Ped, as always. We looked hard at one of these recently when changing the Ioniq 5 but couldn't get with everything in the touchscreen and IMO the dashboard looks a bit dated. Went with a Sportage Plugin instead. Nice car though and I'm sure they'll sell shed-loads.
Enjoyable Review this (am new to the channel) - and the Schnauzers were a bonus (owning one myself !). This new version is now the size it needs to be - the previous one wasn't that roomy in the back at all - though I am 6'4". I am considering one of these later this year.....but I think I'm right to say that the overly large Screen doesn't HAVE to be 15" - you can choose a 12" one - and that's what I'd do. Sun Roof a must by the looks of it.
I tried to spec one the other day and there are no 4 wheel drive options now? big downner for me, makes it useless. I cant see the point in getting a car this size if it isnt a 4x4
Do you know what cruising speed the engine cut in taking over from the electric motor? I had a Lexus and in theory it was limited to less than 30 mph but in reality over 17 mph it switched to engine. This was virtually useless for mixed town and motorway driving.
Why have VW lost there way so much. I had 6 Passat, 2 Golfs, 1 Polo it when I was looking for a new car in November 23 and was selling my from new 12 year old Jaguar xf there was not a single VW I would of bought. The massive one yes but the £80k price was no. I ended up getting a Mazda CX60 and that surprised me but I have to say a lot of car and so far I am impressed the PHEV is quite amazing. James
Great review, but honestly when does anyone drive 1000km without a stop? My last car was a Golf 8 and it was plagued by software problems. Hopefully this newer VW doesn't suffer these problems.
I do like that car after having my GTD Estate and it always reminds me of that car when I see a black one. The numbers also sound good on the PHEV version. Very interesting.
Does that one have the 48v mild hybrid system? I'd have an Octavia estate with the 1.5etsi for 50mpg+ myself. I'd assume it would be a lighter car than the Tiguan also.
Not for me, I really think VAG has lost the plot with the whole haptic thing, its borderline dangerous and I can't see me ever getting a car that relies on that tech. Also agree with the badge engineering aspect of using the R logo for marketing only...its just a con, stop doing it! Thanks for your review though, its good to see you doing all sorts and not just the stuff you love.
They're not alone. The entire automobile industry has that fever. Audi has it bad. Toyota and Hyundai are notable holdouts to tradition, and their buyer are happier for it. Some people don't mind haptic (Tesla owners). These are trend setting people which is why they purchased an electric car to begin with. But VW buyers are not like Tesla people. They far more traditional and conservative. They're the opposite. They don't mind tech, as long as its packaged logically. VW learned that the hard way. But they should have known better from the beginning.
First! Evening all! Hope everyone is doing well and enjoying the fantastic weather in the U.K. today. I find that this new version now looks a lot like the I.D 4.
Good review Ped. Not feeling much love for the Tiguans looks, it’s like a taller ID4/5 and those are dull to look at. I can see some half hearted attempts to rectify some of the quality, software and interior issues….perhaps Cupra and Skoda, will do as they have recently with a lot of these platform vehicles and make a better package….hybrid version and maybe the “proper” R might be the sweet spot. And VW need to get with 2024 and do a 5-7 year warranty
I'd like to see one in person.. when I ordered my Q5 Sline (3 years old now) I got a better deal on the Audi that I would have done on the VW, so went for the Audi 2.0 TDI.. We regularly get over 40MPG, and did 600 miles on a tank of fuel (to Paris and Back) and wasn't driving lightfooted. But the VW Tiguan I've always liked,, so will look forward to seeing it in person.
I'm hanging on for the plug-in hybrid version too. Thanks for the updated review. Just wondering on the noise level within - it seems quiet enough, were you happy with it? Also, how did you find the new light system at nights and was the adaptive chassis control any good. I have not heard anyone talk about the sound system within - is it the upgraded Harman Kardon sound system or the standard sound system - if standard is it worth the upgrade to the HK system do you think? Thanks!
Interesting, thinking of what the replacement for our aging Freelander 2 diesel could be. I believe the Hybrid Tiguan won't make it to OZ anyway so, like you, I would have like to see you running one for a while too. Cheers and thanks.
Hello Pete - completely agree about the use of the R badge when a car isn’t actually a R performance car. Why is VW producing such hideous looking wheels - those black ones just don’t suit the car. Mixed feelings about the size of the touchscreen but functionality certainly seems to have improved. Is there no diesel option or 4motion available? Why don’t you test the new Passat with the same engine or a plug-in version to see how it compares to the Tiguan - SUV vs estate. Keep up the good work.
As a big AMG fan and owner, AMG line irritates me too....as do after market stick on AMG decals. But I'm a bit of a hypocrite as my daily is currently an MSport BMW i4, bad in every way I guess🙄
I know you haven’t had a long test drive yet and it was a bigger engine and four wheel drive! but how does it drive compared to the new MINI Countryman?
I would argue the previous generation is far better looking. The creases and lines are more aggressive looking and didn't have a huge screen glued to the dash like everything else these days. This looks like a bloated golf mk6 front end mated with a T Cross rear
The "R" on the R-Line is has highlighted edges. The "R" performance, has a solid R. Makes sense now? Yeah, its a ridiculous system. For dislikes, that would be the sport seats. The ergo active seats are great, but I hate these seats with integrated headrest with zero ability to adjust. They make no sense in a family car. Speaking of adjustments, I wish the tight extender worked on the rear seat too. Considering I have a family of six-footers. I know cars at this tier don't offer any adjustments on the rear seat. Maybe in the future. For now, at least the driver and front seat passenger will arrive after a road trip in comforts. On the positive side, does it still offer that neat USB-C port at the rear view mirror for easy install of a dash cam? It makes the dash cam install a simple plug & play. The only thing better would be one at the rear. One more thing, never tell us what you're NOT going to tell us. Just tell us what you want us to know. What we don't know, we won't miss.
Peter…it is a good car for family life with a few bits sprinkled to cheer it up for ales…all those “R” badges….a bit like Ford selling Fiestas in a selection of Special Editions in the 1980’s! Most buyers will be undemanding sorts who need a reliable and practical car but I still think the older one looked better and bought nearly new, might be the best choice. A neighbour is due to get a new Tiguan very soon to replace his Company 21 plate…it is his work tool but it does that job well. Now….when do the builders move in to get going on the garage??😀😀😀😀Richard.
@@PetrolPed I recall that day when I started my new garage in 1993 and the inspector turned up in gloss finish brogues! My bricklayer Bert…47 years in the trade…took one look and said “ How’s he an inspector? He could t work out which end of a spade was the handle!”. After he had gone, Bert started work to machine build standards…totally perfect! Good luck Peter…🤞🏼🤞🏼😃😃😃😃😃
Another terrific video review Ped! I totally agree with you about the sticking badges on which then mean nothing about cars performance like you it drives me nuts. I can only see it getting worse as we move into the world of common platforms and EV technology. The only thing left to differentiate between them will be their styling packs! As for all these large informant screens I’m waiting for the EU to ban them as being a distraction to the driver, if you can’t use a mobile or tablet in a vehicle in UK how can these screens even be considered legal or safe
I really hope you get to drive a PHEV, because it seems to me that VW are doing something very interested in the PHEV space. They have announced a *load* of PHEV models in the last few months, all of which have an impressive 50kW DC charging and 100km of claimed range. For instance the battery to take a Skoda Kodiaq 100km is going to be a fair bit bigger than the battery to do the same in a Cupra Leon, but they always claim the same EV range figure. Off the top of my head, the VW group PHEVs announced so far, all with this spec, are models of: Tiguan, Golf, Passat, Superb, Leon, Formentor, Kodiaq. And probably some others which I've missed. So VW do seem to be committing quite hard to PHEVs which I think is really interesting.
Although I do wish they wouldn't quote single overall MPG and range figures for PHEVs, because they're pointless. Claiming a PHEV can do 200MPG or whatever is only useful if you happen to drive on that exact WLTP test cycle - which no ordinary driver is going to do. Much more useful would be for WLTP or whoever to specify 2 figures - one for MPG on a flat battery, and one for pure EV range (to be fair I think they do quote the second figure). If you know a car has, for example, 40 miles of realistic EV range and then will do 45 MPG on a flat battery, you can make a much better estimate of how much you will use on your own day to day journeys. For instance if you have a regular journey of 80 miles, that's going to look like 90 MPG overall. But if you drive 100 miles, it's 75MPG overall. And you could work it out for your own journey lengths- admittedly I have Excel fired up to help me out at this point! I know cars may vary from that slightly using different modes or using Battery Hold or whatever, but it isn't going to be far out ... but we need WLTP or someone to produce those 2 figures.
I have had the last model of this tiguan for 3 month and i am very impressed with it especially with the mpg as stated in the video. I'm not keen on the red colour though and would like to see it in white as mine is.
Mmm…. I take back my original comment about it looking a bit dull and like Everything else, though I do still think it looks Toyota ish, maybe not a bad thing. To be fair, it seems quite a big improvement on its predecessor. Good review. 👍
The speed warning is single handidly the most autocratic rules the EU has introduced. I would say 50% of the time the speed limit display by the car is incorrect! If everyone is also turning it off then that tells you everything you need to know!
Nope, I shan't be changing my Mk2 Tiguan for the Mk3. I dislike the indicators and wipers on the left-hand stalk and why put the gear selector on the steering wheel? It might have freed up space in the centre for a jog-wheel but that doesn't exactly do very much. By the way, the basic version or Hybrid Life has a starting price of £42,525 and that means another £2,000 or so in 'luxury tax' for the next five years with it being over £40k. (And I can get more than 44mpg in my 150PS TSI).
The Tiguan is now a big car. I passed a 24 plate one today and thought that it was a Touareg at first.
Really
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Cars are getting bigger and bigger - and I wonder where and how the hell people park in multi-storey car parks. Well, the answer seems to be that they take 1.5 spaces (i.e TWO spaces) - and there is no penalty for doing so ! Many new cars seem fine for North AMerican roads and parking - but too big for European ones, IMO.
I am glad I got the facelifted 2nd Gen when I bought my Tiguan R Line earlier this year. It’s a 150PS 2.0 TDI. I love the torque, acceleration and fuel efficiency. 5.0 to 5.5L/100kms in a motorway is amazing. I don’t like the design and interior driving setup of this current generation. The big turnoffs for me is the gear selector, the massive distracting screen that’s hard to reach, no separate climate controls and the integration of wiper control and light indicator in one stick. That’s too much of an inconvenience. I am glad I got the previous model.
Totally agree re the R/S lines, M sport and AMG line etc. It dilutes the brand.
Thanks 🙏🏻
I also agree. Mini have devalued the JCW brand by badging none JCW engined cars that just have a body kit.
Agreed. it’s all marketing gimmick & additional trimming way to increase the price of vehicle ….
You are so right about car manufacturers misusing their high performance branding. A few years ago I had an M3 and someone said “I have one as well,” no he didn’t he had a mid range car with the M-Sport pack! No M engine, gearbox, suspension and brakes, just a normal car with a nice interior. But he really thought they were the similar cars!
The Koreans are like that too. The Hyundai N-Line (which is just cladding), vs their "N" performance model. Even the reviewers mix these up.
Had mine 3 months now wipers lights all on auto great car
Tried this exact model and engine is woefully underpowered… looks great but also drove Kia sportage in similar spec and what a difference, much better drive experience!
All VW are, with the exception of the handful of R models. I get it though, they need to stay competitive with their rivals in fuel economy. Every says, "give me more power." Then they complain about the less than stellar fuel economy. You can't have both.
i had a 69 plate R line Tech edition 1.5 dsg and got a vw call to sell it back so did and now have a fun car . An Up! GTi . I Just don't miss the Tiguan
You do realize the Tiguan is a tall Golf.
@@krane15 thought that was the T-roc
Had a Mk2 for years. Excellent family car with loads of cabin space. At 6ft5 with kids over 6ft now it's unusual to find something that takes us all. I've tried two volvos in between and am now due to pick up my Mk3 Tiguan in the next couple of weeks. I'm reserving judgement on the 1.5tsi but have heard quite good things on it from others and here from Ped.
Thanks for sharing
I’ve loved my mk1 and mk2 Tiguans. Looking to buy Mk3 petrol and not sure about Hybrid and battery life. The spider traps on the panoramic roof blocked and caused wet carpets. Arrrghh! Looking forward to your Hybrid review. Thanks.
had an R line mk3 for just over a month now, having come from a '20 Q3 1.5TFSI, i've found this Tiguan feels a little bit more punchier than the Q3 before it. A few things i don't like - the passenger mirror doesnt drop even with all the settings on and 'L' selected on the mirror control, the slidey volume could EASILY have been fan control and would make a lot more sense - there is already the control in the centre console - the volume has a preset 'max' way before the actual max, and with the setting on loud, and the steering wheel doesn't pull out a great deal either. Despite these, it's been great. Some good, and very great things - leg room - there is so much of it, no matter which seat you are in, the headroom in the back is huge in comparison to the Q3 before it, the heated seat and steering wheel are very welcome, as are the massage seats whilst on motorway journey's, and also able to control the heat temperature in the back is also welcome. Some of the settings/menu's can feel fiddly, but once you know where they are, they are very easy and 'in reach' to change. In comparison to the Q3 spec wise, hands down the Tiguan is far better equipped, but driving position defo the Q3. All in all, glad we made the change for the next few years
I agree with what you say about the column stalks. Indicators/ lights on the left and wipers on the right. The centre screen can be confusing with all functions contained. We don't need further distraction. Change for the sake of it.
These are functional changes. But some manufactures off a double stalk configuration. One for turn signals, etc. and one solely dedicated to wipers behind that.
Hello petrol ped
Great review very informative the bits that I am unsure on are the big screen on top of the dashboard I don’t understand why it can’t be integrate better. I also agree with you on the R point keep up the great work
Had the 150PS Tiguan Match a few weeks now. Getting 42 and a bit MPG and it's inching up still. Smooth ride on comfort with the Adaptive Suspension option. Very expensive with a few options added. The rotary dial between the seats is good for Volume control is good. Fan speed behind a couple of screen clicks is unhelpful ( trying to hit the buttons whilst going over undulating road often results in a mis-hit. Just had to go out and twice tried to start it, got out locked car, got in again with no success. Used my wife's car instead and when I got back ten minutes later all was well. Will need to see what happens !!
I got the brand new Tiguan but rejected the car as the car coolant sensor have been damaged within 14 days
lost hope in VW
my first car and fav brand
Love the reviews Pete!! I’m in the market for an suv and drove the Tiguan R Line a couple of days ago and felt the fit and finish was lacking, most annoyingly there was a buzzing from somewhere behind the dashboard, it was a nice car nonetheless. The infotainment was complicated though and not that driver friendly, just my opinion. I’ve checked out most of the competition and my previous late 2020 Q3 was a great car. Interestingly I am steering towards a Mazda CX5 having also tested a Sportage. The Mazda is super quality and in my opinion more premium than one might think it’s also a bit more old school which perhaps isn’t a bad thing.
My choice will be between Tucson and Tiguan . Wich is your prefered ? Thanks …
I have listened and pleased with this report….thank you😊
Totally agree with you about the badges no sense in it
Thanks 🙏🏻
Really enjoyed your interview and road test you are absolutely spot on regarding the R badging I totally agree with your statement.
Yes the 150 PS 1.5 EVO engine is a peach just imagine how the T Cross drives with the same engine!
Not keen like your self on the hear shift and indicator/wiper stalk but the I am old school too..
another great review PP. the hybrid next then the Full fat R review and road test.
I agree with you about the R badging. Especially as I have a VW Arteon R.
Exactly right 👍
Just found your channel absolutely fantastic review and detailed presentation
Welcome aboard 👍
Why is there a lap-top on the dash? VW have really lost their way with interiors IMHO!
Unfortunately you've got the consumer to blame. People keep lapping these cars up so they assume we love them
VW has lost its way since dieselgate.
it's one of the best interiors in its class.
@@kraenk12 The others must be really grim!
Blame Tesla for the trend which have a giant TV in the middle of the dash.
I’m planning on replacing my 2019 Golf for something bigger and with a higher ride height. I tried to like the newer VW options but I prefer buttons and dials to touch sensitive screens, and they only offer plug-in hybrids which doesn’t really suit my needs.
I suppose at least you can now change the drive mode more easily, on my Golf there’s a button, but that just brings up the options on the infotainment screen, then you’ve got to try and select the one you want without taking your eyes off the road. It’s why my Golf spends 95% of its time in eco mode. 😂
Thanks for the review! How was the infotainment speed and did you notive any failures from it?
It's good and a huge improvement from previous generations 👌
I had the Seat version of the last model, it was excellent, l shouldn’t have sold it. The new one looks nice but tippy tappie controls don’t do it for me. I had a 2020 Audi TT and that’s as much technology as I want, all I need a screen to do show me pictures, reverse camera, sat nav, etc. Controls need buttons and switches. Driving down roads with your left arm stretched out swaying around with a finger flying solo trying to tap a button whilst looking where you are going at 60 mph is dangerous. Nice video though, I was looking forward to seeing your test. Good job.
Don’t think Renault do RS anymore. It’s the Apline trim that’s replaced it I think? (Austral)
Yep. Espirit Alpine. Been on a Renault launch today 😜
You coming such a long way with the video style and format. Well done 👏 and agreed what you said 💯
I appreciate that!
Plugin Hybrid is only fuel efficient when you have electric charge in the battery. The moment you ran out of charge, and the car runs on engine power alone is very fuel inefficient. As a result you keep on charging the battery every now and again which leads to a much higher electricity bills. You’re better off with a diesel if you’re going on long journeys or Hybrids for city driving.
I like the chunky buttons in the golf 8, that was actually better designed. No mini icons impossible to press on the bumpy UK roads. Speed is now fine after all the updates. Heated seats and steering wheel came on automatically. They pandered to the tesla badness here.
I totally agree with the badge things Sir Pete! Also I don’t think I’d like the giant screen in the middle. But it seems like a nice suv.
Totally with you on the ‘up badging’ of cars. Properly annoyed me after I specced my JCW when I realised you could make any of the other models look like it. And one of the dealers said the red roof and mirrors were JCW only, but soon appeared on all sorts of models (if that restriction was even true).
Completely agree about the R badge. Same as AMG and M sports pack on every second Merc and Beemer.
The trim level winds me up as well, especially without "Line" being on the badge
There are plenty of other designations any of them can use.
The everything on one stalk doesn't work either, but using a stalk for the gears works well, Renault do it and I liked it when I've driven them.
The lack of buttons winds me up..
Its nice, just another VAG SUV....
I'm with you on the badging. We've got the previous Tiguan and it's R 'Line' on the side.
It went into the garage recently and I got a call from my wife saying we'd been given a Golf R as a courtesy car. I couldn't believe my luck. Turned out it was a 1.5 hybrid and the R was just the trim level. Ruined my whole day! 😂
There's a Tiguan R (last generation) but no Golf R-Line. Confused? 🤔
There is no Golf R with a 1.5
I have the previous gen Tiguan. 2021 R-Line 1.5 TSI DSG. I really like it, lacks a bit of power getting away to be honest. I'm interested in the plug in hybrid variant of this new Tiguan. Not sure on the rotary dial thingy, seems a bit naff and pointless as it's not controlling the screen like an iDrive system
Turbo lag. They all have it. Although some manufactures such as Genesis, switch to twin turbo to reduce (though not totally eliminate) that lag.
Re the R-Line comment, back in the 1980s I bought a new Golf Mk2 1300 that the dealer had totally upgraded inside and out to mimic the appearance of a GTi 16-valve. Problem was, the engine had all of about 55 bhp and wouldn't pull the skin of a rice putting which created a problem as everyone wanted to race me!
I got rid of it after 6 months and bought a Peugeot 205 GTi.
LOL 😂
To make things even more confusing the designation for Golf is GTI and R. There is no R-Line Golf. At least not for North America. We don't get the Golf.
Enjoyed Your Vlog Mr. Petrol Ped, Thanks For All Your Hard Work ... 👍👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it
1.5L petrol engine for a much bigger and heavier Tiguan is a bit underpowered in my opinion. A 2.0 Turbo Diesel is the best engine option for both power and fuel efficiency.
Most interesting part of the car for me is the nail in the offside front tyre.
Car for folks who just need space and transport. And that’s fair enough.
Just ordered the 270bhp r-line phev
Can’t wait to get it
How is it?is it stiff overhumps and was drive mode select standard?
Another good review. I took delivery of mine at the weekend. It is better with the pan roof which I ordered as an extra. The infotainment is a bit of a minefield for me tbh but it’s early days and I’ll get there in the end! I got the diesel btw
Nice 👌
Watch out for the spider traps (if you have a sun roof factory fitted) blocking and not allowing water to drain from the roof gutters. Once blocked water comes down the A pillars and wets the carpets.
@@peterjackson8409 not great! I’ll keep an eye out but not sure how the water would get past the door rubbers but thanks for the heads up!👍🏻
Is it possible to get the 13-inch infotainment system on the R-Line instead of the 15-inch one? The 15-inch seems too large.
Don’t think so 😬
Are the wing mirrors standard black? I’ve tried to ask for the black wing mirrors with the white but was told that’s not standard with the R Line?!
Excellent review Ped, as always. We looked hard at one of these recently when changing the Ioniq 5 but couldn't get with everything in the touchscreen and IMO the dashboard looks a bit dated. Went with a Sportage Plugin instead. Nice car though and I'm sure they'll sell shed-loads.
Good choice!
Enjoyable Review this (am new to the channel) - and the Schnauzers were a bonus (owning one myself !). This new version is now the size it needs to be - the previous one wasn't that roomy in the back at all - though I am 6'4". I am considering one of these later this year.....but I think I'm right to say that the overly large Screen doesn't HAVE to be 15" - you can choose a 12" one - and that's what I'd do. Sun Roof a must by the looks of it.
Schnauzers are the best 👍
I enjoyed watching the Video Review. Still the best Volkswagen SUV 😊
Glad you enjoyed it!
I tried to spec one the other day and there are no 4 wheel drive options now? big downner for me, makes it useless. I cant see the point in getting a car this size if it isnt a 4x4
Nice review - do the speed bong and lane assist settings get saved - or do you have to do it every time?
You have to do it every time sadly 😢
How was the audio in the car? I have trouble finding information about the quality of the RLine speakers
Do you know what cruising speed the engine cut in taking over from the electric motor?
I had a Lexus and in theory it was limited to less than 30 mph but in reality over 17 mph it switched to engine. This was virtually useless for mixed town and motorway driving.
Whats the yellow beautiful thing in your garage nice video pete
My Lotus Emira long termer 👍
Why have VW lost there way so much. I had 6 Passat, 2 Golfs, 1 Polo it when I was looking for a new car in November 23 and was selling my from new 12 year old Jaguar xf there was not a single VW I would of bought. The massive one yes but the £80k price was no. I ended up getting a Mazda CX60 and that surprised me but I have to say a lot of car and so far I am impressed the PHEV is quite amazing.
James
Hmm, maybe its the 4.3 billion in fines?
Agree100% with rhe R designated as performance
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In my opinion Elegance is the Trim that I would recommend 😊
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The best balance of price and features.
Glad you did this video. Been looking to move on from my 2021 M440i and had this in my sights.
But I think I will look elsewhere
Great review, but honestly when does anyone drive 1000km without a stop? My last car was a Golf 8 and it was plagued by software problems. Hopefully this newer VW doesn't suffer these problems.
I do like that car after having my GTD Estate and it always reminds me of that car when I see a black one. The numbers also sound good on the PHEV version. Very interesting.
Does that one have the 48v mild hybrid system?
I'd have an Octavia estate with the 1.5etsi for 50mpg+ myself. I'd assume it would be a lighter car than the Tiguan also.
Not for me, I really think VAG has lost the plot with the whole haptic thing, its borderline dangerous and I can't see me ever getting a car that relies on that tech. Also agree with the badge engineering aspect of using the R logo for marketing only...its just a con, stop doing it! Thanks for your review though, its good to see you doing all sorts and not just the stuff you love.
They're not alone. The entire automobile industry has that fever. Audi has it bad. Toyota and Hyundai are notable holdouts to tradition, and their buyer are happier for it.
Some people don't mind haptic (Tesla owners). These are trend setting people which is why they purchased an electric car to begin with. But VW buyers are not like Tesla people. They far more traditional and conservative. They're the opposite. They don't mind tech, as long as its packaged logically. VW learned that the hard way. But they should have known better from the beginning.
First! Evening all! Hope everyone is doing well and enjoying the fantastic weather in the U.K. today. I find that this new version now looks a lot like the I.D 4.
Good morning!
I have a plug-in hybrid R-Line on order and can’t wait to get it. Thanks for the review and your opinion of the new Tiguan.
Good choice!
204 or 272hp?
204 as it is better for me on company car tax.
Now THAT's what the Tiguan is for: hauling the Petrol Pups! 👍🐕
Oh yes 🙌
How many miles with a full tank ?
Good review Ped. Not feeling much love for the Tiguans looks, it’s like a taller ID4/5 and those are dull to look at. I can see some half hearted attempts to rectify some of the quality, software and interior issues….perhaps Cupra and Skoda, will do as they have recently with a lot of these platform vehicles and make a better package….hybrid version and maybe the “proper” R might be the sweet spot. And VW need to get with 2024 and do a 5-7 year warranty
Haha... they need to first make their cars a bit more reliable else it'll cost um too much 😂. Spoken from a vw Tiguan driver.
Fair enough!
I'd like to see one in person.. when I ordered my Q5 Sline (3 years old now) I got a better deal on the Audi that I would have done on the VW, so went for the Audi 2.0 TDI.. We regularly get over 40MPG, and did 600 miles on a tank of fuel (to Paris and Back) and wasn't driving lightfooted. But the VW Tiguan I've always liked,, so will look forward to seeing it in person.
Cheers Pedro Well balanced review.
Cheers mate 👍
Evening buddy. I like these pictures in White. The Sun makes that pop though. Nice
After your review I’ve ordered one. Fingers crossed
Could you have a go in the New Cupra Tavascan
That does look good
I'm hanging on for the plug-in hybrid version too. Thanks for the updated review. Just wondering on the noise level within - it seems quiet enough, were you happy with it? Also, how did you find the new light system at nights and was the adaptive chassis control any good. I have not heard anyone talk about the sound system within - is it the upgraded Harman Kardon sound system or the standard sound system - if standard is it worth the upgrade to the HK system do you think? Thanks!
I didn’t get the chance to drive it at night 😢 The stereo was great but I’m no expert in that area 😬
No worries, thanks a million. I’ll keep an eye out if you do get to review the plug in at a later date. Thanks.
Pete. Best place for the gear selector. Need to drive more Mercs.
Hi Ya Peds👌👌Loved you from the start and will love ya to the end. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
You rock!
Another great vid, thank you. No sign of a 4motion variant?
Not yet!
Interesting, thinking of what the replacement for our aging Freelander 2 diesel could be. I believe the Hybrid Tiguan won't make it to OZ anyway so, like you, I would have like to see you running one for a while too. Cheers and thanks.
I’m about to order this in the r line spec or the Kia sportage GT line - which is the better car?
Hello Pete - completely agree about the use of the R badge when a car isn’t actually a R
performance car. Why is VW producing such hideous looking wheels - those black ones just don’t suit the car. Mixed feelings about the size of the touchscreen but functionality certainly seems to have improved. Is there no diesel option or 4motion available? Why don’t you test the new Passat with the same engine or a plug-in version to see how it compares to the Tiguan - SUV vs estate. Keep up the good work.
Thanks 🙏🏻
Shame you didn’t have the Phev version. Would be interesting to see it matched the mpg figures of the RAV4 Phev.
Next time 👍
Please bring the plug in very interested in that version. Great follow up review
What is the best spec to keep it below £40,000?
As a big AMG fan and owner, AMG line irritates me too....as do after market stick on AMG decals. But I'm a bit of a hypocrite as my daily is currently an MSport BMW i4, bad in every way I guess🙄
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I know you haven’t had a long test drive yet and it was a bigger engine and four wheel drive! but how does it drive compared to the new MINI Countryman?
I’d compare it to the Countryman C. I think the Mini is more dynamic but it’s not as big as the Tiguan.
I get 70+mpg from my 2.0 litre Diesel E Class on the motorway, these Figures for the Tiguan do not impress
If you don't care about hp.
I would argue the previous generation is far better looking. The creases and lines are more aggressive looking and didn't have a huge screen glued to the dash like everything else these days. This looks like a bloated golf mk6 front end mated with a T Cross rear
The "R" on the R-Line is has highlighted edges. The "R" performance, has a solid R. Makes sense now? Yeah, its a ridiculous system. For dislikes, that would be the sport seats. The ergo active seats are great, but I hate these seats with integrated headrest with zero ability to adjust. They make no sense in a family car.
Speaking of adjustments, I wish the tight extender worked on the rear seat too. Considering I have a family of six-footers. I know cars at this tier don't offer any adjustments on the rear seat. Maybe in the future. For now, at least the driver and front seat passenger will arrive after a road trip in comforts.
On the positive side, does it still offer that neat USB-C port at the rear view mirror for easy install of a dash cam? It makes the dash cam install a simple plug & play. The only thing better would be one at the rear.
One more thing, never tell us what you're NOT going to tell us. Just tell us what you want us to know. What we don't know, we won't miss.
Peter…it is a good car for family life with a few bits sprinkled to cheer it up for ales…all those “R” badges….a bit like Ford selling Fiestas in a selection of Special Editions in the 1980’s! Most buyers will be undemanding sorts who need a reliable and practical car but I still think the older one looked better and bought nearly new, might be the best choice. A neighbour is due to get a new Tiguan very soon to replace his Company 21 plate…it is his work tool but it does that job well. Now….when do the builders move in to get going on the garage??😀😀😀😀Richard.
Today once we’ve had the first site meeting with the building inspector 👍
@@PetrolPed I recall that day when I started my new garage in 1993 and the inspector turned up in gloss finish brogues! My bricklayer Bert…47 years in the trade…took one look and said “ How’s he an inspector? He could t work out which end of a spade was the handle!”. After he had gone, Bert started work to machine build standards…totally perfect! Good luck Peter…🤞🏼🤞🏼😃😃😃😃😃
Another terrific video review Ped! I totally agree with you about the sticking badges on which then mean nothing about cars performance like you it drives me nuts. I can only see it getting worse as we move into the world of common platforms and EV technology. The only thing left to differentiate between them will be their styling packs! As for all these large informant screens I’m waiting for the EU to ban them as being a distraction to the driver, if you can’t use a mobile or tablet in a vehicle in UK how can these screens even be considered legal or safe
Thanks 🙏🏻
Is that the new yellow Porsche in the garage Pete.😮
Lotus Emira 😜👍
Just ordered the match 150 bhp.
Love the schnauzers, we have one.
Great dogs 👍
I really hope you get to drive a PHEV, because it seems to me that VW are doing something very interested in the PHEV space. They have announced a *load* of PHEV models in the last few months, all of which have an impressive 50kW DC charging and 100km of claimed range. For instance the battery to take a Skoda Kodiaq 100km is going to be a fair bit bigger than the battery to do the same in a Cupra Leon, but they always claim the same EV range figure.
Off the top of my head, the VW group PHEVs announced so far, all with this spec, are models of: Tiguan, Golf, Passat, Superb, Leon, Formentor, Kodiaq. And probably some others which I've missed.
So VW do seem to be committing quite hard to PHEVs which I think is really interesting.
Although I do wish they wouldn't quote single overall MPG and range figures for PHEVs, because they're pointless.
Claiming a PHEV can do 200MPG or whatever is only useful if you happen to drive on that exact WLTP test cycle - which no ordinary driver is going to do.
Much more useful would be for WLTP or whoever to specify 2 figures - one for MPG on a flat battery, and one for pure EV range (to be fair I think they do quote the second figure).
If you know a car has, for example, 40 miles of realistic EV range and then will do 45 MPG on a flat battery, you can make a much better estimate of how much you will use on your own day to day journeys.
For instance if you have a regular journey of 80 miles, that's going to look like 90 MPG overall.
But if you drive 100 miles, it's 75MPG overall. And you could work it out for your own journey lengths- admittedly I have Excel fired up to help me out at this point!
I know cars may vary from that slightly using different modes or using Battery Hold or whatever, but it isn't going to be far out ... but we need WLTP or someone to produce those 2 figures.
Touch of Hay fever there Peter? It's that time of year I'm afraid!
Nearly. It’s a head cold I’ve had for nearly 3 months 😮
@@PetrolPed Oh No! I don't suppose your busy schedule is helping. Hopefully you can get a break over the Summer. Get well soon and all the best.
I have had the last model of this tiguan for 3 month and i am very impressed with it especially with the mpg as stated in the video. I'm not keen on the red colour though and would like to see it in white as mine is.
Thanks for sharing
Mmm…. I take back my original comment about it looking a bit dull and like Everything else, though I do still think it looks Toyota ish, maybe not a bad thing. To be fair, it seems quite a big improvement on its predecessor. Good review. 👍
Fair enough!
It looks nothing like a Toyota which are far more angular. Mazda maybe. Subaru possibly.
Love your dog.
Thank you 🙏🏻
The speed warning is single handidly the most autocratic rules the EU has introduced. I would say 50% of the time the speed limit display by the car is incorrect! If everyone is also turning it off then that tells you everything you need to know!
It would help if our councils trimmed trees and hedges that grow over roadsigns.....
Nope, I shan't be changing my Mk2 Tiguan for the Mk3. I dislike the indicators and wipers on the left-hand stalk and why put the gear selector on the steering wheel? It might have freed up space in the centre for a jog-wheel but that doesn't exactly do very much. By the way, the basic version or Hybrid Life has a starting price of £42,525 and that means another £2,000 or so in 'luxury tax' for the next five years with it being over £40k. (And I can get more than 44mpg in my 150PS TSI).
Doesn't do it for me but I totally get it. But still, the design does really not tempt me.
Cheers mate
Rule one: always review a clean car. Rule two: same as rule one.
Says someone that has never reviewed a car 🙄
I have the new Tiguan. It is bug-ridden and VW have failed to address it for four months.
Looks like a caddy van from the front